It makes me so happy when I see a new up load from you Doug and Pat. Nice to know that your still around and kicking. Wow all the pick-ups sounded great and I could tell by how Doug was playing the he was enjoying them very much. To my ears the Amber's we're just a touch better to me but they all sounded impressive. Hope you do that Tele part 2 you talked about and even though they are inferior to Gibson (just kidding) maybe a strat part 1 would be great.
I Have a set of the amber spirit of 59 pick ups, they are in a recent Les Paul I bought from Greg's Guitars in Germany, was very pleased to see this episode as I've watched all the shows and already knew they hadn't had the Doug and Pat test run, they really are amazing sounding pick ups .. and glad they liked em best .. so glad whoever owned the guitar replaced the originals with amber 59's .. recommended .. thanks Doug and Pat .. greetings from N. Ireland .. 🎸🔊🎵👍
These are the alnico V magnet model too...they are now available with alnico 4 which gives a richer bottom end which is basically Oscar. Very impressed with these. Nothing on this channels came close in my opinion.
No idea the winder AmberPickups even existed, thanks for this insight, they put up a fair match against two monsters like Kloppmann and Haussel which is quite something indeed.
For my ears the Amber 59’s sounded very close to Oscar. The other pickups were close but not close enough 😊. I liked the post show interview it was very informative and the German concept of good design backed with building it right was brilliant. Thanks Doug and Pat for another great show. Ken Australia
Wolfgang Damm (the guy behind Amber Pickups) worked for Gibson in the 90s and early 2ks...and they are great. I have a Set in my Schwarz St. Helens and love them....
Wow great sounding pickups, all of them! I thought the Ambers had a little something extra, so hard to tell, though. As for the one who shall remain nameless, I guess he's forgotten his humble beginnings and is just too fancy to hang with us "commoners". ;) A dirty shame, too, because it would be great to see him here. Oh well, Doug's playing is just fine with me! Thanks again! Happy Thanksgiving, all!
Josh East I hesitate to even say it. The guys have been trying to get the one and only guitarist from ZZ Top to come on the show, but so far, no luck. I have e-mailed management several times, as I'm sure other viewers have, and nada. Nothing. Zilch. No reply at all...
I think it would be interesting not only to see the resistance value of the pickups, but also an impedance graph. Because the impedance is the resistance over the frequency spectrum this would be much more meaningful and could visualize the sound character of the pickup much better than a single resistance value. Viele Grüße aus Deutschland (Regards from Germany)
Pretty good comparison! I've played all these pickups in person and all of them are good PAF's, the häussels are very bright and can be pretty thin and fizzy sounding in many guitars, the Ambers are the exact opposite, very compressed and juicy. Kloppmanns are kind of a happy medium and probably fit most guitars quite well... There are many other great German pickup winders that make PAF's that are as good as in the comparison, e.g. Area59, David Barfuss, Leosounds, Midgeyard,...
Henning Pauly had a look at lots of German custom/boutique makers at Musikfest and virtually all of them had Haussel pups in them. I'm saving up for a set of their Perl 'buckers.
New video! Hooray! I walk away from every one of these with one thought - Oscar is a fantastic sounding guitar. I've lost track of all of the great PAF clones out there, though. So many. My current fave is the Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates.
Doug bought that Langlitz motorcycle jacket used in the 80's from the Langlitz shop in Portland. It had a pack of rolling papers (ZigZag) in the inside pocket. D&P
@@DFraserHomes I had one back then but outgrew it , recently I was surprised to find out that they are still in business so I'm in the process of ordering an "adult size" now,although I doubt it will come with any "accessories" in the pocket ! ;-)
Pat, I've searched and can't find a Beanie like yours. I need one. Any info appreciated. Oh, I anguish over the length of time between episodes. Oh, my son (in Bend) has an AC-10. Awesome.
Great show! You missed the SL 500 pick ups PG ( patent granted) with convertible housing...Man they sound awesome..plus you can go down Wilshire Boulevard top down...
