All sentient creatures actions are generated by "feelings" fundamentally. Thats how all brains work and are made....even AI has positive and negative reinforcement structures required for its creation and function...which it will interpret as feelings. Feelings are necessary and are not necessarily irrational. They are expedient and a form of instinctual memory of past "facts" from ancestors who survived when satisfying those feelings. There are no Vulcans nor will there ever be a useful sentient machine without feelings. Without feelings, there would be no e-motivation to even discover facts. Those who "claim" they base their actions on facts and not feelings are just lying and hiding some (pretty bad) feelings towards others.
The problem is that they believed that they represented the majority on this issue and like the rest of the issues their ideology represents the extremist minority.
if they actually believed they represented the majority, they wouldn't be so desperate to suppress votes. they know their positions are unpopular, but they believe that only they should have a say.
@@crispyblack8779 If we kick them hard enough at the polls they may be forced to rethink their methods or maybe we could vote them into insignificance.
GOP: “Small government. Except for your bedroom. Or religion. Or freedom to protest. Or science. Or, well, anything really. We are your rulers. Do as we say and get hung out to dry. We have a law to dispossess you. Just pick the subject. Love big government.” (Proceeds to lick a doorknob)
Ad hominem I know, but whenever I see Charlie Kirk, the first thought in my mind is always, "Big head, tiny face!" I can't help it, the ratio is just so out of whack.
@@jeanneganrude8549100% and the other argument is this myth that women use it as birth control when, ya know, birth control exists. But I’d be willing to go one step further and say ‘So what?’ So what if they do, it’s their body, it doesn’t belong to the Republican Party.
Exactly, by that point anyone who doesn’t want the baby would put it up for adoption. Even if they magically woke up from a coma pregnant at 8 months it’s safer to just deliver and put it up for adoption than to “abort” a full term baby.
This! This is the kind of cross examination we should all do with fear mongery arguments like that. Like, what's the utility of waiting 8 1/2 months?? Why go through all of that? There is no logic. But that's just it. It's pure feels, they want us to assume these women are trying to maximise the shock for entertainment or something. If you really try to rationalize the actions of that the far right implies, it's bats***t. Like, crackhead under the overpass level nonsense. I swear, conservative "arguments" have gotten significantly dumber and more clickbait-y in recent election cycles. What was the goofiness of far right, AM radio hosts is now the mainline party. And they wonder why we don't take them seriously.
@@jeanneganrude8549 Most conservatives have a feeble grasp at reality, let alone biology. They believe they came from a mud pie having sex with its rib. People 🤷🤷🤡
It's not only about control, it is about a deep seated hatred of women. Because what they believe is that women enjoy being able to get rid of their babies. They actually seem to think that women just wait til 7 or 8 months just for the fun of it. I don't see this being called out nearly enough.
The babies are just a smokescreen and means to the end of their real goal of increasing the amount of slavery the country will tolerate. Most Americans aren't ready to face that there are more kinds of slavery than the chattel slavery that happened to the kidnapped Africans and their decendents. And do stuff like admit that their grandma's were literally owned as property by their husband's until the 1970s. And that the people trying to return to those bad old days are often explicitly supremacist, pro slavery, and segregationist in motivation.
They'll pretend though ... I've been in intense discussions about abortion and life and stuff. Some fervently believe it's murder. Now, I think it's because they've bought into Republican/Conservative talking points thought.
@@john.premoseTheir talking points are beyond ridiculous. No woman goes through the majority of her pregnancy just to change her mind in the last 3 months. I can’t believe they’re not ridiculed more often for these ludicrous claims ~
This isn’t about abortion. It’s about the woman’s place. Men are “supposed” to be in Leadership over women. It’s a religious thing. Why are they still dancing around this?
Support or opposition for abortion isn’t split on gender lines. Religious background, location and race (with minorities more likely to be pro life) are far better predictors. From Pew Research Center
Religion is the longest-running scam ever. Part of the propaganda in the bible is putting down women. That’s why the book of Mary(Jesus’ wife) was left out. There is no god, and Jesus couldn’t save his own butt, much less yours.
@@HkFinn83 also ideology conservatives, and conservative men, especally OLD paedo men, want to kill it take away the indoctrination by conservative media and you could almost guarantee it's a gender-line thing old conservative men would then be for it and all alone, because no one vooluntarily gives up their rights and bodily autonomy without a con in the work
Because... they're cowards, no 2 ways about it. It's always been crappy excuses to disguise a horridly unpopular and authoritarian mindset that even they know is too vile to openly campaign for.
I don't get it? Your implying If their mothers had abortions they wouldn't be alive today? I thought abortions weren't actually killing babies? Could aborted fetuses have eventually been full grown human beings if not aborted? This is news to me and makes me second guess myself on the moral implications of the issue.
dogshit outcomes for american public is always going to be the deathnail for the GOP. every 10 years they need to rebrand as the old party gets everything it wants, the country turns on them to a point that they have no option but to change everything they can about themselves. Bush was popular at the time. he was the only thing the GOP had to take on the Democratic brand of clinton. almost as soon as he got outa office, the entire brand of that GOP. was so toxic bush disappeared from public life as a disgraced president, the entire country falls in to a recession, there is a massive defict and the ME is blown to bits. trump only continues this exact path. MAGA was the rebranding
I honestly think that the less someone knows about abortion, the more pro-life they are. Pro-lifers adopt an absolutist view on human morality in this one case and this one case only. Murder is wrong ALWAYS when it's against a fetus, but they don't apply that absolutist view to everything because you CAN'T! Murder is NOT always wrong, and 99.999% of conservatives agree that murder in self-defense is justified. It's not (always) the case that they just hate women. Most pro-lifers I know just genuinely have not THOUGHT that deeply about *why* it is that abortion has been legal for so long. It. Is. NECESSARY.
Funny also how shamelessly they utilized "my body, my choice" language when it came to vaccines. It's my personal choice, even when it affects other people! But when it's a personal choice that DOESN'T affect other people, it's suddenly their business somehow
You should look up the x case in Ireland and also Savita who died in hospital after refusal of a necessary abortion, and a woman who was kept on life support while decomposing due to a fetus with a heartbeat against the wishes of her husband and existing children. Where the law supersedes healthcare, where it goes is macabre and endangering to women.
@@jeanneganrude8549 the husband and her parents had to go to court for permission to let her go, she was already dead and her body was decomposing. The fetus was unviable, but doctors had to allow it to continue or they risked jail themselves due to the heartbeat. It was honestly so incredibly disturbing. In court doctors said they tried to research the effect of a decaying body on a fetus but they literally couldn’t find a similar case to get medical information anywhere in the world. It was horrific.
The most disgusting thing about the abortion issue is that the doctor is punished, anyone helping the woman is punished and of course the woman but, no men are held accountable for their role. Where is the punishment for the men?
