Best Decks to Build on a Budget w/ The Commander’s Quarters I The Command Zone 293 I Magic MTG
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
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Show Notes:
If you’re looking to really stretch your dollar while still having a chance to win games of EDH, some deck archetypes might be more successful than others. On this episode Jimmy and Josh are joined by the budget expert, Mitch from The Commander’s Quarters, to discuss which decks can be both powerful AND affordable.
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Still wanna see Mitch, at the table, getting knighted.
He plays for keeps though. On Spike Feeders he won in like 15 minutes lol
I wouldnt be surprised if hes on the next Game Knights.
I'm still waiting for the game with prof and rudy
@@wiseoldwyrm765 someone other than josh Lee kwai winning? Impossible!
Josh's has been winning quite a bit lately
@@derekwalter4238 Rudy? Football players can't play commander
Marsh: am I a joke to you?
First off there's wayfarers bauble...
First up*
I was mildly disappointed they didn't start with budget ramp cards so they they could have wayfarer's bauble first.
He talks about bauble in every episode he does basically
@@buddatello thats the joke
wHaTs tHaT?!
I remember I first started watching Commander's Quarters when he only had a couple videos, it was so crazy to watch his channel grow so fast and for him to become so well established in the community!
I satrted watching him since his Jodah video, and I really liked how he listened and responded to fans, while making strong budget decks. So I stuck with his channel and here I am.
ALowly Slime yah I remember that too when he almost only posted deck techs. I still like him but I think he posts to Lucy other crap and not enough deck texhd
It's extremely amusing how surprised and amazed Josh seems to be with the fact that a $25 Commander deck is possible.
Lugh Ildanach 100%. I remember chuckling when he said he was “slumming it with shocks” when fetching into a shock land one game.
I’ve seen these guys play with hundred plus dollar cards and whenever I look at their deck list it’s always over a thousand
@@Polyoctopus1 They're sponsored by a card reseller, I wouldn't be surprised if they get deals on the cards they buy for the show.
@@noesunyoutuber7680 fair point. I guess since I’m a budget player it’s just shocking how expensive these decks can be
I really hope Mitch is in the next game Knights episode
RethParish yes
Forever yes
Infinitely yes
46:15 if you listen closely you can hear Mitch say that Josh was surprised last night when Mitch cast that card. So it is very likely that Mitch is coming on an episode.
turn 1 wayfarer's bauble
@@junhianling You do realise they just play with their guests? Also I doubt theyd film like late at night judging from some vlogs etc
RethParish the guys i want are Mitch Saffron Olive and Rudy
YESSS THEY DID IT, THEY GOT HIM ON!!!!!
Are we going to finally see an episode of Game Knights where the decks are affordable??
The Precons are affordable :)
Farycane facts
I’m ok with them using the expensive dual lands or tutors because it just makes the decks more consistent without them comboing out.
Budget EDH COMMANDER decks are around $2,000.00
Josh loves vedalken orery but it’s $40 so i am not really I fan
Awesome to finally be able to put a face to the name.
The Spike Feeders Wasn’t he on your show? Or am I thinking of another channel XD
@@cheesecake2449 You are probably thinking of the Janklords, where he played a Jori En deck.
@@cheesecake2449 he was one Spike feeders
@@cheesecake2449 i think spike feeders are referring to budget commander, not commander quarters.
“Pitiless Plunderer will never be expensive...”
Welcome to 2021
Was looking for the comment 🤣
Came here looking for this lol
Just wanted to add I also came looking for this comment
laughing in 2022
Checking in from 2023. It's only gotten worse.
The Command Zone & The Commander’s Quarters in one video? Top 10 Anime Crossovers.
Nova Glacial and they were singing weezer, one of my favorite bands? This is a HUGE crossover episode for me 😊
One of my good friends, and the guy who introduced me to Commander (thanks my dude!) told me that lands are probably one of the biggest traps when budgeting for commander decks. I know everyone wants the best mana base possible, and it is undisputed that having a diversified mana base is really helpful when playing 3+ color decks, but you have to consider the impact that diversified mana production is going to have versus just waiting an extra turn for an ETB tapped land that costs 10 cents. He told me he would rather allocate 40 dollars to big impact cards rather than spend 100+ dollars just so he can have shocks and fetches. Bonus points if you can run a mono color deck with cheap but synergistic cards like Sram, where most of your lands are plains that cost pennies.
