My husband won't come near a computer until they come out with a pull cord, so I thought I'd post this for him. He's in the LR right now watching you on RUclips and blathering on about your attention to detail and appreciating the fact that you're one of the few online who isn't a "slam banger." He's also regaling me with stories about his beloved 1954 Ford Jubilee and frankly, I needed a break. I love him dearly, but when he starts talking rotors and such, he may as well be talking to our shi tzu. Anyway, he appreciates you.
What a great wife. Some of its very interesting. Some is not. But ad us men do we nod r heads and smile saying Yes dear, Of coarse urr butt looks great in those jeans, I'd wear urr butt for a hat, and so on.
It's nice that he still wants to share stories with you. May come a time when we miss the time with people blathering on about things we don't understand, but they still wanted to invite us. I definitely understand though i annoy people when I'm blathering too😅
@@i-love-comountains3850 I definitely think of that often. I remember reading about a woman who bitched about her husband's snoring for years...and then he passed...she would've given anything to hear his snoring again. Sorry to hijack your thread with girlie things, Squatch...
I don't think you could ever absolve yourself of responsibility for the track press, or forgive yourself if anyone else got hurt using it. You've made the right call there. ( Shame you didn't get the explosion on cam though, it might have made a more viewed video than a "will it run" )
You definitely made the right call there. The liabilities would kill you. I used to have farmers come in the shop to get their cultivator shanks re-arced. I would do it and so would a couple of guys in the shop but we protected ourselves. I had a shank break and pieces embedded themselves into the wall behind the press and a shard even went into the ceiling. I made a new rule that customers weren't allowed near the press when we were doing anything like that. No sooner did I issue that when I caught the owner of the place with one of his close friends (read: wealthy customer) and they were re-arcing a bunch of shanks with NO shields in place. I just got everyone out of the shop. When the boss quizzed me I told them that I wasn't prepared to face the spouse of a co-worker and tell them that the person caught a projectile...
Absolutely the correct call, Sir! Avoiding the tragedy of someone injured and the accompanying litigation is paramount! Excellent video! Stay well, stay safe!
I love this type of detailed in depth technical content, it’s what I’m always in search of. So I’m not tired of track press content. I’ve learned useful hints about jig making, hydraulic pressures, part fitment, the behavior of parts jumping past spec, danger zones, repetitive process setup, even cost/time economics. Filmed very well too, great job as always.
I must say, that having 2 d25U tractors and 2 Cat 22 tractors, these video's have been hugely educational and helpful. I now know alot more about assessing track wear and how to correct if need be. Not hat I want do do that:) I will also point out that i have been looking for over 1 year for a track gauge like you have shown in prior vidoe's. I finally found a source. If you are a ACMOC member, you can order them from the club in Australia. They make them as well as several other hard to find items that I needed for my 22's. keep up the great work and video's, I am always on the lookout for new video's you post. Much better than watching anything on TV!
That kind of hydraulic pressure is crazy spooky, you saved those old tracks for the Hail Mary, you and the press survived and that’s a good thing! Great video as always!
@@squatch253 And you don’t want that hydraulic oil under your skin if that wire braid in the hose give up. Sure am glad you’re done with that task and I know you are.
@@jmailbell Yes be mindful and do little research anyone who has never heard the above statement Never ever grab at a leaking pressurized hydraulic anything.
I would have LOVED to have a track press. Helping my Grandfather, from the time I was a kid, winter was overhaul time for all of the family construction company's heavy equipment, including the two old D7s. Some years it was turning pins and bushings, some years, we replaced them. Either involved an oxy/acetylene torch, a pin dog and a sledge hammer. First time I saw a pin press setup was at the Cat shop in Billings when I was about 16 or 17. Never understood why Grandpa was so against us just rolling up the tracks and delivering them to the shop to have the pins turned or new pins & bushings installed until I got a bit oder and found out what Cat wanted just to turn the pins in a set of D7 tracks.
In 97 while drivin d9 track pins , a 22 bullet size piece left the pin , traveled 80 ' across the shop entered my Buddy's chin dead center and traveled to his carotid artery on left side of his neck and lodged adjacent to it . Emergency surgery to remove it and lots of swelling and discoloration. He missed 6 wks work atleast. An angel was surely present that day as it could have been final call .
Good video. I totally understand and agree with you about the track press and track work. I know just using a press in the shop, it is always serious. I have seen how things can go bad just with 10 or 20 tons and up to 50 tons. Safety is always primary when doing press work. Thanks for sharing. Take care, Ed.
Hay squatch I had a Dr appointment and was watching your channel a fellow patient said he watches your channel so just to let you know you are out there. Enjoy your channel keep up the good work you do
Hi Toby, oh, good heavens! I got mentioned in dispatches! Having seen that shattered pin I totally agree with you. If you ever really, really have to do this again maybe a steel shield and/or a pice of kevlar would not go amiss. When you showed that spiked piece I immediately thought of it piercing a carotid artery in the neck. Immediate unconsciousness followed shortly by death. Now I know why you stand where you do. Very wise. Once again, thank you for the pleasure you give with these videos as well as the very valuable archive of 'how to do it safely'. Cheers.
Glad your press worked for you. And it is understandable why you would not want to do it for hire or loan out your contraptions to do it either. You have shown just what dirty and dangerous work it takes to restore that track and how valuable that work and components are. If ever I find a D2 to buy, I know what dragons await me!
Where I did my apprenticeship they used to be involved in agri work at an earlier time and had a track press mounted in a pit. The sides of the pit had plenty of shrapnel damage!
I was a track press operator for a Cat dealer for 5 years and did so many refurbs. Some of which were D11 tracks and boy oh boy disassembling cleaning and reassembling of those heavy tracks was a nightmare and I’m SO glad I don’t do that anymore. Don’t miss this one bit.
The weights of those track configurations blew my mind. I knew this stuff was heavy but being just a dumb city boy never having messed with this kind of equipment I had no idea.
