Nothing Has Changed Since 1999
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Imagine being told in the year 2000 that 2024 would be exactly the same but with all the fun removed.
😭
2000 was actually quite grim. Office Space, The Office and The Matrix spoke of our dissatisfaction with that period. Pokemon, Phantom Menace, Bush, George Foreman grill craze.
@@beingsshepherd There's always bs going on but the difference now is all art has been trampled by corporations getting more powerful than ever with all this software tech and global connectivity, and we're perpetually force-fed the most distorted "news" and misinformation 24/7 and bombarded with ads at every turn, and all media and "content" as it's now called has been thoroughly reduced to the lowest possible common denominator, soon to be just churned out by algorithms with absolutely nothing of any value to speak to the soul, just endlessly regurgitated franchise trends and references. I mean, you yourself just mentioned The Matrix...imagine being able to actually go to a cinema next week to see a brand new movie even half as groundbreaking as The Matrix was in 1999. Just the idea of a new original film coming out that's anything like that fresh and awesome is becoming hard for most folk to even comprehend.
Everything you just listed there has perfect analogies in 2024. Unsurprisingly.
@@beingsshepherd It was misplaced boredom, and/or a sense of impending doom permeating all that.
The real change since 1999 is the overwhelming swallowing feeling of mistrust and fear.
Ok so youre telling that in times where newspapers and magazines were sth like internet people werent in fear or mistrust? They couldnt spread disinformation in papers? Or some people werent working as disinfomators?
mass immigration of different cultures disables initial culture from being able to organically grow.
@@millennialgamer8907 who are you talking to? tf
Everything Green Day sang about in American Idiot came true
@@GodMowsMyLawn That song was describing what was going on back then.
We’re stuck in 2008. The financial meltdown literally stopped all our lives in its tracks and NOTHING has progressed whatsoever except our ages and overdrafts.
I’ve thought about this a lot… for many years… weird
USA got a national debt of almost 35 000 billion dollar now. The yearly interest payment (for the tax payers) is now larger than the tax payers are paying for the military defense and the 800+ military bases world wide.
The american national debt to GDP ratio was around 50% in year 1999-2000. Now it's 130%? Or at least above 100%! It's insane. Insane.
There are many videos about this economic situation and these are not made up numbers.
No matter if Biden or Trump will win the election in nov 2024, the winner will have a huge national debt to take care of and I cannot see how the winner can reduce it.
USA looked very promising when Bill Clinton stepped off after his 8 years. Then USA spent crazy much money on wars and stuff. Was it worth it? Good question...
I know what you mean the 2008 fincal crisis never felt like it ended and then covid came and now here we are.
I came the same conclusion, 2008
I was thinking about this yesterday 😮
The best I can describe it, it's like a post-everything era. There aren't new trends in art, entertainment, society, etc, etc. It's all a meta deconstruction of everything from before. Chips release retro flavors. Bands release songs with specific decade influences. People pick "styles" of things from fashion to artwork and emulate it. There's no sincerity and everything is monetizable.
You put into words what I have been feeling but couldn't really describe.
Risk-aversion is all pervasive. Being bold is looked down on. Accountants run everything. Money really is evil.
@@Karibanu Accountants and Lawyers protect the interests of the evil tyrants, yes.
@@Karibanu And most of the boldness is political people trying to cancel others they disagree with. It's a bunch of angry old nannies smacking everyone on the hand with a switch.
I think clothing is the most blatant example of nothing has changed for the past 30 years. Everybody's still dressing up with sneakers, caps and tracksuits. What the hell is up with that ?
Oh, sure, there were some flames on our socks in the early 2000's, but that's about it. Fashion hasn't moved a bit, and any "new" trend that comes is just a remake of something that already existed, like flared pants or crop-tops.
The biggest difference to 10/20 years ago is that I no longer look at my phone as a magical device and more as a necessary evil.
Evil ? A tad dramatic maybe ?
@@christopherwhittaker2620 It's an expression. It just means it's bad for people and society to be forced to spend half our lives on devices and the internet...which it is.
I never liked phones then. I only have one now because I have no choice and it's not a smart phone either.
Yet your still staring into it nonetheless.
@@JDRED_Wallis and ?
The only difference between now and 1994 is today you can't talk about any show, at work, the day after you saw it, because you don’t know where anyone else is. Tim is two episodes ahead of you. Jane's watched it all. Carol's an episode behind, and Carl hasn’t started watching it yet. To talk about any show with anyone, you're either spoiling it for someone or it's getting spoiled for you.
That’s if anyone is at the office AT ALL these days big man
No major scientific breakthroughs being shared with the people.
True, true!
Not only is Carol an episode behind, you can't talk to Carol anyway because she thinks 5g is a wokist plot to increase the number of rainbows. Nothing has changed yet a lot of people have become unhinged from reality.
Makes it easy to spoil it for people though. I do enjoy that.
It’s like Fallout but instead of America being stuck in the 1950s, we’re actually stuck in the 2000s.
Yeah I was kinda thinking the same.
I was just thinking this and this comment came up. Wtf 😳 I literally just finished the first season 3 days ago
@@withmessagesofvirtueiamunt2380fallout is a game
America's wages might be stuck in the 1950s
I dont mind mentally being stuck in the early 2000s
I can remember how much freedom I had in the 90's...this is horrible...I want to go back.
We're as far away from 2000, as 2000 was from 1976...
I have a book from then called ‘The Book Of The Future: A Trip In Time To The Year 2000 And Beyond’. It’s hilarious.
yes
I remember in 2000, when listening to a retro show, that was playing songs from late 1970s to late 80s, and 1980-89 seemed like forever ago, but now we are much further away from 2000, and nothing feels different.
This is why it's odd that nobody thinks it weird that facebook is still a thing. Facebook is 20 years old this year. Imagine in 2004 thinking that something from 1984 was still hip and trendy.
@@transamination tbf no one i know uses Facebook.
As a 47 year old, I can honestly say nothing has really changed much since 2010. I think the early to mid 2000s were distinctly different, and had a 90s holdover. The 1990s was definitely more notable, and 1991 seemed like a different world to say 1997. But 2008, doesn't really feel much different to say 2014.
Absolutely agree with you
2010 is basically when the smartphone became ubiquitous to most people, giving the whole world access to the same information easily.
I've always felt that popular culture was in decline after about 1996.
'95 being a supernova period.
as a 31 year old, things have absolutely changed since 2010, fashion is very different (from hipsters and skinny jeans, to wider fits and early 00's nostalgia) and the political climate has completely changed too. Cost of living sucks now too, the way we interact with each other has changed because of the internet too.
Pre- to post-financial crisis, pre- to post-smartphone, social media, dating apps, "wokeness"... Wasn't 2008 literally the last year before a multitude of significant change?
I was a kid in the 70's. And 80's , this is hell compared to then.
Of course it is. You were young back then, and now you aren't. Things were new, fresh, ever changing and exciting because you didn't have decades of life experience under your belt.
That's how growing older works. Less and less "first time" things happen to you. Less excitement. Less surprise. More of "been there, done that, seen this already" stuff.
@@tacticsogreman yeah so many old people are so delusional and act like the world has changed so much and that times were literally "simpler" back then
@@Ahzuv2 how do you know? How old are you?
