I'm 70, fly a Mavic Pro and have been recently looking into FPV. Out of all of the videos I have watched and the different sims I've played, I have learned more in these few videos about Acro flying. Thank you.
I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos. I have been flying for about 6 months but am just now figuring out acro. I am using a simulator for now to learn but eventually want to do the real thing. Coordinated turns has to be my hardest thing so far to learn. Your video has put it in terms I can understand and relate to. Thanks again. Keep up the good work.
Coordinated turns are tricky at first because you have to consciously think about what you are doing. It doesn't take long for your brain to kick in by itself though, and you just "do" without any thought. What surprised me about making these videos with the camera on the sticks was just how much stick input I am giving without ever thinking I am. Thumbs are on complete autopilot
Nice work, CurryKitten. Solid, clear, sensible explanation. I watched your stick movements in the video several times and applied it to my flying this afternoon and within twenty minutes I was fly much more fluidly and maintaining speed. Something else I noticed I was getting a slightly longer flight time out of my batteries than I usually could. Not much, maybe 3 extra minutes; but it proved how much power I was wasting in getting the copter back up to speed. Thanks, and cheers.
Hey Brice - 3 extra minutes in mini quad terms is like a whole extra lipos :) Thanks so much for posting up your comment - I'm stoked the video help you out
Thanks for this. It helped me improve. I made a switch in my mindset from turning with yaw and compensating with roll to turning with roll and compensating with yaw. They of course work in unison, but just reversing the thought-process made a clear difference for me.
That's great - glad to hear it, and you'll be surprised how quickly it goes from having to consciously think about it to just doing it. It's not necessarily an obvious thing to work out for yourself - hence the reason for the video :)
Excellent info and clear presentation. I've also been moving from LOS Horizon to FPV acro and found myself more comfortable starting the turn with yaw then correcting with roll. I think I naturally wanted to see where I was going as soon as I could! Can't wait to get out and try thinking roll first! Glad I found your series.
Great this is the best video I’ve found that you explain it perfectly. Leading with the roll stick the correct with yaw has totally clicked for me. Thanks from a newbie well coming for Dji drones.
I have flown my drone a few times and I have been looking for some good videos to show me the things that I am having issues with. You hit most of them right on the head. I love that you show your stick movements. I watched all the previous videos just now. It looks like there are more to watch. I am excited to get back out and implement your advice!
Excellent series mate! I use to cringed when someone asked if I was flying Acro.. Thanks to your excellent way of explaining how to fly Acro, I have been flying in Acro mode ever since. I still have a ways to go but have been continuing to only fly Acro. I appreciate all the work you put into your videos! Cheers and happy flying!
Just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your work. I am a LOS flyer and not much interested in FPV but you have lots of information that translates well to LOS flying. It is hard to find info on just LOS acro flying, so you have to put bits, as you say, from everyone together to build your skills. Thanks for all the good bits…. LOL..
Hey, glad it helps a little. You have my respect... I don't enjoy LOS quads at all, but anyone who can tell which way a little X in the sky is facing, let alone which way up it is deserves praise.
The one thing that not many people mention, which you emphasize, is “flying forward”. When I was first learning to fly and trying to do turns I was having a hard time. Then I ran across a video showing flying forward and learning to make turns by steering the quad with yaw. Bang, it clicked. Not many instructional videos explain that if you just fly forward and learn to steer with yaw and roll you are flying and can get better fast.
Thank you so much. I got an arris250b last week. Had a hard time flying in acro. I watched this last night and went out on my break before and flew acro no problem. It like just clicked . Love your videos
thank you for these videos, I like the slow pace. I have seen other tutorials from the pro flying guys, but they tend to skip the basics. If you do more tutorial videos I would like to see a tight side way flip, with mine I loose a couple of meters in height.
Thank you for this! I'll practice more tomorrow. I've been in the simulator for 6hrs crashing because of the correction after the roll and yaw. now I know keep at it. In mind of opposite to correct the turn and it will come in time...
Hey, if it's not a word - I know what you mean, so that's good enough for me :) That Wizard 220 looks like a great affordable way to get going quickly - hope you have some fun with it !
Great clip, I watched this one for the first time because as an ex Heli flier, I thought I knew it already. Its very similar to a Heli, but it's not exactly the same.....So...lead with the roll, correct with the yaw...depending on speed....Great advice.
Self leveling has its benefits also, for example this "Co-ordinated turns" is not needed there, so it is one of the disadvantages of Acro mode :) Acro is somewhat similar to an old car which has almost no electronics in it, where as self-leveling is partially like a more modern car filled with helpful goodies, power brakes, power steering, abs, traction control, etc...
