Hello ex-Muslim. I would just like to say that I am a metalhead that enjoys such music but it upsets me that such good music is anti-religion or bands also like damaar (دمار) it’s so upsetting they used Quran in their music and since I respect my religion I choose not to listen to it. I would like to ask, why did you leave Islam?
@@severedfingers My guess, just like all ex-Muslims and unlike ex-Christians, they don't leave over logic and nonsensical concepts (such as the trinity fallacy), but because of being brutalized by barbarous ethnic cultures which claim to represent a universal faith (Pakistani, Afghani, etc).
@@severedfingers السلام عليكم عربي اخوي ؟ انا اسمع الميتال من حوالي ١٧ سنه والعينات هاذي موجوده من زمان اغلبهم تتجادل معهم وتطلع اسباب الحادهم ضعيفه جداً ودايماً انا واصدقائي ننسف الحادهم في دقايق اسبابهم تافه ومضيعه للوقت اغلبهم الحدو بسبب الاغاني اثرت وتحكمت فيهم هذول ضعاف جداً ، ولا الي يجيك مسوي فيها عابد لابليس هذا شخص اضعف واضعف تافهين والله العظيم
The guy behind Ghost Bath created a even bigger bullshit back story for his vapor wave project. He claimed to be from Kazakhstan, wrote edgy Tumblr poetry in Chinese and hinted he was in a mental hospital in Georgia, lol. Dude seems to have a problem just being Bill from Minnesota.
Anahita is a Persian name therefore Iranian. The artwork on the album is from an Iranian artist Shirin Neshat. And Iblis is a diety from Zoroasthrianism which is Iran's pre Islam religion. It all points to Iran which is Persian and has nothing to do with Iraq Which is Arab. Edit: They might be Iranian and saying they're Iraqi to mislead anyone who might find out who they are cause they'd be certainly executed in Iran if they're discovered. There's a shitload of women named Anahita in Iran but I doubt that there's any with that name in Iraq cause it's 100% a Persian name not Arabic.
In 5:02 They wrote they are from fu(king Iraq, then wrote they are from great/absolute Baghdad . Another thing was the word حنا which it is misspelled "we" in the Baghdadi accent (but used in other areas in Iraq in this way). So I see this ensures your POV
@@Mesopotamian First of all you're Arab not Assyrian so don't be trying to steal their culture like y'all did with their land. Arabic stole the word Iblis from Persians, it's been used by Persians in written accounts way before there was any Arabic in written language at all. The girl's name is Anahita a Perisan name of the water Godess in Zoroastrianism it's not Zahra or Zeynab 😌 and history is written by conquerers so we'd say whatever we want since we conquered y'all back then once and once more at this very moment. both times without any resistance y'all welcomed us with open arms 😌
@@Mesopotamian You bring me one girl or woman named Anahita in the whole Arab population of the world and I'll say your arguement is fair. But you hadn't heard or knew that name existed until right now.
I'm from one of those shitty countries. The chance of a female from these regions listening to this style of music is close to zero let alone playing it.
Even as a female, I agree. I'm from Pakistan, and I've never met another female who likes metal in the real life. In underground concerts, there's nobody in restroom for females except me 😅 But I've met a female metalhead who's from Iran on discord. She has been trying to playing black metal music. Unfortunately, she had very limited resources and strict parents who actually broke her bass guitar.
@@morbidgirl6808 Having limited resources is the most problematic issue even more so than having stupid brainwashed parents. Instruments cost an arm and a leg with this collapsed economy of ours. It took me three fucking years to save money for a low end Schecter.
@@mithgaur7419 Definitely! Limited resources can make it hard for you to get a guitar. It requires years of hard work of collecting money. These days, part-time jobs are usually taken by "low-class citizens." That's why lots of young people (from middleclass or upperclass) have high unemployment rate due to the insecurity of taking such jobs. They try other ways to collect money. It's so problematic. "Strict parents" can be resolved easily unless if you're not an adult yet.
Why are we criticizing Anti-Islamic Black Metal when the entire history of Black Metal is being anti Christianity? This isn't god damn about racism, I am an anti Muslim ex-Muslim, and im grateful finally I can listen to Black Metal that targets the religion I hate
hatred presented you gave to Islam will presented by someone who doesn't understand Islam or someone whose mind has been manipulated...Anyone who knows the truth of Islam will love it and embrace it...Don't believe the image they give you of islam...and I don't think that stupide black metal band really understands what Islam is Man...I really hate all songs that are hostile to any religion because I respect all religions and this is what every person should do...and your hatred for Islam shows your understanding of Islam is nothing
Your hatred of Islam means that you didn’t understand Islam (it was portrayed to you as the media wants in a horrible way) or that you couldn’t give enough effort to know what Islam prevents (everything that Islam prevents is hurts you in one way or another)... Islam is a religion of tolerance cleanliness and a logical religion Your hatred for it means that the defect in you fix yourself bro be a better person (:
I really enjoy this one. It’s great that it’s being talked one of the bands that came around was called Halla from Iran. And it explains a lot. But many bands from Iran, Iraq had either stopped altogether or fled the country to avoid possible execution. My whole family is from Iran and I was born here so I know what goes on over there.
Islam in Iran is "شيعي"...so I don’t think you understand what Islam really is..."الشيعة"(they were not in the era of Muhammad)... So don'te talk about Islam while you are not "سني"
Saying "Allah is dead", in the same sense that saying "God is dead", could have a multitude of underlying meanings. It is also hardly analogous to expressing that "Jesus Christ is dead", in that Jesus Christ was, purportedly, a person who could die. Saying that Allah, God (the Father), Ain-Soph, Bene-Elohim, or whatever, which is supposed to represent the oneness of being, completeness, or totality of existence, being, in essence, negated, the very idea of which is putatively, in the eyes of Abrahamists, to render the impossible possible. The ultimate desecration. The phrase "Allah is dead", could, conversely, mean that the original, pagan purpose of the word designation of Allah, the one or the unknown god, represented by a stone (the Kaaba), which, according to track 5 of "Morbid Mohammad" has been subverted or corrupted by Islam. The stone, once white, is now tainted by blood. Black. At least, that is my interpretation. I think a better approach to determining the legitimacy of this band would be to have a native Arabic speaker analyze the Arabic passages of the lyrical content to determine whether they sound authentic/coherent or just like the usual Google translate drivel. There are also many Arabic audio samples throughout Seeds of Iblis' music. Some of them sound arcane and specific enough that, perhaps, only someone residing in or around the region from whence they originated would have knowledge of or access to them. Determining to whom these audio samples belong would be a pretty safe bet. If it just so happens that these audio samples are from, say, an imam operating in the Netherlands or the UK, then it is likely that these musicians are from somewhere in the West. And, yes, I am aware that this is the Internet and everyone has access to pretty much everything, so I admit that this is hardly conclusive. And I couldn't agree more that Seeds of Iblis' music is pretty enjoyable. Not anything groundbreaking or spectacular, but if the claims of their origins have any veracity to them, then much respect is deserved. Also, Nuclear Hammer. Great band. Love that album.