Worked at a welding an machine shop in my middle teens 72-74 during high school 15.5 to 17.5 years old. Cost of Oxy and Actyl was going up so boss wanted the hydraulic shears used whenever possible. Had a guy from business next door come in with a steel sheer type blade he wanted to make a knife out of. He was unable to drill a hole in it with their tooling and thought our old lathe operator might have some ideas. Well they heated it up cherry red and oil quenched it twice checking for ability to drill through it each heat and quench cycle. Drill bit could then scratch it but that was all. So he asked about using the punch function in the hyd shears. Unfortunately the shears did NOT have a manual alignment function to verify safe alignment. You had to power up the shear and as the hyd pump motor was winding down actuate it hoping for a slow response. The guy decided on an elongated rectangular hole punch with oval ends. The welder most familiar with the hyd shear and punch installed the punch set, think carbide or high tensile treated steel and I told the fella wanting the knife made to step back where I was putting the thick metal body of the shear machine between he and the new punch die set. He blew my suggestion off. There was a loud pop then I looked over at him to see his entire lower jaw had dropped and all of his teethe on that side before the bleeding became profuse. The piece found to be missing from the male portion of the punch was the size of a fingernail clipping from an adult’s little finger. And the piece from the female piece a bit larger went through a 3/8 or 1/2 inch piece of plywood about 10 feet away. His jaw cheek was opened from just behind where his lips join to near the large rear muscle of the back of the jaw. Had the piece hit him in the carotid artery or back of his throat there would have been nothing that could be done for him. He came back in the shop a few days later sporting a lot of switches and told me I should have listened to you, yep you should have but it could have been far worse he said I know. I hated those shears.
Almost 70 years ago , as a high school physics student my boss allowed me to check the torque on the drive gears on an Allis Chalmers HD 5 tractor . No torque wrench available so a very large adjustable wrench , tenfoot length of pipe, weighted four people on the grain scale , measured from center of shaft to the distance calculated refrencing weight of man standing on the pipe . when pipe came level with man standing on the pipe we called it good ! Wrench was bent enough that it would bust your knuckles if it was hanging on the wall and you looked at it hard ! That wrench lives in a dead furrow in an Ohio cornfield today at my behest !
Well, wow. Sir, your videos are quite a find. You present very well, you have data, specs and evidence at hand. No bullshit and to the point, honest and thorough. This is some first class content AND mechanicing. 👏 Customers are very blessed to have a guy like you around.
awesome video it's amazing how much wear them bushings had that they are all broken it must have run lots of hours or else in snow. The weight of the track really changes fast with the wide pads. It's a good thing that you didn't get hit with the pieces of the bushings that iron is so hardened it just chatters.
13:00, 13:03 , 😊 I'll Spill the Beans about this part of the episode. If I remember right Florin tractor comes through once again and gets a set of rollers for 5j 1113.!😊
Track work seen in your videos has made it clear to me that I’ll stick with rubber tired tractors. I love your videos, they are just so satisfying because you do things the right way, you are a glutton for punishment. Keepem’ comin’.
After first hand experiencing flying press debris.... watching this... I'm nervous for you. Even standing behind something I'd probably still catch something in the back from ricochet. You are one brave soul.
As it is I love watching you work your way through stuff and putting you mind against the machines your out foxing thanks for keeping it real and honest about the dangers of pressing really trashed worn out parts
When I worked for Cat, I guy almost died from track shrapnel. He was wearing a flack jacket at the time. Went through the zip area, nicked a heart vein...
Great video! I remember someone asking me with no experience to press a D8H track apart to turn the bushings. I certainly had enough experience with much heavier presses and dozers to realize that if i could reach my whole hand inside the bushing and grab the pins, rhat had already been turned once it was a resounding NO They asked if they could still be rotated 1/3! I was apparently too young to know anything, so they asked an old Cat mechanic. He said, "He shouldn't have said "NO" he should have said, "Hell No!" That's when he and i became good friends! Some people can turn a good machine into "Dozer residue" in one season, trying to pinch pennies they have tons of!
I’ve been a subscriber for I’m guessing over 2 years now and can honestly say that I never tire of the content because I always learn something. I also know you will always default to safety. Great video!!
Fifty years of track work. I would have torched them out before trying to press. Seen too many run the first side too far. The look on their face when you tell them the bushings and pins are junk is priceless.
Unless one had worked with a press they have no idea what kind of stored energy that is there when you start applying pressure. I remember during my automotive service days when I had a front axle rusted into a front wheel hub. Took the whole knuckle off the vehicle and put it in a 50 ton shop press. It was close to 50 tons when it let go, or to be clear the knuckle exploded! Luckily no one was hurt but it sounded like a bomb went off. That was the first and last time I attempted that. After that I ordered all new parts!
When I was up in Cape York Australia in the early 1970s, I saw "bush mechanics" doing similar work. They had a "cannon", about an 8 inch diameter steel billet with a hole. A pin would be put into the hole with a partial stick of dynamite behind it, with the fuse from the cap going out a small hole. The cannon would be "aligned" with the pin on shims of bits of wood., stone, whatever. When the dynamite detonated, the pin would strike the pin/bush and knock them out of the other side of the track. If the first shot didn't get it subsequent ones would. Reinstallation used a shouldered pin that would only "press" until the shoulder homed. The tracks were not removed. All was done on the dozer with the work area located on the bottom, mid way between cogs. This was done on remote sites where transport "South" would be weeks at best and 5/6 months in the "rainy season". New parts were light enough to be flown in.
Unless you've worked with a track press, you can't appreciate what it does. I've knocked pins out with a sledge before on site & it's a true pain. Glad those days are long gone. At the time I was working with a 941.
I was kind of surprised that the bushings had worn so badly and yet the links are still at 50% wear. It's clearly the bushings that take the most wear. Is it not possible to buy new pins and bushings for these chains?
