HOW TO REBUILD AN OLD DELTA TUB/SHOWER VALVE WITH DIVERTER

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2020
  • Join me today as we try to tackle "mission impossible"and replace parts on old Delta tub/shower valve

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  • @scottla5410
    @scottla5410 2 года назад +15

    Now I get why my plumber was talking to himself in the shower and was taking his sweet time. Great video and thank you for showing these details.

  • @MrGabrielallon
    @MrGabrielallon Год назад +39

    This tub is absolutely ruclips.net/user/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif . Great quality too. The perfect size for the space in our master bath!

  • @mikewaldroup3426
    @mikewaldroup3426 10 месяцев назад +7

    Great job Tim. As a plumbing contractor since ‘94’ I am all for repairing vs replacing. The old is much better made and designed to be repaired when needed.
    I always flush the lines by turning the main on for a few seconds to clean out the debris that has backed up over the years. I also lubricate the outside threads where the bonnet screws on with silicone grease or Vaseline for easier removal next time it needs to be repaired. I enjoyed watching someone else repair instead of me for a change. Thanks again for your channel Tim.

  • @johnmcdonald8314
    @johnmcdonald8314 Год назад +14

    One thing to note on the two small gaskets inside the valve. The springs go small end in the gaskets and the wider end go toward the valve.

  • @shovelhead8
    @shovelhead8 3 года назад +30

    Taking old stuff apart and fixing it is becoming a lost art. Thank you for for sharing your day with us, Tim. Stay safe and stay cool

  • @carriesanders1607
    @carriesanders1607 Год назад +6

    You’re a lifesaver!
    Our house and showers were built in 1982 and don’t have cartridges. I appreciate you showing this and saving me a bundle.

  • @sherijacobsen9629
    @sherijacobsen9629 2 года назад +7

    Can't thank you enough for this video. My valve was leaking through the shower head causing a constant drip. Upon taking the cover plate off a manufacturer's name was nowhere to be found making it darn near impossible to ascertain what rebuild kit to purchase. I'm a retired mechanical engineer so most projects I do myself, but your video showed me what to expect once I disassemble it. I had searched through many videos, but it wasn't until I searched with the key word "ball" that I found yours.

  • @richardgay7524
    @richardgay7524 19 дней назад

    I appreciate you . Thanks for passing on your knowledge. You've helped me tremendously. ❤

  • @jmb3450
    @jmb3450 Год назад +4

    Thank you, thank you for the great how-to on this. My daughter owns a very old house in Buffalo and every plumbing issue there is a new adventure for me. You helped make this one a success so much appreciated sir!

  • @grepodstfj
    @grepodstfj 8 месяцев назад +2

    thanks, you saved me hundreds of dollars, one trip to home depot $14.00 for the diverter and 5 bucks for the washer the plumber wanted 60 bucks JUST TO COME OUT

  • @sassvin2085
    @sassvin2085 Год назад +1

    Thank you for your insight tim.. you made my life easy.. I think I'm actually a plumber at heart.

  • @janetsullivan5597
    @janetsullivan5597 7 месяцев назад +2

    glad I found your channel bc I have this model and it's been impossible getting this bonnet nut off. was starting to think I was crazy

  • @clairgervais7503
    @clairgervais7503 2 года назад

    I'm all for "fixing" when possible. Loved the video, I have the same situation, my son will fix it. Thank you for the video. :)

  • @plumbbuild6517
    @plumbbuild6517 3 года назад +1

    Nice job Tim its been a long while since I messed with the old delta shower valve I just rebuild a old kitchen sink delta just resent, but thanks for the video and stay safe and have a good weekend.

  • @djorlando57
    @djorlando57 2 года назад +4

    I watched 5 videos before I turned that bonnet nut and none of them had the warning, so of course I bent it. I didn’t break the pipes in the wall thank God, but yep I now have a crooked stem. It was hard to find a video with the ball stem, they are all cartridges today :(. Thanks for making this video, I think yours was #20 that I saw. And glad I finally got the bonnet nut off using CLR soaking it overnight . Cheers

  • @rharland1066
    @rharland1066 2 года назад +3

    Thanks Tim. Same problem here in the Philippines. I'm happy to get new fittings, but the new model means cutting a nasty hole in my shower room wall. But your video has inspired my Filipino plumber to try and fix the old part, thus sparing the need for a hole in the wall. Thanks a lot.

