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I bought the A7RV for the screen, EVF, and better stabilization. Having great AF is just an added benefit. For what it offers, it’s an incredible value. Zero regrets!! I will never buy another camera without a 4-way screen - it’s simply amazing to use and makes you want to go out and shoot.
i went from an A200 after 10 years of usage to an A77M2, and I was astounded. 9 years later I'm still amazed. The A7R5 is the next step, and I would be happy enough with the A6700 if it weren't for the lack of buttons, the bad screens resolution and the bad 1/8000 FES rolling shutter.
I love sony and love using their cameras, but their lack of firmware updates to provide new features within their cameras is annoying. They literally could update most of their new cameras to have updated features but it feels like they simply choose to not do it... it's the Apple effect sadly 🙃
Yes, Just things like focus bracketing and Long exposure should be very easy to inplement in older cameras. Object detection Autofocus might be a Problem, because IT requires more computing power.
@@markus7440 definitely! I mean sometimes the updates they give are just barely anything. Lumix from what I’ve heard really do their firmware updates so nicely to help give the best for the camera.
Agreed. I don't own a Sony, but we also need to also take in account the processor. The logic built into it is designed to work with the current hardware. I'm not sure that throwing a software update to previous hardware would work well or perform exactly the same.
Sort of, but not really... Apple still provides updates all the way back to the iPhone SE & 8 (based in iOS 16). I agree on the lack of firmware. That being said, Sony could take a page from Apple on updates (or Tesla for that matter).
@@stkuj Apple doesn’t allow updates that work best with the older phones though. That’s how they kinda force you to get a newer one sadly. I’ve seen it plenty with friends with oder phones. But true, at least they provide updates consistently haha so they got that part.
I upgraded to an a7rv from an a7iii. Absolutely worth the upgrade. Feels better in the hand, love the flexibility of view from the screen, the EVF, the custom buttons and focus, the lot! I did worry files would be too big, but that 60mp sensor is my favourite feature of all. I use 20, 35, 55 and 85 primes (plus 70~200 f4) and the abilty to crop the sensor gives makes them all zooms. Fabulous camera. (I don’t do video) Thanks for all the ideas your videos provide. Great work.
4:28 no I don't think they can do anything about it because they built in an extra chip into the A7RV for the improved AI autofocus. The A1 does not have that extra chip so it isn't possible with an update.
As someone who has an A7S3, the only thing I'm kinda upset about is the Focus Breathing Compensation. I know a couple other RUclipsrs have also complained about it. I hope that + animal eye can come out this year in an update. Hard to be too upset about clean 12,800 ISO though.
I have been using the A7R5 since day1 release to market. Its an awesome camera chosen for its Auto focus, sticking power, and image. It has not let me down and its FAR MORE than a landscape camera (PL's words), it has a quality enough for faster movement. I am counting on it.
Nice combo of loving it and ranting, LOL! As a pro working for decades, I have one phrase for Sony to help them rule the world (beside "firmware updates"): voice-activated menus. Come on! Let's build some Alexa tech into our cameras so all we have to do is say "switch to spot focus" (as one example of dozens). The menus are so deep now and this would help so much with workflow!
4:34 Autofocus update for A1. This depends on the build in hardware of the A1. AFAIK A7R5 has a new AI chip dedicated for autofocus functionality. Eg. A7III never received the realtime tracking autofocus, simply because it doesn't have the hardware to handle it.
I thought you were going to rant on the A7RV, but as I watched the video I understood your frustration. If I had an A1 I would be upset there hasn't been a firmware update especially given the price. I picked up the A7rV and have been very pleased with it thus far. So far it feels like the first Sony camera that doesn't feel compromised (I'm not an avid video shooter) so that may be why for me. I also am pleased to have the lower resolutions as well. There are many times I don't need or want the large 61 meg files, and having 26 is plenty for less critical imaging but still plenty to make great prints.
I have been using my A7r V with a 35mm f1.4 lens shooting video of fast moving kids at f1.4 over Christmas. I was absolutely blown away by how well the autofocus worked for video at this shallow depth of field. Young kids never keep still, and the A7r V had no problems nailing focus every time. I also own an A1, and now hardly shoot with it, as I miss the new autofocus and the new articulated screen, particularly for vertical video.
I’m heading to Tokyo in a few weeks to take pictures. I’m thinking of getting a hotel in the Shinjuku district because of all the picturesque street scenes there.
I firkin LOVE my A7R5 ! I got the 24-70 GM and the 100-400 GM for it and I am having a blast. This thing is such a beast and well made. It's my first Sony and I'm in love!!
I agree Pierre. I have the A1 I was not going to order the A7V until I played around with one and the autofocus blew me away. So I ordered the A7V and in a way kind of feel ripped off that the A1 doesn't have this technology. I think they should do everything they can in a firmware upgrade but with the extra processor for the AI on the A7V, I don't know if they can. One thing I do like about the A1 better is the stacked sensor which lets me shoot and silent mode without worrying about distortion. The other day I was doing some street photography with the A7V in electronic shutter for silence and I got a lot of distortion with fast-moving subjects. So I guess the A1-2 is going to be the perfect camera where they'll try to suck 8K out of us! 😁
No companies will give us all the features as technologies cost a lot to develop. We will just be forever chasing in the next version. Sony will give us A1 MK II with all those A7RV bell and whistles.
This is the same thing in Motorcycle technology, 2024 has so many features, it lures you to buy the newest, same with mountain bikes, same with laptops, same with....
