It's so cool that you take interest in quebecois bands, and francophone bands in general, it makes me feel proud as a frenchman. Your pronounciations are fine by the way, perfectly understandable, thanks for trying !
For Crépuscule d'Octobre you should know that Octobre is a pretty important month in Québec's history. La Crise d'Octobre is an event that occured in October 1970 in Montréal. There was a socialist pro-independance movement called the FLQ (Front de libération Québécois/ Quebec's liberation front) which started perpetrating bombings that were aimed at Canadian infrastructures like Canada-Post and banks; there were some victims which were not intended but in October the FLQ kidnapped an important politician which pushed Pierre-Eliot Trudeau (Canada's prime minister at that time) to impose martial law onto Montréal. No one could come in or come out, there was more than 400 people incarcerated with no given reason because they were of more pro-Québécois political tendancies. People like Michel Chartrand (an important figure in the syndicalist movement in Québec) and Felix Leclerc (a well know Québécois muiscian and singer) were put in prison for 4 months and there never was any apologies from Trudeau or any subsequent government.
"Thèmes Pour La Rébellion" is one album that was heavily recommended to me when I got more & more immersed into Black Metal. I purchased it while I was still in my 1st listening on youtube, I was lucky enough to get it as it was just reprinted a few weeks before that... Still in my personnal Black Metal Top 10 !!
wow . Ive been following you for a few years now . As a Québécois i am stolked that you made a video about my favourite band . And you're explaination about the values of the band and lyrical content . Thank for explaining alot of our history . Also ive been asked if i was a nazi because of wearing a forteresse shirt . Merci pour ce video mon frère.
A solid overview of the best Quebecois black metal band by my count. The side project of Matrak, Cantique Lépreux, is excellent as well and Serment from Moribond is superb. I wasn't aware of Sacrenoir so thanks for pointing that out.
Forteresse is a Great Black Metal Band it’s great to see you give them praise and rightfully so…. I found out about this band from CountBlagoroth i love nearly all if not all the material they’ve released…..
Forteresse is truly one if the greats in black metal. A really raw but epic take on atmospheric black metal. Stand out song writing such great aesthetics. I really love the two variant album covers for Metal noir Quebecois. Both nail down the tough history and pride of Quebec. Also the Moribond's side projects Serment carries that forteresse sound but more synth heavy. Fantastic album
le triomphe des douze from their 2011 album is my favourite track in black metal genre, goosebumps goes even today many years later after that time i first heared about this group. Quebec black metal is really something when you look in sense of the atmospheric black metal subgenre
I'm from Montréal. Thanks for the discovery, I had no knowledge of that band. Also, I'm thinking Québec is pretty solid in the history of metal: Voivod, Cryptopsy, Gorguts... Something is going on here!
As a French Canadian myself or more commonly called Quebecois and a big fan of black metal of almost all trends and subgenres. I really appreciate this video. Thank you my friend!
I was lucky enough to pick up the 'Une nuit pour la patrie' cassette demo, limited to 100, at a metal show in NYC. It has 4 tracks on it. I have the Traditionalisme 7" as well. That's all. Just flexing a little.