native arabic speaker here,…. the prayer passages sampled have nothing to do with the meaning or title of the song. for example in “islamophobia” there is a sample playing of a prayer for well being lol. the whole thing is just cringe theatrics with no substance
@@genghisghost the whole point is anti islam.. guess we cuz they sampled a prayer about well-being don't mean they dont have any substance.. sura 9 explains the whole album really.
here's a much quicker way to determine it all. listen to the scream vox and pair them to with the lyrics. now pay attention: does it remotely sound like the way the words are pronounced are with an Iraqi accent ? if not then well there you go 😅
On the "Allah is dead" lyric: couldn't it just be a play on the extremely common Nietzschean "God is dead"? That doesn't seem farfetched at all. It's not speaking about a literal death
Exactly I kinda felt like face palming after that take. Not every Lyric is meant to be taken too litteral, there might be more to it then what meets the eye.
Great observation about the timeline of the mentioned bands and the reasons behind the long hiatus. I think I can add a little bit of prospective to the story. See, the middle eastern metal scene had a huge boom around the late 2010s mainly due to the internet being faster and more affordable there. Instruments were also affordable and computers got so good that you could do a whole decent sounding album from home. If you look at syrian metal bands for example, you’ll notice a big influx of albums in that time window. Now the hiatus, you are not far off on why bands seized to make music. It wasn’t only ISIS but also the civil war(s) really picked off and intensified. Making music wasn’t feasible and stopped being a priority. Now that a lot of said musicians might have immigrated elsewhere, you’ll begin to see a gradual return of middle eastern bands (or so I hope at least). Great video!
I think Seeds of Iblis, and its related acts by extension, definitely bend the truth about their origins. Maybe they did it to generate buzz and get people talking. Maybe they did it for another reason. Not the first time a band has done something like that and it won't be the last. The music itself is decent, definitely worth checking out if you haven't heard it before, though if I wanted to listen to black metal from the Middle East they wouldn't be my first choice. That would go to a band like Al-Namrood or Akvan.
I like Al Namrood except the singer and his loud drunken like style. Seeds of Iblis is totally fucking awesome. Do you know how to get a physical copy of anything from Seeds?
I am Iraqi, and I've seen all the Arabic text that these bands demonstrate, EVERYONE CAN GET THE SAME FROM GOOGLE TRANSLATOR. Unless they use Iraqi words (yes Iraqi words are different than the words you get from Google Translate) or a voice release by them talking in the Iraqi dialect, I wouldn't believe that they're Iraqi.
Something I'd like to mention in regards to AlNamrood specifically, their earlier albums had very gritty and rough production, but then they began outsourcing the production of their later albums to Shaytan Productions, a Canadian indie label that specializes in production and distribution for underground middle eastern bands.
As an ex fundamentalist christian, and black metal head, I support you. It's all basically the same bullshit. Only in your countries, you can be killed for telling the truth. I have mad respect for all of you. Whether or not these specific bands are being honest, I know people who are done with religious oppression exist in places like that. It's easy as fuck to be edgy and say anti religious shit in the west, nobody really cares, much less will kill you. You have balls of titanium. Keep fighting the fight.💪🤘
lol you wont be killed for speaking out against christianity but islam ya you can get killed even if your in our own countries. need more anti islam BM
Ey man I'm not very much into the video cause I'm drunk as hell but just want to tell you that you are my favourite you tuber cuz you remind me to the old youtube man, just a person with passion and a camera, hope everything goes well in your life and youtube career
I literally have heard none of this before. But from what you describe, it sounds like what velvet cacoon did, and make up a bunch of stuff to generate hype, but I have no idea
Interesting video - good work fella. I also think the 'Allah is dead' lyric might be a riff on Nietzsche, or that the use of the word 'Allah' here is being deployed as a metaphor, or maybe as a symbol of Islam at large. Curious about the bogus photos though, maybe cameras are at a premium in 'Iraq'.
You can easily say that Allah is dead, in the same way as saying God is Dead, which means that the concept is dead. It has nothing to do with whether you understand Islam or not. God in Judaism or Christianity is not a created entity either and according to the doctrines cannot die, so alleging that since these bands proclaim that Allah is dead is not a demonstration about whether they are from an Islamic country or not. Regardless, the bands probably are still fake
I'm deeply impressed by the layers of self concealment protecting this project. Also, these are *exactly* the sort of role models we need for young women.
I know them since 2014. There was a website call arab anti islamic legions, now it is not working anymore, and I remember seeing 4 bands and some info(the fourth one was from Bahrain but dont remember the name). Also, i read in other web some years ago, the same you mean in this video, that janaza was an hoax. Besides the pictures you pointed out, other proof they said is that in one of janaza's front album cover, the writing is in persian (iran) instead arabic. Really strange for an arabic person, its diferent lenguage and writing. But i dont know if its true. Anyway, somehow, i find it quite exotic, i like the mix. Very different.
You should cover Al Namrood and Confess (Saudi arabian black metal band) and an Iranian metal band, I know you mentioned them but Namrood are a really interesting band because I distinctly remember hearing about them from local metal dudes back when i was living in Riyadh.
It's so annoying that this band was taken off Spotify for being "sketchy" or "racist" when it's just against Islam. As if Spotify doesn't have hundreds of anti Christian bands, peak favouritism.
the lyrical argument about the qur'an that you made is kind of flawed, the lyrics are sayign that Allah has been dead for centuries because he never existed, and was always in "Muhammed's head". The "dead" part of the lyrics are metaphorical.
I guess it’s how you view it If it’s looked at it the metaphorical way it works but in the theological way as I pointed it out it comes off like a lack of knowledge of youre criticizing it from within
even though according to the quran 'Allah' is a powerful entity or force it isn't strange or illogical to describe him as dead or alive since the quran already states that this entity has human feelings and adjectives like anger, satisfaction, grudge, wisdom etc...
