Personally, I think it'd be really fun to see you do this type of video on Thorn, Scarlet, Sundew and Tamarin. They all have pretty unique personalities that I desperately wished were discussed about more!
This is gonna be good! Deathbringer is probably the most involved character of Arc 1 other than the 5 protagonists. And his Winglet: Assassin was such an amazing story that explained his origins so well!
Edit in case anyone is still here Deathbringer and Glory is an official ship that Tui herself confirmed and they later had a dragonet named Firefly. She also retconned the time periods of Assassin and the Dragonet Prophecy so their ages would be closer together so it's not considered pedophilia.
In Winter Turning Winter said that Deathbringer was a FEW years old older than him considering Winter was 5 and a few years mean 2-3 it means that Deathbringer was around 7-8 Its a shame Charcoal is this uninformated about Tuis error in Deathbringer's age mistake
That logic you're misinformed (not uninformated) given Winglet Assassin - his short book - claims Deathbringer's age is "four", second time emphasized by his mentor Quickstrike. Tui already spoke age mistake to correct, and it's been inconsistent. Winter's "few years older" overall a fine middle ground his wits sharp and plenty brevity
The Glorybringer age gap is 100% a writing mistake The only pedo in WoF ended up electrocuted to death and is the single least liked character in the whole series because Tui literally wrote him as unlikable as possible Plus, there is no consistency with dragon aging and the age gap ranged from 15 and 37 to 18 and 20 (the highest and lowest ages I've seen of each character) Age is very correlated to size in many cases, like Morrowseer being absolutely huge compared to the others, and Deathbringer is around the same size as Starflight in Arc 1 (not to mention Deathbringer being called a dragonet in Arc 1) But yeah, Tui should just reprint it
The reason Tui hasn’t reprinted it is because it would mess up the time of the books. For example, Assassin and Deserter occur around the same time, so if Assassin happened a couple years later so would Deserter. And since Assassin took place 2 years before The Brightest Night, then if both Assassin and Deserter were moved forward a couple years then Dune would have still been in Burn’s army at the time the dragonets of destiny hatched
Personally, I like the ship for what it is intended to be, just two dragons loving each other I try to ignore the age gap, but I know that Tui didn’t intentionally make it that big, it was accidental Plus I love how opposite they are from each other, Glory is serious and acts rationally while DeathBringer is a spunky guy.
I also like this couple, but I find it strange how they infantilized Deathbringer. Sometimes it seems that the one who was 6 was actually him and the one who was 12/13 was Glory 💀
The sad part is that the Glorybringer age gap is a mistake that Tui CAN'T take back In order for Sunny to be the SandWing Dragonet of Destiny, Dune had to be in the Scorpion Den when she was an egg In order for Dune to be in the Scorpion Den when she was an egg, Six-Claws would have to take him there In order for Six-Claws to take him there, Deathbringer would have to convince him to leave Burns army In order for that to work, Deathbringer would have to be older than the DoD or else the timeline is fucked!
I find the fact the Author didn't admit to her mistake & just made an excuse and didn't even mention trying to fix it, more disturbing than Grolybringer itself.
I love if you can do sundew, whiteout, tamarin, and cricket, the four of them are pretty interesting characters, and these are my personal for favourites
7:17 this is such an important thing to remember when writing. Shiping can be appealing, but it's important to remember that people are able to care about eachother without being romantically interested/involved with eachother.
