Ilan Pappe on the beginning of the “disintegration” of Israel

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @HM-px5ei
    @HM-px5ei Месяц назад +522

    A great man with powerful words. The world needs to listen

    • @oskadavid2964
      @oskadavid2964 Месяц назад

      Why are Christians are supporting the chosen Jewish geno side. Dose Jesus son of God who was a Palestinian love geno side? Jesus died for your sins including geno side and will grant you heaven? Delusional.

    • @oskadavid2964
      @oskadavid2964 Месяц назад

      Why are Christians are supporting the chosen Jewish geno side. Dose Jesus son of God who was a Palestinian love geno side? Jesus died for your sins including geno side and will grant you heaven? Delusional.

    • @peterland2824
      @peterland2824 Месяц назад +21

      A great man indeed.

    • @EyeGodZA
      @EyeGodZA Месяц назад +22

      A treasure. Proof that the world doesn’t have a Jewish problem, but an Israeli one.

    • @2589003
      @2589003 Месяц назад +2

      Just bcoz he say the end of Zi0nismm😂

  • @georgewood100
    @georgewood100 Месяц назад +307

    A very great smart man with integrity. We need more like him, but they are in short supply.

    • @2589003
      @2589003 Месяц назад +2

      H0w does he help Yu Palezztinians more Free?

    • @FreedomToPeople
      @FreedomToPeople 2 дня назад

      Allah woo-Akbar.
      So much hatred & antisemitism coming out of the woodwork - using the Palestinian cause to hide their Jew-hatred fervour.

  • @MahsaSara
    @MahsaSara Месяц назад +519

    "The struggle for Palestinian rights is not just a political issue; it is a matter of human rights. ✌⚖"Ilan Pappe

    • @CuttySX455
      @CuttySX455 Месяц назад +1

      Tell that to the terrorists

    • @AnthonyUK100
      @AnthonyUK100 Месяц назад

      JUST A NAZI REMARK.

    • @mvs9122
      @mvs9122 Месяц назад

      @@MahsaSara to me it's not about human rights so much as its basic logic. You can't eliminate Palestinians and you don't want bunch of ghettos next to you. Isreal is being both irrational and emotional

    • @magentamagenta1274
      @magentamagenta1274 Месяц назад

      @MahsaSara The struggle for Israelis peace and security rights are being oppressed and are continually undermined by delusional people.

    • @karinwallace3031
      @karinwallace3031 Месяц назад

      Having trump as president will ensure Israel is in a war for ever because if it ends Bibi goes to jail !

  • @ZOFIELHERRERA-wy3yo
    @ZOFIELHERRERA-wy3yo Месяц назад +818

    No apartheid system can last forever.

    • @stss2442
      @stss2442 Месяц назад +30

      2 million palestinians equal israeli citizens.
      Palestinian high court judges and political parties. 50% of graduating doctors in israeli universities are palestinians.
      We have no apartheid in Israel, ignorant fool.

    • @PokMo2125
      @PokMo2125 Месяц назад

      ​@@stss2442wow, what a bright chosen thief

    • @modestacattaruzza7400
      @modestacattaruzza7400 Месяц назад

      ​@@stss2442not only ignorant bot envious, jealous and hateful.

    • @nazeemkadir1257
      @nazeemkadir1257 Месяц назад

      No apartheid system can last forever ​@@stss2442

    • @newspaperface
      @newspaperface Месяц назад +105

      ​@@stss2442your figures are questionable at best

  • @kona744
    @kona744 Месяц назад +145

    An amazing testomonial from Ilan Pappe. Thank you.

  • @L1l1bethQu33n-x1p
    @L1l1bethQu33n-x1p Месяц назад +191

    Thank you Pappe ! Always so comforting to hear your opinion. Today it sounds like ‘there’s still hope!

    • @oskadavid2964
      @oskadavid2964 Месяц назад

      Why are Christians are supporting the chosen Jewish geno side. Dose Jesus son of God who was a Palestinian love geno side? Jesus died for your sins including geno side and will grant you heaven? Delusional.

    • @edyr
      @edyr Месяц назад

      damn, I hope they didn't go after the supermodels like that
      They was all mine 💯🔥👍
      All mine, hot loyal nice happier world everyday ✈️💫

    • @RA-oi4ml
      @RA-oi4ml Месяц назад

      ​@@edyru are sick

    • @RA-oi4ml
      @RA-oi4ml Месяц назад +3

      ​@@edyrany logic on your reply

    • @BirdOf1951
      @BirdOf1951 Месяц назад

      Hope for what?

  • @the-matrix-of-propaganda
    @the-matrix-of-propaganda Месяц назад +338

    So nice to hear sanity. Free Palestine.

    • @mvs9122
      @mvs9122 Месяц назад +3

      I know what you mean, but human decision making is not rational. I mean isreal could have just bought out the Palestinians at less cost. Also isreal should not want bunch of ghettos next to it. Just after oct 7, isreal should have gone to UN and demand peace it would have got the best deal

    • @mcs914
      @mcs914 Месяц назад

      ​@@mvs9122na

    • @chriszzw30
      @chriszzw30 Месяц назад

      Didn't the Jews already buy out Israel? The place the Jordanian/Egyptian guys in "Palestine" wants to destroy?

    • @tonybuono-x3c
      @tonybuono-x3c Месяц назад

      Free Palestine and go home, if you still have shame in your mind.

    • @tonybuono-x3c
      @tonybuono-x3c Месяц назад

      ​@mvs9122 Palestinians has never sold their Land, cause they know Land it's. A blessed Gift from the Lord, was the Land taken from the., Arabs are the onesbhas sold Palestinian Land, cause it's not their Land. They loved the dessert, that's whyvEgipthians call them,Serpents of the desserts.