Checked and none of their shit is on Spotify man I think they took it down smh. I don’t mind RUclips when I’m on my desktop but on my mobile it’s so awkward to listen to with ads as well
whats' the song in the back at 20:00 until the end? Awesome video, I think Serment is a very good followup to Forteresse... same atmosphere ! I love it
Wyatt, you could have reached out to one of your Quebecois buddies for any pronunciations, translations of their lyrics or interviews if you were interested. You know we’re not shy to talk for days about metal noir Quebecois
There's a huge difference between nationalism of an already independant nation (= the ideology that this nation is better than other and should dominate other) is very different of nationalism of a people who aren't independant (= the ideology that the people have a right to choose for themselves)
Hey I love your videos!!wanted to chime in on something… I am québécois. And a good amount of my familly have identified with separatism in the past. I think there’s a big distinction to be made that is rarely aknowledged by foreigners between the separatism of the 70-90s and the separatism of today. In the 70-90s the movement was widely anti-imperialist, and was a result of Quebec being severely underdeveloped and exploited by the rest of Anglo-Canada and the Catholic Church . Today it is mostly a (generally) xenophobic «Quebec first movement » which has completely different aims from its previous radical movement. It’s not revolutionary by any means and it’s backed by the rich career politicians on the provincial level. Quebec is a thriving province today, culturally, economically and artistically, mostly because of that what happened in the 80s. I love forteresse, and have been a fan for years but there’s something incredibly bogus about the The interview with Moribund when he mentions First Nations peoples in Quebec. The Canadian « Indians » as he inappropriately calls them, have been victims of centuries of abuse, exploitation and genocide ever since « quebecers » were a thing. These communities are the true victims of anglo-imperialism and are still facing the consequences today. While it’s true that many « white » Quebecois have native blood, make no mistake here…this is still native land we’re on, and it’s hard for me to take their nationalistic stance seriously. How are you going to claim a right To independence when you’ve taken that freedom from other peoples….This is the reason many people in Quebec and Canada (rightfully) consider them a "sketch" band. I am a fan of the band, and I can manage to separate the art from artist, but I think historical context is crucial here when you’re talking about a band that celebrates the history of a land that is still complicit in genocide. Love your videos, I hope this didn’t come off as too preachy but I thought your audience could benefit from a little more context. :)
Not too preachy at all, and we’re glad to have more information and context from someone who’s actually québécois! Context is important and I appreciate you explaining it clearly and providing us some additional context.
I agree on some part about some of the current sovereignist movement. But it becoming less and less true. As being myself a sovereignist and being very invested in politics and activism I can tell you that the younger sovereignists (Young millenials and Gen Z) are far more open and progressive on a lot of topics. Any kind of sovereignists that listen to groups like Cowboys Fringants and Loco Locass and actually listen to their message understand that sovereignty is not something to achieve because we're better than others or because we are xenophobic but moreso because we just want to exist and be recognized as what we are. Also as for the first nations part, the Québécois independantist movement is more and more trying to find ways to help the eleven first nations of the territory achieve what they want. And the «taken freedom from other people» part is true but needs to be contextualized; Before the conquest by Great-Britain, the Canadien (read here current day french-canadians and québécois) were in peace with most first nation on the territory, there had been wars yes, but first nations where not forced to become serfs of the French King or anything of the sort, they were recognized as human beings and a huge chunk of french people even prefered living with the people of the land because it granted them better freedom (big reason why there was and is still a Métis people, and why a lot of French-Canadian has some first nation ancestry). La Grande Paix de Montréal which regrouped most of the indigenous people of the americas and New-France was signed in 1701 and was only broken by the Guerre de Conquête (French-Indian War in english history books). After the conquest there was worse treatment of the first nations but it was mostly perpetrated by the Federal Government and the Catholic Clergy even then violence against the first nations in current day Québec was magnitudes of time lesser than in the rest of Canada. The residential schools (which were mostly runned by the Anglican church and Federal Government) still made a ton less damage in Québec compared to the west and Ontario. There were 19 deaths and disappeared people from the schools in Québec, it was 427 in Ontario and 691 in Alberta. nctr.ca/memorial/ fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensionnats_pour_Autochtones_au_Canada And to be clear it does not excuse any of the actions made against the first nations in Québec and any actions taken against other human beings in the way they were done is despicable. But it's just not comparable to the pain done by the British Empire and most of that pain was only perpetrated after we lost our freedom and was arguably mostly done by our rulers. We need justice for our first nations brothers. Their rich and multiple cultures and languages must be preserved, and we must help them! C'est pas tout le monde d'indépendantiste qui sont des fachistes de Nouvelle Alliance. Moi même je me considaires socialiste. La grande majorité du mouvement est social-démocrate et veulent que les premières nations soient mieu traité. Ils ont été crucials à notre existance, sans eux nous ne serions pas qui nous sommes et il merite tout autant que nous et tout les peuples de la terre de s'auto-determiner. J'dis pas que tout les indépendantistes ont ses idéaux là, mais c'est de plus en plus présent et le séparatisme xénophobic «Quebec first movement» comme tu dis est principalement porté par des gens plus vieux. Vive la liberté, vive l'indépendance.
Easily one of the greatest black metal bands of all time. Anyone who doesn't know who they are or recognize their greatness but calls themselves a black metal fan is doing themselves a major disservice. They are very underrated, but if you know, you know! They will surely go down in history as legends of the underground black metal world.