With human or animal eye tracking and a large spot or zone af area on my front shutter button on my a7iv and my R7 my camera usually puts a white square on the head or often the eye of the subject before I even half press the shutter. I don't have to hit any extra tracking button or anything else almost all of the time. Once in awhile I need a single-point AF and I have it on a back button when needed. The front AF tracking almost always takes care of it.
Sony cant add the ai auto focus into older cameras because it works with a dedicated ai processing chip but i agree you cause sony could add focus breathing comp to older camers but they refuse. Im not saying they have to update camers as far back to the original a7 but at least the current alpha camers. For example the a1 can stop getting updates when the a2 comes out.
Their lenses are bigger and more expensive in general. Sony GM are getting smaller and faster comparing to the other two big boys! So I think for a system as a whole, my bet to leave Canon was right with A7 / A7RII years ago.
The Sony A1 is nearly 2 years old and the A7RV has new hardware (an AI processor apart from the BIONZ XR) for its AI AF. The A1 can’t get the new subject detection behavior unfortunately.
The A7RV has a specific additional AI processor in conjunction with the main processor. The A1 doesn't have that additional processor, but it's still fantastic. My guess is that going forward, the higher end camera models will have the additional AI processor.
Dude i feel a bit of a remorse that i bought A7IV in September and did not wait for AR5, because this autofocus and improved atabilization would allow me to do much more night street foto. But i am a novice and had no clue some AR5 was coming and A7IV is still a beast so in love
@@RiposteThis sure i can and the results are great, do not pick me up on words. Just admiring the new stabilization on the R5. I have not reached the potential of this camera anyway, cannot wait to buy some primes like 35 1.4 and 85 1.4. My only prime lens at this moment is Sony 50 mm 1.8, the best entry level glass and it is so much fun for the night street photos.
There is always the one option available... sell what you have and buy new. The price hit can be substantial on some items, but you get the latest/greatest. I do this with iPad, iPhone and MBA. I no longer keep electronic past 2 years. I've worked out the math and I'm ok with it. I forget about the cost after a few months.
@@Richard.Cabeza thats an interesting thought. I used to do it with mountain bikes, none would stay with me more than 2 years and the price was substantially increasing with each bike...since i ride much less this last year and i started to tilt more towards photos, i might consider using this strategy in photographic area....but with camereas they do not depreciate that fast and i rather invest in lenses than in bodies...but i think i will end up with 2 bodies anyway, i think i will start shooting events
The hot shoe issue has been reported by many users. In truth, that's the potential weak area for even the best sealed body. My R5 did survive a dunking in sea water once, though. But one of the FStopper guys got his D850 rinsed by a rogue wave and it totally shorted out. So, be careful out there and get a hot shoe protector if you can find one that fits.
@@cristibaluta I'm no engineer but it sounds like a wiring design problem. If water does compromise the body, you want a warning before it gets bricked.
I've watched so many videos on the A7RV and the A1. None of them help me make the choice. I am looking to get another camera body and can't decide between the two. The autofocus and screen of the RV pulls me in, but the 30 fps of the A1 brings me back. I am hoping that an updated model of the A1 comes out, with the autofocus and screen of the RV. For those that have both, which do you prefer? I shoot a lot of wildlife and surf photography, but also do some portrait and landscape stuff. What do you think Pierre?
Dang this is exactly the dilemma honestly. Especially when you take into consideration price!! Try both if you can…. I don’t always use that 30fps burst and could do with 10 in my case and get the screen and ai af - but then the video is a bit better on the a1 from what I understand (rolling read out). For sport the RV will have distortion at high speed like tennis rackets being bended see online which won’t on the a1…
Actually 10FPS is plenty even for Sports and Wildlife photographers. The articulated screen and AI will come with A1 MK II. I don’t think A1 firmware update can give AI? So for now, A7RV is the best compromise.
@@Pierretlambert thanks! That 30fps when shooting waves would be great and the better video is another thing I want. Maybe I will just have to hold out for the next generation of the A1.
Yes a firmware update for the A1 is needed please Sony. If the AF is not as good as the A7RV, as the flagship camera the A1 needs to be brought up to speed. I would also like to see focus stacking as more and more of Sony's competitors are providing it.
Why would an older camera like the A1 have AF features that didn't exist when it was produced? Who adds new features to older models with firmware update. You bought the camera as is at the time of purchase. Only bug fixes would be expected by a reasonable person. These complaints are just childish!
This is just my opinion about my own work: I don't consider nailing focus or exposure to be the primary challenges in photography. Instead, I find the primary challenges to be composition, subject selection, lighting, perspective, etc., and these are things that I don't think technology can really do for you. Focus and exposure are the mechanics of what a photographer does, but I don't see a lot of people saying things like, "Wow! That exposure is terrific!" or "That shot is so well focused!" Focus and exposure are pre-requisites and it's important to do them both properly, but I don't think it is generally part of the "art form" (with some obvious exceptions, of course, as you can intentionally use both to create specific outcomes). For me, if I can get those mechanical pre-requisites out of my way so I can concentrate more on what a photographer ACTUALLY does, that's a win. TL;DR - Does the A7RV make photography too easy? For me, no...because I still have to choose the shot and tell the story. Sony can't do that for me.
People are missing the point here. Yes, the A1 has hardware limitations yet Sony refuses to drop the price of its flagship camera which in many aspects is inferior to the A7RV. The A1 should be adjusted in price to reflex that.
7RM3 died on me from 1 drop of sea water :). It was a small splash, a couple of water drops hit the camera - one drop goes on the cable for the screen, went inside and the main board was dead. Good thing I had insurance because it is an expensive fix. So - splash and rain are fine if you are careful but sea water is much more conductive and I will not risk it to gi near sea water without at least a simple plastic bag.
