cEDH game plans on a budget

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  • @-Ambos-
    @-Ambos- 6 лет назад +27

    Your videos are seriously the highest quality mtg content I have ever seen. Really appreciate it

  • @ehallam08
    @ehallam08 6 лет назад +49

    Great to have a committed cedh channel that doesn't disappear for 6 months at a time.

    • @ehallam08
      @ehallam08 6 лет назад +1

      Also, why wasn't captain sisay in Uma?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +2

      Umbral mantle?

    • @fuukomaster4834
      @fuukomaster4834 6 лет назад

      @@cedhtv masters set

    • @ehallam08
      @ehallam08 6 лет назад

      @@cedhtv yeah, ultimate masters.

    • @highdark4
      @highdark4 6 лет назад

      So true! :D

  • @TLWHDX
    @TLWHDX 6 лет назад +7

    I run the budget frog, and after playing with underrealm lich, it is a very good Budget option, the likelyhood that you will hit a land every time goes up significantly when looking at 3 cards, and it even puts them in the bin for you.

    • @KerminTheGuy
      @KerminTheGuy 6 лет назад +1

      The budget frog is awesome. Less convoluted than the non-budget loops, in my opinion. Underrealm Lich sounds like a pretty good include for consistency

  • @DanielRiveroPadilla
    @DanielRiveroPadilla 6 лет назад +3

    I don't play cEDH but it's awesome to see the explanations of the combos, sometimes looking through 99 cards makes it difficult to understand what's the purpose of the deck.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      Your welcome anyways! It always nice to know stuff in my opinion.

  • @om3n430
    @om3n430 6 лет назад +4

    Awesome content.. Love to see your take on animar in cedh.

  • @coreywhittaker3085
    @coreywhittaker3085 6 лет назад +4

    Hey man i love your Content, Keep up the good work. I'm just starting to get into CEDH and this channel is wonderful.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      Thank you and welcome to the channel!

  • @artiniushornung6774
    @artiniushornung6774 6 лет назад +2

    Since Ultimate Maters i've actually started to build Gitrog Monster. Kozilek is 20$ now compared to the 60-70$ it was before the Reprint.

    • @oateater5044
      @oateater5044 6 лет назад

      I pulled an Ulamog in UMA, so did it really matter which one is used in the deck?

  • @Addrum
    @Addrum 6 лет назад +2

    For anyone interested in budget Breya: go for the dramatic scepter combo build. Also, Worldgorger combo is pretty budget. Doomsday should be the plan 1 and now that LabMan was reprinted the piles should be pretty budget

  • @Cluis.
    @Cluis. 6 лет назад +8

    Wouldnt Gaea's Blessing also a good option ? 4:00

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +1

      Not really. What you wanna do is: put a lot of draw triggers on the stack and keep discarding dakmore slavage. When you have let's say 88 draw triggers on the stack. You keep digging until you it the reshuffling kozilek. Now you consume all the draw triggers and draw the entire deck.
      But we always have more draw triggers then cards to draw. That means we die. What you can do with kozilek is that we can discard it to negate all those extra draw triggers. We can't do that with Geas blessing I am afraid.
      And if we draw cards an at a time while we are discarding, we might draw into geas blessing an now we can't loop.

    • @Cluis.
      @Cluis. 6 лет назад

      @@cedhtv okay than I miss understud the idea ... 😓👍

    • @davidhutchinson4043
      @davidhutchinson4043 6 лет назад

      Cluis if it was sultan you could have commit//memory

  • @xxhellspawnedxx
    @xxhellspawnedxx 6 лет назад

    8:40 Doesn't Mirror-Mad Phantasm bear mentioning, in a Necrotic Ooze Self Mill deck? Requires you to have Ooze already on the field, but does the milling at instant speed, meaning your opponents will have less of a chance of interacting with your board.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +1

      It works. And could have been mentioned. But I have never tried it out myself or seen anyone do it. So I didn't wanna mention it because I can't guarantee its good enough.