@@Berk-lf6ge 93
@@Ahzuv2 Certain things HAVE changed for the worse. Look up a 1950's service station. Back when companies actually cared about customers. Now go and try to find a full-service station, which used to be every 10 miles.
In College, I went to a talk by a scholar named Cass Sunstein. He said to us, in the year 2000, that the internet would affect democracy severely by making news very much an.individualized experience. It seems he was right.
The thing they really pulled off well, was convincing the masses that we live in a democracy, or that we should, or that anything that has come to pass was the result of democracy.
Meaning "they" were losing absolute control of "the narrative". Thus actually increasing democracy by having lots of independent individual thought, rather than a mass tv watching population being led by the nose by a highly concentrated media.
The internet was the worst invention of all time, and I don't exaggerate at all by saying that
90s absolutely was the last distinctive decade
2000s was
The 70's were.
I would say it was the naughties. There are many TV shows that are distinctly from the naughties, being edgier than those of the 90s, but that would go on to be outright banned about a decade later. It was also the decade that normalised much of the technology that we have today, such as most people having mobiles, home PCs, satellite or cable TV, dedicated internet connection and iPods. It was the decade where the world changed it's security protocols for air travel, the start of reality TV shows, the birth of social media and the "sharing" of content.
In many ways I preferred the 90s, but the naughties definitely happened and left its mark. Everything since then is just making these things slightly better whilst everything else gets slightly worse.
Definitely the 70s
not for young people.
I am so glad someone made a video about this feeling I have been having forever. It is like pop culture has become completely stuck.
Check out Mark Fisher and his book 'Ghosts of My Life' - it is about precisely this phenomenon; 'Culture today largely remains in the past, or as Fisher puts it, “cultural time has folded back on itself.”
The 2010s were the new game+ of the early 2000s, and the 2020s are the shameless remake of the early 2000s that no one asked for.
Even down to the impending economic doom! Accurate.
Getting older, I thought it was just me. All the 1900s decades were so different. In the 2000s…. Dashboard TVs in cars, computers in phones, and everybody hating everybody for everything is about the only difference over the last 25 years. My freshman yearbook from 78 versus senior yearbook 81 everybody look completely different. Four years versus four decades. You’re absolutely correct.!!!!
I am realizing now that on September 11th 2001 something died or it was the beginning of the end of something we still haven't gotten back.
Technically it was a build up of decades of getting involved in other parts of the world, we could smell the deployment. It was pretty higher than average. Every kid I knew had a parent that had enlisted.
I think what we lost was less about the terror attack and more about what we (US) did next. The whole world watched (including US citizens) as the US military was blatantly used to invade a country because it was convenient to corporations' interests. That happened as I was coming up and I remember how that striped any notion of pride or meaning from being an American and I think to a larger extent being a part of the "developed" world. The Ukraine war has been the only thing that has some what started to fill the void that left and to be honest, I'm not pleased with how little has been done for Ukrainians against an actual geopolitical liability.
Everything since then has seemed like an empty cash grab to fatten a small group of people's wallets. Movies and music have not evolved much because everyone needs private equity to win before everyone else, meaning no one takes risks anymore or a helluva lot less at at least. That's why you see so many sequels and remakes and the interest in tv series. Its the same with the housing and labor markets, private equity snapping up all the good investments and driving up prices and then private equity cuts jobs and does whatever it can to avoid domestic taxes and domestic labor markets. Oh pardon me, I mean CEOs and their boards do that FOR private equity. My bad. Meanwhile, new mega corps have popped up and all but advertised their influence on local governments and the federal government.
We live in an era where everything is measured by how much value it will bring the rich or top 1% class. They don't always get it right (look at technology in general and EVs as examples) but they do pretty well generally and it has had real negative effects for cultural advancement and social mobility. Worse yet, we see that nothing is off the table for corporations as far as their ability to influence the government goes, even so far as to use the world's best military to carry-out whatever objectives they deem worthwhile. It's not just an American phenomenon either, the entire world seems to recognize and accept this backslide into "everything is for sale" mentality. It's all hollow and the meaning is gone from so many things.
Agreed. That is the point in time where things plateaued. The 2000s were riding that plateau and the 2010s were the gradual decline of the "good old days"
@@ImprovisedExpletiveDevice One of the many awful things about 9/11 is that it hooked a generation on 24/7 news coverage, first Cable TV news and now social media. Were there corrupt corporations and horrific wars before 9/11? Obviously. But to kids growing up in the 90s, we didn't know or care about much of this. Some of this might be a good thing, but rather than inspiring us to change things, all the constant news coverage really does is inspire fear and division. In that sense, we still haven't recovered from the attack - if anything, we've gotten much worse.
While I agree about the remakes / sequels, etc. I don't think it has much to do with 9/11 or Iraq.
@@ImprovisedExpletiveDeviceI think you’re spot on, but if this is the general consensus wouldn’t society be…better?
I tink about 2010 is a more significant before and after. Smart phones becomming widespread and pretty much every single person start being chronically online.
I've been chronically online since 2000, and I agree that it was better before the riff-raff showed up!
2008 changed everything imo.
I've just revisited Reuben Dangoor's classic 'Being a Dickhead's Cool' and you could watch it today without noticing it's from 2010.
True. Social media changed things a lot (smartphones took off shortly after).
There was a period of about 10 years when the internet wasn't really 'social' for most people. Chat rooms and message boards weren't used by most people, they were considered 'nerdy'.
somewhere between 2010-2015 is where the shift happened
Nothing has changed except inflation, unemployment, and homelessness
And some of the cars that used to cost like 1000 bucks to whatever the fuck those idiotic kids wanna pay for (specifically 400k)
@upwaveflash8429 OH my God don't get me started! A car used to cost 3000 bucks, a good one. And now they're 30k!
Come to Denmark.. we'll take care of you and your needs 🇩🇰
Selling online is a lot less profitable than what it was in 1999. Online marketplaces like Ebay and Etsy have raised their fees considerably over the years and competition has stiffened. State sales tax is now collected, where it wasn't before. Postage costs have sky-rocketed. Thrift shops now price their items according to the going rate on Ebay, which makes it harder to find deals that you can flip. 1999 was the Golden Age for online resellers, today, it's pretty meager.
As someone alive in the 90’s I can assure you that people in the 90’s constantly complained about inflation, unemployment, and homelessness
I’ve thought about this a lot. Like people can say 1950s and you instantly have an imagine in your head. Same for 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. But if I say 2000s or 2010s you don’t really have a lot of culturally related concepts in your head.
i think part of the issue is a lot of the creativity has gone into the digital; the hardware, software, and apps evolve. when one looks at a house from 40-60 years ago, a lot of it is the same, the only thing is the t.v. is tiny, and people still make calls from phone booths. what's evolved is the online and virtual. our other crap is largely the same plastic cut-outs and wooden block houses, etc. in a lot of things it's just lowest common denominator - cheapest clothes and household products, dumbest movies and music, and disposable lifestyles.
