I got my first Floyd Rose guitar recently and for the last days, I lost my mind trying to get it in tune again. Your video is the first to actually help me! Now I restrung my Floyd rose guitar for the first time and everything works. So proud of myself :D Thank you so much for the video :)
I know nothing abt floyds. But bought a secondhand guitar with one. i disassembled the floyd, clean them, put new springs, followed ur steps n it worked !! (took me 5 hours but it was worth it)
To each their own, but owning and working on FR double locking systems for over 40 years, reverse is the way to go. I get some people being OCD on aesthetics, but the time is wasted cutting both ends. The string does not always break at the saddle, and wound strings will unwind possibly farther than recovery at the post/s. Unwound strings will already be under stress from compression from pre-stretching and use of the trem just as the wound ones and the pressure from the nut lock will crimp the string affected causing another stress break point that WILL, cause another break. Everything else about this tutorial is bang on and I've always done it this way, but don't rely on the double snip/3 winds around the post method. especially in a live situation. Always bring a backup guitar and an extra set of strings (Don't forget the tools and tuner either).
@chowdermonsterr He means leaving the balls on the end and putting the string through the tuners first. The string is held in place on the tuner because of the ball.
If you put the string in the other way around you don't need to cut the ball end off, and as a bonus, you can use it to pull the string through the neck retainer bar when it gets stuck
Sone people like to do it that way, nothing wrong with that. I just don't like the look of the ball ends hanging on the tuners, specially if they are black but it's just my OCD lol
@@InspiringTracks I still cut the ball end off when I'm done, it's just 1 less thing to cut l. People that don't snip the excess strings on thier guitar need thier hard drives checked!
Your videos about Floyd Roses are the best ! I wish I knew all of this 10 years ago when I got my first guitar which had a floating bridge :P All you could find at the time were guys telling you to tune the strings in a weird order (and the order was never the same from video to video haha. It makes so much sense to do it the way you showed, I just never knew that the strings stayed in tune relative to each other even when the spring tension changes
Thanks for your comment, I really apreciate it! Just to clarify: strings don't stay in tune relative to each other when tansion changes (try playing a chord and use the tremolo, tunning will go nuts) what happens here is that since you tuned the guitar with the bridge locked, they are in tune relative to each other ONLY IN THAT POSITION. By tuning just one string with the springs after removing the lock you are bringing back the bridge to that specific position and that makes all the other strings also go in tune. IDK if I made it cleared or not lol, these things are hard to explain but hope you get the point. Cheers and thanks again!!!
@@InspiringTracks Yes I get the point thank you :) I want to disassemble the FR of a used Jackson I just bought to clean it and change some rusty screws, your videos are very helpful !
Thank you!! I've only adjusted with the screws holding the claw until afterwards in leveling apparatus, and its always been a big headache for me!! Anything to reduce the hassle factor is worth a try!
I have a question! While putting the strings on, I noticed that they pulled my bridge up and this loosened the stack of coins I had underneath it causing it to no longer be locked in place. It kinda ruined everything I had done up to that point and completely messed up the setup needed to properly do this. Why did my bridge pull upwards but yours stayed in the same spot during the video? How can I change what I am doing to avoid this in the future when i change my strings? Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated
That's a symptom of too little tension on the bridge springs. If you tighten them a little before removing the strings, as shown in the video, that shouldn´t happen. I you already taken all strings from the guitar don't worry, just start putting your new strings and closely monitor how the bridge reacts. If it starts lifting before getting all strings tuned to pitch just adjust the claw a little and keep tuning, respeat if necesary. You should end with all your strings in tune and the bridge still holding the coins. Then just follow the rest of the steps on the video and you should be good. Hope that helps!
@@InspiringTracks This is a really helpful question and answer -- I've been having the same issue where the bridge (EVH Standard, where the bridge is just supposed to rest flat on the body) just pulls up as I wind the strings. Tightening the claw springs seemed the intuitive answer, but then the inevitable question "how much tension" etc. I'll try again, but I may also add a third spring first.
