Top 10 Lost F1 Circuits - Abandoned Formula One Tracks - Improved Edition

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2019
  • Top 10 Lost F1 Circuits - Abandoned Formula One Tracks - Edition 3
    This is an improved version of my Top 10 of Lost F1 Circuits. In this edition you got much more information and entertainment than in the older versions. This video contains a voiceover, maps with indicators and much more!
    All race tracks in this video are visited by me, Herman Liesemeijer. At this way I wish to thank all circuits that collaborated to this video and let me on the track.
    Special thanks to Simon Smith for the voiceover, and Yuri Bruschi for the guidance on the old Monza Circuit. You see him also in the Monza crash on the banking.
    Warning: If you continue you get information about my Top 10 of Lost F1 Tracks!
    10. Nivelles-Baulers 0:08
    9. AVUS Berlin 1:48
    8. Reims-Gueux 3:51
    7. Rouen-les-Essarts 5:52
    6. Montjuich Park 7:34
    5. Old Monza 8:49
    4. Old Spa-Francorchamps 11:10
    3. Österreichring 13:15
    2. Old Charade Clermont-Ferrand 14:39
    1. Old Hockenheimring 16:02
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  • @tdyerwestfield
    @tdyerwestfield 4 года назад +761

    They created a simulation of the old Spa circuit and found that a 2018 F1 car would be at full throttle for 94% of the lap.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +120

      Yeah for todays F1 it would be too fast. Even the current circuit is a lot full throttle. I rember in the 90's they brake for Pouhon, now they only lift a little for the first one.

    • @skandre7776
      @skandre7776 4 года назад +43

      @@Circuitsofthepast Pouhon became full throttle/small lift in qualy only after 2017 rules, they used to brake and downshift in V10 V8 era

    • @rockypupoxo
      @rockypupoxo 4 года назад +36

      But isnt that F1 is supposed to be ? Flat balls out racing ! Not like it is now with fuel saving on some tracks . The hybrid era maybe faster but its all about managing different modes on the car , Senna would have hated it .

    • @skandre7776
      @skandre7776 4 года назад +55

      @@rockypupoxo 94% on throttle is more like drag racing

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +43

      I agree with both skandre7 7 7 and rockypup1968. Todays F1 is more about fuel and tyres saving, while it should be about pushing to the limit. On the other way, a track which is 94% full throttle is not interesting. There should be a good mix of different corners. Not like the old AVUS (for example), but for sure also not like the modern Tilke track with the only fast corners after a very slow corner, so you tan take it easy flat out.

  • @rockypupoxo
    @rockypupoxo 4 года назад +423

    They ruined Hockenheim when they changed it , some brilliant races in both F1 cars and on bikes .

    • @SCYN0
      @SCYN0 4 года назад +36

      Dont say they ruined it. It's still an insanely good track when u see the last 2 years were upon the best for centuries

    • @daijirokatoh3769
      @daijirokatoh3769 4 года назад +25

      Agree! It lost what made it Hockenheim

    • @carlcushmanhybels8159
      @carlcushmanhybels8159 4 года назад +12

      @@daijirokatoh3769 And they completely removed much of the old track, e.g, the 'Jim Clark' big sweeping turn.! I read there were German tax incentives to destroy it and plant trees and hay-grass.

    • @skandre7776
      @skandre7776 4 года назад +14

      @@SCYN0 because it was raining, old Hocke had its character and was unique in terms of car setup only second to Monza. Currently in F1 most tracks demand similar medium or high downforce what makes things easier

    • @rockypupoxo
      @rockypupoxo 4 года назад +22

      @@SCYN0 its more like a mickey mouse kart track now compared to how it use to be , just my opinion , but its no where as good as it was .

  • @waspassiertwenn8806
    @waspassiertwenn8806 4 года назад +162

    We miss the old Hockenheimring!

  • @arthurguitar
    @arthurguitar 4 года назад +139

    Hockenheimring was absolutely ruined. The length of the track meant you could have rain on one side and dry on the other. Wings basically at horizontal angles for straight line speed. They should never have changed it!

    • @betaorionis2164
      @betaorionis2164 4 года назад +9

      It was a great circuit: the nearly horizontal wings meant that the cars had very little downforce at the twisty Motodrom section, so it was tricky and mistakes were common.