Self levelling does just that, it doesn't do anything in your turns. So if you want to do nice fluid turns - or much sharper ones, then a co-ordinated turn is something you'd want to do in either mode. Haha, old car indeed. I would use the analogy that acro is like driving a sports car where you want to feel what goes on, self-levelling... that's like driving a prius
Very good explanation of coordinated turns. Informative. And yes, I understand you well when you say you need more yaw / less roll for slow speed turns and less yaw / more roll for high speed turns. It's all related to the angle of the quad in the air, right? For the last few years, Ive been flying in angle mode on cheap toy-grade quads with LOS. Ive never tried acro or FPV but I'm really keen to give both a go one day. I'm really looking forward to doing banked turns in particular as it reminds me of when I carve a turn in snowboarding - hopefully a similar sensation. Ive also flown an rc plane for a total of three times (with 0 crashes surprisingly) and I wonder if that experience would be helpful in learning acro. Though it was a Delta Ray set to beginner's mode so there were restrictions placed on the amount of roll I could apply.
Yes - on your understanding of the difference of roll/yaw depending on pitch. As for turns like carving - I do tend to find that on a quad it can feel slightly less flowy, as they tend to be very precise about where the turn stops and starts. With 2-bladed props things are a little looser, but not quite as loose as with a plane or a tricopter over a quad. But try it and see :)
Thanks for taking the time to explain things clearly, also good to see a fellow brit doing tutorials too! I have been acro training indoors with a micro quad and coordinated turns have been the thorn in my side until you explained the more pitch the more roll is required, as I'm going slow indoors it seems more yaw is needed, kept on spinning like a catherine wheel and baffling me. Would you consider a LOS series as well as FPV?
Micro's handle a bit differently and you'll find they need less roll unless you really throw them into like a 180 degree turn. Is you quad running betaflight - if so, check out part one about using acro, as I talk about how change the curves in order to give yourself manageable control to your stick input - and you can tune yaw on it's own I'm not really the one to give any LOS tutorials, I'm not a great LOS flyer, and so I'd pretty much choose FPV flying instead in almost any circumstance :)
@@CurryKitten Im about to receive a RotorRiotHD1 and have been using your videos to practice, along with a sim. I have a lot fo wacting to do now that I have found the information so neatly packaged. Happy New Year!
A great useful video for those getting into this wicked hobby :p Maybe you could mention how to set up rates in betaflight. For example, if you wanted to fly at say 50% throttle while getting started. Just a thought
Hi Paul - thanks for the suggestion. One thing I go over in the previous part (I think) is the camera angle and the effect that has on things - i.e it's very easy to tilt it too far back, go gloriously fast - but essentially be out of control and unable to land ! Rates - and specifically how to make things a bit more gentle - should be covered in part 1 about flying in acro. Did you check these out already - if you think something is still missing, please let me know and I'll do my bes to plug any gaps.
CurryKitten I've yet to watch them all to be honest. Just an idea. Expect you've already covered it. I'll be watching all parts Have you tried any of the simulators? There's some pretty life like ones out now
second the comment below from Ido de Lepper, love your calm approach. One quick question if I may? The sounds on your taranis - are they custom? Daughter/neice? makes me laugh and think of doing something similar with my nephew.
Yes - I got my daughter to speak all the phrases when I first got the radio... when she was about 8 I think. I love the fact that all the intonation is completely different :)
I'd like to know about the way to get longer flight times i.e., what are the rules for replacing batteries with larger ones without frying the quad? propellers, etc.