This is awesome - thanks for creating/sharing. I wondered, do you have any vids on troubleshooting guitars, with new strings, that still won't hold tuning? i.e. where would you start in the process to 're-tune' the guitar? From the start? My brain is dumb lol
Thanks for this im paying off my first Floyd rose guitar and the setup part was scaring me a little bit but dude do yourself a favor and by a string winder
Hey thank you posting this. We just performed a restring on my son's Schecter E-1. We followed all steps and double checked each as we went. All was fine until we reached the Step of tuning the low E using the claw. After doing this the tremolo was too high at rear? I had to then muck around for quite a while getting it back down so it was level again and of course also in tune? I am sure we did every step as shown
Nice video. If you look at Ed’s franky, this is what the surface mounted quarter was for. He’d usually have only one screw mounted, then he’d (or his tech) would slide it under the edge of the Floyd.
The quarter was originally there for the floyd to sit against to prevent it from floating. He later moved the quarter because a newer floyd he got could sit against the body of the guitar. Ed never allowed his floyd to float.
Brilliant, thanks for this mate - I just got my first Floyd guitar (well it's an Edge actually) so this will be very handy for its first string change! Just waiting on some to arrive in the mail! I'll check out your other vids for sure too, they all look very helpful!
@@InspiringTracks thanks mate, did my first ever floating trem string change using your method, went beautifully. The hardest bit was finding a suitable object to sit in the cavity to keep the trem at level, but once I did, all went smoothly, and the guitar is staying in tune nicely, really enjoying it, thanks! :)
A good reason to do extra winds is so that the string will be low enough that it sits fully within the locking nut. this will help prevent the tuning from changing when you tighten or loosen the locking nut and prevent the need of a fret bar or string trees. if your locking nut is pressing the string down when you tighten it then your stings are riding too high on the tuners.
I know i’m late to the party, i just got a guitar with a floyd rose, and the strings keep slipping out of it every time i tighten them or let it back down after propping it up with coins, i can’t even tune it, ive been at this for 8 hours. any help is so greatly appreciated
If you start with a non parallel bridge and only change strings without touching the springs on the back, then you'll en up with a non parallel bridge again. In this video I deliverately started with a non parellel bridge to show that If you follow all these steps and do the springs thing then you'll always end with a parallel bridge, no matter if it started at an angle or not or if you are changing to a different brand/gauge of strings. Hope that makes it a little clearer!
If it pops out from the bridge you should check that the small square block-thing that press the string against the saddle is in good shape and well positioned. Sometimes it can get dented in the string contact area after years of use. If that's the case you can use a piece of sandpaper to make it flat again and make sure that it has a good contact surface with the string
I do this the same way but reversed…..what?!?! I have a block or a stack of coins taped in the thickness I need to fill out the rear of the tremolo block and the body towards the (strap button) in the spring cavity. I loosen the springs a little bit. When I string up the guitar the tension of the strings in tune is higher than the springs.(because I loosened them) the bridge is flush due to the placed block/coins. Intonation, etc is possible now as wel. Do not fine tune yet don’t lock the strings. Now you can play some to initially stretch out the strings. Re-tune. But keep the fine tuners flat for later use. Lock them. Then re-tension the springs until the inserted block is only just freed from the term-block. Remove it. You can now even fine tune almost by screwing or unscrewing the springs. Fine tune on fine tuners. Done!
Stick a wedge in there, so it always finds the required size. Half a clothes pin does it best. Steal one from your mother if you have to. If you're afraid of everything, "protect" the finish with folded toilet paper (preferably unused).
If you change each string one at a time while stretching it until it stays in tune and adjusting the others to tune, you'll save more time. It is unessisary to remove all six strings.
@InspiringTracks Sure. If you want to thoroughly clean your fretboard, take them all off. However, you don't have to do that every time you change strings. Maybe twice a year.
I don't watched that specific video but is a pretty common technique. It also works great but I don't like the look of the ball end on the tuners, specially on black ones. Just my OCD I guess lol
I got my first Floyd Rose guitar recently and for the last days, I lost my mind trying to get it in tune again. Your video is the first to actually help me! Now I restrung my Floyd rose guitar for the first time and everything works. So proud of myself :D Thank you so much for the video :)
Of course I would find this video AFTER fighting with my Ibanez floating bridge for two hours last night. You're a hero.
