Hay Ken I have been in this Hobby since 1971 and the other best way to learn about flying is the SIMS, simulators are the best way to learn how to fly. Keep it up best Hobby in the world, started when I was 9 with airplanes and my wife got me into FPV after I became disabled I lost my pilots license but now I can fly again. Great job and Great video.
I love how he reacted to digital. That’s exactly how I was when I saw how clear it was. Same reaction my friends all have the first time I let them fly. It’s crazy how good it looks.
I wish this video was out when I was learning to fly! But I did these exact same exercises myself. Started maintaining elevation while doing figure 8’s and stuff. Awesome. Sending this to all my training buds.
I've been practicing on a simulator with my Xbox controller. I'm learning that small movements is key. It's actually made me better at first person shooters. Having more finesse with the sticks
Congrate Ken, i am into FPV too, the most common mistake that we are from camera drone is the throttle position, which i used with DJI/Autel where is the throttle starting from middle but for FPV drone the throttle staring from the lowest point. Now i get used to that. Also a camera drone is slower than fpv drone. My first time flying a FPV drone was like flying a fighter jet compare to a jumbo jet
If you use a black box enabled FC or controller you can pull out the stick data and have an animated set of sticks so we can see the movements without fingers.
Sing was way more patient than I could ever be and I’m fairly new too. 😂 moving from helis to drones is an interesting perspective but it makes you respect the machine. IMO helis are much harder to learn and quads are more aggressive. You feel confident but fly within your abilities and push the line to learn, don’t cross the line, that gets expensive lol
The Mr croc comes with DJI, props out of view configuration, GPS so that it returns to home if you lose signal and Bluetooth so you can hit beta flight through your cell phone
Nice, you're really picking it up quickly! Good tips by Sing - For higher precision flying I also would recommend acro rates around 400 - 500 degress/ sec, and also a throttle scale limit of around 50 to 60%. Lower rates and throttle response like that will sort of force you to fly smoother and plan ahead a bit more instead of reacting. It may just be perspective, but, you've got me worried you're going to hurt yourself at 16:34 . You're launching awfully close to yourself and not leaving much room for error. be careful by walking a few steps further after setting the quad down to launch.
Cool tip i just figured out with the dji controller. If you hold the C button down till it beeps. It locks the flight controls and will prevent accidental arming during retrieval and batteries changes. Then to unlock just hold the button down till it beeps again. You can still use the menu controls on the controller while this option is active. Ps fun video.
I like to use angle mode for Landing only, without Air mode on. That way I'm have the practice flipping switches while flying. And 100% throttle cut off. For the landing. Air and Acro mode of the rest of the time. Happy flying✌
Line of sight you should have a distinctive drone shape or colouring that lets you tell it’s orientation. And using an auto level mode might be a good idea for line of sight too.
You got this dude, just keep practicing every day until you're comfortable with it...also, get a powered buzzer so you dont loose your quad...ViFly Finder 2 will scream for 2 weeks and flashes a strobelight to help you find it ;)
It's hidden about four pages deep in the Go app, hence why most DJI pilots go "huh?" when you mention it as most have never got past the takeoff slider lol.
I'm surprised he didn't teach you about turtle mode! Seriously, it's a magical switch that saves you from having to walk large distances to retrieve your kwad 😛
Thanks Ken for extra confidence. Seeing You crashing your quad on every occasion with a smile on your face made me less worry about my own quads :D and take it with the smile :D
Ken if I may recommend some starter rates for you Try theses Pitch & Roll 1.05-78-15 or 20 expo Yaw 1.10-75-15 or 20 expo or you could try my rates 1.40-72-15 Yaw 1.10-72-15 for more smoothness around center use 20 expo for that cinematic feel & look I think you'd benefit from theses rates
youre doin fine, the slow stuff really is the hardest, but the safety thing you need to think of is what happens when a fast quad hits a branch or a tripod? they oftengo full tasmanian devil when they clip something, the gyro just goes apey, so factor in how close you go to yourself/people, when there are possible branches or wires to clip, if youre travlin at 60mph and clip a branch you didnt see, the quad could easily go wild for 60feet in any direction.