@@squatch253 Thanks for taking the time for such a comprehensive reply. Running tracks in the snow reminded me of some interesting discoveries. Here in the UK is company making all metal 1:6 scale armoured vehicles, mainly tanks. I have built a Tiger 1 and a Sherman M4. They are serious bits of kit weighing about 350lbs and will easily tow a car on level ground with their 24v motors. We don't get much snow here in London UK but eventually we got a couple of inches which equates to 12" scale depth. The Tiger was useless in the snow, after only a few feet the snow had compacted in the multiple wheel arrangement and the tracks went very tight, threatening to bend a drive shaft or return roller axle. Now I know why the Germans suffered so badly with them in Russia and there are pictures of them running without all their wheels. The Sherman was much better but eventually the snow built up between the double horns where the rubber road wheels run, so also tightening the tracks. This said I know with the track chains caterpillars are different but it would be interesting to see one of yours perform in the snow.
@@squatch253 Good to hear you are also into tanks. I'm retired now but my career was in the UK Ministry of Defence test and evaluation. At the Royal Military College the officers did assessments of tanks sort of based on three things, fire power, protection and mobility and the trade offs between these. The US military had a thing called RAM-D reliability, availability, maintainability and dependability. Again loads of trade offs between these properties. There is a great set of You Tube videos from the Australian Armour museum with the restoration of tanks and the German machines look really complicated and difficult to work on. The Tigeer 1 has to be the most iconic tank despite its faults but one of my favourite is the T72
Hi Squatch I think someone has hacked your comments.they are asking me to message you on telegram to collect a prize. If it is a hack could you warn others at the beginning of the next vid. Thanks Keep up the good work.
That was a brilliant explanation of the hazards that could present themselves. More shielding would make it safer, but as you say, its hard heavy work.
oh god at my work I had to press apart a set of those links. apparently the steelmill uses those links for a conveyer or something like that. it was super sketch pressing the links out and it was a huge pain in the ass. we had to use our big 100 ton press to get the pins out.
When I worked for a heavy equipment dealer I did one set of tracks before and said never again. I’ll change pads and such but that bullwork is for temp hires.
I was attracted to this channel….by the. .. name and numbers ..lol. .. I was an operator of many different machines over the years …. Many a time when something had to be fixed ..and didn’t have the right tool to fix the problem…. So one had to be inventive and make the tool , … fabricated some weird stuff.. and most of them worked .. lol . . .. SAFTY FIRST …. I still have all my fingers and toes… :o) Good vid … nice work .. well presented…. Have a. Fun. Day. !
Toby, agree with your thoughts, even though we had a very large and powerful commercial press we still had to fit a safety cage around the business end. Working with new pins and bushes is a lot less hazardous but still the worn parts were still brittle and prone to exploding in the press when they were dismantled. At least you have shown the enthusiast that it can be done in a home workshop, I bet Kyle Christ might be interested as his old machine he is pulling apart will need a re-furbed chain
*- This might be the most important video ever done for the community. Kudos to you, Sir.* *- Showing Why and How something is dangerous is so much better than saying it is so can ever be.* *- The Shrapnel Remains you showed AND your effective explanations of why danger is present with this type of project, are very valuable, not just for the arena...it transfers to all areas in general.* *- Should this video have its own Playlist "Safety Tutorial" label? *- Would RUclips algorithms can pick up on that to the advantage of all?*
You are a very hard worker!! That was a lot of work but now you have a pretty good spare part inventory. That old Cat has a cool look!!! Well worn but mechanically sound. Great video!!
Your idea of making a track chain press worked well on decent pins and bushings. I will add that should you do them again throw a heavy cloth blanket (fire blanket/canvas) as a guard for potential exploders. Good video content.
looking at the fracture, that is a very fine-grained, hi quality steel, you could probably make lathe tools out of those scrap bushings. yeah the 16s look better, I would go with those.
Just for your safety press blankets are put over equipment being press they are cheap compared to injury and they catch all the shrapnel if things explode.
Our big presses had polycarbonate shields. I made custom shields for some semi-automated equipment. Poly-carbonate survives impacts to a very high force. It is easy to drill, cut, and bend (heat it to bend) so odd shapes can be made. For your use 1/4" should do, but if you want a little extra go with 3/8" Looks just like plexiglass but plexy ain't poly so make sure to buy the real deal.
Well, they are both "poly"... Just one being poly (methylmeth)acrylate, and the other poly (usually bisphenol-A + phosgene) carbonate. Like how there's also polyester, of which common ones are PET, PLA, and be Nylon. (Single-use plastic bottles, 3D printer filament, everything-where-fiber-strength-trumps-price/high-strength molded parts (with glass fiber reinforcement, premium-grade cordless drill housings, but it's very versatile.
I´d like to get one of them run thru bushings. Just chime in- one of those in my shop over the bench would look nice and it´s got a solid backstory. Thanks!
The dangers of press fitting or removing pressed fit parts is scary .Talk about shrapnel from a grenade this stuff can fly through cinderblock with ease !
You might drape something like a movers blanket over the top of the press so it hangs down loose. May not entirely stop fragments but will absorb most of the energy.
Glad you didn’t get hurt squatch I couldn’t even imagine getting hit in the eye by something like that we were bailing onnce and the fly wheel fell apart from the pto shaft the two major bearings that held in place blew apart and the fly wheel went across the field across the rd and came to rest in the neighbors cow lot lucky no one was in front of the bailer or no traffic and the cows were on the far side of the lot it was a ford bailer
If I were to do that job I would put a thick rubber blanket over the press area for the reason you showed us .happy to see all is well Denis from Santa Rosa ca
Yep, lot of force in a small area. I noticed you hydraulic press dnd tilting a bit putting side load on the bushings and pins. I would find me some bullet resistant plexiglass or glass to make a viewable cover to place over that open area.
Worked at a track shop once, the main guy was blind in one eye from a d9 chain bushing blowing up. A shard the shape of a small sickle carved his face and took his eye out. He was wearing safety glasses, running a professional Berco track press.... Them things are a scary piece of a kit..
I'd just put a iron blast chamber and a baby camera around the press im looking at for bushing work on this old equipment good to know thanks might save my life with these cast iron wheels on my hay lift and sickle bar mower
I worked in a track shop. Mostly D10 D11 but others as well. When I saw what you were doing on an earlier video, I was thinking this may not go well. Not to mention the proper tooling which you didn’t appear to have. Pin release tools mostly.
