A gap or something that would let the cable through would open up more versatility and make it 10/10 perfect. Amazing piece of equipment regardless! Big dubs to REP.
Yes, my rack has cables running down the center-front of the upright if the trolley is all the way at the bottom. Things like seal rows would be impossible if the cable can't pass through.
Love my Pegasus! Got it for my Rogue RM4, and fits without any issues. The detachable leg rollers to use as a stand alone piece is a very nice feature. The Pegasus will come in handy even more as I convert my power rack to the new twin stack cable system for lat pull downs and for some leg workouts
When will the review of the Ares 2.0 be? I heard it was going through quality issues and thus they are double checking. Great consistency from REP. Better take longer and right.
My biggest complaint with this as a seal row pad is your face ends up right next to the upright. That’s why I like the Thresher so much, you have a good healthy distance from the upright which means you can also use it facing away from the rack like a Pritchett Pad (minus being offset for the landmine).
All new prime single stacks have holes on the side. I wish yours had holes on the side because I want to see if the Pegasus would work on the prime single stack. Thanks for the great review!
Are you going to do a hands on review of the new rogue functional trainer? Would really like to see more info on it especially the half rack version. Please please please
The “full rom” argument kinda doesn’t matter. The stretched/extended portion of the movement is the most hypertrophic. The top of the movement isn’t that critical in the seal row.
Definitely disagree purely from an enjoyment perspective, but also not everyone is training for hypertrophy and full rom can be better for other adaptations
I pre-ordered this so you know I was excited about it but since receiving it, I haven't found much use for it so it mostly collects dust. Its does not even serve me as a seat for the lat pull downs. For most of the exercises mentioned like curls, flys, chest supported rows etc. it's just easier, simpler, and faster to use the bench that I'm already working out on. For context, I have the Rep PR 5000 with the cable attachment and the additional weights. The selectorize weights for a single stack on the Rep cable attachment only go up to ~155lbs, I can pull down over 200lbs for reps so I require the double stack which you can't use if you use the Pegasus Seat. It's ok for dumbbell rows, but isn't the best for barbell rows like Coop pointed out.....even when doing dumbbell rows its faster and easier to use my Rep fitness bench. I can't think about a single use case where I'd recommend its purchase to a home gym user, especially at that price.
10:52 this would only be not getting a full contraction, not limiting the stretch portion, and there are plenty of cable attachments such as hammer curl or open row style. Is there a way to attach the leg rollers not to each other, to have one on either side of a rack rather than around the same upright? doesn't look it, but has some versatility.
I hate that there are 1” and 5/8” holes. I went with 5/8 because everything is cheaper and I don’t see any benefit to 1” holes. It just stinks that sometimes you can’t get the attachment you want because it’s for a different hole size.
You just said there is no benefit to 1" holes then listed the very reason I went with 1" holes. Every company makes more accessories for the 1" version. So yes there is a benefit you should've thought about before buying 5/8"
Any idea when the 5/8 version is coming? Also, what do you think about using this with a dialed motion set up like the sidewinder? Seems like it might be similar to using the voltra, as mentioned in the video.
13:30. OG coop wouldn’t be pussy footing around about the weight limit. He would have don’t some stress tests and found the weight limit! Common coop. When’s the last time you did a test like that!? We miss them!!
does the prx axis thing achieve similar things? bells of steel? i'm still not certain why you can't just use an ad bench and rollers for most things this "does"
I had the same thoughts, but I was told one thing this can help with is if your rack has front extension feet you can't bring a bench right up against the upright easily so you can't really use your bench as a seat for pulldowns with just a lower cost leg holder attachment on the upright, so in that case an attachment like this can make pulldowns possible. But I am still trying to figure out how an adjustable bench can't already do the other things like chest supported rows and presses, especially given the only 300lb weight capacity. It seems a bit overpriced for mainly just allowing you to have a pulldown seat but there could be some other advantages to using an attachment like this instead of your bench for those exercises that I'm just not aware of.
i'm looking to have as few pieces as possible so i'll actually use them all. this is why i ordered the dialed motion. use their method for lat and belt so that i can use mostly what i have already and not have to deal with carrying a heavy accessory around mounting and adjusting. i could literally use my entire 3 car garage as i have another but i just don't see the point in doing that. i'm not competing and im not training others so im looking to keep it minimal but full service. to each their own i just see this the same as i see lever arms-fun in theory but either in the way or unweildly
I want it just for the removable rollers that screw together in the post. Seriously, sell that as a standalone, and I'd buy it. Are there any other dual-side single-post rollers? Leg Hold Down Attachments always stick out too far.