You are free to have your own opinions on the subject. There's nothing I can say about that. However, I have three points I would like to make. I hope that they may allow you to enjoy this ship as much as I do. Firstly, I think you may have made an error in your calculations of Deathbringer's age in human years. Glorybringer is my favorite ship because of the dynamic of the two characters and how well they fit together. As you can probably guess, this has gotten me into several conversations/arguments with different people in the fandom on this subject. This has led me into doing very extensive research on the different dragon ages and their ages in human years. I have discovered multiple evaluations and results that have placed Deathbringer's age at the time of meeting Glory anywhere from 20 to 35 in human years. My point is that you can't really convert them into a human age by years, but you can convert them into a human age by stage: infant (still being nursed on their mother's milk), toddler (starts displaying signs of basic motor functions and communication skills), child (beginning to show signs of intuition and problem solving skills), teenager (beginning to go through puberty, starting to feel independent), young adult (capable of making difficult decisions on their own, becoming fully responsible over their life), adult (starting your own family), elder (at this point, you're pretty much finishing up your bucket list). The exact point change stages is so blurred it's pretty much impossible to tell. At one point you just realize that you fully transitioned by now to the next stage in life and you're no longer what you once were. You might not even be sure when you made this transition. You said there was only roughly a 4 year age-gap when Glory and Deathbringer first met. Is there really that much of an age-gap in between them? This is made even more complicated when you consider that Glory was at the end of one of these stages in life. I think the more appropriate course of action in figuring out whether or not this would be considered an appropriate relationship would be to look at other relationships in the fandom, specifically, the ones between adults. What's the age gap between Tsunami's parents, let's say? How about Moon's parents? What about other marriages that exist in the series? Compare these to Glory and Deathbringer. This will be much easier and more accurate because you can stick to Dragon years, which are definite in the series, as opposed to human years, which would just be speculation and loose estimation from the fandom. Secondly, the legal age for "relations" is different everywhere. Tui was born in Venezuela, where the legal age is 16. She currently lives in Boston, where the legal age is also 16. In fact, 16 is the most common legal age world wide. Remember when I said that I did extensive research? This included asking not one, not two, but THREE Boston attorneys if a relationship between a 21 year old and a 17 year old is pedophilia, and all three responded with the same answer: It's legal, if inadvisable. Basically, while not kosher, Glorybringer isn't pedophilia. As if that wasn't enough, we don't know how aging even works with dragons. Their maturity cycle and development cycle could be on a completely different ratio than ours. This is why comparing them to other couples and sticking to dragon years is more accurate. Finally, there's also the admittedly cheap, but still relevant argument of the ship being canon. Moon has a vision at the end of the sixth book in which multiple dragonets are hanging out at the academy. Tui confirmed one of these dragonets to be the child of Deathbringer and Glory. This is an unsatisfying argument since it's essentially a child's argument of "but mama said", but I feel like the canon material should hold some authority on the matter. So there you go. I would love to hear your thoughts on these points, particularly the first one. Please respond, and have a great day!
Not to mention the age gap only appeared later, when tui was making Deathbringer’s backstory. She just didn’t calculate the age right. When she initially wrote them, there was no age gap
if the canon says the beast is an adult at 7 then theyre an adult at 7. thats alot of words to say you wanna support an uninteresting bland pedophilic ship
I like your channel. For some reason, your videos remind me of all the Pokemon content TamashiiHiroka created in 2013 which I would watch between studying for finals! XP
I think Deathbringer is a nice character, (Spoiler Alert ⚠) although he was trying to KO the Dod at first, in the end he had a change of heart (mostly bc of Glory) and he nearly risked his own life. What a kind “genial -man- dragon :)
*Gental (I can’t edit bc it wont let me edit my comments, and my phone is pretty much a potato for even something as simple as YT, but not for Roblox for some reason 🤔, maybe it doesn’t like chrome, but anyways, yeah)
Honestly, I don't think Glorybringers respective ages are that bad. I at first thought that Glory would be 17, as you said, and Deathbringer was about 38. But I think that, while 17 and 22 is pedocriminality, 18 and 24, I find more acceptable. I personally know a married couple where the husband is 78ish and the wife 20. That is sick, and I wouldn't like to see that un a book. However, I think that while it is a little stretch, a 6 year gap is acceptable.
Interesting that the first character analisis is one of the more polarizing characters in the series. Also, didn't he also show up in Dragonslayer kinda helping out Wren?
Honestly, I have 0 issue with the age gap. since dragons can actually live way more than just 100, also the fact they slowdown in terms of aging after adulthood. Their Society is different and it's the same one where Anemone was being forced by her mother to marry Whirlpool the second she was going to become an Adult(He would've been Elderly by then) (Rest in piss you won't be missed). Also 15-17 actually is the age of consent for some countries (Since some people actually reach Adulthood much earlier than others, in both physical and mental maturity) so using the argument based off humans is invalid. By your opinion is your opinion
I wish Deathbringer became king of the RainWings and NightWings in the second arc. I think personally think the age gap is less problematic than the power imbalance simply because Glory treats Deathbringer like a pet. Either way, it’s not a healthy relationship (I do not condone pedophilia, I just feel that more people should talk about the power imbalance between them)
For the sake of not provoking an internet rant I will not be mentioning my feelings about glorybringer in this comment instead I'm just going to be questioning why did you not mention murder basket
Isn’t peril 10 ish or something (correct me if I am wrong) and clay is same age as glory so you calculations put clay at 17 and peril at 20 ish which is better but isn’t that also a little odd?