Im waiting for Wyatt's explaining Roman Saenko video, the guy from Hate Forest, Drudkh and many other projects, explaining Drudkh would be a great video too!
I've lived with black metal since the beginning of the 90s here in the forests of Finland, and I also like "nsbm" a lot these days mainly musically and for its own culture, which it presents in its own place. It's not Nazism, it's the worship of one's own place and one's own culture and nature.
@@wyattxhim 🧐 pikku kakara vinkuu, et ollu nääs edes syntyny siihen aikaan.. ja tiedoksi sinnekin, Peikkoja ei ole olemassa, ei edes täällä pohjolassa.
Did you hear the album “One Nightmare unto Another” By the band called “Profane Order”. Tracklist: 1. In the Shadows of the Past 2. No Light Here 3. A Sombre Passage 4. Suppression 5. Pernicious Scum 6. Seething 7. Of Bile and Malice Total runtime: 25:20 They are from Montreal and I think you Might Dig that album, it was released in 2023. Your channel kicks ass, keep it up man!
I tend to be really skeptical of "nationalism" as a concept, but Forteresse are for sure not far right. Nationalism in Canada as a whole is more of a left-wing thing, mostly because of anti-americanism. So yeah, they're not sketchy, just a little silly
Just because I haven’t listened to them doesn’t mean I’m not a fan of black metal. Don’t think your knowledge of music is further along than anyone else’s. That’s immature of you. I like your videos and have watched a lot. Be more mindful of people exploring genres on their own pace and enjoy what they like. Because at the end of the day music is subjective there are no yes or no to anything. Get your head out of your “experienced knowledge” but nice try for making me feel not as knowledgeable👍 it won’t work. “Elitist” will not stand for it?? Lol 👎👎
Wasn't Wyatt's introduction clearly a hyperbole to say that he loves the group? It's just a variation of the standard rhetorical form: "if you don't know xyz you need to change this immediately".
@@SeregethRysgil imagine being so ignorant over a band that doesn’t even know you exist. But criticize people for not knowing they exist. Hey look his wife replied. Not him. Interesting. I’m not trying to be rude or anything.
I can’t stop pissing all over the place from drinking all this water on Wyatt’s command
It's so cool that you take interest in quebecois bands, and francophone bands in general, it makes me feel proud as a frenchman. Your pronounciations are fine by the way, perfectly understandable, thanks for trying !
That new Brodequin record 🔥🔥🔥
Chefs kiss.
Didnt know the band so i checked them out and i am already hooked. I have been listening to the same 2 songs for 2 hours. Excelent band
I think it’s so cool you made a video about Forteresse and gave them such high praise!
For Crépuscule d'Octobre you should know that Octobre is a pretty important month in Québec's history. La Crise d'Octobre is an event that occured in October 1970 in Montréal.
There was a socialist pro-independance movement called the FLQ (Front de libération Québécois/ Quebec's liberation front) which started perpetrating bombings that were aimed at Canadian infrastructures like Canada-Post and banks; there were some victims which were not intended but in October the FLQ kidnapped an important politician which pushed Pierre-Eliot Trudeau (Canada's prime minister at that time) to impose martial law onto Montréal.
No one could come in or come out, there was more than 400 people incarcerated with no given reason because they were of more pro-Québécois political tendancies. People like Michel Chartrand (an important figure in the syndicalist movement in Québec) and Felix Leclerc (a well know Québécois muiscian and singer) were put in prison for 4 months and there never was any apologies from Trudeau or any subsequent government.
I'm using windows HDR and Nvidia AI HDR settings right now, so you are looking crisp and beautiful Wyatt
I haven’t herd there material yet, I’ll check them out thank you🤘🏽
"Thèmes Pour La Rébellion" is one album that was heavily recommended to me when I got more & more immersed into Black Metal. I purchased it while I was still in my 1st listening on youtube, I was lucky enough to get it as it was just reprinted a few weeks before that... Still in my personnal Black Metal Top 10 !!
wow . Ive been following you for a few years now . As a Québécois i am stolked that you made a video about my favourite band . And you're explaination about the values of the band and lyrical content . Thank for explaining alot of our history .