  • @apock2474
    @apock2474 6 лет назад +1

    thanks for showing the yisan part. i have been wanting to build it, but Craterhoof is around 25 dollars and i cant seem to find a yisan. But now that i know i dont eed hoof, then i might put more efort into the search for yisan. Could you do a budget "fast" mana deck. I have seen that people recomend cards like jeweled amulet and lotus petal, but i want to know if there are other options.

  • @MasterDecoy1W
    @MasterDecoy1W 6 лет назад +1

    IDK if another comment has already mentioned this, but Gaea's Blessing is a budget Eldrazi Titan for the Gitrog 4 Horsemen. It doesn't have a backup if you accidentally draw it, but it's better than nothing :D
    EDIT: Just found the comment with your excellent response, should have known better than to think I figured it out. Great video, btw.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      No its alright you can't read all the comments all the time. But you are right Gaea's blessing is a good card to include. Normally you run both I believe.

  • @felixdecastro
    @felixdecastro 6 лет назад +2

    Great video! Gaea's Blessing could be a budget option on the Gitrog combo too

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +2

      Not really. What you wanna do is: put a lot of draw triggers on the stack and keep discarding dakmore slavage. When you have let's say 88 draw triggers on the stack. You keep digging until you it the reshuffling kozilek. Now you consume all the draw triggers and draw the entire deck.
      But we always have more draw triggers then cards to draw. That means we die. What you can do with kozilek is that we can discard it to negate all those extra draw triggers. We can't do that with Geas blessing I am afraid.
      And if we draw cards an at a time while we are discarding, we might draw into geas blessing an now we can't loop.

  • @Jonathan-qk5ed
    @Jonathan-qk5ed 5 лет назад

    Love the video man. It would be nice to see some budget Boonweaver options.

  • @FelipeSilva-bq7dk
    @FelipeSilva-bq7dk 5 лет назад +1

    Great content! Congratulations for the channel. Do you have some budget list of Tymna and Kraum?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  5 лет назад

      Not at the moment but it should be possible.

  • @ayish8981
    @ayish8981 6 лет назад +3

    First I want to say that I just recently found your channel as I'm trying to get into cedh and want to thank you for your wonderful videos. I do however have a question. While many of the combos in the video are mostly graveyard based for example with the Flash Hulk combo what are some budget ways to make sure you get the combo pieces? Also for a deck that revolves around winning through flash hulk combos what commander would you recommend? What I've seen so far for it is Thrasios/Tymna.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      Thrasios/Tymna is the two Flash hulk masters, yes. Spellseeker can find flash. The fierce empath can find hulk. Merchant scroll can also find flash. Spell seeker and merchant scroll are even played in budget less decks btw. If you can afford summoners pact I would play that one to.

  • @artiniushornung6774
    @artiniushornung6774 6 лет назад

    Oh, and i forgot, you can actually loop with just Gaea's Blessing. The reason why Kozilek is so much better is because you can discard it if you draw it and still shuffle your graveyard while Gaea's Blessing requires you to mill it. Also, it only works with Instant-Speed win conditions unlike Kozilek which enables Sorcery Speed win-cons like Praetor's Grasp infinite times.

  • @irlylikecanada
    @irlylikecanada 6 лет назад

    Another great video. Looking forward to the eventual Paradox Scepter Thrasios deck tech as well ;)

  • @obiparcon16
    @obiparcon16 6 лет назад +1

    awesome content as always! thank you! any idea how to make a competitive reanimator dimir deck?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      Which dimir commander are you thinking of? Sure it easy. Drop a big creature in the grave. There is a bunch. Razaketh ... Razaketh and more razaketh. hehe. No, I am kidding. There actually is a bunch. You can go for value reanimator to bring back big stompy creatures that give you huge card draw. Gin-gitaxis is a good example of this. Or Nezahal is also great.
      But my personal favorite is Tidespout tyrant. Damn that Djiin is good. It's also a good way to get infinite mana with only rocks. But we can also use the Djiin to get rid of problematic hatebears.
      The color of blue is good at discarding cards, if budget; merfolk looter. If your rich if have a bigger budget, Baby jace. But I also recommend, pull from tomorrow. You can discard you big reanimator target that way.

