Takashi Iizuka on why we don’t see Hyper Sonic in anymore games - Sonic Discussion - NewSuperChris
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“There’s too many emeralds”
Chaos rings, seven world rings, and sol emeralds:
Austen Powers
What are chaos rings?
Is it a comic thing or am I forgetting something?
@@assaultapple6561 knuckles and the chaotix.
Durim Gjinaj they’re from knuckles chaotix
Don't forget the time stones.
Austen Powers true but all of them serve a different purpose and aren't made too power up characters, with the only exception being the sol emeralds which are there to be used only by blaze
Saying Sonic 3&K isn't canon is like saying Knuckles isn't canon.
3 and knuckles is canon, that statement about it not being canon doesn't make sense
@@BIastProcX it's mean that sonic 3&K combined into one big game as it was originally intended to be isn't canon and Hypersonic was added as a bonus
@@bucketbutters866 That's so dumb. Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles are both incomplete games, the only time you get the full experience is by combining them into S3&K.
@@MrAppleSalad yeah i know it's quite stupid
@@MrAppleSalad Why contaminate Sonic and Knuckles with Ice Cap act 1 and Carnival Night act 2? Play it separately.
Bruh sega shouldn’t worry too much on copy right with hyper sonic, like clearly hyper sonic came WAY before ultra instinct was even a thing
RASkid Sambrano
Super Sonic is based on Super sayajin during freeza saga,so Hyper Sonic being the evolution of Super Sonic,would make Hyper Sonic a SSJ2. Also if we talking copyright, Sonic being goku,Shadow is vegeta,and Silver is most definatly based on future Trunks(the wikia page mentions as much). so in terms of copy right strikes,Hyper sonic is the least of the dbz-similaritys,just saying.
LARS Liljeberg if that was the case, sega would’ve banned sonic a long time ago, and sega doesn’t want to bring hyper sonic back because they think it looks like ultra instinct not super sayajin 2
Shaquille ok sonic is different enough from goku but shadow and vegeta are pretty much the same with their attitude their roles and their precious little titles they like to also silver is basically trunks from dbz as said here
In SEGA's Sonic '06 game script spreadsheet file[2], there are character profiles written in corresponding English and Japanese that talk of their personalities and some of their origins. At the end of Silver's English profile, it says "(The below is all temporary) Essentially, think Trunks from Dragon Ball Z." info.sonicretro.org/Silver_the_Hedgehog
Plus it’s a know fact that the creator took inspiration from dbz not ripped off but was inspired and it’s pretty obvious he even admits it in the book the history of sonic the hedgehog
Johnetta Johnson That’s right! I’ve heard about that awhile ago
Shaquille Shaquille Shaquille ok first off calm down I’m not saying that sonic characters are the exact same as dbz characters popular to contrary belief I don’t believe that I’m saying that they were inspired by someone thing from dbz not a rip-off more an homage.
also for trunks whole thing...firstly he’s not 14.. don’t know where you got that from also his planet wasn’t destroyed as he was born on earth secondly they don’t have to go through the exact same thing for silver to be inspired by trunks character no a demon didn’t destroy trunks timeline the Androids did and they share the same role when sega themselves put essentially trunks from dbz in his bio it’s pretty obvious he was inspired by him and I know you said a lot of other things but the main deal is you want something from the Yuji Naka right? well it’s not based on the conversation here but there was an interview where he admitted that the blue spheres are inspired from king kai’s planet from dbz which he admits he’s a big fan of
shmuplations.com/sonic/
it has a lot of interviews so you’ll have to scroll a bit it’s when there talking about mega drive stories
So yes he has in fact admitted that he’s taken inspiration from dbz which again is obvious if pay attention also I get of your points but your acting like because their inspired that takes away from the series like yeah goku and Superman are pretty similar especially with goku’s new backstory but that doesn’t mean their the exact same
People saying super sonic was inspired by the super saiyan doesn’t mean it’s a ripoff just inspired same with the dragon ball and the chaos emeralds same with vegeta and shadow and same with trunks and silver
Iizuka said no more emeralds but they created the Sol Emeralds 9 years after Sonic 3 & K, also the Super Emeralds are referenced in Sonic Mania.