I disagree with the advice that rates don't matter. Rates compatible with your body's movements will change everything. Soften that center with super rates, like 0.8 or 0.9 then reduce the RC rate down until you have a max rate of around 500 for slow rates or up to 900ish for fast "juicy" flicks. (less or more is fine with the soft center. It won't spin fast until you get to the end of the throw).
Nice flying Ken and awesome mentor you have. If you want to fly smoother and have more control over qwad i would suggest downing your rc rates from default 667° to 450-550°, adding rc expo to 0.45 at least, throttle limit to 65% and give it a try
Thanks for this video his advice was so good and things you would not know bye other fpv video I have taken so much info from this video he is a good teacher and should do more has he got videos on here ?
I flew LOS first and learned to fly quads LOS and still fly mainly LOS. I had ALOT of problems with I first flew FPV because of camera angle. I had to basically take off pitching forward to even begin to see where I was going because my camera angle was so great. Ive heard that several FPV pilots can't fly LOS and I just don't get it. I find flying LOS much easier lol.
After searching around, I finally found a drone simulator that works with my XBox One controller. It's on Steam and it's called FPV Drone Simulator. I'm not exactly sure how accurate it is. I played around with it and it was actually kinda fun. Again, I'm hoping the way the drone behaves in the game is similar how they behave in real life.
Now to just practice flying an entire pack or 2 without any flippy floppys.... which is surprisingly difficult to fight that urge. But doing so will help you focus on control
Hi Ken I loved watching this learning video there with your guest great teacher, you Ken even flies well in relation to me I still don't fly in ACRO mode but I will get there 🤔 Making laughs is up to you. Keep up the good work 👍👌😏🤗🔝
I'm still learning, but I can tell you that flying in ACRO is the mode you should learn in. The other modes are there just for emergency recovery. Give it a try!👍
I've watched this video a dozen times, get a kick out of it every time. When you switched on full acro, was the same exact thing that happened to me. lol If you are ever up in Maryland/PA area, would love to run over and do some droning with ya! I just got into FPV last month and put up my Day 6 video, starting to get the throttle control down and low flight, splitting trees, etc. Cops came too, made a good clip in the edit, haha.
For a beginner and even intermediate, it's a positive having the ability to switch to Angle or Horizon mode, it's a "get out of jail" mode for those learning to have some stability to recover.
@@MagicFPV and that's fine, we all learn differently, but even as a fairly competent FPVer I always configure these modes as a failsafe for my quads, just incase.
Ken for God's sake get an acro frame to get props n motors out of view & protect ur air unit Edit... Ken said it lol yeay Edit again,.....sing agrees, great frame choice
What he said about camera angle increasing the amount of yaw and roll you need isn't necessarily true. When you are below 45 degrees, you're mostly using yaw. Above 45 degrees you're mostly using roll. At 45 degrees you're using both equally. So the higher your camera angle, the more you have to use roll and yaw to turn up until you get to 45. If you're running 60 degree camera angle, you're pretty much just using roll to turn. I've found that actually everything feels a lot more locked in with higher camera angles BUT it's much much much higher risk. So definitely keep it low for a while but also, after a couple months of flying, don't feel like you can't start upping the angle. And after 45 it starts getting easier again. I was one of the telling you to use a lower camera angle and I definitely think you still should. I'm just saying that "it gets harder as you go up" isn't necessarily true. In my opinion, throttle management gets easier the higher you go up until about 60 degrees or so, or wherever you quad has the power to keep the horizon level at. Controlling the speed you want to be flying and landing and hovering and those sorts of things get harder as you increase your camera angle. Doing quick turns while keeping a steady altitude becomes very easy at higher angles compared to lower levels. So there's pros and cons to raising and lowering the angle, but it's best to start low where there's low risk and start gradually moving it up so you can get used to the quirks of each angle slowly over over time. Also, it's not too early to change rates. Maybe you don't want to be fussing with them all the time but I can tell your rates are too high if they're anywhere near what sing was flying. You CAN fly with higher rates but everything will be smoother, more cinematic and pleasant to watch, locked in, and more precise with lower rates. A lot of people make rates sound like something that's like super