There's no hard and fast answer - maxing out your flight time depends on the type/speed/size of motor and props. You want to be hovering at 50% throttle, and be able to fly forward quite happily without using much more. Less pitch, and less blades on the props less amps, but don't give as much lift. Basically you need to experiment. See what you can do to get more flight time out of your normal lipo before you try a larger one
Hi, I've watched your tutorials and it help allot. Like finding a lost quad, camera angel it really help thank you. Just want to ask if your are familiar with eachine falcon 250 that is my first racing drone until now. But still I am having difficulties on how to control it smoothly. Do you have any recommendation for its settings like pitch and roll, PID settings etc? TIA. Have a great day
I've never flown the Falcon, but it shouldn't be too much different to anything else. Generally speaking, I've barely touched any PID settings in the later versions of betaflight - only the super-rates. So I would say first off, make sure you are at the latest firmware (3.17 - unless 3.2 has actually been released now) - if you ESCs support Oneshot, make sure you use it. Being up to date on Betaflight and making sure your ESCs are running the best code they can support will often sort out those little wobbles that you can struggle for ages to try and tune out with PIDs
I have recently realized that turning is relative to a DRIFT CAR .....you need to slide into your coordinated turns....anticipate the next turn and prepare for it. HARDEST thing for me is the turning because i feel like my ass end does not turn with me! I am getting better
You'll also feel quite a difference depending on your props as well. 2 bladed props really do feel like more of a drift, while 3 bladed is a little more locked in
I have a Video to-do list and there are a few things that will help with this. One is about the use of air mode... don't drop your throttle to zero without something like this enabled, the other is about beginning acrobatics. So yes - if you like the "right" way to roll in order to do it flat, is to have a quick stab of the throttle and then drop it to zero as roll over. That's quite a lot of think about if you haven't done anything like that before - and depending on the speed of your roll rate, certain aspects become less necessary. The main thing to do when starting is to get plenty of height, and not worry about the throttle too much - it's more important to get a feel for how long your roll will take and stopping at the right point.
Hi, I'm beginner, when I make a coordinated turn, I've to make at same time the yaw and the roll, but I have to make at the same time the pitch back, too? For not to increase speed at the exit of the turn? Thanks. I follow you, I like your tutorials
Well, this is one of those "it depends" answers. Depending on your pitch and the speed you want to go into the turn and exit at, you might need to put in lots of small adjustments... which you will just come to do without thinking about it. I just had to rewatch the camera with my stick movements on to see what I'm actually doing, as I'm not consciously making any pitch changes, but I can see me making small adjustments both to pitch forward and back slightly. My advice would be to make some huge turns, like you are doing a big loop, as a coordinated turn - but try and keep that turn perfect. So you speed, altitude, pitch and roll angle all as still as you can - but to do this you'll have to make lots of very small movements just to keep things going perfectly. At first you'll be thinking about what stick movements to make in order to keep it there, but this soon turns into a subconcious action.
CurryKitten thank you. When I make the turns, at the exit of the turn the speed is greater than the entry of turn. Have I to pitch back at the same time at yaw and roll? For maintain the entry speed of the turn? Very thanks
I am learning to fly on a 150 quad. Whenever I make a turn, the view always seems to tilt horizontally so much to the direction of the turn. Is this normal, and how would you be able to get a more flat turn?
You can make a "flat" turn if all you do is yaw... although as explained depending how much forward tilt you have at the time will determine how flat this actually is. This sort of turn also won't allow you to "bite" in to the turn, you you'll turn but drift onwards. so having the horizontal moving like that is part of making a co-ordinated turn... it's ok.
Combining Roll/Yaw is the important aspect to pick up for the coordinated turns - there's always some corrections going into pitch and throttle, but that's going to depend a lot on what view you want as well as your speed going in/out of the turn and your camera tilt angle.
Yep - initially get some height just to make sure you can do a coordinated turn. Once you are happy that you are getting it and aren't going to fall out of the sky (should take no longer than a few minutes) is when you can bring it down to see if you can hold the same altitude all the way through the turn. You don't need to do it low - you just need a good fixed reference point - use the tops of some trees if you want to stay higher
When I take a wide banking turn, most of the time, the drone keeps drifting in the wide direction of the turn after i straighten out. what am i missing?
Sounds like your most likely straightening out before you are actually travelling in the direction you want. Remember it's very easy to point your quad in any direction, but it doesn't mean you are travelling in the direction you are facing. So you need to stay in your bank a little longer - you might end up over correcting at first and turning a little too far, but you'll soon get a feel for when you quad is flying in the direction you want and isn't going to drift
@@CurryKitten That makes sense, thank you! Whenever I do a quick level turn in the opposite direction, I slow down and am facing where I want to go. It definitely has to do with the banking. If I yaw just a half second before I roll, I usually don't undershoot.