  • @primaryesthethicinstincts4832
    @primaryesthethicinstincts4832 Месяц назад +188

    We’ve just reported that more than 50 children were killed by Israeli strikes on two residential buildings in northern Gaza.
    The Government Media Office added that the two multistorey buildings were sheltering at least 170 people when they were targeted.
    It said 84 people were killed in what it described as “massacres” as no civil defence crews, medical services or other relief services are available in the area amid an Israeli siege and continuing bombardment.
    It did not specify the location of the buildings but said they belonged to the Shalayel and al-Ghandour families.
    The government called on the international community to uphold its obligation to protect civilians and said it held Israel and its allies - the US, France, the UK and Germany - responsible for the ongoing “genocide” in Gaza.

    • @jfern6673
      @jfern6673 Месяц назад +2

      🤣😂

    • @RA-oi4ml
      @RA-oi4ml Месяц назад +33

      ​@@jfern6673why u laughing at people dying

    • @mbn9672
      @mbn9672 Месяц назад

      @@RA-oi4ml he's a zionist jew, there's nothing more to be said.

    • @halloola3636
      @halloola3636 Месяц назад

      @@stevemorley This didn´t start on Oct, 7th of 23...
      Israel has been killing people and stealing land at least since 1948.
      You are evil, projecting Zionist fascist!

    • @robmckenzie2538
      @robmckenzie2538 Месяц назад +6

      @@RA-oi4ml Because some posters are ghouls.

  • @eamar0509
    @eamar0509 Месяц назад +141

    كل الاحترام والتقدير والحب يا ايلان
    יישר כח, איש חכם אמיץ ונקי דעת.
    From Jerusalem AlQuds ☝️💚🇵🇸

    • @wyesjcbnwr8606
      @wyesjcbnwr8606 Месяц назад +23

      אכן - Indeed

    • @sh25098
      @sh25098 Месяц назад

      @@wyesjcbnwr8606 בדיוק ההיפך. אילן פפה ידוע בתור שקרן והיסטוריון לא אמין. 🇮🇱🇮🇱👍

  • @zafarkhan5609
    @zafarkhan5609 Месяц назад +68

    Reassuring and inspiring analysis by prof pappe on the possibilities for the troubled and unhappy land between the 'river and the sea'.

  • @zharkoo
    @zharkoo Месяц назад +158

    Ilan Pappe is just amazing, a rare combination of very knowledgable intellectual, gifted storyteller and unbelivably good and moral human being.

    • @zehavi111
      @zehavi111 Месяц назад +4

      Problem is that he relies on false facts - for example he said 500k israelis left israel but only few dozens of thousands actually left
      Source - middle east monitor (a pro Palestinian source)

    • @zharkoo
      @zharkoo Месяц назад +9

      @@zehavi111 I don't see any problem there, he doesn't need to have everything 100% accurate to see the big picture, and he definitely knows the situation from the inside out, I trust him in his judgement and predictions about how processes unfold in Palestine

    • @JensPeterLiljegren
      @JensPeterLiljegren Месяц назад +5

      According to the Israeli magazine 'Zman' 470.000 had left for good back in November 2023.

    • @ranjitkundu7919
      @ranjitkundu7919 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@zehavi111Over a million of the best have left in the last 12 months. Its accelerating.. with this12 month insane war.. Going BUST .. FINANCIALLY, ECONOMICALLY.. and will spread to everything. Business, agriculture, livelihoods, normal life.. existence. ❗

    • @ranjitkundu7919
      @ranjitkundu7919 Месяц назад +1

      @@zehavi111 Mistaken. you are. Passionate perhaps.. but biased

  • @MJB0110
    @MJB0110 Месяц назад +131

    Great respect to Ilan Pape. He proves 2 points. 1) Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews.
    2) Some of the most eloquent, insightful and articulate supporters of the Palestinian cause are Jewish.

    • @peterland2824
      @peterland2824 Месяц назад +6

      Well said.

    • @Mellisa026
      @Mellisa026 Месяц назад +5

      And the very best of them, to their credit, those with money and a passport have already left the country.

    • @magentamagenta1274
      @magentamagenta1274 Месяц назад +6

      @MJB0110 Cherry picking Jews that are anti Zionist doesn’t alter anything.
      One country for the Jews, 57 for the Moslems overall there’s no argument.

    • @birutybeiruty4469
      @birutybeiruty4469 Месяц назад +1

      The exception does not make rule.

    • @ranjitkundu7919
      @ranjitkundu7919 Месяц назад

      @@MJB0110 Before ALL ELSE, AT THE END OF THE DAY - we are Human beings.. JUST HUMAN BEINGS..spirit or consciousness.. in a Physical Container...
      -----
      Beliefs - Religious, philosophical, spiritual, scientific etc are JUST THAT .. an INVASION , an IMPOSITION on a virgin mind - FREE OF BIAS. esp Religious Bias . or often just religious madness, intolerance, insanity etc.. that makes NO SENSE .. to an unformed consciousness..
      When/ ONCE ..We REMEMBER THAT - that we must CO EXIST.. Regardless of differing BELIEFS..
      Many of which are not self exclusive.. Many of which are intolerant.. of other beliefs.. Some are tolerant.. Realizing that we are like the wind.. here today, gone tomorrow.. Evanescent..ephemeral, transient.. disappearing.. Into without form or substance..

  • @mensurmohammednugus6268
    @mensurmohammednugus6268 Месяц назад +67

    كلام واضح لا احد يستطيع ان ينزع حق غيره إسرائيل عنها مشاكل لا تستطيع حله التحية لهذا الرجل

  • @amareto5772
    @amareto5772 Месяц назад +128

    In the animal kingdom, when a snake gets injured and is about to die, ants gather around and start eating it. The snake doesn't like what's happening to it and tries to kill the ants, but it isn’t powerful anymore. It kills many of them, but the ants won’t stop eating until he dies.
    Ladies and gentlemen, the snake is about to die.

    • @modestacattaruzza7400
      @modestacattaruzza7400 Месяц назад

      If you think Israel is the snake, I have news for you. They aren't, but strong 💪 resilient, hope, faith , believe themselves and their people with unmatched survival skills you cannot imagine. That's whom Israel truly is.

