Didn't realise that there would be any controversy surrounding this, so I will address this once and once only: Jari himself previously said in a Wintersun Q&A video that he had no current plans to upload these files to streaming services. A commenter below suggests Jari had plans to upload them on Bandcamp, but I have found no evidence supporting this claim - in fact, the only source I could find of Jari talking about the topic at all (the aforementioned Q&A video) indicates the opposite. As there seems to be absolutely no way to ever get these files again, either paid or for free - I simply made this video so that others will have the chance to listen to them. However, I'm not going to share any files, and will delete any comments that ask me to do so (I've deleted two already). My intent is not to deprive Wintersun or Jari of any earnings - either realised or potential - that the publishing of these tracks would have made. I have been a fan of Wintersun since I was 13 and would not have purchased the Time package (or the Forest Seasons package) if my actions were in any way meant to harm the band. In case it isn't clear from my whopping 40 channel subscribers: I am not making any money from this video, I'm not stealing any of the band's potential streaming revenue from this, and I'm not claiming that anything inside the video is my own. Thus, the only ethical issue here is simply whether Jari wishes to maintain this music as a clandestine secret. I promise that I am entirely uninterested in whatever moral posturing that randoms on the internet want to engage in, and the self-righteousness of people who consider themselves qualified to debate the ethical existence of a RUclips video - whilst not being in any way affiliated with anyone who has produced the contents therein - is equal parts baffling and hilarious. But I digress. As stated in my video description, if Jari or anyone from Wintersun has concerns about this video or intends to publish their own version on their channel, or to release any tracks on Bandcamp or Spotify/etc; then I am more than happy to remove this video. Please simply get in touch and I'll be happy to comply. To everyone else, happy listening! 🍻
Deja el drama, Jari dijo que cuando se le acaben las ideas después de los 4 nuevos álbumes regrabara estos demos con más calma. Supongo que sacará otro Indiegogo. 😅
Yeah man, thank you , it seems like a mix between Ensiferum and some Bal Sagoth stuff… and it is even way better than the 2 Times official albums !!!! Just a Masterpiece !!! 🍻
And I appreciate it as I could not afford the pre order which really sucks. I’m sure I’ll never be able to hear the other 4 demo records and it hurts. Again thank you so much for even this little trickle of wintersun ❤
Personally, i didnt love Time 2, it felt like Jari just got to do whatever he wanted, with nobody telling him "ok that track might be long enough" But this takes me back to early 2000s Ensiferum, and sounds fantastic as a whole
Loving the whole "album" but Star Sky as an outro is something else. I think it's one of the most beautiful instrumentals Jari has ever written 🤩 I wonder if he ever considered using it as an intro or outro for the first Wintersun album or some other album we haven't even heard yet.
Thanks for sharing it, I am convinced it's appreciated by most of Wintersun lovers that unfortunatly missed the Time Package campaign and cannot listen them anywhere else. Looking forward to hopefully see these songs/album(s) coming to official streaming platforms.
01:02 ma Dio Cane ma è un capolavoro assoluto !!!! Ma come si fa a pubblicare ufficialmente delle porcherie appena sufficienti come time 2 , e queste cose qua relegarle a semplici demos considerati spazzatura, e solo per pochi … !!!!
Clown. Buy a good headset and get your affairs in order. Support the band next time and maybe you'll get the dynamic 2db files or high end files, not compressed RUclips files. Or maybe your aural skills are just low end.
As I expected, this album is much better than the main one. Does'nt matter if it's "demos" in some senses, melodies are better, songs are better, themes are better and the vibe is better. The Japanese sounds are just not my cup of tea, but hopefully Time II will grow.
You just have bad aural skills and bad headset/sound system, and you didn't pre-order so you only listen to compressed Spotify files. You are clueless, really.
@Fabulousideiumn Unfortunately, not everyone had the chance to buy the package at the time. I was scrounging cash as a student at the time of the fundraiser, and now having graduated and working, I can easily afford it, but there's no way to purchase it. That being said, If someone had the budget to buy the package and chose not to simply because they didn't want to spend the money, then tough luck. I still think Jari should allow it to be purchasable, even if it's not at the same value as it was in time package, but ultimately it's his band, music and choice.
@@NickStix13 something similar here, our currency in argentina is too devaluated to buy it (for example with only one day working i was able to pay for the forest package, while time package is worth more than two days of work)
@@Fabulousideiumn I had no money at all during the campaign. Now I have a good job and loads of cash which I would gladly give Jari in exchange for all the side albums released in the time package. People's situations change quite quickly.