Coop, I'm genuinely a little confused as to the usefulness of this thing, couldn't you do almost all of these features/exercises just as well with an adjustable bench and a cheap leg holder attachment off AMZN for pulldowns for like $75? Just slide your bench up close to your rack/cable system and you can incline for chest support, pressing, curls, etc..., and flat for a seat + leg holder w/pulldowns. Is there something that the Pegasus does so much better that it's worth the $400 if you've already got a good bench and leg roller attachment?
Using your bench as a seat for pulldowns is impossible if you have front legs on your rack. It's also a lot more adjustable than any bench. But this would only make sense if you need a seat + leg holder, an adjustable row pad, and leg rollers. All 3 of these combined will run you about 350-400 USD.
@@polycultural-capital-enjoyer Ahh totally makes sense for racks with front stabilizing feet that aren't flat on the ground, can see how that would make it hard to pull up a bench to use as a seat with a leg holder attachment, good point!! My rack has flat feet that don't stick out much further than the front pulley does so I can do pulldowns with my bench as the seat and a cheap leg holder attachment on the upright without any issue. If I really need to, I can easily put a thick plate on each side of the rack foot to raise my bench feet on and give enough clearance to bring the bench pad right up against the upright too. But what are the advantages of a rack mounted row pad vs just inclining your bench to do some chest supported rows (and/or curls/presses like coop showed)? Especially with only a 300lb weight capacity! Seems like it accomplishes a very similar purpose unless it's something like a Pritchett Pad to offset you sightly from the upright for a t-bar row with a landmine.
@@killerkhatiby009 Can’t you just rotate your bench 90 degrees to avoid its feet overlapping with the rack foot? That is, sit in the middle of the bench facing one side and place that close to the rack upright for lat pull down. The bench feet are far out to your left and right and the rack foot is directly underneath you.
@@jlgg9816 Ooh good point, that could definitely work with some benches and racks!! Though there are benches where the design of the frame could mean sitting right on the gap between the back and seat pads since that's the point on the frame that has the highest clearance off the ground, so it may not be ideal. Really just depends on how the bench frame and pads are designed I guess, but definitely could work for a lot of people and I think most benches should have enough clearance without needing to sit on the gap. Unfortunately, for my setup I actually need to decline the back pad to allow me to achieve full ROM since I'm a little tall and my rack is a bit too short for me when sitting on top of the bench when it's flat, so turning the bench sideways doesn't work for me either since I need to sit on the lowered head closer to the ground.
If only it could somehow, magically, be used as a lat pull down seat for racks that have a back center pull point.. thinking Ares and Rogue's offerings, for example. Sure, you could always just use it off one of the front uprights and use the pulley/2:1 ratio, but that's less than ideal. I have no practical suggestion on how to do that, since you'd need an upright awkwardly in your way, but I think many of us have lat pull downs that are based out of the back center of the rack and this doesn't quite hit that mark.
This is the product that made me fall out of love with rep. Instead of building upon their eco system, they became like apple. If you want to use this with ares 1.0 u gotta be willing to sell ur ares n upgrade to the 2.0. Im sorry im not selling n buying just to be ab.e to use ur attachments. Btw they did this after just 1 year of releasing the ares. Ill buy rogue / prime from now on.
Yes but also thats what happens when you are first to market with a revolutionary product like the ares. They made mistakes on gen 1 and fixed them properly instead of bandaid fixes to the gen 1. Thats why you should never buy gen 1 of anything, the car market proves this time after time.
Still waiting for Coop’s review of Rogue’s new functional trainers. It’s mind blowing to me that customers have already been receiving these functional trainers for well over a month now and only one single review (thanks Gluck’s Gym) exists on RUclips so far! This was one of the biggest equipment releases of the year by one of if not the biggest home gym equipment supplier and no one is reviewing this equipment. Why?