    • @hellohumans175
      @hellohumans175 Месяц назад +9

      wow

    • @erichernandez1873
      @erichernandez1873 Месяц назад +6

      🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

    • @DEonaraR
      @DEonaraR Месяц назад +3

      But we are not there yet, sadly.

    • @deedee2455
      @deedee2455 Месяц назад +2

      good analogy

  • @UmiYogi0205
    @UmiYogi0205 Месяц назад +267

    Palestine will definitely be the beacon of freedom and peace. ❤❤❤

    • @stevecarr6175
      @stevecarr6175 Месяц назад +13

      😂

    • @elpupusero
      @elpupusero Месяц назад

      ​@@stevecarr6175are you supporting the nazis?

    • @RA-oi4ml
      @RA-oi4ml Месяц назад +11

      ​@@stevecarr6175why are you laughing 😡😡😡

    • @stevecarr6175
      @stevecarr6175 Месяц назад

      @@RA-oi4ml I'm sure you can work it out. Polls of Palestinians show that around 70% are supportive of Hamas and their desire to wipe Israel off the face of the earth in a genocidal frenzy such as what happened on Oct 7. So that any idea that they will all of a sudden become a beacon of freedom and peace is an absolute joke! Given their education system that focuses on instilling hated of Jews in the minds of youngsters is surely (as you will no doubt agree) is a recipe for ongoing disaster for their society.

    • @Hastheworldgonecompletelymad
      @Hastheworldgonecompletelymad Месяц назад +8

      @@RA-oi4ml…because that comment is hilarious! 😂😂😂

  • @emarkjacobs
    @emarkjacobs Месяц назад +41

    it has begun!

  • @ZenaAlireza
    @ZenaAlireza Месяц назад +65

    I AM SOOOO GLAD

    • @Jon962-h4i
      @Jon962-h4i Месяц назад +2

      About what? His opinion? 😂

  • @barbaralyons3978
    @barbaralyons3978 Месяц назад +17

    I am an old Jew and a member of JVP. Pappe is our hero. Zionism is over

    • @HaoyuWang-js4ng
      @HaoyuWang-js4ng 26 дней назад

      😂 🤡 Israeli psychop?

    • @harmony9591
      @harmony9591 26 дней назад

      I am an old man who fears what is happening within him -- I struggle not to, but fear I am becoming a hater of Jews. This makes me sad and confused.

    • @JawboneDonky
      @JawboneDonky 6 дней назад

      At best, Ilan Pappe must be one of the world's sloppiest historians; at worst, one of the most dishonest.
      To give Pappé credit, he is at least honest that his works aren’t objective truth but rather his narrative - shown through his one-sided portrayal of history and twisting of facts to fit his ideology. In a November 29th 1999 interview with French newspaper Le Soir, Pappé said:
      “Indeed the struggle is about ideology, not about facts, Who knows what facts are? We try to convince as many people as we can that our interpretation of the facts is the correct one, and we do it because of ideological reasons, not because we are truth-seekers”.
      So who agrees with Pappé? Those who hold the same ideology as him. Those who believe that Israel is an evil entity, guilty of the most heinous crimes and has waged war on an innocent people for practically no reason other than to be evil.
      Those who are more objective, care about all historical facts and believe that truth is something that should be pursued, as opposed to making it fit your pre-determined ideology, should read the criticisms on Pappé to understand why he cannot be taken seriously as a credible historian on the issue. Also read, "Industry of Lies" by Ben Dror Yemini

  • @halakinani-muley8543
    @halakinani-muley8543 Месяц назад +6

    Thank you for all your speaches and books and interviews now and all over the past years , to reveal the historical truth. ❤

  • @abc-mf8rr
    @abc-mf8rr Месяц назад +73

    ❤❤❤Ilan Pape...the Man

    • @victormeidan1062
      @victormeidan1062 Месяц назад

      An established, Israeli Loonatik who lives in his own Fictional Reality.

  • @eamar0509
    @eamar0509 Месяц назад +32

    Dear @Middle East Eye
    Please add the link for the whole interview, for those who missed it.

    • @PhoenixSerenity
      @PhoenixSerenity Месяц назад +5

      They always post their full interviews on their RUclips - you have to go to the full list of videos uploaded to see them.

    • @YogaladyToronto
      @YogaladyToronto Месяц назад +5

      The description says it is on The Big Picture (series). I think they are referring to the Al Jazeera app and website and maybe RUclips.

    • @eamar0509
      @eamar0509 Месяц назад +6

      @PhoenixSerenity I watched it already, it's for those who didn't. ☝️💚🇵🇸🔻

    • @modestacattaruzza7400
      @modestacattaruzza7400 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@eamar0509I and those who didn't don't care. Israel will live forever and prosper.

    • @TheDweeb002
      @TheDweeb002 Месяц назад +1

      @@modestacattaruzza7400 👈🏾 kicked out of 109 countries and thinks 110 is the charm 😂

  • @tonyyounan9013
    @tonyyounan9013 Месяц назад +2

    Ilan Pappe is a great man. Thank you for your wisdom

  • @slrsms
    @slrsms Месяц назад +26

    Philosophical angle by Mr. Pappe!

  • @KateNorman-d6s
    @KateNorman-d6s Месяц назад +201

    I'm favoured only God knows how much I praise Him, $230k every 4weeks! I now have a big mansion and can now afford anything and also support God’s work and the church.

    • @KateNorman-d6s
      @KateNorman-d6s Месяц назад +1

      You work for 40yrs to have $1m in your retirement, Meanwhile some people are putting just $10k in a meme coin for just few months sometimes lesser and now they are multi millionaires. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life💯

    • @KanLedbetter
      @KanLedbetter Месяц назад

      Hello!! how do you make such monthly, I’m a born Christian and sometimes I feel so down of myself 😭 because of low finance but I still believe God

    • @KateNorman-d6s
      @KateNorman-d6s Месяц назад

      It's Ms. Evelyn Vera doing, she's changed my life.