    • @lenstrul5067
      @lenstrul5067 3 года назад +1

      I feel like they could convert that into a endurance track

    • @charlesklass4209
      @charlesklass4209 2 года назад +1

      Tilke only did what he did because the rest of the land was already sold to the local government, that's all he had to work with, and they wanted chicanes and massive runoffs too...crying shame but he did what he had to do

    • @dylanzrim3635
      @dylanzrim3635 2 года назад

      @@charlesklass4209 he was going to leave it original to the first chicane, then have a hairpin and a long straight to the senna chicane then as it is today... the local govt couldn’t even make that concession.

    • @WoddCar
      @WoddCar 2 года назад +1

      I think the newer circuit is better, but I think they should have kept the old layout for other divisions of racing

  • @veronviper06
    @veronviper06 4 года назад +109

    At least we can relive Rouen-les-Essarts, old spa, old Monza, old silverstone and old hokenheim in project cars 2

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 4 года назад +1

      I really wish the French 'Ring to be modernized and re-open, gosh by the few looks it was epic ! ;0)

    • @lordofkiwi5144
      @lordofkiwi5144 4 года назад +8

      @@poplaurentiu4148 It will not happen... our governement hate everything related to speed and noise. They want us all in 50hp electric car.

    • @Brandon-oi4fq
      @Brandon-oi4fq 3 года назад

      Yes

    • @casscroute8706
      @casscroute8706 3 года назад

      @@lordofkiwi5144 c'est assez dommage quand on se dit que c est les français qui ont inventé le sport auto

    • @saltbjorn
      @saltbjorn 3 года назад +1

      Wait Rouen is in pc2?

  • @IIGrayfoxII
    @IIGrayfoxII 4 года назад +70

    I remember the old Hockenheim Ring from Formula 1 on the PS1

    • @magnussencube
      @magnussencube 4 года назад +2

      IIGrayfoxII you could cut the chicanes and drive sectors 1 and 2 flatout

    • @napoleonbonaparte7172
      @napoleonbonaparte7172 3 года назад

      I play F1WGP on N64 i miss that track playing as Häkkinen and win races

    • @MrDavidbiohazard
      @MrDavidbiohazard 4 дня назад

      Its also on f1 2019

  • @paullindenfelser2323
    @paullindenfelser2323 4 года назад +108

    The Hockenheim with the blast through the woods was one of my favorite tracks. I still have VHS footage of Nigel Mansell bounding over the kerbs at the chicanes on his way to a fantastic qualifying lap. The new layout is completely uninspired.

    • @davidellis5135
      @davidellis5135 2 года назад +6

      On F1 2001 on the PS2 if you jumped start, drove your car into the tree section and stoped in the middle of the road about 50 yards before the first chicane, the Ai cars would plow into you and cause spectacular multiple pile ups with cars flipping everywhere . I did load's. sometimes reversing a little helped, I still have that game .

    • @obez42
      @obez42 2 года назад

      My favourite of all time

    • @n4s117
      @n4s117 Год назад +4

      World Superbike was the series to see at Hockenheim bfore F1 destroyed it.

    • @MisterMister5893
      @MisterMister5893 Год назад

      Still take the new layout over some of the newer tracks which have no memory/heritage. You could argue new tracks need time to develop heritage and a fanbase but some just flat out don't have the requisites to do so. Russia? Korea? I'll temper my criticism a bit as Korea did have some good corners but economics wasn't in their favour. I especially like Velancia which in a way had charm and died off far too soon. The bridge, the tight corners, it was different.

    • @dmitriyfadeev646
      @dmitriyfadeev646 Год назад +3

      The old Hockenheim was a great track, but races were not very interesting there. The fast cars ran away and there was not too much challenge. Monza has the same feature.

  • @alancommaille7789
    @alancommaille7789 4 года назад +75

    Really enjoy this format with commentary and a track map. Great!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +3

      Thank you. A new video in this style is in production.

    • @carlcushmanhybels8159
      @carlcushmanhybels8159 4 года назад +1

      Yes. I do wish the narrator/ producer would spend a bit of time (could be done on the phone) to learn and adopt correct French pronunciations. Rather than offhand mangled English ones.