One noob to another - expo puts a curve on your input (whether it's throttle, yaw, pitch or roll) making it less senssitive in the centre and more sensetive at the far extremes. The idea is that for normal flying you have accurate control on small inputs, but when you push the stick to the maximimum deflection you get crazy fast spin/roll speeds for acrobatic maneuvers. Hope this helps :)
Yes - absolutely right. Sorry, didn't answer the question, as I thought it was a suggestion for a future vid :) Worth mentioning though that as far as flying quads on Clean/Betaflight if you radio can do it's own rates and expo, then you can pretty much ignore it and just let the flight controller handle this
Being able to fly LOS is useful, but not essential. You should be able to bring your quad up in a hover and move it around a bit LOS tail-in... mostly as this is a good way of spotting any issues after a build/crash/other. I'm an awful LOS flyer - it bores me, so I've never made the effort to become good at it
Im having trouble figuring out why after I turn I seem to drift sideways instead of being pointed straight . Do you have any insight to why this happens ? Thx
Do you mean you complete the turn but you are facing one way but sort of flying in a diagonal? It sounds like you could be pointing you quad in the direction you want, but you have't flown through the the turn long enough, so the inertia is still carrying you partly in the original direction. Try doing some longer sweeping turns and don't be in a rush to straighten out right away until you are all the way around. It'll give you more of a feel for when you've done enough turning to be able to put that feeling into tighter turns
Are you asking if the way you turn is different in stablized mode (line angle/horizon) vs Acro? The answer is yes and no. Whilst the combination of stick movement are the same, you'd need to hold the sticks in position in stab mode as the quad will want to return to flat if you let it go. In Acro, you will just need to put in smaller corrections after your initial turn. Try and fly in Acro if you can for much smoother manouvers
Yes - quite a different flying experience. If it helps, I don't find there's there's an issue moving between the two. I go back on my Naza based 3-axis gimbal quad and I happily push the camera around the sky in GPS hold - then switch to my race quad for some fast fun. I've not mixed the two up so far :)
It's been a while since I compared - and running on a Mac doesn't give the best experience on many of them. I actually seem to be one of the few people who had the best experience with LiftOff. I'd always suggest trying to get out and fly for real over a sim though, the lack of risk means that the amazing moves you can pull off in a sim doesn't necessary carry though to real life.
Great tutorial, I like the way you explain, easy to follow and everything makes sense. One thing though, I'm sorry but I find the voice from your TX a bit annoying.
Yay - go me (and you !) If the 5 people that disliked it want to tell me why, then I could maybe address something in another video... but alas, they remain anonymous
I think it depends on the individual. For me, LOS and FPV are two quite different skill sets and being proficient in one doesn't always carry through to the other. I can also have what looks like a smooth LOS flight, but when I look at the DVR footage it's anything but, so it's why I always so FPV FPV FPV :) Whatever get's it into your muscle memory though
Currykitten makes such a good teacher. May God bless him.
I'm 70, fly a Mavic Pro and have been recently looking into FPV. Out of all of the videos I have watched and the different sims I've played, I have learned more in these few videos about Acro flying. Thank you.
Good to hear it - hope you take the plunge and give it a go :)
I've been looking for videos like this for a while now. Keep up the excellent work, it's been nothing short of great help! Thank you
Thanks for the feedback - glad it helping :) Some more stuff coming up soon
I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos. I have been flying for about 6 months but am just now figuring out acro. I am using a simulator for now to learn but eventually want to do the real thing. Coordinated turns has to be my hardest thing so far to learn. Your video has put it in terms I can understand and relate to. Thanks again. Keep up the good work.
Coordinated turns are tricky at first because you have to consciously think about what you are doing. It doesn't take long for your brain to kick in by itself though, and you just "do" without any thought. What surprised me about making these videos with the camera on the sticks was just how much stick input I am giving without ever thinking I am. Thumbs are on complete autopilot
Nice work, CurryKitten. Solid, clear, sensible explanation. I watched your stick movements in the video several times and applied it to my flying this afternoon and within twenty minutes I was fly much more fluidly and maintaining speed. Something else I noticed I was getting a slightly longer flight time out of my batteries than I usually could. Not much, maybe 3 extra minutes; but it proved how much power I was wasting in getting the copter back up to speed. Thanks, and cheers.
Hey Brice - 3 extra minutes in mini quad terms is like a whole extra lipos :) Thanks so much for posting up your comment - I'm stoked the video help you out
Finally the long awaited!
The moral of the story: yaw & roll & just do it!
Very informative video as always!
Loved watching that little series of videos, you'll be glad to know people are still learning from them a few years later cheers. 👍🏻
Thanks for this. It helped me improve. I made a switch in my mindset from turning with yaw and compensating with roll to turning with roll and compensating with yaw. They of course work in unison, but just reversing the thought-process made a clear difference for me.
That's great - glad to hear it, and you'll be surprised how quickly it goes from having to consciously think about it to just doing it. It's not necessarily an obvious thing to work out for yourself - hence the reason for the video :)
Excellent info and clear presentation. I've also been moving from LOS Horizon to FPV acro and found myself more comfortable starting the turn with yaw then correcting with roll. I think I naturally wanted to see where I was going as soon as I could! Can't wait to get out and try thinking roll first! Glad I found your series.