There are collections of images from all sorts of time periods, and the more media people make about those periods, the more those periods will be exposed for further media and cemented in the minds of people; we don't really need much of that anymore because we, I think, simply aren't bored enough to look up every document pertaining to that era. There is also the matter of the time gap between something like the 50s and the 70s that is a bit less present in the gap between 2004 and 2024, but there still are several things people can recall about the 2000s: we have movies and music videos that evoke a 2000s energy to the viewer, videogames that are exploring 3D technology, walkmans, the MP3, the bigger presence of the television itself at home, the lessened presence of social media, and the list goes on.
I'm pretty sure people who grew up in the 50s felt the same when they reached the 70s because, like ours, their change was gradual and they lived those years day by day and minute after minute; when you look at an image of the 50s and an image of the 70s, you are looking at two frames of exact moments that could be 11 to 29 years apart without going through any single day between those -- of course you're going to feel the timeskip because it's outlined in an incredibly obvious way right in front of you. Another thing we can do is look at computers and their contents, and that's an unmistakeable change between now and 20 years ago, specially as someone who literally started using computers 20 years ago -- I can safely say a *lot* has changed on that alone.
That’s because it’s too recent. It takes a good 20 years for a decade to be more or less distinct
The Apollo 13 mission happened 25 years before the movie "Apollo 13." It's now been 29 years since "Apollo 13."
And man has still not returned to the moon and only a handful of guys who went there are still alive. 😢
Daang...
Holy fuck... 😲
Just another thing making me feel older. :(
Star Trek TNG last aired exactly 30 years ago. And nothing really happened since then. The time gap between TOS and TNG is about 25 years.
Thanks! I think about that a lot!
As an old fart who actually remembers living as a child in a house which had no electricity, Gas Lighting [as in light filiments powered by gas made from coal {a black rock-like substance which we set fire to for warmth}] no central heating, no double glazing, no bathroom and a toilet in a shed in the yard outside; when every shop closed at 5pm, the Banks at 3pm and nothing opened on Sundays...One or two things have changed a wee bit. What has definitely changed is the explosion of truly amazing creative genius I see almost every day; a shining example being; the creator of this channel. Brilliant content Michael Spicer, thank you.
You must be very old. Or else come from East Lancashire. The opposable thumb is a novelty there.
@@pjl8119 No I come from a place you clearly don't believe exists, it's called "Poverty" . If you ever have the opportunity to go there for any length of time I hope you have what it takes to survive. Toodle Pip
Well the video is about nothing much changing since the early 2000's which I mostly relate with. In 2002 I got a PC and was playing online games like Battlefield, I was downloading and listening to music but a song took 5 minutes instead of instant, I was messaging friends online on AOL, then MSN, we were all texting each other. I don't think much has changed at all, nothing huge anyway.
Normal childhood in the early 50s then! Most exciting event was the lifting of the sweet rationing - I did not know that Mars bars came as a whole bar - I had only a slice!
@@33BottlesOnMyDesksocial media is a HUGE change.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot. You ever have a situation where you moved in with a good friend or took a long trip in close quarters with them, and found they drove you crazy? Once you had to live with them, there was no novelty left, and all their little quirks that were once charming now drive you crazy. It’s sort of like that with what social media has done. All novelty has been removed, and every aspect of our interactions have been laid bare. Everyone is sick of everyone else’s crap, and all decisions in government and business are now based off emotions and perceived perceptions to virtue signal instead of based off measurable facts. This salts the earth where originality, innovation, and community grow. Sadly I think things are going to get significantly worse in the future.
Moving in with your Dream Girl is similar disappointment. and you are very correct about this.
The biggest difference (and NOT a good one) that I notice is as follows:
In 1999, people's day jobs were actually enough to pay the bills. In 2024, due to inflation, cost of living skyrockets while raises remain low, to the point of being insulting. To make ends meet, I have to supplement my income with a side-hustle, where most of my customer base is on (You guessed it!) the internet. I know I'm not the only one, because our idi0t politicians boast about a record number of new businesses, and try to spin it as a good thing.
To your point, I don't have time to watch TV, but wouldn't watch even if I did. Everything on TV, or in the theatre, has been a remake, sequel, or "soft reboot". Nothing has been original since before 1999.
Garth Marenghi's Darkplace exemplifies this phenomena.
Made in 2004, parodying and partially set in 1986 (an 18 year difference), it felt like a whole different culture and world.
We are now 20 years removed from 2004.
There hasn't been anywhere near enough cultural or stylistic change for a current TV show to parody 2004 in a similarly successful way.
Good point.
We Are Still One Track Lovers
Good point. I guess it's hard to capture the zetigest of the 2000s, besides the fashion of 'Y2K'.
“The pain shot through her,like a big bullet….”
@@me_fault one track lovers !
You nailed this point. “Each year is the same as the last”.
I was 15 in 2000. I distinctly remember the feeling that everything was shifting against genuine creative differences towards corporate enforced mass cultural standardization with a feeling of stigma if you didn’t buy into this sense of bland normalcy. I think everyone just wanted to play things safe at that point. Maybe a sense of cultural exhaustion and lack of inspiration. But I think the same has happened before throughout the 1700s and 1800s. The second half of the 20th century just experienced culture change much faster and more varied. Great video!
cultural exhaustion, great term ... and yes, the easiest thing for marketing heads to do is just recycle old thoughts/crap to the next gen
People changed drastically in this time span (1999 - 2024) more then ever in human history
Social media
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Yeah the culture and activities simply can't catch up to the insanely fast paced changes. That's why movie theatres and record stores etc are just like a novelty. The only place where things can change fast enough is online or at home which is where most people seem to be
@@svenjansen2134 Or 'Unsociable Media', there's nothing social about it, it's a solo activity, right?
You missed a trick Michael. "There's no underground anymore, there's no overground anymore. There's no wombling free anymore."
Wombles cant womble free anymore though... That has changed.
CCTV wont allow it
@@rinzaghi2057 True. And they would probably be prosecuted for vagrancy, nuisance and being a bit smelly.
😂😂👌 aaahh Good old uncle Bulgaria.
Because Woke.
@@christopherwhittaker2620 ... who got deported, because, the name.
Also in an internet culture, everything automatically "updates", so you don't get a strong sense of history with internet culture. You can' watch movies and tv shows from 2003, you can listen to music produced in 2003, and play games that came out in 2003. But you can't hang out in 2003 internet culture because its all been updated.
You can’t hang out in 1950’s Orleans either tho. Works for real life things too.
@@chris94kennedythat is his point, it simply doesn't resonate with you so you are getting frustrated. It makes eorfecr sense to me. It's the Internet and therefore there is no tangible documentation of the thriving culture that existed in the early days.
@@03056932Tangible documentation? You mean how sometimes I watch videos about the old internet days or go to the wayback machine?
What about the way back machine?
@@03056932 No... you've not understood. I know what their point is, I'm not confused by what they're saying. I was saying that if you can apply that principle to literally everything that has ever happened in the past, how is that a differentiating feature of anything, anywhere, at any time? It isn't. It's just a feature of life generally.
In other words their point was valid, but valid for 100% of things in the past you did but don't do any more. Since their comment was levelled directly at internet culture, seemed a pretty obvious thing to point out that this applies to everything, so it's a very loose take.
But not tryna argue. Have a good day.
I had a flip phone for many (TOO MANY) years. I used to call iPhone users "unhinged". I found it funny!