  • @leroyrs
    @leroyrs 2 года назад +22

    I appreciate your passion for abandoned race tracks. You look at them and they still have the magic...What people did to the Hockenheimring is a shame. In 1992 I was there to see the F1 GP. (Senna, Berger, Mansell, Patrese, a young Schumacher) Never forget... in 1977 my parents took me to the old Nürburgring. I still regret for not having taken fotos with a cam. Even that this day was no race some training sessions of several touring cars were very amazing. I also remembered looking to the Südlurve and wondered what part of the Nordschleife that was and why no cars were driving there. I didn't know that this were the old Südschleife. Unfortunately I was too young to explore and my parents weren't intetested in more Nürburgring. Thx for your efforts to show us the abandoned tracks...Grüße aus Deutschland...

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  2 года назад +2

      Danke für das Teilen der Erinnerungen! Grüße aus den Niederlanden.

  • @clonmeliw
    @clonmeliw 4 года назад +16

    Thank you for the time and effort you put into this video. I've made many of those pilgrimages myself - my wife thought I was the only one crazy enough to do so - because I love the feeling of the historic fabric and hearing the voices of ghosts. It's a moving experience to be transported backward in time but bittersweet to see the utter disregard for what for many of us is hallowed ground. Nothing says we cherish and venerate the memories you gave us like the sound of a bulldozer!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +1

      Thank you. Now you can show you're wife you're not the only one :D Yes it's a bittersweet feeling exploring those abandoned circuits. On one side it's such a cool experience. On the other side it's motorsport history in decline.

  • @Katejsej
    @Katejsej 4 дня назад +1

    It is crazy how you visited all these countries.

  • @DanySahne85
    @DanySahne85 4 года назад +44

    I'm from Germany and at first I say sorry for my bad English.
    I knew the old Hockenheimring very well, I was born not far from there. I must say that it don't like the new Hockenheimring because of the changing of the atmosphere. In the past there was a atmosphere like a stadium. Sure, the fans don't saw their hero's very often because one lap was very long. But the speed on the track was very high and the races where so spectacular because of the high-speed. The new layout (i think Hermann Tilke is one reason for that) is nearly boring. A typical Tilke-Track... I don't like it.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +9

      Yes Tilke designed the new section of Hockenheim, but he's not resonsible for the destruction of the old track. However, I don't like his designs neiter. They all have the same components, he copy pasted the corners from track 1 to track 2, 3 and so on. And most fast corners are after a very slow corner, so they are easy full throttle.

    • @Ahsan-pm3nj
      @Ahsan-pm3nj 3 года назад

      Circuits of the past he only did some little tweaks to his track designs (placement, elevation changes, etc.) but still made it boring lol

    • @DJLauth
      @DJLauth 3 года назад +2

      They should save up money, find a sponser like RedBull, and invest in making the old section drivable again.
      But it will surely cost loads of money.

    • @Ahsan-pm3nj
      @Ahsan-pm3nj 3 года назад +1

      @@DJLauth they actually remade the track due to their own initiative. They know that track will be forgotten due to how simple the track is and feared that the track would be considered dull. But WHY they chose Tilke to design it?

    • @DJLauth
      @DJLauth 3 года назад

      @@Ahsan-pm3nj I know. Something about not selling tickets in the forrest section, was the official statement to remake the track, if i remember right.

  • @dowhillsta
    @dowhillsta 4 года назад +6

    I remember playing f1 challenge 99-02 , and then in the 99 season racing at the old hockenheim , I was impress on how long the track was .

  • @gosportjamie
    @gosportjamie 4 года назад +7

    It was Kieth Odor, also known as Kieth O'dor who died at Avus. He was the son of Jan Odor who started Janspeed. He was a very talented touring car driver who drove the rapid, but under-funded and under-developed Janspeed Nissans in the BTCC to some surprising results, considering the manufacturer power and spending they were up against, and were probably responsible for Nissan running a full, manufacturer funded team in the BTCC later in the '90s...