If you used the canon r3 which is not their flagship as they say (so what beast will be your flagship Canon!) has something in the viewfinder which sees your eye on what it is focusing!
The A1 doesn't have a dedicated chip/processor for auto focus. That's why it doesn't have the same capability of the 7RV. There are things they can add, but let's face it -- SONY is in the business of making MONEY. I have a feeling that all cameras that have been out there for a while will never see some of these updates (focus breathing, focus mapping, additional audio focus modes, etc.) not because they can't put them in there, but because they're waiting to include those features in NEW models coming out. Why would they constantly give existing customers all the latest and greatest updates (that firmware will support) for FREE when they can make people wait and then pay another $4,000 for a newer camera WITH those updates (and new features)? I'm waiting for a camera company to realize that they could sell these upgrades via PAID firmware updates, or maybe one day they'll attempt a "subscription" model for new features via firmware (bug fixes would still be free, hopefully). I shrug at the thought of subscriptions (I hate them, and avoid them)... but PAYING for added features via firmware update would be better than holding out for a whole new camera body every 4 years. Pay-for-updates might attract more consumer/prosumer adopters, while a new camera body every 4 years is more reserved for your professional class shooters.
It's really insane to not care about the customers to a point that a lesser model is more performant than a 2 or 3 times more expensive one that is absolutely not that old. De la fidélisation de clientèle au ras des pâquerettes.
Pierre you know it’s a AI chip in there right? We’re all gonna have to wait for the next in line from those specific cameras. I wish my a7iv’s had it but I’m cool either way.
I believe Sony can update the A1 to do better subject detection AF without the AI chip. But..... all future cameras will likely have the AI chip. Sony isn't going to spend extra resources writing code to make it work in prior cameras. Waste of resource from their POV. Better off focusing on new A1ii development etc. Though there are other great simple software features that the A1 should being their flagship....
Yeap. As mentioned below they can still make updates from speaking to engineers working on these not only in AF but also in ibis algorithms. Let’s not mention menus and breathing compensation 🥲🥲🥲
@@Pierretlambert Yes it’s crazy to me that they haven’t added breathing comp or focus mapping to the A1 and it’s the main reason I’m waiting on a Mark ii because the flagship should have EVERY feature from all the cameras especially at $6500 smh. Hopefully they do the right thing because it definitely made me not get one and another A7iv for my second body.
@@marcusgregory9571 all this boils down to resources & money. Sony can do it, but do they want to? IMO, don't think their firmware team is that big. They're better off working on the latest upcoming product than going back to the dozens of legacy models. Add features would each need time testing, quality checking, updating documentation and support etc. Cost resources and time that takes away new development. If Sony only released 1-2 models every 3 years it would be in the better interest to update firmware frequently. But, they pump out so many models every year.
@@Battlem0nk Business is business. Sony should not firmware update too often, otherwise, who is going ti buy new cameras? A1 is two years old, time to bring on A1 MK II!
The a1 is a old camera I don't think it has the same internals as far as focus capabilities so how is a firmware update going to help. The a7rv has a new update because they are trying to compete with canons autofocus which is far superior verses their older cameras including the A1 that's the reason for the new features. I'm quite sure moving forward the newer cameras will have this new AF feature.
It would be cool if Sony used camera user eye tracking to tell where you're looking in the viewfinder to pick the focus subject. Then expand that to a bluetooth range of sunglasses/eyeglasses that could pair to the camera and then have the option for an overlay and the ability to track where your eye is looking at and pick focus from that.
Not really needed as much with the AI AF in time as it will improve. The eye tracking AF like Canon is less reliable as friends have the camera and say it doesn’t work all the time.
You can change the exif data en masse with exif tool and it takes a few seconds to do hundreds of files. It's literally a non issue - just keep the command with an asterisk instead of the file name in a text doc, copy it when needed and execute in the folder you want to change: r. click on folder - open in terminal - paste - enter... wait 10 seconds and done. And the AF from RV isn't in A1 because it uses hardware that the A1 doesn't have. Would you prefer if they keep new tech just for the flagship release? Then the A1 still wouldn't have it, but the RV would also be a worse camera. Nobody wins...
The additional chip in the A7R V Is the difference. Firmware are essentially instructions for the chips. For sure future cameras will have this Ai chip.
The A7R5 seems tecnically amazing i just wish it had no rolling shutter when using silent electronic shnutter like the over priced A1. As far as the AI getting to where it knows where to focus. Canon already has a feature where the focusing will go to where your eye is looking when looking through the view finder. And Sony needs to copy that feature. As someone who has used an A7r lll for the last five years...i kept hearing about Sonys new ergernomics. So I went to a store to hold an A7r5 just to see how it felt in my hand ergernomicly. Expecting. To love it. But the first thing i noticed instantly is how much heavier it felt compared to my R3..it was a very noticable difference. and even though the grip is bigger. I didnt like the way it Felt in my hand. So i was disapointed. I fellt like there was even less room between my fingers on the grip and the lens. So the camera is bigger and heavier but still doesnt feel comfortable in the hand. But i loved the adjustable screen.