Very interesting. Reminds me of Mulla, who claimed they were from Iraq but their Arabic lyrics are very broken and apparently they're from France? IDK, I haven't researched enough into the Mulla situation to know for sure, but that's what this whole situation you are talking about reminds me of.
The only thing i can say is that the claim to know Al-namrood, who i know because i did a video for them. Seeds of ibilis apperently claimed to know them, but Al namrood denies this. BTW i could ask if they want to do an interview with you? just let let me know and i will ask.
On the topic of the lyrics, and I know I’m 2 years late (2 years ago I wasn’t even listening to black metal but that’s besides the point lol), I interpreted “Allah is dead for centuries” to be both a play on the Nietzschean “God is dead” trope, and a reference to the idea that Allah was a figment of Mohammad’s imagination (“In Mohammad’s head he was born”) and therefore, with the prophet’s death, the God’s death, centuries ago.
Actually ISIS photo which represents in this video is not actually ISIS.They were another islamic terrorist gang from my country Srilanka which caused easter suicide bombings to the churches and to some to highclass hotels in 2019 and the person who is in middle was with a beard called Zaharan the leader of the gang actually we are not a muslim country either .well when i was posting some music from this band while ago one of my friends also told some facts like this too.i also dont think this band is from Iraq.
They still reside in Saudi Arabia, but production and distribution is outsourced through the label Shaytan Productions, which is based in Canada and works with various other middle eastern bands
The lyrics might reference Nietzsche. "Gott ist tot! Gott bleibt tot! Und wir haben ihn getötet!" (God is dead. God stays dead. And it's us who killed him.)
That Morbid Angel shirt is literally what made me stop wearing band shirts. SO stupid.. 1.) IF the band is from a Muslim country, they probably know more about Islam than our narrator does. 2.) They probably not from Iraq cos all the Arabic is actually Persian, including the Shirin Nesbit pic. I don't think that's Arabic script even. 3.) People who aren't in some way edgy or hateful are not black metal people. They just listen to shitty music.
Even if this band consists of people making records in Iraq, they're fraudulent. On Seeds of Iblis' record, 'Morbid Muhammad', they blatantly plagiarised Sielunvihollinen on the track 'Isra and Mi'raj'. The song is literally a jumble of slowed down segments from Sielunvihollinen's track 'Loputon viha' from their album 'Kuolonkylväjä'. One can even hear the garbled audio artifacts from the edited slow down. Total trash. Great video though, man.
im iraqi form Baghdad and the way they write the Arabic language is very similar to the Kuwaiti and Saudi dialects, so I do not think they are “Iraqis.”
Re: the lyrics for "Allah is dead": to say that "Allah" is dead is to say that Allah is a finite creature capable of death. But Allah is not considered thusly in Islam - as you say. However to say that it is otherwise is to limit Allah, i.e. blaspheme. Therefore, Allah is made an idea and idol. That is, not a God who necessarily exists (perhaps Islam considers God to be necessary). Hence, it is blasphemous. This is established with the lyric, 'In Mohammad's head he was born'. I am not familiar with Islamic theology - nor its faith in general. Perhaps, I am wrong. Thanks for the video, very cool.
Let me get this somehow to the point, i'm from egypt and i can guarantee you that such band would not be able to play or even record such hateful stuff towards the country's main religion (specially in iraq).
@@darkmisanthropy1169 actually i don't know none of these bands but what i know for sure is that both saudi arabia and iraq will not let these bands this kind of stuff
Al Namrood are definitely legit and there's a Fatwa on their head nobody knows their identity. I know people in Iran personaly who are creating such content and they'd be executed if the goverment finds out who they are but the point is that they don't know who they are and that's called the underground my friend.
The whole narrative that they're trying to go as lowkey as possible only to comeback and brag about them being from Iraq and not only that, but limit the scoop on the city where they're from (Keep in mind the stories say there's almost 0 female metalheads there) seems so off to me .. That said, about 10 years ago, i tried to contact the so called Female front woman of Seeds of ibliss and janaza, but i was left on seen About a week ago, i was listening to Immortal's song At the heart of winter 0:40) and i came to realize that it sounds almost identical to a part in Janaza's Burn the pages of Quran (1:02) same arpeggios And i think as the years go on and on, we're going to find out more shit that is wrong in the story of this girl ! This part 1:00 sounds Exactly like the story of Nietzsche and how he lost his family members and so he said his famous words (God is dead) lol
It's more likely that they are Arabs and ex Muslims from North Africa that either moved to Europe or was born there. No way they could record their albums where they are allegedly from...
Great video. As for the lyrics, I think you just misinterpreted it. They are basically saying "(the whole concept of) Allah is dead for centuries". That is to say it never really existed because it was "born in mohammad's head". Simply put : Mohammad invented the whole story , which would then eventually give birth to the whole islamic religion.
13:30 why do you say ""Emotional speculation"" you really made your point on pretty good logical conclusions AND acknowledge your own bias bias.... it sounds pretty rational to me as an argument. like, bro you're ALLOWED to speculate if you got facts. luv ya. Dad. ∠( ᐛ 」∠)＿
Dude it's 3 am I'm shitting myself . But as I live in Iran and I know what's going on here. I get it why these bands exist . Can't talk more here cuz my life would be in danger (no lie)
6:58 i cringe at that part first allah is always called "he" in the quran and litterally behaves like an human like gets angry and stuff yes allah cant die according to islam because he is all powerful but what seeds of iblis or other islam critics state is muhammad is dead who is allah because allah always was muhammad's alter ego and muhammad as you can guess is dead keep up your videos research you put into them is amazing
alter ego ?, no. allah is the creator, ( لَمْ يَلِد وَلَم يولَد ) meaning he's the one who did not give birth to anyone, and no one gave birth to him, has no son and no father. because nothing is born except that it will die, and nothing dies except that it will inherit, and allah neither dies nor leaves an inheritance. unlike the christian supreme deity, allah cannot be considered as a “the father” or any annexed names or figures, because he is above all other beings. ( و لَم يَكُن لَهُ كُفوًّا أحَد ) meaning there's no one equal to him, and there is 'nothing' like him. On the other hand, muhammad is an actual person that lived and died. In Islam, he is a prophet, messenger. and he's the last prophet. he received visions (known as آيات ) from Allah or from the angel gabriel. many non-muslims confuse allah and muhammad due to their prominence in the Islamic faith. non-Muslims assume that the two figures have the same station and receive the same treatment. according to the Islamic teachings and traditions, allah must be worshiped as the one and true God. On the other hand, muhammad, as allah’s prophet, requires the highest respect and honor. i still can't understand the "alter ego" thingy. also 'he' in the arabic language can be used on males, the anonymous, animals, and objects too.