"Should we go extreme quickly or try to sneak up on everyone? That's the important question here. Obviously, I'm not suggesting that we don't go extreme. We're conservatives. We must go EXTREME."
It is morally right to respect the dignity and bodily autonomy of pregnant people. Embryos, zygotes, and fetuses are NOT babies or children. The life of the pregnant person is MORE important than the life of an embryo, zygote, or fetus.
I used to be "pro-life". Then my wife got pregnant, and I saw how incredibly lucky we were to have a healthy baby, and how easy it is for things to go south at every stage of pregnancy. Pregnancy is stressful and delicate, and it's definitely not for everyone. Now I'm strongly pro-choice.
@@mrabon8 nope, you can put an embryo in a freezer for years and it will stay alive. You can NOT put a baby in a freezer. Ignorance is the biggest danger to real babies.
I've never met a smart person that was anti-choice, nor have i ever heard an argument against abortion that was based on logic or for the good of society as a whole.
Then you haven't met many people from the anti abortion crowd. I knew a woman with a doctorate in library sciences and a degree in social work that was anti abortion.
The anti-choice crowd has never, ever held a positive poll position with the majority of women let alone all Americans on THEIR issue. The only reason they force this sort of legal violence on women is because of religion.
"The heartbeat restriction is significantly more popular than a full ban." This is political spin that actually translates to "The heartbeat restriction is significantly less incredibly unpopular than a full ban, but is still exceptionally unpopular."
Christopher... they know that. They don't care. They are authoritarian religious fascists who want to impose themselves on everyone else. And they are totally open about their fantasies of using violence to do it. "Project 2025"
Because they can’t hide their Fascism and theocratic tendencies. Their position on women’s repro rights is just one of the many pillars of their extremely low opinion they have of the vast majority of Americans. These guys would without exaggeration rather just have the male portion of the 1% doing all the property owning, voting, making any kind of decisions, etc. They are enemies of democracy and liberty, and lie about wanting to protect thise as much or more than they lie about their anti-choicism being about “saving livbbs”.
Good advice. However I fear that these laws are not targeting the people that can make those decisions but rather those that can't. I'm thinking mostly of the deeply religious communities where woman are not respected.
3:03 "unborn kids". There's literally no such thing. This is the type of misleading and subtly subversive rhetoric that confuses the issue further for many people.
His phrasing is so telling. "They want abortion as an option in case their daughter get pregnant." He cannot conceive of a woman as a fully mature, independent, responsible person getting an abortion because it's what that person wants. The idea of a woman seeking an abortion starts and ends with a child whose parents want her to have one. This is so revealing it's making me crazy and I could seriously think about just that sentence forever but I won't lol.
If republicans believe that “abortion is murder” then they are literally saying “murder is a states right issue” And I find this genuinely amazing. Biggest wow ever.
Isn't murder... nearly always? A states rights issue? States set the standard for what rises to murder (vs manslaughter), states set the levels of murder (i.e. first degree), states determine the punishment for each degree (choosing or not to adhere to the federal sentencing guidelines, with the exception of federal minimums), and states ultimately imprison or otherwise punish the convicted. The only real exceptions are murder that take place in DC, go across state lines, international, etc.
@@tim3172 The argument is that federal murder laws are in line with state laws and state laws all hold murder to be a crime. With abortion law what is murder in one state would not be in another state, or federally.
It is incredible that their strongly, passionately held views about the sanctity of ALL life are chucked away so quickly when they see it’s a vote loser. That says everything you need to know about these people
Yes, the states' rights argument has always been specious. To start with, states don't have rights in the way people usually imagine them. They have powers. If you think states have rights under the Constitution, you need to read more carefully. Quite aside from that, though, no one should imagine that people calling abortion "murdering babies" for fifty years are going to settle for it being "legal in Jersey". That defies common sense.
@@Peter_Wendt then you need to meet better people, they're clearly below you imagine wanting to sacrifice your own autonomy and that of your immediate family because a lunatic on TV said you should agree with them
I would love that, to be honest. If the gop tried to eliminate ss or medicare/medicaid, they will REALLY find out what "catching the car" means, and I will so be here for it with my popcorn.
They should be made to wear shock collars, hooked up to a lie detector. At least when they are in committee, on the floor, fundraising, town halls, on TV. Let's see what they really have in mind. It would be extra sweet for the ex LIAR-IN-CHIEF to wear one in from if the cameras!!!
It amazes me that Ben never even considers the idea of trying to improve the situation in peoples' lives, or make sure more people have healthcare or child care etc, which would actually reduce the number of abortions. No of course not, that would make too much sense for him. His only calculation is how can we "gradually" ban it over time, as if nobody will notice if you just do it really slowly. Smh
becuase he's an ayn rand shithead ''life is suffering, therefore everyone is defined by mein kampf; or in english, ''my stuggle''. to struggle is to survive, to survive is to live, those who do not suffer or struggle are empty and souless''
Same with inflation. These clowns will yap our ear off 24/7 about it and how people can't afford anything, but if you ask why aren't they campaigning for wage adjustments to compensate for that inflation, they hate it. They never have a solution. They blame biden for the prices, yet I still have never heard what Trump is supposedly going to do differently about it. It's almost like his magical presence in and of itself would compell things to change. It's never about the people, it's about latching on to the grievance of the time to distract from their own unpopular policies.
Push the ban as early as possible? So all men in chastity belts at all times? Or does he just mean any women can be put in jail under "suspicion to harm her fetus" regardless of if she is actually pregnant.
Also, Republicans need to reconsider their position on SNAP, WIC or subsidizing day care which could be funded by having the wealthy contribute to increase taxes but the revenue will provide a better standard of life for those who are working multiple jobs to afford basic needs for families.
I'm 70 and a life-long FORMER republican. Cripes where do a turn now. I just want an honest government that wants to pay its bills and a gov free of corruption. Thats all
Economy consistently does better and is more stable under democratic presidents and they keep the spending deficit much lower as well. If that's what you really care about.
There’s ALWAYS going to be corruption when $$$ is involved but it’s so much less on the Democratic side. MAGAts have led to the ruin of an entire party. Please vote for Joe. He’s been the strongest voice for every day Americans.
@@bree77749 I care about Free Markets, Laissez-faire, corruption and strong action against Russian/Chinese aggression anywhere in our world. The economy will take care of itself if government keeps its mitts out of the pie. Will I make a good Democrat? heh
@@Peter_Wendt Only a party rife with corruption would have offered up the likes of Biden/Clintons or the Bush/Trump absurdities.. Somewhere there are people, good educated folks who love the Constitution and they are forming a new party. Lets give it a working name, say "The B team". I have a message for all the corrupt manipulating fat cats who work with socmed & other elements to control the minds of USAmericans... Change the corrupt can't live with is coming. Youre out numbered.