I don't think rogue has a kickback program like rep does and they don't send out review samples. Plus you kind of know what you're getting with rogue most of the time
@@andersonhirt that makes sense... If you have to pay for the unit to do a review, that takes the guys who actually are invested in reviews. I love Glucks channel for willing to pay his own money
They also have an affiliate / kickback program. It’s on the bottom of their site. FYI. Their cable slinger thing was bad but the Ares 2.0 vs FM will be fun to see! Great for consumers to have competition and choices.
Trying to figured out what set up I want in my new garage gym. Most likely going with wall mounted fixed athena due to most versatility for price and space. Rep fitness is the move for equipment
Need a way to center this within a rack for use with their lat pulldown/low row attachment. should be possible to mount something on the rear stabilizer for this. cmon Rep make it happen!
With so many cambered handle options the limited range is hardly a criticism. This looks like a no brainer if it fits within your setup. Putting this in my ever growing wishlist
The cambered attachment isn’t super necessary, because the stretch is at the start of a row. Otherwise why not use a cambered bar for lat pulldowns too?
nice piece, but the ares 5000 has the cable running outside of the square tubes, so low rows cant be done with that rack, since the attachment will interfere with the cable. They didnt think about that!! :(
I really just needed a seat and thigh pad for the Adonis which it should come with in the first place. I don't need all the adjustability because the Blackwing can do 90% of it already.
IMO full range of motion on stuff like seal rows is overrated. Just use a barbell and use the limits of the seat as a reason to lengthen bias your rows.
A gap or something that would let the cable through would open up more versatility and make it 10/10 perfect. Amazing piece of equipment regardless! Big dubs to REP.
Yes, my rack has cables running down the center-front of the upright if the trolley is all the way at the bottom. Things like seal rows would be impossible if the cable can't pass through.
I want to see REP come up with a Leg curl/leg extension solution for their PR-4000 and PR-5000 with Ares.
Yes! I would buy this in an instant
Absolutely. I assumed we would have seen that by now
I have the BodySolid GLEG and it’s works really well with the functional trainer part of the Ares
@@Notsostrongman375 that’s good to know, it seems to be the best solution. Do you use the low row connection point with it? Any gripes?
@@Notsostrongman375 thx- will look into it
Generally been impressed with all the new releases from REP. Another solid one for all of us home gym fans!
Solution to the limited ROM during chest supported rows…. Darko longy bar with D handles.
Great review as always! Waiting for the full review of the REPPIN 👀
This gives me an idea to finally use the eyehole for my rep multi grip camber bar. Seal rows on the Athena upright with this seat
God review! I want one now!
Love my Pegasus! Got it for my Rogue RM4, and fits without any issues. The detachable leg rollers to use as a stand alone piece is a very nice feature. The Pegasus will come in handy even more as I convert my power rack to the new twin stack cable system for lat pull downs and for some leg workouts
This is really slick. Make it in 5/8” holes and I’ll buy
When will the review of the Ares 2.0 be? I heard it was going through quality issues and thus they are double checking. Great consistency from REP. Better take longer and right.
Coop! Have you tried the The Infinity Arm 2.0 by Exponent Edge? Seems like a great product.
Love to see Rep innovating. This looks nice. I still prefer a bulldog pad and a separate thigh pad for simplicity.
Hey Coop, which app do you use? Love your content!
My biggest complaint with this as a seal row pad is your face ends up right next to the upright. That’s why I like the Thresher so much, you have a good healthy distance from the upright which means you can also use it facing away from the rack like a Pritchett Pad (minus being offset for the landmine).
All new prime single stacks have holes on the side. I wish yours had holes on the side because I want to see if the Pegasus would work on the prime single stack. Thanks for the great review!
Are you going to do a hands on review of the new rogue functional trainer? Would really like to see more info on it especially the half rack version. Please please please
I think we’re going to see a lot of rogue squat racks for sale soon as everyone will be buying their functional trainers lol
Well done review Coop 👌
Coop, your Dr. Mike is showing. Camber bar, incline curls, mesocycles…
Really surprised you didn't demonstrate single Leg Extensions, or single leg Curls
I would like to see a version of this that works with the cable attachment for the PR-5000 rack so that it can be centered.