  • @christophermathern6796
    @christophermathern6796 4 года назад +12

    Great video. It makes me sad to see this being forgotten but I thank you for keeping the past alive

  • @fw0756
    @fw0756 2 года назад +6

    Very enjoyable to see the old spa track ,dangerous and spectacular at the same time,no words can properly express the skill and daring the drivers of that era showed.🇦🇺👍

  • @stevesolo16
    @stevesolo16 4 года назад +7

    Wonderful historic information. This insight goes to prove, to build truly great tracks, the whole town has to be behind it. In the U.S. it's all private money, and that doesn't leave us with enough large, new road courses. Here, we run inside an oval and up onto the banking. These are fun, but are a lot of the samething. These Euro tracks have a beauty unto each of them.

  • @TheSurlySoutherner
    @TheSurlySoutherner 4 года назад +64

    F1 should go back to Charade, looks a wonderful track and very picturesque, anything is better than the eye sore and bore fest that is Paul Ricard circuit!
    Very interesting video.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +4

      Thank you. Charade would be a more technical track than Paul Ricard. On the other side, it would be more difficult to overtake there, and the safety could also be an issue. So maybe they would require adjustments that would ruin Charade.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 4 года назад +2

      @@Circuitsofthepast TV coverage would be all but impossible too.

  • @DFN86
    @DFN86 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for the video, my dad was a big F1 nut and many summer holidays were spent visiting these tracks (with my dad pushing his Renault 19 past the legal limit on the left over tracks/public sections). Have fond memories of exploring the grandstand at Reims-Gueux and have spent ages trying to find out where it was!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  3 года назад

      Thanks for sharing this story. Good to hear there are more people like me :D

  • @Wingyy1995
    @Wingyy1995 4 года назад +16

    surprised Südschleife wasn't on the list
    but guess F1 didn't really race that part of the track

  • @theoanderson3575
    @theoanderson3575 4 года назад +190

    Rest in Peace Anthoine Hubert 💔🙏🏼

  • @zanclod
    @zanclod 4 года назад +6

    Excellent video and commentaries. It's very interesting to rediscover these old circuits

  • @wschell4023
    @wschell4023 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for a great RUclips video. We took in some racing at Monza September 2018. Luckily found the tunnel to the infield for a great experience. While your video extends to present day I couldn’t determine how the old track relates to current track.

  • @MultiCOOLFRESH
    @MultiCOOLFRESH 4 года назад +7

    Amazing work and really good investiagations on these tracks. Keep it up :)
    MCF

  • @lowproscrumbum
    @lowproscrumbum 4 года назад +13

    Love the old Scirocco!

  • @DYNANiK.official
    @DYNANiK.official 3 года назад +2

    05:34 cool to see the beauty is coming back to some old circuits

  • @dutchsailor6620
    @dutchsailor6620 4 года назад +4

    I remember racing the Nivelles circuit very well. It was in the beginning of the eighties and we were competing some races in the Dutch national competition series after a previous year with to many lethal accidents on Dutch road circuits (think Man style including curbs trees and houses to spice things up a little). Even then the buildings surrounding the track were almost falling apart and trees were growing in the grandstands. Track surface was horrible with the bike (Z900 based) bouncing around and understeering in the great loop. Those were the days my friends......

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад

      Bedankt voor het delen van dit verhaal. Ik heb ook gehoord dat ze in die tijd voor de afwisseling het circuit tegengesteld reden. Ik heb er zelfs een foto van. Die kun je hier zien: www.circuitsofthepast.nl/nl-NL/nivelles

    • @dutchsailor6620
      @dutchsailor6620 4 года назад +2

      @@Circuitsofthepast : That's right, the circuit itself wasn't very challenging except for the big loop (it just kept going on and on and on...), but because of the wide runoff areas and the possibility to ride the circuit in two directions combined with adding or leaving out chicanes you could drive a different kind of track every weekend. I only remember driving the track clockwise direction. Another tricky thing of the circuit was that you mostly heated up your slicks on the right side (driving clockwise) but leaving the big loop you needed all the grip you could get on the left side of the tires to accelerate out of the 130 degrees lefthander that followed. Some exciting memories there.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад

      I drove it only by car, but I remember the exit of the Big Loop. The short straight was just long enough to switch from the left to the right side and brake for the left-hander.