I hated flip phones when they came out. My phone before flip had a key lock and took up the same space as a flip, but didn't need to be flipped open/closed. The flip phones were often more fragile, too.
The post-modernists anticipated this with 'multiplicity', which is exactly what we've got: the zeitgeist is multiplicity with each subgroup developing their own histories and narratives that get decentered from mainstream awareness fast, if they ever get there.
We're quickly walking among greater fractionation and divergence of values and cultural references, which is a big difference from the past. This serves the purposes of the elite quite well as it provides the cover of darkness for their open actions, which takes them back to the past when there were genuine media blackouts and a complete dearth of information about elite actions; today, technical transparency is high, yet interest is minimised through the saturation of multiplicity resulting in many 'soft' layers of distraction and the conditioning of the self, which reinforces it.
Quite ironic considering what the internet used to be 20 years ago.
Huh?
Yes I’ve been thinking about this a lot. How culture has just ground to a halt, and you’ve articulated it perfectly
If you're not familiar, look into Mark Fisher. He has lectures on YT about his Hauntology theory. They are sooo good. He's a bit neurotic so you'll have to look past his obvious anxious demeanor but the material is solid. Also his book Capitalist Realism is amazing.
@@breandadavis3168 ooh anxiety how disquieting and human for you
@@timtrek Idk what you're getting at. I only say that because there are usually comments under his videos saying things along the lines of "I enjoy his books more than his lectures because hes too anxious for me" and I find that unfortunate because his lectures are really good, so I was kinda just wanting to encourage someone who's unfamiliar to look past it because it's worth it.
I personally don't mind his neuroticism (as I myself can relate). I think it's rather charming. Humanizing. Things dont have to be perfect and we tend to get fed perfe tly curated content, which makes us lose the ability to appreciate the things that aren't. Probably something Fisher would agree with.
The unfortunate side-effect of the world shrinking to become a global village is that there are no other villages to visit anymore.
@@Stadsjaap yes the internet ruined creativity. Everyone wants to copy whats on their phone and local music scenes dont exist now
This - I had a sudden realization about this situation a while ago, when watching an early season of House MD on Prime Video. The show is shot in 2004/2005 (was either season 1 or 2), but everything...well, looks and feel pretty much exactly like it does now. House's office looks like the offices I work in. He has a flatscreen computer monitor, maybe the chunkiness/bezels give it away as a bit old, but you would absolutely see a lot of these around still. Everyone pretty much dresses, talks and acts like people do now, maybe with the exception of some specific jokes/innuendos which would probably get you in front of a firing squad today. Yeah, the phones they use are less capable than what we have, but that's pretty much it, in a show that is from 20 years ago.
If you watch three movies or shows shot in 1975, 1985 and 1995, they are instantly recognizable as products of their decades - even if you get a completely remastered 4K version.
I'm really not sure how and why this is happening - maybe we finally hit the "rule of diminishing returns", where technology has reached a point where only minor increments are possible rather than revolutions, until someone comes up with something completely unprecedented and slightly insane, such as cybernetic body augmentation or the likes.
The technological angle however doesn't explain why things such as fashion haven't changed much more, and the most baffling thing - why nobody seems to talk about how we've essentially become frozen in time somewhere around 20 years ago.
Interesting take. IMO globalization basically stagnated any significant cultural progress.
On the other hand, 1910 and 1920 weren't that different aside from technology as opposed to 1950s and 1960s so well see
I disagree with your last point. Efficiency has no fashion or style. If the most efficient way to make a phone is a flat screen with electronics inside it'll be that way. All cars have to be aerodynamic so they're also shaped the same. You made great points before so I'm surprised you didn't conclude this, feel free to disagree.
Globalization and making content that appeals to everyone is why this is happening.
Also tech has not stagnated, on the contrary, we’re on the verge of exponential growth! AI is about to change the game
@@JUANxxTNAFANtech hardware is becoming smaller and faster, but have the applications really changed much? Even as they get faster, can we even tell when a application that currently takes a second to load takes half a second instead.
and what if the secret world government destroyed the USSR, the arms race and the competition of world systems, stopped scientific and technological progress at the level of the 60s, except for digital technologies for surveillance and control, and is now going to create a digital concentration camp and a social rating, as well as manage the number of people and reduce unnecessary peoples?
True story, I went to a restaurant for lunch a couple of weeks ago and a group of teenagers were sitting near me who looked exactly like my friends from high school back in the late 1980's. I could overhear their conversation and they were talking about Beavis and Butt-Head! I was really confused, I mean I am a pretty old guy, I shouldn't have that much in common with teenagers.
The show is back on television.
you expressed exactly what i feel.
we reached the point there are no new ideas to fulfill
💯🎯💯🎯
IMHO there are we just aren’t there yet. AI around and it’s only getting better. This time now will feel distinct in 10 years or less. It’s almost scary how advanced we’re getting with things.
I’ve often thought about this, but dismissed it as “everything was better when I was a teenager”
Mark Fisher puts it quite well if you read Capitalist Realism
That's what everyone has been encouraged to think about it. Everyone now is mindlessly dismissing the past and anything pre-2000 or so because, ultimately, corporate propaganda has co-opted everything and pushed these opinions like crazy in social media, reddit etc.
Yup
Stalled century. Everything just stopped
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot 9/11 sent us backwards.
When he said "There's no underground... there's no overground" I was really hoping the next line was going to be "there's just wombling free."
I thought it was going to be "because there's no trains"
It’s like how the basic idea of vehicle haven’t changed in 75 years - 4 wheels, an engine, and a steering wheel. Insane profits, financing, weak trade in value makes the business model stick and the consumer becomes dependent - I see the same business model with the phone companies now. Communication and transportation becomes faster and more cozy but it doesn’t stray from the business model or become ground breaking because that would ruin the monopoly
I seriously thought by this year we'd be getting 100 miles to the gallon on cars. The 2020 car I have only performs slightly better than the 2000 car that I just got rid of.
You seriously put everything I’ve been feeling into words. This is a great video. Lately I’ve found myself watching older movies and tv shows romanticizing the early 2000s before everything was so connected. I think the internet is great and it has and will continue to do great things for people, but we were never meant to be so interconnected as a society. It feels like we’re just slowly pushing towards one global culture.
The internet is anything but great. It stunts social development in children, has helped spread ridiculous conspiracy theories, has helped spread extremist ideologies, has helped spread false information, discourages in-person socialization, allows people to say whatever they want without consequences, divided humanity more than it has united them, etc. And that's only a few things, I could make a way longer list. The internet was a horrible invention
As grumpy middle-aged blokes a friend and I were recently lamenting how music and films have lost their sparkle. Growing up, saving pocket money for albums we really wanted and taping copies of albums from friends' older brothers and sisters, putting mixtapes together, taping songs off the radio... and now it's all available immediately. No waiting to have saved up enough to buy that new album anymore. Everything was significant as you had to work a bit for it and wait for it. Except a Therapy album I bought on a whim which turned out to be rubbish.
Buying VHS tapes of films I loved meant my curated collection really reflected what I loved. Now we spend half an hour choosing what to watch and then spend half the film on our phones catching up with Twitter, adding to our Amazon basket or playing games that force us to watch ads to continue.