What an inspeation you have been to my playing. I feel free and bouncy and my playing is a lot happier sounding. Im getting pretty good tones out of my 2014 lp traditional through both my marshall and vox i bounce back and forth. So thank you and i would love to hear a tone comparisent between oscar and the 1959 tibs in my guitar oh ps i rewired my lp with oil and paper caps ,cts pots and in the 50s style
Hey Dave, I have done the same mod to my 2014 Trad as well. After I put the new harness in that guitar it sounds very very close to old one. Those 59 tributes with the new harness are fantastic.
@@jeremyhendricks5734 yeah you can almost get tele tones to grrr . I dont think there is a better sounding lp. Every one who plays mine wants it. That said my Sg has bb 1 and 2 in it much more aggressive and also a great rock n roll machine. My lp is for blues,jimmy page, and Paul Kossoff tones. I know you love yours and are probably pretty happy not to have paid for a r9 that everybody has changed the pups in.
We use the same height with all the demos on all the pickups which is holding the strings down at the end of the neck closest to the bridge and leaving a little less that 1/8th space for the bridge pickup and a little more for the neck pickup. In real life you should experiment with your pickup height with your own amp and find the "sweet spot" for you. D&P
The Doug and Pat Show thanks a lot :) Did you change the pickup rings on that r7? I own a 2012 r7 and the pickups sit very far down in the pickup rings when adjusted to 1/8”
Hi, always enjoyed your show. How does these compare to Throbak KZ 115 and Fralin pure paf. I hv to make decisions to buy. Please help me or any other. I m looking for a vintage 59 sound. Especially "The Beast" which Bernie Marsden have.
For my German ears Oscar sounds best, closely followed by Häusel. I myself got Throbak pups in my Les Paul...maybe I should follow your president and, according to „Germany first“, only use German pups. No, I love my Throbaks, but I would love to try the Häussel.
I’ve got a set of Häussel P90s in an LP Special type guitar. They’ve got a nice blend of oomph and clarity. In this comparison the Ambers IMO have the most PAF-y mojo. The Kloppmanns are really good too.
That chirp sound in the upper register has been there and is one of the tone elements we're looking for in PAF clones. All three did it but the Ambers did it more. D&P
I play the Amber '59 in a couple of Gibsons and Maybach-guitars. Their sound is fat and juicy with a lot of "transparency". You can also hear a very little twang tendency when they're played clean - that helps the fat LP to cut better through a mix. Best choice of PAF replicas by far. Not to mention their P90-models... great!
schön das hier auch mal deutsch gesprochen wird. der sound von gitarren braucht zum glück nicht übersetzt werden. ganz ehrlich............die deutschen pickups die hier zu hören waren unterscheiden sich so gut wie garnicht untereinander u. auch nicht vom original gibson PAF. wenn doch dann höre ich schon schlecht, jedenfalls konnte ich keinen unterschied feststellen. gut das es die doug & pat show gibt habe bis jetzt schon alle gesehen/gehört
Hey Pat, penny for your thoughts when Doug talks about the short leg pick up screws and you said you like the long leg and then Doug says, "it's easier to put them in". I can't be the only one who thought this way?????? Right Pat????
Amazing tone that you get out of that Vox. I actually thought the the last Pups were really sweet and had a heavier bottom end and came very close as far as duplicating the sound of the O.G. That said, I actually did prefer the Amber and I just wanted to say that with the leather jackets you guys look like maybe you could moonlight as a Ramones tribute band on weekends ? No ?..... Are you fellers in PDX ? 2nd time viewer and now subscribed. Last time(1st time) I saw the show was about 1957 Les Paul Jr.'s one of my favorite Guitars ever. We used to get them out of a local rag called the Recycler here in So.CA.in Excellent Cond. for 500.00-600.00 Bucks in around 79-'80. Crazy huh. The old pawn shops in Vancouver had some doozies also on Main St.? around '79-80 when I came back up to my moms and we moved to Camas,WA.I actually lived my Jr.High and Sophomore years up there in Kelso,WA and Camas,then came up as an adult in '82-83 I believe. Shit, I'm losing my memory and don't care anymore. What was I talking about...