Frosty I understand where you’re coming from but you gotta realize that Iizuka wasn’t in control of the franchise back then. Also, the Sol emeralds were different as they came from a different Universe so it wasn’t as confusing compared to Sonic 3’s way of handling the emeralds.
Tan Potato
The Super Emeralds can be made only if you power up the chaos emeralds with the master emerald. There’s nothing confusing about it.
Whitehead also confirmed that the Super Emeralds are not canon, he stated that the "Super Emeralds" that were seen in Mania are just statues of the normal Chaos Emeralds. He said this on his Twitter. Way before Iizuka confirmed that the Super Emeralds are not canon.
Jambastion
Mania isn’t canon, so it’s not like it makes much of a difference what they say about it.
"Everything is canon." Aaron Webber
He also said that Mania is canon and that Encore mode as well as Mania Adventures are separate universes
Iizuka said that the moon rotated and that everyone had like amnesia, he also said that Shadow needed a chaos emerald to do chaos control even though Shadow has been shown using the ability without any emeralds.
I honestly think that’s just bogus.
The Super Emeralds are an enhancement to the Chaos Emeralds’ power. There’s no reason why there’s such a thing as “too many Emeralds” when they’re the same Emeralds but upgraded due to all seven resonating with the Master Emerald.
As the saying goes:
“The servers are: The Seven Chaos.
Chaos is Power.
Power is enriched by the heart.
The controller is the one that unifies the Chaos.”
By this chant alone, the controller can be the person using their heart to control the chaos, I.E. the Chaos Emeralds, along with the Master Emerald.
This control can be used to enhance the power of the Emeralds such as S3&K, or neutralize them and stop the Chaos Emeralds like in SA2.
Not only that.
“Power is enriched by the heart”.
Considering our main characters such as Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles:
- Tails has the late Super form in S3&K because his heart is still unsure of his potential.
- Knuckles has his heart and mind set on protecting the Master Emerald and the island. So it makes sense for him to achieve a Hyper form as well along with gaining incredible strength.
- Sonic is pure hearted. Being that he is, he gets the most powerful and most dramatic transformation out of all of them. Bursting with Chaos energy and power, it makes sense how he has this much power since thoughts can be turned into power by the heart, and his heart is always set on adventure, protecting his friends, and living life to the fullest.
There’s so much potential keeping the Super Emeralds with this in mind as well.
They’re really dismissing something truly great with this.
That may have been something special during the Genesis Sonic era, but as a present day almost everything about Sonic and his world is inconsistent and made quite complex. In other words, Sega cares very little about Sonic's lore. Sonic's world, the characters around him, and more often himself are constantly flip flopping as well as their identities. As nice that would be to keep Sonic and his history on track, Sega and the team behind Sonic aren't losing any sleep over a bit of emerald lore.
@@GottaFistDemAll Pre 06 lore was pretty consistant but with the implications from mania ( in one of knuckles boss fights you go to hidden palace and find some greyed out cracked stones where the super emeralds would have been ) you could make the head-cannon the emeralds were an one time thing.
Though i do think not having the emeralds at all in Forces was an missed oppertunity Super or otherwise.
Another Head Canon is just that sonic doesn't need them, Post sonic 3 & Knuckles there hasn't been an boss that could really damage super sonic aside from Solaris and he was still defeated.
I think that Hyper Sonic should return till this day.
we've also found " now sonic can become hyper sonic" text in the sonic mania file so they at least remember he existe, maybe they're gonna bring him back if mania get a sequel who knows
Plus If I remember, someone discovered a miss colored sprite of what appears to be a super emerald in the game’s code
This may not be accurate doe since my memory can be dusty at times
I think he actually was removed from the game because SEGA said that he and the super emeralds aren't canon anymore
@@agusperez5837 but the lore is still there
Manny Campos , true , and in the game you can find the temple where the super emeralds still lie , but just gray and cracked, meaning that it was probably a one time thing
Hyper sonic was probably supposed too be in sonic mania,I bet they planned for him to be there and izuka said no
The reason I say this is because I've also heard he is the reason why we didn't get completely new zones in the game
It’s a bummer that we don’t see hyper sonic anymore he needs to come back
I wish Hyper Sonic was in more Sonic games because he is Really cool! Really good video :D
I wish hyper Sonic want in more Sonic games too there may be similar form in dragon Ball super but still hyper Sonic should still be in more Sonic games
Why should Hyper Sonic not be in anymore Sonic games.