@@eyesofhourisلا تفكر انك تتناقش معهم اسمع الميتال من ١٧ سنه العينات ذي تافهه لا ينفع الجدال معهم ، اذا تجادلت معهم اقدر انهي الحادهم في دقايق ناس ضعيفه في الواقع ما يسوون ولا شي بس كلام
anyway I think that the owner of the channel is a hater of Islam because he only likes comments that promote hatred towards Islam...This is really funny 😂😂😂...your discussion of a topic that you don't understand anything about...putting a stupid band as a topic of discussion and their songs that are hostile to the beliefs of other...I don't think that this is even worth discussing...but It's okay for you to be hostile to Islam...makes me sure that I follow the correct belief...Continue your hatred...We will continue to strengthen our Trust in allah
Fake, their was an article showing email IP address of supposed members traced back to Scandinavian country, i believe was sweden. That and the pics being blatantly fake. 😂🤷🏼♂️
Yeah no way in hell this band is actually from Iraq. Big part of this that I don't think you mentioned... literally everything they do is in English. Lyrics are all in English. Promotional stuff, descriptions etc are all in English. Interview responses seem like they come from a native English speaker. Only thing in Arabic is the occasional samples. If the point is to be blasphemous within the Islamic world, why is every song in English despite being in a region with very low English proficiency? The other Middle Eastern black metal projects I'm familiar with (Narjahanam and Al-Namrood) have most of their work in Arabic. That's not to say non-western bands mustn't do English lyrics. But something doesn't sit right about it when it's literally 100%, especially with the context of the project being a vitriolic response to their surrounding world. Can't find anything about them marketing toward Iraqi/middle-eastern metal scenes either. The project just screams it being an American/European person pulling a gimmick to market toward western audiences and capitalize on Islamophobia.
that is a good point but the only reason why I didnt criticize that about them is cause a lot of the bands from Iraq and Iran are also done in the English language (band names, lyrics and song titles) that I saw on the metal archives .
Eeerrmmm are you suggesting that people in the middle east don't know English? So Mayhem is not Norwegian cause everything they do is in English? Or Kreator not from Germany? English gets you worldwide audience that's the point of using it.
@@ashkanamirian3574 yes but middle eastern countries specifically have really low english proficiency. it's just not taught there much. many european countries (especially germanic countries) have people proficient by the end of high school. yes it gets a worldwide audience, but that's kind of my point here. it's music meant to be blasphemous to their surroundings yet it's built for westerners? it's just a little weird combined with all the other weirdness.
@@rupaulver8578 Sorry to say that's quite ignorant of you. Bet you haven't been outside the hometown much. There's plenty of English going around in the middle east specially Iran where it's taught in school.
@@ashkanamirian3574 There's literally a world English Proficiency Index where the Middle East ranks as the lowest region in English proficiency, with Iraq being the lowest. I didn't just spout that out of ignorance. It's not that they're dumb or don't have any English speakers, it's just not something commonly learned there.
When music became as an escape to show expression.....let alone black metal gimmick overhyped with anti this anti that and want to look patheticly evil...yawn boring.....they are just amateur musician that creating pure stupid noise and for the sake of gaining attention and fame.....!!!!!!!!!!!
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These people are very strong and interesting, it's about the music and what it means not about who they are. Salute from an Ex-Muslim
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Hello ex-Muslim. I would just like to say that I am a metalhead that enjoys such music but it upsets me that such good music is anti-religion or bands also like damaar (دمار) it’s so upsetting they used Quran in their music and since I respect my religion I choose not to listen to it. I would like to ask, why did you leave Islam?
@@severedfingers My guess, just like all ex-Muslims and unlike ex-Christians, they don't leave over logic and nonsensical concepts (such as the trinity fallacy), but because of being brutalized by barbarous ethnic cultures which claim to represent a universal faith (Pakistani, Afghani, etc).
@@severedfingers السلام عليكم عربي اخوي ؟ انا اسمع الميتال من حوالي ١٧ سنه والعينات هاذي موجوده من زمان اغلبهم تتجادل معهم وتطلع اسباب الحادهم ضعيفه جداً ودايماً انا واصدقائي ننسف الحادهم في دقايق اسبابهم تافه ومضيعه للوقت اغلبهم الحدو بسبب الاغاني اثرت وتحكمت فيهم هذول ضعاف جداً ، ولا الي يجيك مسوي فيها عابد لابليس هذا شخص اضعف واضعف تافهين والله العظيم
It reminds me of when Blackgaze band Ghost Bath claimed to be from China, with the exception that when they got exposed they laughed it up.
The guy behind Ghost Bath created a even bigger bullshit back story for his vapor wave project. He claimed to be from Kazakhstan, wrote edgy Tumblr poetry in Chinese and hinted he was in a mental hospital in Georgia, lol.
Dude seems to have a problem just being Bill from Minnesota.
@@error4159 LMAO. I did not knew that.
yeah goatbath is not a good band
Ghost Bath isn't "blackgaze" they're post-DSBM
Yeah but I think their was a reason for Seeds, Ghost Bath is just bullshit. Horrible this band is getting on big tours what is wrong with people?
Anahita is a Persian name therefore Iranian. The artwork on the album is from an Iranian artist Shirin Neshat. And Iblis is a diety from Zoroasthrianism which is Iran's pre Islam religion. It all points to Iran which is Persian and has nothing to do with Iraq Which is Arab.
Edit: They might be Iranian and saying they're Iraqi to mislead anyone who might find out who they are cause they'd be certainly executed in Iran if they're discovered. There's a shitload of women named Anahita in Iran but I doubt that there's any with that name in Iraq cause it's 100% a Persian name not Arabic.
absolutely this^ with the islamic dictatorship, shitting on Islam is pretty much asking for an execution
In 5:02
They wrote they are from fu(king Iraq, then wrote they are from great/absolute Baghdad .
Another thing was the word حنا which it is misspelled "we" in the Baghdadi accent (but used in other areas in Iraq in this way).
So I see this ensures your POV
@@Mesopotamian First of all you're Arab not Assyrian so don't be trying to steal their culture like y'all did with their land. Arabic stole the word Iblis from Persians, it's been used by Persians in written accounts way before there was any Arabic in written language at all. The girl's name is Anahita a Perisan name of the water Godess in Zoroastrianism it's not Zahra or Zeynab 😌 and history is written by conquerers so we'd say whatever we want since we conquered y'all back then once and once more at this very moment. both times without any resistance y'all welcomed us with open arms 😌
@@Mesopotamian You bring me one girl or woman named Anahita in the whole Arab population of the world and I'll say your arguement is fair. But you hadn't heard or knew that name existed until right now.
