Eddie and Moto’s runs were way more technical, balanced and steezy, in my opinion. Tbh I’m glad the judges aren’t rewarding tight spins that happen mostly below the coping, otherwise skating will go the path of roller blading and figure skating-where the best spinner wins. Now if the kid can build a line out beyond that like Shawn White, well, then he deserves to win.
Congrats to damestoy, but Moto should have had gold!! Man I watched and rewatch that run was super insane Nobody was doing what Moto did. Bet he was let down by his first score as I was.
@@Tenncup76 dog, there’s two sides to every story, and this has been addressed. Tony himself acknowledges that he was likely not the first to do the trick. Just the first in competition. And I know there’s question about whether or not the xgames officials were gatekeeping tas from competing, but look into what he was going thru during the time. He broke his back and his face, and was barely on the rebound at the time of that contest. Nothing was stolen from anyone. It’s like saying if I do the biggest kickflip that I stole the trick from Rodney.
Yes, that run seemed a bit underscored. He should at least have gotten the bronze, maybe the silver. He has been doing the same tricks for years, though. Maybe that have something do do with it. But Wilkins does the same run over and over again too, and was a bit overscored ... Great to see Tom Schaar getting a full run in. Vert is always fun to watch.
I’m quite shocked at the rulings today. Gui had an IMPRESSIVE run. And I’m definitely not on his bandwagon, I’m still a bit upset about his showboating last year, but the kid put down an impeccable run at the end there, and it deserved far above a 80.33. That’s just terrible ruling on the judges part. He should have cracked the top 3.
I'm pretty sure everyone there was a bit stunned as well... I mean they gave us a fifth run, and then took it away moments later. It was a weird competition.
I’ll be honest. I had to rewind it twice because I dazed out watching it. Somehow-and this is crazy to say-but it’s just not impressive anymore. He does flip his board some, but the steeze and intensity and technical tricks of the others are just more impressive.
I honestly think the showboating was made a bigger deal than it is. He's a kid who is the only person in the world who can land a 1080 on a vert ramp. Of course, he's going to get cocky. He got humbled by the judges, he learned a lesson, and now we're seeing him evolve some of his tricks more. Time to move on.
I understand that technical skills are also highly valued, however, given that Gui is out here doing 900s in his runs cleanly but only scoring 80s is weird. It's a very specific skill that rarely anyone else can do at all, let alone in a run, and that should count for something significant. Moto's run as well, while comprised of moves he's done before, was still incredibly impressive and very clean. That first run by Moto was absolutely everything; this was questionable judging at best, not sure what happened here.
Was it just me, or was the judging way wrong in this. I felt many athletes were robbed here. You can tell, and you can see in their faces. They know. Something is off here
BLIND 1 ft FS CAB to CRAIL Varial 360 making him turn FS cab 1 footed while grabbing CRAIL and spinning the board for the finished trick board spinning 540. I am a master of vert on XL and i specifically watch this and its just a glitch in the matrix to be honest- at least from my side of the game of life. 37 years of watching vert and not once have I ever said this trick could win contests as an ender if all you did was normal grab back n fortch bs to fs. and he did it 5th trick
I like Gary but the man has no business announcing a vert contest (as he will tell you). For once I would like to watch an x games with decent announcers and fair judging.
The favoritism is beyond ridiculous not only in this discipline but in moto x too. I’ve seen so many people get robbed in this x games edition. Shibata deserved at least 2nd.
Dude these judges need to be replaced! Gui lands a 900 and a fakie 720 among other bangers and gets what 7th? 8th? Absolutely ridiculous, Shibata and Gui should've gotten medals here and I doubt many would be able to argue against that.
I remember I was 13 back in mid 80 s I could hang with the big boys on the vert ramp in my town . It’s a feeling u can’t describe to skate big ramp at a young age . U feel like a king until u hang up on the Copin and spill to to flats and get injured like I did
The fact that this is like his 4th time covering vert, the dude could have at least learn more of the vert trick names over that time. Lack of professionalism
Gary is funny only with a script. Without it he just keep saying: huuu, haaaa, oooo, uiiiiii. Onodera finish his run without a single trick named. For exemple
I still don't understand how judges just don't care about Gui throwing 900's EVERY TRY... something nobody else even tries in the competitions. The same way they seemed to give zero f's about mitchie brusko's 1260... like wth is going on with judging at the X games
Yeah... they've seen it... like when Schaar threw 900's down in Vert Runs back in LA in 2012... 5 for 5 that Vert Comp. It's not rocket science, people. He'll grow and come back stronger. Good for his Best Trick abilities, but his Vert Runs have to grow. As for Moto, I saw that run in 2015 when he got Silver...