@GodZpeed X7 SHUT UP U HAVE BROKEN ME WITH 4 COMMENTS HYPER SONIC SHOULD COME BACK (runs away crying)
I don't buy it, it makes no sense from the perspective of Sonic's world. Too many emeralds? The number hasn't changed. The super emeralds are the chaos emeralds when in close proximity of the master emerald. All he had to say that Hyper Sonic could only be achieved on angel island due to the master Emerald's presence, and it would make complete sense. Instead they are throwing out a very important bit of lore just because they don't want to bother. Why didn't it happen in Sonic adventure? Maybe it had something to do with the angry water god called chaos which resides in the master Emerald. That makes more sense than what he said which didn't answer the question.
The Chaos Emeralds, the Time Stones, the Master Emerald, the Super Emeralds, the Sol Emeralds, the Chaos Crystals? (Although those were from Sonic Boom, so I don’t think those are canon either) but is that not a lot of Emeralds?
@@lowqualityvideos8091 not at all really, especially when the chaos and master Emeralds are a set and the chaos and super emeralds are the same thing. Different names same set of crystals. So all you really have are the chaos emerlds, master emerald, time stones, sol emeralds, and the phantom Ruby. That's not a lot of crystals at all.
Andres Marrero exactly! But I don’t understand why sets of similar items can’t exist or coexist? The reasoning for having “too much” of anything falls flat all the time, it’s just a poor excuse to not wanting to be organized. They can set restrictions or tbh just use all of them when the circumstances are right or redesign everything BUT the emeralds...they have so many options to actually make everything relevant without sacrificing any forms, emeralds, characters etc. someone needs to step up and make a change for once because the ones in charge right now are the reason why sonic hasn’t been doing great in recent years (besides sonic mania ofc).
I mean in Adventure when the Emeralds are all on the temple were pretty huge.
I want to see Dark Super Sonic in future modern Sonic games. That scene from Sonic X was so good and it's a shame we didn't get to see more of him.
Feels like Sonic games have lost something along the way, I just can't take them seriously. I wish for more games like Sonic Adventure or Sonic 06 in terms of seriousness.
Sonic Forces presented some nice features and the concept was great but it felt kinda...silly? The amount of gimmicks they put in this game was ridiculous, Chaos, Shadow, Classic Sonic ect. It was all over the place. I couldn't even call this a plot. The cutscenes were so awkward to watch too. Just give us a darker game for a change.
@@NewSuperChris Exactly what I think, I was really excited for Sonic Forces and I loved a lot of stuff about the game such as the soundtrack, the character customization, gameplay, and even Infinite was great! The game just failed to deliver a good apocalyptic atmosphere like Sonic 06 did. Overall it was just an okay game, quite forgettable with nothing really to make it stand out. I have high hopes for the next Sonic title though, Sonic's future now looks brighter after the movie.
While the Hyper form may not have first been achieved during the Angel Island incident, it IS hypothetically canon, because the Super Emeralds do appear in Sonic Mania when challenging Lava Reef Zone as Knuckles.
I do like Hypersonic but I think this Super form should be very Legendary and only needed by Sonic in very, very, VERY serious Situations and intense boss fights.
And I also think that copyright issues shouldn't be a big deal.
I agree. I also think Hyper Sonic should take a huge toll on the Blue Blur's health, even potentially causing death if he uses it for too long.
They need to bring back the hyper forms. Also they need to give Tails and Knuckles back their superforms as well.