Unfortunately won't work with Athena if pulleys are in lower position under seat.
I need a seat for between my spotter arms for my DIY plate loaded pulley system. Right now it’s just my bench which has limitations
The “full rom” argument kinda doesn’t matter.
The stretched/extended portion of the movement is the most hypertrophic.
The top of the movement isn’t that critical in the seal row.
Technically correct but the peak contraction just feels so good. That being said there are many cambered handles out there to fix this
Definitely disagree purely from an enjoyment perspective, but also not everyone is training for hypertrophy and full rom can be better for other adaptations
I pre-ordered this so you know I was excited about it but since receiving it, I haven't found much use for it so it mostly collects dust. Its does not even serve me as a seat for the lat pull downs. For most of the exercises mentioned like curls, flys, chest supported rows etc. it's just easier, simpler, and faster to use the bench that I'm already working out on. For context, I have the Rep PR 5000 with the cable attachment and the additional weights. The selectorize weights for a single stack on the Rep cable attachment only go up to ~155lbs, I can pull down over 200lbs for reps so I require the double stack which you can't use if you use the Pegasus Seat. It's ok for dumbbell rows, but isn't the best for barbell rows like Coop pointed out.....even when doing dumbbell rows its faster and easier to use my Rep fitness bench. I can't think about a single use case where I'd recommend its purchase to a home gym user, especially at that price.
Hey give a GymPin a shot with a single stack and the seat will come in handy. You can keep the other stack free for supersetting, etc.
Just use your angles 90 or Kensui handles and attach them to the straight bar attachment, Coop. Boom! you now have a camber
Hey Coop, would you recommend using this on your FreeMotion cable machine or is it too big for that?
10:52 this would only be not getting a full contraction, not limiting the stretch portion, and there are plenty of cable attachments such as hammer curl or open row style.
Is there a way to attach the leg rollers not to each other, to have one on either side of a rack rather than around the same upright? doesn't look it, but has some versatility.
Please review ETE ( Extreme Training Equipment ). Please start with their Lat pulldown machine.
You can buy a Lat Pulldown attachment from REP for $449 or a seat for $400... lol
I hate that there are 1” and 5/8” holes. I went with 5/8 because everything is cheaper and I don’t see any benefit to 1” holes. It just stinks that sometimes you can’t get the attachment you want because it’s for a different hole size.
You just said there is no benefit to 1" holes then listed the very reason I went with 1" holes. Every company makes more accessories for the 1" version. So yes there is a benefit you should've thought about before buying 5/8"
I would love to have but Im stuck with PRX due to my limited space.
Get a hold of the Vander M14+ and review that. Llero fitness owns it.
Handles attached to a chain would fix the problem. Easily adjustable as needed
Can you do farmers walk with it?
Should buy two if you’re planning to do farmers walks
I heard there was a freak who requested one without a seat cushion
Any idea when the 5/8 version is coming? Also, what do you think about using this with a dialed motion set up like the sidewinder? Seems like it might be similar to using the voltra, as mentioned in the video.
Can you leave the seat loose? As in free-swinging as opposed to always setting the pin?
I ask so you can use it as back support for hip thrusts.
13:30. OG coop wouldn’t be pussy footing around about the weight limit. He would have don’t some stress tests and found the weight limit! Common coop. When’s the last time you did a test like that!? We miss them!!
We need Sam to test the weight capacity.
Still waiting on the pr4000 version
Is rep ever coming out with calibrated steel KG plates? I feel like I see them in videos at expos all the time last 2 years…
does the prx axis thing achieve similar things?
bells of steel?
i'm still not certain why you can't just use an ad bench and rollers for most things this "does"
I had the same thoughts, but I was told one thing this can help with is if your rack has front extension feet you can't bring a bench right up against the upright easily so you can't really use your bench as a seat for pulldowns with just a lower cost leg holder attachment on the upright, so in that case an attachment like this can make pulldowns possible.
But I am still trying to figure out how an adjustable bench can't already do the other things like chest supported rows and presses, especially given the only 300lb weight capacity.