The AI focus already exists in the iPhone with prores/Raw images. The iPhone saves them as .dng and produces a "focusmap" on the picture of the subject, even including the objects they interact with. Ty Cheng has a great video about it. :)
Sony need to get better at their firmware feature updates, or better at releasing a generation of cameras together so there's a reasonable tiering to their cameras. Like the a1 was cool, but immediately the a7iv had a new focusing feature the a1 didn't, and the the a7rv with it's ai chip 🤷♂️
Dude you obviously love it, you literally mentioned zero negatives about the camera (few weeks missing support of raw files from Adobe does not count) you even put A7R5 to the piedestal of Sony cameras! Only sport shooting photographers shouls look elsewhere
Not to mention there crappy design and software menu. Have you ever tried to clean up an Sony after an hard field trip? Tried Sony for 3 months Backup and returned completely back to Canon.
sony last best support for firmware updates are sony a9 and sony a9II, except for that two units from the year they are the ultimate high end flagship sony mirrorless camera sony stop updating firmware for their cameras, if you want new features buy new camera and they will added also new hardware features like screen multi purpose on that sony a7R5 and the A.I. chipset on it, that sony a1 lack of that`s why I don`t think they will get update firmware from sony maybe they are working on the sony a1 mark 2 right now 😅
My only complaint about Sony cameras are their LCD screen is still low res compare to the market... other than that.. there is really nothing to complaint about.. for me at least.
Every sony model ( mirorless camera or cam coder) have this stupid problem with the hot shue when water goes inside it. I have the same problem on my Sony PXW-Z190 Handheld Camcorder and it's a real pain in the as*. They should make a menu setting from where you can turn this thing off
You're talking it the wrong way. Instead of complaining that a new camera is doing some things better than a much more expensive 2 year old camera, you should be like: "Wow it's amazing that we can spend less money and get more things, that's like anti-cripple hammer!". It also means that the A1 II will also have this AI chip, an 8 step IBIS, the 4-way articulated screen etc.
A1 does not have the computational power of the A7RV so no, it's not going to be possible to update it via firmware as it's a hardware limit. I do agree though that Sony are jipping camera owners with the lack of firmware and quality of life improvements. They're the top and know it. Arrogant company. At the very least the A1 and A7SIII should get the A7IV features.
I feel like they AI tracking is cool but I think it’s over kill feel like I wasn’t having to work at getting the shot. Party why I sold my a7iv to move to Fuji I love the tac-tile feel of adjusting ISO, SS, and F-stop
They do it on purpose i believe. Just for reason to push new cameras out. A1 is not necessary, R5 could be the best weapon. I have old a7iii and lack of features within new firmware drives me crazy. I don't want to invest more into a7iv or a7r5 when i see this approach.
a7RV has a dedicated AI processor. There is no firmware update what can replace that. If they do the same thing in cameras which doesn't have that dedicated AI processor it will be so slow which makes the autofocus unreliable.
Battery draining issues anybody ? My new A7RV runs out off juice after 2.5 H of customizing in the menu (and monitor, not the finder), and the whe body (and batterieS) get very warm. Or do you think that's normal ?
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Sir, which is better between Sony a6400 and canon eos 200d mark ii for all round photography?
I bought the A7RV for the screen, EVF, and better stabilization. Having great AF is just an added benefit. For what it offers, it’s an incredible value. Zero regrets!! I will never buy another camera without a 4-way screen - it’s simply amazing to use and makes you want to go out and shoot.
i went from an A200 after 10 years of usage to an A77M2, and I was astounded. 9 years later I'm still amazed. The A7R5 is the next step, and I would be happy enough with the A6700 if it weren't for the lack of buttons, the bad screens resolution and the bad 1/8000 FES rolling shutter.
I love sony and love using their cameras, but their lack of firmware updates to provide new features within their cameras is annoying. They literally could update most of their new cameras to have updated features but it feels like they simply choose to not do it... it's the Apple effect sadly 🙃
Yes, Just things like focus bracketing and Long exposure should be very easy to inplement in older cameras. Object detection Autofocus might be a Problem, because IT requires more computing power.
@@markus7440 definitely! I mean sometimes the updates they give are just barely anything. Lumix from what I’ve heard really do their firmware updates so nicely to help give the best for the camera.
Agreed. I don't own a Sony, but we also need to also take in account the processor. The logic built into it is designed to work with the current hardware. I'm not sure that throwing a software update to previous hardware would work well or perform exactly the same.
Sort of, but not really... Apple still provides updates all the way back to the iPhone SE & 8 (based in iOS 16). I agree on the lack of firmware. That being said, Sony could take a page from Apple on updates (or Tesla for that matter).
@@stkuj Apple doesn’t allow updates that work best with the older phones though. That’s how they kinda force you to get a newer one sadly. I’ve seen it plenty with friends with oder phones. But true, at least they provide updates consistently haha so they got that part.
I upgraded to an a7rv from an a7iii. Absolutely worth the upgrade. Feels better in the hand, love the flexibility of view from the screen, the EVF, the custom buttons and focus, the lot! I did worry files would be too big, but that 60mp sensor is my favourite feature of all. I use 20, 35, 55 and 85 primes (plus 70~200 f4) and the abilty to crop the sensor gives makes them all zooms. Fabulous camera. (I don’t do video)
Thanks for all the ideas your videos provide. Great work.
4:28 no I don't think they can do anything about it because they built in an extra chip into the A7RV for the improved AI autofocus. The A1 does not have that extra chip so it isn't possible with an update.
What we really need is a firmware update for the A1 to have the fully articulated screen from the RV. I’m sure it can be done! I love my RV 😄
Hahah yes please 🤣
As someone who has an A7S3, the only thing I'm kinda upset about is the Focus Breathing Compensation. I know a couple other RUclipsrs have also complained about it. I hope that + animal eye can come out this year in an update. Hard to be too upset about clean 12,800 ISO though.