I used to think having my head stuck in the 90s was the same as the older guys in the pub who hadn't moved on from skiffle bands, prog rock or punk. Lately I'm starting to think that it's also because it was the last age of pre-internet popular culture when your favourite new music video meant something if it popped up on MTV (and yes, I get the irony of saying this on the platform that killed MTV). Now instead of discovering music by watching Beavis and Butthead or listening to the radio the algorithm does it for me. And it feels like there's not much going on that's new.
I take comfort from thinking that somewhere out there kids are experimenting with instruments in cellars and garages and actually making something that's genuinely new and not just a copy of what is already successful.
I like the hope you have at the end. I have this hope too.
Hate to break it to you but the future is AI creating things, not the next generation of kids in cellars and garages. Don't get me wrong. People will still make things but by and large at some point soon it will be AI making most things. Want to envision a vision of near future? Read a book called Qualityland.
There's thousands to millions of kids doing creative things but none of them have a marketing psychology team and millions of dollars to put on the type of campaign talentless narcissists do
Record companies a&r and that sort of structure left the creativity to the artists and the marketing to the men in suits. Now it's wild west thru n thru
@@LilyGazoui don't
I realised half-way through that skit about the Dark Knight that, if I didn't already know which film you were talking about and which director you were impersonating, almost everything you were saying would also apply to the most recent Batman adaptation, "The Batman (2022)", as well
but it also applies to "Batman (1966)", even a few accidental moments of audio imbalance but nothing compared to Christopher Nolan always choosing to drown out dialogue
Baby Boomer Nurse here. The biggest change for me was the electronic medical record. First introduced in the large progressive hospitals, it wasn't until the 2010"s EMR were common in most hospitals across the country. My employer converted in 2008. It caused a huge uproar. Physicians had a hard time, asking the nurses to enter their orders and notes for them. Thankfully management put a stop to that. Physician private practices, the norm in 2000 are rare. The big medical systems have absorbed them, and physicians are now employees. They really don't like that. I retired in 2015 and worry about our healthcare, especially now, as I age, I will need more health care.
Insta-subscribed. Sometimes you stumble on someone who explains to you what you've been vaguely subconsciously aware of but unable to put into words or even think about.
That's one of the actual good things on the internet.
We’ve been economically stagnant (at least in U.K.) for almost 20 years now, which has to correlate with an equivalent 20 years or so of cultural stagnation. As I recall, this was Mark Fisher’s thesis in Ghosts of my Life.
A fiat system stole your future and your freedom. Do you still thinking that Bitcoin is useless?
It's called stagflation.
Everyone is in their own little bubble, consuming only their favourite entertainment and (more importantly) consuming mostly the information that reinforces their existing beliefs (confirmation bias). A bit ironic really, that while the WWW 'connects' the world, in many ways it enables and encourages us to lead increasingly separate lives. I like how you managed to combine a sketch and a short video essay in one :)
the www is still young, and the conformity has been frustrating. part of early crypto was trying to incentivize alternatives, but largely failed on first go-round. i think younger generations are communicating more originally, and using it better as a tool for accessing novel information. as a social species, humans will always fight this battle between novelty and conformity. yet due to the rapid and centralized expansion of tech, centralizing forces yet hv the upper hand w/n our capitalistic, monopolistic structures.
I don't exaggerate at all when I say the internet is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity
Kojima Fucken predicted this. it is just too scary how accurate that has been.
You have explained literally what i have been feeling but couldn’t put my finger to it! Instant subscribe, this needs to go viral. I love nostalgia but i’m also TIRED. I want to experience more futuristic shit and see fashion change! I’m so tired of Y2K.
I thought it was just me!😂 Watched 'Bumble Bee' in the cinema with a friend in 2018, it's set in 1987. I didn't realise this until my friend *told me* several months later when we were talking about it again. Sure, I thought it was odd there was a photo of Regan on the wall in a military base, but nothing else seemed remotely odd, even the abscence of mobile phones didn't click, because I still had a 'dumb' phone then and so wasn't adicted to it. My friend said, "What about the lead character having _loads_ of LPs?!" and my response was "So do I - I thought she was just a tad retro!"😅
If you told someone in 2019 that you were working from home, they would think you are self employed or a big boss of some company. That’s only 5 years ago
fair enough, i didnt think about this aspect
@@SentientSingularity the internet wasnt as fast back then, or as reliable (i think, im no expert)
I honestly thought there would be a brave new musical scene after COVID and lockdowns. I'm gen x and am increasingly sympathetic to the kids today growing up in this literal dystopian nightmare.
Pop music has won. I think it's time to get over it.
I said as much to my sis after a disappointing multi-artist concert, where nearly every person sounded like they hadn't left their house in 15 years.
Where is this generation's Soul II Soul?
@@jennybardoville5455 I like how you make a good point, and deliberately drop the ball namechecking one of the blandest pop acts of all time.
I'm kind of hoping AI does make the internet unusable for this reason.
The only genres that really exist nowdays is pop and rap everything else either is dead , has an influence of those two in it o they’re small time bands and artists at local lvls
This is brilliant. We don’t hear the timeline loop acknowledgments as nearly as much as we probably should. This was a breath of fresh air. Especially the pacing of this video. The pacing was top notch , to compliment the accuracy. Excellent work
What a biring world. We don't feel the same happiness and have that warm feeling, when something comes out you've been waiting for. Everything is present! People are not shocked or surprised anymore. Is that kond of world we want to live in? I remember turning on Billy Idol on RUclips and watching his concert for the first time. The euphoria and cheer of the people...... I was touched. No phones, no internet. People were jumping and singing to a rock music! It's not everything bad today. But, we have everything and everything is already seen.😢
Mark Fisher : “The slow cancellation of the future has been accompanied by a deflation of expectations. There can be few who believe that in the coming year a record as great as, say, the Stooges’ Funhouse or Sly Stone’s There’s A Riot Goin’ On will be released. Still less do we expect the kind of ruptures brought about by The Beatles or disco. The feeling of belatedness, of living after the gold rush, is as omnipresent as it is disavowed.”
Tony Soprano says it better “It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came too late for that and I know. But lately, I'm getting the feeling that I came in at the end. The best is over.”
Mark Fisher was a brilliant man who saw the game was up and cashed in early
What is really great is when the RUclips ad for TikTok interrupts the TikTok bit, making the whole point.
😂😂
I was wondering if this comment was worth making and lo! Someone has done it for me.
:) I was looking for this comment!
you don't use an adblocker? how do you even watch youtube at all?
@@xyaeiounn I can't be bothered, and I assume the ad revenue means a creator gets a tiny sliver more money from RUclips.
Besides, I use the annoyance of ads to limit my time watching videos.
I was literally just thinking about this yesterday. My dad was born in 1949 - He lived through every single major music and video media trend that ever existed. He saw the rise of Elvis and early Rock&Roll, he was a teenager when The Beatles thrived, he saw Disco and early electronic music being born, the 70s British Invasion, Grunge, Alt Rock, etc.
I was born in 1987, and I feel like music stopped being culturally relevant right around 2000. It was the last time that everyone all consumed the same movies and music. The might not have all liked it, but they knew about it.