personal but a good starting point will get you like at least 70% of the way there, if not more. So in perspective, rates would be like 70% objective and only 30% personal. The fact of the matter is, if you're not pushing the sticks all the way to the edge, there's a lot resolution you're not getting. You're losing lots of control and precision. So you want to keep lowering the rate until you're pushing the sticks all the way. A good place to start would be about 400 degrees per second across the board with no expo. With a low camera angle, it might be good to have roll at 330 or so with yaw and pitch at 400 if you wanted, or you can just do 400 everywhere. Expo takes away resolution at the ends of the sticks movements with the gain of being able to do faster flips and stuff. There's no reason to have any expo where you're at. Get as much resolution as possible. If you go down to 400 it will feel really weird at first but once you get used to it, everything will feel much better and you'll have much more control. And those rates aren't really any slower than the fastest racers in the world. Bardwell and Vanover both recommend lower rates like that; you can watch their video on that if you're skeptical. It makes a huge difference though and you absolutely should be using lower rates. Finally, while you may benefit from doing exercises like keeping the horizon level and keeping steady throttle or whatever else, and you may realize in your brain that you'd benefit from that, I think it's pretty clear that the joy and fun of flight is kinda ruining your focus and ability to really put in the time. You even told me that you recognize you need more sim practice but just don't feel like it haha. So I think rather than trying to force yourself to do boring exercises, you should be challenging yourself. You're already at a point where you're clearly confident going and doing flips and doing your own thing even when instructed not to , so just be confident and do your own thing and challenge yourself (safely). I think that's what will help you get better at this point without being boring. I'd recommend making your first gate. You can buy one (pretty expensive) or make one for like a third or half of the cost. If you want to make one, just use 3/4" PVC to make 5ftx5ft squares and put a little base on them so they stand upright. Cover them with pool noodles and cover the pool noodles with white duct tape (Bardwell has a video on these DIY gates). Or buy gates for like twice the price, either way. But if you get yourself 1-3 gates and start challenging yourself to just fly through them, you'll have the fun of being able to do it, the challenge of pushing yourself and not crashing, and you'll naturally have to start getting better at things like throttle management without even needing to do boring exercises. I think you're ready to start crashing into gates and, going at the speed you'd be going with so a low camera angle and being only like 5 feet off the ground, you won't likely damage much crashing into grass like that. This will drastically make you better at flying and give you something objective to measure your success with. So get some gates and keep flying! You're getting better every video!
@@Fedoteh1991 haha thanks! 2 years later I still agree with pretty much everything I wrote here! And I’m not making a book but I spend enough time writing this stuff out that I did decide to finally make a video course (2 years later lol). Still counts right?
I enjoyed the heck out of this one. Sing was extremely patient but almost lost his patience a couple of times. 🤣🤣🤣
He wasn't very patient at all actually. Seems like their old friends though so it's cool.
Hay Ken I have been in this Hobby since 1971 and the other best way to learn about flying is the SIMS, simulators are the best way to learn how to fly. Keep it up best Hobby in the world, started when I was 9 with airplanes and my wife got me into FPV after I became disabled I lost my pilots license but now I can fly again. Great job and Great video.
this is the coolest thing ever!!.......Sing knows his FPV and you two going back and forth is hilarious ! @Ken Heron
He's s super nice guy.
I was glad he offered me an afternoon to help me.
@@KenHeron
i will never use dji again, and rotor riot has lost its mind.
a mans gotta have principles. - clint eastwood ❤
I love how he reacted to digital. That’s exactly how I was when I saw how clear it was. Same reaction my friends all have the first time I let them fly. It’s crazy how good it looks.
I wish this video was out when I was learning to fly! But I did these exact same exercises myself. Started maintaining elevation while doing figure 8’s and stuff. Awesome. Sending this to all my training buds.
Nothing like early morn' FPV! GREAT tidbits in this one.
I've been practicing on a simulator with my Xbox controller. I'm learning that small movements is key. It's actually made me better at first person shooters. Having more finesse with the sticks
That's wonderful!