    • @hdtvqxzjrldhsin
      @hdtvqxzjrldhsin Месяц назад

      Same here
      Waking up every 13th of each month to $210k it's a blessing to I and my family....I can now retire knowing that I have a steady income ❤
      Big gratitude to Evelyn Vera ..

    • @DawnJastremski
      @DawnJastremski Месяц назад

      I do know Ms.Evelyn Vera, I also have even become successful....

  • @sonyaweir1135
    @sonyaweir1135 Месяц назад +25

    The most awesome😊 👍. Mankind is WAKING UP!

  • @dokhiemdokh
    @dokhiemdokh Месяц назад

    Thanks!

  • @mustafabhadsorawala9608
    @mustafabhadsorawala9608 Месяц назад +16

    So eloquent

  • @Ayman-k8n
    @Ayman-k8n Месяц назад +1

    Well done, Ilan ❤❤❤

  • @thomasjosullivan9179
    @thomasjosullivan9179 Месяц назад +30

    Very wise word for Mr Pappe

    • @modestacattaruzza7400
      @modestacattaruzza7400 Месяц назад +1

      Wise?? Where!!

    • @DaMuss-e2w
      @DaMuss-e2w Месяц назад +1

      the foolish are incapable of seeing wisdom. Mr Pappe is very wise, and RIP Hind poor child you will never be forgotten.

    • @RA-oi4ml
      @RA-oi4ml Месяц назад

      ​@@modestacattaruzza7400😂😂😂😂😂

    • @victormeidan1062
      @victormeidan1062 Месяц назад

      ​@@DaMuss-e2w
      Pappe is an unhinged lunatik who gave up writing history decades ago. Now, he specializes in Fiction.

    • @DaMuss-e2w
      @DaMuss-e2w Месяц назад

      Hashpara out in force but achieving nothing.

  • @trueman2662
    @trueman2662 Месяц назад +2

    BRILLIANT ANALYSIS, BRAVE STAND, FREE PALESTINE

  • @tenhagsbarber4048
    @tenhagsbarber4048 Месяц назад +62

    Israel is the last colonial entity left and you only have to look at its backers to know they are the same as those who backed Rhodesia, south Africa previously now making the same mischief in others lands.

    • @eamar0509
      @eamar0509 Месяц назад +11

      @@tenhagsbarber4048
      DON'T FORGET WESTERN SAHARA OCCUPIED BY MOROCCO!!!

    • @HenkMorgenstond
      @HenkMorgenstond Месяц назад

      They love apartheid

    • @meatrealwishes
      @meatrealwishes Месяц назад

      Israel is nothing compared to Russian Federation and now they have invented something called ultraviolent colonialism in Africa.

    • @Didi-m9b
      @Didi-m9b Месяц назад

      there are still many many colonial entities around the world, some in disguise of economics or religion, do not fool yourself.

    • @4x4r974
      @4x4r974 Месяц назад +2

      what about north cyprus being occupied by muslim settlers brought from mainland turkey?

  • @danzel1157
    @danzel1157 Месяц назад +10

    The main question is whether the US will finally be a good actor in this huge transition, or will it just go on encouraging Israel to do whatever it wants as it disintegrates?

    • @nicekiwi-z9d
      @nicekiwi-z9d Месяц назад +6

      It’s not looking good so far…

    • @HenkMorgenstond
      @HenkMorgenstond Месяц назад +2

      ​@@nicekiwi-z9dHelaas heb je gelijk

    • @nicekiwi-z9d
      @nicekiwi-z9d Месяц назад

      @@HenkMorgenstond can you translate?

    • @HenkMorgenstond
      @HenkMorgenstond Месяц назад +1

      @nicekiwi-z9d it is sad that it will take such a long time.

    • @DaMuss-e2w
      @DaMuss-e2w Месяц назад +6

      The US has never been a Good actor this would be the first time.

  • @sprinkz6187
    @sprinkz6187 Месяц назад +4

    Ilan Pappé is an Israeli historian, political scientist, and former politician. He is a professor with the College of Social Sciences and International Studies at the University of Exeter in the United Kingdom, director of the university's European Centre for Palestine Studies, and co-director of the Exeter Centre

  • @ich1049
    @ich1049 Месяц назад +2

    Huge respect dear Ilan

  • @YogaladyToronto
    @YogaladyToronto Месяц назад +24

    “disintegrating can take 30, 40 years” This is a good news, bad news scenario. The good news is the process has begun. The bad news is that it can take decades. Given how dug in Israel is against “the Arabs” (the Palestinians), and the deep seated hatred of the Palestinians, and the illegal land grab drive, and the (irrational) unconditional support Israel enjoys from the super powers, it may well be a very long time before Palestine becomes state. I always appreciate hearing what Ilan Pappe has to say. Much respect!

    • @Kepitano
      @Kepitano Месяц назад +12

      The disintegration begun not today but in early 2000's. Israel lost a war for the first time ever in 2006. I reckon it will be completely devoid of political and military power by 2030.

    • @zehravesile
      @zehravesile Месяц назад +2

      ​@@Kepitanoamen n inshallah..
      .

    • @HenkMorgenstond
      @HenkMorgenstond Месяц назад

      Very sad😢

    • @DaMuss-e2w
      @DaMuss-e2w Месяц назад

      The IStealis only have the support of one Superpower and More and More of the world is mobilizing against it.

    • @UmarWazir
      @UmarWazir Месяц назад +3

      These are fast times. Timelines have shrunk. Logarithmic decay is likely - little by little, then all at once.

  • @Cauldron6
    @Cauldron6 Месяц назад +4

    A man of intelligence and integrity. Thank you for sharing your perspective, Mr Pappe

  • @Yaykbk
    @Yaykbk Месяц назад +9

    Very well said by IIlan Pappe

  • @anchorpoint5871
    @anchorpoint5871 Месяц назад +3

    Mister Ilan Pappe...one of the best historian on israel palestine conflict today.