Also ive been asked if i was a nazi because of wearing a forteresse shirt .
Merci pour ce video mon frère.
A solid overview of the best Quebecois black metal band by my count. The side project of Matrak, Cantique Lépreux, is excellent as well and Serment from Moribond is superb. I wasn't aware of Sacrenoir so thanks for pointing that out.
Good review of a great band from here!! Québec’s back Tabarnak!
Great opening statement! Hitting the like button at 0:30. Best bm band!
Forteresse is a Great Black Metal Band it’s great to see you give them praise and rightfully so…. I found out about this band from CountBlagoroth i love nearly all if not all the material they’ve released…..
Forteresse is truly one if the greats in black metal. A really raw but epic take on atmospheric black metal. Stand out song writing such great aesthetics. I really love the two variant album covers for Metal noir Quebecois. Both nail down the tough history and pride of Quebec.
Also the Moribond's side projects Serment carries that forteresse sound but more synth heavy. Fantastic album
le triomphe des douze from their 2011 album is my favourite track in black metal genre, goosebumps goes even today many years later after that time i first heared about this group.
Quebec black metal is really something when you look in sense of the atmospheric black metal subgenre
I'm from Montréal. Thanks for the discovery, I had no knowledge of that band. Also, I'm thinking Québec is pretty solid in the history of metal: Voivod, Cryptopsy, Gorguts... Something is going on here!
Agreed! We gave not only produced some of the greatest death metal bands, but also some great black metal bands like Forteresse and Spectral Wound. 🤘
Underrated and one of my favorite bands in general, btw crepuscule is my fav
As a French Canadian myself or more commonly called Quebecois and a big fan of black metal of almost all trends and subgenres. I really appreciate this video. Thank you my friend!
I was lucky enough to pick up the 'Une nuit pour la patrie' cassette demo, limited to 100, at a metal show in NYC. It has 4 tracks on it. I have the Traditionalisme 7" as well.
That's all. Just flexing a little.
Whenever I feel like getting amped the fuck up and charging into battle I put Spectre De La Rebellion’ on. The beginning has never once gotten old.
I remember being a little bored listening to their earlier albums maybe I need to give these a spin again
Themes pour la Rebellion is a good place to start
They're still boring and the idea of NS French Canadians is hilarious. They sound like Texans and their "we'll secede!!"
The earlier stuff was slower and more based on ambiance imo. The riffs are good but I like the hypnotic blasting.
I somehow never heard about this band. I will definitely listen to them
Checked and none of their shit is on Spotify man I think they took it down smh. I don’t mind RUclips when I’m on my desktop but on my mobile it’s so awkward to listen to with ads as well
They're on Bandcamp as well.
whats' the song in the back at 20:00 until the end? Awesome video, I think Serment is a very good followup to Forteresse... same atmosphere ! I love it
Wyatt, you could have reached out to one of your Quebecois buddies for any pronunciations, translations of their lyrics or interviews if you were interested. You know we’re not shy to talk for days about metal noir Quebecois
enfin du bon contenu. merci.
They are liberterian. We are gonna see those kinds of bands more at near future. Maybe from bayern or texas etc. :D
Texas separatist metal has so much potential as an idea
@@SeregethRysgildefinitely an interesting idea.
Themes for Rebellion is absurdly fucking good.
There's a huge difference between nationalism of an already independant nation (= the ideology that this nation is better than other and should dominate other) is very different of nationalism of a people who aren't independant (= the ideology that the people have a right to choose for themselves)
I never knew what they sang about. I just like the why it sounds
They aren't on Spotify unfortunately
This must be a recent development because they used to be not so long ago. They’re on Bandcamp though
@@curtisgeist6122they were until I believe about a year ago ? Super annoying
Are these serious comments? I wonder because who actually cares, when it's available here and probably elsewhere anyway?
Hey I love your videos!!wanted to chime in on something…
I am québécois. And a good amount of my familly have identified with separatism in the past. I think there’s a big distinction to be made that is rarely aknowledged by foreigners between the separatism of the 70-90s and the separatism of today. In the 70-90s the movement was widely anti-imperialist, and was a result of Quebec being severely underdeveloped and exploited by the rest of Anglo-Canada and the Catholic Church . Today it is mostly a (generally) xenophobic «Quebec first movement » which has completely different aims from its previous radical movement. It’s not revolutionary by any means and it’s backed by the rich career politicians on the provincial level. Quebec is a thriving province today, culturally, economically and artistically, mostly because of that what happened in the 80s.