Gui and Moto should have placed. Moto doing stuff knobdy else can do and I get the 900 is old buuuuut who else can do it back to back to back in their runs.
That 14yo kid do a 9 and 720 in his 1st run, and only got an 80?.. these judges a hard to impress. They must be real skaters.... Btw that 11yo little dude is a straight monster to be getting air like that. Lol dang kid has almost grown into his board.
Buen campeonato para Leonardo Vinicius, se lleva la experiencia y además hace buen puesto, con tan solo 11 años solo puede ir a mejor y mejorar en su técnica y físico, paso a paso y con cabeza. Ánimos desde La Bañeza Campeón!!!!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🔥🛹🛹
Moto's first run was the best run of the competition. Gui was underscored but I think once you have a rep for being a "spinner" its hard to get rid of that rep. He's also not going very high on his more technical airs.
What’s with the judges not being able to name any of the actual tricks? Look at X Games footage from 20 years ago and they’ll shout out every trick within a couple of seconds
Yo anyone gonna talk about clay dislocating his shoulder, putting it back in and getting back up there?! I’ve dislocated my shoulder before. He most definitely dislocated that thing
Damestoy was not that good. His first run got a 90!? And then Moto got an 84 off a MUCH better run. Then Gui gets an 80!? What are these judges watching!? This makes nooooooo sense!
Imagine going back in time and telling Tony Hawk if he does a 9 in his run then a kickflip 540 2 hits later he would place 7th 💀
Super robed
Eddie and Moto’s runs were way more technical, balanced and steezy, in my opinion. Tbh I’m glad the judges aren’t rewarding tight spins that happen mostly below the coping, otherwise skating will go the path of roller blading and figure skating-where the best spinner wins. Now if the kid can build a line out beyond that like Shawn White, well, then he deserves to win.
@@KevinsDisobedience Way more technical lol. You couldn't even win a contest in the 80's without SPINNING a McTwist fool
Tony would do a 1080 off an 11 set….he doesn’t NEED vert 😂😂😂
Seems the fact his hit after was just an indy grab really hurt his score
I think they need to pick judges who aren't blind next time. Gui and Moto both totally robbed.
totally agreed
Yup it pissed me off
Came to the comments to read this. Gui's run was better than Wilkins'. Judgment based sports will unfortunately always have this..
100% true they were robbed
It's rigged to sell products. The judges have no choice.
That 1st run by Moto was incredible, literally jaw dropping.
Moto's run was underscored, but just wow - vert progression overall has really gone nuts over the past 10 years.
I don't even think the judges knew what to even do with those runs. Sick.
Congrats to damestoy, but Moto should have had gold!! Man I watched and rewatch that run was super insane Nobody was doing what Moto did. Bet he was let down by his first score as I was.
It was low. But didn’t have the intensity, speed, or grinds that Eddie’s had.
absolutely.
🎯
Moto Shibata got robbed. His run was incredible.
His hosoi 540s are so insane. Absolutely shld have gotten 1st
absolutely insane tricks he did, unbelivable, he got robbed asf, should have won and second Gui
Insane. It’s political, they screwed Tas pappas so tony hawk could steal the 900. Never forget
@@Tenncup76 dog, there’s two sides to every story, and this has been addressed. Tony himself acknowledges that he was likely not the first to do the trick. Just the first in competition. And I know there’s question about whether or not the xgames officials were gatekeeping tas from competing, but look into what he was going thru during the time. He broke his back and his face, and was barely on the rebound at the time of that contest. Nothing was stolen from anyone. It’s like saying if I do the biggest kickflip that I stole the trick from Rodney.
I usually tell people off for disagreeing with final tallies, but man this ruling just broke my heart
Can someone who understands vert explain why moto only got a 84.6? His first run looked insane to me
Yes, that run seemed a bit underscored. He should at least have gotten the bronze, maybe the silver.