  • @sen313
    @sen313 Месяц назад +11

    ​​can you get the word out that on the ballets Jill Stein name is not on you have to write it- in

  • @WuhanMan2013
    @WuhanMan2013 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Mr Pappe

  • @kipwonder2233
    @kipwonder2233 Месяц назад +20

    God is great 👏👏👏!!!

  • @Brain-b5j
    @Brain-b5j Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Pappe

  • @hp323
    @hp323 Месяц назад +12

    👏👏👏👏☮️🌎

  • @gmarkphillips
    @gmarkphillips Месяц назад

    God bless you Ilan.💙

  • @Istebrak
    @Istebrak Месяц назад +3

    Tick tock Israel ⌚️

  • @7hilladelphia
    @7hilladelphia Месяц назад

    Beautifully spoken words about such a possibility 🎉

  • @Jack_huntakilla
    @Jack_huntakilla Месяц назад +20

    Ilan x Norman x Maté ✊🏾🖤

    • @sunrays4457
      @sunrays4457 Месяц назад +4

      Gideon, Avi shlaim &: manymore

  • @1deenforme
    @1deenforme Месяц назад +8

    The professor provides such clear and concise explanations, thank you, for your words of hope.

    • @HenkMorgenstond
      @HenkMorgenstond Месяц назад

      We need follow-up actions

    • @victormeidan1062
      @victormeidan1062 Месяц назад

      Pappe lives in his own Fictional Pappe-World. Nothing to do with Reality

  • @mohanzmani1770
    @mohanzmani1770 Месяц назад +2

    I very much agree with Mr Ilan Pappe.I have written a booklet entitled" Should Christians support the present state of Israel?"
    In this booklet I have demolished 12 myths about Israel, mainly from the Bible( I came to know later that Mr Pappe has written about 10 myths about Israel.
    I have mentioned 10 Driving forces to the present Israel- Palestine conflict,. The starting point was Britain before inguinal a superpower in 1815, followed by the advent of the Christian Zionists, such as John Nelson Darby, in 1831, etc
    I have emphasized that the formation of Israel in 1948 was no fulfilment of prophecy but a clever neo- colonial ploy of Britain and the West ( as is too evident in the present Gaza genocide.
    I have also produced a very brief video on " Origins of the Israel-Palestine conflict -- with Biblical perspectives."
    I am sharing the link to the video below.
    Dr MohanZ.Mani. India. 7.40 p.m.on 6th November 2024, Indian Standard Time.ruclips.net/video/LmFCx9ZKpDk/видео.htmlsi=yhjXbnCe2q_fv4yU

  • @jenspetersimonsen4235
    @jenspetersimonsen4235 Месяц назад +18

    If you need a beacon of hope, look towards South Africa.

    • @kylezo
      @kylezo Месяц назад

      South Africa refuses to stop selling coal to Israel. South Africa is the number 1 provider of coal power to Israel in the entire world. They could end this overnight if they stopped, but they don't.

    • @kylezo
      @kylezo Месяц назад

      South Africa is the number 1 provider of coal to Israel.

    • @victormeidan1062
      @victormeidan1062 Месяц назад

      South Africa has now become a failed, 3rd World, cesspit shyythole country.
      Highest violent crime rates globally.
      Electricity stoppages.
      Corruption on steroids.
      Rising emigration

  • @ofekmeir2305
    @ofekmeir2305 Месяц назад +2

    It is my honor to have met him in person last year. I wish Prof. Pappe all the best.

  • @magalisigrun
    @magalisigrun Месяц назад +7

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @ladronsiman1471
    @ladronsiman1471 Месяц назад

    I love his voice .A man with a great sense of Justice

  • @RikiSchwitzerlandman
    @RikiSchwitzerlandman Месяц назад +16

    Already voted for Jill Stein 🤩🤩🤩🤩 👏👏👏

  • @tko2218
    @tko2218 Месяц назад

    I’ve never seen/heard about this gentleman before “IIan Pappe” but I have now..❤️🤝🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
    He’s absolut spot on he’s talking pure facts and at this moment of time only the few/brave that speak out against genocide..He’s heart is at the right place you don’t get many of them left, Protect this brother..imo

  • @Blasphemism
    @Blasphemism Месяц назад +9

    Imagine the reinstatement of the Right of Return...

  • @MIKEMIKE-te2dt
    @MIKEMIKE-te2dt Месяц назад +1

    Ilan Pappe is a very intelligent and courageous man.

  • @ravenheer
    @ravenheer Месяц назад +5

    As a muslim i love this man and wish him good health and succes❤

  • @rul4522
    @rul4522 Месяц назад

    Only integrety can save the world. Thank you Ilan.

  • @souaaz
    @souaaz Месяц назад +3

    I like his voice

  • @Savegazasince1943
    @Savegazasince1943 Месяц назад

    I rarely heard something like this. Thanks very much

  • @zilola6693
    @zilola6693 Месяц назад +38

    From the river to the sea Palestine will be free

    • @AnthonyUK100
      @AnthonyUK100 Месяц назад

      PALESTINE IS FREE! It's CALLED ISRAEL.

    • @JawboneDonky
      @JawboneDonky 6 дней назад

      "There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not." -- Arab Princeton Professor, Philip Hitti, before the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry in Jerusalem in 1946.
      "Such a creature as Palestine does not exist at all." (Ahmad Shukan , Saudi Ambassador to the UN, 1956)
      In 1937, Secretary of the Arab Higher Committee to the British Peel Commission, Awni Abd al-Hadi stated: “There is no such country as Palestine. ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented.”
      "We [Palestinians] were never an independent state in history, we were part of an Arab state and an Islamic state.” -- Palestinian Hamas Foreign Minister Mahmoud Zahhar (quoted in The Economist, February 2, 2008)
      "Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria." Syrian President Hafez al-Assad [Addressing the Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization Yasser Arafat during a meeting with leaders of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in 1976]
      Zahir Muhsein was a Palestinian leader of the pro-Syria As-Sa'iqa Ba'athist faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization between 1971 and 1979.
      In an interview with Trouw Magazine, 31. March 1977 he stated....."The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel and for Arab unity.