This is very good advice. The key to running a good budget deck is to prioritize as much of that budget as possible to cards that are both powerful and synergistic with the core strategy of the deck. The trade-off for this is a somewhat 'inconsistent' mana base and perhaps a slower ramp/curve than other players at a higher budget. This is where the beauty of running one or two color decks really shines. You can easily make a powerful, competitive deck in one or two colors without straining the budget on an expensive mana base.
Lands are a great investment to make before you start investing in other high-tier, expensive cards, however. Lands and colorless rocks are very flexible pieces that can slot into most decks. These are what players who want to expand their budget should choose to invest in first. But, it is important to recognize when the time to invest in them is correct. A player should consider the relative power increase between a faster land package v.s. another $20-30 card slotted in their deck.
In my opinion, the correct time to make an investment in lands/rocks is dependent on the relative power of your deck v.s. your own meta. When you hit the level of power that most players in your meta are at, instead of continuing the pursuit of more power, it is better to focus on increasing the consistency of your deck with more efficient lands and a faster ramp package. This will help you 'future-proof' yourself as your meta increases in power over time, and it will give you access to a more consistent mana base if you ever decide to invest in a deck with more than one or two colors. In a deck with three or more colors, the mana base can become more important than anything else. After all, if you aren't getting the correct colors of mana on the turns it is needed, how will you stay involved in the game?
@@dannyboy3997 That's a very good point about land investment. Expensive but superior lands like the shocks, fetches, or even the original duals are never going to be a mistake when it comes to building decks in the long run. There are even some budget work-arounds like the Odyssey filter lands, which are not perfect but definitely worth it over just running a basic.
Also for budget players are the existence of green mana fixing in its ramp selections, as well as signets and other mana rocks like Fellwar Stone (not super budget but hey) that can assist in fixing issues without dumping hundreds of dollars into the absolute best lands.
My first commander deck was Wort, Boggart Auntie. A pretty basic Rakdos land base which I have slowly added to as I have opened cards like Bloodstained Mire in packs. Will I ever buy a badlands to round out the mana base? Probably not, but the deck doesn't suffer much for its absence.
My expensive magic ambitions: you can’t defeat me
My wallet: I know, but he can
Wayfarers bauble entered the chat
After 3 years, I finally finished my $1000 Breya deck.
I got beat by a slightly upgraded precon yesterday
I'm not mad, just disappointed
Literally my favorite comment ever
@@JesusGarcia-jh8zd its ok, I beat a crazy glissa combo deck with a $70 Tana voltron deck
@@JesusGarcia-jh8zd dont worry, the amount of times ive turn 3 killed someone with a cEDH deck with tainted strike on my Yargle is so high at this point, its the best (coming from someone who loves cEDH)
@@austinblankenship7631 I just made a $30 krenko mob boss deck... Goblins are too easy
Topic starts at 6:55
You the real hero.
Thanks hero
My fave man
Who else wants to see an episode of Game Knights with Mitch, where each player uses a deck no more expensive than $25-30? 🤔
It’s great to see Mitch finally on an episode of the command zone. Does this mean we will get Mitch in Game Knights?
Extra Turns maybe?!
Hopefully!
Almost definitely, I feel like almost anytime they have a guest on the CZ it's because they're also in studio to film Game Knights
Would be nice
@@grifffourn8200 Which is just naturally. Logistic wise it makes little sense to have a person over if they are only doing a normal episode. They did play so the might as well record one of those matches. When doing videos time is a resource you better max out of that resource if you wanna be professional. If they don't it isa missed opportunity of revenue.
Hey! The Plainswalkers thing had me thinking: Has Mitch ever thought of a video series where he tackles an expensive archetype, on an unlimited budget, but as cheap as he can make it?
He in fact, has does some deck techs with unlimited budgets
Most of those are community decks he found in the wild
Is a Plainswalker deck a mono-white deck that runs all the white Planeswalkers and only basic Plains?
@@Nharzhool yes
Nharzhool or a deck build around graceful antelope
Mitch holding his tongue when they are talking about Card Kingdom (their sponsor) and Shit talking TCG Player (his sponsor) at the end there is so much fun to watch.
50:43
Especially since the comments regarding TCG weren't even all that accurate
He kinda looked ashamed lol. It was very funny to watch 🤣
Dream game:
Josh
Jimmy
Mitch
MTG Muddstah guy
j s oh hell yes
I’d trade pit MTG Muddstah Guy for Craig Blanches as he is such a super competitive player that doesn’t know the meaning of budget.