Hey how do you access the time package stuff? I thought I would get a link to download everything through my email. The only email I found yesterday was one that linked me to the bandcamp which was asking me to rebuy the time ii album in order to download it. Any help is appreciated. I was more than happy to support Jari and the guys but it is a bit frustrating that I can't even figure out how to access the stuff I paid for.
This is kinda late but yeah check your junk mail. Also contact Jari as fast as possible. He said that they will try to resolve any issues and they said that they will keep the downloads open for a little bit so that everyone can get them. Also the email will have a link to a website where you download the stuff so no actual content will be in your email
Trying to listen Time II, finding myself going back to this album instead. Granted, the sound, mix and devotion is a million times better on Time II, yet the songs are just tedious, especially the slow ones. So 🤔 Get the old producers from Ensiferum 2001 back, add vocals to some of the songs on THIS album, record proper drums and update the samples. Instant Hit-album accomplished. 🤟🏻 Making good songs is a rare talent these days. Too many digital choices and soulless results. Top? Fountain, Steel, Hunters 🤟🏻
This is why the crowfunding campaings are so important, so the band gets the money upfront…if they just release like any other band they wouldnt make any cash.
Tell me where I can buy those Demos and I will. I haven’t been able to buy it anywhere for a few months now and I was late for the preorder. So where I can I buy it please. Bit of a keyboard warrior comment this
@@mrpenguin2247 Same for me. I mean no disrespect to the band but I also missed out on buying all the tracks and I'd pay for them now if I could. If someone knows where, let us know!
@@blindg7092lol what- and these instrumentals are amazing either way so idk what you're upset about? also, take into consideration that these are collections of demos
Didn't realise that there would be any controversy surrounding this, so I will address this once and once only:
Jari himself previously said in a Wintersun Q&A video that he had no current plans to upload these files to streaming services. A commenter below suggests Jari had plans to upload them on Bandcamp, but I have found no evidence supporting this claim - in fact, the only source I could find of Jari talking about the topic at all (the aforementioned Q&A video) indicates the opposite. As there seems to be absolutely no way to ever get these files again, either paid or for free - I simply made this video so that others will have the chance to listen to them.
However, I'm not going to share any files, and will delete any comments that ask me to do so (I've deleted two already). My intent is not to deprive Wintersun or Jari of any earnings - either realised or potential - that the publishing of these tracks would have made. I have been a fan of Wintersun since I was 13 and would not have purchased the Time package (or the Forest Seasons package) if my actions were in any way meant to harm the band.
In case it isn't clear from my whopping 40 channel subscribers: I am not making any money from this video, I'm not stealing any of the band's potential streaming revenue from this, and I'm not claiming that anything inside the video is my own. Thus, the only ethical issue here is simply whether Jari wishes to maintain this music as a clandestine secret. I promise that I am entirely uninterested in whatever moral posturing that randoms on the internet want to engage in, and the self-righteousness of people who consider themselves qualified to debate the ethical existence of a RUclips video - whilst not being in any way affiliated with anyone who has produced the contents therein - is equal parts baffling and hilarious.
But I digress. As stated in my video description, if Jari or anyone from Wintersun has concerns about this video or intends to publish their own version on their channel, or to release any tracks on Bandcamp or Spotify/etc; then I am more than happy to remove this video. Please simply get in touch and I'll be happy to comply.
To everyone else, happy listening! 🍻
Deja el drama, Jari dijo que cuando se le acaben las ideas después de los 4 nuevos álbumes regrabara estos demos con más calma. Supongo que sacará otro Indiegogo. 😅
Yeah man, thank you , it seems like a mix between Ensiferum and some Bal Sagoth stuff… and it is even way better than the 2 Times official albums !!!! Just a Masterpiece !!! 🍻
And I appreciate it as I could not afford the pre order which really sucks. I’m sure I’ll never be able to hear the other 4 demo records and it hurts. Again thank you so much for even this little trickle of wintersun ❤
whether you're making money off of it or not, it's a flagrant copyright violation
Personally, i didnt love Time 2, it felt like Jari just got to do whatever he wanted, with nobody telling him "ok that track might be long enough" But this takes me back to early 2000s Ensiferum, and sounds fantastic as a whole
This should be an official Ensiferum album. Absolutely loving it
Certainly better than anything they've put out since Victory Songs (and possibly before). I wouldn't complain
@@davidtheloafwardYeah Ensiferum gone worse during the years. I don’t even bother buying their newest albums anymore. The band is changed to much.