Hyper Sonic should totally come back! I mean if we talk about if he's too OP then what about Solaris? Infinite? Perfect Dark Gaia? Hyper Sonic came waaaaaay before Ultra Instinct and the whole idea of the Super Chaos Emeralds is flipping awesome!! Either have him with white fur, purple eyes and a rainbow Aura or I wouldn't mind having him in flashing colors of the chaos emeralds. Either way..... Hyper Sonic should return in my view
I actually miss hyper sonic. We did almost get him in mania who knows we might see him again.
SEGA: we have too many emeralds
also SEGA: Time Stones, Chaos Rings, Seven World Rings, Sol Emeralds
His reasoning makes no sense since Blaze the cat harnesses the sol emeralds......
I really thought colors was going to have hyper sonic return especially because they said the wisps were more powerful than the emeralds and had "hyper-go on power"
Yes, I remember an unused voice clip of a surprised Eggman shouting that the wisps were even stronger than the chaos emeralds if I recall correctly. It really would be something to see that form return!
i refuse to believe the wisps are more powerful than the emeralds even if its canon
@@emerylsg i think that individually the wisps are alot weaker than the emeralds but there are only 7 emeralds and there's an entire species of wisps so eggman's planet harvesting scheme would ultimately result in alot more power
@@yellowpig1026 ok ok ill believe that
emerylsg thankfully we don’t have to accept it because it’s not canon! :)
Although, Iizuka also said that Generations isn’t canon even though it shows how Eggman discovered the time eater after Colors. I don’t think anyone knows what they’re doing.
I think Aaron Webber’s reason sorta fell flat. Mario has many different forms in terms of powerups and Nintendo never got sued for making MARIO have different forms through powerups (And let’s face it, it’s shares SOME similarities with the Dragonball franchise.) I know that it could possibly cause seizures, which is why if Sega would ever put Hyper forms back in Sonic games, they should either make him white, or blur multiple colors together. I also understand that there could be too many Emeralds, which is why Sonic can just automatically transform into Hyper Sonic through the Master emerald alone. Excalibur Sonic and The Werehog are probably not coming back as one of Sonic’s main forms, meaning that Darkspine Sonic and Hyper Sonic are the only OTHER canonical forms Sonic has, and I would love to see both return in future games someday even though it isn’t likely.
Tan Potato and hyper sonic was wayyyyyyy Before ultra instinct but how does that make it copyright
Agreed, they could just change the color to cause people with epilepsy to well not get killed
Hyper Sonic could be white with a rainbow aura.
Maybe if we're lucky we'll get to see Dark Super Sonic in one of the games- although I can't really see a situation *dark* enough for Sonic to go Dark Super Sonic happening in the games
I just want hyper sonic to return... it was just a good form. Hey at least we have mods for sonic mania where we get to play as Hyper Sonic Hyper Tails Hyper Knuckles Hyper Mighty and Hyper Ray
that so kind why hyper sonic is not in other sonic games and hyper sonic has other forms just like his friends also also your cool man. your the best.
Ngl if Sega was smart they would reintroduce Hyper Sonic in a Sonic Adventure 3.
Sonic Heroes is basically Sonic Adventure 3 since it has almost everything in it that happened in Sonic Adventure 2 so I doubt they ever will since we pretty much have Sonic Adventure 3
@@emmanuelharris6445 its not sonic adventure 3, its sonic heroes, just cause it was set after adventure 2 doesnt mean its adventure 3
@@raptorzeraora2632 Well that’s your opinion, mines make the most sense rather you agree or not respect it or just don’t say nothing else to me that it’s simple as that
Lizuka is just making excuses, if there were too many emeralds, why did he decide to make the soul emeralds and the secret rings. He's just ruining the sonic franchise
carlos ortega When the Sol emeralds were made, he wasn’t in control of the franchise. The Sol emeralds also come from another dimension so it isn’t as confusing compared to Sonic 3. The Seven World Rings were a one time thing and you know it, they had nothing to do with the Chaos emeralds either besides being a substitute to fit the narrative And I’ll have you know that Iizuka is the same guy that made the Adventure Games what they were. If it weren’t for him, there wouldn’t even BE a Sonic Adventure. He also came up with Colors, Generations, and directed Mania and Team Sonic Racing as well, and even worked hard in making Sonic Heroes what it was (which had a great level design but slippery controls) you can’t hold him accountable for the mistakes the franchise has made, especially when he had nothing to do with the major mistakes. So before you judge Iizuka, I suggest that you think about what he’s done for Sonic and the franchise because he genuinely cares. And no, he wasn’t responsible for Sonic Forces, he only worked on the concepts of the game
yeah excuses like that 2 worlds thing that was created just so sonicteam could have a excuse not to put humans in sonic games
“Too many emeralds”
Me: you sure about that?