B U D G E T G A M E K N I G H T S !!!
Andrew A.K.A. MTG Muddstah would be great
What about the professor 🤔
When Mitch started his channel, I was on vacation with my wife, and she was sick for several days. I was fortunate enough to have his channel in between caring for her. I'm so glad to see him here on Game Knights, and I can't wait to see his future videos!
MITCH IS SO TALL!
love you man, happy to see you on the Command Zone! Good stuff Jimmy and JLK!
Tyler Kaune he is seated between 2 Asian guys, how can you tell? His arms? Lol
Mitch: "So...can Wayfarers bauble be my commander?"
I’m going to cast Ensoul Artifact on my wayfarers bauble.
For a serious answer to a silly question: Golos.
@@SomeFreakingCactus You speak reason
I love Mitches budget Muldrotha commander deck, I have it right next to me, but I have upgraded it with cards I have had previously and it plays really well! Thanks Mitch! Hope your channel continues to grow! Great content!
Yeaaaaaah my man did it! He finally made it onto the Command Zone! Hecks yeah!
First you buy wayfarer’s bauble, then jam 99 other cards into the deck.
Marvel: Avengers Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover in history.
The Command Zone: Hold my sleeves!
One of my favorite decks I built is a budget deck, for like 20$ I built a Uril, the miststalker deck. This was after playing for like a year or so. After playing a few games with him he earned the esteemed title of "Slap Daddy" in my play group. Recently my group is playing stronger and stronger decks so it needs to be optimized a little but it is still fun to play.
"Pitiless Plunderer will never be that expensive." - Josh Lee Kwai
Best tip:
Take a commander and a deck strategy that hardly anyone else plays. You will notive, that most of the cards are way cheaper.
Also: Build the deck before Command Zone makes an episode about it. Card prices will rise afterwards ^^
1) I really hope they played a game with Mitch for extra turns, and 2) I love the little smirk from Mitch at the end when they're plugging Card Kingdom (seems like they don't know about the optimize feature lol).
Mitch has such a fantastic personality, and he's so incredibly knowledgeable! Please have him on the show more, this quickly became on of my favorite episodes!
So, will you bring any of the cEDH content creators to the show? I would love to see either the Laboratory Maniacs, Spike Feeders, or Playing with Power guys on the show. Even for a few games of Xtra Turns. 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
I think the only issue with this is command zone guys dont play cedh a lot
@@miaschwartz1074 they don't play brawl or oathbreaker much either, but they make room. 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
I mean, I don't think anything is off the table. The only problem is Idk if those guys would be interested. Although, on the other hand, lab maniacs were super hyped to play cedh with that guy from the rules committee
hanna klasifire I know for a fact JLK has a cedh deck so it's not too out of the question
Speaking of Spike Feeders, they would love to play on GK, it just needs to happen at some point they come to the U.S. and play afaik (source: previous discussions on their discord).
JLK “Pitiless Plunderer is just never going to be that expensive….” That card now sits comfortably at $20 up from less than $2 at time of recording.
My friends are just getting into commander these past two months and they asked some good reference/idea points. I suggested both of your channels. Perfect timing!
Sounds like Mitch busted out his Golos deck against Josh and Jimmy. Built it and love it!
My Muldrotha started as a Commanders Quarters deck. My Feather is still pretty much stock from his list with a few of the upgrades. Krikk, which I only built recently, started as a replica of his deck, then I realized how many mono black staples I had laying around. All three are amazingly powerful right now.
My fiancee has a Gishath deck that is pretty close to, if not identical to Mitch's list, his Tatyova started as one, but it got a lot of love and upgrades over its lifespan. That Tatyova deck is absolutely terrifying now, but it was still really good right when it started.
Mitch's decks are great, I love his content, and I'm so glad you guys did this collab. All the Commander's Quarters decks make for a really good starting point, and they're all really well balanced against eachother.
Oh, and good budget cards I don't see very often: Jarad's Orders is a great tutor, and if a deck CAN run Villainous Wealth, it SHOULD probably run Villainous Wealth. It's a bit hard to cast, costing Sultai and X, but I've personally seen it end more games than Expropriate. Partially because of how expensive Expropriate is. You could even hypothetically cast Expropriate off of it, without spending a single cent on the card! So good!
