FLASH Plot Holes and Unanswered Questions EXPLAINED!
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The Flash was a weird movie, with multiversal travel, time travel, multiple bat-men, and uncanny valley babies falling from the sky. So we're here to answer all of your questions about this deeply strange movie.
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Kevin Hamilton on twitter asks, “The big one is who killed his mom…Barry not even being curious is a bit weird.” Now you did answer your own question in the tweet…it was probvabl;y professor zoom, like it is in the comics and the flash tv show. Zoom is a scientist from the future who hero worshiped Flash so much he gave himself speedster powers, and long story short he becomes a villain and goes back in to kill Barry's mother.
If they ever do revisit this franchise,I’m sure he will be the villain in the sequel. And Bat Bunny has a great follow up: “Barry’s dad being home doesn’t automatically mean Nora would’ve survived. If the thief/intruder snuck in he probably would’ve just killed them both.”
Yeah, so Barry reasons that the intruder would;it would have come in if he knew the house was occupied. His mom was listening to music really loud, but whatever. I’m betting that this is the lie Barry told himself, that his mother would have been safe if only his dad would have been there to protect her. Or, more precisely, his dad would not have been blamed for the murder.
Iut is super weird though that Barry concots this whole idea to move tomatoes up to another shelf, instead of just going back to the moment of his mom’s murder to see who the killer was..then years later he could catch the killer. It’s pretty clear he never did this so the movie could set up Zoom being the villain in a sequel that will never come. But more on that a little later.
Jim asks, “How did flash get his powers back from Clara in the sky? Just because chemicals hit him before?” Yes, that’s it. On the surface, it’s silly comic book logic that they could replicate the exact amount of chemicals that randomly hit Barry when he got his powers-but the same thing does happen in the flashpoint comic. I’ll chalk this up to what Barry says in the movie-that some events are just fated to happen.
Isra Z has a great question that we talked about in our easter egg video: “Why his Lightning changes from white (in JL) to yellow? Is it because of his new suit?” Actually, I think his lightning is blue in justice league and suicide squad, because its the color of the speed force. And his lighting is still blue in this movie,when he makes the cushion fort. So yes, it's because of the suit. The new suit allows him to dissipate the energy he charges up, so that same process must turn the lighting yellow. While other Barry doesn’t have this suit, so his lighting is still the color of the speed force.
Crap bag asks, “Why young Barry didn't stop the shovel from falling and making noise?” Because he is an idiot.
Baitha na on youtube asks, “Why would they think that one kryptonian that just got their powers could defeat another kryptonian that had at least a day more exposure to the sun and militarily training?” Yeah, you’re right. They should have just given up and never tried.
Nah but seriously, they had to do something. And kara had been on earth for a while, so that explains how she could adapt so fast. She did…really get the hang of her powers quick though.
Brude Lau says, “Why did they have to find KAL-EL after restoring Barry’s speed ? Cause imagine that That don’t make NO SENSE.”
Doug: Yeah, that don;t make any sense.
Niegher does the question. Obviously you know why they had to find kal-el…maybe you’re asking why they waited till after finding him to restore bary’s powers. Barry was trying to make events go the way they did in his world, where Superman defeated Zod. and Remember, Barry was useless at the battle of metropolis. I think he only tries to get his power back after because they’re ot even sure if Kara is going to help them.
Andrew Dickens says, “Even if the dad was at the store he was still there very close like not even 20 seconds to when she was stabbed so it still could be him. He was at the store when it was pinned on him and he was at the store when he came and found her having just been stabbed - it proved nothing.” 
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Any questions we missed?
How's it hanging Ryan? I always enjoy your breakdowns. Cheers bruv
He doesn’t care lol 😂
How didn't Nora recognize Barry in the supermarket at the end ??
when you explain kraven the hunter? i wanna know him
How much Ritalin did you take today?
The most realistic part of this movie is how the cops locked a dude up because they were too lazy to go to the grocery store to get a copy of his receipt.
They may have erased daily. most small shops had crappy video systems, if any in 2013
@@familynerfit’s not 2013. 2013 is when Barry is 18. More like 2005 cuz Barry mom died when he was around 5 yo
@@familynerf Erased receipts daily? The IRS would not be happy about that.
@@giabaonn600 And I guarantee grocery stores kept records of purchases of canned tomatoes in 2008 also
how would a receipt help? they put names on it?
Barry did do the whole “phasing his hand through the chest” thing to one Kryptonian during the battle. It was actually pretty cool and unexpected
And completely destroying the fact that Barry Allen doesn’t kill.