One word: Seizures.
Sonic can do ultra instinct before goku in archie comics of sonic
honestly that reasoning makes sense. hyper sonic had a pretty good reason for existing initially, and that reason has basically become obsolete in recent games. at this point if they brought back hyper sonic i don't really know what they'd be able to do with it that makes it any more interesting than super sonic at the moment, i think it would just confuse new players or feel redundant.
if they have a good enough reason to justify bringing it back i'm all for it but i think it's better that they aren't trying to force something that wouldn't really fit for the time being.
Better question
WHY DONT WE SEE SUPER KNUCKLES?!
(Mania doesn’t count)
I miss Hyper Sonic and the Super Emeralds
Maybe hyper was removed so they could focus more on super, as having 1 super transformation makes it more exciting when it does happen
"There's too many"
If only Pokemon came to that realization
The epilepsy one makes sense, but the one being that it's similar to dragon ball z is pathetic imo
Anyway good video
Agreed. Simply slowing down the color rotation a little bit so it's not flashing would prevent the seizure thing.
tell him that
...yeah, because introducing new shit and then never acknowledging it again is keeping it "under control". I suppose that's the same excuse he'd use for:
-the Time Stones
-the Chaos Rings
-the Sol Emeralds
-the Phantom Ruby
So far, only the Wisps seem to have bucked this trend, and they're the most ridiculous of all. Hell, they're not even connected to the Chaos Emeralds in any meaningful way, despite the fact that they're the center of the lore. I mean, if the driving force in 90% of all the stories is gonna be "cuz muh emralds", then the least they could do is treat 'em as "sacred", if you will.
It isn't even unreasonable to expect the Master Emerald's door to swing both ways. How poetic would it have been if in SA Sonic had used the Master Emerald in literally the exact opposite way that Tikal did, mirroring his choice to face the problem at hand head-on instead of kicking the can down the road and trying to free Chaos of his rage instead of locking him up to ferment in it?
But rather than build upon the history that's already established, SEGA seems to be more interested in burying anything that could be "problematic"; that's why we'll never get another adventure-esque game, why some of the most important characters have been watered down to merely the butt of jokes, and why anyone blessed with the privilege of getting their hands on the damn hedgehog seem to have said hands tied throughout development.
If Sonic 3 and Knuckles isn't canon, why is it constantly referenced and even reused in later games? What about Sonic Mania?
They meant that the combined version isn't canon.
@@alexanderthemidI why would they make the original version cannon.
And this brings up some wrong things. Does sonic loose the chaos emeralds after launch base or did he never actually get them?
Did knuckles start in mushroom hill as in sonic and knuckles the intro scene starts there
Bro "are to simular to dragon ball" Hyper sonic?..... They must be kidding right
@@NewSuperChris oh aight then
Thanks, and keep up the good work
Yay!!
Izuka: because there is too much emeralds to collect
Me : and we love it
I just don't see the point of them making two super forms and not bring it back for future games/tv shows. Like, bruh😭
Woah I didn’t know that thanks for letting me know
In my opinion, I think all of Sonic's forms should be well known.
Anyone who says 3 and knuckles isnt canon is a fool. Hyper sonic is canon.
The real reason hyper isnt in games is cuz we cant have super emeralds without the master emerald and the shrine at angel island. We do see super emeralds in tikal flashbacks of adventure 1.