MITCH! I've been waiting for this crossover for so long, great to see content creators branching out more frequently to make great videos. Awesome episode!
The most highly anticipated crossover event of the season!! Thanks guys!
Oh my god. I am so proud of commander quarters. I knew he would get this far.
First up there's wayfarers bauble, first up there's wayfarers bauble...damn. it never came.
We can't be mentioning wayfarers bauble, then he won't be able to include them in his deck due to the increase in price lol
Awesome info! I just got into MTG and I even did a video on why people should join Magic in 2020. What should I do for Commander? I opened a bunch of random packs from random sets haha.
If you have a group that plays commander they are very likely to have spare decks. Borrow some see what you like and go from there.
The commander decks are amazing for introducing yourself to the format as well
If you're looking to start building a commander deck its best to buy the precons or just the singles.
What legendary creatures did you get from random packs?.. that could be a decent start depending on the pulls...
Frickin YES! Finally mich on the command zone! Keep it up both of you! 👍
bought his budget skullbriar deck, one of my scariest decks in my play group, for i think it was 30 ish when i bought it
YES! Finally! Thank you so much for getting Mitch on the show.
I started commander 2 years ago while watching command zone and only playin precon. Then the commander quarter came and I started to build some of his deck and arrange it when the budget can. I have like build around 10 deck of mitch. In EU, card are way more cheaper and you can build some for like 15 € ! You both made me into commander and for that I can only say thanks from the deepest of my heart. It's an achievement as a player that u finally met! Much love from France.
My tip for budget on Auras: Bruna, Light of Alabaster. the Commander itself costs a couple of cents and there are a ton of cheap but powerful Auras in UW.
I had a blast making a strange color combo for Auras. I made an Intet, the Dreamer enchantress deck. I made it as a recommendation to make a deck that uses Witch Hunt. So instead of a crazy wacky red deck, I made an enchantress deck the best I could without going all colored.
My most favorite episode in awhile. Have this guy on more! Get him on extra turns and game knights
I want to see Mitch on Game Knights with all budget decks
y'all know what this means, Mitch is gonna play a budget deck in the next game knights.
Which will then become unbudget just like some of these cards already are, just hours later. Definitely some spikes occurring. It's great to have budget discussions/gameplay but they really need to be careful of their own influence...
Yeah, but that would only work if everyone was playing budget, and how would Josh fit Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers/Vedalken Orrery/Cyclonic Rift/Rhystic Study/revised Duals and other $20+ cards in *every single non-precon/draft deck he ever plays?*
@@brendaneichler5244 "I wish they played decks they actually built themselves, but not the cards they want to use!" = Every subscriber on here.
@@andrewsparkes8829 I'm not saying he's wrong to play with those cards, just that his preferred play style is antithetical to a budget episode.
Mitch might be on extra turns and game knights.
Great to see Quarter’s get some props!
So happy to see this collaboration. I am a huge fan of both of these channels. Two of the most professional MTG channels in the business.
Two of my favorite magic channels join forces, awesome. Now we need a commander game.
My first two decks (Nikya and Feather) were built based on Commander's Quarters deck lists. His videos were the first edh content I watched/listened to when I started playing magic earlier this year.
So much yes! My two favorite RUclips channels!!
Anje is a great card to make a budget deck around, as all it revolves arounds filling your deck with madness cards which are all very inexpensive.
Super cool to see Mitch here! Very excited!
Budget commander with Mitch rocks, you guys rock, thanks for the sweet video guys!
Finally my 2 favorite channels all on the same show! Awesome episode guys. Hoping for an Extra Turns or Game Knights with Mitch on it
Man I love Mitch’s budget decks. I built niv-mizzet parun, muldrotha, and yuriko from his videos. Those decks rocked and they definitely hold their own. Best $25 I spent at that time for building those commander decks. Thanks Mitch!
I love how Josh said at 11:30 "Pitiless Plunderer is just never gonna be really expensive." and here we are 3 years later with a $12 market price
I have loved command quarters content, his video on miv mizzet reborn is the core of my deck and he has shown me that I can build strong decks for cheap. I have recently been working on a Torbran burn everybody deck for around 30 dollars. That said it is amazing to see two of my favorite channels work together it feels like the first time I saw Dj or the professor on the show and I love how the community comes and works together
It's been a while since this video came out, and considering that many new players started playing after the release of the latest sets like LOTR and Doctor Who, I think would be nice if an updated version of this video came out.