Though I liked the scene where two Barrys phasing through a wall and showing the inner part of the molecules vibrating.
@@leokang6841 I choose to believe that he merely incapacitated the Kryptonian 😆
Yeah, the wall phasing scene was cool 👍🏾
I don't know how the flash brothers thought that the zod kryptonians were unbeatable. Even newb Barry stumbled and bumbled his way into accidentally stabbing faora ul to death. Like you said, original Barry phased his hand into another kryptonian guy's chest, cw reverse flash style. Also, the flashes weren't fighting a super OP kal El from ZSJL. They were fighting a bunch of kryptonian purists that didn't like to leave their own home planet and refused to take advantage of the powers that the yellow sun gave them.
Also, with some batman prep time, Barry could have told Keaton about green kryptonite and red sun rays weakening kryptonians and canceling their abilities. But it looks as if, in this movie's set rules, kryptonian physiology is affected by any sort of kryptonian weapons and metals originating from krypton, much in the same vein that earthly humans are affected by earth guns and steel metal blades.
As long as the flashes have the element of surprise, they could have phased their hands or kryptonian metals into zod's team and turned their brains and hearts into so much mashed potatoes and omelets.
Since the usa army were in the desert and getting slaughtered by the dozens, you would think Martian manhunter would break cover and start protecting the humans, but I guess earth was destined to lose, for the sake of the script. Thus, proving Martian manhunter is a chicken shit in every alternate universe. SMH. 🙄
@@leokang6841 Well that Barry was obviously on a darker path already. This was on purpose, to let the audience know what's up
@@tigerlancer Basically, it’s a fixed point in time in that universe. No matter what he did, he was destined to lose
Batfleck's "knowledge" of time travel was the basic stuff anyone who's read fiction/watch movies would know. On the other hand, Keaton not only had complete knowledge of how time travel _actually_ worked, he seemed to have distain for anyone who believed it worked like it does in Back to the Future when he's explaining fulcrums and why Barry changed the distant past.
But why
@@REALTALKMARS exactly. In the video Ryan says that Ben Affkeck also knew implying some sort of equivalency, but there wasn't. Keaton knows _way_ more than Batfleck so it's a big plot hole.
How would Going back in time to one moment make a mf turn into an older mf like .... Warner Brothers wtf. It seems like they only hire hack ass writers who have discovered comic books exist like GLORILLA discovered foxes
@@andrewshandlehe’s 70 🤣🤣🤣
Actually he was just explaining multiverse theory. Like Dragon ball Z except he had the theory “if its another timeline then the past will likely be different too”
If Barry technically isn’t in his universe anymore, this could possibly give opportunity for Wally West to become the Flash. How he would do that, I have no idea.
That's what I'm hoping for
The only reason that the security footage in the grocery store was all blurry was because there were two flashes unleashing so much electromagnetic interference by running around in there ... Essentially Barry doomed his father to be accused
Well yeah ig but even when Bruce fixed it, his dad didn’t look up so couldn’t see his face
Wouldn't his dad be picking up a can of tomatoes since his mom didn't get them in the first place, and Barry only went to whenever his mom was grocery shopping in time?
@@onlyrxby yeah but during that interaction the cameras circuits were fried by Barry's earlier visit so when his dad came it was already not working
They don’t need video. They go to the store and pull up the receipt proving he brought what he said he bought when he said he bought it. Remember, cops used to solve crimes before video.
@@michaelcoles6203 how does that work if he paid cash? does tomatoes bought around the same time window count as alibi?
Don't understand why critics are trashing this movie , totally loved it, nice interpretation of the multiverse.
15:51 lmao! That was a great lil cameo question from Paul the HeavySpoilers guy
In the movie, it shows his Dad pulling up and getting out of the car when he hears his wife screaming because of the attack. He can't be in the driveway and in the house killing her at the same time.
I think saying that Barry was useless in the Battle of Metropolis is a little harsh. Even though he couldn’t get to his dad, he did still save that kid. 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.
Thousands of people died, so saving 2 people is like a fraction of a percent.
I thought the other universes existed before Barry and other Barry really started messing everything up further. They seemed to be spread out and then sucked towards each other, like the Barry's chrono-bowl became some sort of multiverse destroying singularity. We initially saw two of those universes collide, but they separated and "healed" after other Barry died. So the multiverse is actually a mix of spaghetti strings and meatballs...?
I would also say that the other spheres were other universes and NOT alternate timelines. Alternate timelines aren't the only kind of alternate universes.