@@NewSuperChris look at the chaos emeralds above the pillars in the flashbacks. They look pretty big dont they? In fact if you play as knuckles and climb up to them, theyre bigger than he is! This, in my opinion, means they are super emeralds.
@@NewSuperChris i could be wrong and its probably just chaos emeralds made slightly bigger to be seen more easily. But i still strongly believe 3 and knuckles is canon. Super emeralds remains are seen in mania if you play as knuckles.
Weren't they also a different shape? I remember my old headcanon was that they were raw gems beforehand and became "cut" after absorbed by Chaos the first time. But I also like the idea that they were the Super Emeralds.
Imagine if Sonic Forces and Mania were like one package so when you Collected the Chaos Emeralds in both games you can turn into Hyper Sonic.
It took me 7 months to get a heart on this comment
about the emerald control, fast forward to now and we have seven world rings and sol emeralds.
An idea for a future video, could be discussing alternate versions of "Chaos Emeralds", such as: "Anarchy Beryl", "Sol Emeralds", ETC.
XD this video is an ispiration of the mine but Well Done.
“There are too many emeralds” Then why get rid of the Super Emeralds as opposed to the weaker Chaos Emeralds?
Chaos emeralds came first, that's why
Because the chaos emeralds are more iconic
IMO, I'd like to see Hyper Sonic be the final form that Sonic should only use as a last resort against a possible world-ending threat. If Sonic is Hyper for too long, then it could take a serious toll on his health, maybe even causing death if used for over an hour.
Hence, that's why he doesn't use it anymore.
love your contant chris
Would you mind sharing the link to the clip of Iizuka retconning Hyper? I need it for a script I'm writing!
I have a suggestion for a couple future vids: Can you put together a video about your five favorite pre-reboot Archie Sonic characters?
Also, can you please do a video about Ken Penders?
Ken Penders is the former lead writer of the Archie Sonic comic series and Ian Flynn's predecessor as Sonic comic writer, his tenure lasted from 1993-1994 to 2005, starting at issue 10 and ending at 159.
www.sonic.wikia.com/Ken_Penders
www.sonic.wikia.com/Ken_Penders'_legal_cases
Nice video,I wish hyper sonic was back
Bummer, I really love that transformation
Makes sense.
I think the super emeralds are from a different dimensions in sonic 3 because Knuckles don't mentions there in anything sonic games or comics and if he did that should be in the comic so I think sonic 3 and knuckles takes place in a different dimensions
Video idea :Could you talk about the misconception of Dreamcast Sonic being Morden sonic ? The main four reasons why biased sonic fans believed dreamcast and morden are same are
1. Design
2.Gameplay is similar without boost
3.Sonic 06 not being cannon because timeline being erased (which cause morden sonic to be born also generations dunked that topic)
4.A 25th anniversary video calling sa1 the start of morden sonic.
Counter evidence
1.Sega employee confirmed that dreamcast era sonic was planned but scrapped mostly cause by sega and ryan union issue. Unseen64 Sonic Generations for the evidence
2. Generations have 3 different eras
3.Final reason dreamcast sonic was design for new audience of current generation like sonic heros and sa1 an interview why sonic heros wasn't sa3 or else
Sorry if you feel I was going a bit too far there also your thoughts on this topic ?
First
I think XD
Good video
Great editing
Great script
It makes sense, I am fine with that. I didn't know the difference between the two besides his color, you were still OP regardless of which form.
Mugen Lord but you could be MORE OP and breathe underwater. But more importantly it’s part of Sonic & Knuckles lore connecting to their past
Not being or sound mean or rude, but it really doesn't, especially when their the same emeralds, with one difference.
Light, give me POWER!!! Well if you noticed Sonic 3 and Knuckles gives instances of revealing that there was another race a race of Hedgehogs. If you look in Hydrocity you can see sculptures of Hedgehogs like Sonic. The Hidden palace is not the same framework that Echidnas were known for building. In Sonic adventure we see mor Aztec like building while in Sonic 3 and Knuckles we see a more Greek/Roman style architecture. Notice the shrines from S3&K and SA are different. This reveals that maybe the echidnas were not the original owners of the emeralds. I don’t mean to bother but I’ll write more if you’re interested in this theory
@@Eman02kG I know, but it's interesting.