i'm pretty sure tui confirmed that deathbringers age was a mistake and he was supposed to be younger, i know you said what's written is written but i don't see the big deal, i know the age gap is big but no casual reader notices and compares dragon ages to human ages edit: great video, i love your content :>
Ok so your comparing dragons, with different ages and stuff, to humans, I think that the age of maturity, (10) is not the age of consent, and that would possibly be 6~ and well no dragons really think of that so obviously it must be fine, right?
i dont really like glory bringer too it seemed a bit rushed in my opinion and if i had to choose darkstalker x clear sight or deathbringer x glory to get cut off from the series i would choose darkstalker x glory
yes, because darksight is a major ship that shapes the series and glorybringer is just a cute side ship, but still a good ship. also you wrote darkstalker x glory and i am now disturbed-
To us Americans it does seem weird. But there is something I should point out. Tui's from Venezuela in Central America. And in some parts of the world the age at which a child reaches adulthood is 17 instead of 18. Personally since Glory was so close anyway (not to mention having no parents to speak of and no way to know how wrong it was), I think we can forgive a little wiggle room. Good video still, and my vote's still on Smolder next. He was a strong part of Deserter and Arc one and two.
@Sara Moustamandi I do see your point. That being said can we fairly assume that it was a consensual relationship? There was a four-month gap between the events of Sunny's book and Moon's. It's implied that in that time Glory turned 7, and was technically an adult who could make up her own mind. So... really some key details are missing. She was really close to being full-grown, within a week at most. Even if she wasn't then, she is now.
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Personally, I think it'd be really fun to see you do this type of video on Thorn, Scarlet, Sundew and Tamarin. They all have pretty unique personalities that I desperately wished were discussed about more!
I would also be interested on a video about Tamarin
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This is gonna be good! Deathbringer is probably the most involved character of Arc 1 other than the 5 protagonists. And his Winglet: Assassin was such an amazing story that explained his origins so well!
I see you literally on every Wof video and normal ones I watch
@@Aein-xCupid Same
Morrowseer: *am I a joke to you?*
Edit in case anyone is still here
Deathbringer and Glory is an official ship that Tui herself confirmed and they later had a dragonet named Firefly. She also retconned the time periods of Assassin and the Dragonet Prophecy so their ages would be closer together so it's not considered pedophilia.
In Winter Turning Winter said that Deathbringer was a FEW years old older than him
considering Winter was 5 and a few years mean 2-3 it means that Deathbringer was around 7-8
Its a shame Charcoal is this uninformated about Tuis error in Deathbringer's age mistake
That logic you're misinformed (not uninformated) given Winglet Assassin - his short book - claims Deathbringer's age is "four", second time emphasized by his mentor Quickstrike.
Tui already spoke age mistake to correct, and it's been inconsistent. Winter's "few years older" overall a fine middle ground his wits sharp and plenty brevity
The Glorybringer age gap is 100% a writing mistake
The only pedo in WoF ended up electrocuted to death and is the single least liked character in the whole series because Tui literally wrote him as unlikable as possible
Plus, there is no consistency with dragon aging and the age gap ranged from 15 and 37 to 18 and 20 (the highest and lowest ages I've seen of each character)
Age is very correlated to size in many cases, like Morrowseer being absolutely huge compared to the others, and Deathbringer is around the same size as Starflight in Arc 1 (not to mention Deathbringer being called a dragonet in Arc 1)
But yeah, Tui should just reprint it
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I sense a new trending series on this channel.
The reason Tui hasn’t reprinted it is because it would mess up the time of the books. For example, Assassin and Deserter occur around the same time, so if Assassin happened a couple years later so would Deserter. And since Assassin took place 2 years before The Brightest Night, then if both Assassin and Deserter were moved forward a couple years then Dune would have still been in Burn’s army at the time the dragonets of destiny hatched
They could make deathbringer younger maybe
Personally, I like the ship for what it is intended to be, just two dragons loving each other
I try to ignore the age gap, but I know that Tui didn’t intentionally make it that big, it was accidental
Plus I love how opposite they are from each other, Glory is serious and acts rationally while DeathBringer is a spunky guy.