I have been using the A7R5 since day1 release to market. Its an awesome camera chosen for its Auto focus, sticking power, and image. It has not let me down and its FAR MORE than a landscape camera (PL's words), it has a quality enough for faster movement. I am counting on it.
A7R series was never just a landscape camera!
Nice combo of loving it and ranting, LOL! As a pro working for decades, I have one phrase for Sony to help them rule the world (beside "firmware updates"): voice-activated menus. Come on! Let's build some Alexa tech into our cameras so all we have to do is say "switch to spot focus" (as one example of dozens). The menus are so deep now and this would help so much with workflow!
How about in low light, does R5 perform well?
4:34 Autofocus update for A1. This depends on the build in hardware of the A1. AFAIK A7R5 has a new AI chip dedicated for autofocus functionality. Eg. A7III never received the realtime tracking autofocus, simply because it doesn't have the hardware to handle it.
I thought you were going to rant on the A7RV, but as I watched the video I understood your frustration. If I had an A1 I would be upset there hasn't been a firmware update especially given the price. I picked up the A7rV and have been very pleased with it thus far. So far it feels like the first Sony camera that doesn't feel compromised (I'm not an avid video shooter) so that may be why for me. I also am pleased to have the lower resolutions as well. There are many times I don't need or want the large 61 meg files, and having 26 is plenty for less critical imaging but still plenty to make great prints.
I have been using my A7r V with a 35mm f1.4 lens shooting video of fast moving kids at f1.4 over Christmas. I was absolutely blown away by how well the autofocus worked for video at this shallow depth of field. Young kids never keep still, and the A7r V had no problems nailing focus every time. I also own an A1, and now hardly shoot with it, as I miss the new autofocus and the new articulated screen, particularly for vertical video.
I am sure A1 MK II will have the AI and articulated screen.
Glad you got to hang out with Chris!!
I have A1 and A7RV and if I shoot people I pick my A7RV but my A1 is my workhorse because of the NO banding on silent mode
I’m heading to Tokyo in a few weeks to take pictures. I’m thinking of getting a hotel in the Shinjuku district because of all the picturesque street scenes there.
I firkin LOVE my A7R5 ! I got the 24-70 GM and the 100-400 GM for it and I am having a blast. This thing is such a beast and well made. It's my first Sony and I'm in love!!
Hi, have you tried this camera with birds? I was wondering how would it work with longer lenses! THank you very much in advance!
They are welcome to update my A9!
I love my A9 for the B&W jpegs, which are better than my other Sony's and my Nikon and its downloaded profiles!
I agree Pierre. I have the A1 I was not going to order the A7V until I played around with one and the autofocus blew me away. So I ordered the A7V and in a way kind of feel ripped off that the A1 doesn't have this technology. I think they should do everything they can in a firmware upgrade but with the extra processor for the AI on the A7V, I don't know if they can. One thing I do like about the A1 better is the stacked sensor which lets me shoot and silent mode without worrying about distortion. The other day I was doing some street photography with the A7V in electronic shutter for silence and I got a lot of distortion with fast-moving subjects. So I guess the A1-2 is going to be the perfect camera where they'll try to suck 8K out of us! 😁
No companies will give us all the features as technologies cost a lot to develop. We will just be forever chasing in the next version. Sony will give us A1 MK II with all those A7RV bell and whistles.
This is the same thing in Motorcycle technology, 2024 has so many features, it lures you to buy the newest, same with mountain bikes, same with laptops, same with....
With human or animal eye tracking and a large spot or zone af area on my front shutter button on my a7iv and my R7 my camera usually puts a white square on the head or often the eye of the subject before I even half press the shutter. I don't have to hit any extra tracking button or anything else almost all of the time. Once in awhile I need a single-point AF and I have it on a back button when needed. The front AF tracking almost always takes care of it.
I do want to see that autofocus in something like the 33mp range of the a7iv. or include it in a new a7c with dual card slots
Sony cant add the ai auto focus into older cameras because it works with a dedicated ai processing chip but i agree you cause sony could add focus breathing comp to older camers but they refuse. Im not saying they have to update camers as far back to the original a7 but at least the current alpha camers. For example the a1 can stop getting updates when the a2 comes out.
I wonder how the A7RV compares to the EOS R5 - some reviews still favour the EOS' AF, which is interesting...
Their lenses are bigger and more expensive in general. Sony GM are getting smaller and faster comparing to the other two big boys! So I think for a system as a whole, my bet to leave Canon was right with A7 / A7RII years ago.
The Sony A1 is nearly 2 years old and the A7RV has new hardware (an AI processor apart from the BIONZ XR) for its AI AF. The A1 can’t get the new subject detection behavior unfortunately.
The A7RV has a specific additional AI processor in conjunction with the main processor. The A1 doesn't have that additional processor, but it's still fantastic. My guess is that going forward, the higher end camera models will have the additional AI processor.
Fantastic video! I’m noticing a slight difference in NC lot science compared to the a1, not in a negative way. Have you noticed this as well?
Hello sir, how do you edit your photos by setting there exposure and other things, as i can see in this video
Are the presets suitable for Canon or only for Sony?
Yooow thx for this man i really learn a lot on photography
Dude i feel a bit of a remorse that i bought A7IV in September and did not wait for AR5, because this autofocus and improved atabilization would allow me to do much more night street foto. But i am a novice and had no clue some AR5 was coming and A7IV is still a beast so in love
If you can't do it with the A7iv, it's you, not the camera. Sorry to break it to you.