😎🤘
Congrate Ken, i am into FPV too, the most common mistake that we are from camera drone is the throttle position, which i used with DJI/Autel where is the throttle starting from middle but for FPV drone the throttle staring from the lowest point. Now i get used to that. Also a camera drone is slower than fpv drone. My first time flying a FPV drone was like flying a fighter jet compare to a jumbo jet
it's good to show how you learn fpv process! It's makes me learn a lot too
I love it when people chime in on there inner child 😊
Sing was smiling.. very happy sing 😂 I like his car too..
he’s a good guy, love the dji fpv, they just turn mud into gold with everything they touch.
Another fun video to watch! I'm new to FPV drones, and just went DJI after one analog experience. I'll never go back to analog!
If you use a black box enabled FC or controller you can pull out the stick data and have an animated set of sticks so we can see the movements without fingers.
Sing was way more patient than I could ever be and I’m fairly new too. 😂 moving from helis to drones is an interesting perspective but it makes you respect the machine. IMO helis are much harder to learn and quads are more aggressive. You feel confident but fly within your abilities and push the line to learn, don’t cross the line, that gets expensive lol
You finally lowered the camera angle!!! Thank you! ... and you’re welcome 😉
Yes, and thank you!!👍
The Mr croc comes with DJI, props out of view configuration, GPS so that it returns to home if you lose signal and Bluetooth so you can hit beta flight through your cell phone
Nice, you're really picking it up quickly! Good tips by Sing - For higher precision flying I also would recommend acro rates around 400 - 500 degress/ sec, and also a throttle scale limit of around 50 to 60%. Lower rates and throttle response like that will sort of force you to fly smoother and plan ahead a bit more instead of reacting.
It may just be perspective, but, you've got me worried you're going to hurt yourself at 16:34 . You're launching awfully close to yourself and not leaving much room for error. be careful by walking a few steps further after setting the quad down to launch.
Cool tip i just figured out with the dji controller. If you hold the C button down till it beeps. It locks the flight controls and will prevent accidental arming during retrieval and batteries changes. Then to unlock just hold the button down till it beeps again. You can still use the menu controls on the controller while this option is active. Ps fun video.
Stick time is stick time it gets better the more you fly. If your ever upstate NY and you want to meet up we can fly together. Keep practicing!!
Thanks Ken. Entertainment when we need it. Stay safe.
Lmfaoooo I love Sing so much.. he needs his own series teaching newbies how to fly FPV 😂😂
Geez nearly thought you called yourself an expert there
HAHA, yeah me too, I thought he was saying it as a joke.
I just love your videos Ken. Always a bright ray of sunshine. Thank you
I like to use angle mode for Landing only, without Air mode on. That way I'm have the practice flipping switches while flying. And 100% throttle cut off. For the landing.
Air and Acro mode of the rest of the time. Happy flying✌
😁😁👏👏Glad you got an instructor.... Learning from another pilot is far easier then going it alone..
Absolutely!!
I wanna go around the portapotty!
Go around the portapotty...
Sing is a gem...
Line of sight you should have a distinctive drone shape or colouring that lets you tell it’s orientation. And using an auto level mode might be a good idea for line of sight too.
You got this dude, just keep practicing every day until you're comfortable with it...also, get a powered buzzer so you dont loose your quad...ViFly Finder 2 will scream for 2 weeks and flashes a strobelight to help you find it ;)
It’s good to have some parts of the craft showing to orintate the pilot level and control, speed and landing distance
I suppose some people might find that helpful.
bro u r the real representation of the saying : growing old is mandatory growing up is optional 😂😂 love your style and videos man , keep it up
Love it when you dont listen to your teacher and just do your own thing😂thats fpv right there,just having fun
You can teach an old dog new tricks. Great video and great teacher.
Didn't know that mAh isn't a thing amongst DJI pilots. Hey, I learned something. Thanks Ken.
It's hidden about four pages deep in the Go app, hence why most DJI pilots go "huh?" when you mention it as most have never got past the takeoff slider lol.
great vid!!!! you gotta keep makin vids like these with your buddie!!! your buddie is awesome!!! you 2 are awesome together!!!....
You two are great! Really really helpful lessons!
So happy to help!