Lol thanks! Hope it helps
I know nothing abt floyds. But bought a secondhand guitar with one. i disassembled the floyd, clean them, put new springs, followed ur steps n it worked !! (took me 5 hours but it was worth it)
To each their own, but owning and working on FR double locking systems for over 40 years, reverse is the way to go. I get some people being OCD on aesthetics, but the time is wasted cutting both ends. The string does not always break at the saddle, and wound strings will unwind possibly farther than recovery at the post/s. Unwound strings will already be under stress from compression from pre-stretching and use of the trem just as the wound ones and the pressure from the nut lock will crimp the string affected causing another stress break point that WILL, cause another break. Everything else about this tutorial is bang on and I've always done it this way, but don't rely on the double snip/3 winds around the post method. especially in a live situation. Always bring a backup guitar and an extra set of strings (Don't forget the tools and tuner either).
what does "...reverse is the way to go" mean?
@@learningisgrowingthat’s what I wanna know too
@chowdermonsterr He means leaving the balls on the end and putting the string through the tuners first. The string is held in place on the tuner because of the ball.
Freaking rad!! Just tried this as I was terrified to swap strings and clean my guitar and it worked perfect!!!❤ thank you so much!!
Thanks for the comment! It's always great to know that the video helped someone. Enjoy your new strings!!!
This is so cool! I will be trying this out when I restring my guitar later. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you liked it. Cheers!!!
Thanks for this video. It worked flawlessly on my DK2S FR 1000.
If you put the string in the other way around you don't need to cut the ball end off, and as a bonus, you can use it to pull the string through the neck retainer bar when it gets stuck
Sone people like to do it that way, nothing wrong with that. I just don't like the look of the ball ends hanging on the tuners, specially if they are black but it's just my OCD lol
@@InspiringTracks I still cut the ball end off when I'm done, it's just 1 less thing to cut l. People that don't snip the excess strings on thier guitar need thier hard drives checked!
This is legit what I do, basically locking tuners without actually having locking tuners
This is an amazing tip , thank you for sharing it. I just changed my strings and it was quick and worked perfectly.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Yes, preferably clean! Also, this is mad genius! You've saved me a LOT of time and pain and heartache!!!
Great to know that and glad you find the video useful. Cheers!!
great tutorial as a floating bridge is always a thing that strikes terror into most people.
Your videos about Floyd Roses are the best ! I wish I knew all of this 10 years ago when I got my first guitar which had a floating bridge :P
All you could find at the time were guys telling you to tune the strings in a weird order (and the order was never the same from video to video haha. It makes so much sense to do it the way you showed, I just never knew that the strings stayed in tune relative to each other even when the spring tension changes
Thanks for your comment, I really apreciate it! Just to clarify: strings don't stay in tune relative to each other when tansion changes (try playing a chord and use the tremolo, tunning will go nuts) what happens here is that since you tuned the guitar with the bridge locked, they are in tune relative to each other ONLY IN THAT POSITION. By tuning just one string with the springs after removing the lock you are bringing back the bridge to that specific position and that makes all the other strings also go in tune. IDK if I made it cleared or not lol, these things are hard to explain but hope you get the point. Cheers and thanks again!!!
@@InspiringTracks Yes I get the point thank you :) I want to disassemble the FR of a used Jackson I just bought to clean it and change some rusty screws, your videos are very helpful !
Thank you!! I've only adjusted with the screws holding the claw until afterwards in leveling apparatus, and its always been a big headache for me!! Anything to reduce the hassle factor is worth a try!
Wow - great tip at the end! (Re tuning the E)
Everything worked perfectly only problem is that I can only like this video once. Thanks for this amazing video
The springs tip is great
Thanks!!!
I have a question! While putting the strings on, I noticed that they pulled my bridge up and this loosened the stack of coins I had underneath it causing it to no longer be locked in place. It kinda ruined everything I had done up to that point and completely messed up the setup needed to properly do this. Why did my bridge pull upwards but yours stayed in the same spot during the video? How can I change what I am doing to avoid this in the future when i change my strings? Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated
That's a symptom of too little tension on the bridge springs. If you tighten them a little before removing the strings, as shown in the video, that shouldn´t happen. I you already taken all strings from the guitar don't worry, just start putting your new strings and closely monitor how the bridge reacts. If it starts lifting before getting all strings tuned to pitch just adjust the claw a little and keep tuning, respeat if necesary. You should end with all your strings in tune and the bridge still holding the coins. Then just follow the rest of the steps on the video and you should be good. Hope that helps!