It was also shown in the Flash series that all of these alternate universes exist. And each of these universes has its own range of alternate timelines.
its just inconsistent writing .
Yup, he's tripping
😅😅well whatever the cases be, that version of supergirl doesn't exist no more.
Why would having his father home prevent his mothers death if he were home would it be that both of them get killed instead???
Yes. Barry doesn’t even try to figure out the motive of why his mother was murdered. Not at all.
@kojikabuto8426 the killer thought that there was no body left as home after the Father went to a store so to enter and steal and that is when he killed the mother
@@michaelkaggwa4915 well that is a question of many why didnt barry even find out who the killer is first if it is just a simple burglar then having his father might scare him away what if it was something else like a reverse flash he did not even try to find that out
I loved this movie, even with plot holes and weird CGI. IM really happy we FINALLY got a flash movie, but its not like I care if Ezra gets recasted and they just restart the whole thing with a new Barry, in fact I encourage it. Sad they ddint tease reverse flash but hopefully they can start with that with a new Barry
Thrash flop movie
@@lanalan4157to each his own
recast is the past participle of recast
I have no beef with what actors do in their lives, I'm just here for the movie. Ezra did a great performance.
@@Ailwuful tottaly agree.
Except it’s not just the chemicals you can see young Barry touch him and a spark of speed force reaches out to old Barry which restarts his connection
Thank you! Kara zapping him with lightning twice did nothing. But as soon as younger Barry gave a little speed force spark, he started healing.
yeah that’s what I thought also :)
I really enjoyed this video, very informative. I’d love a part 2 to this because I love all this multiverse stuff and getting all the details really adds to the movie. Also I like the snyderverse so another video on it would be great before it’s inevitably forgotten/ not talked about once the DCU is in full swing
OK, but the issue in regards to Barry’s dad and the store still doesn’t make sense. His dad was about to walk in the front door… You could see him on the front lawn outside of the window walking towards the house when the mom suddenly screams and he runs inside to find that she’s been stabbed. So regardless of whether he went to the store or not, he was still at the house at the time of the stabbing.
Yes, Yes, Yes! Exactly what I've been saying. Tomatoes high or low does not matter. Dad's face on video does not clear him. Dad arrives home at the same time in both timelines. All the police see in both timelines is that Dad is home with his hand on the knife. Tomatoes change nothing. A store receipt or eyewitness from the store who saw Dad or a still-warm car engine does not matter to the police.
I don't think Barry was so much concerned with proving who killed his mother as proving that his father did not. That was his whole focus.
Ideally James Gunn would have just come in and do a hard reset and just said they are starting from scratch. Movies like Flash and Aquaman 2 being delayed due to Covid and other factors made it a bit messy to go from one universe to another. I was hoping Flash would give us a better explanation for a reset like the comics but they didn't see to have a way to do that with what was already filmed.
Professor Zoom and Zoom is not the same person, Zoom is hunter zolomon (the one with black glass lenses), while professor Zoom is better known as reverse flash/eobard thawne and he's the one who killed nora allen
Thank u
Yes thank you. He confused the two.
Who's the evil flash in the movie? I heard they call him sabotar or what ever.
@@dbog5214 i thought it was Savitar as well. But "Dark Flash" will do i guess.
@@dbog5214 it's a dark flash version of the movie, but it have similarities to CW's savitar, that's why people calls him that
Best breakdown channel!! Big ass fan of you and Doug! Keep up the great content!
🤣Spaghetti is a trigger word for the man in blue, I would not have guessed that. Thank you for taking the time to hit the questions it is fun to dive deep lets just remember to come up for air!♥
I think you're wrong about the events of this movie having created Adam West Batman, et el. Those universes are colliding due to the damage Barry is causing, but they always existed separately.
We even see Jay Garrick in his own chrono ball changing his own timeline.
Perhaps the Keaton Batman universe we see in this movie was created by Barry's meddling, but that doesn't mean they all were. Hell, there are probably other Batman '89 universes out there as well
Wow!!! that's some deep research you did there.... thank you
I lowkeye enjoy every time Ryan says "Days of THE Future Past" like that's the title
3:02
In response to that question, why would Zod think that a Kryptonian that just got his powers could defeat another Kryptonian who had at least 9,000 more days exposure to the sun?
I interpret barry not learning his lesson and saving his father in the end as being a reflection of human behaviour. We always repeat the same mistakes in one way or another which eventually leads to the same outcome. Barry here tried to change the lesser of the two evils he had( saving his mom and his dad in the process or not being able to save his mom and lose both of them) , so he chose to atleast be able to not lose his dad. I personally didnt have a gripe with it as showing these heroes as not perfect really makes them more relatable than making superheroes seem like ppl who can never do anything wrong and will never repeat mistakes.