I'm surprised he didn't teach you about turtle mode! Seriously, it's a magical switch that saves you from having to walk large distances to retrieve your kwad 😛
Always good to see somebody learning something! And gee, Sing knows the right name for the craft he flies. : - )
Thanks Ken for extra confidence. Seeing You crashing your quad on every occasion with a smile on your face made me less worry about my own quads :D and take it with the smile :D
Awesome Ken. Always love to watch you and your pals. You have so much fun. Thanks for sharing.
Always enjoy your videos. Keep it up
Ken if I may recommend some starter rates for you Try theses Pitch & Roll 1.05-78-15 or 20 expo Yaw 1.10-75-15 or 20 expo or you could try my rates 1.40-72-15 Yaw 1.10-72-15 for more smoothness around center use 20 expo for that cinematic feel & look I think you'd benefit from theses rates
Thank you Jesse!
Rates are something I really need to learn about.
youre doin fine, the slow stuff really is the hardest, but the safety thing you need to think of is what happens when a fast quad hits a branch or a tripod? they oftengo full tasmanian devil when they clip something, the gyro just goes apey, so factor in how close you go to yourself/people, when there are possible branches or wires to clip, if youre travlin at 60mph and clip a branch you didnt see, the quad could easily go wild for 60feet in any direction.
This was very informative and funny as well. Thanks for the advice
Watching from Philippines
🇵🇭😊👍
I disagree with the advice that rates don't matter. Rates compatible with your body's movements will change everything. Soften that center with super rates, like 0.8 or 0.9 then reduce the RC rate down until you have a max rate of around 500 for slow rates or up to 900ish for fast "juicy" flicks. (less or more is fine with the soft center. It won't spin fast until you get to the end of the throw).
“Treat me like a 14 year old kid”. That will be about right then 🤣😂
I'd also smack you on the back of your head when you don't listen (like that 14 year old)...
when you pointed at the setting like a weatherman hahaha that was great
🤓👍
Nice flying Ken and awesome mentor you have. If you want to fly smoother and have more control over qwad i would suggest downing your rc rates from default 667° to 450-550°, adding rc expo to 0.45 at least, throttle limit to 65% and give it a try
That's way to much expo..
@@WrongWayFPV maybe for someone yeah, but i think it would be helpful for him. i fly with 0.50 expo
The entire video was entertaining :) in addition to being very informative for a beginner like me.
Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks for this video his advice was so good and things you would not know bye other fpv video I have taken so much info from this video he is a good teacher and should do more has he got videos on here ?
Add sum expo to roll 18 and as you get better start taking it a way.👍
A dab was definitely needed!
Great flying Ken!
Expert tips from a semi expert fpv pilot. Also commenting again for the Pixel 4 giveaway!
You did great Ken
Good work. Trying to learn myself. I’m good on the simulator, but still crashing in real life😱
You two are great! I loved the vid.
Loved it Ken...you and Sing made a very helpful video,...nice and easy to follow.👍🍺
Thanks!
Glad you found it helpful.
Hell yes! Getting those packs in! That orbit was looking pretty good I must say, keep at it bro, it get's easier every pack.
Taq fpv flys that frame your transferring to. Its a really cool.
Great flying Ken. Very cool video.
His rates look REALLY high, he's barely touching the sticks. That's impressive!
Ha ha that was exactly what i was like wen i first got my digital setup , nice one guys 👍
Hi ken! “GIMI that FIMI” 🤙🏻
Great video!
Come fly in Woodbridge, VA before you head home Ken!
keep at it Ken, one day you will go out to fly and it will just click
Couldn’t agree more.. there was a CLICK for me too!
I flew LOS first and learned to fly quads LOS and still fly mainly LOS. I had ALOT of problems with I first flew FPV because of camera angle. I had to basically take off pitching forward to even begin to see where I was going because my camera angle was so great. Ive heard that several FPV pilots can't fly LOS and I just don't get it. I find flying LOS much easier lol.
After searching around, I finally found a drone simulator that works with my XBox One controller. It's on Steam and it's called FPV Drone Simulator. I'm not exactly sure how accurate it is. I played around with it and it was actually kinda fun. Again, I'm hoping the way the drone behaves in the game is similar how they behave in real life.