I love forteresse, and have been a fan for years but there’s something incredibly bogus about the The interview with Moribund when he mentions First Nations peoples in Quebec. The Canadian « Indians » as he inappropriately calls them, have been victims of centuries of abuse, exploitation and genocide ever since « quebecers » were a thing. These communities are the true victims of anglo-imperialism and are still facing the consequences today. While it’s true that many « white » Quebecois have native blood, make no mistake here…this is still native land we’re on, and it’s hard for me to take their nationalistic stance seriously. How are you going to claim a right
To independence when you’ve taken that freedom from other peoples….This is the reason many people in Quebec and Canada (rightfully) consider them a "sketch" band.
I am a fan of the band, and I can manage to separate the art from artist, but I think historical context is crucial here when you’re talking about a band that celebrates the history of a land that is still complicit in genocide.
Love your videos, I hope this didn’t come off as too preachy but I thought your audience could benefit from a little more context. :)
Not too preachy at all, and we’re glad to have more information and context from someone who’s actually québécois!
Context is important and I appreciate you explaining it clearly and providing us some additional context.
I agree on some part about some of the current sovereignist movement. But it becoming less and less true. As being myself a sovereignist and being very invested in politics and activism I can tell you that the younger sovereignists (Young millenials and Gen Z) are far more open and progressive on a lot of topics.
Any kind of sovereignists that listen to groups like Cowboys Fringants and Loco Locass and actually listen to their message understand that sovereignty is not something to achieve because we're better than others or because we are xenophobic but moreso because we just want to exist and be recognized as what we are.
Also as for the first nations part, the Québécois independantist movement is more and more trying to find ways to help the eleven first nations of the territory achieve what they want. And the «taken freedom from other people» part is true but needs to be contextualized; Before the conquest by Great-Britain, the Canadien (read here current day french-canadians and québécois) were in peace with most first nation on the territory, there had been wars yes, but first nations where not forced to become serfs of the French King or anything of the sort, they were recognized as human beings and a huge chunk of french people even prefered living with the people of the land because it granted them better freedom (big reason why there was and is still a Métis people, and why a lot of French-Canadian has some first nation ancestry). La Grande Paix de Montréal which regrouped most of the indigenous people of the americas and New-France was signed in 1701 and was only broken by the Guerre de Conquête (French-Indian War in english history books).
After the conquest there was worse treatment of the first nations but it was mostly perpetrated by the Federal Government and the Catholic Clergy even then violence against the first nations in current day Québec was magnitudes of time lesser than in the rest of Canada. The residential schools (which were mostly runned by the Anglican church and Federal Government) still made a ton less damage in Québec compared to the west and Ontario. There were 19 deaths and disappeared people from the schools in Québec, it was 427 in Ontario and 691 in Alberta.
nctr.ca/memorial/
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensionnats_pour_Autochtones_au_Canada
And to be clear it does not excuse any of the actions made against the first nations in Québec and any actions taken against other human beings in the way they were done is despicable. But it's just not comparable to the pain done by the British Empire and most of that pain was only perpetrated after we lost our freedom and was arguably mostly done by our rulers.
We need justice for our first nations brothers. Their rich and multiple cultures and languages must be preserved, and we must help them!
C'est pas tout le monde d'indépendantiste qui sont des fachistes de Nouvelle Alliance. Moi même je me considaires socialiste. La grande majorité du mouvement est social-démocrate et veulent que les premières nations soient mieu traité. Ils ont été crucials à notre existance, sans eux nous ne serions pas qui nous sommes et il merite tout autant que nous et tout les peuples de la terre de s'auto-determiner.
J'dis pas que tout les indépendantistes ont ses idéaux là, mais c'est de plus en plus présent et le séparatisme xénophobic «Quebec first movement» comme tu dis est principalement porté par des gens plus vieux.
Vive la liberté, vive l'indépendance.
Easily one of the greatest black metal bands of all time. Anyone who doesn't know who they are or recognize their greatness but calls themselves a black metal fan is doing themselves a major disservice. They are very underrated, but if you know, you know! They will surely go down in history as legends of the underground black metal world.