  • @Ramlabam1
    @Ramlabam1 Месяц назад

    The realization of your views would be a dream come true for me. I hope that in my lifetime I would be able to finally live in a peaceful and prosperous middle east. All due respect Ilan Pappe.

  • @marianseren9137
    @marianseren9137 Месяц назад +6

    💔💔💔💔🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️

  • @adamesd3699
    @adamesd3699 Месяц назад +4

    I have such admiration for Ilan Pappe.

  • @fabientuizat1129
    @fabientuizat1129 Месяц назад

    Merci !!

  • @sh25098
    @sh25098 Месяц назад +11

    Comparing israel to lybia or syria should indicate to everyone what exactly is ilan pappes intellectual level of truth🤦‍♀️

    • @VeronicaGorositoMusic
      @VeronicaGorositoMusic Месяц назад

      Yes, Lybia and Syria never committed genocide, he's so biased on this....

    • @alifm40DS
      @alifm40DS Месяц назад

      Ikr
      I could Agree Libya becomes failed state ever since Oct 2011, thanks to US and NATO ofc.
      But, i disagree once he said Syria.
      He's not only mentioning Syria once. But, twice.
      I followed what happened in Syria since like 2015. The country are holding on and not even becoming failed state or even disintegrating.

    • @t44s
      @t44s 25 дней назад

      @@VeronicaGorositoMusic are you sober? 500,000 Syrians died in the Syrian civil war. In fact Arabs kill one another at a much higher rate than Israel ever has, but somehow most of the world just loves to hate Israel. They excuse Arab dictators and Putin but they really Israel. It's irrational.

  • @williamrappaport9203
    @williamrappaport9203 Месяц назад +2

    Illan Pappe is predicting what he hopes will happen, but that makes it more of a wish than an actual prediction.

  • @lahoreaskari2651
    @lahoreaskari2651 Месяц назад +3

    Beautiful sentiments by Ilan Pappe.

  • @salibakouri4995
    @salibakouri4995 Месяц назад

    You are a great intellectual and top thinker 🌹🌹🌹

  • @bertrandjuan3101
    @bertrandjuan3101 Месяц назад +3

    Well said Sir ❤

  • @bambamkitring6666
    @bambamkitring6666 Месяц назад +9

    mark my word : "this war will end only when Palestine is free From Israel"s occupation".

    • @BigFred-s3b
      @BigFred-s3b Месяц назад +1

      This war will only end when Islam is eradicated.

  • @annap1171
    @annap1171 Месяц назад +1

    My hopes and prayers

  • @ofern321
    @ofern321 Месяц назад +3

    🙏From an Israeli citizen, #BDS to stop #GazaGenocide and #EndIsraeliApartheid ‼️#StopArmingIsrael and #BanIsrael ‼️

  • @mixoubn34
    @mixoubn34 Месяц назад

    We will not cry for it !

  • @coleengoodell7523
    @coleengoodell7523 Месяц назад +3

    Thank you for this brilliant analysis. I agree with your vision of the future in this region and I believe it can be done and done better than decolonization processes in the past. I think we are able to do it better. Learning from history as to what does and does not work. A new vision of a just and fair state, equal, peaceful and living sider by side in safety and security as the people in this region have done in the past. There is a great opportunity here, we must take it. So to your vision and hopes, I too say Amen. I agree. God's will be done.

  • @Gihan7287
    @Gihan7287 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Ilan Papé for giving us hope. Especially the Palestinian people have proved to be such great people, having great faith in God, faithful to their land and olive trees. They deserve to have their own state since Israelis were not capable of building a healthy real democratic state. They disrespected the holy land, destroyed ancient churches and mosques, applied an apartheid fascist harsh regime on the indigenous innocent Palestinians. Practiced prostitution, human organ trafficking on the highest level, committed horrors and now genocide. Frankly they must leave.

  • @mariela7521
    @mariela7521 Месяц назад +7

    👌💯

  • @hamnalodhi8946
    @hamnalodhi8946 Месяц назад +1

    May god bless you sir ....

  • @KateBates22zabu
    @KateBates22zabu Месяц назад +6

    Whatever their problems It's not the Arab world doing Jena side.

  • @ImadAli1
    @ImadAli1 Месяц назад +1

    What a honorable human and a Jew!

  • @danlivni2097
    @danlivni2097 Месяц назад +3

    Ilan Pappe supports there being 57 Muslim countries, but opposes 1 Jewish country.

  • @damnedseagull6194
    @damnedseagull6194 Месяц назад

    Words of wisdom by a respectable human on this planet earth.

  • @TheBOOKofJOSEPH
    @TheBOOKofJOSEPH Месяц назад +5

    The guy is an absolute idiot. He is actually naming the Palestinians as a society ready to take on the role of a solution; the Palestinians are not even at the level of Lebanon and Syria; they are a people that took all opportunities given to them and converted them into self destruction. It is a shame to see people with zero analytical capabilities being given a stage . If Israeli society disintegrates this would be due to an entirely different scenario, but Ilan wouldn’t even be able to begin to explain it.

  • @peterlaws1653
    @peterlaws1653 Месяц назад

    thank you

  • @knowledgeanddefense1054
    @knowledgeanddefense1054 Месяц назад +3

    Israel should go a similar route of Kurdish communalism / democratic confederalism (a form of libertarian socialism)
    Direct democracy would go a long way to stop its rise of fascism and like in Rojava, problems of prejudice could be resolved with justice committees and rehab rather than... well, you know

    • @kylezo
      @kylezo Месяц назад

      They are completely fascist, they will never be free like Rojava

  • @christianmpassi3450
    @christianmpassi3450 Месяц назад

    Long live this sensitive and intelligent human being. Let's keep hope alive.