    • @waterheaterservices
      @waterheaterservices 2 года назад

      Plumbing in the Philippines is....amazing. Gingoog City, Mindanao.

  • @PhilKneeland
    @PhilKneeland 2 года назад +1

    Great advice on how to repair these old beauties!

  • @dannyb6968
    @dannyb6968 2 года назад

    Perfect video for the project I've got to do.
    Thank you for sharing.

  • @roy7240
    @roy7240 2 года назад +3

    Great Video!! set of deep well shower/plumbing sockets make that diverter much easier to remove, that bonnet comes off easier if you remove the plastic ring first, Delta provides the tool to remove the ring in some of the rebuild kits or you can use needlenose pliers, I also stretch those springs just slightly before installing, I've seen some really old Delta parts because these are serviceable valves. They don't make them like they used and now I prefer Moen

  • @richardrussell4601
    @richardrussell4601 Год назад

    Thanks so much! House built in 1973! You helped !

  • @AZOverland2017
    @AZOverland2017 2 года назад

    Extremely helpful video. Thank you!

  • @PeterpanPeanut
    @PeterpanPeanut 2 года назад +1

    Just the motivation I was looking for.

  • @marielahernandez129
    @marielahernandez129 3 года назад +1

    thank you i have ecxatly that water valve and i followed step by step what you did it was perfect !!!

  • @marcl2427
    @marcl2427 3 года назад +2

    Would be nice to learn under someone like you for a few years

  • @LA-ly9mq
    @LA-ly9mq 10 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video. Only tip I have is to use a seat/stem wrench on that tub diverter. It fit's right on there and will prevent you from having to chip tile or do extra work. Will definitely help save your fingers from that sharp tile too!

  • @robertreifsneider5314
    @robertreifsneider5314 Год назад

    Totally convinced me to get a plummer. :) Mine is exactly like that, except with a ton of scale on it. I was able to get about 1/8 turn on it, but could not tell if it was the bonnet nut or something behind it.

  • @fauxque5057
    @fauxque5057 Год назад +3

    The nut for the diverter valve that you had to bust out some tile to use an adjustable wrench for is easy enough to remove. A simple thin wall deep dish socket and a 1/4" impact driver spins them right off. Same tool I use to repair the outside water spigots. No need to destroy anything in the process

  • @josephsmith9663
    @josephsmith9663 2 года назад

    Thankyou I did that diverter around a year ago, used a deep socket and extension. Doing the top part know same delta. too old to tackle without your help thanx.

  • @JOne0442
    @JOne0442 Год назад

    Thanks for the video sir. God bless you.

  • @stevieray7920
    @stevieray7920 2 года назад

    You twisted the tubing in the back. Cool video.

  • @jasonscroger5065
    @jasonscroger5065 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video - going to be doing the same exact version - also have a window in the same place lol

  • @tylerwelch5253
    @tylerwelch5253 3 года назад

    thanks for making this video tim

  • @rapidrhinoplumbing-monrovi3269
    @rapidrhinoplumbing-monrovi3269 3 года назад +2

    Great Video Tim. Try Aero Kroil penetrating oil in a orange and black spray can. 100 times better than WD 40 or liquid wrench. Then tap valve body lightly with small ball peen hammer to spread the lube thru out valve body. i have taken things apart I never dreamed i could take apart with it. You can buy it at amazon or a good HVAC supply house. DD in Los Angeles

  • @Matthew-su5ho
    @Matthew-su5ho Год назад

    Dude, you saved me some money!!!

  • @joshmorgod
    @joshmorgod 3 года назад +1

    Thank gawd. None of the other videos showed this type. I'm in here looking for another collar.

  • @schradog01
    @schradog01 3 месяца назад

    This was helpful. Thanks dude

  • @marsbar2020
    @marsbar2020 3 года назад

    Thank you Tim for posting, mine is the same style and I was stuck when I got to removing the ball assembly, was thinking it was a cartridge..Its not dripping anymore

  • @rebeccawebb2022
    @rebeccawebb2022 2 года назад +1

    Thank you. Replacing my parents tub, 32 year old house. Needed this!!!

  • @thecreativeoutdoorsman981
    @thecreativeoutdoorsman981 3 года назад +2

    Cool cool stuff. Thanks

  • @BOSS_805
    @BOSS_805 4 месяца назад

    Nice to know you saved a customer some money but most us plumbers would have just replaced that shower diverter and got a good payday out of it

  • @sarahannefountain4847
    @sarahannefountain4847 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you! Thank you so much! What should I do to stop water from coming out of the tub spout when I push the converter and the shower comes on?