He really said "🤬 you Paul" with a straight face, that was the best. 😂😂😂
I could be totally wrong, but I'm prettttyyyyy sure that somewhere in the comics, it's been explained that the speed force actually protects people from harm while the Flash moves. Explaining why he can catch people falling from building and stuff, without snapping their necks. Could have been in the N52, or another era of comics, but I remember that being a thing. I didn't even notice he couldn't touch people until you said it in this video lol.
I just wanna know why Kara’s English is so good if she was in Mother Russia her whole life.
She was on a ship to earth I'm assuming it was programmed to teach her the knowledge she needed when she landed.
The way they portrayed how he moves people angered me lol. In the comics he has a protective aura that protects him and whatever or whoever he’s touching from the effects of moving at super speed. He can also turn this ability on or off to hurt opponents. Thawne can actually turn it off with other speedsters. He did it to Jay Garrick recently and syphoned his protective field while he was running and Jay burned up from the friction. I was kinda bummed the movie didn’t hit on it. I think the show did at some point. Hence why he could also put other people in Flash time when he was
Wow, great video! You even answered some of my own questions.
This film had absolutely nothing on JL Flashpoint Paradox animated movie.
He didn’t get the powers from the sky he got it from the lightning from past Barry. This is based on The comics where future Barry ran so fast that he became the lightning that gave him his speed.
I dont think Barry creates those realities, I think they already exist. Its possible that other Barry's from other realities also create those realities with all their time travelling. Or these realities just exist already. I think its best to leave it open to interpretation.
Nope
@@thezeek2745 Like I said, open to interpretation.
@@peterlenham3180I think it's like the Schrodinger thing - if the cat lived ( in this universe ) then it died in another . So every time travel choice is a ripple that creates them.
@@madhurdhingra4525Possibly, like I said its open to interpretation.
i think the movie showed that, those realities already existed prior to him messing in the chrono bowl, which is why we see them crashing into it as they continue to mess things up.
if he was creating them instead, we would see them being created, possibly moving away from the chrono bowl.
How did "Dark Flash" punch Flash out of the chrono ball if Flash hadn't changed anything yet?? He didn't didn't save his mom, didn't meet younger Barry or give younger Barry his powers, etc. He didn't change a single thing yet! So how did Dark Flash even exist already??
Truth
18:05 Ya i also thought of the same word - BADASS
Atlantians vs Kryptonians 😢 We missed it. Would have been the perfect flashpoint adaptation!!
He didn't create the Adam West Batman. The Adam West Batman was one of the Batmen that was shown in the scene of the multiverse. They all already existed in other universes, he just was able to see them.
Nope... he definitely created all of DC that we've seen bud, how do you not understand this...?
@@stellaragent3787 I understand it much better than you apparently. It was the multiverse, it was already in existence, but since Barry was messing things up so much it was causing incursions and other universes we starting to be affected. It’s really not hard to understand.
@@kryptonson apparently not champ you literally just tried to pull some bs out your ass smh, I would say nice try but we both know it wasn't...
It really could be either or. BUT if you've watched the screen crush videos about this film, stellaragent3787 is correct, When Barry went back in time he created more universes and timeliness, which are likely the ones we see in the movie.
@@SuperCisMan he did, but that doesn’t mean that others weren’t already in existence. And most of what was seen was preexisting in real life anyway, it seems like they just gained access to other universes as well as possibly creating more themselves.
He's Batman... a genius intellect in any universe.
You are such a good channel!
Always well done!! Thanks for all the hard work!
Could this also explain why Barry's dad looks different between the two movies, other than just being a simple recasting? He did go and Rewind time in Zack Snyder's Justice League twice
THANKS for this!!!!!
The cctv footage showing Barry's dad would not be enough to prove his innocence because in the flash back you see him walk up the driveway just as Barry's mum screams. So time wise he could have easily killed her still.
Exactly, idk why he didn’t mention this.
Maybe it took dad a bit longer to find the can because they were moved. This could have caused him to arrive home later then what originally happened.