  • @shaphyshaphy
    @shaphyshaphy Месяц назад +4

    🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🍉✊️

    • @JawboneDonky
      @JawboneDonky 6 дней назад

      "There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not." -- Arab Princeton Professor, Philip Hitti, before the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry in Jerusalem in 1946.
      "Such a creature as Palestine does not exist at all." (Ahmad Shukan , Saudi Ambassador to the UN, 1956)
      In 1937, Secretary of the Arab Higher Committee to the British Peel Commission, Awni Abd al-Hadi stated: “There is no such country as Palestine. ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented.”
      "We [Palestinians] were never an independent state in history, we were part of an Arab state and an Islamic state.” -- Palestinian Hamas Foreign Minister Mahmoud Zahhar (quoted in The Economist, February 2, 2008)
      "Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria." Syrian President Hafez al-Assad [Addressing the Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization Yasser Arafat during a meeting with leaders of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in 1976]
      Zahir Muhsein was a Palestinian leader of the pro-Syria As-Sa'iqa Ba'athist faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization between 1971 and 1979.
      In an interview with Trouw Magazine, 31. March 1977 he stated....."The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel and for Arab unity.

  • @ThaiGardenOasis
    @ThaiGardenOasis Месяц назад +1

    Wise words

  • @72Tears
    @72Tears Месяц назад +1

    Salaam sometimes it is asked why is the 12th imam is inoccultation .This week and Last few weeks with all the assassinations has shown that the Shias are unable to keep him safe, the entire leadership of an organisation has been wiped out one by one and if Iranian media reports are to be believed for precaution their leadership has moved locations. This does not befit the imam and nor was it necessary as the 11 previous imams had paid the blood price to the maximum . Hence the matter ended with the 12th imam’s occultation as prophesied by the prophet and narrated by the imams. Occultation is not the same as hiding…the imam is not changing beds every night or in fear of the enemy or nervous or panicked . He is like imam Ali (as) was in Siffen when his companion said this is not a time to pray in the middle of the battlefield with death everywhere (go to safety )he replied “ the purpose of our fight is salat “ and well documented with heads falling around all over the place he recited his salah. Thus Showing the companion the difference between an imam and non light creations. This is an opinion of mine but it is strengthened by the fact he sent his son Mohammed Hanifya into battle . Thre was a shower of hundreds of arrows (today it is bullets and bombs) from the enemy and M. Hanifiyah stopped his horse and froze (to let the arrows pass). imam Ali (as) watched on in anger and galloped the Zul Jinnah first to his unaware son and hit him firmly between the shoulder blades with the back of the sword handle . As M. Hanifyah turned he saw his father who said “This is from your mothers side (meaning her genes ) and he himself went into the thick of battle obliterating the enemy returning to his son he said ‘That’s how it’s done now go fight ! ‘…Showing the difference between the bloodline of Fatima and his other sons . Later, he would show the genes of Ummal Baneen in action in the form of Abbas who also obliterated the enemy to the warm open arm welcome of his proud father thus showing the difference between the mother of Abbas and the mother of M.Hanifyah. It is worthy to note here that imam Ali (as) did not hide the merits of one over the other and there are many points to be learned from this in itself. One of which is that if you want respect you have to earn it; Even if you are the son of Ali. Often Imam Ali would say death is his strongest shield. So the imams despite being priceless and irreplaceable lept into danger and death for the sake of AllahSWT. Our imam The 12th Imam is similarly in command and control and We are never alone, he is not in hiding he is in occultation he leads and guides the mutaqeen . He attends Hajj every year, he helps his Shias when he wants to and keeps an eye on them. there are absolutely no restriction on him other than impure eyes can not see him. This Syed also was in the thick of it never hiding, often he would say I am the son of Fatima firstly followed then by the words I am the son of the Victor of all Victors /Conquerors Ali the son of Abu Talib. He knew who he was and had a recognition of the bravery of Fatima The Great. He did not send his sons to safe places in America to Be educated in safety at Ivy League universities to be infiltrated and perhaps betray , and on US beaches. He would Walk around with his head bowed, humble saddened but then his beloved, the light of his eyes fell as a martyr and he raised his head and looked the mothers of the martyrs in the eyes and said Now you brother and Son can look you in the eye and say I am your Hadi , yes before I was embarrassed as you had given your sons whilst mine lived “. He like his name had victory upon victory after the 2006 loss the Times of London headline read for the first time ‘with the snap of a lock Israel is defeated‘ Sheperd Smith asked on Fox news an ashen face Israelite commander “ what went wrong you had all the weapons 30000 soldiers armed to the teeth to their 4000 you should have walked it , it should have been easy ‘ the Ashen face commander looked up and in our eyes he said we got it wrong they were everywhere we were surrounded we killed one others would appear out of nowhere’ he spoke from the heart of his introduction to the men of the Syed of Lebanon and as the bombs went off for one non noor relative of the 12th imam how many american bombs for one unarmed man…watch it and see what they would do to your imam if he was visible and they could reach him. The bombs rained down he did not keep civilians as shields with him but who of all people his blessed daughter, not a shield mind but a statement to Lebanons Christians And Muslims …I gave my life and the life of my beloved son and daughter to show you my doubters how much I loved Lebanon 🇱🇧 please my people see that all I did was for you, yes you were my loves more than my children my duty was to you so never give up, stay united to calculate sincerity see who has and is paying the blood price for Liban ask yourselves what have I done for Liban above all believe, especially in yourselves and each other ( not the ones that betray sell out or corrupt) and free Lebanon and my PARTISANS whichever corner you are thank you know that I was a caretaker your servant this parting hurt me as much as it hurt you , a father always worries if his children are ready for the world so fulfill your role witness your time …this struggle will go on be the the right side of history remember the prayer of Joseph the prophet of Allah (Quran 12:101 , 61:8 , 3:144, 33:23, chapter 48) and the words of our prophet (s) I leave you 2 weighty things one is the Book of Allah and the other is my Ahlulbayt hold firm to both till you reach me safely at the pond. I remind you to your duty to my family x3’” till the real leader without whose prayers you would have drowned a long time ago, my Master your Master known as the 12th reveals himself, condolences to you my Partisans on the Martyrdom of the Lady of Light these are her(as) days we suffered but no one suffered like her, draw strength from her and read her words. Fadakia was , in all that pain her heart to heart to you, do not belittle her tragedies for they were such that Ali himself the mountain of patience (imagine how great they were for him to say ) said ‘Oh prophet of Allah my patience has Exhausted about your chosen daughter’ . So griefs have befallen you but know So Many griefs befell her that if they fell on bright days they would have turned to dark nights. She is your Leader, cry for her., before you cry for yourselves. To the nobles and lovers of liberty witness your time and know that life is not a joke Two riders are approaching. I was one though distant I lived in your hearts and you in mine but you are lots witness your generation be the right side of history help where you can., despondency is forbidden on you, Believe!.“ DO not be surprised if the Lebanese with ears and insight living hearts of the renowned spiritual land of saints heard a voice from the heavens say By God Lebanon as the he was embraced by his master and my master Ali …my son by the sanctity of the Kaaba you have been successful. He was Syed Hassan Nasrallah , the son of Fatima , Ali and Liban Salam on the true sons of Fatima no one can beat them. Lannat’Allah on the betrayers And the betrayers of Muslim Ibn Aqeel and praise be to Allah who has placed them in the lowest hell,ٱسْتَحْوَذَ عَلَيْهِمُ ٱلشَّيْطَـٰنُ فَأَنسَىٰهُمْ ذِكْرَ ٱللَّهِ ۚ أُو۟لَـٰٓئِكَ حِزْبُ ٱلشَّيْطَـٰنِ ۚ أَلَآ إِنَّ حِزْبَ ٱلشَّيْطَـٰنِ هُمُ ٱلْخَـٰسِرُونَ Satan has taken hold of them, causing them to forget the remembrance of Allah. They are the party of Satan. Surely Satan’s party will be the losers to! Quran 58:19)..Salaam on the true sons of Fatima, رَضِىَ ٱللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا۟ عَنْهُ ۚ أُو۟لَـٰٓئِكَ حِزْبُ ٱللَّهِ ۚ أَلَآ إِنَّ حِزْبَ ٱللَّهِ هُمُ ٱلْمُفْلِحُونَ Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. They are the party of Allah. Indeed, Allah’s party are the Successful Ones/ Winners(Quran 58:22). wasalaam, keep the author in your prayers Viva Lebanon!