You are always so conscience of safety , put a press in the mix, Murphy’s law who knows!! Scary to say the least , very good video, I watch you always staying out of the line of fire, behind the main frame, a press and big tonnage like you’re doing is always a bomb trying to go off if you don’t contain it! Great job of putting your point across! 👍
You have to be. That kind of tonnage is lethal if you're playing dumb games. The shop that does big dozer stuff for my outfit, they make their operators wear kevlar over pants, because even if they're protected behind the area of contact, if the parts shatter and fly about, they can ricochet. The owner even has a small wall section with a red line around it, where a dice sized piece of metal is embedded in the steel over foam wall. It's three meters away from where the 50 ton press is located and considering it's behind benches and lathes, the only way it ever got there (they found it much later) is if had ricocheted against the floor. Of my own experience, my brother was hurt during one of our repairs, he wasn't even near the press. You just do not play games with stuff like this. Big machinery don't care. It's on Honey Badger levels of ain't care.
Man you are lucky! I had a Ball Peen hammer explode on me and the part that came off entered on the inside of my elbow and ended up in the base of my bicep muscle…yup and I only found out it was in there two years later when I had a XRay! At the time I had what I thought was a small nick on the inside of my elbow but then my arm hurt for a few days and that was it. I eventually had to have it removed because I needed a MRI ! I still have that piece of that hammer!
I worked in a machine shop and pressing the bearings from axles was very dangerous. Even with a wood block under the press to absorb the force it could drive some studs out of the flange. Frequently I'd have to torch bearings because the 40 ton press wouldn't budge them.
Excellent video again! Keep up the great work. I seen a Fordson powered 1920 Galion Road Roller for sale on marketplace, and immediately thought of you.
Love your content man, recently found you. Keep it up. You should consider reaching out to a local Non Ferrous Foundry and ask if they can cast you the bearings and pins, if you want, they may even be able to make you some tooling for your press out of NiHard or a similar alloy.
What if there was a big steel door arching the press alongside the one at the back? You do most of the work here from one side so one of the sides could be fixed with just a hatch to place the different pieces for the press. The hatches could be locked down in case you did need to access the other side. Even if it didn't stop the shrapnel, it would at least slow it down.
A mechanic shop I frequented had built a cage they used to cut the springs inside truck maxi pots. They had holes for the torch used to cut the holes and this springs. Made some pretty large bangs, but contained all the parts.
My idiot cousin got hit in head with one of those maxi springs. Then he was hit by a train crossing rr track in dump truck and was kicked in head by a pulling horse, not a riding horse but a horse like Clysdales bud weiser horses. He was a nut. I wouldn't know why. Roland was his name. Think he's dead now. Hate to talk I'll of tge dead but I'm sure he won't care. And he was my family so if family can't talk shit about family who can?
Hello Squatch!! Boy oh boy you certainly have a point about that track bushing/pin press work!! I remember a small part of my job at IBM East Fishkill, NY involved operating a 130 ton hydraulic press that was surrounded by a heavy metal cage with a door on the cage so you could do the necessary initial setup with bearings and such for heavy exhaust fans on 3 and 4 inch diameter fan shafts and other stuff. That press had me nervous a few times with the BIG BANGS produced by the items in the press!! We never had any breakage thank God or anyone getting hurt in any way, BUT that thing would have my nerve's rattled for the short time I would be using it!!!!!! Again thanks for the video!!
@@dantheman1998 A lot of different things from Small and LARGE Forklift parts, Axles, bearings and air supply fan and exhaust fan shafts from 2 inch up to 4 inch diameter and other custom stuff for buildings and other odd stuff.
True about dogs and machinery. My BIL lost a young pup of theirs after it got it's head in-between something. We teach our dogs to chase balls, sticks, and stuff, basically anything moving. That's probably not a bright idea if the dog is around industrial equipment.
honestly this sort of accident is easily avoided and we do this at work sometimes which is you just get a heavy towel and toss over it nothing will fly anywhere
Wow I have only seen 1 other set of tracks with bushings worn through. That was in the 60’s. My dad made a press using a cat ram and the 4010 JD tractor for hydraulics. Dad said the tracks worn so bad because of plowing it’s whole life.
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My husband won't come near a computer until they come out with a pull cord, so I thought I'd post this for him. He's in the LR right now watching you on RUclips and blathering on about your attention to detail and appreciating the fact that you're one of the few online who isn't a "slam banger." He's also regaling me with stories about his beloved 1954 Ford Jubilee and frankly, I needed a break. I love him dearly, but when he starts talking rotors and such, he may as well be talking to our shi tzu. Anyway, he appreciates you.
What a great wife. Some of its very interesting. Some is not. But ad us men do we nod r heads and smile saying Yes dear, Of coarse urr butt looks great in those jeans, I'd wear urr butt for a hat, and so on.
It's nice that he still wants to share stories with you. May come a time when we miss the time with people blathering on about things we don't understand, but they still wanted to invite us.
I definitely understand though i annoy people when I'm blathering too😅
@@i-love-comountains3850 I definitely think of that often. I remember reading about a woman who bitched about her husband's snoring for years...and then he passed...she would've given anything to hear his snoring again. Sorry to hijack your thread with girlie things, Squatch...
That's hilarious! Men can get so passionate about such things.
@@judenwayne Ain't nothing girly about talking about the people and things you love, that's just human
I don't think you could ever absolve yourself of responsibility for the track press, or forgive yourself if anyone else got hurt using it. You've made the right call there. ( Shame you didn't get the explosion on cam though, it might have made a more viewed video than a "will it run" )
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You definitely made the right call there. The liabilities would kill you. I used to have farmers come in the shop to get their cultivator shanks re-arced. I would do it and so would a couple of guys in the shop but we protected ourselves. I had a shank break and pieces embedded themselves into the wall behind the press and a shard even went into the ceiling. I made a new rule that customers weren't allowed near the press when we were doing anything like that. No sooner did I issue that when I caught the owner of the place with one of his close friends (read: wealthy customer) and they were re-arcing a bunch of shanks with NO shields in place. I just got everyone out of the shop. When the boss quizzed me I told them that I wasn't prepared to face the spouse of a co-worker and tell them that the person caught a projectile...