Ok so, I think many people including Ryan are confused about the ending.... Barry accepted his fate! he accepted that his mother had to die and returned the canned tomatoes at it's original place. Look at his hands, they're pointing downwards, 4th shelf I think. he looked up because he knew there was a camera but he can't help his dad. he did not knew that his dad was going to be free... he just came back. Now what I think happened is, think of the chronobowl fulcrum as a ship navigating the ocean, 1 degree of slight turn and the whole course changes. Similarly when barry was going back in time for the first time to save his mom, dark flash pushed him out of the chronobowl, thereby changing his course. Also, if you remember, there was a baby in the shopping cart when barry first visited his mom, that baby was Crying. but when he went back in the end, that baby was Smiling, which kinda indicates that this is yet another timeline he's running back into
i didnt realize the baby was smiling! Good eyes
Good observation. I think a lot of people hating on this movie just didn't get it.
@@manuelmendez6022 wrong, i disliked it because i "got it". the movie is just dumb. it show time and time again things that it said wouldnt happen, happening.
for example, it showed how even 1 of the flashes alone would be enough to kill every kryptonian there. he doesnt, it shows the 2 barry before they run back in time, after they return, meaning, they are still present during the fight. but for some reason, even though barry 2 returned thousands, if not millions of times, he could never win against zod? but he is shown comboing faora to death with ease?
the movie is a mess.
@@marcosdheleno remember these Kryuptians weren't on Earth long they haven't develop their abilities as yet. But they fast and strong with suits on. Barry in meeting with Superman the first time was able to dunk and push an little.
This has to be one of the Best videos I’ve seen on time travel in regards to comics.. 😎😎😎😎😎
I don't remember Zoom being the one to kill Barry's mom???
Wasn't it Reverse Flash in the series and also in Flashpoint?
Professor zoom is eobard thawne. Zoom is hunter zolomon.
Because professor zoom can school zoom
Ryan got Professor Zoom mixed up with Zoom. In his defense, he smokes a lot of deathsticks.
My question is why couldn't they make young Barry eobard Thawne in disguise if I remember correctly the reverse flash in the comics changed his face to make himself look like Barry to confuse everyone, couldn't they have done that with young Barry/eobard to show a different way he gets flash powers as well which is why young Barry in the movie ends up crazy and angry .
14:05 that’s what I always feel like when I watch movies like this. There’s like a eerie feeling that they still lost if that makes any sense. Like nothing was accomplished. Just made worse. I’ll because the metaled with time. Imagine something like this happening to you and then coming back to the present just to see a whole bunch of different people being the new versions of your love ones.
Barry running forward with his legs moving in reverse still looks sooooo damn weird every time I see it! Why did they do that and who thought it looked cool enough to put into the movie?
I remember in Batman & Robin. George Clooney's Batman said this is why Superman works alone so I guess there's a Superman in that Universe already.
Or he was being sarcastic.
@@peterlenham3180of course he was being sarcastic…but the fact that he’s aware of Superman means there is a Superman in that timeline
@@andycalmes4201 Or he was just been sarcastic. No proof that Superman is around in his reality. It could just be comic book Superman in his universe.
@@peterlenham3180 riiiiiight. There’s a comic book Superman. That’s logical
@@andycalmes4201 Hows it any different than DC comics in the MCU? Eternals mentioned Superman, and that was supposed to be the comic book character in that film.
I really don’t understand the hate for this movie. I smiled ear to ear the whole time.
Some people are stupid and/or their hearts are full of hate.
The film was a convoluted mess.
Snyder cult, Marvel fans and Ezra Miller haters 😭 honestly the movie was set up to fail even tho it was really good.
Because you're not the only one who can hold an opinion.
Because it’s easier to hate..and it’s more fun I can make one hate comment towards the movie and get like 20 replies
Thank you for making this video ⚡️👍
The beef between heavy and Ryan is awesome
With the explanation of how time travel works, does that mean that barry can never get back to his original reality? Once you create other variants of Barry, arent they free to also create their own futures?
What I got from it is as soon as he interacts with a previous timeline he renders it null and void unless he came upon it the exact moment even a single atom of himself interacted with it. He would look around and change his perspective on X or Y and form an opinion then it all starts again.
Supergirl wasn’t n infant when she left Krypton. She was already training with her mother to be a warrior. She knew about her abilities under a yellow sun. Clark on the other hand, had no idea about his powers until they start manifesting. That’s why she popped out of her cell and was instantly wrecking shop. She knew she could do those things. She was sent to Clark to protect him…..with her powers….
interesting how everybody who talking about "Bootstrap Paradox" try to explain what it is using any crazy metaphor except a Bootstrap
Not sure if Barry insomuch as created new universes but created momentary portals / bridges / windows into other timelines as they already existed given the explanation door time travel the movie gives. The “TV” verse represented by 50’s Superman w/ CW Jay Garrick / Zolomon as it’s core Flash (weird ik) 80’s Superman Movie Verse & A New “Elseworld” Verse w/ Nic Cage as one of it’s Supermen. Those timelines were out there already, and I’d like to think The Flash gives room to interpret they’re still out there with a Infinite Multitude of Crisis level stories to tell. Love your channel.