    • @obiparcon16
      @obiparcon16 6 лет назад

      @@cedhtv thanks for the suggestion. i have a value reanimator Scarab God that has ways to self mill all my library (e.g basalt monolith - mesmeric orb) and Dread Return a Lab Man and flashback Deep Analysis or Think Twice for the win. however, i feel that Scarab God is fast becoming irrelevant that I could swap Sygg in as the Commander and the merfolk won't change the deck dynamics that much.

  • @YGORetroRewind
    @YGORetroRewind 4 года назад

    Budget alternative to Walking Ballista for the Necrotic Ooze combo : Bloodrite Invoker. You have infinite mana anyway, so you can just drain the table.

  • @raoulkent
    @raoulkent 6 лет назад

    Schyssta videos! Skulle vara intressant att se hur du skulle bygga just Najela på budget, och hur långt du kan slimma det utan att det blir för magert för att ens kunna slåss med andra cEDH decks!

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +1

      Najeela är svår att få budget asså. Hennes mana bas kräver så himla mycket. Har en version där jag bara kör basic länder förutom alla 10 fetchar. Sen blod måne, back to basic och några andra varianter. Å andra sidan är blod måne och company dyrt också.

    • @raoulkent
      @raoulkent 6 лет назад

      Tack för svar! @@cedhtv
      Vad tycker du om ex: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/600-budget-warrior-queen-cedh-najeela-tempo/ ?
      Den verkar vara ganska budget men ändå så ligger, som du säger, mycket pengar i länder.

  • @Ianoxen
    @Ianoxen 6 лет назад +10

    Aren't majority of win cons in almost any cedh deck just budget? I think most of the expensive deck's budget goes to the cards that make your win cons faster eg. duals, fetches, exp mana rocks, tutors etc. But win cons themselves are majority budget.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +2

      Not all. That is why I showcased food chain. I was thinking of showing storm as a budget option. But, it is hard to build storm without some really key cards. like Yawgmots will. And all OP OP OP mana rocks.

    • @ebbandfloatzel
      @ebbandfloatzel 6 лет назад

      @@cedhtv I think the closest you can get to budget storm are the paradoxical outcome storm decks. You need to get a lot of the more expensive rocks, but you can make do with cantrips/rituals as well. You can use Past in Flames/Kess as budget options for the win con (Paradox a few times with a Aetherflux res out,) and ofc you can always have the iso/dramatic as secondary. It's certainly not as effective, and I'm not sure if it's cEDH viable... But that's sort of how I'm building my Yidris deck rn.

  • @hadjosrs1529
    @hadjosrs1529 6 лет назад +1

    Hello cedh tv! Would you be willing to look over a decklist that I've been tuning, and maybe give some advice? Your channel rocks!

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +1

      Sure send a link here. I look at it when I get time. But first what do you want your deck to do?

    • @hadjosrs1529
      @hadjosrs1529 6 лет назад

      @@cedhtv It's Kozilek, Butcher of Truth ramp :p tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kozilek-cedh/
      It wants to cast Kozilek as soon as possible and has a lot of cheap haste. It has a Paradox Engine plan, too.

  • @wizardsmix7961
    @wizardsmix7961 6 лет назад +1

    Hey, great video as always. Just thought I'd ask here since it's a more recent vid. What do you think of spellskite in Najeela Aluren? If lightning helix gets exiled by something you can gain infinite life using nature's claim as an ok out. It also helps disrupt certain combos or can protect your combo.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      During the "Aluren combo run", we have ultimate control power. We can flicker spell seeker and find pack of negation, or naget, or anything similar. Then flicker Darevi and get mana to cast those spells. Witch should deal with almost anything.
      During the third hulk trigger before I have Aluren in play, you find spell seeker and Imperial recruiter together, shard CMC 6. That gives you pact of negation in your hand. After that, you sac Academy rector and get aluren in play. Now you have protection (a tiny bit at least) vs rec sage that can be cast in instant speed from an opponent during the "Aluren combo run". I feel this should do the job.
      BUT!
      This spell seeker thing isn't really guaranteed. What you could do is on your third hulk trigger find, YES, spellskite together with the imperial recruiter. Also sometimes we have to card cast aluren and can't really on hulk tricks to get things into play. But I guess it comes down to meta.
      IF!
      Your opponents play A lot of tymna, spellskite would be a good blöocker. but also if your opponent like to kill Najeela over and over. I usually let Najeela get killed and eat removal and just recast her. Or let them Tap out to deal with her and then cast Aluren. I don't really see a need for me to get spellskite. But I can see a good use for the artifact horror.
      ONE MORE THING!
      If your opponents play a lot of stax pieces that you wanna protect. Then the spellskite is good too. So it's strange. It could be played but it depends on the meta I think.