Absolutely the correct call, Sir! Avoiding the tragedy of someone injured and the accompanying litigation is paramount! Excellent video! Stay well, stay safe!
Nobody loans press tools of any kind... and for good reason.
I love this type of detailed in depth technical content, it’s what I’m always in search of.
So I’m not tired of track press content. I’ve learned useful hints about jig making, hydraulic pressures, part fitment, the behavior of parts jumping past spec, danger zones, repetitive process setup, even cost/time economics.
Filmed very well too, great job as always.
I must say, that having 2 d25U tractors and 2 Cat 22 tractors, these video's have been hugely educational and helpful. I now know alot more about assessing track wear and how to correct if need be. Not hat I want do do that:)
I will also point out that i have been looking for over 1 year for a track gauge like you have shown in prior vidoe's. I finally found a source. If you are a ACMOC member, you can order them from the club in Australia. They make them as well as several other hard to find items that I needed for my 22's.
keep up the great work and video's, I am always on the lookout for new video's you post. Much better than watching anything on TV!
That kind of hydraulic pressure is crazy spooky, you saved those old tracks for the Hail Mary, you and the press survived and that’s a good thing! Great video as always!
@@squatch253 And you don’t want that hydraulic oil under your skin if that wire braid in the hose give up. Sure am glad you’re done with that task and I know you are.
@@jmailbell Yes be mindful and do little research anyone who has never heard the above statement Never ever grab at a leaking pressurized hydraulic anything.
I would have LOVED to have a track press. Helping my Grandfather, from the time I was a kid, winter was overhaul time for all of the family construction company's heavy equipment, including the two old D7s. Some years it was turning pins and bushings, some years, we replaced them. Either involved an oxy/acetylene torch, a pin dog and a sledge hammer. First time I saw a pin press setup was at the Cat shop in Billings when I was about 16 or 17. Never understood why Grandpa was so against us just rolling up the tracks and delivering them to the shop to have the pins turned or new pins & bushings installed until I got a bit oder and found out what Cat wanted just to turn the pins in a set of D7 tracks.
I love a good old-fashioned safety brief and I think everyone else does too keep up the good work I'm proud of you
In 97 while drivin d9 track pins , a 22 bullet size piece left the pin , traveled 80 ' across the shop entered my Buddy's chin dead center and traveled to his carotid artery on left side of his neck and lodged adjacent to it . Emergency surgery to remove it and lots of swelling and discoloration. He missed 6 wks work atleast. An angel was surely present that day as it could have been final call .
Good video.
I totally understand and agree with you about the track press and track work.
I know just using a press in the shop, it is always serious.
I have seen how things can go bad just with 10 or 20 tons and up to 50 tons.
Safety is always primary when doing press work.
Thanks for sharing.
Take care, Ed.
Hay squatch I had a Dr appointment and was watching your channel a fellow patient said he watches your channel so just to let you know you are out there. Enjoy your channel keep up the good work you do
Hi Toby, oh, good heavens! I got mentioned in dispatches! Having seen that shattered pin I totally agree with you. If you ever really, really have to do this again maybe a steel shield and/or a pice of kevlar would not go amiss. When you showed that spiked piece I immediately thought of it piercing a carotid artery in the neck. Immediate unconsciousness followed shortly by death. Now I know why you stand where you do. Very wise. Once again, thank you for the pleasure you give with these videos as well as the very valuable archive of 'how to do it safely'. Cheers.
Now you can wear the MiD pin.
Oh hell just put a thumb in it like Scott from Kentucky ballastics when his single .50 cal blew up from a slap round.
Glad your press worked for you. And it is understandable why you would not want to do it for hire or loan out your contraptions to do it either. You have shown just what dirty and dangerous work it takes to restore that track and how valuable that work and components are. If ever I find a D2 to buy, I know what dragons await me!
Where I did my apprenticeship they used to be involved in agri work at an earlier time and had a track press mounted in a pit. The sides of the pit had plenty of shrapnel damage!
I was a track press operator for a Cat dealer for 5 years and did so many refurbs. Some of which were D11 tracks and boy oh boy disassembling cleaning and reassembling of those heavy tracks was a nightmare and I’m SO glad I don’t do that anymore. Don’t miss this one bit.
Working on a antique missile system. We were bringing it down when the hydraulics went bang. Less than 10 feet away. The sweat did flow
The weights of those track configurations blew my mind. I knew this stuff was heavy but being just a dumb city boy never having messed with this kind of equipment I had no idea.
Thanks for the video Squatch. It's hard to believe how much extra weight those wide track pads are adding to the machine. Thanks for explaining this
Worked at a welding an machine shop in my middle teens 72-74 during high school 15.5 to 17.5 years old. Cost of Oxy and Actyl was going up so boss wanted the hydraulic shears used whenever possible. Had a guy from business next door come in with a steel sheer type blade he wanted to make a knife out of. He was unable to drill a hole in it with their tooling and thought our old lathe operator might have some ideas. Well they heated it up cherry red and oil quenched it twice checking for ability to drill through it each heat and quench cycle. Drill bit could then scratch it but that was all. So he asked about using the punch function in the hyd shears. Unfortunately the shears did NOT have a manual alignment function to verify safe alignment. You had to power up the shear and as the hyd pump motor was winding down actuate it hoping for a slow response. The guy decided on an elongated rectangular hole punch with oval ends. The welder most familiar with the hyd shear and punch installed the punch set, think carbide or high tensile treated steel and I told the fella wanting the knife made to step back where I was putting the thick metal body of the shear machine between he and the new punch die set. He blew my suggestion off. There was a loud pop then I looked over at him to see his entire lower jaw had dropped and all of his teethe on that side before the bleeding became profuse. The piece found to be missing from the male portion of the punch was the size of a fingernail clipping from an adult’s little finger. And the piece from the female piece a bit larger went through a 3/8 or 1/2 inch piece of plywood about 10 feet away. His jaw cheek was opened from just behind where his lips join to near the large rear muscle of the back of the jaw. Had the piece hit him in the carotid artery or back of his throat there would have been nothing that could be done for him. He came back in the shop a few days later sporting a lot of switches and told me I should have listened to you, yep you should have but it could have been far worse he said I know. I hated those shears.