Sir, but the Flash Series says that Zoom was an orphan, named Hunter Zolomon who turned into a serial killer and on the night of his electrocution, he gets his powers due to the catastrophic failure of the Particles Accelerator experiment by Dr. Wells.
I think ryan got hunter zolomon and eobard thawne mixed up, thawne is the reverse flash who killed barry's mom and is barry's arch enemy ofc, he is called professor zoom while hunter is wally's arch nemesis called zoom
He's talking about Professor Zoom, AKA Eobard Thawne. (Also Hunter Zolomon's origin in the comics is way different.)
The cw show also called nazi reverse flash professor zoom. Comics both hunter and eobard go by reverse flash and some form of onomatopoeia
Henry wasn't a half hour away when Nora was stabbed. He was pulling up in the driveway.
Yeah, I was wondering the same. The explanation from Ryan doesn't make sense. He was outside the house when she was stabbed and she died in his arms. So proving that he didn't do it based on the CCTV footage is impossible.
@@himsoni85 The footage only proves that he went to the store to get tomatoes. Something his receipt would have proved. Plus there should have been register CCTV footage. What store has CCTV in the aisles, but not at the checkout/register?
I would assume She was killed when he was at the store. Post mortum can give the actual time frame of it happening.
@@Akash666999 You don't need to assume. Just watch the movie.
For the keaton question and why he was a hermit? Someone mentioned that bruce needed Alfred to make sure he was eating, taking care of himself. Alferd was a father figure to him. And since he died there was no one to make sure of that anymore, and when you lose everything i think you would be a hermit too. Plus Gotham was safe. And he didn't have a reason anymore to care. ( plus the actor who was Alfred died in real life,) so this is actually the best answer to that.
12:15 No Barry didn't create the multiverse. He almost destroyed it but he didn't create it. You could say he created Keaton's universe, or atleast the version of the Keaton's universe in this movie. Same with Clooney's universe, but that's it.
yeah that’s my take also, we have to remember that Ezra’s Flash was in CW Barry’s universe in the Arrowverse Crisis crossover which ended the multiverse*
*or so we thought :D
@@pgkrzywy Yup that's what I was thinking too. I was afraid to say it though incase someone tried saying that scene wasn't canon.
Gotta admit it, after all these years being a massive flash fan, it was surreal watching a flashpoint live action movie on the big screen
Ummm to answer the zod vs Cara. Zodd still had his helmet on. They haven't sensed the atmosphere
Big plot hole is "Young Barry" goes from being an annoying clown, and after learning that "Old Barry" went back in time to save his mom and meeting Kara for like 2 minutes, he goes _hardcore_ the opposite direction and goes crazy screaming that nobody dies! Young Barry's personality shift in the third act is just bonkers.
He was struck by lightning. You need to get checked out by a doctor. lightning changed some neural pathways
This could be easily explained through his lack of maturity. An 18 year old in some ways is still a kid in their mind. Kids can be impulsive, not take things seriously, and throw tantrums. All things young Barry did
I mean… when you realize that your other times line’s mom died and he went back to fix it, I’m sure it’s slap in the face to realize how serious things are
@@johndinh2913excellent point
Bruce can look different in different universes, even though he has the same parents, for the same reason you don’t look identical to your siblings. Only a specific sperm meeting up with a specific egg will create that exact genetic combination. So, even if the same parents give their genetic material to Bruce in different universes, the slightest deviation can result in the Batmen looking more like siblings than exact copies of each other.
I don't even think it's the same parents though. That wasn't Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Lauren Cohan was it? (i am not sure actually, but it looked like an old timey photograph)
Michael Keaton is 71. Robert Pattinson is 37. Adam West would have been 95. I don't see how it could always be the same parents.
@@linkdk59No, the parents were different. Batman explained his reality was merged with the Flash’s past due to changing the past.
the problem is the movie doesnt explain it properly. the simple answer is, he hopped dimensions when he returns from a change in the past.
let me ask you this, if he, instead of running back to the present, decided to stay in that timeline, would affleck morph into keaton? no he wouldnt, the reason he ended up in a present with a diferent reality is because he changed a point at a "crossroad". where multiple universes colide. and as he was push away, he ended in that particular variant.
if someone came to our time, and shot, lets say, elon musk in the face, this wouldnt change our past. it wouldnt make bill gates the owner of apple, or make hitler black.
what it would do, is make the person who did that, end up at a diferent reality than the one he left off.