@@RiposteThis sure i can and the results are great, do not pick me up on words. Just admiring the new stabilization on the R5. I have not reached the potential of this camera anyway, cannot wait to buy some primes like 35 1.4 and 85 1.4. My only prime lens at this moment is Sony 50 mm 1.8, the best entry level glass and it is so much fun for the night street photos.
I am using A7r3 and face/eye detect tech works great there as well. I am sure it is even better on r4!
There is always the one option available... sell what you have and buy new. The price hit can be substantial on some items, but you get the latest/greatest. I do this with iPad, iPhone and MBA. I no longer keep electronic past 2 years. I've worked out the math and I'm ok with it. I forget about the cost after a few months.
@@Richard.Cabeza thats an interesting thought. I used to do it with mountain bikes, none would stay with me more than 2 years and the price was substantially increasing with each bike...since i ride much less this last year and i started to tilt more towards photos, i might consider using this strategy in photographic area....but with camereas they do not depreciate that fast and i rather invest in lenses than in bodies...but i think i will end up with 2 bodies anyway, i think i will start shooting events
The hot shoe issue has been reported by many users. In truth, that's the potential weak area for even the best sealed body. My R5 did survive a dunking in sea water once, though. But one of the FStopper guys got his D850 rinsed by a rogue wave and it totally shorted out. So, be careful out there and get a hot shoe protector if you can find one that fits.
that might also be the easiest to fix with a software update, they just need to ignore whatever signal comes from there
@@cristibaluta I'm no engineer but it sounds like a wiring design problem. If water does compromise the body, you want a warning before it gets bricked.
I've watched so many videos on the A7RV and the A1. None of them help me make the choice. I am looking to get another camera body and can't decide between the two. The autofocus and screen of the RV pulls me in, but the 30 fps of the A1 brings me back. I am hoping that an updated model of the A1 comes out, with the autofocus and screen of the RV. For those that have both, which do you prefer? I shoot a lot of wildlife and surf photography, but also do some portrait and landscape stuff. What do you think Pierre?
Dang this is exactly the dilemma honestly. Especially when you take into consideration price!! Try both if you can…. I don’t always use that 30fps burst and could do with 10 in my case and get the screen and ai af - but then the video is a bit better on the a1 from what I understand (rolling read out). For sport the RV will have distortion at high speed like tennis rackets being bended see online which won’t on the a1…
And the 30fps only works on Sony glass.. limited to 15 for sigma
Actually 10FPS is plenty even for Sports and Wildlife photographers. The articulated screen and AI will come with A1 MK II. I don’t think A1 firmware update can give AI? So for now, A7RV is the best compromise.
@@Pierretlambert thanks! That 30fps when shooting waves would be great and the better video is another thing I want. Maybe I will just have to hold out for the next generation of the A1.
@@Needafollower thanks, didn’t realize that. Mostly shoot native lenses but that is something to think about.
This video made up my decision on buying this camera , thx bro for your content !!
Yes a firmware update for the A1 is needed please Sony. If the AF is not as good as the A7RV, as the flagship camera the A1 needs to be brought up to speed. I would also like to see focus stacking as more and more of Sony's competitors are providing it.
Does the a7r5 work with the sony eye focus well?
I Upgraded from the a7iv to the a1, without realising I’d be giving up good video autofocus. Hanging on for an update
Why would an older camera like the A1 have AF features that didn't exist when it was produced? Who adds new features to older models with firmware update. You bought the camera as is at the time of purchase. Only bug fixes would be expected by a reasonable person. These complaints are just childish!
This is just my opinion about my own work: I don't consider nailing focus or exposure to be the primary challenges in photography. Instead, I find the primary challenges to be composition, subject selection, lighting, perspective, etc., and these are things that I don't think technology can really do for you.
Focus and exposure are the mechanics of what a photographer does, but I don't see a lot of people saying things like, "Wow! That exposure is terrific!" or "That shot is so well focused!" Focus and exposure are pre-requisites and it's important to do them both properly, but I don't think it is generally part of the "art form" (with some obvious exceptions, of course, as you can intentionally use both to create specific outcomes).
For me, if I can get those mechanical pre-requisites out of my way so I can concentrate more on what a photographer ACTUALLY does, that's a win.
TL;DR - Does the A7RV make photography too easy? For me, no...because I still have to choose the shot and tell the story. Sony can't do that for me.
i had both and the a1 colors are so bad against the a7iv and rv
The A1M2 will be the perfect camera. The 50mpx stacked sensor with the AI (Autofocus) + Screen 😍 But I am very happy with my A7M4 and A7R5 😁
People are missing the point here. Yes, the A1 has hardware limitations yet Sony refuses to drop the price of its flagship camera which in many aspects is inferior to the A7RV. The A1 should be adjusted in price to reflex that.
7RM3 died on me from 1 drop of sea water :). It was a small splash, a couple of water drops hit the camera - one drop goes on the cable for the screen, went inside and the main board was dead. Good thing I had insurance because it is an expensive fix. So - splash and rain are fine if you are careful but sea water is much more conductive and I will not risk it to gi near sea water without at least a simple plastic bag.
If you used the canon r3 which is not their flagship as they say (so what beast will be your flagship Canon!) has something in the viewfinder which sees your eye on what it is focusing!
The new screen on a A7C2 would be fantastic
Going to Japan in 4 Weeks!
Can't wait!