As horrified as I was and still am that R v W was overturned I couldn't help but notice how quiet the celebration seemed to be. Had that happened in the 80's there would have been full on block party parades. Republicans are always late to their own parties; the dj already packed it up before they arrive.
"It is likely that the majority of Arizonans want abortion" THAT'S CALLED DEMOCRACY CHARLIE. How long before people start waking up to the idea that "freedom" does not mean "democracy" and that the right has always used "freedom" as the distraction while they strip away "democracy"
It's interesting that CK says "in cases that their daughter gets pregnant" (15:52). Even in his scenario where people are in favor of abortion, it's from the perspective of a father lol.
@@thecrimsoncure8201Like an over-inflated baloon! And sadly, even with all that cranial space, he was born with a brain the size of a walnut surrounded by a pocket of helium. And all it's really capable of doing, is repeating billionaire, right wing talking points like a cockatoo.
He has stuck a bike pump up his ass and inflates it every now and then because he likes the feeling and thinks it makes him look smarter, but it just makes him look inbred.
The Easiest way to prevent Abortion is to prevent Pregnancies. You do that with Education and Contraception. Two other areas under attack currently. So the goal isn't helping women, but controlling them.
They know that, though. That’s why Fascist Kirk is saying what he said in that clip. It’s the Frank Luntz word-spinning; if they call it “heartbeat” even if it’s fake, people will get all weepy that babies are being “murdered”. If they just call it abortion, which is the termination of a pregnancy in legal terms, then they lose.
Ive dated 2 women that had to have abortions with premature babies because it came down to their life or tha baby and even then, the chance the baby survived was low anyway. So we would of lost double the life intended. Of of those women, their husband left them on the hospital bed alone while he went and married another woman THAT SAME DAY. So Republican arguments fall on deaf ears to me. Ive asked a woman to take plan b and it sucked, even as open as she was about it. Neither of us wanted kids yet and i wore a condom every time we made love after that and with every woman id been with after that. I know too many people that had kids by accident with women they werent spending their lives with and their lives ruined. Man and woman. Both putting themselves in a lose lose situation because they didnt communicate and didnt make good decisions. Im not monogamous and have yet to get anyone pregnant. But i also dont pursue dating that much. I wait out relationships till it feels right. I dont hook up. The saftey and planning is important to me as much as the woman im with. Im not looking to breed for the sake of it. I dont think children are the end all be all to life. Thats the blinders parents put on to make kids as a whole sound like gods on earth, when those same parents that think theyre good can raise a bad citizen as much as someone they think is not worthy of children. Parental delusional ego should be a disorder in my opinion. Some parents just dont care about their kids and do nothing for them and still claim "their the best thing to ever happen to me". The same pro lifers that keep women down, would abandon that baby as soon as their born. Figuratively and literally. When abortian was largely banned in the past, dumpster babies were a thing. During the depression people sold their babies to make ends meet. So?
It's more about turning women into sentient cattle, but it also screws over everyone else involved. It's like when teachers say no recess because Billy keeps spitting in people's hair.
A heartbeat is NOT an indicator of anything. The cells which make up the heart are designed to spontaneously contract and relax. They start to do this LONG before the heart is fully formed. It’s like saying passing a sight test means when cells can detect light. The cells of the eyes are designed right from the start to detect light, it doesn’t mean a foetus can see
It might have taken you all 100 years, shabibo, but you've almost solved the problem nobody needs with solutions that nobody really wants. Good work! What a guy.
Ben will demand women who terminate a pregnancy be prosecuted but cries and cries and cries his crocodile tears when Israel is called to task at the Hague for bombing babies on incubators. It's not about 'saving lives.' It's hatred of women & patriarchal control over women's bodies being used as a wedge issue by fanatics and cynical grifters. And most of those same fanatics are gleeful, eager supporters of the massacres of babies & children in Gaza and the West Bank.
@@robynpress9534 He's a warmonger, he doesn't even care about the life of the living. He's just such a massive nerd for the rules he wants to enforce other religions rules on people aswell!
2:30 so when he talks about a more gradual approach to legislation, he's referring to that saying that if you put a frog in boiling water, it will thrash about and such, but if you slowly raise it to a boil with the frog inside, it doesn't complain and just dies. Note how in both cases, the frog dies, just takes longer in the gradual approach. It is not, oh maybe this decision isn't popular (because it is extremist and quite dangerous), it's we need to make the changes slow enough so we get what we want, just that people won't notice.
I always wonder about that, with Shapiro and that idiot Pool, who failed out of middle school. Even aside from their content, both of them have voices that sound like badly maintained machines.
“Fetal heartbeat” laws are horribly misleading and misnamed. It’s not a heartbeat, nor is it even a fetus. 6 wks is an embryo. “If you have to lie to defend ‘your truth,’ then it was never true to begin with.” -Aron Ra
Men telling women what to do pisses me off to no end. I cant even believe we are having this conversation in 2024. My mothers friend laid on the couch as my mom took care of her and her 5 kids after a botched abortion she didnt tell me until I was 18 and said it was my ðuty to vote.
Republicans don't seem to understand that the abortion issue isn't only about abortion. It's about what else voters know can be taken away. People are voting to support abortion in order to protect *other* things by proxy.
He really said "hey guys, lets not be blatant, we need to sneak around" If you feel the need to hide and sneak around, you know you're in the wrong. If he thought he was right he would be proud of it not sneaking and hiding.
"You gotta make sure the laws fit with the will of the people" - Charlie Kirk That's what we've been saying Chuck! So what's good with universal healthcare?
Abortion is the entire reason why I, a man, am alive today. My mother's first pregnancy was an ectopic pregnancy, which was aborted. It was caught just in time, and had that ectopic pregnancy not been aborted, my mother would have either died or been rendered infertile. My mom's abortion was the real pro-life choice in her case. One abortion enabled my life, and the lives of my brothers, while also saving hers.
Here is the best idea to go against the Republican Party: force them to own up to their rhetoric and action. They may try to retract and pivot, but tell them there are too many receipts!
If you are doing something popular and good, that expands rights and people’s ability to pursue happiness, they tend not to mind if you do it all at once. It’s only when you are going backwards, stripping away rights, that you need to do it “gradually” in order to be successful.
An actual heart doesnt exist until 17 to 20 weeks of pregnancy. I believe 16 weeks is the first trimester which is when something like 95% of all abortions happen. Before a heartbeat, before a brain. You cant have a person if you dont have a brain even. We live in our brains. Our conciousness. That gives us personhood. If a mass of cells has never had a conciousness, it isnt a person. Theres no one to harm or murder. Theres no one to feel and receive pain. Theres no one deprived of life or the pursuit of happiness. Roe v wade put abortion at viability which is pretty late in term iirc. These heartbeat bills essentially just ban abortion altogether because their definition of heartbeat means as soon as a woman has even recognized shes pregnant, that pulse is likely there. I cant imagine the horror women must feel if theyve missed their period. Now they have to figure out quick if theyre pregnant and what their legal options are under these laws. And under alabama its entirely illegal to get this crucial healthcare. An embryo is a person to them even if theyre frozen
Their problem seems to be a tough one: how to not let the unpopular abortion position ruin the tax cuts and dismantling of the Federal Government they so desperately crave.