Great this is the best video I’ve found that you explain it perfectly. Leading with the roll stick the correct with yaw has totally clicked for me. Thanks from a newbie well coming for Dji drones.
Glad it was helpful!
I have flown my drone a few times and I have been looking for some good videos to show me the things that I am having issues with. You hit most of them right on the head. I love that you show your stick movements. I watched all the previous videos just now. It looks like there are more to watch. I am excited to get back out and implement your advice!
Dude you're a great teacher.
This is exactly how you teach people ~how to acro~
+1 for you good sir.
These videos are so damn useful, as a new fpv flyer i don't know what the hell to do with most things, but these videos have helped a lot
Excellent series mate! I use to cringed when someone asked if I was flying Acro.. Thanks to your excellent way of explaining how to fly Acro, I have been flying in Acro mode ever since. I still have a ways to go but have been continuing to only fly Acro. I appreciate all the work you put into your videos! Cheers and happy flying!
Nice one - I love hearing people making the transition and getting it to 'click' :)
Thanks a ton for this series of videos. They help a ton. And yes, your description of yaw and roll when trying to turn made sense (to me).
Just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your work. I am a LOS flyer and not much interested in FPV but you have lots of information that translates well to LOS flying. It is hard to find info on just LOS acro flying, so you have to put bits, as you say, from everyone together to build your skills. Thanks for all the good bits…. LOL..
Hey, glad it helps a little. You have my respect... I don't enjoy LOS quads at all, but anyone who can tell which way a little X in the sky is facing, let alone which way up it is deserves praise.
The one thing that not many people mention, which you emphasize, is “flying forward”. When I was first learning to fly and trying to do turns I was having a hard time. Then I ran across a video showing flying forward and learning to make turns by steering the quad with yaw. Bang, it clicked. Not many instructional videos explain that if you just fly forward and learn to steer with yaw and roll you are flying and can get better fast.
Very well done I have benefited greatly from your tutorials! And it feels like I'm back at home in clitheroe.
Thank you so much. I got an arris250b last week. Had a hard time flying in acro. I watched this last night and went out on my break before and flew acro no problem. It like just clicked . Love your videos
Great to hear your progress ! Thanks for the nice comment
Terrific little physics demo, loved it.
Thank you. Your tutorials are helping my transition to flying arco mode.
Great to hear!
this is super helpful! thanks so much!this makes sense - coordinate turns is a mix of both yaw and roll and considering your speed as well..
Glad it was helpful!
Great video series. I am just now getting into fpv quad flying. Great tips that are easy to follow. Keep up the great work.
thank you for these videos, I like the slow pace. I have seen other tutorials from the pro flying guys, but they tend to skip the basics. If you do more tutorial videos I would like to see a tight side way flip, with mine I loose a couple of meters in height.
Cool - ok, well I was thinking about how to start on flips and rolls at some point, so that will fit in well
Well said.
Thank you for these videos, I'll be looking forward to the next one.
This is good stuff really like this is you are doing a series all the way through in progression as there is nothing out there cheers
Thanks great info on turning. Thanks for posting this video! 🇨🇦
Excellent series! Looking forward to my first acro fpv flight tomorrow
Good luck !
CurryKitten thanks, only been flying tiny whoops so far
Thank you for this! I'll practice more tomorrow. I've been in the simulator for 6hrs crashing because of the correction after the roll and yaw. now I know keep at it. In mind of opposite to correct the turn and it will come in time...
Keep at it - it just becomes a natural thing to do without thinking about it :)
clear explanation on acro mode turning - thx
Thanks for making these vids, it reaffirmes (that a word?) what ive got in my head as i wait for my wizard 220 to arrive
Hey, if it's not a word - I know what you mean, so that's good enough for me :) That Wizard 220 looks like a great affordable way to get going quickly - hope you have some fun with it !
I've been doing this for ages on my sim and I wasn't sure if it was correct. Thanks!
Great clip, I watched this one for the first time because as an ex Heli flier, I thought I knew it already. Its very similar to a Heli, but it's not exactly the same.....So...lead with the roll, correct with the yaw...depending on speed....Great advice.
Great serie honestly :)
But i mostly watch them for listening to your Taranis countdown lol Damn, i need a daughter LOL
Have a great sunday
You can make one of them, you just need a willing partner first.... the rest of the instructions I'll let you work out for yourself ;)
Great work, mate! Cheers!
love those baby voices :))
keep making these beginers guidence, there usefull for many people .)