It seems a bit overpriced for mainly just allowing you to have a pulldown seat but there could be some other advantages to using an attachment like this instead of your bench for those exercises that I'm just not aware of.
i'm looking to have as few pieces as possible so i'll actually use them all. this is why i ordered the dialed motion. use their method for lat and belt so that i can use mostly what i have already and not have to deal with carrying a heavy accessory around mounting and adjusting.
i could literally use my entire 3 car garage as i have another but i just don't see the point in doing that. i'm not competing and im not training others so im looking to keep it minimal but full service.
to each their own i just see this the same as i see lever arms-fun in theory but either in the way or unweildly
What’s up with the delayed adjustable dumbbells?
They need to make this into a chair with wheels, so it can be used in a fitness trainer.
How well would this work with the ARES 2.0 on the 5000 series?
Literally checking Rogue's site daily to see if the CTM-1 has been released yet. Cannot wait for the comparison video.
Will this be compatible with the Ares 2.0 cables being outside the post rather than in like with the post?
Hyperion review!
I want it just for the removable rollers that screw together in the post. Seriously, sell that as a standalone, and I'd buy it.
Are there any other dual-side single-post rollers? Leg Hold Down Attachments always stick out too far.
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Sure feels bad having an FT 5000 at this point lol.
Coop, I'm genuinely a little confused as to the usefulness of this thing, couldn't you do almost all of these features/exercises just as well with an adjustable bench and a cheap leg holder attachment off AMZN for pulldowns for like $75?
Just slide your bench up close to your rack/cable system and you can incline for chest support, pressing, curls, etc..., and flat for a seat + leg holder w/pulldowns.
Is there something that the Pegasus does so much better that it's worth the $400 if you've already got a good bench and leg roller attachment?
Using your bench as a seat for pulldowns is impossible if you have front legs on your rack. It's also a lot more adjustable than any bench. But this would only make sense if you need a seat + leg holder, an adjustable row pad, and leg rollers. All 3 of these combined will run you about 350-400 USD.
@@polycultural-capital-enjoyer Ahh totally makes sense for racks with front stabilizing feet that aren't flat on the ground, can see how that would make it hard to pull up a bench to use as a seat with a leg holder attachment, good point!!
My rack has flat feet that don't stick out much further than the front pulley does so I can do pulldowns with my bench as the seat and a cheap leg holder attachment on the upright without any issue.
If I really need to, I can easily put a thick plate on each side of the rack foot to raise my bench feet on and give enough clearance to bring the bench pad right up against the upright too.
But what are the advantages of a rack mounted row pad vs just inclining your bench to do some chest supported rows (and/or curls/presses like coop showed)? Especially with only a 300lb weight capacity!
Seems like it accomplishes a very similar purpose unless it's something like a Pritchett Pad to offset you sightly from the upright for a t-bar row with a landmine.
@@killerkhatiby009 Can’t you just rotate your bench 90 degrees to avoid its feet overlapping with the rack foot? That is, sit in the middle of the bench facing one side and place that close to the rack upright for lat pull down. The bench feet are far out to your left and right and the rack foot is directly underneath you.
@@jlgg9816 Ooh good point, that could definitely work with some benches and racks!!
Though there are benches where the design of the frame could mean sitting right on the gap between the back and seat pads since that's the point on the frame that has the highest clearance off the ground, so it may not be ideal.
Really just depends on how the bench frame and pads are designed I guess, but definitely could work for a lot of people and I think most benches should have enough clearance without needing to sit on the gap.
Unfortunately, for my setup I actually need to decline the back pad to allow me to achieve full ROM since I'm a little tall and my rack is a bit too short for me when sitting on top of the bench when it's flat, so turning the bench sideways doesn't work for me either since I need to sit on the lowered head closer to the ground.
If only it could somehow, magically, be used as a lat pull down seat for racks that have a back center pull point.. thinking Ares and Rogue's offerings, for example. Sure, you could always just use it off one of the front uprights and use the pulley/2:1 ratio, but that's less than ideal. I have no practical suggestion on how to do that, since you'd need an upright awkwardly in your way, but I think many of us have lat pull downs that are based out of the back center of the rack and this doesn't quite hit that mark.