Hi guys, To my ear, nothing comes even close to Oscar (apart maybe Gib's CustomBuckers or SD's Antiquities). I've had Ambers on a Collings City Limits and wasn't convinced. To me, they were too high output. Regarding German PU's, you should give a look at LEOSOUND pickups. They have a "Vintage Player PAF" that has a good reputation. Greg Hilden, the guitar dealer/musician seems to like them. Also, they are not THAT expensive (abt. 200 € a set). My favorite remains the Seymour Duncan Jazz in the neck and SH-2B in the bridge (not the hot rod set with an SH-4 - much too harsh). Thanks for all your vids and good luck for the show. I dig it !! \m/
This is one of the things we love about doing our little show is to get this exchange of ideas, experiences and preferences from players who are serious about it so thanks for that. For ourselves, we are reacting to what we hear in our little studio comparing sounds to Oscar the Beast and yeah, this guitar is going to be hard to beat and we don't know why. That said, in our space through our amps the Amber in this case has serious harmonic overtones that we aren't getting from other great sounding PAF clones and that's why we mention it. Everyone should be aware (as we discussed in our "Where Does Tone Come From" show that your tastes, choice of amp and pedals if you use them are all factors too. There is no arguing with what one's favorite color is and the same is true for tone, we all get to choose. D&P
Oscar is awesome. Doug, you really seem more comfortable with that than the R9. I assume you guys still gig now and then. You've never used or mentioned any pedals on the show, do you ever use them live?
To my ears the amber set sounded even clearer than the Oscar pickups. But modern les Paul sound darker so it should be perfect for newer guitars. And with the new set being Alnico 4 it should be perfect.
And matching up the pickups to the pot values is important to get a balance of the high end without sounding brittle. The Amber "Spirit of '59" set in the Heritage work well with the VIP 500k pots which are real nice. D&P
Why not use the Heritage les paul? Sounds better than this R7, and it's what you've used in all the other pickup shootouts. Is this the same R7 with the black pickguard used in past videos? I don't think it is.
You gays are awesom. I wish you made the show more often, pelease forgive my english it's not my home language. Cheers from Brazil.🎸🎸🎸oh sorry thats a strat
I'm gonna slightly correct these time stamps below ...Oscar 8:31 -- Haussel 13:47 --- Spirit 59 19:59 -- Kloppman 27:03 is it by accident that the sprit of 59s start at 1959 idk better buy a set... I'll be honest here either my ears are completely shot from coming to age in the early mid 1970s hitting all those stadium concerts or these all sound really dam close to one & other..
We always set the pickup height the same for all pickup demos which is, while holding the strings down at the end of the neck by the neck pickup we adjust the bridge pickup a shade less than 1/8th inch from the strings and the neck a bit more than 1/4 inch. For real life we suggest experimentation depending on your amp etc. Where we adjust them for demos is where we leave them for real life. D&P
How do you feel about the antiquity as opposed to the Spirit of 59? They both seem to have overtones and similar tone, but different, so how do they differ in the room?
They both sound great but the comparison is probably summed up best in our show with Bonamassa about getting tone. He describes his two 58 Flying V's (we know, gag) as one sounding sweeter like a Les Paul and the other one being louder and brighter and in his words more aggressive. That's how we feel about these two pickups, at least through our amps in our studio. The Antiquity is sweet and the Amber is brighter with more "scream" I guess you would say. Is one better than the other? Of course not, that's up to the player, their taste in tone combined with what amp they play through and their own playing technique. Hope that helps. D&P
The Doug and Pat Show Yavult! Thank you, that’s why I asked. In the tube I hear the ant’s as having a bright top three strings, And the Amber having a bassier crossover underlying the strings and I hear the steely attack floating around the upper register. In other WORDS haha, it sounds as if the 59 has a beefier sound
are you guys posting these on the "Chasing Oscar" page!? so far, RCs are my number 1 out of the PAF clones, with ThroBak A2s number 2, really want to compare those to the Amber PAFs
Hi Charles. When you say “RC” do you mean Rob Conley’s? That makes me wince. I ordered and paid for a set of his Bloodline ‘59s a year and a half ago. I believe he had some health problems but he assured me multiple times that the pickups would be coming soon. He has stopped responding to emails altogether now but the website is still active. No updates on the Facebook page for a year though. I fear either his health problems have got the better of him or his workload has overwhelmed him. Very sad. Also sad for me as I was very keen to hear those pickups. He wound me some Tele pickups that I think are fantastic. They were what prompted me to order the Bloodlines. Of course...you may be referring to a different “RC”...