NICE VIDEO MAN, HELPED A LOT
This has helped me so much thanks.
Self leveling has its benefits also, for example this "Co-ordinated turns" is not needed there, so it is one of the disadvantages of Acro mode :) Acro is somewhat similar to an old car which has almost no electronics in it, where as self-leveling is partially like a more modern car filled with helpful goodies, power brakes, power steering, abs, traction control, etc...
Self levelling does just that, it doesn't do anything in your turns. So if you want to do nice fluid turns - or much sharper ones, then a co-ordinated turn is something you'd want to do in either mode. Haha, old car indeed. I would use the analogy that acro is like driving a sports car where you want to feel what goes on, self-levelling... that's like driving a prius
i got this, master. i'll keep learning :)
Very good explanation of coordinated turns. Informative. And yes, I understand you well when you say you need more yaw / less roll for slow speed turns and less yaw / more roll for high speed turns. It's all related to the angle of the quad in the air, right?
For the last few years, Ive been flying in angle mode on cheap toy-grade quads with LOS. Ive never tried acro or FPV but I'm really keen to give both a go one day. I'm really looking forward to doing banked turns in particular as it reminds me of when I carve a turn in snowboarding - hopefully a similar sensation. Ive also flown an rc plane for a total of three times (with 0 crashes surprisingly) and I wonder if that experience would be helpful in learning acro. Though it was a Delta Ray set to beginner's mode so there were restrictions placed on the amount of roll I could apply.
Yes - on your understanding of the difference of roll/yaw depending on pitch. As for turns like carving - I do tend to find that on a quad it can feel slightly less flowy, as they tend to be very precise about where the turn stops and starts. With 2-bladed props things are a little looser, but not quite as loose as with a plane or a tricopter over a quad. But try it and see :)
Thanks for taking the time to explain things clearly, also good to see a fellow brit doing tutorials too! I have been acro training indoors with a micro quad and coordinated turns have been the thorn in my side until you explained the more pitch the more roll is required, as I'm going slow indoors it seems more yaw is needed, kept on spinning like a catherine wheel and baffling me. Would you consider a LOS series as well as FPV?
Micro's handle a bit differently and you'll find they need less roll unless you really throw them into like a 180 degree turn. Is you quad running betaflight - if so, check out part one about using acro, as I talk about how change the curves in order to give yourself manageable control to your stick input - and you can tune yaw on it's own
I'm not really the one to give any LOS tutorials, I'm not a great LOS flyer, and so I'd pretty much choose FPV flying instead in almost any circumstance :)
Good video thank you for sharing
I could do with some tips on how to manage my lipo's such as when to stop flying and storage charge. Thanks
ah - ok, that's an interesting one. Noted down for a future video
excellent
This is so helpful! Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful!
@@CurryKitten Im about to receive a RotorRiotHD1 and have been using your videos to practice, along with a sim. I have a lot fo wacting to do now that I have found the information so neatly packaged. Happy New Year!
A great useful video for those getting into this wicked hobby :p
Maybe you could mention how to set up rates in betaflight. For example, if you wanted to fly at say 50% throttle while getting started. Just a thought
Hi Paul - thanks for the suggestion. One thing I go over in the previous part (I think) is the camera angle and the effect that has on things - i.e it's very easy to tilt it too far back, go gloriously fast - but essentially be out of control and unable to land ! Rates - and specifically how to make things a bit more gentle - should be covered in part 1 about flying in acro. Did you check these out already - if you think something is still missing, please let me know and I'll do my bes to plug any gaps.
CurryKitten I've yet to watch them all to be honest. Just an idea. Expect you've already covered it. I'll be watching all parts
Have you tried any of the simulators? There's some pretty life like ones out now
second the comment below from Ido de Lepper, love your calm approach. One quick question if I may? The sounds on your taranis - are they custom? Daughter/neice? makes me laugh and think of doing something similar with my nephew.
Yes - I got my daughter to speak all the phrases when I first got the radio... when she was about 8 I think. I love the fact that all the intonation is completely different :)
Good video. Subbed.
I'd like to know about the way to get longer flight times i.e., what are the rules for replacing batteries with larger ones without frying the quad? propellers, etc.