Outlawing abortion doesn’t reduce abortion or “save lives”, it just makes abortion far more dangerous.
I mean, it probably does both. There are definitely southern girls having children they don't can't and can't support right now edit: don't want***
Republicans don't care.
@jugo1944 Why would you use that qualfier?
Only if it's not enforced properly.
@@user-gk9lg5sp4yYes, I was thinking the same.
The "nobody cares about your feelings" crowd suddenly is panicking about the feelings of voters.
The Karen party has always been the feelings party. Just ask the Dixie Chicks. Bunch of whiny bitches
And they wish we didn’t have free will.
All sentient creatures actions are generated by "feelings" fundamentally. Thats how all brains work and are made....even AI has positive and negative reinforcement structures required for its creation and function...which it will interpret as feelings. Feelings are necessary and are not necessarily irrational. They are expedient and a form of instinctual memory of past "facts" from ancestors who survived when satisfying those feelings. There are no Vulcans nor will there ever be a useful sentient machine without feelings. Without feelings, there would be no e-motivation to even discover facts. Those who "claim" they base their actions on facts and not feelings are just lying and hiding some (pretty bad) feelings towards others.
They think they sympathy and empathy are the only feelings.
Facts don't care about conservative feelings.
They didn't just catch the car, Republicans are now caught up in the bumper and getting dragged around town by it.
With locked jaws.
With locked jaws.
The dog caught the car, and his inner voice is saying, "It hurts when I bite the bumper, maybe I'll try the tires instead".
sometimes you get the bear.
sometimes the bear gets you
Actually republicans tied themselves to the hitch and are driving themselves through town ...
and they wont stop
The problem is that they believed that they represented the majority on this issue and like the rest of the issues their ideology represents the extremist minority.
to a thief, everyman steals.
if they actually believed they represented the majority, they wouldn't be so desperate to suppress votes. they know their positions are unpopular, but they believe that only they should have a say.
Even when they realise they're a minority they don't think people that don't agree with them deserve rights!
"When we can't come up with decent policy, we attack anybody who's not r1ch or p0werful." - Rs.
@@nondescriptcat5620
They believe that democrats are cheating. Like dead people voting, illegals and the millions and millions of mail in ballots.
It would be amazing if Trump loses Florida simply because abortion rights and weed legalization are on the ballot this November.
I kind of think that's going to happen
What would be even more amazing is if politicians actually created policy based on the will of their constituents, but that’s never going to happen.
We all need to vote but I don't think its impossible that Biden wins all the states he previously did plus Ohio and Florida.
@@crispyblack8779 If we kick them hard enough at the polls they may be forced to rethink their methods or maybe we could vote them into insignificance.
@@nakfoor1846I agree with that 👍 I've been saying the same thing
GOP: “Small government. Except for your bedroom. Or religion. Or freedom to protest. Or science. Or, well, anything really. We are your rulers. Do as we say and get hung out to dry. We have a law to dispossess you. Just pick the subject. Love big government.” (Proceeds to lick a doorknob)
No government has any right to exist.
1000%
Small government for corporations unless they need a bailout or some subsidies, that's about it.
@@BlackRagNegationDo you propose to live without ANY government? Sounds like Ted Kaczynski.
@@brianmccollaum5489 🤪
Any time Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro get called out is a great day.
A great day would be a day where the Daily Weird has such low audience it becomes irrelevant, but I fear such a day is still far away in the future.
They both need a last trip to the vet💉 🙄
@@LemuraiIt would be for the greater good and it’s obvious that they’re really really suffering over this ~ 😂
Ad hominem I know, but whenever I see Charlie Kirk, the first thought in my mind is always, "Big head, tiny face!" I can't help it, the ratio is just so out of whack.
so...? every day is potentially great!
Not a single woman goes through the trials of carrying a child for 8 months then shrugs and says “you know what? changed my mind”
No kidding. And they keep shrieking this non-event to their brain dead bunch. smfh
@@jeanneganrude8549100% and the other argument is this myth that women use it as birth control when, ya know, birth control exists. But I’d be willing to go one step further and say ‘So what?’ So what if they do, it’s their body, it doesn’t belong to the Republican Party.
Exactly, by that point anyone who doesn’t want the baby would put it up for adoption. Even if they magically woke up from a coma pregnant at 8 months it’s safer to just deliver and put it up for adoption than to “abort” a full term baby.
This! This is the kind of cross examination we should all do with fear mongery arguments like that.
Like, what's the utility of waiting 8 1/2 months?? Why go through all of that? There is no logic.
But that's just it. It's pure feels, they want us to assume these women are trying to maximise the shock for entertainment or something. If you really try to rationalize the actions of that the far right implies, it's bats***t. Like, crackhead under the overpass level nonsense.
I swear, conservative "arguments" have gotten significantly dumber and more clickbait-y in recent election cycles. What was the goofiness of far right, AM radio hosts is now the mainline party.
And they wonder why we don't take them seriously.
@@jeanneganrude8549
Most conservatives have a feeble grasp at reality, let alone biology. They believe they came from a mud pie having sex with its rib. People 🤷🤷🤡
It's about control, they do not give a crap about babies.
It's not only about control, it is about a deep seated hatred of women. Because what they believe is that women enjoy being able to get rid of their babies. They actually seem to think that women just wait til 7 or 8 months just for the fun of it. I don't see this being called out nearly enough.
Yep - tell them that they should prevent abortions by expanding access to contraception, and watch them dance.
The babies are just a smokescreen and means to the end of their real goal of increasing the amount of slavery the country will tolerate. Most Americans aren't ready to face that there are more kinds of slavery than the chattel slavery that happened to the kidnapped Africans and their decendents. And do stuff like admit that their grandma's were literally owned as property by their husband's until the 1970s. And that the people trying to return to those bad old days are often explicitly supremacist, pro slavery, and segregationist in motivation.
They'll pretend though ... I've been in intense discussions about abortion and life and stuff. Some fervently believe it's murder. Now, I think it's because they've bought into Republican/Conservative talking points thought.
@@john.premoseTheir talking points are beyond ridiculous. No woman goes through the majority of her pregnancy just to change her mind in the last 3 months. I can’t believe they’re not ridiculed more often for these ludicrous claims ~
This isn’t about abortion. It’s about the woman’s place. Men are “supposed” to be in Leadership over women. It’s a religious thing. Why are they still dancing around this?