Heres a question Id really like to know the answer to. A brand new 1958 les paul in 1958....How much different did they sound then compared to a 1958 now? Also a brand new 1958 original back then vs a brand new 58 Reissue now? Will an R8 sound like a burst 50 years time? How much of the magic is the affect of time on these guitars? This cant be objectively answered but Id like an opinion from somebody who has experience of both 🤔
aasou the use of sunburst Les Pauls was in the 60s and 70s when the guitars were only 5 to 10 years old. The difference in those old guitars is mostly the old-growth woods used, and the non-mass produced craftsmanship of the builders. Newer guitars will never be quite the same as those, but I think we have more and better PAFs then we did back then. Check out Throbak pickups, or Sheptone for instance.
Hey, guys... I’m thinking of building an amp like your Vox amps, that sound so great. I need the schematic, though. Do you know where i can get that there thing? Thanks!!
All I can say is that because the amp is beyond phenomenal, it kind of makes it all irrelevant. This particular amp is 95% of the tone we hear in this video.
Greetings from Germany! You guys are the best.
It makes me so happy when I see a new up load from you Doug and Pat. Nice to know that your still around and kicking. Wow all the pick-ups sounded great and I could tell by how Doug was playing the he was enjoying them very much. To my ears the Amber's we're just a touch better to me but they all sounded impressive. Hope you do that Tele part 2 you talked about and even though they are inferior to Gibson (just kidding) maybe a strat part 1 would be great.
I Have a set of the amber spirit of 59 pick ups, they are in a recent Les Paul I bought from Greg's Guitars in Germany, was very pleased to see this episode as I've watched all the shows and already knew they hadn't had the Doug and Pat test run, they really are amazing sounding pick ups .. and glad they liked em best .. so glad whoever owned the guitar replaced the originals with amber 59's .. recommended .. thanks Doug and Pat .. greetings from N. Ireland .. 🎸🔊🎵👍
Oscar 8:30 -- Haussel 13:46 --- Spirit 59 19:57 -- Kloppman 27:02
Awesome guys! Always enjoy your informative and interesting videos.
Thanks so much. 👍👍
Miss you guys. Wish you would make more videos!
Spirit of 59 is gaining on Oscar!
These are the alnico V magnet model too...they are now available with alnico 4 which gives a richer bottom end which is basically Oscar. Very impressed with these. Nothing on this channels came close in my opinion.
I agree, they sound great.
No idea the winder AmberPickups even existed, thanks for this insight, they put up a fair match against two monsters like Kloppmann and Haussel which is quite something indeed.
I love that the humbuckers are more noise cancelling than the leather jackets....
Love the show too
Neil
Australia
For my ears the Amber 59’s sounded very close to Oscar. The other pickups were close but not close enough 😊. I liked the post show interview it was very informative and the German concept of good design backed with building it right was brilliant. Thanks Doug and Pat for another great show. Ken Australia
I just shared this on the TDPRI so fans know you produced another fine program.
I say thank you for this great show...greetings from Germany💥🎸🎼✌️☮️👍
I loved all three!
Best guitar etc review show ever!
Wolfgang Damm (the guy behind Amber Pickups) worked for Gibson in the 90s and early 2ks...and they are great. I have a Set in my Schwarz St. Helens and love them....
Them Ambers are something else. I will be ordering a set.
I have yet to hear pups as good as the ones used in the intros and outros of their vids!
Wow great sounding pickups, all of them! I thought the Ambers had a little something extra, so hard to tell, though. As for the one who shall remain nameless, I guess he's forgotten his humble beginnings and is just too fancy to hang with us "commoners". ;) A dirty shame, too, because it would be great to see him here. Oh well, Doug's playing is just fine with me! Thanks again! Happy Thanksgiving, all!
Richard Ruth I keep hearing about this “one who shall remain nameless”, what’s the deal there? Who is this guy?
Josh East I hesitate to even say it. The guys have been trying to get the one and only guitarist from ZZ Top to come on the show, but so far, no luck. I have e-mailed management several times, as I'm sure other viewers have, and nada. Nothing. Zilch. No reply at all...
Richard Ruth that would be a great show indeed!!