@@davidtheloafward Ensiferum changed and evolved. Good for them. I want to them to stay that way. If you want old school sound then listen to this.
@@blindg7092 Es la mejor fórmula.
The best Ensiferum album since Iron
Ensiferum?
Jari ya no trabaja para Markus Toivonen 🧐
Y'all are forgetting how good From Afar was
@@DoktorNaibmysAnd Victory Songs
@@Fabulousideiumn Jari was in Ensiferum..
Loving the whole "album" but Star Sky as an outro is something else. I think it's one of the most beautiful instrumentals Jari has ever written 🤩 I wonder if he ever considered using it as an intro or outro for the first Wintersun album or some other album we haven't even heard yet.
Hunters of the Misty Forests is so amazing
Hell yeah. I'm glad someone else agrees. Top-tier track.
The best track of the fantasy album. Just a bit sad that it does not have lyrics.
I love you for posting this
Wow, that’s great, fantastic, perfect !!! You boys are amazing. I love your music. Thank you 👍👍👏👏❤❤❤🇨🇿
If only you could post the other four full albums from the legendary demos... Man, I'm really eager to listen to that material! Please, dude 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
En mediafire
@@willyrosenkrantz8037 ¿Ya lo ha subido alguien?
@@MrThekuykuykuykuyyes they have
You should have pre-ordered. You don't deserve to listen to this copyright infringement demos at all.
Aye, mate. I'll take the opinion of a random guy on the internet very much into account. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you for sharing 🥰 this is AWSOME 🤘🤘🤘🤘🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for sharing it, I am convinced it's appreciated by most of Wintersun lovers that unfortunatly missed the Time Package campaign and cannot listen them anywhere else. Looking forward to hopefully see these songs/album(s) coming to official streaming platforms.
En Mediafire lo comparten ❤
@@willyrosenkrantz8037 where?
@@willyrosenkrantz8037 no juegues con los sentimientos de la gente
@@sidoso9810 No será de inmediato, pero ya sabrás que en unas semanas el RAR estará disponible incluso en canciones sueltas.
@@willyrosenkrantz8037 los dioses te oigan mickey turbio
Finally some good freakin' music
Hello, Bal-Sagoth !
What is this ball sag band everyone is yapping about?
@@thewildhealer541 Seek and yeee shall find
@@thewildhealer541 A black metal band that was far ahead of its time that influenced the bands to come.
@@thewildhealer541when you’re at an outside concert in the middle of a nasty hot summer and your balls saggoth
There's some strong old school Conan the Barbarian vibes going on with tracks 3 and 4....very cool
Wintersun meets bal saggoth album haha 🤘🙃
01:02 ma Dio Cane ma è un capolavoro assoluto !!!! Ma come si fa a pubblicare ufficialmente delle porcherie appena sufficienti come time 2 , e queste cose qua relegarle a semplici demos considerati spazzatura, e solo per pochi … !!!!
Thank you
All good!
Masterpice of viking metal... ..
epic stuff
This is light years better than time 2...
Clown. Buy a good headset and get your affairs in order. Support the band next time and maybe you'll get the dynamic 2db files or high end files, not compressed RUclips files. Or maybe your aural skills are just low end.
Yeah, isn’t it crazy?
Sadly true.
😂
Hey do you have any plans to upload the others like the demo albums? Also I’m really glad you uploaded this
Holy moly! This is way better than Time II.
Haha, clown.
Indeed, it’s crazy.
very bal sagoth
Super album🤘🤘 Miluška
Such an amazing piece of music, thank you for uploading this!
Will you upload the other Legendary Early Demos albums?
can you upload the other demos?
As I expected, this album is much better than the main one. Does'nt matter if it's "demos" in some senses, melodies are better, songs are better, themes are better and the vibe is better.
The Japanese sounds are just not my cup of tea, but hopefully Time II will grow.
Both are perfect (minus instrumentals of course)
You’re right , This is The Truth , agree with you !!!!
You just have bad aural skills and bad headset/sound system, and you didn't pre-order so you only listen to compressed Spotify files. You are clueless, really.
Bal-Sagoth, anyone?
Feels like an ensiferum album omg
I knew I would like the demos better than Time 2 lol. Thanks!
This is even better compare to time 2. I love the combination of the old ensiferum and the mighty bal sagoth !!