He has been doing the same tricks for years, though. Maybe that have something do do with it.
But Wilkins does the same run over and over again too, and was a bit overscored ...
Great to see Tom Schaar getting a full run in. Vert is always fun to watch.
All I saw was the 540 kickflip indy and the 5 no grab... but I feel the judges got too excited too early... Moto deserved a better score...
right
Same feels
Moto will stand a great chance to win next one
Sketchy judging on this one. It killed the vibe big time. You can see it on the Skaters faces the whole jam session.
Exactly!
Moto,Edi and Gui on the podium
Gui's run was criminally underscored.
Absolut!!!
I don't understand why he didn't win?
@@bencoad1803 At least top 3
@@jellis7042 1: moto
2: Gui
3: IDK but Definitely not eddie
Leo's full pull was robbery and I've never seen the kid sk8 before
I’m quite shocked at the rulings today. Gui had an IMPRESSIVE run. And I’m definitely not on his bandwagon, I’m still a bit upset about his showboating last year, but the kid put down an impeccable run at the end there, and it deserved far above a 80.33. That’s just terrible ruling on the judges part. He should have cracked the top 3.
I agree. I thought that was weird. It was a pretty sweet run for sure.
I'm pretty sure everyone there was a bit stunned as well... I mean they gave us a fifth run, and then took it away moments later. It was a weird competition.
I’ll be honest. I had to rewind it twice because I dazed out watching it. Somehow-and this is crazy to say-but it’s just not impressive anymore. He does flip his board some, but the steeze and intensity and technical tricks of the others are just more impressive.
I honestly think the showboating was made a bigger deal than it is. He's a kid who is the only person in the world who can land a 1080 on a vert ramp. Of course, he's going to get cocky. He got humbled by the judges, he learned a lesson, and now we're seeing him evolve some of his tricks more. Time to move on.
Agreed. The judging was way off
Shibata’s run was absolutely insane he got scored like a Vegas boxing match lol
Moto got absolutely robbed.
I absolutely agree
i ran all the way down stairs to my car to bang my skateboard on the ground after motos first round, one of the best ive ever seen
I understand that technical skills are also highly valued, however, given that Gui is out here doing 900s in his runs cleanly but only scoring 80s is weird. It's a very specific skill that rarely anyone else can do at all, let alone in a run, and that should count for something significant. Moto's run as well, while comprised of moves he's done before, was still incredibly impressive and very clean. That first run by Moto was absolutely everything; this was questionable judging at best, not sure what happened here.
I feel the exact same way
It’s obvious that the judges don’t like what Gui’s doing, and don’t like him to win.
Shibata's run was almost as exciting as the legendary Bob run from years ago. How was that not in the mid-90s?
Was it just me, or was the judging way wrong in this. I felt many athletes were robbed here. You can tell, and you can see in their faces. They know. Something is off here
Motos first run was a 92.33
Definitely
BLIND 1 ft FS CAB to CRAIL Varial 360 making him turn FS cab 1 footed while grabbing CRAIL and spinning the board for the finished trick board spinning 540. I am a master of vert on XL and i specifically watch this and its just a glitch in the matrix to be honest- at least from my side of the game of life. 37 years of watching vert and not once have I ever said this trick could win contests as an ender if all you did was normal grab back n fortch bs to fs. and he did it 5th trick
cant believe moto didnt make the podium with the runs he put down
That Leonardo kid has it right. That should be the standard height of airs
I like Gary but the man has no business announcing a vert contest (as he will tell you). For once I would like to watch an x games with decent announcers and fair judging.
He’s done it the last few years. Pretty mush since they’ve ditched true big air and gone low budget. These things don’t get many views these days.
Yeah surely there are some old vert heads that can commentate and actually call the tricks accurately. He's just not the right guy for the job
Bring back Sal!
Amelia Bródka was fantastic in her commentary for Park, so I nominate her for full-time commentary lol
The favoritism is beyond ridiculous not only in this discipline but in moto x too. I’ve seen so many people get robbed in this x games edition. Shibata deserved at least 2nd.
There's got to be some Vert Veterans available for commentary.
Gui and moto deserved medals 100%....but hey im not a judge buuuuut thats my opinion and im sticking to it
Some seriously terrible judging going on here. Please refrain from judging future vert comps, whoever you are.