'cause women have the vote? well, for now, anyway ...
Support or opposition for abortion isn’t split on gender lines. Religious background, location and race (with minorities more likely to be pro life) are far better predictors. From Pew Research Center
Religion is the longest-running scam ever. Part of the propaganda in the bible is putting down women. That’s why the book of Mary(Jesus’ wife) was left out. There is no god, and Jesus couldn’t save his own butt, much less yours.
@@HkFinn83 also ideology
conservatives, and conservative men, especally OLD paedo men, want to kill it
take away the indoctrination by conservative media and you could almost guarantee it's a gender-line thing
old conservative men would then be for it and all alone, because no one vooluntarily gives up their rights and bodily autonomy without a con in the work
Because... they're cowards, no 2 ways about it. It's always been crappy excuses to disguise a horridly unpopular and authoritarian mindset that even they know is too vile to openly campaign for.
Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro are good enough reasons, to keep abortion safe and legal.
Charlie "That is my own sperm" Kirk and Ben "Booty hole waxed down" Shapiro.
They are poster boys for abortion.
Bingo! You win.
yes, if only their mothers had taken the option while they could have, eh?
I don't get it?
Your implying If their mothers had abortions they wouldn't be alive today?
I thought abortions weren't actually killing babies?
Could aborted fetuses have eventually been full grown human beings if not aborted?
This is news to me and makes me second guess myself on the moral implications of the issue.
Caring about life but the states with strictest abortion laws have highest child mortality
They won’t fund prenatal care because birth control is also available
@@fooohousieThey're going for birth control next, and still won't fund prenatal care. That would be socialism.
Claiming to care about life...
They're pro suffering, and you cannot convince me otherwise.
@@vxicepickxv
Yea, they want people to suffer if they don't make the exact choices they want or believe everyone should make.
dogshit outcomes for american public is always going to be the deathnail for the GOP.
every 10 years they need to rebrand as the old party gets everything it wants, the country turns on them to a point that they have no option but to change everything they can about themselves.
Bush was popular at the time. he was the only thing the GOP had to take on the Democratic brand of clinton. almost as soon as he got outa office, the entire brand of that GOP. was so toxic bush disappeared from public life as a disgraced president, the entire country falls in to a recession, there is a massive defict and the ME is blown to bits.
trump only continues this exact path. MAGA was the rebranding
I have a really new and innovative policy for the GOP.
If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one.
They believe abortion is a murder. In murder's case it's not enough to not be a murderer yourself, you gotta make it illegal for everyone.
10000000%
I don't believe in their moral character enough to expect them not to get an abortion if they needed one.
@@OneEyeShadow Touche
Everyone "believes" in it. 🙄
I honestly think that the less someone knows about abortion, the more pro-life they are. Pro-lifers adopt an absolutist view on human morality in this one case and this one case only. Murder is wrong ALWAYS when it's against a fetus, but they don't apply that absolutist view to everything because you CAN'T! Murder is NOT always wrong, and 99.999% of conservatives agree that murder in self-defense is justified. It's not (always) the case that they just hate women. Most pro-lifers I know just genuinely have not THOUGHT that deeply about *why* it is that abortion has been legal for so long. It. Is. NECESSARY.
No one wants an abortion we're just smart enough to realize that abortion is an necessary thing sometimes and it's a very personal decision
EXACTLY!! Say it louder. No one WANTS it but sometimes it is the only option.
Funny also how shamelessly they utilized "my body, my choice" language when it came to vaccines. It's my personal choice, even when it affects other people! But when it's a personal choice that DOESN'T affect other people, it's suddenly their business somehow
Republicans are against freedom
Yeah ive been told abortions hurt a lot.
You should look up the x case in Ireland and also Savita who died in hospital after refusal of a necessary abortion, and a woman who was kept on life support while decomposing due to a fetus with a heartbeat against the wishes of her husband and existing children. Where the law supersedes healthcare, where it goes is macabre and endangering to women.
Wow. Just wow. Unbelievable that the husband had no say.
@@jeanneganrude8549 the husband and her parents had to go to court for permission to let her go, she was already dead and her body was decomposing. The fetus was unviable, but doctors had to allow it to continue or they risked jail themselves due to the heartbeat. It was honestly so incredibly disturbing. In court doctors said they tried to research the effect of a decaying body on a fetus but they literally couldn’t find a similar case to get medical information anywhere in the world. It was horrific.
Wow I just looked up the one about the dead woman being forced to keep the baby alive. That is terrifying!
The most disgusting thing about the abortion issue is that the doctor is punished, anyone helping the woman is punished and of course the woman but, no men are held accountable for their role. Where is the punishment for the men?
"Should we go extreme quickly or try to sneak up on everyone? That's the important question here. Obviously, I'm not suggesting that we don't go extreme. We're conservatives. We must go EXTREME."
They don’t care about life only about birth. Once the baby is born to hell with it.
It is morally right to respect the dignity and bodily autonomy of pregnant people.
Embryos, zygotes, and fetuses are NOT babies or children.
The life of the pregnant person is MORE important than the life of an embryo, zygote, or fetus.
Every time.
I used to be "pro-life". Then my wife got pregnant, and I saw how incredibly lucky we were to have a healthy baby, and how easy it is for things to go south at every stage of pregnancy. Pregnancy is stressful and delicate, and it's definitely not for everyone. Now I'm strongly pro-choice.
Pro-life for fetuses and nobody else
Yes, they are babies.
@@mrabon8 nope, you can put an embryo in a freezer for years and it will stay alive. You can NOT put a baby in a freezer. Ignorance is the biggest danger to real babies.
Even my Republican boomer mom is pro choice. Because she knew people growing up that had DIY abortions.
yep, bad pills, coat hangers and trashcans in alleyways
life under Reagan
I've never met a smart person that was anti-choice, nor have i ever heard an argument against abortion that was based on logic or for the good of society as a whole.
You are fortunate not to have met many authoritarian psychopaths in that case
True. Unfortunately true.
True. Because there isn’t any (on both counts)
Then you haven't met many people from the anti abortion crowd. I knew a woman with a doctorate in library sciences and a degree in social work that was anti abortion.
@@redrick8900 Bet you she didn't have a good argument.
The power of an echo camber. Love how they think they are representing a majority only to find out they’re wrong.
The anti-choice crowd has never, ever held a positive poll position with the majority of women let alone all Americans on THEIR issue. The only reason they force this sort of legal violence on women is because of religion.
"The heartbeat restriction is significantly more popular than a full ban."
This is political spin that actually translates to "The heartbeat restriction is significantly less incredibly unpopular than a full ban, but is still exceptionally unpopular."