  • @chrisbaker2903
    @chrisbaker2903 2 года назад +3

    I remember attending races at Riverside Raceway in Southern California. IMHO it was a great track as good as any in Europe. It was a fully complete track and had been raced on for years and years. It's now a housing tract. That sucks.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  2 года назад +2

      I agree, Riverside was a great track. In 2012 I visited the location. Unfortunately nothing reminds to the motorsport past of the site. See also this video: ruclips.net/video/RGNToJaUhXU/видео.html

    • @bloqk16
      @bloqk16 Год назад +1

      The aspect I loved about Riverside was the ability of the drivers to go 'wheel to wheel' with competitors; unlike Laguna Seca, that while it is in a picturesque setting, sees race lead changes happen due to pit stops.

  • @luclaan8165
    @luclaan8165 4 года назад +4

    I love these videos. There is a chill vibe around them.

  • @SCYN0
    @SCYN0 4 года назад +4

    Just wow. The effort and the story behind each track is really really interesting. Great RUclipsr. Found a new Sub :)

  • @philiptownsend4026
    @philiptownsend4026 Год назад

    That was an excellent and very interesting production. Nostalgic emotions in play now. Thank you so much.

  • @Peasmouldia
    @Peasmouldia 4 года назад +39

    Loss of the old Hock was a particular shame for me and other F1 fans here in Wiltshire as some teams would test their aero and gearing for the Hock here at Kevill Airfield.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +2

      Yes it was a good aternation of the calendar, even if it was not a technical circuit. Interesting information about Kevill Airfield. Thanks!

    • @GUNNERSIGHTZEROED
      @GUNNERSIGHTZEROED 4 года назад +1

      Is that an incorrect spelling of Keevil?

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +2

      @@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED I think so. I never heard about it untill Ian told me about it here. But after paste it into Google I learned it should be Keevil.

    • @Peasmouldia
      @Peasmouldia 4 года назад

      @@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED You are quite correct, I could probably misspell my own name. As to the testing, many F1 fans would show up for the tests as the engine noise could be heard for miles. A Renault V10 F1 engine is pretty distinctive!

    • @Peasmouldia
      @Peasmouldia 4 года назад +1

      @@Circuitsofthepast Your right, I've lived here 50yrs+, so no excuse other than idiocy! Just an extra piece of information, at one of the Williams tests (1998 I think) the driver was some kid called Juan Pablo Montoya. Wonder what became of him?

  • @glauberbelo9602
    @glauberbelo9602 4 года назад +1

    You did a great job doing this video man 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @CFS08
    @CFS08 4 года назад +5

    Great video, sad to see Hockenheim on first place but I totally agree.
    I remember watching Rubens Barrichello’s first win there in 2000 in a crazy rainy race. It broke my heart to see what they did to the circuit in 2002, an amazing and unique track was transformed into a regular and boring one.
    Glad they still make the classic circuit in games (not only Hockenheim) so we can have a shot of those good times.

    • @yoshikempenaers8621
      @yoshikempenaers8621 4 года назад

      Nostalgia is a strange thing... The races on the old track were actually very boring

    • @CFS08
      @CFS08 4 года назад

      Joske78 I agree somehow but I believe they were relatively boring because of the huge mechanical and technological gaps between the teams.

    • @yoshikempenaers8621
      @yoshikempenaers8621 4 года назад

      @@CFS08 Maybe you're right. All I can say is I personally find it a little tedious running long races on sims because of the (maybe to) long straights.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +3

      I have also mixed feelings about the old track. It was absolutely not a great track as many fans claim. However, it was good for the alternation on the calendar. And what they did to the track is a shame and it was unneccesary. The old track may have been unpopular by most drivers and a little boring. On the other side it was an unique track with it's contrast between the woods and the stadium. Now they replaced the historic part of the track by an average modern section.

    • @CFS08
      @CFS08 4 года назад +2

      Circuits of the past Yes that’s exactly what I mean. It didn’t produce super exciting races but the track was unique. My nostalgia is much more about the circuit rather than the races.

  • @AlconburyBlues
    @AlconburyBlues Год назад

    I love those shots of the classic Monza banking. One of my favorite GP tracks.