@@marcosdheleno If time travel is possible, then it's inevitable that it will be used in the future. And if your past had already been altered by time travelers from your own future, then changing your past would ripple into their lives and have a butterfly effect on any hypothetical number of previous existential dominoes.
I loved the video but I think the assumption that this movie would reveal the new Batman was the fault of some fans. They never said that would happen, which is why when the George Clooney scene happened I took it way better as just an inside. We gotta stop expecting things and just watch these films.
Amen! 🙌
😂😂 That heavy spoilers bit 😂😂
15:54 😂 love it !
That opening scene was weird and very unneeded the rest of the film was really good
Lol the Cgi babies
Agree, it was actually kinda distracting
I bet Miller insisted there be babies in it. Honestly if to catch a predator was still about it wouldn't take long to get to Miller 😂
I liked it, showcased his powers plus it was so goofy that it was fun imo do.
Nothing was wrong with the scene.
I think Kara zor-el is sent to earth as a teenager or at least old enough to be the protector for kal-el
Dammit Paul! 🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣 🍝 What is Spaghetti? He must've thought this is Jeopardy! 15:54
Does this film open the possibility of Ezra Miller being replaced as the Flash?
Very much so
Yes
Yep. Ezra flash ended in a timeline with Clooney Batman who we know is not going to be Batman in Gunns DCU. The new onscreen flash will be someone else in the new universe
If Zoom was Barry's mom's killer then why did he need Barry's dad out of the house to do it? Zoom can move so fast he appears invisible so he easily could have done it in a room full of people. Also, Zoom would have wanted Barry's dad to be present to be framed for the murder as it adds to Barry's hunt for justice which creates the Flash. We know Barry's dad being at home prevents the mom from being killed so either it wasn't Zoom or it's inconsistent writing.
Without Barry Allen as the flash professor zoom doesn’t exist
Well as soon as Barry went back in time, he changed the future and the past. That new timeline was now destined to be destroyed by Zod in 2013 meaning there no longer is a future for Reverse Flash to travel back from
@@culchiefilms1791 True, but still very likely the original person who killed Barry's mom still killed her, which of the movie intended it to be Zoom is laughably improbable. The idea Zoom would be deterred from killing Barry's mom is as weak as the spaghetti sauce Batman was making
@@shad0wf1sh74 You only think that because you understand Professor Zoom's motive for killing Nora about as well as Barry understood time travel. Zoom's true goal is Barry's dad being arrested for Nora's murder so that Barry becomes the Flash. If Zoom killed Barry's dad then Barry won't become a forensic scientist in the hope of getting his father out of prison. His father would be dead, not in prison so Barry doesn't become the Flash and Zoom doesn't get his powers.
Zoom killing both of Barry's parents would create a Grandfather paradox. He doesn't get his powers so he couldn't go back in time to kill Nora in the first place.
@@haljordan777 not saying he would kill Flash's dad, having Henry arrested is a big part of Zoom's plan as it causes Barry to become a CSI looking to exonerate his dad rather than just being a vigilante to avenge his mom. What I'm saying is Barry's dad being home prevented Nora's death as seen in the Keaton timeline. If Zoom was the one who killed he would have done it regardless if Henry was present as he could have been in and out faster than the eye could see and would have left Henry to take the blame. The fact that Henry being Home prevented Nora's death was a pretty good indicator it wasn't him...... P.S. never challenge my comic book knowledge 😂
Mr Destiny was actually Released in 1990, love your work though man never stop being so awesome.
The whole DCEU is an alternate reality since Reverse Flash time-traveled back and kill Nora Allen.
People ask dumb questions. It's like they have to be spoon-fed every detail. I liked George Clooney as Batman /Bruce Wayne. It was the movie that sucked. I saw "The Flash" and I liked it. It was a good movie. The CGI didn't bother me. It was alright. People just like to bitch about everything. Like they're experts themselves.
CGI never bothers me...and you have to have some suspension of disbelief to enjoy superhero genre movies. But if a good bit of your audience has so many questions about the mechanics of your movie and story telling, you might need to think about that as a filmmaker. I enjoyed the movie...but I walked out if the theater with the same comment as Ryan. Cut the multiverse time travel stuff if you can't do it better. It also takes away stakes. Oh, Batman died? Let's just go grab a new one! I get it...this allows characters to go on infinitely. But they have done that already without muddling up the water with time/universe travel shenannigans.