Almost 70 years ago , as a high school physics student my boss allowed me to check the torque on the drive gears on an Allis Chalmers HD 5 tractor . No torque wrench available so a very large adjustable wrench , tenfoot length of pipe, weighted four people on the grain scale , measured from center of shaft to the distance calculated refrencing weight of man standing on the pipe . when pipe came level with man standing on the pipe we called it good ! Wrench was bent enough that it would bust your knuckles if it was hanging on the wall and you looked at it hard ! That wrench lives in a dead furrow in an Ohio cornfield today at my behest !
Well, wow. Sir, your videos are quite a find. You present very well, you have data, specs and evidence at hand. No bullshit and to the point, honest and thorough. This is some first class content AND mechanicing. 👏
Customers are very blessed to have a guy like you around.
awesome video it's amazing how much wear them bushings had that they are all broken it must have run lots of hours or else in snow. The weight of the track really changes fast with the wide pads. It's a good thing that you didn't get hit with the pieces of the bushings that iron is so hardened it just chatters.
It does attest to the great design and manufacturing of these parts for them to take the wear and abuse, and still be recognizable. Thanks Toby
13:00, 13:03 , 😊 I'll Spill the Beans about this part of the episode. If I remember right Florin tractor comes through once again and gets a set of rollers for 5j 1113.!😊
Track work seen in your videos has made it clear to me that I’ll stick with rubber tired tractors. I love your videos, they are just so satisfying because you do things the right way, you are a glutton for punishment. Keepem’ comin’.
After first hand experiencing flying press debris.... watching this... I'm nervous for you. Even standing behind something I'd probably still catch something in the back from ricochet. You are one brave soul.
Smart decision regarding loaning out your track press as attorneys are always looking for work, if you can call it that.
As it is I love watching you work your way through stuff and putting you mind against the machines your out foxing thanks for keeping it real and honest about the dangers of pressing really trashed worn out parts
Another great "Class". I agree 100% about this kind of work. Not worth the risk to loan out the press.
When I worked for Cat, I guy almost died from track shrapnel. He was wearing a flack jacket at the time. Went through the zip area, nicked a heart vein...
This channel really deserves more subscribers…..great content
I had no idea what track bushing were, or how they exploded. Makes sense now. Would not want to be in the room when those shatter lol
What save me was the safety wire. Required in the military. The lock mech was dangling right in front of my eyes. WOA
Great video showing the safety concerns with these parts, they looked pretty sketchy but you were able to save the good and recycle the ugly!
Great video! I remember someone asking me with no experience to press a D8H track apart to turn the bushings. I certainly had enough experience with much heavier presses and dozers to realize that if i could reach my whole hand inside the bushing and grab the pins, rhat had already been turned once it was a resounding NO They asked if they could still be rotated 1/3! I was apparently too young to know anything, so they asked an old Cat mechanic. He said, "He shouldn't have said "NO" he should have said, "Hell No!" That's when he and i became good friends! Some people can turn a good machine into "Dozer residue" in one season, trying to pinch pennies they have tons of!
I’ve been a subscriber for I’m guessing over 2 years now and can honestly say that I never tire of the content because I always learn something. I also know you will always default to safety. Great video!!
Fifty years of track work. I would have torched them out before trying to press. Seen too many run the first side too far. The look on their face when you tell them the bushings and pins are junk is priceless.
" I Gamble On Yellow Iron." Love it, I have PC 150 with frozen tracks, this is coming.... Thank You.
Unless one had worked with a press they have no idea what kind of stored energy that is there when you start applying pressure. I remember during my automotive service days when I had a front axle rusted into a front wheel hub. Took the whole knuckle off the vehicle and put it in a 50 ton shop press. It was close to 50 tons when it let go, or to be clear the knuckle exploded! Luckily no one was hurt but it sounded like a bomb went off. That was the first and last time I attempted that. After that I ordered all new parts!
When I was up in Cape York Australia in the early 1970s, I saw "bush mechanics" doing similar work. They had a "cannon", about an 8 inch diameter steel billet with a hole. A pin would be put into the hole with a partial stick of dynamite behind it, with the fuse from the cap going out a small hole. The cannon would be "aligned" with the pin on shims of bits of wood., stone, whatever. When the dynamite detonated, the pin would strike the pin/bush and knock them out of the other side of the track. If the first shot didn't get it subsequent ones would. Reinstallation used a shouldered pin that would only "press" until the shoulder homed. The tracks were not removed. All was done on the dozer with the work area located on the bottom, mid way between cogs. This was done on remote sites where transport "South" would be weeks at best and 5/6 months in the "rainy season". New parts were light enough to be flown in.
Unless you've worked with a track press, you can't appreciate what it does. I've knocked pins out with a sledge before on site & it's a true pain. Glad those days are long gone. At the time I was working with a 941.
I very much enjoy these informative video every time I’m at a tractor show and see an old cat I have to go look at it especially if it’s a rd6
I was kind of surprised that the bushings had worn so badly and yet the links are still at 50% wear. It's clearly the bushings that take the most wear. Is it not possible to buy new pins and bushings for these chains?
@@squatch253 Thanks for taking the time for such a comprehensive reply. Running tracks in the snow reminded me of some interesting discoveries. Here in the UK is company making all metal 1:6 scale armoured vehicles, mainly tanks. I have built a Tiger 1 and a Sherman M4. They are serious bits of kit weighing about 350lbs and will easily tow a car on level ground with their 24v motors. We don't get much snow here in London UK but eventually we got a couple of inches which equates to 12" scale depth. The Tiger was useless in the snow, after only a few feet the snow had compacted in the multiple wheel arrangement and the tracks went very tight, threatening to bend a drive shaft or return roller axle. Now I know why the Germans suffered so badly with them in Russia and there are pictures of them running without all their wheels. The Sherman was much better but eventually the snow built up between the double horns where the rubber road wheels run, so also tightening the tracks. This said I know with the track chains caterpillars are different but it would be interesting to see one of yours perform in the snow.