Great!
Velocidrone is another good'n.
Google's not giving me a straight answer. Would I be able to use my Mavic 2 controller with it or at least my XBox One controller?
Thanks Ken needed some help
Great video Ken. Looks like your getting lots of great FPV advise and practice.
I clicked on this video just to make sure Ken wasn't calling himself an expert. LOL! Keep working on it Ken!
Ahhhhh. This brings me back. 🥰
Starting out for me, the pitch osd element was my friend.
Edit: oh yeah, no full osd for dji.
Holy moly Ken. You’re killin me. The walk of shame already. And why don’t u have turtle 🐢 mode set up.
Now to just practice flying an entire pack or 2 without any flippy floppys.... which is surprisingly difficult to fight that urge. But doing so will help you focus on control
"What's 'USED MAH'" while youre using your whole body to point to it is hilarious 😂
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Hi Ken I loved watching this learning video there with your guest great teacher, you Ken even flies well in relation to me I still don't fly in ACRO mode but I will get there 🤔 Making laughs is up to you. Keep up the good work 👍👌😏🤗🔝
I'm still learning, but I can tell you that flying in ACRO is the mode you should learn in.
The other modes are there just for emergency recovery.
Give it a try!👍
@@KenHeron Thank you I will try ... but when you always try a frame😁
Does sing have a channel at all? Would love to watch him more
These are really good tips for beginners!
Wow awesome video Ken it was so lit! I hope you get royalties from Wendy's and Cracker Barrel for product placement in the video.
2:35 sooo true. Not easy to fly FPV race drones.
Sing is a good guy : don’t crash don’t crash it.
Ken : crashes it
Yeah.
He was very patient with me.
Ken Heron he was! I love your enthusiasm tho! “Hehe let me do a loop d loop and a flipa ma thingy!”
great flyin ken!
the other week you hung out with the fpv greats and plus you have a specialized trainer keeping you in check lol
I've watched this video a dozen times, get a kick out of it every time.
When you switched on full acro, was the same exact thing that happened to me. lol
If you are ever up in Maryland/PA area, would love to run over and do some droning with ya! I just got into FPV last month and put up my Day 6 video, starting to get the throttle control down and low flight, splitting trees, etc. Cops came too, made a good clip in the edit, haha.
That's great!
FPV is such great fun.
Happy flying up there in Maryland!
@@KenHeron we are in NJ, but a quick drive away!
I saw Zoe after the protest flying that thing -- it was pretty surreal
Great video! I like this guy 😂 ... my recommendation- just don’t have angle mode at all. Only have acro mode 👍
For a beginner and even intermediate, it's a positive having the ability to switch to Angle or Horizon mode, it's a "get out of jail" mode for those learning to have some stability to recover.
DroningON having once been a beginner, I respectfully disagree
@@MagicFPV and that's fine, we all learn differently, but even as a fairly competent FPVer I always configure these modes as a failsafe for my quads, just incase.
@@MagicFPV I agree with you. Angle and horizon teach you bad habits that are hard to unlearn when going to acro. Best to not even put them on.
i love xing motors. Probably not the same xing or not?
Ken for God's sake get an acro frame to get props n motors out of view & protect ur air unit
Edit... Ken said it lol yeay
Edit again,.....sing agrees, great frame choice
The DJI goggles are even better without props in view ;-)
No doubt!
SCROLLERS UNITE!!! Your like a kindergartener and he is the teacher lol. Still a great video.
woah Hagerstown MD! Im 20 minutes from there
Cool place
Is “Lit” still a thing! 🤣 yes sir and I’ll dab to that! Lol. I wanna see you fly a 10”. I currently have the iFlight XL10” and the frame is a BEAST!
I'm getting the feeling that Ken is 'the guy' that the 107 instructors warn you about.
This was great!
Hold on I’m making excuses ! 😂 too funny!
What he said about camera angle increasing the amount of yaw and roll you need isn't necessarily true.
When you are below 45 degrees, you're mostly using yaw. Above 45 degrees you're mostly using roll. At 45 degrees you're using both equally.