We don’t experience culture collectively anymore because there’s no truly great media worth consuming. Look at what happened when there actually WAS something worth watching recently - Oppenheimer and Barbie were massive cultural phenomenons.
That’s why the Super Bowl headliner artists are are 30+ year-old musicians - because they’re the only ones that the majority of the viewership even recognizes.
An oversaturation of media does not, in any way, shape or form, mean there is not something worth watching or listening to; this is the same bad faith argument of "music nowadays sucks" from people who just don't bother looking for things and think all there is is the trendy garbage. The Superbowl caters a lot to people who grew up with the sport and I doubt Little Timmy getting a hint of Dua Lipa on the radio is going to be too concerned about football, unlike the 30-year-old dad who grew up listening to Rolling Stones, Ozzy Osbourne and Iron Maiden because the family had like 5 CDs that weren't completely scratched at home. Further, the 30-year-old dad already has a ton of music he likes and feels nostalgic for, where would he even find a relentless drive to look for new music to listen to? And getting even deeper into cultural relevance, there is this guy called Van Gogh who only got the recognition he did after kicking the bucket.
@@maxwellsterlingshut it
Actually 2010 was the end cuz the 2000s had emo & Myspace
I agree 100%. Cultural stagnation in all areas of 'life'. Some people even think we actually all died in 2012.
Yep. My electrician dad earnt £50 for the first hour. 30 years later, pretty much the same earning...well, house prices costing double has changed, so that's nice.
£50 an hour? Poor him. I'd describe that particular one as just desserts.
Sounds like he was greedy and unscrupulous 30 years ago and is sad that his greed isn’t index linked.
I don't think he means he's earning £50 per hour. To get him to turn up he charged(not earned)£50. It's amazing how many time wasters you meet in trades. Subsequent hours would be less. What he says is true, charge rates have not shifted.
@@nickyb6435 I've no doubt you're right. But I can't resist saying it's amazing how much time I've had wasted by tradesmen >:)
You can't measuring anything in time with £
I explain this to my kids often. Essentially, everything peaked in ther 90s. That was the sweet spot for everything from entertainment, sustainable climate, social cohesion and whatnot. It's been on a constant downward trajectory ever since.
That's what I think, too. I loved the 90's!
Isn't the point he's making that it isn't worse, it's the same. If nothing changes how can it be a downward trajectory?
Your kids might be better served by you filling them with blind optimism rather than telling them that everything is getting worse.
I don’t think there’s ever been a perfect era.
In 1980 the music was good, tv shows were crap, and the fear of nuclear war was at the back of everyone’s mind. The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 79, was the catalyst for the nuclear war anxiety during much of the 1980s.
We also had race riots in the early 80s in the U.K., mass unemployment, but we had better films lol.
1990 music was a mixed bag, tv shows were better, films were decent, and everyone was worrying about global warming.
2000, everyone was worried about Y2K, music was crap, films were so so, tv shows were a mixed bag, job opportunities were better.
No matter what era you live in, nothing is perfect.
I wouldn't describe it as such, rather the lack of choice means that bigger subcultures formed and with the fragmentation of the internet nothing is truly mainstream anymore. Today's music isn't any "worse", it's just more specific.
I can only agree with you completely. I would go back even further. Yes, we have social media now and this has triggered a different behavior from a lot of people, but if you look at the houses, the architecture, the really big milestones in research, it gets very thin. We don't have a world like the Jetsons, we don't have teleportation, we don't have anti-gravity, we don't have better education across the board, we don't have better networking of people worldwide, we don't have a more peaceful world and we don't have better leaders in business and politics.
Met my wife in 1998. Had my first child in 2000, and my fifth in 2007. I guess it takes a family to notice change.
Change within the bubble of your household only matters to you.
@@alisonschmitt9533I think they are also referring to cultural changes, as your children inform you about them, whether you ask or not
I've been saying this for years. I swear something about the date changing in such a significant way from 1999 to 2000 kinda traumatised us en masse, ever since around that time, we've only really been able to look backwards.
Definitely trauma from lockdowns and jab pressure.
It’s like we’ve all collectively been stage frightened upon being “given” a new millennia that we as a species really have no real idea of what to do with.
I dont think that's it. Anyway the millennium was only really a big deal for genX, and we' 2 generations past that now.
The 1920's didn't seem to have that problem. That's when the film industry started growing bigger. Some of my favorite comedy teams like the Marx Brothers and Laurel and Hardy began appearing at that time. The culture didn't seem to pine as much for the good old 1880's then. Maybe it did. Who knows. But I definitely like the 1980's more than the 2020's. Even though AI has been an interesting math tutor recently.
I was thinking about this annoying time thing the other day - I was learning about the second world war at school in the 90s and this event that ended in 1945 felt like FOREVER ago. But here I am in 2024 as a 42 year old, and 42 years before I was born was 1940 and suddenly I'm having a crisis because as it turns out, I don't feel old and that means WW2 happened pretty damn recently.
now we are approaching WW3
I was born in 1961 and spent my whole childhood building plastic models of WW2 aircraft. WW2 felt like centuries ago to me even though I was only born 16 years after the end. Wait til you reach 50: then it gets really quite strange: half a century. Half a century before I was born was 1911: Shakespeare lived only a few half-centuries ago ... etc.
Good sirs…our lifespans are too short to compare to the age of humanity, the age of life, Earth, the universe etcetera. You gentlemen are talking about a few decades. Maybe I’m too immature to understand.
@@AJayZy Sometime after 40 (it varies a bit from person to person), your perception of time, you know, that thing that goes a little faster each year? Yeah, well it starts making leaps and bounds, even in your day to day life. It is not as they advertise when they tell you that it must be how you remember past events. Not like that at all. Time literally seems to be speeding along, even the most mundane work. It makes you realize that it was yet another thing people lied to you about when you were young or were unable to articulate to you properly, that we all have MUCH LESS TIME than we thought we would when we were younger to enjoy life or get things done.
Well now I feel old 😂
I noticed this when The Who played the Super Bowl halftime show in 2010. Their heyday was the '70s. That's a four decade difference. It's like The Glenn Miller Orchestra playing the '84 Super Bowl halftime show.
Peak quality Simpsons, new episode every Sunday at 6. What a time to be alive.
Nostalgia for the early 2000s. God, I'm so old.
Try the 70's.
I was born in the early 2000s
I'm almost 25 and I feel this somehow...and I was born in 1999 😂
i was born in '08 and i have anemoia (nostalgia for a time i never lived in) for the 2000s in particular. it's not just you
@@krims_kringle That's interesting. An unusual view of the world indeed, I'm from'68, head back to my timeframe for some serious nostalgia. Hope it's not making life too difficult for you.
Madame Webb is famously set in 2003. You can tell because of... because er... I think there's a guy with a PSP on the subway?
Captain Marvel was set in 1995, and you mostly can’t tell. There’s a scene where she goes to an internet cafe with a dial-up modem, and also a scene where she ends up in a Blockbuster Video.
I hope it wasnt set in 2003 as PSP’s werent out yet!
Dude tf the PSP was not out in 2003
I think people underrate how different these times are.