Who else cringed when the teenager said "i love you ?" It reminded of erza's real life grooming charges 😮
it reminded me of the fan ezra choked in that one video, thought that was gonna happen lol
@@ianlau6950 ooo so much worse. Lol
I went in Ezra charges RUclips hole after the movie 😂 it's so awkward and creepy and sad when he offers to punch out the fan that's nervous to take a photo. What a way to needlessly ruin your image over a photo. He must have been really stoned on something strong to be that aggressive. That coupled with his already potent mental disorder
😂I love Doug and Ryan💚
I find it hilarious they did a referential “this is how time travel works, not how it’s usually perceived” scene trying to debunk the time travel logic from Endgame, but they end up doing basically the same thing in a different font.
Why can't people just enjoy movies at face value anymore? Yes they're going to be plot holes in things that don't fit, but that's just the way movies are
Spoiled people. Everyone knows everything now
What an L take
That's a very stupid statement.
Because when the plot holes are big as hell then of course were gonna notice
You must be new around here
I've come to enjoy that screen crush I tor music early in the morning when I sit at my desk
5:09 except Barry literaly does that to one kryptonian. they were also able to murder multiples of them. including faora, with ease.
Its amazing how industrial accidents usually leave people injured or die. Super power by chemicals and electricity is so far fetched.
This movie has some good surprises like young Barry making our Barry more likeable, credit to Ezra for playing opposite himself and really pulling it off. I thought it was awesome that they turned him into reverse flash. Other than that they executed these ideas half-assed-ly, and chose weird cgi and cheap marvel copying. Why do we all know that DC has the better ideas as far as what we want to see live action but can't trust anybody to get DC right outside of a Batman solo? I appreciate that Ryan didn't do as much to protect/defend this movie even though he gave them more excuses they deserved.
I had a lot of the same questions as most but realized it's just a Movie. Nothing more nothing less. We're not supposed to think that deeply because we actually have common sense.
Best cameo was Heavy Spoilers! :D
18:18 The parents would probably look different as well, each Batman had their own parents, they don't all share the same versions.
I think one thing that’s missing from the fulcrum time travel explanation is why the past would change. In this video, you mention a ripple effect that will go backwards, but that doesn’t quite sit right with me. Instead, the way that I’ve been thinking about it is that in order for the new future to exist based on the change that happen, it drags events from the past in order to line up. Innoway, it’s kind of like how magnets work in an electric motor. If they were permanent magnets in it, if you only make a very small change, then it’ll pop back to where it was, but if you make a large enough change, then it will snap to a new position where everything lines up again.
Yes I'm confused? So if Barry is not stuck in a different timeline and this is instead the same DCEU timeline, but altered. Then how is Ben Affleck supposed to be appearing in Aqua Man 2. I'm assuming Aqua Man isn't going to be fighting alonside Clooney in this movie?
I think Ben is playing a joke and hired a guy to mess with Barry
Well it probably is his timeline, but with cracks. Things have changed. He cracked the bowl of reality and he technically fixed it, well fixed his “fixed point of his mom dying” and when put back the bowl now has a crack in it. They explain this in CW flash with Jay Garrick. Every time you go back and fix things a new crack appears in your original reality so it’s not the same
Loved this movie
Why did they have Barrys boss tell him to work and close the case when he does zero actual work to close the case?
15:52 I've watched this part multiple times 🤣🤣
It was one of the funnest movies I've watched in a long time
You: Trying to answer all of these questions about time travel.
Every Doctor Who Fan: WIBBLY WOBBLY TIMEY WIMEY! (That's all you need to know!)
i laughed out loud at work, when you said fuck you paul! not only cuz i get the joke from watching his channel too, but my name happens to be paul as well 😂
Michael Keaton "Bruce" mention that Gotham is at peace, which is why he didn't dawn the cape anymore.
Having Clooney as Bruce at the end was a HUGE injustice to Battfleck
"🤬 you Paul!" 😂😂😂 Best line ever!
I LOVED THIS MOVIE!!! I can’t wait to buy it 😅😅🍿🍿
0:18 I like how you give some spoiler warning in a plot holes explained video about Clooney yet you posted a video just days ago plastering this spoiler in the title and thumbnail.
I still don't believe that Barry 2's timeline is the Batman '89 universe. How does Zod factor in? So in like EVERY universe, Zod attacks Metropolis in 2013? I personally think that the Barry 2 universe is some amalgam, battleworld scenario. Keaton is playing A Batman, but not THE Batman from the Burtonverse