I just wanted to say thank you for the semblance anvil drop. I've been building my kess mill deck for a while and that is a nice add to drop more.
Perfect timing with this episode, thanks guys.
This past weekend Tidespout Tyrant won me the game with Stonecloaker in hand and Warden of Evos Isle on board. So much fun (for me).
Aaaahh love ya channel mitch! Glad to see you're on the command zone!!
My first EDH deck was based from a budget deck of this channel, Reaper King.
Even after making other 2 decks, RP EDH remains as my favorite, thank you!
so glad they finally did a episode with command quaters
Got to love that I subbed to Commander's Quarters after his second episode. So worth it
Best voice of RUclips, ever.
I've had quite some success with a rareless Zada Hedron Grinder that used Mitch's $15 deck tech as a base.
So this means we will eventually get a Game Knights with Mitch!!! WOOOOOO
My first deck I built of someone else’s list was Mitch’s Nikya of the Old Ways deck. Love it!!! I’ve made a few changes but it was a great starting point. I’m now looking at his Meren deck list for ideas.
Wayfarer's Bauble joined the chat
I have a simic +1+1 deck where I use the combination of pir and toothy as my commander
It's funny you mention pulling an Urza and building a deck around it, I bought a pack this weekend and thought about that and then sold it and turned it into a pauper deck utilizing the Urza lands. Turned my little pack into a competitive deck! It was pretty cool
Watching this now and it is such a good video. Just getting into playing commander and this has been very helpful
LOL, just re-watched this episode- @ 11:35- Josh- "Pitiless Plunderer is just never gonna be an expensive card"- Card Kingdom Price today- $15.99 USD
My two favorite Magic Channels in the same episode. so Happy
This is one of the greatest crossovers of MtG RUclips, period. Also, please get this man on Game Knights.
Mitch is a great magic dude, great to see him here!
I built budget Yuriko using Mitch's list. I often crush everyone at my playgroup, including the ones that win in 5 turns. Haven't upgraded it yet. I had no idea that my favorite gaming style was available in MTG. Thanks, Mitch!
Most of my Commander decks are budget! Aggro strategies have worked really well for me. My Tetsuko Umezawa and Depala, Pilot Exemplar decks cost $50 total but they win a surprising amount of games against some powerful decks at my LGS!
So Brilliant Ultimatum is a very underrated card and one of my favorites! It scales very well with the power of your deck which I love!
@33:18 - It is basically eggs, or the old vintage Tendrils decks. Cast free artifacts, bounce the back with rebuild and play them again and then storm off.
Hell yeah! Mitch is my favorite next you guys. Amped to watch fully
Kenrith is also great for all cards sitting in chairs decks.
Mitch getting the recognition he deserves!!! Awesome!
I would love to see a Game Knights with MTG Muddstah and Mitch.
WHOO HOO!!!! Mitch, glad to see you!
Now I have that song stuck in my head for the next 3 days. Thanks.
Nice! My two favorite commander decks I have are Teysa Karlov and Kenrith the Returned King! I just built the Kenrith deck and I won my second game with him last week.
i have made 2 decks that Mitch has made on his channel and they are awesome , thanks Mitch and keep up the great work
Great to see Mitch here, nice episode !
The mana dork myr!!! They're amazing for ramp for folks who can't get ahold of other rocks. Spring leaf drum, ally encampment and survivors encampment are also stellar if your in a go wide style, since your weak tokens turn into mana dorks
I wanted his budget kraken tribal but it went up to 90$ :(
Modify it, all decks posted on YT are always snapshots in time. Swap out the more expensive stuff for other things (sometimes there are more new toys from sets that have been released since the upload)
And order on TCGplayer for the lowest prices
@@xSkye629x most of the problem is when you buy it on card kingdom it's a shit ton of different sellers
@@milkmancometh1216 try using tcg player and optimizing your cart to match sellers. You can save a lot of money on shipping
@@milkmancometh1216 Did you mean TCGplayer? cuz CK is a single vendor
My kind of episode.. the budget one. Awesome crossover this one
One of the best episodes in a long time
Wow.... what a great collaboration!
Great episode! So incredibly refreshing to hear Mitch talk under 250,000 words per minute. On his channel, he's basically competing with the dude from those old Micro Machines commercials.
@thecommandersquarters is so good. Mad info packed into 15 mins. I've built 15 decks using his advice 👌👌👌👌 killer