Ben out here saying "We need to use a slippery slope to pass this"
When will these guys learn that 90 percent of the country didn't want roe v wade gone. Since it's gone its on them
Christopher... they know that. They don't care. They are authoritarian religious fascists who want to impose themselves on everyone else. And they are totally open about their fantasies of using violence to do it. "Project 2025"
Because they can’t hide their Fascism and theocratic tendencies. Their position on women’s repro rights is just one of the many pillars of their extremely low opinion they have of the vast majority of Americans. These guys would without exaggeration rather just have the male portion of the 1% doing all the property owning, voting, making any kind of decisions, etc. They are enemies of democracy and liberty, and lie about wanting to protect thise as much or more than they lie about their anti-choicism being about “saving livbbs”.
Make it legal, if your State has not done it already, by the November election.
If abortion bans pass and you are not rich enough to get emergency care I strongly recommend not having children if you can help it
Good advice. However I fear that these laws are not targeting the people that can make those decisions but rather those that can't.
I'm thinking mostly of the deeply religious communities where woman are not respected.
Republicans: too few white women are giving birth!
Also Republicans: no healthcare or childcare unless you're rich!
@@JasonAtlasyep they want human life to be cheap and short- makes for much more desperate and malleable workers
@@LGrianexactly
Durrrrrrr
3:03 "unborn kids". There's literally no such thing. This is the type of misleading and subtly subversive rhetoric that confuses the issue further for many people.
Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate
Yes, you might as well say unpainted paintings as in things that don’t exist
"Unborn old people"
Looool yeah.
That remark made me 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Where the hell is my unearned money?! 😂
His phrasing is so telling. "They want abortion as an option in case their daughter get pregnant." He cannot conceive of a woman as a fully mature, independent, responsible person getting an abortion because it's what that person wants. The idea of a woman seeking an abortion starts and ends with a child whose parents want her to have one. This is so revealing it's making me crazy and I could seriously think about just that sentence forever but I won't lol.
Will be a huge spike in 20 odd years time of crime. Why? Abandoned kids.
If we fix this in the next administration we can have that spike for just a year or so 20 years from now.
Women and their doctors need the right to decide medical practice.
Politicians do not have the knowledge or right to make those decisions.
If republicans believe that “abortion is murder” then they are literally saying “murder is a states right issue”
And I find this genuinely amazing. Biggest wow ever.
They don't have the courage of their convictions.
Isn't murder... nearly always? A states rights issue?
States set the standard for what rises to murder (vs manslaughter), states set the levels of murder (i.e. first degree), states determine the punishment for each degree (choosing or not to adhere to the federal sentencing guidelines, with the exception of federal minimums), and states ultimately imprison or otherwise punish the convicted.
The only real exceptions are murder that take place in DC, go across state lines, international, etc.
@@tim3172 The argument is that federal murder laws are in line with state laws and state laws all hold murder to be a crime. With abortion law what is murder in one state would not be in another state, or federally.
It is incredible that their strongly, passionately held views about the sanctity of ALL life are chucked away so quickly when they see it’s a vote loser.
That says everything you need to know about these people
Yes, the states' rights argument has always been specious. To start with, states don't have rights in the way people usually imagine them. They have powers. If you think states have rights under the Constitution, you need to read more carefully. Quite aside from that, though, no one should imagine that people calling abortion "murdering babies" for fifty years are going to settle for it being "legal in Jersey". That defies common sense.
And I thought the Handmaid's tale couldn't really happen in real life. It's now mainstream in the states to say abortion is murder
Every policy in the Handmaid's Tale is a real, contemporary, ongoing extant policy.
It would be brutally overthrown
I have met people who would be delighted if the Handmaid's Tale came true all throughout my life.
@@Peter_Wendt then you need to meet better people, they're clearly below you
imagine wanting to sacrifice your own autonomy and that of your immediate family because a lunatic on TV said you should agree with them
So Chuckie is outright saying that it doesn't matter what the majority wants - he believes he knows better and that GOP should determine the law.
He says it quickly. Therefore, he's correct.
"Normal people think we're insane." - CK
Rare moment of self-awareness.
wow, he's actually right about something?
17:53 Charlie Kirk coming to deliver the brilliant realization that if you do things people hate, people will hate you
They should just go all in and campaign on cutting social security and medicare.
I would love that, to be honest. If the gop tried to eliminate ss or medicare/medicaid, they will REALLY find out what "catching the car" means, and I will so be here for it with my popcorn.
They should be made to wear shock collars, hooked up to a lie detector. At least when they are in committee, on the floor, fundraising, town halls, on TV.
Let's see what they really have in mind.
It would be extra sweet for the ex LIAR-IN-CHIEF to wear one in from if the cameras!!!
If trump gets in they will try it
@@randibgoodI like your thinking ~
And keeping women as property, and only allowing male landowners to vote...
It amazes me that Ben never even considers the idea of trying to improve the situation in peoples' lives, or make sure more people have healthcare or child care etc, which would actually reduce the number of abortions. No of course not, that would make too much sense for him. His only calculation is how can we "gradually" ban it over time, as if nobody will notice if you just do it really slowly. Smh
This is what I've been saying for a long time.
Ben gets paid money not to consider those options.
becuase he's an ayn rand shithead
''life is suffering, therefore everyone is defined by mein kampf; or in english, ''my stuggle''. to struggle is to survive, to survive is to live, those who do not suffer or struggle are empty and souless''
Same with inflation. These clowns will yap our ear off 24/7 about it and how people can't afford anything, but if you ask why aren't they campaigning for wage adjustments to compensate for that inflation, they hate it. They never have a solution.
They blame biden for the prices, yet I still have never heard what Trump is supposedly going to do differently about it. It's almost like his magical presence in and of itself would compell things to change.
It's never about the people, it's about latching on to the grievance of the time to distract from their own unpopular policies.
Push the ban as early as possible? So all men in chastity belts at all times? Or does he just mean any women can be put in jail under "suspicion to harm her fetus" regardless of if she is actually pregnant.
Let’s just ban the insane people from society 😊
If Republicans want to save lives, why not save the lives of those who are already living?
Republicans are trying, but democrats keep letting murderers out of prison, punishing law abiding citizens.
Also, Republicans need to reconsider their position on SNAP, WIC or subsidizing day care which could be funded by having the wealthy contribute to increase taxes but the revenue will provide a better standard of life for those who are working multiple jobs to afford basic needs for families.
@@maryscott-ez2xeAnd they’ll NEVER agree to that UNTIL we make them.
😂😂😂😂 They can't get through their heads that investing in The American People is not expensive. That's a fact. Vote blue in Roevember!💙
Too hard. Too expensive.
I'm 70 and a life-long FORMER republican. Cripes where do a turn now. I just want an honest government that wants to pay its bills and a gov free of corruption. Thats all
Economy consistently does better and is more stable under democratic presidents and they keep the spending deficit much lower as well. If that's what you really care about.