When you shifty cats were by the gate discussing "one more"....ya both looked UNBELIEVABLY shifty. Great show guys!
I am German speaking from Austria. Nice of you. Thanks for the video
Great show like always guys!!!
Missed you guys! Interesting stuff!
Good video.
"The language of Love"
Good response Doug!
Love your show guys! Interestering story from Pat! Keep up the good work!
Commenting before watching, so happy for a new upload.
If it's not the same aged wood,or same guitar ,can't tell.
Sound pretty damn good anyhow
Great show guys. Please continue with the episodes and chasing Oscar...
I think it would be interesting not only to see the resistance value of the pickups, but also an impedance graph. Because the impedance is the resistance over the frequency spectrum this would be much more meaningful and could visualize the sound character of the pickup much better than a single resistance value. Viele Grüße aus Deutschland (Regards from Germany)
Doug's jacket still retains the grunt of the animal it was made from. I'm guessing Warthog.
"Thank you Hank for coming on the show... we would like to ask you to translate for us" - LOL
Pretty good comparison! I've played all these pickups in person and all of them are good PAF's, the häussels are very bright and can be pretty thin and fizzy sounding in many guitars, the Ambers are the exact opposite, very compressed and juicy. Kloppmanns are kind of a happy medium and probably fit most guitars quite well... There are many other great German pickup winders that make PAF's that are as good as in the comparison, e.g. Area59, David Barfuss, Leosounds, Midgeyard,...
Henning Pauly had a look at lots of German custom/boutique makers at Musikfest and virtually all of them had Haussel pups in them. I'm saving up for a set of their Perl 'buckers.
Glad you made this video. There's a ton of winders in Germany that are doing great (largely unnoticed) work.
Hey dudes !! German here - thanks for your deep trust in German Engineering and Pickup Artistry ;)
Stellar sounds in this episode - you are legends 👍
New video! Hooray! I walk away from every one of these with one thought - Oscar is a fantastic sounding guitar. I've lost track of all of the great PAF clones out there, though. So many. My current fave is the Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates.
Enjoyed the show a lot ! Diggin' the Langlitz jacket. Thanks guys !
Doug bought that Langlitz motorcycle jacket used in the 80's from the Langlitz shop in Portland. It had a pack of rolling papers (ZigZag) in the inside pocket. D&P
@@DFraserHomes I had one back then but outgrew it , recently I was surprised to find out that they are still in business so I'm in the process of ordering an "adult size" now,although I doubt it will come with any "accessories" in the pocket ! ;-)
Let Pat out for some Sun, Willy's Dougie 😀😀🍻
Waiting years for this episode!
Greetings from Germany!
Doug loved Germany especially Berlin and we were flattered that Edin of Checkpoint Guitars reached out to us. Great pickups all the way around. D&P
Oh and did I forget to say, thanks for another great video!
OMG Oscar is just the Muts Nuts 🥜
The R7 sounds nice. I like the Haeussels. Makes me want a Goldtop. Then I have to remind myself I have a Goldtop!
Pat, I've searched and can't find a Beanie like yours. I need one. Any info appreciated. Oh, I anguish over the length of time between episodes. Oh, my son (in Bend) has an AC-10. Awesome.
Great show! You missed the SL 500 pick ups PG ( patent granted) with convertible housing...Man they sound awesome..plus you can go down Wilshire Boulevard top down...
It "takes my breath away" that Doug is a Berlin fan.
Hey, at least he finally owns up to it!
I just love the reverb on the drums. Doug
The Amber's sound nearly identical to Oscar through my little JBL's.. Granted it's all digital, but sonically, it was pretty damn close.
From where we were sitting we agree with that. D&P
Crap thats what I thought about the Amber 59! Thank you for saying that.
Nice Vid Thanks for sharing and Happy X-Mas to you guys!
What an inspeation you have been to my playing. I feel free and bouncy and my playing is a lot happier sounding. Im getting pretty good tones out of my 2014 lp traditional through both my marshall and vox i bounce back and forth. So thank you and i would love to hear a tone comparisent between oscar and the 1959 tibs in my guitar oh ps i rewired my lp with oil and paper caps ,cts pots and in the 50s style
Hey Dave, I have done the same mod to my 2014 Trad as well. After I put the new harness in that guitar it sounds very very close to old one. Those 59 tributes with the new harness are fantastic.