@@squatch253 Good to hear you are also into tanks. I'm retired now but my career was in the UK Ministry of Defence test and evaluation. At the Royal Military College the officers did assessments of tanks sort of based on three things, fire power, protection and mobility and the trade offs between these. The US military had a thing called RAM-D reliability, availability, maintainability and dependability. Again loads of trade offs between these properties. There is a great set of You Tube videos from the Australian Armour museum with the restoration of tanks and the German machines look really complicated and difficult to work on. The Tigeer 1 has to be the most iconic tank despite its faults but one of my favourite is the T72
100 % agree Squatch keep it locked away till you need it again.
Hi Squatch I think someone has hacked your comments.they are asking me to message you on telegram to collect a prize.
If it is a hack could you warn others at the beginning of the next vid. Thanks Keep up the good work.
Exploding bushings! Rock crushers! Stump pulling! All cool stuff. Thanks
I am glad no-one got hurt. Thanks for the video.
That was a brilliant explanation of the hazards that could present themselves. More shielding would make it safer, but as you say, its hard heavy work.
oh god at my work I had to press apart a set of those links. apparently the steelmill uses those links for a conveyer or something like that. it was super sketch pressing the links out and it was a huge pain in the ass. we had to use our big 100 ton press to get the pins out.
There are many things that are best not done for other people. This is partly because of liability too. Good job. Good Luck, Rick
i was thinking about that carrier roller too, wondered why it didn't have one, good luck on your search!
Well done. I didn't realize they were bearings.
When I worked for a heavy equipment dealer I did one set of tracks before and said never again. I’ll change pads and such but that bullwork is for temp hires.
I was attracted to this channel….by the. .. name and numbers ..lol. .. I was an operator of many different machines over the years …. Many a time when something had to be fixed ..and didn’t have the right tool to fix the problem…. So one had to be inventive and make the tool , … fabricated some weird stuff.. and most of them worked .. lol . . .. SAFTY FIRST …. I still have all my fingers and toes… :o)
Good vid … nice work .. well presented…. Have a. Fun. Day. !
Toby, agree with your thoughts, even though we had a very large and powerful commercial press we still had to fit a safety cage around the business end. Working with new pins and bushes is a lot less hazardous but still the worn parts were still brittle and prone to exploding in the press when they were dismantled. At least you have shown the enthusiast that it can be done in a home workshop, I bet Kyle Christ might be interested as his old machine he is pulling apart will need a re-furbed chain
*- This might be the most important video ever done for the community. Kudos to you, Sir.*
*- Showing Why and How something is dangerous is so much better than saying it is so can ever be.*
*- The Shrapnel Remains you showed AND your effective explanations of why danger is present with this type of project, are very valuable, not just for the arena...it transfers to all areas in general.*
*- Should this video have its own Playlist "Safety Tutorial" label?
*- Would RUclips algorithms can pick up on that to the advantage of all?*
You are a very hard worker!! That was a lot of work but now you have a pretty good spare part inventory. That old Cat has a cool look!!! Well worn but mechanically sound. Great video!!
Your idea of making a track chain press worked well on decent pins and bushings. I will add that should you do them again throw a heavy cloth blanket (fire blanket/canvas) as a guard for potential exploders. Good video content.
Even a heavy cloth might not stop shrapnel. Personally I'd add some steel plates to the press for a shield that the operator can hide behind.
@@geraldschrader8511 True enough
looking at the fracture, that is a very fine-grained, hi quality steel, you could probably make lathe tools out of those scrap bushings. yeah the 16s look better, I would go with those.
I'm grateful for this video and your safety.
Just for your safety press blankets are put over equipment being press they are cheap compared to injury and they catch all the shrapnel if things explode.
Our big presses had polycarbonate shields. I made custom shields for some semi-automated equipment. Poly-carbonate survives impacts to a very high force. It is easy to drill, cut, and bend (heat it to bend) so odd shapes can be made.
For your use 1/4" should do, but if you want a little extra go with 3/8"
Looks just like plexiglass but plexy ain't poly so make sure to buy the real deal.
Well, they are both "poly"... Just one being poly (methylmeth)acrylate, and the other poly (usually bisphenol-A + phosgene) carbonate.
Like how there's also polyester, of which common ones are PET, PLA, and be Nylon. (Single-use plastic bottles, 3D printer filament, everything-where-fiber-strength-trumps-price/high-strength molded parts (with glass fiber reinforcement, premium-grade cordless drill housings, but it's very versatile.
@@namibjDerEchte
That may be, but one is highly impact resistant, while the other is not.
I am a welder fabricator, I am going to build a track press to turn the pins and bunching's on my D8 then I am going to weld on new grouser bars
Cool cat I have one in the woods complete just sitting ..lol
I´d like to get one of them run thru bushings. Just chime in- one of those in my shop over the bench would look nice and it´s got a solid backstory.
Thanks!
The dangers of press fitting or removing pressed fit parts is scary .Talk about shrapnel from a grenade this stuff can fly through cinderblock with ease !
You might drape something like a movers blanket over the top of the press so it hangs down loose. May not entirely stop fragments but will absorb most of the energy.
Glad you didn’t get hurt squatch I couldn’t even imagine getting hit in the eye by something like that we were bailing onnce and the fly wheel fell apart from the pto shaft the two major bearings that held in place blew apart and the fly wheel went across the field across the rd and came to rest in the neighbors cow lot lucky no one was in front of the bailer or no traffic and the cows were on the far side of the lot it was a ford bailer
If I were to do that job I would put a thick rubber blanket over the press area for the reason you showed us .happy to see all is well Denis from Santa Rosa ca
You're such a smart man to be so careful with this stuff.
I have a D4 with pins worn like that.
I won't be pressing them out any time soon, ever....
Yep, lot of force in a small area. I noticed you hydraulic press dnd tilting a bit putting side load on the bushings and pins. I would find me some bullet resistant plexiglass or glass to make a viewable cover to place over that open area.
Worked at a track shop once, the main guy was blind in one eye from a d9 chain bushing blowing up.