There’s ALWAYS going to be corruption when $$$ is involved but it’s so much less on the Democratic side. MAGAts have led to the ruin of an entire party. Please vote for Joe. He’s been the strongest voice for every day Americans.
@@bree77749 I care about Free Markets, Laissez-faire, corruption and strong action against Russian/Chinese aggression anywhere in our world. The economy will take care of itself if government keeps its mitts out of the pie. Will I make a good Democrat? heh
Welcome to the Democratic Party.
@@Peter_Wendt Only a party rife with corruption would have offered up the likes of Biden/Clintons or the Bush/Trump absurdities.. Somewhere there are people, good educated folks who love the Constitution and they are forming a new party. Lets give it a working name, say "The B team". I have a message for all the corrupt manipulating fat cats who work with socmed & other elements to control the minds of USAmericans... Change the corrupt can't live with is coming. Youre out numbered.
As horrified as I was and still am that R v W was overturned I couldn't help but notice how quiet the celebration seemed to be. Had that happened in the 80's there would have been full on block party parades. Republicans are always late to their own parties; the dj already packed it up before they arrive.
😂😂😂 they’re suddenly embarrassed by their (temporary) win~
"It is likely that the majority of Arizonans want abortion" THAT'S CALLED DEMOCRACY CHARLIE. How long before people start waking up to the idea that "freedom" does not mean "democracy" and that the right has always used "freedom" as the distraction while they strip away "democracy"
It's interesting that CK says "in cases that their daughter gets pregnant" (15:52). Even in his scenario where people are in favor of abortion, it's from the perspective of a father lol.
"Every life saved is a life saved" mean while flatten Gaza and Iraq 😅 so pro-life
You failed to realize they only care about WHITE life
also highest child mortality in the red states, and the ones with the most restrictions
they are just pro-death
so confused how can an unborn kid die??
😂😂😂 the douchebag thought he could just slip that one in.
Let us talk with two tongues - Ben S.
Each of them forked
A "gradualist approach," i.e., keeping up the charade that this was ever about states' rights.
Beware of adults with an imaginary friend.
That was real mean of y'all to photoshop Chuckies face so smol on the thumbnail for this vid. Oh; wait, that's just what he actually looks like! 😂
😂😂😂😂 I still say his head is really big.
@@thecrimsoncure8201Like an over-inflated baloon! And sadly, even with all that cranial space, he was born with a brain the size of a walnut surrounded by a pocket of helium. And all it's really capable of doing, is repeating billionaire, right wing talking points like a cockatoo.
If anybody is responsible for overturning Roe its Mitch McConnel
I heard DJT take full responsibility for this. He said, "I did this. I made it happen". Remember that in November.
I love how these “morally” upright goons will advocate for lying and obfuscating to get what they want.
My God Charlie Kirk has a huge head. It looks like a huge canned ham. Does it just continuously keep growing?
I think this face shrinks more and more towards the center of his head
@@lucascel5827 that could be it
It's the only way to store all of Dave Rubins high level ideas
He has stuck a bike pump up his ass and inflates it every now and then because he likes the feeling and thinks it makes him look smarter, but it just makes him look inbred.
Oh, don’t ya know … it’s his huge brain growing daily by his ever so intelligent podcasts 😂
Shapiro doesn't even care about his own kids. Lol
Hahahaha 😂😂😂
His kids ? We have confirmation on that ?
Plus he's Jewish. There is nothing in that religion that prohibits it.
@@killerbobaYeah. He gives off major incel vibes.
@@killerbobait’s his wife’s boyfriend’s kids
Religion has far too much influence in this country. It should not be able to move the needle so easily.
It seems to me it's not really religion. It's people using religion as a last gasp of justification for indefensible desires.
@@xuxuang8574 so it's still religion
tha'ts literally what it was invented for!
@@knuckles543bingo!
It's way past time that the churches got taxed. Let them contribute something for a change.
@@knuckles543 Religion is more like a tool. It's like blaming cars for car deaths even though it really depends on who's behind the wheel.
“The unborn will die”…. Wait what?
Worried more about first semester fetus than kids/grownups being shot by guns?
The Easiest way to prevent Abortion is to prevent Pregnancies. You do that with Education and Contraception.
Two other areas under attack currently. So the goal isn't helping women, but controlling them.
Control and punishment
Charlie Kirk, I think, is just someone's Mii has been let off it's leash somehow.
Heartbeat bills are misnamed since it isn’t even a heartbeat at the time.
Exactly.
They know that, though. That’s why Fascist Kirk is saying what he said in that clip. It’s the Frank Luntz word-spinning; if they call it “heartbeat” even if it’s fake, people will get all weepy that babies are being “murdered”. If they just call it abortion, which is the termination of a pregnancy in legal terms, then they lose.
Ive dated 2 women that had to have abortions with premature babies because it came down to their life or tha baby and even then, the chance the baby survived was low anyway. So we would of lost double the life intended. Of of those women, their husband left them on the hospital bed alone while he went and married another woman THAT SAME DAY. So Republican arguments fall on deaf ears to me. Ive asked a woman to take plan b and it sucked, even as open as she was about it. Neither of us wanted kids yet and i wore a condom every time we made love after that and with every woman id been with after that. I know too many people that had kids by accident with women they werent spending their lives with and their lives ruined. Man and woman. Both putting themselves in a lose lose situation because they didnt communicate and didnt make good decisions. Im not monogamous and have yet to get anyone pregnant. But i also dont pursue dating that much. I wait out relationships till it feels right. I dont hook up. The saftey and planning is important to me as much as the woman im with. Im not looking to breed for the sake of it. I dont think children are the end all be all to life. Thats the blinders parents put on to make kids as a whole sound like gods on earth, when those same parents that think theyre good can raise a bad citizen as much as someone they think is not worthy of children. Parental delusional ego should be a disorder in my opinion. Some parents just dont care about their kids and do nothing for them and still claim "their the best thing to ever happen to me". The same pro lifers that keep women down, would abandon that baby as soon as their born. Figuratively and literally. When abortian was largely banned in the past, dumpster babies were a thing. During the depression people sold their babies to make ends meet. So?
I’m going to agree with you despite all of your horrible spelling and word choice mistakes.
It's more about turning women into sentient cattle, but it also screws over everyone else involved. It's like when teachers say no recess because Billy keeps spitting in people's hair.
In any normal country, Ben Shapiro would have been taken into protective mental health custody for his, and our protection by now.
USA lets the insane terrorize people
In a normal country he'd be a moderately successful self deprecating comedian.
in any normal country, ben shapiro would still be a junior appliance sales rep at a clearance warehouse.
@@subcitizen2012I don’t think he even HAS a sense of humor ~
In a healthy country he'd be taken into a field.
a gradual approach to fascism
So they're really still going to play in our faces, pretending they give a shit about kid's?