@@jeremyhendricks5734 yeah you can almost get tele tones to grrr . I dont think there is a better sounding lp. Every one who plays mine wants it. That said my Sg has bb 1 and 2 in it much more aggressive and also a great rock n roll machine. My lp is for blues,jimmy page, and Paul Kossoff tones. I know you love yours and are probably pretty happy not to have paid for a r9 that everybody has changed the pups in.
It's so wonderful to see you again! I thought you guys quit!
bought me some Amber 59s
Great video! Really liked the Amber pickups 👍🏼
How do you find the correct pickup height?
We use the same height with all the demos on all the pickups which is holding the strings down at the end of the neck closest to the bridge and leaving a little less that 1/8th space for the bridge pickup and a little more for the neck pickup. In real life you should experiment with your pickup height with your own amp and find the "sweet spot" for you. D&P
The Doug and Pat Show thanks a lot :)
Did you change the pickup rings on that r7? I own a 2012 r7 and the pickups sit very far down in the pickup rings when adjusted to 1/8”
The kloppman sound great
Much better than taking on the RAF.
Hi, always enjoyed your show. How does these compare to Throbak KZ 115 and Fralin pure paf. I hv to make decisions to buy. Please help me or any other. I m looking for a vintage 59 sound. Especially "The Beast" which Bernie Marsden have.
For my German ears Oscar sounds best, closely followed by Häusel. I myself got Throbak pups in my Les
Paul...maybe I should follow your president and, according to „Germany first“, only use German pups.
No, I love my Throbaks, but I would love to try the Häussel.
soon as i heard the haussell i liked it! has that paf growl!
Guys, You need to come to the "Mannheim Guitar Summit" in Sept! Great guitar show. I'll be there again next year(2019) with Pyramid Strings!
Haha you guys are great. Must not have hit the notification bell. Everybody hit the damn bell or you will be a week late for the party.
Great show!
I’ve got a set of Häussel P90s in an LP Special type guitar. They’ve got a nice blend of oomph and clarity. In this comparison the Ambers IMO have the most PAF-y mojo. The Kloppmanns are really good too.
Hi guys good to see you all back.
Did you get the video of the AC-10 from me?
For me, I choose the Amber pickups. Saludos desde España!
Gaspar, siempre es un placer mi amigo, siempre. Doug
@@DFraserHomes Thanks so much!
Oscar has a new chirp sound! PAF's finally relaxing after all these years? Either that or Doug has added a slightly new picking attack? Nice.
That chirp sound in the upper register has been there and is one of the tone elements we're looking for in PAF clones. All three did it but the Ambers did it more. D&P
I play the Amber '59 in a couple of Gibsons and Maybach-guitars. Their sound is fat and juicy with a lot of "transparency". You can also hear a very little twang tendency when they're played clean - that helps the fat LP to cut better through a mix. Best choice of PAF replicas by far. Not to mention their P90-models... great!
Another really great show, thanks guys! Doug, did you get to the Hard Rock Café in Berlin? It´s my favourite!
Newer ones are always louder,due to the age of magnets and wire, maby solder joints to
Y’all should check out the Parson Street PAF Pickups from Stew Mac if y’all get a chance. They come in alnico 2 and 5 and they’re unpotted
Great playing.
Thanks for the reply.
schön das hier auch mal deutsch gesprochen wird. der sound von gitarren braucht zum glück nicht übersetzt werden. ganz ehrlich............die deutschen pickups die hier zu hören waren unterscheiden sich so gut wie garnicht untereinander u. auch nicht vom original gibson PAF. wenn doch dann höre ich schon schlecht, jedenfalls konnte ich keinen unterschied feststellen.
gut das es die doug & pat show gibt habe bis jetzt schon alle gesehen/gehört
Hey Pat, penny for your thoughts when Doug talks about the short leg pick up screws and you said you like the long leg and then Doug says, "it's easier to put them in". I can't be the only one who thought this way?????? Right Pat????