  • @zahiraameen6371
    @zahiraameen6371 Месяц назад +1

    Brilliant analysis. As always Ilan Pappe has been an honorable and eloquent soul. Comment with 10 words for algorithm

  • @davidlyga6259
    @davidlyga6259 Месяц назад

    Yes, there are Jews with great wisdom and, attached to such wisdom is a determination to be honest and straightforward, with no face-saving tactics to mitigate the impetus of such wisdom. Such is Ilan Pappe. - David Lyga

  • @FaisalFaz-q9w
    @FaisalFaz-q9w Месяц назад

    Good analysis

  • @stefanthorpenberg887
    @stefanthorpenberg887 Месяц назад

    The original idea by UN diplomat Folke Bernadotte was one democratic state with equal rights for palestinians and jews, ie a modern secular state built on Enlightenment ideals of freedom, equality and brotherhood. Because of the aggressive approach from extremist sionists he changed to a two state solution, were both states should have equal value, and it should be guarded by UN forces. The extremists didn’t accept that either. Bernadotte was killed by Lehi, called the Stern gang, a fascist organization lead by Yitzak Shamir, a belorussian immigrant who claimed sionist ownership of the whole Palestine, and was later prime minister for the terrorist state. And here we are now. The only solution is a modern one state democratic Palestine with equal rights for everyone, which was Bernadotte’s original idea. Is it still possible to get that? Probably not, a terror state create more and more terror.

  • @JayS-m4u
    @JayS-m4u Месяц назад

    Beautiful, I also have this hope and even expectation of a global-reaching light from Palestine.

  • @sharifphonesolutions3086
    @sharifphonesolutions3086 Месяц назад +1

    The Noble Quran 59:14
    لَا يُقَٰتِلُونَكُمْ جَمِيعًا إِلَّا فِى قُرًى مُّحَصَّنَةٍ أَوْ مِن وَرَآءِ جُدُرٍۭ ۚ بَأْسُهُم بَيْنَهُمْ شَدِيدٌ ۚ تَحْسَبُهُمْ جَمِيعًا وَقُلُوبُهُمْ شَتَّىٰ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ قَوْمٌ لَّا يَعْقِلُونَ
    La yuqatiloonakum jameeAAan illa fee quran muhassanatin aw min warai judurin basuhum baynahum shadeedun tahsabuhum jameeAAan waquloobuhum shatta thalika biannahum qawmun la yaAAqiloona
    They fight not against you even together, except in fortified townships, or from behind walls. Their enmity among themselves is very great. You would think they were united, but their hearts are divided, that is because they are a people who understand not.

  • @hochi5187
    @hochi5187 Месяц назад +1

    GREAT MAN!!!❤❤❤
    From Turkey🇹🇷

  • @Zeyzift
    @Zeyzift Месяц назад

    Can we have the full interview please 🙏

  • @actionjackson9385
    @actionjackson9385 Месяц назад +2

    I hope he's right for the sake of the rightful owners of the land in the region.

  • @neilforbes416
    @neilforbes416 21 день назад

    Why couldn't this be shot in the *PROPER* 16:9 aspect ratio? *THUMBS-DOWN* for shooting in 9:16(Portrait orientation!