In 1992 a teenager would say "the greatest guitar player is Slash" and his dad would answer "No, it's Hendrix/Clapton some jazz/prog guitar player". In 1997 a teenager would say that Radiohead's Ok Computer album was great, and his dad would say that Pink Floyd did it better in the 1970s. Even if differences existed, the two generations shared to a very large degree the same culture, practices, tastes, values. That is why in the 80s and 90s you could have romantic comedies in which the 25 years old secretary ends up with the +40 boss, and no one thought there was anything wrong with it, they were both adults with a similar culture even if born 2 decades apart. Even if fashion used to change a lot in the second half of the xxth century, technological advances were not radical, they meant going from black and white tv to colour tv, or going from vinyls to cds. Pop culture was a monoculture of rock bands and hollywood stars and tv shows since the 1960s till the internet age.
Right now that is not possible anymore. Men over 40 or even in their late 30s, who had a childhood without the internet, and remember the world before social media, have very little in common with young people who grew up with tablets, the internet, social media, on demand entertainment, and music being rap, trap, reggaeton and autotuned popstars instead of rock bands.
The way men used to meet women in the late xxth century, by approaching them in the real world, is unacceptable right now.
My god. You nailed it about the music. The music today is AWFUL. Cheap, forgettable and disposable.
In 1999, people still had to pull into gas stations to ask for directions because there wasn't Google maps on smartphones yet.
Yeah but people usually had maps in their glove compartment
Did we have raw sewage in every water way in 1999? Those were the days when you could see a GP within a month and you could get the treatment you needed in the NHS without waiting ten years.
I’ve thought this for years. Some of the things have changed are that there’s fewer shops and pubs are dead on a Saturday night. I could walk about in clothes from 2004 and nobody would notice but if I walked about in clothes from 1984 in 2004, I’d stick out like a sore thumb. Also, as I type this, I’ve got Ant & Dec’s Saturday night Takeaway on which is ending after 20 years, it’s practically the same show it was in 2004.
I think I am still walking around in some items of clothing from 2004..... 👀
Unfortunately, I’m not because they wouldn’t fit me now. ☹️
That show is so awful. It’s basically an advert that lasts an hour. lol!
I barely noticed my loss of privacy and human rights.
Paul Skallas talks about this, and refers to it as “Stuck Culture”. As you said, the internet’s decentralization of culture is a huge contributing factor.
If you want to target a wide audience, what can you do? You have to utilize IPs and cultural touchstones of the past-because those are the only ubiquitous cultural touchstones that are left. This is also why there largely aren’t any NEW huge “movie stars”. Today’s stars are still the stars from yesterday.
I’ve spoken a lot about how there doesn’t seem to be any cultural movements anymore because people are now behaving like sheep due to social media… which I still think is true to some extent, but I also completely agree with the points you have made
I was full sure that the internet would liberate people and that there would be a profusion of cultural diversity. I was COMPLETELY wrong.
Yeah I thought the same...never figured it would trigger mass mental illness...
The fact that we’ve seen a steady increase in the amount of flat earthers over the past 20 years is testament to this.
Another way of looking at it is that revolutionary changes like the advent of the internet bring about cultural changes, but once the new technology is no longer new, people settle to their old stereotypes, only now using the new technology routinely.
(Note I mean "people" in the plural sense. Individuals may change, masses stay mostly the same.)
This is one thing that isn’t talked about nearly as much as it should be. Social media homogenized peoples’ personalities. Even though there has been a huge push for people to be individual and “different”, all of that stuff is on the outside. On the inside, people have been forced to think more narrowly than ever before. You can’t just speak using your own thoughts anymore. It’s getting harder and harder to have “your own” thoughts anyways.
I've been saying something similar for ages. I reckon fashion has just stopped somewhere around the year 2000.
You could readily identify someone from the 70's, 80's or most of the 90's but you could kidnap someone from the 2000's drop them off in 2024 and no one would bat an eyelid at their clothes.
It's just that fashion is totally individualized now. Same with music. Youth trends today only happen online.
Bucket hats are making a comeback now, I mean, how starved for innovation are they?!?
According to 50s and 60s science fiction weren't we all in the future expected to dress like the crew on the starship Enterprise?
The only trend I've noticed as far as style goes is the broccoli haircut. Ugh.
Things change every day.
This is both superbly accurate and bloody hilarious. May I congratulate you on expressing something I've long thought, but could never put my finger on so conclusively.
I was born in 1987.
My grandparents were able to go to their travel agent to book a supersonic flight on Concorde. I cannot.
My parents saw humans walking on the moon. No human has walked on the moon in the last 50 years!
And yet we’re told about the incredible pace of change. We wanted flying cars but what we got was 140 character tweets…
The England men's football team haven't won the world cup of a game we invented, since 2 years before I was born.
Things are still changing, but not all change is progress. That's the problem.
It wasn't too long ago that you didn't pay baggage fees when you flew, or had to pay to select a seat.
Concorde is gone. Though modern jetliners are far more efficient and safer (though Boeing is making sure to change that it seems.) So that's a wash.
And the next time humans go to the moon, we'll get Ultra 8K footage livestreamed. But then what? It's hard for the MBA failsons to profit from moon landings, so, lower our expectations I guess.
Totally this. Even the latest Samsung or iPhone release is no longer an event as every new iteration is just that, a tweak or a slight improvement on an existing feature
You don't have to go to a stupid travel agent today, how about that? Space rockets are reusable now and you can access the internet anywhere in the world. WTF do you need on the moon anyway?
I contest the man on a Moon experience, I think that generation were victims of the greatest hoax in human history!
I'm still watching Star Trek TNG, DS9, & Voyager every year or 2.
The only Trek shows that matter
@@Ryan-br6np yes yes. And Enterprise, if multiple watchings diminish appreciation over time 😅
Don't forget Stargate (and Atlantis) and Farscape, I always go back to them as well.
You and me both!
Blake's Seven anyone?
I'm 27 and you've put into words what I've been feeling and saying for years now. THank you for this video.
I think about this alllll the time!
Thabks for this video!
The main thing I took from this is that Social Media and the world shrinking down to the size of a marble, is now being concluded as a generally terrible thing. And I agree.
The unfortunate side-effect of the world shrinking to become a global village is that there are no other villages to visit anymore.
The world is the same everywhere in the West.
It's called standardization. It's naturally going to happen.
This was great, and the cultural stagnancy of the world wide web era is something that I've always been bothered by. Life is simply less colourful than it was in the past - literally. Everyone lives in plain white (or greige) boxes, and drives cars that are white, grey, silver or black (no colours allowed) and listens to tuneless music. Colour has gone out of fashion at around the same time when culture stopped evolving, and I don't understand how people can think that, in the 20 years separating 2024 from 2004, things have changed as much as they did between, say 1974 and 1994. But yet it's something that is seldom spoken about.
I feel you about the lack of color. I look back on things from pre-1990s and am struck by how COLORFUL everything is! Almost everything, from fashion to vehicles to furniture to houses to appliances and on and on has COLOR! And DIFFERENT COLORS TOO! I remember being a young teen and watching an old episode of Bewitched: Samantha Stephens parks her car in a parking lot and I was shocked by how colorful the cars were and how almost every one was a different color or shade.