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The A1 doesn't have a dedicated chip/processor for auto focus. That's why it doesn't have the same capability of the 7RV. There are things they can add, but let's face it -- SONY is in the business of making MONEY. I have a feeling that all cameras that have been out there for a while will never see some of these updates (focus breathing, focus mapping, additional audio focus modes, etc.) not because they can't put them in there, but because they're waiting to include those features in NEW models coming out. Why would they constantly give existing customers all the latest and greatest updates (that firmware will support) for FREE when they can make people wait and then pay another $4,000 for a newer camera WITH those updates (and new features)? I'm waiting for a camera company to realize that they could sell these upgrades via PAID firmware updates, or maybe one day they'll attempt a "subscription" model for new features via firmware (bug fixes would still be free, hopefully). I shrug at the thought of subscriptions (I hate them, and avoid them)... but PAYING for added features via firmware update would be better than holding out for a whole new camera body every 4 years. Pay-for-updates might attract more consumer/prosumer adopters, while a new camera body every 4 years is more reserved for your professional class shooters.
The AF is on a dedicated processor on the A7RV so A1 can't simply do a firmware update as its a hardware not software issue
It's really insane to not care about the customers to a point that a lesser model is more performant than a 2 or 3 times more expensive one that is absolutely not that old.
De la fidélisation de clientèle au ras des pâquerettes.
C’est très clair mais c’est la façon dont Sony gère… A priori le A1 et S3 auront un firmware update en Mars 2024…
Pierre you know it’s a AI chip in there right? We’re all gonna have to wait for the next in line from those specific cameras. I wish my a7iv’s had it but I’m cool either way.
I believe Sony can update the A1 to do better subject detection AF without the AI chip.
But..... all future cameras will likely have the AI chip. Sony isn't going to spend extra resources writing code to make it work in prior cameras. Waste of resource from their POV. Better off focusing on new A1ii development etc.
Though there are other great simple software features that the A1 should being their flagship....
Yeap. As mentioned below they can still make updates from speaking to engineers working on these not only in AF but also in ibis algorithms. Let’s not mention menus and breathing compensation 🥲🥲🥲
@@Pierretlambert Yes it’s crazy to me that they haven’t added breathing comp or focus mapping to the A1 and it’s the main reason I’m waiting on a Mark ii because the flagship should have EVERY feature from all the cameras especially at $6500 smh. Hopefully they do the right thing because it definitely made me not get one and another A7iv for my second body.
@@marcusgregory9571 all this boils down to resources & money. Sony can do it, but do they want to?
IMO, don't think their firmware team is that big. They're better off working on the latest upcoming product than going back to the dozens of legacy models. Add features would each need time testing, quality checking, updating documentation and support etc. Cost resources and time that takes away new development.
If Sony only released 1-2 models every 3 years it would be in the better interest to update firmware frequently. But, they pump out so many models every year.
@@Battlem0nk Business is business. Sony should not firmware update too often, otherwise, who is going ti buy new cameras? A1 is two years old, time to bring on A1 MK II!
The a1 is a old camera I don't think it has the same internals as far as focus capabilities so how is a firmware update going to help. The a7rv has a new update because they are trying to compete with canons autofocus which is far superior verses their older cameras including the A1 that's the reason for the new features. I'm quite sure moving forward the newer cameras will have this new AF feature.
Hey Pierre try to shot with an older Sony camera like the a6500 and show us some tricks 😂
Am I the only one who likes the RAW shots a lot more than the processed shots in this video?
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Same, some of the processed shots just have too much detail or "HDR" look, especially the backlit businessman shot
Always depends on tastes :)
That was a tough one on the edit I wasn’t sure to either crush my shadows or pull them….!
for the Sony a1 to get the new autofocus features, it'll have to be in an a1 mkII
Exactly
It would be cool if Sony used camera user eye tracking to tell where you're looking in the viewfinder to pick the focus subject. Then expand that to a bluetooth range of sunglasses/eyeglasses that could pair to the camera and then have the option for an overlay and the ability to track where your eye is looking at and pick focus from that.
Not really needed as much with the AI AF in time as it will improve. The eye tracking AF like Canon is less reliable as friends have the camera and say it doesn’t work all the time.
Ok, hate you right now. My new year resolution was “no new gear”. You’re making that very hard! 😉 that aside, great video!
I have the A7R V and bro going from a7 iii it’s absolutely amazing!
You can change the exif data en masse with exif tool and it takes a few seconds to do hundreds of files. It's literally a non issue - just keep the command with an asterisk instead of the file name in a text doc, copy it when needed and execute in the folder you want to change: r. click on folder - open in terminal - paste - enter... wait 10 seconds and done.
And the AF from RV isn't in A1 because it uses hardware that the A1 doesn't have. Would you prefer if they keep new tech just for the flagship release? Then the A1 still wouldn't have it, but the RV would also be a worse camera. Nobody wins...
The additional chip in the A7R V Is the difference. Firmware are essentially instructions for the chips. For sure future cameras will have this Ai chip.
I still think the Sony A7S III is the best buy...groundbreaking tech imo
Soon youll point press the shutter once and the camera will take 3-5 photographs in the fame with various targets in and out of focus. ❤
I totally love it!
The A7R5 seems tecnically amazing i just wish it had no rolling shutter when using silent electronic shnutter like the over priced A1. As far as the AI getting to where it knows where to focus. Canon already has a feature where the focusing will go to where your eye is looking when looking through the view finder. And Sony needs to copy that feature. As someone who has used an A7r lll for the last five years...i kept hearing about Sonys new ergernomics. So I went to a store to hold an A7r5 just to see how it felt in my hand ergernomicly. Expecting. To love it. But the first thing i noticed instantly is how much heavier it felt compared to my R3..it was a very noticable difference. and even though the grip is bigger. I didnt like the way it Felt in my hand. So i was disapointed. I fellt like there was even less room between my fingers on the grip and the lens. So the camera is bigger and heavier but still doesnt feel comfortable in the hand. But i loved the adjustable screen.