There's no hard and fast answer - maxing out your flight time depends on the type/speed/size of motor and props. You want to be hovering at 50% throttle, and be able to fly forward quite happily without using much more. Less pitch, and less blades on the props less amps, but don't give as much lift. Basically you need to experiment. See what you can do to get more flight time out of your normal lipo before you try a larger one
excellent. cheers
amazing videos. thanks
Hi, I've watched your tutorials and it help allot. Like finding a lost quad, camera angel it really help thank you. Just want to ask if your are familiar with eachine falcon 250 that is my first racing drone until now. But still I am having difficulties on how to control it smoothly. Do you have any recommendation for its settings like pitch and roll, PID settings etc? TIA. Have a great day
I've never flown the Falcon, but it shouldn't be too much different to anything else. Generally speaking, I've barely touched any PID settings in the later versions of betaflight - only the super-rates. So I would say first off, make sure you are at the latest firmware (3.17 - unless 3.2 has actually been released now) - if you ESCs support Oneshot, make sure you use it. Being up to date on Betaflight and making sure your ESCs are running the best code they can support will often sort out those little wobbles that you can struggle for ages to try and tune out with PIDs
Thank you CurryKitten.
I have recently realized that turning is relative to a DRIFT CAR .....you need to slide into your coordinated turns....anticipate the next turn and prepare for it. HARDEST thing for me is the turning because i feel like my ass end does not turn with me! I am getting better
You'll also feel quite a difference depending on your props as well. 2 bladed props really do feel like more of a drift, while 3 bladed is a little more locked in
If I want to roll at full stick do i need reduce throttle to idle ?
btw tips are very useful ! :-)
I have a Video to-do list and there are a few things that will help with this. One is about the use of air mode... don't drop your throttle to zero without something like this enabled, the other is about beginning acrobatics. So yes - if you like the "right" way to roll in order to do it flat, is to have a quick stab of the throttle and then drop it to zero as roll over. That's quite a lot of think about if you haven't done anything like that before - and depending on the speed of your roll rate, certain aspects become less necessary. The main thing to do when starting is to get plenty of height, and not worry about the throttle too much - it's more important to get a feel for how long your roll will take and stopping at the right point.
Hi, I'm beginner, when I make a coordinated turn, I've to make at same time the yaw and the roll, but I have to make at the same time the pitch back, too? For not to increase speed at the exit of the turn? Thanks. I follow you, I like your tutorials
Well, this is one of those "it depends" answers. Depending on your pitch and the speed you want to go into the turn and exit at, you might need to put in lots of small adjustments... which you will just come to do without thinking about it. I just had to rewatch the camera with my stick movements on to see what I'm actually doing, as I'm not consciously making any pitch changes, but I can see me making small adjustments both to pitch forward and back slightly.
My advice would be to make some huge turns, like you are doing a big loop, as a coordinated turn - but try and keep that turn perfect. So you speed, altitude, pitch and roll angle all as still as you can - but to do this you'll have to make lots of very small movements just to keep things going perfectly. At first you'll be thinking about what stick movements to make in order to keep it there, but this soon turns into a subconcious action.
CurryKitten thank you. When I make the turns, at the exit of the turn the speed is greater than the entry of turn. Have I to pitch back at the same time at yaw and roll? For maintain the entry speed of the turn? Very thanks
I refer to make a circle with a banked turn
Thank you!
I am learning to fly on a 150 quad. Whenever I make a turn, the view always seems to tilt horizontally so much to the direction of the turn. Is this normal, and how would you be able to get a more flat turn?
You can make a "flat" turn if all you do is yaw... although as explained depending how much forward tilt you have at the time will determine how flat this actually is. This sort of turn also won't allow you to "bite" in to the turn, you you'll turn but drift onwards. so having the horizontal moving like that is part of making a co-ordinated turn... it's ok.
Roll, Yaw and I also see you pitching backward in curves to keep the quad from flying into the ground, right?!
Combining Roll/Yaw is the important aspect to pick up for the coordinated turns - there's always some corrections going into pitch and throttle, but that's going to depend a lot on what view you want as well as your speed going in/out of the turn and your camera tilt angle.
Is it a good idea to take some height before trying these corners? Greets from Germany where fpv is illegal eben youre going further then 100meters;)
Yep - initially get some height just to make sure you can do a coordinated turn. Once you are happy that you are getting it and aren't going to fall out of the sky (should take no longer than a few minutes) is when you can bring it down to see if you can hold the same altitude all the way through the turn. You don't need to do it low - you just need a good fixed reference point - use the tops of some trees if you want to stay higher
When I take a wide banking turn, most of the time, the drone keeps drifting in the wide direction of the turn after i straighten out. what am i missing?