Takashi’s answer that he gave in the Q&A makes sense. The one about copyright doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. It’s Hyper Sonic. You get it by getting all of the super emeralds which came out waaaaaay before Super Dragonballs. If they’re talking about copy right they kept Super Sonic so bullshit.
@@NewSuperChris I feel like that Toriyama article was fake,I honestly don't think he would have cared since so many things make references to DBZ
My headcanon is that, like we see in Mania, the Super Emeralds were left as a husks due to Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles having used all their power and growing from it (evidenced by Sonic being able to beat Knuckles in his base form in Hidden Palace, when he couldn’t beat him in super at the start of the game; exposure to the super emeralds made him stronger).
As to why we don’t see Hyper Sonic anymore...It’s likely due to the fact that Sonic and gang don’t need them anymore. If sonic DID surpass his super form in 3&K then using the Chaos emeralds now would probably put him on the same level as Hyper. This is just a theory of mine however so take it with a grain of salt.
"There are too many emeralds"
Nah, Just make them an optional thing, that's all.
I had to agree it's also too much of a child to get even the other 7 animals that say grab the total of 14 even I can't grab all the super emerald I can only managed to grab five but it doesn't change the way I play Sonic games anyway I'm quite happy playing a supersonic but what I want to see again I want to see sunny turn back as the gold night from Sonic and the Black Knight
"Too overpowered" is such a joke because that used to be the intention of the super forms
1. You could display a eplalepsy warning for the game or changs hyper sonics color to a radiating white instead of a flashing rainbow and make the flash a ability not flash and just destoey enemies.
2. There are already many different forms of super sonic and hyper sonic was the 2nd one created.
3. Super sonic by default is overpowered so why is hyper any different. Its just cooler then what super offers
4. You can make super emeralds achievable in different ways then just doing 7 more special stages. You can have them as an 100% noncannon reward or have them be earn through a boss rush or a really hard challenge.
Frankly I dont see why other then theming need to put more effort in a pallete swap and a new ability.
These are all pretty terrible reasons. Hyper is extremely different to any Dragonball form other than maybe god (ritual) and UI (colour) which both came well after Hyper. If they wanted to make it less hard on the eyes they could either slow down the flashing or just simply turn him white with a multicoloured aura like people do in fan works. "Too OP" is fair i suppose, but why not just make an enemy that's powerful enough to require it. Imagine if Sonic went Super against a powerful foe and LOST, which required the others to gather the scattered emeralds and power them up to stand a fighting chance. You could make it so the Hyper form puts incredible strain on Sonic's body and because it requires a full on ritual he deems it not worth using every time. Save it for special occasions. Lastly "Too many emeralds"? Really? And yet you still decided to add the Sol emeralds, Phantom Ruby, Fake Chaos Emeralds, and more magical mcguffins than you can shake a stick at? Besides, the Super Emeralds aren't even technically different gems, they're literally just the Chaos Emeralds powered up by the Master Emerald, I don't see how that's so hard to keep track of.
The greatest irony is that Takashi Iizuka retconned the super forms to be possible only for male hedgehogs, aka the most sayian-looking characters of the series (hell, SEGA even confirmed Silver was inspired from Trunks), so the whole "trying to not be called a rip-off of Dragon Ball" argument falls flat. Also, personally, I think removing a form that does not seem to be based on Dragonball makes it look more like they are trying to copy it.
Hyper sonic and dark sonic makes sense when there's a vullan stronger than super sonic it will make a good video game story
To make Hyper Sonic work nowadays just simply have Sonic gain the seven chaos emeralds like usual and then just add the power of the master emerald to the equation. Also, did I just hear him say possible copyright issues at 1:50? Why would there be copyright issues? It's not the same characters nor the same terminologies used. You can't really claim the rights to context or concepts so there wouldn't be any copyright issues at all, even if someone found an excuse to sue.