@@mustafam.leathercoatv.2514 Iraq is ours anyway and you know it. America gifted it to us.
I'm from one of those shitty countries. The chance of a female from these regions listening to this style of music is close to zero let alone playing it.
Shitty country lol your are on the curbs
Even as a female, I agree. I'm from Pakistan, and I've never met another female who likes metal in the real life. In underground concerts, there's nobody in restroom for females except me 😅 But I've met a female metalhead who's from Iran on discord. She has been trying to playing black metal music. Unfortunately, she had very limited resources and strict parents who actually broke her bass guitar.
@@morbidgirl6808 Having limited resources is the most problematic issue even more so than having stupid brainwashed parents. Instruments cost an arm and a leg with this collapsed economy of ours. It took me three fucking years to save money for a low end Schecter.
@@mithgaur7419 Definitely! Limited resources can make it hard for you to get a guitar. It requires years of hard work of collecting money. These days, part-time jobs are usually taken by "low-class citizens." That's why lots of young people (from middleclass or upperclass) have high unemployment rate due to the insecurity of taking such jobs. They try other ways to collect money. It's so problematic. "Strict parents" can be resolved easily unless if you're not an adult yet.
@@morbidgirl6808 You are absolutely right. As a fellow third world blacker you have a good insight into our problems. Kudos to you comrade.
Why are we criticizing Anti-Islamic Black Metal when the entire history of Black Metal is being anti Christianity? This isn't god damn about racism, I am an anti Muslim ex-Muslim, and im grateful finally I can listen to Black Metal that targets the religion I hate
Lost your faith bro?
@@Nugtroen I wasn't ever born with one. Other people prescribed it to me, but it never belonged to me.
hatred presented you gave to Islam will presented by someone who doesn't understand Islam or someone whose mind has been manipulated...Anyone who knows the truth of Islam will love it and embrace it...Don't believe the image they give you of islam...and I don't think that stupide black metal band really understands what Islam is
Man...I really hate all songs that are hostile to any religion because I respect all religions and this is what every person should do...and your hatred for Islam shows your understanding of Islam is nothing
Same I'm exmuslim aswell
Your hatred of Islam means that you didn’t understand Islam (it was portrayed to you as the media wants in a horrible way) or that you couldn’t give enough effort to know what Islam prevents (everything that Islam prevents is hurts you in one way or another)... Islam is a religion of tolerance cleanliness and a logical religion Your hatred for it means that the defect in you fix yourself bro be a better person (:
I really enjoy this one. It’s great that it’s being talked one of the bands that came around was called Halla from Iran. And it explains a lot. But many bands from Iran, Iraq had either stopped altogether or fled the country to avoid possible execution. My whole family is from Iran and I was born here so I know what goes on over there.
Interesting
Islam in Iran is "شيعي"...so I don’t think you understand what Islam really is..."الشيعة"(they were not in the era of Muhammad)... So don'te talk about Islam while you are not "سني"
Saying "Allah is dead", in the same sense that saying "God is dead", could have a multitude of underlying meanings. It is also hardly analogous to expressing that "Jesus Christ is dead", in that Jesus Christ was, purportedly, a person who could die. Saying that Allah, God (the Father), Ain-Soph, Bene-Elohim, or whatever, which is supposed to represent the oneness of being, completeness, or totality of existence, being, in essence, negated, the very idea of which is putatively, in the eyes of Abrahamists, to render the impossible possible. The ultimate desecration. The phrase "Allah is dead", could, conversely, mean that the original, pagan purpose of the word designation of Allah, the one or the unknown god, represented by a stone (the Kaaba), which, according to track 5 of "Morbid Mohammad" has been subverted or corrupted by Islam. The stone, once white, is now tainted by blood. Black. At least, that is my interpretation.
I think a better approach to determining the legitimacy of this band would be to have a native Arabic speaker analyze the Arabic passages of the lyrical content to determine whether they sound authentic/coherent or just like the usual Google translate drivel. There are also many Arabic audio samples throughout Seeds of Iblis' music. Some of them sound arcane and specific enough that, perhaps, only someone residing in or around the region from whence they originated would have knowledge of or access to them. Determining to whom these audio samples belong would be a pretty safe bet. If it just so happens that these audio samples are from, say, an imam operating in the Netherlands or the UK, then it is likely that these musicians are from somewhere in the West. And, yes, I am aware that this is the Internet and everyone has access to pretty much everything, so I admit that this is hardly conclusive.
And I couldn't agree more that Seeds of Iblis' music is pretty enjoyable. Not anything groundbreaking or spectacular, but if the claims of their origins have any veracity to them, then much respect is deserved.
Also, Nuclear Hammer. Great band. Love that album.
Then again, this could all be one massive Iranian psyop to dunk on their Sunni neighbors. Who knows. Get better opsec, Ayatollah
native arabic speaker here,…. the prayer passages sampled have nothing to do with the meaning or title of the song. for example in “islamophobia” there is a sample playing of a prayer for well being lol. the whole thing is just cringe theatrics with no substance
@@genghisghost the whole point is anti islam.. guess we cuz they sampled a prayer about well-being don't mean they dont have any substance.. sura 9 explains the whole album really.
@@belladonna4666 it explains nothing really and i have no problem with islamophobia
here's a much quicker way to determine it all.
listen to the scream vox and pair them to with the lyrics. now pay attention: does it remotely sound like the way the words are pronounced are with an Iraqi accent ?
if not then well there you go 😅
On the "Allah is dead" lyric: couldn't it just be a play on the extremely common Nietzschean "God is dead"? That doesn't seem farfetched at all. It's not speaking about a literal death
Exactly I kinda felt like face palming after that take. Not every Lyric is meant to be taken too litteral, there might be more to it then what meets the eye.
@@bruh......2005well ye... That and Allah hasn't done anything to help his people.
Great observation about the timeline of the mentioned bands and the reasons behind the long hiatus. I think I can add a little bit of prospective to the story. See, the middle eastern metal scene had a huge boom around the late 2010s mainly due to the internet being faster and more affordable there. Instruments were also affordable and computers got so good that you could do a whole decent sounding album from home. If you look at syrian metal bands for example, you’ll notice a big influx of albums in that time window.