Sounds like your most likely straightening out before you are actually travelling in the direction you want. Remember it's very easy to point your quad in any direction, but it doesn't mean you are travelling in the direction you are facing. So you need to stay in your bank a little longer - you might end up over correcting at first and turning a little too far, but you'll soon get a feel for when you quad is flying in the direction you want and isn't going to drift
@@CurryKitten That makes sense, thank you! Whenever I do a quick level turn in the opposite direction, I slow down and am facing where I want to go. It definitely has to do with the banking. If I yaw just a half second before I roll, I usually don't undershoot.
Could you explain what expo is and how it works? A lot of the 'pros' use it (or don't) and I'd like to know how it works. Thanks :)
One noob to another - expo puts a curve on your input (whether it's throttle, yaw, pitch or roll) making it less senssitive in the centre and more sensetive at the far extremes. The idea is that for normal flying you have accurate control on small inputs, but when you push the stick to the maximimum deflection you get crazy fast spin/roll speeds for acrobatic maneuvers. Hope this helps :)
stubee FPV oke cheers. A bit of Roll Expo for fast snappy rolls when the stick is fully stretched
Yes - absolutely right. Sorry, didn't answer the question, as I thought it was a suggestion for a future vid :) Worth mentioning though that as far as flying quads on Clean/Betaflight if you radio can do it's own rates and expo, then you can pretty much ignore it and just let the flight controller handle this
CurryKitten cheers, it was originally a video idea, it would be clearer to see it all in action. Many thanks
~Jonah
Would you advice LOS before fpv?
Ty for video`s.
Being able to fly LOS is useful, but not essential. You should be able to bring your quad up in a hover and move it around a bit LOS tail-in... mostly as this is a good way of spotting any issues after a build/crash/other. I'm an awful LOS flyer - it bores me, so I've never made the effort to become good at it
Hey CK turns are where i am having the most problems. i just dont know where i'm going wrong?
Did this help at all? Whats going on with your turns
Very nice spot for drone. Where is that?
It's a place that no longer looks like that - it's all houses now :(
Im having trouble figuring out why after I turn I seem to drift sideways instead of being pointed straight . Do you have any insight to why this happens ? Thx
Do you mean you complete the turn but you are facing one way but sort of flying in a diagonal? It sounds like you could be pointing you quad in the direction you want, but you have't flown through the the turn long enough, so the inertia is still carrying you partly in the original direction. Try doing some longer sweeping turns and don't be in a rush to straighten out right away until you are all the way around. It'll give you more of a feel for when you've done enough turning to be able to put that feeling into tighter turns
CurryKitten that’s exactly it. Thank you I will try your advice.
would that be different for manual/acrade, and auto mode? thanks.
Are you asking if the way you turn is different in stablized mode (line angle/horizon) vs Acro? The answer is yes and no. Whilst the combination of stick movement are the same, you'd need to hold the sticks in position in stab mode as the quad will want to return to flat if you let it go. In Acro, you will just need to put in smaller corrections after your initial turn. Try and fly in Acro if you can for much smoother manouvers
goood tut i watched all. i fly gps phantom line so that way different than these racing qUads. i ordered the wizard x220.. i need goggle next .
Yes - quite a different flying experience. If it helps, I don't find there's there's an issue moving between the two. I go back on my Naza based 3-axis gimbal quad and I happily push the camera around the sky in GPS hold - then switch to my race quad for some fast fun. I've not mixed the two up so far :)
What simulator would you recommend.
It's been a while since I compared - and running on a Mac doesn't give the best experience on many of them. I actually seem to be one of the few people who had the best experience with LiftOff. I'd always suggest trying to get out and fly for real over a sim though, the lack of risk means that the amazing moves you can pull off in a sim doesn't necessary carry though to real life.
Great tutorial, I like the way you explain, easy to follow and everything makes sense.
One thing though, I'm sorry but I find the voice from your TX a bit annoying.
Being my daughter's voice - I guess it should only be something that I'd want really... makes me take notice more than the normal robot voice :)
What's your throttle curve like?
I don't have one, it's linear
# 420 on likes....kick ass...
Yay - go me (and you !) If the 5 people that disliked it want to tell me why, then I could maybe address something in another video... but alas, they remain anonymous
ya...what the hay....it just adds contrast I'd say..
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Great video but i think this skill should be learnt with line of sight as you say its a feeling kind of more than a skill at first
I think it depends on the individual. For me, LOS and FPV are two quite different skill sets and being proficient in one doesn't always carry through to the other. I can also have what looks like a smooth LOS flight, but when I look at the DVR footage it's anything but, so it's why I always so FPV FPV FPV :) Whatever get's it into your muscle memory though