@@InspiringTracks This is a really helpful question and answer -- I've been having the same issue where the bridge (EVH Standard, where the bridge is just supposed to rest flat on the body) just pulls up as I wind the strings. Tightening the claw springs seemed the intuitive answer, but then the inevitable question "how much tension" etc. I'll try again, but I may also add a third spring first.
I personally like to use the eraser, but this is really a solid way to set up any floating trem. Great job.
Thanks!!!
Excellent method! Years on the local road and not one tech or myself knew this exact method. I’m glad a watched and learned.
The coins thing is a great idea, I assume you could use guitar picks as well
Yes, any thing that you can stack to the right height will work fine
You use stock pickups??
Thank you for sharing your video ❤❤
Thanks, glad you liked it!
This is awesome - thanks for creating/sharing. I wondered, do you have any vids on troubleshooting guitars, with new strings, that still won't hold tuning? i.e. where would you start in the process to 're-tune' the guitar? From the start? My brain is dumb lol
I was using this method in 1986!
That's awesome!
What a great video!
Thanks!!
Thanks for this im paying off my first Floyd rose guitar and the setup part was scaring me a little bit but dude do yourself a favor and by a string winder
Hope you found this useful. I have one but for some reason I hate that thing lol
3:50 is the part I always get frustrated at because the string at the bridge pops out of the blocks and its so annoying
Hey what should I do if my g string always goes outa tune whenever I used the bar
Excellent! Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Came here not knowing you had to cut the ferrules off. Now I'm an expert. Thanks.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Hey thank you posting this. We just performed a restring on my son's Schecter E-1. We followed all steps and double checked each as we went. All was fine until we reached the Step of tuning the low E using the claw. After doing this the tremolo was too high at rear? I had to then muck around for quite a while getting it back down so it was level again and of course also in tune? I am sure we did every step as shown
Nice video. If you look at Ed’s franky, this is what the surface mounted quarter was for. He’d usually have only one screw mounted, then he’d (or his tech) would slide it under the edge of the Floyd.
Didn't know about the quarter function, always tought it was there just for look. Thanks!
The quarter was originally there for the floyd to sit against to prevent it from floating. He later moved the quarter because a newer floyd he got could sit against the body of the guitar. Ed never allowed his floyd to float.
Brilliant, thanks for this mate - I just got my first Floyd guitar (well it's an Edge actually) so this will be very handy for its first string change! Just waiting on some to arrive in the mail! I'll check out your other vids for sure too, they all look very helpful!
Thanks! Hope you find the other videos useful. Cheers and enjoy your new guitar!
@@InspiringTracks thanks mate, did my first ever floating trem string change using your method, went beautifully. The hardest bit was finding a suitable object to sit in the cavity to keep the trem at level, but once I did, all went smoothly, and the guitar is staying in tune nicely, really enjoying it, thanks! :)
This should stay in tune after doing dive bombs right?
If the bridge is in good conditions and properly setup yes, absolutely
@@InspiringTracks ok, thx
Another question lol what is the reason behind tightening the springs in the beginning?
I have a noticeable buzz on my bottom string, high end. Annoying when doing lead. Any idea how I fix this?
Cheers
All but my low e and a string are tuned a whole octave down and it won’t go any more up
The only question I do have is about wood fatigue around the screw hole? I'm guessing I don't need to worry about?
Not a problem at all, keep in mind you are only making small adjustment
Been thinking about getting one put on one of my guitars. Holy crap what if you are playing a show and break a string or two? Doesn’t seem super fast.
A good reason to do extra winds is so that the string will be low enough that it sits fully within the locking nut. this will help prevent the tuning from changing when you tighten or loosen the locking nut and prevent the need of a fret bar or string trees. if your locking nut is pressing the string down when you tighten it then your stings are riding too high on the tuners.
You're right, I touched that topic on a previous video
Bullocks.
I know i’m late to the party, i just got a guitar with a floyd rose, and the strings keep slipping out of it every time i tighten them or let it back down after propping it up with coins, i can’t even tune it, ive been at this for 8 hours. any help is so greatly appreciated
I wish i had this vídeo 10 years ago when i had my 2 only floyd rose guitars that made me never want another guitar with it.... until now
In the first step the guitar can be out of tune right? it only matters that the bridge is level?