Now the hiatus, you are not far off on why bands seized to make music. It wasn’t only ISIS but also the civil war(s) really picked off and intensified. Making music wasn’t feasible and stopped being a priority. Now that a lot of said musicians might have immigrated elsewhere, you’ll begin to see a gradual return of middle eastern bands (or so I hope at least).
Great video!
I think Seeds of Iblis, and its related acts by extension, definitely bend the truth about their origins. Maybe they did it to generate buzz and get people talking. Maybe they did it for another reason. Not the first time a band has done something like that and it won't be the last. The music itself is decent, definitely worth checking out if you haven't heard it before, though if I wanted to listen to black metal from the Middle East they wouldn't be my first choice. That would go to a band like Al-Namrood or Akvan.
I like Al Namrood except the singer and his loud drunken like style. Seeds of Iblis is totally fucking awesome. Do you know how to get a physical copy of anything from Seeds?
I am Iraqi, and I've seen all the Arabic text that these bands demonstrate, EVERYONE CAN GET THE SAME FROM GOOGLE TRANSLATOR. Unless they use Iraqi words (yes Iraqi words are different than the words you get from Google Translate) or a voice release by them talking in the Iraqi dialect, I wouldn't believe that they're Iraqi.
Something I'd like to mention in regards to AlNamrood specifically, their earlier albums had very gritty and rough production, but then they began outsourcing the production of their later albums to Shaytan Productions, a Canadian indie label that specializes in production and distribution for underground middle eastern bands.
even still for what its worth it sounds (production wise) really good and passable.
@@wyattxhim Yeah, agreed. I like that despite the production being cleaner, they still manage to retain a fair amount of grit regardless.
Can anyone help me get into the Illuminati Order? I find it very interesting. Thanks.
@@blancani7v723 jesse what the fuck are you talking about
The Middle Eastern black metal scene is quite an interesting phenomenon.
I advise you to listen to the Iranian group Ātesh
I love that you still put links in the description to the bands
Love the Funebrarum shirt too.
The whole "Allah is dead" thing sounds like it's trying to play off of the "God is Dead" statement.
Damn, you got there before me. The Nietzchean perspective was my first thought too.
Thought the same thing
Especially cos it also talks about how a religious leader hates the world seems a lot like the whole song is a nitzschean reference
By the way, and you probably know this, but the woman on the album cover is an Iranian (not Iraqi) artist called Shirin Neshat
Thank you for pointing that out
As an ex fundamentalist christian, and black metal head, I support you. It's all basically the same bullshit. Only in your countries, you can be killed for telling the truth. I have mad respect for all of you. Whether or not these specific bands are being honest, I know people who are done with religious oppression exist in places like that. It's easy as fuck to be edgy and say anti religious shit in the west, nobody really cares, much less will kill you. You have balls of titanium. Keep fighting the fight.💪🤘
lol you wont be killed for speaking out against christianity but islam ya you can get killed even if your in our own countries. need more anti islam BM
Dude.. im so glad i watched this they make such good music. ive never made a face like i did when i listened to all the albums.
Ey man I'm not very much into the video cause I'm drunk as hell but just want to tell you that you are my favourite you tuber cuz you remind me to the old youtube man, just a person with passion and a camera, hope everything goes well in your life and youtube career
I literally have heard none of this before. But from what you describe, it sounds like what velvet cacoon did, and make up a bunch of stuff to generate hype, but I have no idea
I remember Velvet cacoon lol. I haven't heard that name in years.
Great band. I forgot they had a gimmick. Weren't they supposed ecoterrorists?
Interesting video - good work fella. I also think the 'Allah is dead' lyric might be a riff on Nietzsche, or that the use of the word 'Allah' here is being deployed as a metaphor, or maybe as a symbol of Islam at large. Curious about the bogus photos though, maybe cameras are at a premium in 'Iraq'.
You can easily say that Allah is dead, in the same way as saying God is Dead, which means that the concept is dead. It has nothing to do with whether you understand Islam or not. God in Judaism or Christianity is not a created entity either and according to the doctrines cannot die, so alleging that since these bands proclaim that Allah is dead is not a demonstration about whether they are from an Islamic country or not. Regardless, the bands probably are still fake
I'm deeply impressed by the layers of self concealment protecting this project. Also, these are *exactly* the sort of role models we need for young women.
I know them since 2014. There was a website call arab anti islamic legions, now it is not working anymore, and I remember seeing 4 bands and some info(the fourth one was from Bahrain but dont remember the name). Also, i read in other web some years ago, the same you mean in this video, that janaza was an hoax. Besides the pictures you pointed out, other proof they said is that in one of janaza's front album cover, the writing is in persian (iran) instead arabic. Really strange for an arabic person, its diferent lenguage and writing. But i dont know if its true.
Anyway, somehow, i find it quite exotic, i like the mix. Very different.
Man you've always got stuff from the back of mind. Great video. Tbh, I always thought they were fake and was just some edge lord yank
Wyatt as you get older you look more like Brandon Herrera, “The AK Guy”. From 33rpm to 7.62, crossover vid needed stat!
I have their album. It’s okay, just a little much treble and twangy. I like Al Namrood more.
Also check Akvan, its a solo project from Iran and its really cool, its more black/folk with lyrics based on Persian Mythology and Zoroatrianism.
You should cover Al Namrood and Confess (Saudi arabian black metal band) and an Iranian metal band, I know you mentioned them but Namrood are a really interesting band because I distinctly remember hearing about them from local metal dudes back when i was living in Riyadh.
More videos like this please. Just you talking about topics and doing deep dives. Maybe deathspell omega lyric meanings?
It's so annoying that this band was taken off Spotify for being "sketchy" or "racist" when it's just against Islam. As if Spotify doesn't have hundreds of anti Christian bands, peak favouritism.
Only clicked the link due to owning that same shirt. Glad I found this video/page.
the lyrical argument about the qur'an that you made is kind of flawed, the lyrics are sayign that Allah has been dead for centuries because he never existed, and was always in "Muhammed's head". The "dead" part of the lyrics are metaphorical.
I guess it’s how you view it
If it’s looked at it the metaphorical way it works but in the theological way as I pointed it out it comes off like a lack of knowledge of youre criticizing it from within
@@wyattxhim I think the lyrics refer to the fact that man created religion and thus god, not vice versa.
even though according to the quran 'Allah' is a powerful entity or force it isn't strange or illogical to describe him as dead or alive since the quran already states that this entity has human feelings and adjectives like anger, satisfaction, grudge, wisdom etc...