The brain drain is also real. Doctors arent going to those states anymore and/or leaving in droves 🤷
A heartbeat is NOT an indicator of anything. The cells which make up the heart are designed to spontaneously contract and relax. They start to do this LONG before the heart is fully formed. It’s like saying passing a sight test means when cells can detect light. The cells of the eyes are designed right from the start to detect light, it doesn’t mean a foetus can see
It might have taken you all 100 years, shabibo, but you've almost solved the problem nobody needs with solutions that nobody really wants. Good work! What a guy.
why is ben shapiro talking about saving lives?
Because he count a fetus as "people".
Silly but true.
@@robynpress9534the question is then:
is ben shapiro the equivalent of a fetus?
@@Winston-lf7sb approximately, yes. ;)
Ben will demand women who terminate a pregnancy be prosecuted but cries and cries and cries his crocodile tears when Israel is called to task at the Hague for bombing babies on incubators. It's not about 'saving lives.' It's hatred of women & patriarchal control over women's bodies being used as a wedge issue by fanatics and cynical grifters. And most of those same fanatics are gleeful, eager supporters of the massacres of babies & children in Gaza and the West Bank.
@@robynpress9534 He's a warmonger, he doesn't even care about the life of the living. He's just such a massive nerd for the rules he wants to enforce other religions rules on people aswell!
2:30 so when he talks about a more gradual approach to legislation, he's referring to that saying that if you put a frog in boiling water, it will thrash about and such, but if you slowly raise it to a boil with the frog inside, it doesn't complain and just dies. Note how in both cases, the frog dies, just takes longer in the gradual approach. It is not, oh maybe this decision isn't popular (because it is extremist and quite dangerous), it's we need to make the changes slow enough so we get what we want, just that people won't notice.
It's sonically unpleasant listening to the sound of Ben Shapiro's voice. How does he have a following?
also his eyebrows are massively distracting, they look so unnatural.
He’s a Hollywood nepo baby
@@mkvenner2 who failed even with nepotism backing him up, he's that incompetent.
Between his annoying nasally voice and those eyebrows … I can only watch him in short clips. His followers must have immunity 😂
I always wonder about that, with Shapiro and that idiot Pool, who failed out of middle school. Even aside from their content, both of them have voices that sound like badly maintained machines.
You’kids’ are too young to compare. The country’s as chaotic now as it was pre roe. Poked a hornet test. Having fun? No? Good.
Shaphiro, talking like "a chipmunk on crack"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How can an unborn person die? How can one die if they've never been born?
"Protecting life", not the life of the mother though right?
I hate Benny Shaps.
As soon as the GOP has the majority in the house and the Senate they will go:" State's rights? My A$$"
He thinks waiting a mere 2 years between reductions in the number of weeks is incrementalist⁉️
Kids that GOP would starve
Stop blaming older people!! I’m 70 and have always been pro-abortion!!
By deceit and suberterfuge they will take & deny
Party of giant government
“Fetal heartbeat” laws are horribly misleading and misnamed. It’s not a heartbeat, nor is it even a fetus. 6 wks is an embryo.
“If you have to lie to defend ‘your truth,’ then it was never true to begin with.” -Aron Ra
These people truly are slow. They continue to lose election after election because of this viewpoint and can't seem to figure out why.
What hes actually saying is, each life saved is either a worker (billionaires dont do actual work) or cannon fodder for the next war
Yep new humans are just blocks of clay to be molded. Oh, the possibilities!
@@WhiskerDooz They only need them til their backs wear out. After that they are trashed.
@Kerry-uo6og "welcome to the churn"
@@WhiskerDooz I've lived here for years..
@@Kerry-uo6og lol yeah and?
Men telling women what to do pisses me off to no end. I cant even believe we are having this conversation in 2024. My mothers friend laid on the couch as my mom took care of her and her 5 kids after a botched abortion she didnt tell me until I was 18 and said it was my ðuty to vote.
Pretending a foetus is a person doesn't change the fact a fetus is an organ.
The amazing thing is, 10's of millions of Americans still vote Republican. It makes you wonder about that country.
Culture war distraction is very effective.
Republicans don't seem to understand that the abortion issue isn't only about abortion.
It's about what else voters know can be taken away. People are voting to support abortion in order to protect *other* things by proxy.
Bennie doesn't GAF about the lives of children
He really said "hey guys, lets not be blatant, we need to sneak around"
If you feel the need to hide and sneak around, you know you're in the wrong. If he thought he was right he would be proud of it not sneaking and hiding.
"You gotta make sure the laws fit with the will of the people" - Charlie Kirk
That's what we've been saying Chuck! So what's good with universal healthcare?
That was obviously a freebie to anyone not 100% in the club. And means NOTHING.
If one make a bed of thorns, don’t expect a good night’s sleep.
Did Charlie say ‘a vast madority of Americans’?
12:01
Just bc you can hear my heartbeat in my wrist, doesn't mean that's where my heart is!!
It's a pausating vein....
Republican flow chart:
Is what I am doing legal?
Yes: Obey the law.
No: God told me to.
Abortion is the entire reason why I, a man, am alive today. My mother's first pregnancy was an ectopic pregnancy, which was aborted. It was caught just in time, and had that ectopic pregnancy not been aborted, my mother would have either died or been rendered infertile. My mom's abortion was the real pro-life choice in her case. One abortion enabled my life, and the lives of my brothers, while also saving hers.
Here is the best idea to go against the Republican Party: force them to own up to their rhetoric and action. They may try to retract and pivot, but tell them there are too many receipts!
Sneak in your policy instead of standing up an admit your goal.. what the f
If you are doing something popular and good, that expands rights and people’s ability to pursue happiness, they tend not to mind if you do it all at once. It’s only when you are going backwards, stripping away rights, that you need to do it “gradually” in order to be successful.
An actual heart doesnt exist until 17 to 20 weeks of pregnancy.
I believe 16 weeks is the first trimester which is when something like 95% of all abortions happen. Before a heartbeat, before a brain. You cant have a person if you dont have a brain even. We live in our brains. Our conciousness. That gives us personhood.
If a mass of cells has never had a conciousness, it isnt a person. Theres no one to harm or murder. Theres no one to feel and receive pain. Theres no one deprived of life or the pursuit of happiness.
Roe v wade put abortion at viability which is pretty late in term iirc.
These heartbeat bills essentially just ban abortion altogether because their definition of heartbeat means as soon as a woman has even recognized shes pregnant, that pulse is likely there.
I cant imagine the horror women must feel if theyve missed their period. Now they have to figure out quick if theyre pregnant and what their legal options are under these laws.
And under alabama its entirely illegal to get this crucial healthcare. An embryo is a person to them even if theyre frozen
Their problem seems to be a tough one: how to not let the unpopular abortion position ruin the tax cuts and dismantling of the Federal Government they so desperately crave.