Amazing skating though, love it.
These judges like most in skate comps are always off the mark..
So true, I'm really wondering why the judges gave such a poor score to Moto, his run is simply amazing!
gui khury getting robbed out there
All his spins look the same, and not much variety with lip tricks. Shibata should have gotten the silver or bronze though.
yeah.. back to back 9. didnt make it to top 6.
Im brazilian and for me Shibata was robbed. His run was so difficult, gsus!
Not at all. Quite a boring skater needs a lot more power. A couple of years.
Shibata has been even more robbed out I think
The podium should have been Moto, Ghui, and then Eddie
I love the sportmanship in skating. No other sport has this in the same manner
This is crazy?! How?
Gui Khury 🥇
Leonardo Vinicius 🥈
Moto Shibata 🥉
Whats so hard about that?
Look at that baby flying in the air!
Moto was robbed 😢
Moto Sh. has clearly been robbed.
Dude from Japan won, come on, haven't seen a run that incredibly in a xgames since Bob's.
who shat in the judges pants like what were they on bc they underscored so many runs
Dude these judges need to be replaced! Gui lands a 900 and a fakie 720 among other bangers and gets what 7th? 8th? Absolutely ridiculous, Shibata and Gui should've gotten medals here and I doubt many would be able to argue against that.
Yes, as most were saying in the commnents, the judging was very suspect.
Moto literally on xgames mode
Gui definitely did the best run and should have won this. Absolute robbery. 😢
Nah, all he did was spin
I remember I was 13 back in mid 80 s I could hang with the big boys on the vert ramp in my town . It’s a feeling u can’t describe to skate big ramp at a young age . U feel like a king until u hang up on the Copin and spill to to flats and get injured like I did
Motos run ripped
no question on the Gold, but Gui's run should be at least a 85
At very least.
Yeah that run had at least 3 SUPER nasty tricks
guy khuri definitely got robbed, his run was amazing. a 900, a 720, barely any setup airs, and he's 7th? that's a joke
1*Gui 2*moto 3*Tom
Whatever that trick is Moto did @ 7:02... Absolutely insane, imo worth at least silver if not gold for that run
We need commentators who know vert tricks. All Gary can call out is a nose grind and a backside air 🤦🏾♂️ c’mon X Games
Please keep Gary on street commentary. He clearly doesnt know what he's talking about when it comes to vert.
The fact that this is like his 4th time covering vert, the dude could have at least learn more of the vert trick names over that time. Lack of professionalism
Nah bro, it's called a "woahhhhh"
@@robertzanetti6351 Woo! Throwin' down a 5. Wow! Back tail. Woah! Fakie 5. Yeah! Kickflip grab. My goodness. No grab 5. Oooh!
Moto Shibata! wow this guys got style.
moto got robbed. so sick of the judges in these contests making terrible decisions
that was some horrendous judging. Moto got absolutely robbed. judges on the pipe again
Gary Rodgers as a vert commentator must have been last choice because he doesn't know any of the trick names 😂
Straight up I want somebody on commentary who at least knows what frontside and backside disasters are.
Yeah Gary has no business being a vert commentator. I also came to say thos
agree... he seemed clueless on the allyoop mctwist and most other vert specific tricks
I know it’s cool to say 5 but after a while I just wanted to hear him say 540 one time. Also didn’t name one grab. ONE.
Gary, that there was an alley oop mctwist. Moto's gonna keep doing it, so try to remember...
Someone tell me how that was a 90.0 run compared to everyone else's run?
27:11 love Mitchie yelling "NO!" when he knows he's bailed lol
Gary is funny only with a script. Without it he just keep saying: huuu, haaaa, oooo, uiiiiii. Onodera finish his run without a single trick named. For exemple
But i love you on Sakatline. With your script of corse.
tony hawks 900 has become a childs play thing
Who else misses Bob burnquest bucky lasek and rune glifburg in these contest
They need Vertical Veterans as commentators. 80s & 90s pros. Nicky Guerrero would be good. He has a huge bag of trix. He knows the deal.
That kids Christ-Air was the move of the Competition!!! Fire!!!
I don't care anymore about the places, Gui and Leo Vini were the the most fun to watch
Tom Schaar what a great run 🛹and Moto Shibata wow!!!