A shard the shape of a small sickle carved his face and took his eye out.
He was wearing safety glasses, running a professional Berco track press....
Them things are a scary piece of a kit..
Sure glad you're safe! maybe some screening is in order on it so you dont get carrier away and forget about it cause you are in a rush the next time
I'd just put a iron blast chamber and a baby camera around the press im looking at for bushing work on this old equipment good to know thanks might save my life with these cast iron wheels on my hay lift and sickle bar mower
We do that type of work. New and worn chains.
squelch 253 is a top draw restorer. and videoist.......super content ive learned so much...keep it coming...
I did mean squach not squelch predictive text gets me very time
I worked in a track shop.
Mostly D10 D11 but others as well.
When I saw what you were doing on an earlier video, I was thinking this may not go well.
Not to mention the proper tooling which you didn’t appear to have.
Pin release tools mostly.
Visiting junk yards with the search for multiple deployed air bags. Cut them out. Multi layer it to make a ballistic shield
You are always so conscience of safety , put a press in the mix, Murphy’s law who knows!! Scary to say the least , very good video, I watch you always staying out of the line of fire, behind the main frame, a press and big tonnage like you’re doing is always a bomb trying to go off if you don’t contain it! Great job of putting your point across! 👍
You have to be. That kind of tonnage is lethal if you're playing dumb games. The shop that does big dozer stuff for my outfit, they make their operators wear kevlar over pants, because even if they're protected behind the area of contact, if the parts shatter and fly about, they can ricochet. The owner even has a small wall section with a red line around it, where a dice sized piece of metal is embedded in the steel over foam wall.
It's three meters away from where the 50 ton press is located and considering it's behind benches and lathes, the only way it ever got there (they found it much later) is if had ricocheted against the floor.
Of my own experience, my brother was hurt during one of our repairs, he wasn't even near the press.
You just do not play games with stuff like this. Big machinery don't care. It's on Honey Badger levels of ain't care.
And then there is o'tools law. O'tool stated that Murphy was an optimist.
Man you are lucky! I had a Ball Peen hammer explode on me and the part that came off entered on the inside of my elbow and ended up in the base of my bicep muscle…yup and I only found out it was in there two years later when I had a XRay! At the time I had what I thought was a small nick on the inside of my elbow but then my arm hurt for a few days and that was it. I eventually had to have it removed because I needed a MRI ! I still have that piece of that hammer!
I have done many sets for 350 and 450 JD.
Happy holidays and new years
I worked in a machine shop and pressing the bearings from axles was very dangerous. Even with a wood block under the press to absorb the force it could drive some studs out of the flange. Frequently I'd have to torch bearings because the 40 ton press wouldn't budge them.
install a couple metal doors to flap down to retain any blown off pieces. Then you can side hustle safely.💪
Excellent video again! Keep up the great work. I seen a Fordson powered 1920 Galion Road Roller for sale on marketplace, and immediately thought of you.
Love your content man, recently found you. Keep it up. You should consider reaching out to a local Non Ferrous Foundry and ask if they can cast you the bearings and pins, if you want, they may even be able to make you some tooling for your press out of NiHard or a similar alloy.
In my neck of the forest we call that "Gernading" is there a market for this type of work, it kinda looks like something I could have fun doing.
I'm surprised that more bushings didn't frag. That's frightening. I'm sure you have a shield to protect yourself.
What if there was a big steel door arching the press alongside the one at the back? You do most of the work here from one side so one of the sides could be fixed with just a hatch to place the different pieces for the press. The hatches could be locked down in case you did need to access the other side. Even if it didn't stop the shrapnel, it would at least slow it down.
A mechanic shop I frequented had built a cage they used to cut the springs inside truck maxi pots. They had holes for the torch used to cut the holes and this springs. Made some pretty large bangs, but contained all the parts.
My idiot cousin got hit in head with one of those maxi springs. Then he was hit by a train crossing rr track in dump truck and was kicked in head by a pulling horse, not a riding horse but a horse like Clysdales bud weiser horses. He was a nut. I wouldn't know why. Roland was his name. Think he's dead now. Hate to talk I'll of tge dead but I'm sure he won't care. And he was my family so if family can't talk shit about family who can?
Interesting video. Thanks.
Hello Squatch!! Boy oh boy you certainly have a point about that track bushing/pin press work!! I remember a small part of my job at IBM East Fishkill, NY involved operating a 130 ton hydraulic press that was surrounded by a heavy metal cage with a door on the cage so you could do the necessary initial setup with bearings and such for heavy exhaust fans on 3 and 4 inch diameter fan shafts and other stuff. That press had me nervous a few times with the BIG BANGS produced by the items in the press!! We never had any breakage thank God or anyone getting hurt in any way, BUT that thing would have my nerve's rattled for the short time I would be using it!!!!!! Again thanks for the video!!
What where you pressing at IBM? From Across the river in Newburgh!
@@dantheman1998 A lot of different things from Small and LARGE Forklift parts, Axles, bearings and air supply fan and exhaust fan shafts from 2 inch up to 4 inch diameter and other custom stuff for buildings and other odd stuff.
That's a pretty slick set up for a homebuilt tool. I would not lease that machine ever. Good call. Thanks for the video.
True about dogs and machinery. My BIL lost a young pup of theirs after it got it's head in-between something. We teach our dogs to chase balls, sticks, and stuff, basically anything moving. That's probably not a bright idea if the dog is around industrial equipment.
Maybe a kevlar curtain would be a good idea. Maybe a used bullet proof vest to make it with? The uncertainty would make me nuts.
Put some blast blankets or ballistic mats as side curtains probably some old mud flaps would slow it down
honestly this sort of accident is easily avoided and we do this at work sometimes which is you just get a heavy towel and toss over it nothing will fly anywhere
Wow I have only seen 1 other set of tracks with bushings worn through. That was in the 60’s. My dad made a press using a cat ram and the 4010 JD tractor for hydraulics. Dad said the tracks worn so bad because of plowing it’s whole life.
I cant say as I'd blame you there Toby but I will say you've done a terrific job on all those track chains