Amazing tone that you get out of that Vox. I actually thought the the last Pups were really sweet and had a heavier bottom end and came very close as far as duplicating the sound of the O.G. That said, I actually did prefer the Amber and I just wanted to say that with the leather jackets you guys look like maybe you could moonlight as a Ramones tribute band on weekends ? No ?..... Are you fellers in PDX ? 2nd time viewer and now subscribed. Last time(1st time) I saw the show was about 1957 Les Paul Jr.'s one of my favorite Guitars ever. We used to get them out of a local rag called the Recycler here in So.CA.in Excellent Cond. for 500.00-600.00 Bucks in around 79-'80. Crazy huh. The old pawn shops in Vancouver had some doozies also on Main St.? around '79-80 when I came back up to my moms and we moved to Camas,WA.I actually lived my Jr.High and Sophomore years up there in Kelso,WA and Camas,then came up as an adult in '82-83 I believe. Shit, I'm losing my memory and don't care anymore. What was I talking about...
Hi guys, To my ear, nothing comes even close to Oscar (apart maybe Gib's CustomBuckers or SD's Antiquities). I've had Ambers on a Collings City Limits and wasn't convinced. To me, they were too high output. Regarding German PU's, you should give a look at LEOSOUND pickups. They have a "Vintage Player PAF" that has a good reputation. Greg Hilden, the guitar dealer/musician seems to like them. Also, they are not THAT expensive (abt. 200 € a set). My favorite remains the Seymour Duncan Jazz in the neck and SH-2B in the bridge (not the hot rod set with an SH-4 - much too harsh). Thanks for all your vids and good luck for the show. I dig it !! \m/
This is one of the things we love about doing our little show is to get this exchange of ideas, experiences and preferences from players who are serious about it so thanks for that. For ourselves, we are reacting to what we hear in our little studio comparing sounds to Oscar the Beast and yeah, this guitar is going to be hard to beat and we don't know why. That said, in our space through our amps the Amber in this case has serious harmonic overtones that we aren't getting from other great sounding PAF clones and that's why we mention it. Everyone should be aware (as we discussed in our "Where Does Tone Come From" show that your tastes, choice of amp and pedals if you use them are all factors too. There is no arguing with what one's favorite color is and the same is true for tone, we all get to choose. D&P
Are you doing this same setting
May have missed it but what amp are you guys playing through? Sounds KILLER!
I like the Haussel low notes
Ramones!
Oscar is awesome. Doug, you really seem more comfortable with that than the R9. I assume you guys still gig now and then. You've never used or mentioned any pedals on the show, do you ever use them live?
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In my Haar Tele there is an Amber humbucker in the neck position and it sound really sweet. It might be the pick up I like the most of them all.
To my ears the amber set sounded even clearer than the Oscar pickups. But modern les Paul sound darker so it should be perfect for newer guitars. And with the new set being Alnico 4 it should be perfect.
And matching up the pickups to the pot values is important to get a balance of the high end without sounding brittle. The Amber "Spirit of '59" set in the Heritage work well with the VIP 500k pots which are real nice. D&P
Why not use the Heritage les paul? Sounds better than this R7, and it's what you've used in all the other pickup shootouts. Is this the same R7 with the black pickguard used in past videos? I don't think it is.
How about a shootout of all those old practice amps that you have behind you, which is the "Oscar" of your amp collection ( besides the AC 10 )!
Nice pups, all 3, but those prices are insane.
You gays are awesom. I wish you made the show more often, pelease forgive my english it's not my home language. Cheers from Brazil.🎸🎸🎸oh sorry thats a strat
Leonardo Rohr you gay’s, hahaha!
Sounds like the krauts know what their doing!!! Great video guys.
I'm gonna slightly correct these time stamps below ...Oscar 8:31 -- Haussel 13:47 --- Spirit 59 19:59 -- Kloppman 27:03 is it by accident that the sprit of 59s start at 1959 idk better buy a set... I'll be honest here either my ears are completely shot from coming to age in the early mid 1970s hitting all those stadium concerts or these all sound really dam close to one & other..
Are Amber pickups wax potted ? Regards from France
Hi, sorry if I missed: what amp are you playing through?
All that leather , you could almost reconstruct a whole cow , ha ,nice show but that is always the case
Just wondering how you set your pickups when demoing them? Also you guys need to offer a Doug and pat coffee mug.