  • @deucedecker4903
    @deucedecker4903 3 года назад +1

    Today I had the same issue getting the same dome nut part off on the exact same faucet. Finally, I bought a strap wrench and it came right off. I highly recommend it.

  • @jamiee434
    @jamiee434 2 года назад

    That was a great video

  • @ronm8471
    @ronm8471 Год назад

    Invaluable information! This is my shower hardware and it needed repair. Now it can be done. Any part numbers or do I just look more closely at what you posted?

  • @rednecksforjesus5065
    @rednecksforjesus5065 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the video. We need the parts numbers and also how you installed the rubber seals and springs please.

  • @ForgingFreedomTV
    @ForgingFreedomTV 3 года назад +3

    Great job! I just paid $450 for labor on a water heater install. I personally brought the water heater in for the guy and drained and hauled out the old one. Feeling pretty burned. Never again.

    • @cpe1704tks.
      @cpe1704tks. 3 года назад +1

      Yep. Know the feeling. Watch YT, gain confidence and you can do it yourself.

    • @marvellstarks2434
      @marvellstarks2434 3 года назад +4

      You didn't get burned. You just cheap. That's a super great price.

    • @ForgingFreedomTV
      @ForgingFreedomTV 3 года назад +3

      @@marvellstarks2434 I highly disagree. I did 90% of the work. The guy tightened two fittings and broke one of my existing pipes

    • @Davidbodyspam
      @Davidbodyspam 9 месяцев назад

      A water heater install is $2788 in the Midwest. You are smoking that sheit 😂

    • @ForgingFreedomTV
      @ForgingFreedomTV 9 месяцев назад

      @@Davidbodyspam could you be more specific?

  • @ronm8471
    @ronm8471 Год назад

    I had a great deal of scale and initially could not remove the retainer ring (the exterior piece with notches). Used an old toothbrush to make multiple applications of vinegar. Waited at least 30 minutes. Using tongue and groove pliers, easily turned the ring for removal.

  • @carloschuby
    @carloschuby 10 месяцев назад

    THANK YOU ! GREAT JOB !

  • @TheSchwiz
    @TheSchwiz Год назад

    Great video. I have two of these in an old house I bought and I hate them. They don’t have any real ability to control the temperature accurately. You have to move the knob super super slightly otherwise it’s too much. If I replace the parts like this will it help? Or should I just rip out the entire thing?

  • @carlossoto582
    @carlossoto582 3 года назад +1

    Stem wrench will help to remove the diverter. Even a deep socket wrench

  • @john_wisdom
    @john_wisdom 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video. After I reassemble, water shoots out of where the lever is. No matter what I do same thing. Any suggestions?

  • @MindfulMusic
    @MindfulMusic 3 месяца назад

    Can you list the parts used? I have this same setup. Delta faucet on shower from the mid-80s.

  • @BARBERFAMILY2011
    @BARBERFAMILY2011 Год назад

    Great video! I just dealt with one of these today, and in my valve the bottom hole is missing the metal sleeve that the other two have.

  • @jamiee434
    @jamiee434 2 года назад

    What lube to break it down did you soak it in and what grease did you use? What if there is a lot of dry hard water lime ? Can I use a dremmel tool for cutting and socket set for the nut?

  • @OneManParade
    @OneManParade 3 года назад

    When I put a retaining nut back on. I always apply plumbing grease to make it easier to get off the next time. What's your opinion on that? Am I waisting my time doing that?

  • @MOMO112382
    @MOMO112382 Год назад

    Awesome video! Question. I have the same old Delta unit that you’re removing. Seems to be working fine. BUT, I’m looking at ways to adjust the Hot water setting. Does the old model Delta have a Hot water setting? Thx

  • @ezequielcandelario2906
    @ezequielcandelario2906 2 года назад

    What happened with that spring you pulled out? I didn’t see you replacing it.
    I have exactly the same problem with my delta bathtub shower no water is coming from the shower head out after I push in the diverted. Do you think is the cartridge that needs replacement? I replace the diverter but the problem persisted.
    Anyway, great video Tim I learned a lot.
    Thank you very much.