I want a sissy squat attachment. Like the Titan Sissy Squat machine. But something rack attached and smaller.
I dont think theres enough space on the seat adjustor to put any numbers on it.
This is the product that made me fall out of love with rep. Instead of building upon their eco system, they became like apple. If you want to use this with ares 1.0 u gotta be willing to sell ur ares n upgrade to the 2.0. Im sorry im not selling n buying just to be ab.e to use ur attachments. Btw they did this after just 1 year of releasing the ares. Ill buy rogue / prime from now on.
Example- rogue dropped the functional trainer. Everyone who has a rogue rhino can contact rogue n upgrade to the FT using their rhino and save money.
Yes but also thats what happens when you are first to market with a revolutionary product like the ares. They made mistakes on gen 1 and fixed them properly instead of bandaid fixes to the gen 1. Thats why you should never buy gen 1 of anything, the car market proves this time after time.
Useless , every thing can be done on a incline/decline bench paired with a multi functional trainer/lat pull down
300 lbs isn't enough, unfortunately
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To turn the pads into nordic curls sold it for me!
Looks a little narrow, might as well use your flat bench with a band instead.
Still waiting for Coop’s review of Rogue’s new functional trainers. It’s mind blowing to me that customers have already been receiving these functional trainers for well over a month now and only one single review (thanks Gluck’s Gym) exists on RUclips so far! This was one of the biggest equipment releases of the year by one of if not the biggest home gym equipment supplier and no one is reviewing this equipment. Why?
I don't think rogue has a kickback program like rep does and they don't send out review samples. Plus you kind of know what you're getting with rogue most of the time
Have you seen how much that costs lol
@@andersonhirt that makes sense... If you have to pay for the unit to do a review, that takes the guys who actually are invested in reviews. I love Glucks channel for willing to pay his own money
They also have an affiliate / kickback program. It’s on the bottom of their site. FYI. Their cable slinger thing was bad but the Ares 2.0 vs FM will be fun to see! Great for consumers to have competition and choices.
Trying to figured out what set up I want in my new garage gym. Most likely going with wall mounted fixed athena due to most versatility for price and space. Rep fitness is the move for equipment
Need a way to center this within a rack for use with their lat pulldown/low row attachment. should be possible to mount something on the rear stabilizer for this. cmon Rep make it happen!
With so many cambered handle options the limited range is hardly a criticism. This looks like a no brainer if it fits within your setup. Putting this in my ever growing wishlist
What are the players for options? What’s the price range?
I absolutely love mine on pull days.
The cambered attachment isn’t super necessary, because the stretch is at the start of a row. Otherwise why not use a cambered bar for lat pulldowns too?
God damnit, my bank account was just recovering
Need one for fitness reality cage. No side holes on the uprights.
Angles90 grips for seal row.
can you handstand like children do against the wall? or you just build muscle without agility nor elasticity? how do you actually dance?
I have the Athena - so is this essentially useless because there’s two cables and the Pegasus can only be on one side?
Add a GymPin to one side and you are in business. Then you can use the two sides independently.
If that would fit on 3x3 5/8 holes, I would insta buy it.
Rep says PR-4000 series coming soon
nice piece, but the ares 5000 has the cable running outside of the square tubes, so low rows cant be done with that rack, since the attachment will interfere with the cable. They didnt think about that!! :(
Will this work with a 6 post pr5000 and lat pulldown?
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When is the Rogue functional trainer review coming? I’ve seen a few people already have it and still no reviews besides glucks
I really just needed a seat and thigh pad for the Adonis which it should come with in the first place. I don't need all the adjustability because the Blackwing can do 90% of it already.
Review the Titan Fitness Plate-Loaded Assisted Pull-Up and Dip Machine please 🙏
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IMO full range of motion on stuff like seal rows is overrated. Just use a barbell and use the limits of the seat as a reason to lengthen bias your rows.
Spoken like a true noob.
One of the benefits of seal rows is the lengthened bias though
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 spoken like a scrub lifting with "perfect" technique and staying small.
@@n00dle_king
Noodle arms king. Be real with yourself.
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 have fun staying small
If it was made in the US I could understand the price (still pricey) but it's not sooooo no thx.
Need a full review of the major fitness f35!!