Im waiting for Wyatt's explaining Roman Saenko video, the guy from Hate Forest, Drudkh and many other projects, explaining Drudkh would be a great video too!
18:53 So true. When I first heard it, I wanted to watch the world burn.
Crépuscule d'octobre has always been my favorite!! Do you like Csjethe as well?
Csjethe is great
Pretty sure I still got La Mort du Prince Noir on LP
Love Forteresse!!!
Can you do a video on Utram?
I've lived with black metal since the beginning of the 90s here in the forests of Finland, and I also like "nsbm" a lot these days mainly musically and for its own culture, which it presents in its own place. It's not Nazism, it's the worship of one's own place and one's own culture and nature.
You’re in the forest of Finland with internet?
Nice troll bruh
@@wyattxhim 🧐 pikku kakara vinkuu, et ollu nääs edes syntyny siihen aikaan.. ja tiedoksi sinnekin, Peikkoja ei ole olemassa, ei edes täällä pohjolassa.
People frequently get nationalism and Nazism confused
What a fantastic band ...one of my favourites.
P.s
All hail the serpent ;)
Did you hear the album
“One Nightmare unto Another”
By the band called “Profane Order”.
Tracklist:
1. In the Shadows of the Past
2. No Light Here
3. A Sombre Passage
4. Suppression
5. Pernicious Scum
6. Seething
7. Of Bile and Malice
Total runtime: 25:20
They are from Montreal and I think you
Might Dig that album, it was released in 2023.
Your channel kicks ass, keep it up man!
Check out Akitsa, they have some great songs
I adore Akitsa
I Basically own nearly their whole discography on LP
Butchering the pronouncing of French words is normal for us Anglophones.
Very typical entitled French to expect any of us Anglos care about how to pronounce your peanut butter mouth language
Wish I owned a Human Serpent t shirt...
I am upset this video wasnt about the Australian RAC band, Fortress.
albert?
Forteresse Best french speaking BM
Yes.
Let’s find out ❤
👍🤘
Oh there he goes again mentioning that he's burnt out on metal 😂
Damn guess I never noticed how much ive announced that in vids,
hopefully I get burnt out saying that im burnt out .
Your french pronounciation was terrible, but the video was great nonetheless.
Une nuit pour la patrie
AKITSA
All their songs are about Québec nationalism or separatism, they are not Canadians for fucks sake!
(And I'm not either, vive le Québec libre!)
14:10 🇺🇦 Drudkh 🔱
mincecore iceberg
I tend to be really skeptical of "nationalism" as a concept, but Forteresse are for sure not far right. Nationalism in Canada as a whole is more of a left-wing thing, mostly because of anti-americanism. So yeah, they're not sketchy, just a little silly
The only thing worse than a Frenchman is a Canadian-Frenchman.
You gotta gate keep this shit dude. Wtf are you doing?
Quebec Nationalism? LOL
Forteresse : "Lets make an entire project around the great history and cultural heritage of Québec"
*Plays music from Norway*
Le black metal n'appartiens à aucune nation du tout. Ils ont juste aider à son émergence
Just because I haven’t listened to them doesn’t mean I’m not a fan of black metal. Don’t think your knowledge of music is further along than anyone else’s. That’s immature of you. I like your videos and have watched a lot. Be more mindful of people exploring genres on their own pace and enjoy what they like. Because at the end of the day music is subjective there are no yes or no to anything. Get your head out of your “experienced knowledge” but nice try for making me feel not as knowledgeable👍 it won’t work. “Elitist” will not stand for it?? Lol 👎👎
You must be fun at parties
Wasn't Wyatt's introduction clearly a hyperbole to say that he loves the group? It's just a variation of the standard rhetorical form: "if you don't know xyz you need to change this immediately".
Imagine getting mad offended over an opening hook
@@SeregethRysgil imagine being so ignorant over a band that doesn’t even know you exist. But criticize people for not knowing they exist. Hey look his wife replied. Not him. Interesting. I’m not trying to be rude or anything.
@@Josvasdod I’m confused, why is it notable that I replied? What’s the point in pointing that out?
Quebec 🤢
What wrong with french canadian ?