  • @Speedygamer22343
    @Speedygamer22343 5 лет назад

    I have an inalla deck with a hit everyone with bloodline necromancer tokens plan a plan b sac those tokens for comet storm and plan c retry plan a

  • @wasithpol
    @wasithpol 5 лет назад

    Sydri galvanic genius on a budget or just a deck tech pls 🧐🧐🧐🧐 I just started playing edh but my playgroup is cedh while being the only budget guy in the group your concept video really helps alot

  • @ryanlinkous8651
    @ryanlinkous8651 5 лет назад

    Mimeoplasm please!! Want to see what you come up with. He's a very creative commander and competitive.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  5 лет назад

      I guess it is my next one then!

  • @hanniballecture
    @hanniballecture 5 лет назад

    I'd love some budget tech decks

  • @qwopinbound
    @qwopinbound 6 лет назад +1

    Oh man I've been missing out on so much free beer! Also I kinda want to build Breya because Kaalia has been getting boring. Any recommendations? I don't have Mox Diamond but I do have the other expensive artifacts. I'm also interested in Zur enchant value/control.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +1

      I recommend either Breya Eggs. That one is close to value Zur control. Or Breya storm with is weird (and hard to get going) but her me out.
      You have dramatic reversal and scepter inside your deck. But you can use dramatic reversal as a big ritual for all your artifacts to untap. And your commander is a control card in the command zone. You can kill cards like gadock teeg with here. However, this isn't budget because you kinda need mox dimond ...

    • @qwopinbound
      @qwopinbound 6 лет назад +1

      @@cedhtv I'm getting Mox Diamond in about a month or so. I'll look into Breya Eggs because I've never really heard of it and I might like it. Thank you for the recommendation and keep up your lovely work

  • @CC-fi3pp
    @CC-fi3pp 6 лет назад +1

    Brilliant channel

  • @thomsonchan2
    @thomsonchan2 6 лет назад +1

    I have an upgraded version of the edric deck, including cradle, better counterspells and mana base. But still, the deck is still semi-competitive as it basically depends on the commander to set up the draw engine and extra turns. Is there a way that edric can be a true competitive deck in the future??

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      The Meta game is kinda wrong for him. Currently he only gives Tymna and Najeela more card draw then he gives himself, and actually becoming a group hug commander. And many decks have adapted towards Tymna and Najeela (and other decks that are also attacking) and included simple board whips like pyroclasm.
      And the thing is that Tymna and Najeela don't really care if they lose all there creatures. Because that ain't always part of their gameplan.
      But Edrics entire game plan is creature oriented. He needs his creatures.

    • @SoundScienceMediaWorks
      @SoundScienceMediaWorks 6 лет назад

      THOM WINGTUNG CHAN
      Edric is still very effective in cEdh.
      He is not a budget build how ever.
      His game plan is flying men. Unblockable or evasive one drops with extra turn spells and ($$expensive )super efficient counters to protect .
      He can chain turns and wipe an entire table quickly especially once notorious throng is online.
      Check out reddit/cedh there are discussions on him

  • @frankfiore3886
    @frankfiore3886 6 лет назад +1

    Is there any way you would be willing to make either a zur the enchanter combo deck featuring Solemnity , Altar of dementia , and Puppeteer Clique ? I have a semi deck list already build that im working on. If not I understand .

  • @robertraffensberger9051
    @robertraffensberger9051 6 лет назад

    Five color combo decks sounds fun to watch videos on

  • @Enlorand
    @Enlorand 6 лет назад +2

    Love the work, love CEDH. but where is your accent from? its bothering me that I cant tell.