  • @6591del
    @6591del 4 года назад +8

    I love them old (proper) race circuits especially Hockenheim....think I`ll dig out the old Play Station and have a blast around it in a Ferrari, thanks for posting this I found it just by chance.

  • @W00000000000000
    @W00000000000000 4 года назад +1

    That was an incredibly informative video,
    Enjoyed massively

  • @lepicvert1087
    @lepicvert1087 4 года назад +3

    I come from Clermont-Ferrand, so I know well the Charade's circuit. The deleted part is my sandbox when I ride my motobike. It is a big pleasure to discover other old F1 circuits. Thanks a lot !

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад

      You're welcome! Yes it was big fun to drve the old part of the Clermont-Ferrand circuit. Especially the fast banked corner (15:11) before the long climb, where I overtake that slow driving car :)

  • @rickyprice7586
    @rickyprice7586 4 года назад +3

    Very good and interesting video. I have visited the old banking at monza myself a few years ago. The history is amazing

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +1

      Thank you!

    • @rickyprice7586
      @rickyprice7586 4 года назад

      Two years ago I also visited imola to see ayrton sennas memorial. What a place

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Год назад +1

    WONDERFUL video.
    I really appreciate the effort you have put into it.
    Thank you.

  • @pilotthomas144
    @pilotthomas144 2 года назад

    Super vidéo! Really love it! Thanks !

  • @nathaliestarlight6372
    @nathaliestarlight6372 4 года назад +1

    The voiceover kept me watching this ❤

  • @mustang10141980
    @mustang10141980 4 года назад +1

    I just discovered this video. Great work sir! Instantly subscribed!

  • @antoinegruner2327
    @antoinegruner2327 3 года назад +1

    Amazing video - keep going. it's history there. twice more interesting than BBC pre race track info... you learn more here than anywhere else.

  • @thehooks3065
    @thehooks3065 4 года назад

    Fascinating video. Well done!

  • @beetesjuice
    @beetesjuice 4 года назад

    Thanks for the update!

  • @FlyBoyGrounded
    @FlyBoyGrounded 2 года назад

    I love this kind of thing. Thanks for posting!

  • @user-vq8pj7rw5k
    @user-vq8pj7rw5k 4 года назад +1

    Thank you very much for your content. good luck with your channel

  • @ernestogasulla7763
    @ernestogasulla7763 Год назад +2

    Awesome video, thanks. One comment; Montjuich does not qualify as "abandoned". It was a street track, and all the streets that formed it are still there in pretty good condition. Of course, it's crazy dangerous for today's standards, and having the dedicated Catalunya race track nearby there's zero chances it could ever be raced again. But it would be doable.

  • @dylanzrim3635
    @dylanzrim3635 2 года назад +1

    Hockenheim was the beginning of the FIA changing tracks. Though the track management were the ones who commissioned the work, it was that work which started the trend of altering tracks, and the FIA just happened to choose the same guy

  • @knowlesy3915
    @knowlesy3915 4 года назад

    Thank you that Mayor of Rheims & the trust, it looks great & I wish more places honoured their former tracks better. (when possible)

  • @alexxconroy
    @alexxconroy 4 года назад

    So cool. Thanks for this

  • @iainmcintosh9068
    @iainmcintosh9068 3 года назад +1

    Tremendous upload , the good old days before health and safety took hold , was surprised how steep the bankig was at the old Monza is & Avus was even steeper, Epic .

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  3 года назад

      Sitges-Terramar had the steepest banking, 66 degrees! Here a video with 5 steep bankings: ruclips.net/video/fDrAoLEmo5M/видео.html
      This video also need a remake with the AVUS included.

    • @firenerf2197
      @firenerf2197 3 года назад

      @@Circuitsofthepast THE STEEPEST BANKING IS AT SITGGS-TRREAMAR?! Man! I did NOT notice that!

  • @thetruth7633
    @thetruth7633 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks, on Google Earth you can see the old lay-outs more clear in the past (using time stamps). Hockenheim old layout is still there in 10/2000.

  • @Lebenslicht_eu
    @Lebenslicht_eu Год назад

    Really nice presentation! Thank you.

  • @vheggem
    @vheggem 4 года назад +3

    Great job as usual.