So the higher your camera angle, the more you have to use roll and yaw to turn up until you get to 45. If you're running 60 degree camera angle, you're pretty much just using roll to turn. I've found that actually everything feels a lot more locked in with higher camera angles BUT it's much much much higher risk. So definitely keep it low for a while but also, after a couple months of flying, don't feel like you can't start upping the angle. And after 45 it starts getting easier again. I was one of the telling you to use a lower camera angle and I definitely think you still should. I'm just saying that "it gets harder as you go up" isn't necessarily true. In my opinion, throttle management gets easier the higher you go up until about 60 degrees or so, or wherever you quad has the power to keep the horizon level at.
Controlling the speed you want to be flying and landing and hovering and those sorts of things get harder as you increase your camera angle.
Doing quick turns while keeping a steady altitude becomes very easy at higher angles compared to lower levels.
So there's pros and cons to raising and lowering the angle, but it's best to start low where there's low risk and start gradually moving it up so you can get used to the quirks of each angle slowly over over time.
Also, it's not too early to change rates. Maybe you don't want to be fussing with them all the time but I can tell your rates are too high if they're anywhere near what sing was flying. You CAN fly with higher rates but everything will be smoother, more cinematic and pleasant to watch, locked in, and more precise with lower rates. A lot of people make rates sound like something that's like super personal but a good starting point will get you like at least 70% of the way there, if not more. So in perspective, rates would be like 70% objective and only 30% personal.
The fact of the matter is, if you're not pushing the sticks all the way to the edge, there's a lot resolution you're not getting. You're losing lots of control and precision.
So you want to keep lowering the rate until you're pushing the sticks all the way. A good place to start would be about 400 degrees per second across the board with no expo. With a low camera angle, it might be good to have roll at 330 or so with yaw and pitch at 400 if you wanted, or you can just do 400 everywhere. Expo takes away resolution at the ends of the sticks movements with the gain of being able to do faster flips and stuff. There's no reason to have any expo where you're at. Get as much resolution as possible.
If you go down to 400 it will feel really weird at first but once you get used to it, everything will feel much better and you'll have much more control. And those rates aren't really any slower than the fastest racers in the world. Bardwell and Vanover both recommend lower rates like that; you can watch their video on that if you're skeptical. It makes a huge difference though and you absolutely should be using lower rates.
Finally, while you may benefit from doing exercises like keeping the horizon level and keeping steady throttle or whatever else, and you may realize in your brain that you'd benefit from that, I think it's pretty clear that the joy and fun of flight is kinda ruining your focus and ability to really put in the time. You even told me that you recognize you need more sim practice but just don't feel like it haha. So I think rather than trying to force yourself to do boring exercises, you should be challenging yourself. You're already at a point where you're clearly confident going and doing flips and doing your own thing even when instructed not to , so just be confident and do your own thing and challenge yourself (safely). I think that's what will help you get better at this point without being boring.
I'd recommend making your first gate. You can buy one (pretty expensive) or make one for like a third or half of the cost. If you want to make one, just use 3/4" PVC to make 5ftx5ft squares and put a little base on them so they stand upright. Cover them with pool noodles and cover the pool noodles with white duct tape (Bardwell has a video on these DIY gates). Or buy gates for like twice the price, either way. But if you get yourself 1-3 gates and start challenging yourself to just fly through them, you'll have the fun of being able to do it, the challenge of pushing yourself and not crashing, and you'll naturally have to start getting better at things like throttle management without even needing to do boring exercises. I think you're ready to start crashing into gates and, going at the speed you'd be going with so a low camera angle and being only like 5 feet off the ground, you won't likely damage much crashing into grass like that. This will drastically make you better at flying and give you something objective to measure your success with. So get some gates and keep flying! You're getting better every video!
This comment could be a book, but I appreciate it
@@Fedoteh1991 haha thanks! 2 years later I still agree with pretty much everything I wrote here!
And I’m not making a book but I spend enough time writing this stuff out that I did decide to finally make a video course (2 years later lol). Still counts right?
Great stuff
Does Sing have channel? What a cool friend to have guide you...turtle mode is a thing ken...
Ken, what do you think of these beginner - all in one fpv packages - exp., "ez pilot" ?