I also like this couple, but I find it strange how they infantilized Deathbringer. Sometimes it seems that the one who was 6 was actually him and the one who was 12/13 was Glory 💀
Deathbringer is mentioned to be around 7 or 8 on multiple occasions. There's no age gap, just children crying over a typo.
The sad part is that the Glorybringer age gap is a mistake that Tui CAN'T take back
In order for Sunny to be the SandWing Dragonet of Destiny, Dune had to be in the Scorpion Den when she was an egg
In order for Dune to be in the Scorpion Den when she was an egg, Six-Claws would have to take him there
In order for Six-Claws to take him there, Deathbringer would have to convince him to leave Burns army
In order for that to work, Deathbringer would have to be older than the DoD or else the timeline is fucked!
I find the fact the Author didn't admit to her mistake & just made an excuse and didn't even mention trying to fix it, more disturbing than Grolybringer itself.
6:52 I am proud to say I still have the Queen Mudhen copy lol
I got it to
Tui fixed the age gap problem when she realized what she did by accident.
It'll be so interesting to do one on fierceteeth shes so underrated
IKR! I used to not like her because she was snarky, but after reading her winglet she immediately climbed up the ranks.
I love if you can do sundew, whiteout, tamarin, and cricket, the four of them are pretty interesting characters, and these are my personal for favourites
7:17 this is such an important thing to remember when writing. Shiping can be appealing, but it's important to remember that people are able to care about eachother without being romantically interested/involved with eachother.
This was an amazing video great job charcoal!
You are free to have your own opinions on the subject. There's nothing I can say about that. However, I have three points I would like to make. I hope that they may allow you to enjoy this ship as much as I do.
Firstly, I think you may have made an error in your calculations of Deathbringer's age in human years. Glorybringer is my favorite ship because of the dynamic of the two characters and how well they fit together. As you can probably guess, this has gotten me into several conversations/arguments with different people in the fandom on this subject. This has led me into doing very extensive research on the different dragon ages and their ages in human years. I have discovered multiple evaluations and results that have placed Deathbringer's age at the time of meeting Glory anywhere from 20 to 35 in human years. My point is that you can't really convert them into a human age by years, but you can convert them into a human age by stage: infant (still being nursed on their mother's milk), toddler (starts displaying signs of basic motor functions and communication skills), child (beginning to show signs of intuition and problem solving skills), teenager (beginning to go through puberty, starting to feel independent), young adult (capable of making difficult decisions on their own, becoming fully responsible over their life), adult (starting your own family), elder (at this point, you're pretty much finishing up your bucket list). The exact point change stages is so blurred it's pretty much impossible to tell. At one point you just realize that you fully transitioned by now to the next stage in life and you're no longer what you once were. You might not even be sure when you made this transition. You said there was only roughly a 4 year age-gap when Glory and Deathbringer first met. Is there really that much of an age-gap in between them? This is made even more complicated when you consider that Glory was at the end of one of these stages in life. I think the more appropriate course of action in figuring out whether or not this would be considered an appropriate relationship would be to look at other relationships in the fandom, specifically, the ones between adults. What's the age gap between Tsunami's parents, let's say? How about Moon's parents? What about other marriages that exist in the series? Compare these to Glory and Deathbringer. This will be much easier and more accurate because you can stick to Dragon years, which are definite in the series, as opposed to human years, which would just be speculation and loose estimation from the fandom.
Secondly, the legal age for "relations" is different everywhere. Tui was born in Venezuela, where the legal age is 16. She currently lives in Boston, where the legal age is also 16. In fact, 16 is the most common legal age world wide. Remember when I said that I did extensive research? This included asking not one, not two, but THREE Boston attorneys if a relationship between a 21 year old and a 17 year old is pedophilia, and all three responded with the same answer: It's legal, if inadvisable. Basically, while not kosher, Glorybringer isn't pedophilia. As if that wasn't enough, we don't know how aging even works with dragons. Their maturity cycle and development cycle could be on a completely different ratio than ours. This is why comparing them to other couples and sticking to dragon years is more accurate.