I can't prove this, don't know how I would, but I feel like the internet+social media (from here on referred to collectively as 'the internet') has a lot to do with the increasing monochromatic and simplistic nature of fashion, decor, tech, etc. The internet thrives on mockery and insult, and once the internet became a major way of interacting with and experiencing the world it became more and more difficult to get through life without being mocked. Mocking people was/is such a common practice that people became ever more scrutinizing about their mockery: to run out of things to mock was to run out of social currency, and so it became a "the nail that sticks up gets hammered down" scenario, where you could and would be mocked for just about anything.
Getting rid of anything noticeable about your appearance and the appearance of your belongings was for many the easiest way to avoid mockery: if everything you wear and own is black, white, gray, and featureless, there is less to mock.
Michael Spicer himself demonstrates this in this very video, by mocking Batman's costume, saying he couldn't possibly be taken seriously. For having two little points coming up from his hood. His MONOCHROME hood. On his MONOCHROME costume. And for that, he can't be taken seriously, can't have an inner struggle, can't have any depth. You see how easy it is to get mocked for what you wear and what you own? Who would ever risk being seen in bright yellow bell bottoms and a pink plaid turtleneck when even two raised points on your entirely black outfit is enough to render you not worthy of human consideration?
I remember reading something from someone who was a teen before the internet, let alone social media. They made the point that when they were a teen if they approached a girl and hit on her and struck out and looked like a fool, that as embarrassing as it would be, very few people would know about it and it would probably be forgotten very quickly. Now, you are mocked for just about anything and the nature of the internet means people around the world can witness your being mocked, AND your being mocked can be recorded for years if not decades to come! Who would ever risk standing out in a world like that??
This is the era of average and sameness (yawn time)...
The dopamine novelty of Y2k has gone
Blame the Germans and PCP finance for the boring car colours. When I was buying a car last year I went for a very blue car. I just wanted something different. No regrets. Puts a smile and my face and others every time they walk past it. Overheard someone say that they wished they could have that colour blue.
My sister had a choice of a red car or the same in silver. Chose silver. So I’m always trying to get n the wrong car in a lot. They all look the same.
“There’s no underground anymore.” Nailed it. Music especially suffers because of this.
There's plenty of stuff you can find if you dig around. It's just split up a ton into all kinds of smaller communities.
@@Aubreykun good point. I grew up having just missed out on the ‘80s underground thing (which was really a bunch of “things”) and it still colors my thinking. Having toured a little recently you see what you’re talking about, just wish there was more of it
This whole piece is just nostalgia right. Im betting every viewer is 35+
That is a stellar Christopher Nolan impression.
Interstellar, surely?
He is a Christopher Nolan expert. See his Tenet video.
@@clownpenisfart oh I have, that's what brought me to the channel in the first place. Brilliant stuff all around.
Also, love your screen name😆
I love that you have raised this point. It's not spoken upon enough. There is no fashion really anymore (not that I care tbh). Think about how long "modern" and "contemporary" grey has been around in peoples houses, it's been fashionable for over 20 years now and shows no sign of going away.
There's no longer a point in watching "renovation" programs. Every living area ends up grey with gold fixtures and kitchens reminiscent of a 1940's operating theatre.
My response has been painting my kitchen to match Matisse's "Open Window at Collioure".
If you haven't read (or watched) any of Mark Fisher's books/lectures, I highly recommend. He speaks at length on the slow cancellation of the future
:) I'm honestly concerned that my daughter doesn't hate the music I listen to with the same passion that I had towards what MY parents listened to back in the '70s...
I think you're right that it isn't spoken about enough. Whenever it's brought up people tend to blame it on personal nostalgia. I think that's becoming an unsustainable position thankfully.
After watching some 1960's colour The Avengers episodes, i painted my flat walls orange, for a year.
This video is spot on, and it validates something that I have been thinking about a lot lately.
Mark fisher wrote about "the slow cancellation of the future". Worth a read.
At 41 I realised that if someone in their 20's gets into something that was current when I was that age then that something is now retro and they are also, by association, retro.
However, if I'm _still_ into it then I'm just old and need to move on/get with times/etc..
I'd say 1999 was peak humanity Michael 😀. I'd love to relive those times again. We had all the same technology, but it was somehow less intrusive and pathological.
I have to go get contacts again because I miss the good old days of wearing my rose tinted glasses
Wages had peaked, housing was still affordable - I bought a 3 story 4 bedroomed townhouse in Yorkshire for £32k and spent £30k restoring it to Victorian perfection with original materials. I was 29, I had a rover 75 company car and a brand new Lotus Elise 111S for the weekends.
Life was GREAT, as it was for most people. or at least an ever increasing % of people at the time.
@@piccalillipit9211 Even our broke as hell family had a brand new 3 bedroom house in Lancashire. $43000 on a 5% deposit. It was a wonderful time.
@@alhemmings8554 - I was just a basic salesperson at the time. NOT a director of a company or a solicitor. A guy with 8 O levels and 1 A level who never went to university - started commission only at the Yorkshire Evening Post.
AND more to the point - I grew up in extreme poverty, went to school in a black bin bag for REAL...!!! My point is that upward mobility was a THING and even a relatively basic job paid enough to have A LIFE.
Damn - I knew it. We ARE in the matrix.
We’ll never get a nostalgia movie for 2002. We are still living it.
I don't laugh uncontrollably very often. But that Batman sketch almost had me on the floor. You've earnt a sub :D
I've been a Reggae boy since I was 16, and next week I am 75. Still listening to Reggae! And I was a Soulman, and a Funkateer. And I still listen to the 3 genres. I spent 16 years, 1974-1990, as a professional DJ. Music keeps going, regardless of what the industry wants to sell. The biggest change, between 1999 and 2020-2024, is that I have to keep stopping, in my bright yellow Cabin Car, so that I don't run over pedestrians, who walk along pavements, capable of only seeing their mobile phones!
And I have never listened to Coldplay, whatever they do.
You're the same age as King Charles ... and my Trinidadian mother.
@@beingsshepherd I am younger than the so-called king Sausage Fingers the Turd. And I am a SNOWFLAKE, a title given to me by my peers. You don't even know what that word means.
Well said.
Underrated comment
In the early nineties my sister got the internet. She said I could sit down and search for anything I wanted, I just stared at it and had not a clue what to look for. I felt that there was nothing I particularly cared to know. Come 2024 and I pause the programmes to look up the IMDB page to see what other films the actors have been in.
Thank you for putting into words what ive been feeling for a while. Watching this video while wearing a hoodie I bought in the 00s and it looks just as current as it did back then make it extra good 😂
You sir make excellent points. Thumbs up to you. Also I was thinking along similar lines and you've helped confirm my thoughts on these matters, which makes me feel good.
This idea is a central one to the work of the late, great Mark Fisher.
Hauntology.
Here to chime in the same. I still push people to his 'Slow Cancellation of the Future' lecture.
We’ve all kind of been killing time waiting for the other shoe to drop b/c everything feels so precarious since 2001. Thats part of the trends towards nostalgia binging too. Keep looking back cuz there’s nothing good up ahead.
A lot of middle eastern people are getting killed by americans and europeans and blamed for getting angry for being killed by americans. Yes nothing changed in 20 years
Great analysis and viewpoints!
I’ve watched a lot of your videos Michael, all good stuff. This one however had me click subscribe. Keep up the good work chief.