Personally I could care less where a band is from, make good music and I'll buy it that simple
Very interesting. Reminds me of Mulla, who claimed they were from Iraq but their Arabic lyrics are very broken and apparently they're from France? IDK, I haven't researched enough into the Mulla situation to know for sure, but that's what this whole situation you are talking about reminds me of.
Yeah but how about a review of the new KPN? 👉🏼👈🏻
"wow Kim Kelly messed up" ruthless
Ayat is another middle eastern black metal band that has huge gaps in their discography
Ayat rules !
Hey what band shirt is that I love the😍 logo.
Funebrarum
@@wyattxhim thanks you gonna review the new peste noire bte
Excellent video. Very insightful.
The only thing i can say is that the claim to know Al-namrood, who i know because i did a video for them.
Seeds of ibilis apperently claimed to know them, but Al namrood denies this.
BTW i could ask if they want to do an interview with you? just let let me know and i will ask.
GO OFF QUEEN‼️‼️
Can anyone tell me what the album closest to the record player is (the one with the spacey cover)?
Nuclearhammer
Anyone who listens to Nuclearhammer has high taste in music!
also where can i get there records ?
Wasn't Silver look for this in Sonic 06?
Lmfao it took a minute to realize what you meant
@@wyattxhim I haven't played the game in years but the name of the video triggered that memory.
Best band ever
Great video as allways 😀😀😀
I’m a bit sketchy about the genuine and authenticity of the band. I think about how much effort it take to fake a project like this.
On the topic of the lyrics, and I know I’m 2 years late (2 years ago I wasn’t even listening to black metal but that’s besides the point lol), I interpreted “Allah is dead for centuries” to be both a play on the Nietzschean “God is dead” trope, and a reference to the idea that Allah was a figment of Mohammad’s imagination (“In Mohammad’s head he was born”) and therefore, with the prophet’s death, the God’s death, centuries ago.
Anahita, sounds kurdish,, with persian poetry on cover ... doesn't sound Arabic at all ... sounds iranian
Well done.
7:25
I live in Iraq and a lot of Iraqi Muslims don't know shit about their own religion
Now we have Mulla and Ātesh pulling the same kind of gimmicks, things never change
Actually ISIS photo which represents in this video is not actually ISIS.They were another islamic terrorist gang from my country Srilanka which caused easter suicide bombings to the churches and to some to highclass hotels in 2019 and the person who is in middle was with a beard called Zaharan the leader of the gang actually we are not a muslim country either .well when i was posting some music from this band while ago one of my friends also told some facts like this too.i also dont think this band is from Iraq.
Do you have some interesting metal bands in your country?
Didn't expect a video on this band love anti Islamic Black metal
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I like Al-Namrood, but I think they have relocated to Canada (?) quite early in their „career“?
They still reside in Saudi Arabia, but production and distribution is outsourced through the label Shaytan Productions, which is based in Canada and works with various other middle eastern bands
The lyrics might reference Nietzsche.
"Gott ist tot! Gott bleibt tot! Und wir haben ihn getötet!"
(God is dead. God stays dead. And it's us who killed him.)
I thought I read somewhere Janaza relocated to France?
Marid. True Saharan Black Metal. Ask anyone who actually speaks Arabic.
That Morbid Angel shirt is literally what made me stop wearing band shirts. SO stupid..
1.) IF the band is from a Muslim country, they probably know more about Islam than our narrator does.
2.) They probably not from Iraq cos all the Arabic is actually Persian, including the Shirin Nesbit pic. I don't think that's Arabic script even.
3.) People who aren't in some way edgy or hateful are not black metal people. They just listen to shitty music.
It would be such a major insult to Islam if Seeds of Iblis was legit. A woman spitting in Allah's face with impunity.
Are you sure about that ? 🤣
The lyrics say "Allah is dead" in the same metaphorical sense that Nietzsche said "God is dead".
Even if this band consists of people making records in Iraq, they're fraudulent. On Seeds of Iblis' record, 'Morbid Muhammad', they blatantly plagiarised Sielunvihollinen on the track 'Isra and Mi'raj'. The song is literally a jumble of slowed down segments from Sielunvihollinen's track 'Loputon viha' from their album 'Kuolonkylväjä'. One can even hear the garbled audio artifacts from the edited slow down. Total trash. Great video though, man.
ulluh is finite being
"He was born/Allah is dead" It's a literary technique.
im iraqi form Baghdad and the way they write the Arabic language is very similar to the Kuwaiti and Saudi dialects, so I do not think they are “Iraqis.”
Re: the lyrics for "Allah is dead": to say that "Allah" is dead is to say that Allah is a finite creature capable of death. But Allah is not considered thusly in Islam - as you say. However to say that it is otherwise is to limit Allah, i.e. blaspheme. Therefore, Allah is made an idea and idol. That is, not a God who necessarily exists (perhaps Islam considers God to be necessary). Hence, it is blasphemous. This is established with the lyric, 'In Mohammad's head he was born'. I am not familiar with Islamic theology - nor its faith in general. Perhaps, I am wrong.
Thanks for the video, very cool.
Let me get this somehow to the point, i'm from egypt and i can guarantee you that such band would not be able to play or even record such hateful stuff towards the country's main religion (specially in iraq).
What about Al namrood?
@@darkmisanthropy1169 actually i don't know none of these bands but what i know for sure is that both saudi arabia and iraq will not let these bands this kind of stuff
@@ragyragheb That's why they're anonymous.
Al Namrood are definitely legit and there's a Fatwa on their head nobody knows their identity. I know people in Iran personaly who are creating such content and they'd be executed if the goverment finds out who they are but the point is that they don't know who they are and that's called the underground my friend.
blasphemy is iraq isn't as punishable as in iran or saudi, it's common for people to blaspheme on the streets
It's pronounced as [ɪˈɹæk], because it's closer to how the name of the country Iraq is pronounced in Arabic
The whole narrative that they're trying to go as lowkey as possible only to comeback and brag about them being from Iraq and not only that, but limit the scoop on the city where they're from (Keep in mind the stories say there's almost 0 female metalheads there) seems so off to me ..
That said, about 10 years ago, i tried to contact the so called Female front woman of Seeds of ibliss and janaza, but i was left on seen
About a week ago, i was listening to Immortal's song At the heart of winter 0:40) and i came to realize that it sounds almost identical to a part in Janaza's Burn the pages of Quran (1:02) same arpeggios
And i think as the years go on and on, we're going to find out more shit that is wrong in the story of this girl !