Do you know if they will publish this on Spotify?
Time II is alright, but this stuff is on another level. I wish we could buy this music as well
It was included in the TIME package so you could have bought it..
@Fabulousideiumn Unfortunately, not everyone had the chance to buy the package at the time. I was scrounging cash as a student at the time of the fundraiser, and now having graduated and working, I can easily afford it, but there's no way to purchase it. That being said, If someone had the budget to buy the package and chose not to simply because they didn't want to spend the money, then tough luck.
I still think Jari should allow it to be purchasable, even if it's not at the same value as it was in time package, but ultimately it's his band, music and choice.
@@NickStix13 something similar here, our currency in argentina is too devaluated to buy it (for example with only one day working i was able to pay for the forest package, while time package is worth more than two days of work)
@@Fabulousideiumn I had no money at all during the campaign. Now I have a good job and loads of cash which I would gladly give Jari in exchange for all the side albums released in the time package. People's situations change quite quickly.
@@APeekBehindTheCurtain Igualmente Jari cuando saque la próxima campaña para sus 4 álbumes en desarrollo.
It reminds me of old Children Of Bodom
I don't see you guys crying on Inmemorial videos, why isn't like that here?
This is more Jari.
Is that Early Demos?
Yeah, it was one of the albums included in the Legendary Early Demos file.
Hey how do you access the time package stuff? I thought I would get a link to download everything through my email. The only email I found yesterday was one that linked me to the bandcamp which was asking me to rebuy the time ii album in order to download it. Any help is appreciated. I was more than happy to support Jari and the guys but it is a bit frustrating that I can't even figure out how to access the stuff I paid for.
Checked Your junkmail box?
This is kinda late but yeah check your junk mail. Also contact Jari as fast as possible. He said that they will try to resolve any issues and they said that they will keep the downloads open for a little bit so that everyone can get them. Also the email will have a link to a website where you download the stuff so no actual content will be in your email
Trying to listen Time II, finding myself going back to this album instead.
Granted, the sound, mix and devotion is a million times better on Time II, yet the songs are just tedious, especially the slow ones.
So 🤔 Get the old producers from Ensiferum 2001 back, add vocals to some of the songs on THIS album, record proper drums and update the samples. Instant Hit-album accomplished. 🤟🏻
Making good songs is a rare talent these days. Too many digital choices and soulless results.
Top? Fountain, Steel, Hunters 🤟🏻
This actually is better which is quite an accomplishment.
I agree. But I squeezed it up to 35 minutes, added 5 non-instrumental ones from this one, and got a perfect 65 minute album
Ah! yes. that's how I like my Ensiferum 😍💦
Song nr.2, reminds me alot of Windrider - Ensiferum?
I bet this album would have sold even more than Time II. Is it just me?
just you
Not enough overdrive on guitars i think..
Idk, kind of shitty to upload these on youtube for free right after the release.
This is why the crowfunding campaings are so important, so the band gets the money upfront…if they just release like any other band they wouldnt make any cash.
Yea. Very shit ass move to upload these straight away.... I despite this
Tell me where I can buy those Demos and I will. I haven’t been able to buy it anywhere for a few months now and I was late for the preorder. So where I can I buy it please. Bit of a keyboard warrior comment this
@@mrpenguin2247 They will be for sale on bandcamp later on!
@@mrpenguin2247 Same for me. I mean no disrespect to the band but I also missed out on buying all the tracks and I'd pay for them now if I could. If someone knows where, let us know!
What's with the Japanese letters? This album has nothing to do with Japan or the time albums
@@ilikevideos4868 It was included in the Time package. This is a random wallpaper that was also in the package.
@@davidtheloafward Ah, well that makes sense. I only downloaded the mp3 version haha
It's the Kanji for 'Time'. Teemu has it on the neck if his guitar in the Sonic Pump rehearsals
@@ilikevideos4868what a waste if you only downloaded the worst quality version..
@@Fabulousideiumn Worst quality? Isn't it the same audio but without the pictures
Only 5 are actual songs. Meh
Instrumentals are also songs!
@@rjbviking97 For some people maybe, especially for musicians. But I am not one of them.
@@blindg7092lol what- and these instrumentals are amazing either way so idk what you're upset about? also, take into consideration that these are collections of demos
@@davunderthebluesky Yes. I just can't handle more than 3 consecutive minutes without vocals, no matter how perfect it is.
@@rjbviking97song comes from singing. A piece or a track can be instrumental, a song cannot.