I suppose you could also adjust the springs instead of the lower strings right?
Yes, you only need to be sure that the bridge is leveled, no matter if it's out of tune
i must have missed something....when i tune up the new strings the Floyd goes back to its original non parallel to body position?
If you start with a non parallel bridge and only change strings without touching the springs on the back, then you'll en up with a non parallel bridge again. In this video I deliverately started with a non parellel bridge to show that If you follow all these steps and do the springs thing then you'll always end with a parallel bridge, no matter if it started at an angle or not or if you are changing to a different brand/gauge of strings. Hope that makes it a little clearer!
@@InspiringTracks thanks....got there and its great!
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When I tune the strings my 1st string always pops out when I try to tune it
If it pops out from the bridge you should check that the small square block-thing that press the string against the saddle is in good shape and well positioned. Sometimes it can get dented in the string contact area after years of use. If that's the case you can use a piece of sandpaper to make it flat again and make sure that it has a good contact surface with the string
the screws for the spring tension in my guitar wont move lol
Good stuff. Changing strings this afternoon. Thanks.
Great timing! Good luck with that!
After 10 years I have restrong my fucking ibanez... No more need for a tech... Fucking genius if I could give u 1000 likes I would lol
Lol that's awesome. Glad the video was helpful!!
I do this the same way but reversed…..what?!?!
I have a block or a stack of coins taped in the thickness I need to fill out the rear of the tremolo block and the body towards the (strap button) in the spring cavity.
I loosen the springs a little bit. When I string up the guitar the tension of the strings in tune is higher than the springs.(because I loosened them) the bridge is flush due to the placed block/coins.
Intonation, etc is possible now as wel.
Do not fine tune yet don’t lock the strings.
Now you can play some to initially stretch out the strings.
Re-tune. But keep the fine tuners flat for later use.
Lock them.
Then re-tension the springs until the inserted block is only just freed from the term-block. Remove it.
You can now even fine tune almost by screwing or unscrewing the springs.
Fine tune on fine tuners. Done!
That should also work, it's kind of the same. With time everybody develops/fine tune the method that works better for him/her. Cheers!!!
Stick a wedge in there, so it always finds the required size. Half a clothes pin does it best. Steal one from your mother if you have to.
If you're afraid of everything, "protect" the finish with folded toilet paper (preferably unused).
What if I only have used 😅😅
It is hopeless tuning one of these bridges.
If you change each string one at a time while stretching it until it stays in tune and adjusting the others to tune, you'll save more time. It is unessisary to remove all six strings.
It's impossible (and a real pain) to properly clean the neck that way, remove all the strings, it's super easy
@InspiringTracks Sure. If you want to thoroughly clean your fretboard, take them all off. However, you don't have to do that every time you change strings. Maybe twice a year.
I always dread doing this haha
Ehhh loco... Una monedita pa la birra! 🤣 (unas 200 actualmente... 🤔 😭)
El chino tiene la Schneider de oferta 🤣
Easy and Floyd rose adjustment just don’t mix
Lol
I thought i was listening to a lovely waterfall at the end.
Do you have a fish tank or something?
No, it was a really rainy day. I think I even apologize in the video for the water sounds lol
@@InspiringTracks no need to apologize!
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I see something really seriously wrong with your guitar.. you need the address that quick. It doesn't have EMG 81/85s 😂🤟🏼👍🏼🎸
las monedas de 1 y 2 pesos 😂😂😂
Antes usaba un pedazo de corcho pero las monedas son más baratas 🤣
not sure i can take advice from someone who has that odd adjustment to their pickup pole-pieces ;)
Lol it gives you a more single coil-ish sound. Great for brighten dark pickups.
The biggest mistake about owning a FR term is owning a FR trem.
This video offered nothing new…
Not everybody knows how to do it, it may be new for them
@@InspiringTracks that’s my point, there’s hundreds of videos with the exact same content…
But none of them is from Inspiring Tracks
Ok, you got me there
Thank you.
Have you seen the video with Thomas Nordegg, how he puts the ball end at the tuning peg?
I don't watched that specific video but is a pretty common technique. It also works great but I don't like the look of the ball end on the tuners, specially on black ones. Just my OCD I guess lol
You really think this is as easy as a hard tail? 👎👎