This part 1:00 sounds Exactly like the story of Nietzsche and how he lost his family members and so he said his famous words (God is dead) lol
Gimmick.
bruh theyre actually from iraq lol and they make underground concerts, my friend went to there and they didnt allow phones
It's more likely that they are Arabs and ex Muslims from North Africa that either moved to Europe or was born there. No way they could record their albums where they are allegedly from...
"disingenuine" is NOT a word 😂😂
Welcome to my channel
@@wyattxhim 😂😂😂💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
broski I think they mean allah is dead in the same way nietzsche said god is dead, like I feel like it isn't meant to be taken literally
Ex muslim here, and F islam
How many rakaats in wudhu then?
@@narahiko2007 Just 2
@@steventrump7144 its 0 dude
@@narahiko2007 Ok, then it's nil, thanks!
> Kim Kelly
Oh look the infamously annoying "Black metal is full of nazis" reporter.
How has she not been fired
Seeds Of Iblis is a PsyOp. And it´s not even hard to figure out by whom.
Great video. As for the lyrics, I think you just misinterpreted it. They are basically saying "(the whole concept of) Allah is dead for centuries". That is to say it never really existed because it was "born in mohammad's head". Simply put : Mohammad invented the whole story , which would then eventually give birth to the whole islamic religion.
Nah.. they're from west living in suburbs pretending to be from Iraq
13:30 why do you say ""Emotional speculation"" you really made your point on pretty good logical conclusions AND acknowledge your own bias bias.... it sounds pretty rational to me as an argument.
like, bro you're ALLOWED to speculate if you got facts.
luv ya.
Dad.
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Sad that they steal riffs from other bands.
*i'm not fucking racist.....BUT*
Dude it's 3 am I'm shitting myself . But as I live in Iran and I know what's going on here. I get it why these bands exist . Can't talk more here cuz my life would be in danger (no lie)
Ohhh nnooo 😱😱😰😰
6:58 i cringe at that part first allah is always called "he" in the quran and litterally behaves like an human like gets angry and stuff yes allah cant die according to islam because he is all powerful but what seeds of iblis or other islam critics state is muhammad is dead who is allah because allah always was muhammad's alter ego and muhammad as you can guess is dead keep up your videos research you put into them is amazing
alter ego ?, no. allah is the creator, ( لَمْ يَلِد وَلَم يولَد ) meaning he's the one who did not give birth to anyone, and no one gave birth to him, has no son and no father. because nothing is born except that it will die, and nothing dies except that it will inherit, and allah neither dies nor leaves an inheritance. unlike the christian supreme deity, allah cannot be considered as a “the father” or any annexed names or figures, because he is above all other beings. ( و لَم يَكُن لَهُ كُفوًّا أحَد ) meaning there's no one equal to him, and there is 'nothing' like him. On the other hand, muhammad is an actual person that lived and died. In Islam, he is a prophet, messenger. and he's the last prophet. he received visions (known as آيات ) from Allah or from the angel gabriel. many non-muslims confuse allah and muhammad due to their prominence in the Islamic faith. non-Muslims assume that the two figures have the same station and receive the same treatment. according to the Islamic teachings and traditions, allah must be worshiped as the one and true God. On the other hand, muhammad, as allah’s prophet, requires the highest respect and honor. i still can't understand the "alter ego" thingy.
also 'he' in the arabic language can be used on males, the anonymous, animals, and objects too.
@@eyesofhourisلا تفكر انك تتناقش معهم اسمع الميتال من ١٧ سنه العينات ذي تافهه لا ينفع الجدال معهم ، اذا تجادلت معهم اقدر انهي الحادهم في دقايق ناس ضعيفه في الواقع ما يسوون ولا شي بس كلام
anyway I think that the owner of the channel is a hater of Islam because he only likes comments that promote hatred towards Islam...This is really funny 😂😂😂...your discussion of a topic that you don't understand anything about...putting a stupid band as a topic of discussion and their songs that are hostile to the beliefs of other...I don't think that this is even worth discussing...but It's okay for you to be hostile to Islam...makes me sure that I follow the correct belief...Continue your hatred...We will continue to strengthen our Trust in allah
Fake, their was an article showing email IP address of supposed members traced back to Scandinavian country, i believe was sweden.
That and the pics being blatantly fake. 😂🤷🏼♂️
Yeah no way in hell this band is actually from Iraq. Big part of this that I don't think you mentioned... literally everything they do is in English. Lyrics are all in English. Promotional stuff, descriptions etc are all in English. Interview responses seem like they come from a native English speaker. Only thing in Arabic is the occasional samples. If the point is to be blasphemous within the Islamic world, why is every song in English despite being in a region with very low English proficiency? The other Middle Eastern black metal projects I'm familiar with (Narjahanam and Al-Namrood) have most of their work in Arabic.
That's not to say non-western bands mustn't do English lyrics. But something doesn't sit right about it when it's literally 100%, especially with the context of the project being a vitriolic response to their surrounding world. Can't find anything about them marketing toward Iraqi/middle-eastern metal scenes either. The project just screams it being an American/European person pulling a gimmick to market toward western audiences and capitalize on Islamophobia.
that is a good point but the only reason why I didnt criticize that about them is cause a lot of the bands from Iraq and Iran are also done in the English language (band names, lyrics and song titles) that I saw on the metal archives .
Eeerrmmm are you suggesting that people in the middle east don't know English? So Mayhem is not Norwegian cause everything they do is in English? Or Kreator not from Germany? English gets you worldwide audience that's the point of using it.
@@ashkanamirian3574 yes but middle eastern countries specifically have really low english proficiency. it's just not taught there much. many european countries (especially germanic countries) have people proficient by the end of high school. yes it gets a worldwide audience, but that's kind of my point here. it's music meant to be blasphemous to their surroundings yet it's built for westerners? it's just a little weird combined with all the other weirdness.
@@rupaulver8578 Sorry to say that's quite ignorant of you. Bet you haven't been outside the hometown much. There's plenty of English going around in the middle east specially Iran where it's taught in school.
@@ashkanamirian3574 There's literally a world English Proficiency Index where the Middle East ranks as the lowest region in English proficiency, with Iraq being the lowest. I didn't just spout that out of ignorance. It's not that they're dumb or don't have any English speakers, it's just not something commonly learned there.
This is so so so dumb . They couldnt make music cos there was a war in iraq? Lmao
When music became as an escape to show expression.....let alone black metal gimmick overhyped with anti this anti that and want to look patheticly evil...yawn boring.....they are just amateur musician that creating pure stupid noise and for the sake of gaining attention and fame.....!!!!!!!!!!!
Bro delete this video.
No
Big.Fat.Phonies.