We always set the pickup height the same for all pickup demos which is, while holding the strings down at the end of the neck by the neck pickup we adjust the bridge pickup a shade less than 1/8th inch from the strings and the neck a bit more than 1/4 inch. For real life we suggest experimentation depending on your amp etc. Where we adjust them for demos is where we leave them for real life. D&P
u guys gotta twitter ?? i wanna keep in contact with my homies
I agree! How about a Facebook group? 😎
How do you feel about the antiquity as opposed to the Spirit of 59? They both seem to have overtones and similar tone, but different, so how do they differ in the room?
They both sound great but the comparison is probably summed up best in our show with Bonamassa about getting tone. He describes his two 58 Flying V's (we know, gag) as one sounding sweeter like a Les Paul and the other one being louder and brighter and in his words more aggressive. That's how we feel about these two pickups, at least through our amps in our studio. The Antiquity is sweet and the Amber is brighter with more "scream" I guess you would say. Is one better than the other? Of course not, that's up to the player, their taste in tone combined with what amp they play through and their own playing technique. Hope that helps. D&P
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Yavult! Thank you, that’s why I asked. In the tube I hear the ant’s as having a bright top three strings, And the Amber having a bassier crossover underlying the strings and I hear the steely attack floating around the upper register.
In other WORDS haha, it sounds as if the 59 has a beefier sound
They all sound good. Is the guitar straight into the amp? sounds killer.
We plug straight into the amp, never use pedals for pickup demos. D&P
@@DFraserHomes Cheers Bros. Love the videos. All the best from the UK.
are you guys posting these on the "Chasing Oscar" page!? so far, RCs are my number 1 out of the PAF clones, with ThroBak A2s number 2, really want to compare those to the Amber PAFs
Hi Charles. When you say “RC” do you mean Rob Conley’s? That makes me wince. I ordered and paid for a set of his Bloodline ‘59s a year and a half ago. I believe he had some health problems but he assured me multiple times that the pickups would be coming soon. He has stopped responding to emails altogether now but the website is still active. No updates on the Facebook page for a year though. I fear either his health problems have got the better of him or his workload has overwhelmed him. Very sad. Also sad for me as I was very keen to hear those pickups. He wound me some Tele pickups that I think are fantastic. They were what prompted me to order the Bloodlines. Of course...you may be referring to a different “RC”...
Andrew Kemp no more RC Reverb listings either 🤷🏻♂️
Hmmmm. Sad. A terrific wonder. Would have liked something for my $300 too.
Heres a question Id really like to know the answer to. A brand new 1958 les paul in 1958....How much different did they sound then compared to a 1958 now? Also a brand new 1958 original back then vs a brand new 58 Reissue now? Will an R8 sound like a burst 50 years time? How much of the magic is the affect of time on these guitars? This cant be objectively answered but Id like an opinion from somebody who has experience of both 🤔
aasou the use of sunburst Les Pauls was in the 60s and 70s when the guitars were only 5 to 10 years old. The difference in those old guitars is mostly the old-growth woods used, and the non-mass produced craftsmanship of the builders. Newer guitars will never be quite the same as those, but I think we have more and better PAFs then we did back then. Check out Throbak pickups, or Sheptone for instance.
Hey, guys... I’m thinking of building an amp like your Vox amps, that sound so great. I need the schematic, though. Do you know where i can get that there thing? Thanks!!
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Phil and Catherine Muzio Thank you!
You’re very welcome. Hope this is the version you were looking for.
Phil and Catherine Muzio I’m afraid only Doug and Pat know... and they’re not chiming in. Thanks again.
They've done a show about that amp
Hi Guys, for me I think that the originals PAF on Oscar are the best !
Oscar is one of the best sounding 50's Les Paul's we have ever heard so yeah, people (including us) tend to like it a lot. D&P
Doug, did it shock you ?
Ambers sounded best but the other two were great two.....I'm undecided which I liked better of those 2...maybe the Hausell
All I can say is that because the amp is beyond phenomenal, it kind of makes it all irrelevant. This particular amp is 95% of the tone we hear in this video.
Its only an old vox ac10. I dont think it's a big deal. Just not my favourite, when they used the old fenders that was great
It helps but it’s not all!