    • @ORACLE99999
      @ORACLE99999 6 лет назад +1

      Enlorand germany I would guess

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +1

      Sweden :)

  • @poptartarmy8338
    @poptartarmy8338 6 лет назад +3

    I love your content, I was curious is gaddock teeg a cedh commander or not

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      No. He seas play a lot inside decks. A must-have for Sisay. But as a commander, he is just bad.

  • @mathieu7921
    @mathieu7921 6 лет назад +1

    My group has been tired out of combo decks, we are trying to make our games more fair. So beatdown midrange ramp seems the way we are going. Any deck recommandation that wouldn't be an infinite combo deck but still close to cedh level?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      cEDH is all about winning. If group hug was the best way to win group hug wold be what people played. Being good at competitive TCG is figuring out how you are going to defeat your opponents.
      If I was going to play agaienst you guys and you tolm me; "we are playing midrange beatdown ramp, and we banned combo". I would go for creature control. Steal your creatures. I think that would be your cEDH meta. Or I would play Valakut.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      Otherwise Tymna Kraum hatebears I guess is the deck you might be looking for.

    • @mathieu7921
      @mathieu7921 6 лет назад

      @@cedhtv thanks for the argument to keep playing combo. i really appreciate your budget series

  • @ShadowleCato
    @ShadowleCato 6 лет назад

    Do you think nekusar can be built comptitivly enough to use in cEDh without a budget?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +3

      Nekusar is a group hug commander. Giving your opponent's card draw is just bad. Sorry.

  • @smilepandabye
    @smilepandabye 6 лет назад

    What are you considering budget? Mine is sitting at about $600 which is pretty cheap for “cEDH”

    • @ryanlinkous8651
      @ryanlinkous8651 5 лет назад

      Bruh you can make plenty decks cheaper than that and be pretty competitive. My mimeoplasm currently is at 460, it will be a $600-700 build when complete on the path I'm taking currently for upgrades. But I know people who have build najeela or gitrog for cheaper than ours and are ridiculously competitive.

  • @cpudraner
    @cpudraner 6 лет назад

    Budget cdh whisper?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      ?

    • @cpudraner
      @cpudraner 6 лет назад

      @@cedhtv Whisper, Blood Liturgist. Do you think she's a possible CDH deck?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад +1

      As a commander now. Inside a deck yes. I have been trying to come up with some necrotic ooze ide with her. or some hulk tricks. So fare no good however. But it should be possible to exploit her ability.

  • @noxouphe4370
    @noxouphe4370 6 лет назад

    Flash hulk: get phyrexian delver and viscera seer returning hulk, sacrifice hulk to get karmic guide and torch courier returning hulk, sacrifice hulk to get llanowar envoy, nomads en kor and cephalid ilusionist, mill your entire deck, flashback dread return sacrificing nomads en kor, cephalid ilusionist and karmic guide to get back reveillark, sacrifice reveillark to get back vizier of remedies and devoted druid, sacrifice torch courier to give haste to the devoted druid, get infinite mana and transform that mana into black mana with llanowar envoy, and then kill everyone with cut to ribbons. This was my long but budget combo.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  6 лет назад

      hahahahaha. Great read. I should do a video on "funny budget solutions!"
      how many cards are in that package?

    • @noxouphe4370
      @noxouphe4370 6 лет назад +1

      @@cedhtv There are 14 cards in this combo.

    • @noxouphe4370
      @noxouphe4370 6 лет назад

      @@cedhtv Also, do you think slice in twain is a good removal spell or does it cost too much mana?

  • @DomFoolery175
    @DomFoolery175 6 лет назад +1

    budget ydris storm with lots of cascade

  • @ingHthomas
    @ingHthomas 6 лет назад

    Netrunner😍😍😍😍😍

  • @dominikwusa3570
    @dominikwusa3570 6 лет назад +1

    Like the content :)

  • @Hakkene
    @Hakkene 5 лет назад

    feelsgood european prices not some tcg or cardkingdom garbage

  • @Just_vikinggg
    @Just_vikinggg 5 лет назад

    Honestly the moxs are what's keeping me out of cedh

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  5 лет назад

      I don't blame you. I don't play legacy because I have to buy so many dual lands.