Finally, there's also the admittedly cheap, but still relevant argument of the ship being canon. Moon has a vision at the end of the sixth book in which multiple dragonets are hanging out at the academy. Tui confirmed one of these dragonets to be the child of Deathbringer and Glory. This is an unsatisfying argument since it's essentially a child's argument of "but mama said", but I feel like the canon material should hold some authority on the matter.
So there you go. I would love to hear your thoughts on these points, particularly the first one. Please respond, and have a great day!
Not to mention the age gap only appeared later, when tui was making Deathbringer’s backstory. She just didn’t calculate the age right. When she initially wrote them, there was no age gap
@@jadedesigns6171 Interesting.
@Jade Designs in fact, if I remember correctly, Tui even meant for Deathbringer to be slightly younger than Glory.
@@leasmith2248 Yeah that makes sense with their dynamic
if the canon says the beast is an adult at 7 then theyre an adult at 7. thats alot of words to say you wanna support an uninteresting bland pedophilic ship
I would love to see you do Peril!
Same
I third this! 🐲💯🔥
I forth this.
I think you should do one about Swordtail
I like your channel. For some reason, your videos remind me of all the Pokemon content TamashiiHiroka created in 2013 which I would watch between studying for finals! XP
I think Deathbringer is a nice character, (Spoiler Alert ⚠)
although he was trying to KO the Dod at first, in the end he had a change of heart (mostly bc of Glory) and he nearly risked his own life. What a kind “genial -man- dragon :)
*Gental (I can’t edit bc it wont let me edit my comments, and my phone is pretty much a potato for even something as simple as YT, but not for Roblox for some reason 🤔, maybe it doesn’t like chrome, but anyways, yeah)
@@General_Belu Gentle*
Character ideas:
Whiteout
Fierceteeth
Six-claws
Fathom
Snowfall
Vigilance
Diamond
Blister
Sora
Icicle
Dune
Anemome
Tsunami
Cricket
Hazel
Wasp
Flame
Ruby
Scalet
Darkstalker
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Honestly, I don't think Glorybringers respective ages are that bad. I at first thought that Glory would be 17, as you said, and Deathbringer was about 38. But I think that, while 17 and 22 is pedocriminality, 18 and 24, I find more acceptable. I personally know a married couple where the husband is 78ish and the wife 20. That is sick, and I wouldn't like to see that un a book. However, I think that while it is a little stretch, a 6 year gap is acceptable.
Thank you! That's so true! I love Glorybringer!
Also, in winter, turning, it it said that deaf bring originally a little older than winter
*Deathbringer
Deathbringer and Glory has a James Bond/Moneypenny vibe for me. Playful flirting is cute as long as it's brief between these two.
I think you could add about which book each character was best in.
Dont forget in Dragonslayer, we found him as Murderbasket
Can you do Viper? I know, she’s underrated.
Oi, this was a pretty good video, Charcky. 😜 And it made ms realize - if I'm 19, that means I'd be 8 years old in SandWing years! 🐲🥳💯
You forgot about his appearance in Dragonslayer
Interesting that the first character analisis is one of the more polarizing characters in the series.
Also, didn't he also show up in Dragonslayer kinda helping out Wren?
Yes.
What a drag-tastic way to kick off this new series! 👏
Awesome can you do Flame next
Coral wanted to make her 2 yo dragonet (10 yo old child) marry an dragons who is old enough to be her great-great-great grandfather.
Deathbringer also appeared in Dragonslayer.
I wonder who would win in a fight Deathbringer or Foeslayer
Honestly, I have 0 issue with the age gap.
since dragons can actually live way more than just 100, also the fact they slowdown in terms of aging after adulthood.
Their Society is different and it's the same one where Anemone was being forced by her mother to marry Whirlpool the second she was going to become an Adult(He would've been Elderly by then) (Rest in piss you won't be missed).
Also 15-17 actually is the age of consent for some countries (Since some people actually reach Adulthood much earlier than others, in both physical and mental maturity) so using the argument based off humans is invalid.
By your opinion is your opinion
Finally i love your vidos i miss your vidos thums up.