Sigh... my a7r2 after 7 years still feels good. 7 yrs later they still couldn't increase the video performance vs canon r5
The Ordinary Filmmaker just released a video claiming there is an update coming to the A1 to address this exact issue. Hopefully it is true
photographers make the best models
I only wished for, the original A7/R would have had that decent weathersealing..back into 2013.
The button on my A1 gets stuck often too so I just left it unlocked
The AI focus already exists in the iPhone with prores/Raw images. The iPhone saves them as .dng and produces a "focusmap" on the picture of the subject, even including the objects they interact with. Ty Cheng has a great video about it. :)
Where are you based if you are where I think you are we should meet up for a photoshoot
Sony need to get better at their firmware feature updates, or better at releasing a generation of cameras together so there's a reasonable tiering to their cameras. Like the a1 was cool, but immediately the a7iv had a new focusing feature the a1 didn't, and the the a7rv with it's ai chip 🤷♂️
Honestly I’d be happy if they just updated the creative profiles and added grain
I have the gh5 so having this would be a dreaamm
me too... and every time something new comes out I want to sell it.... several years on I still use it, but I'm not a video shooter...lol
Dude you obviously love it, you literally mentioned zero negatives about the camera (few weeks missing support of raw files from Adobe does not count) you even put A7R5 to the piedestal of Sony cameras! Only sport shooting photographers shouls look elsewhere
Depending on the sport... I'd add.
I love my A7ivs. I think 33 mp is a sweet spot for me.
I wish the M mode on the R5 would be 33 instead of 26 but 26 is also fine. Better then the 15 or want it is on the IV
@@crank6868 26 is great. I would be totally ok with 24 or 26. The 33 just gives me room to crop since I’m still a beginner
Not to mention there crappy design and software menu. Have you ever tried to clean up an Sony after an hard field trip? Tried Sony for 3 months Backup and returned completely back to Canon.
sony last best support for firmware updates are sony a9 and sony a9II, except for that two units from the year they are the ultimate high end flagship sony mirrorless camera sony stop updating firmware for their cameras, if you want new features buy new camera and they will added also new hardware features like screen multi purpose on that sony a7R5 and the A.I. chipset on it, that sony a1 lack of that`s why I don`t think they will get update firmware from sony maybe they are working on the sony a1 mark 2 right now 😅
Thanks!
My only complaint about Sony cameras are their LCD screen is still low res compare to the market... other than that.. there is really nothing to complaint about.. for me at least.
There's always a compromise. Higher resolution would have a negative impact on battery life.
Every sony model ( mirorless camera or cam coder) have this stupid problem with the hot shue when water goes inside it. I have the same problem on my Sony PXW-Z190 Handheld Camcorder and it's a real pain in the as*. They should make a menu setting from where you can turn this thing off
Two different hardware. I don't think you can fix the focusing by a firmware update.
AI Autofocus will not come to the A1 because it does not have a dedicated AI chip like in the A7RV so I am afraid you must sell your A1 ;)
I use capture one to edit
I wish I could just walk around and talk with my camera :D
You're talking it the wrong way. Instead of complaining that a new camera is doing some things better than a much more expensive 2 year old camera, you should be like: "Wow it's amazing that we can spend less money and get more things, that's like anti-cripple hammer!". It also means that the A1 II will also have this AI chip, an 8 step IBIS, the 4-way articulated screen etc.
A1 does not have the computational power of the A7RV so no, it's not going to be possible to update it via firmware as it's a hardware limit. I do agree though that Sony are jipping camera owners with the lack of firmware and quality of life improvements. They're the top and know it. Arrogant company. At the very least the A1 and A7SIII should get the A7IV features.
I feel like they AI tracking is cool but I think it’s over kill feel like I wasn’t having to work at getting the shot. Party why I sold my a7iv to move to Fuji I love the tac-tile feel of adjusting ISO, SS, and F-stop
They need to put out a firmware update for the A1 asap
AI is a new chip. Firmware update will not give AI function.
@@wingcreator i didnt say it would
They do it on purpose i believe. Just for reason to push new cameras out. A1 is not necessary, R5 could be the best weapon.
I have old a7iii and lack of features within new firmware drives me crazy. I don't want to invest more into a7iv or a7r5 when i see this approach.
Pic 2:09 looks good without editing.
If u got the A1 there's no reason to buy the A7RV, I like it but 6fps feels like my friend's canon reflex
Sounds like a rant of why you love the 7R5 😂
Your photos show that a good picture is not just good AF. So A7R5 is not a game-changer.
Avoid this seller if you're looking to purchase a used camera :)
Tokyo!?
a7RV has a dedicated AI processor. There is no firmware update what can replace that. If they do the same thing in cameras which doesn't have that dedicated AI processor it will be so slow which makes the autofocus unreliable.
A1 Mark II will have AI. A1 will not (I think not a firmware update can give you AI?)
The AI is on a chip that’s missing on the A1. They want you to buy the A1 mkii
I like my camera it is amazing to be honest until I can say there is no replacement for it and if something happened to it I am going to buy it again
Battery draining issues anybody ?
My new A7RV runs out off juice after 2.5 H of customizing in the menu (and monitor, not the finder), and the whe body (and batterieS) get very warm.
Or do you think that's normal ?