  • @zachcoleman6285
    @zachcoleman6285 2 года назад

    One of my favorite plumber on RUclips
    Nothing beats a repair plumber
    You don't always have to replace... Better to Save the customer money and the pain of watching drywall be cut out
    Great work, as always

  • @Ojames600
    @Ojames600 3 года назад +1

    Great video, where can I purchase that shower valve repair kits ?

  • @wedah7331
    @wedah7331 Год назад

    What is the white circular plastic thing the ball arm goes into?
    I can't find the exact one anywhere and I need that one.
    Thank you so much for this video!

  • @Othermails08
    @Othermails08 2 года назад

    So helpful! I wish I’m his neighbor!

  • @susanconway3515
    @susanconway3515 3 года назад

    I have the same exact shower with the ball type and plastic knob. I want to switch to a lever handle. Can it be done or do I need a whole new kit. Thanks

  • @clemsonrugger
    @clemsonrugger 3 года назад +1

    a 7/8" deep well, 6 point socket fits the push-pull diverter valve.

  • @IrreversibleJackets
    @IrreversibleJackets Год назад

    Hey Tim, can you realistically put a plug on the old diverter port in order to put in a different tub nozzle that has a pull plug on it to activate the shower?

  • @McShizzle85
    @McShizzle85 Год назад

    did you need to tighten anything for the handle? I saw a video where someone needed to make some adjustments with a strange tool in order to make the handle not wobble. thanks!

  • @greyghost1962
    @greyghost1962 2 года назад +9

    Nice video. i wish you would have shown the part numbers on the bags espcially for the seat and spring kit for the delta ball.

    • @markmayhew7285
      @markmayhew7285 2 года назад +1

      Master plumber D-9 Master plumber D4-A

  • @moziz212ny
    @moziz212ny 2 года назад +1

    When you talked about how the ball socket is not centered, how would you fix it? On mine the springs and seats are way more tilted then your video.

  • @gregbrady8454
    @gregbrady8454 Год назад

    Cool, I have the same faucet. My diverter leaks. Where would I buy the diverter by itself?

  • @elguapo5467
    @elguapo5467 2 года назад

    You took out the old springs and washers but didnt show replacing with new ones? Just curious if there were any tips to cleaning the small seats or what kind of grease to use.

  • @DianaGreenland-qp6wk
    @DianaGreenland-qp6wk 11 месяцев назад

    What kind of lubricant did you use? Wd40?

  • @networkguru1984
    @networkguru1984 3 года назад +5

    Hey Tim - I’ve replaced everything just like you did - the leaking bath tub faucet was leaking when in the off position. Now that I’ve replaced all springs and seals including replacing the plastic ball with a stainless steel version - the leak when in the off position is fixed - HOWEVER now water shoots out the new handle when the water is on. 🤦‍♂️
    I’ve cleaned it with a wire brush. Verified the springs went in correctly - verified the seal on the ball assembly is tight and has no debris - what am I missing?
    Thanks in advance!

    • @p8ryot
      @p8ryot 2 года назад +2

      A little late I know, but did you ensure the small plastic tit on the cone shaped cover over the stainless ball/stem stayed firmly in the slot to the left side (as your looking at the front) before and during screwing in the outer chrome finish piece. Also did the rubber cup washers seat firmly in the holes, before inserting the stainless ball/stem? I've rebuilt many of these over the years and that's where I've found leaks.

  • @wesallen4228
    @wesallen4228 Год назад

    Nice. The diverter does not totally shut off tub water. Not sure what to do or if that is normal. What do others say?

  • @DANIAC262
    @DANIAC262 Год назад

    Do you need to shut the water off to replace the diverter?

  • @ReneeDj3
    @ReneeDj3 2 года назад

    Perfect for knowing that it's just my diverter!

  • @lynnkliem6323
    @lynnkliem6323 2 года назад

    We want to keep the Delta shower valves but update the shower fixtures. OK we found the Delta series 600 tub and shower renovation kit which works if your shower faucet does NOT have a diverter. Unfortunately, our has a diverter but they do not make one with a diverter anymore. The recommendation is to cap off the diverter and change out the tub faucet with one that has a diverter. I would appreciate your expert advice.

  • @slk230red
    @slk230red 6 месяцев назад

    Love your videos Tim! On this particular repair, it looks like you didn't adjust the ease of the ball movement. Looks like it takes a little more effort to move the knob left/right and up and down. I have to tweak mine so my wife is able to operate the knob without straining.