Yeah, but to score Tom over Moto was a joke!
I still don't understand how judges just don't care about Gui throwing 900's EVERY TRY... something nobody else even tries in the competitions. The same way they seemed to give zero f's about mitchie brusko's 1260... like wth is going on with judging at the X games
Yeah... they've seen it... like when Schaar threw 900's down in Vert Runs back in LA in 2012... 5 for 5 that Vert Comp.
It's not rocket science, people. He'll grow and come back stronger. Good for his Best Trick abilities, but his Vert Runs have to grow.
As for Moto, I saw that run in 2015 when he got Silver...
“Gotta get that baby out the sky!” 😂…the future of skateboarding is bright 😎
I don’t understand how Gui didn’t podium, what’s happening here
ageists..
Building a fire. Make him the underdog. Even when he’s breaking new ground already.
Boring. Spin to win.
bruh how is having 900 and fakie 720 in a run gets you 7th place?? BRUHHHHH
Gui and Moto should have placed. Moto doing stuff knobdy else can do and I get the 900 is old buuuuut who else can do it back to back to back in their runs.
I love to see young promises that don't let vert skateboarding die
Khury got robbed
That 14yo kid do a 9 and 720 in his 1st run, and only got an 80?.. these judges a hard to impress. They must be real skaters.... Btw that 11yo little dude is a straight monster to be getting air like that. Lol dang kid has almost grown into his board.
No more BIG AIR, so Tom is back to VERT
Moto Shibata 6:55 - thrilling and stylish
Moto's crossbone at 25:17 is ridiculous.
Buen campeonato para Leonardo Vinicius, se lleva la experiencia y además hace buen puesto, con tan solo 11 años solo puede ir a mejor y mejorar en su técnica y físico, paso a paso y con cabeza. Ánimos desde La Bañeza Campeón!!!!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🔥🛹🛹
Popularity contest for sure.
Dude did a 900 and got an 80. I can’t with this.
Moto won that one.
Gui got screwed. These judges blow.
Gui is the goat… he should have won this event
why doesn't vert deserve properly educated commentators?
I think these announcers are friends with xgames crew. Gary Rogers is such a terrible at commenting. Cringe
Every single one of these phenoms are incredible vert skaters!!!!!!! I'm always rooting for my boy clay!!!
Actual commentary: "Yesss! Yooo! several seconds of silence...Word up!!" 😅🤦♂️
Moto's first run was the best run of the competition. Gui was underscored but I think once you have a rep for being a "spinner" its hard to get rid of that rep. He's also not going very high on his more technical airs.
Moto Shibata 1st, Gui Khury 2nd ..... change my mind xD
Ain’t no way… Moto 4th
This ain’t adding up… 😭😭😭
What’s with the judges not being able to name any of the actual tricks? Look at X Games footage from 20 years ago and they’ll shout out every trick within a couple of seconds
Yo anyone gonna talk about clay dislocating his shoulder, putting it back in and getting back up there?! I’ve dislocated my shoulder before. He most definitely dislocated that thing
Moto. 1st run winner for me.
Holy Smokes Moto's first run.
Moto won. His run was way more technical and creative. Robbed.
Damestoy was not that good. His first run got a 90!? And then Moto got an 84 off a MUCH better run. Then Gui gets an 80!? What are these judges watching!? This makes nooooooo sense!
Shibata’s first run was at least a 95. The back to back hard tricks made my gut wrench.
Shibata and Gui Khury aren't in the 90's club? That was a robbery. Next time it is better to hand out the medals before starting the competition.
Hopefully the judges had their canes returned to them after the competition
Guis 4th run was the gold medal run here. the run that won was some buullllllchit
Moto was completely robbed. Dude is crazy.
These judges were freaking brutal. Homie got 80.33 and did a 900 in his run
the first run of the shibata moto trick was so insane why did he take 2nd place
Beasts. These runs are killer
I never appreciated this discipline of skating till recently.these tricks are nuts man you gotta be gnarly
Shibata fue el mejor
Waw, amazing skaters ! Love how little Leo got fist bumped by the golden stringbean..lol. Legend and legend to-be meet up.
Gui Koury landed his 900 just under coping. Love the skating, not the commentary.