"Sign....."
NewSuperChris: He's faster, stronger, invulnerable to all attacks,
Me: yeah yeah ok
NewSuperChris: he can breathe underwater
Me: HE WHAT??? 😲😲😲
I wanna see him appear again
That is my question , hyper sonic was always my favorite to play as.
I kinda wish hyper sonic was playable but I understand that they dont want to add him in. But to be honest they might actually add him in, in the future if they change their mind. But great video chris!
If anything Hyper SOnic rotating through all the chaos emerald colors ctually differentiates Sonic's up powered form from Dragon Ball much MORE than Super Sonic. There is no Hyper Sayan form. There is no Goku that turns all the colors. There IS however a yellow haired Goku, which look very close to Super Sonic. Bring back Hyper Sonic to a modern game.
In my opinion, the super emeralds are cannon, but they’re exclusive to only angel island, or in general just the presence of the master emerald. Without the master emerald around the emeralds are deemed useless.
Put it all back !!!! Need flashing lights like song "blinded by light"
What do they mean it’s similar to Ultra instinct? Hyper sonic was made way before ultra instinct was made
We should start a petition to bring back hyper sonic
I hope chris comes back!
I wonder if Sonic will get any new form that Sonic will get in the future
Calling sonic a DBZ rip off just for having a similar transformation to that of goku is like saying finding nemo is a rip off of spongebob because they both take place underwater
I agree with the 2nd rumor. Hyper Sonic would probably cause Epilepsy and Seizures.
As much as I love hyper sonic and want him, but they make a good point about the seizures part, he’s so powerful that he’s even dangerous for the viewers 😂
Actually, the right answer is explanation D.
*Sonic Team predicted the Super Dragon Balls and got rid of them ahead of time to avoid being a copy that predated the original*
2:30 but the super emeralds appear in the game they can be seen in the flashbacks of the equidna village
Hi Long Time no See huh?
Chaos rings,Seven World rings,Soul emeralds,Super emeralds,master emerald,Chaos Emeralds
So many..
Yeah we need to see Hyper Sonic for a change, love Super Sonic but come on we need this.
How cool would it be if a crossover between Sonic and Dragon Ball Z happened and all the characters got to interact with each other?
Eh, it makes sense. Playing as Hyper Sonic just makes platforming a bit harder, so perhaps using the Super Emeralds is more unstable in-universe, thus why Sonic elects not to continue using them after Eggman is defeated in 3&K. Personally, I think Knuckles used them to supplement the power the Master Emerald lost when Chaos was permanently freed from it, since we never really learned how it could float again after Adventure in the games.
Was Hyper Sonic the inspiration for mastered Ultra instinct? The forms look very similar.
@@NewSuperChris not to mention Sonic actually does have a ultra instinct transformation in the archie comics, only it's called ultra sonic not instinct.
Why is he still in charge?
We may not get to see the Super Emeralds, but instead the Master Emerald can super charge the Chaos Emeralds, which enable Hyper Sonic.
Or... Super Sonic simple turns to Hyper Sonic with the aid of the Master Emerald.
If they kept the Super Emeralds the number of emeralds for the Sonic games would be hard to keep track of.
To NewSuperChris,I Have an Idea For You,Why We Dont See More Games About Shadow The Hedgehog Or Team Chaotix Or Mighty And Ray Or....Tails First Meeting Sonic
And after q and a you should do history of Amy
If Sonic Network Do Modern Sonic Goes Hyper Form That's Will Be Good
They want to keep it away but they were sooo close to puting it in mania, for the people who got the game as soon as it came out, it was called Sonic destiny, and in the new version you CAN see it in the games files such as the word hyper, and a super EMERALD was in the code but then got scrapped but the flying ability was in the game and by putting in a certain code you CAN fly in all levels but put it in the music select (this is the code you'll need super tho, 20170815) Wich gets me wondering, is hyper Sonic getting in the devs heads, and wether or not they will think about using it
hyper sonic is beautiful