  • @boostedninja
    @boostedninja 11 месяцев назад

    What model is that. I have the same and I need to replace the cover and knob

  • @mwlaser1
    @mwlaser1 Год назад

    ok I have the same kind without the diverter , had a slight drip, where can i get new springs and seat and oring, , House was built around 94

  • @jeniferwizdom7424
    @jeniferwizdom7424 3 года назад

    Im rebuilding mine, but as I put the ball in, its loose . I wonder ... will it tighten once water pressure gets turned on?

  • @championplayerdo7604
    @championplayerdo7604 7 месяцев назад

    I did all of that and half of my water is still coming out of my spigot. When I removed the old diverter valve it looked like it was new but I still changed everything all the bushings Springs everything lubed it up good and half of the water is still coming out of this spicket! Do you have any suggestions on what needs to be changed

  • @61spindrift
    @61spindrift Год назад

    Nice job and thanks for posting. Question though, why did you not use a deep well socket to take nut off diverter. Is it that plumbers generally do not carry tools like that. BTW, I am an auto mechanic.

  • @robertbeekman3480
    @robertbeekman3480 2 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @kirkniles4184
    @kirkniles4184 Год назад

    Is it possible to put a plug in the diverter and just use the tub spout diverter

  • @mack9208
    @mack9208 2 года назад

    If I remove the diverter and plug it up can I then switch to a spout with a diverter on it

  • @patriciadevi2
    @patriciadevi2 2 года назад

    My valve stem doesn't have a hole and the same as what you showed slid off after 2 years. I ordered new knob/handle but don't know how it will stay put.
    I opened the cover to screw the knob but doesn't stay on and not sure how the old one stayed on either.

  • @BrentMillerDad
    @BrentMillerDad 3 года назад

    Thank you for this video, I just came across one of these and am going back next week. What kind of solvent did u use to loosen the bonnet nut?

  • @Stanley123456890
    @Stanley123456890 10 месяцев назад

    How did you put the black things in with the springs?

  • @TheThornton33
    @TheThornton33 8 месяцев назад

    Question guys… no plumbers tape or pipe dough? Overkill on a project like that?

  • @davidadams6992
    @davidadams6992 2 года назад

    Hey Tim I live in a townhouse and we have that same faucet. I have asked maintenence to fix it 3 times in the past 2 yrs can you guide me on how to do it myself?

  • @cathyb4152
    @cathyb4152 2 года назад

    How did you get that nut off the ball? I need to do that so I can replace the seal. Thanks.

  • @MYBARRASEVEN
    @MYBARRASEVEN 3 года назад

    Thank you

  • @dougsledge4285
    @dougsledge4285 Год назад

    Try slipping a fernco over those stubborn bonnet nuts, tighten the hose clamp on the fernco and +/- 90% will twist right off

  • @Luis-ck9eo
    @Luis-ck9eo 7 месяцев назад

    Your video helped me so much. The issue I am having is that the new assembly does not allow the knob valve to turn toward the hot water :-( . Any suggestions anyone?

  • @jdmcmudy
    @jdmcmudy 3 года назад

    Thank you!! 🙏🏻

  • @terriatwell4041
    @terriatwell4041 2 года назад

    I wish you were in my city. I have an almost identical situation-1950 house, Delta lever faucet, and plumber is saying have to cut I to the wall and remove the old tile to replace. Didn't even offer to try and repair. Quote is over $500 to start . The hot water is not staying hot-keep having to turn up and then run out. Replaced the water heater so it must be the valve. The whole bathroom is tiled with original tile so this is going to be a sad mess.

  • @Gabriel-le9rc
    @Gabriel-le9rc 2 года назад

    How many springs do you take out in my case two jumó out from that part 🙈

  • @matthewcriss29
    @matthewcriss29 Год назад

    What will make the water deverter not release when you turn water off?

  • @marvellstarks2434
    @marvellstarks2434 3 года назад +2

    That's a bummer I was really hoping you show the very important part of putting the seats back in correctly

  • @JT-rc7vx
    @JT-rc7vx 3 месяца назад

    Did you give them the option of putting a new body in like an R10000? Cuz' fixed or not, that thing is still a hot mess.😢

  • @Omek1972
    @Omek1972 4 месяца назад

    I need to do this today. The bonnet makes me nervous.