For your next video can you do it about EVERY DRAGON'S favorite SandWing? Of course, I'm talking about my cousin; Q I B L I !!! 🤘🐲
u/the_reddit_deathbringer going wild XD
I wish Deathbringer became king of the RainWings and NightWings in the second arc. I think personally think the age gap is less problematic than the power imbalance simply because Glory treats Deathbringer like a pet. Either way, it’s not a healthy relationship (I do not condone pedophilia, I just feel that more people should talk about the power imbalance between them)
Give this comment a like if y'all want to see Charc boi do a video on Qibli! 😜
You think that is bad my aunt who was 22 married someone who was 42!
But glory is a dragon we know nothing about how dragons bread
Assassin is my favorite Winglet. Don't @ me.
do glory
Wait, doesn’t Deathbringer make an appearance in Dargonslayer, where Wren calls him Murderbasket or something? Idk, I’m just going off memory.
She misstranslated
Yes, and that's why Deathbringer Is afraid of scavengers
Honestly listen to what tui wanted I saw a video about it HONESTLY
U made me cry because I love glory and Deathbringer there the best couple 😿😿😿😿😿
noticed you never brought up his appearance in dragonslayer
Literally just forgot
@@CharcoalsDen lol, kinda figured, honestly "murder basket" is the best part of his character imo
He's 6/13/8 years old
For the sake of not provoking an internet rant I will not be mentioning my feelings about glorybringer in this comment instead I'm just going to be questioning why did you not mention murder basket
Not even joking, I just forgot
@@CharcoalsDen dude that scene is priceless and possibly the reason he didn't kill Glory
@@lahlybird895quite likely.
And Certainly priceless.
@@ellabennett6091 indeed
5:22 thats not how work aging in animals.
Also pedophilia is only when the minior has less than 12 years, you only compare something awfull with a inocent ship
Isn’t peril 10 ish or something (correct me if I am wrong) and clay is same age as glory so you calculations put clay at 17 and peril at 20 ish which is better but isn’t that also a little odd?
Um peril is 8 and sky is her twin so he's 8 to
The thing is, GloryBringer became partly canon (and is very possible) thanks to a vision Moonwatcher has book six
i'm pretty sure tui confirmed that deathbringers age was a mistake and he was supposed to be younger, i know you said what's written is written but i don't see the big deal, i know the age gap is big but no casual reader notices and compares dragon ages to human ages
edit: great video, i love your content :>
I certainly didn't notice the gap. He's mentioned to be 9 years old or less in book 4, and 7 years old in book 7.
deathbringer is nothing but a simp the only good thing about him is his winglet
No Glorybringer
Sundew please
Ok so your comparing dragons, with different ages and stuff, to humans, I think that the age of maturity, (10) is not the age of consent, and that would possibly be 6~ and well no dragons really think of that so obviously it must be fine, right?
i dont really like glory bringer too it seemed a bit rushed in my opinion and if i had to choose darkstalker x clear sight or deathbringer x glory to get cut off from the series i would choose darkstalker x glory
yes, because darksight is a major ship that shapes the series and glorybringer is just a cute side ship, but still a good ship. also you wrote darkstalker x glory and i am now disturbed-
@@topaz_sword oop sorry It was meant to be deathbringer lol 😂
@@crystalabsol2087 xd lol
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Dear Wings of Charcoal
If you read book 3 it says that he is is barely larger than Starflight. BARELY!!
Tbh, I hate death bringer. He’s so annoying to me 🙁
I can't possible agree. He's charismatic, you fool.
To us Americans it does seem weird. But there is something I should point out. Tui's from Venezuela in Central America. And in some parts of the world the age at which a child reaches adulthood is 17 instead of 18. Personally since Glory was so close anyway (not to mention having no parents to speak of and no way to know how wrong it was), I think we can forgive a little wiggle room.
Good video still, and my vote's still on Smolder next. He was a strong part of Deserter and Arc one and two.
exactly!
@Sara Moustamandi it was a mistake.
@Sara Moustamandi I did read your comment. I was affirming your statement because I agreed with it.
@Sara Moustamandi I do see your point. That being said can we fairly assume that it was a consensual relationship? There was a four-month gap between the events of Sunny's book and Moon's. It's implied that in that time Glory turned 7, and was technically an adult who could make up her own mind. So... really some key details are missing. She was really close to being full-grown, within a week at most. Even if she wasn't then, she is now.
Venezuela is in south america not central america which technically central is part of north america
Sorry for being a nerd