  • @SnowdriftBoy
    @SnowdriftBoy 4 года назад +1

    This is a beautiful channel!👏😊

  • @kevinnash851
    @kevinnash851 4 года назад

    Really a good video.... I appreciate your efforts for the videos

  • @EstebanGarciaPress
    @EstebanGarciaPress 4 года назад +7

    Very good video! So sad what happened with original Hockenheim layout, it was one of my favourite circuits

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +1

      Thanks. Actually the version we now call old Hockenheim was the third version. The original version was the triangular street circuit. However, I agree they shouldn't butcher the old section through the woods. That was the only remain of the original layout and gave the track it's unique character.

    • @davefloyd9443
      @davefloyd9443 Год назад

      Jim Clark chicane, approached at full speed was what prompted Schwantz's infamous. 'Wait until you see God, then brake', technique description.

  • @snakeoilaudio
    @snakeoilaudio Год назад +3

    What's IMO most interesting about these old tracks (even those that still exist like Monza or Hockenheim) is that back in the days they were basically straight lines and had just very few sharp corners or banked corners. That means that the divers of those times had even less influence than they have today because with these kinds of tracks, whoever has the most powerful engine wins.

    • @bloqk16
      @bloqk16 Год назад

      The powerful engine aspect was on full-display at the 1967 Italian Grand Prix with Jim Clark driving the Lotus 49 with the Cosworth DFV engine.
      A flat tire had him falling wwwaaayyy back; only to have him go through the field and build up a 30 second lead going into the last lap, only to lose with his car running out of fuel.
      That was a full-display of how dominant the DFV engine was in 1967 when nothing broke in that Lotus.
      The advantages the Brabham team had in 1967 was the the lightness of the car and engine reliability.

  • @michelp976
    @michelp976 4 года назад

    Thank you so much for your videos!

  • @ktmpasser
    @ktmpasser 2 года назад

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @Benjamin_Jehne
    @Benjamin_Jehne 4 года назад +4

    Can‘t forget those screaming engines at Hockenheim in the 90s. I loved that track. I don’t watch races on the new version of the track. It’s a horrible, dead race track like most of the Tielke-tracks. His only good race track is Sepang.

  • @JanBinnendijk
    @JanBinnendijk 4 года назад +3

    Great Video!.. I really like the old circuits.. I've been on the Nordschleife, Francorchamps and one day i sneaked through a fence to ride on the old part of Zandvoort..from the top of Hunzerug all the way to Tunnel Oost..
    also.. i've ridden Santamonica in Italy when it was still counterclockwise..
    The Local roads around Francorchamps still make you feel like you're on a racetrack..
    Also, i've driven some of these tracks in the "Grand Prix Legends" Game.. and Nivelles is quite a challenge..

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад

      Bedankt. Ik ben in 1989 vlak na de opening van het interim-circuit van Zandvoort ook eens vanaf het parkeerterrein het oude gedeelte opgereden. Eerst tegengesteld naar de hekken op de Hunserug (niet Hunzerug) en toen terug naar het Bos Uit. Aanvankelijk had ik nog aardig de gang er in, maar bij het Scheivlak liep een vrouw met haar hondje te wandelen. Toen besloot ik toch maar wat langzamer te rijden.
      Later toen het bungalowpark er stond kon je nog via een woonwijk de baan op, vlak voor waar ooit de Panoramabocht was. Maar al gauw hadden ze Tunnel Oost eruit gehaald en gebruikten ze een deel van het oude circuit als woonwagenkamp.

  • @billfunk3168
    @billfunk3168 4 года назад

    Enjoyed your video !

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад

      Thank you! Good to read that you enjoyed the video :)

  • @vefos09h85
    @vefos09h85 4 года назад

    Very cool and interesting video. Keep going👍

  • @YuriBruschi
    @YuriBruschi 4 года назад +8

    With Simon's comment on the images, the video is truly cultural!

    • @HigherPlainGames
      @HigherPlainGames 4 года назад +3

      Let's hope I said all the names correctly haha :)

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +2

      Actually no hahaha ;) But the audience understands what you mean.

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers 4 года назад

    Fascinating video, thank you.

  • @sbatty65227
    @sbatty65227 2 года назад

    Used to love F1 at the old Hockenheim circuit. The blast through the woods was ace to watch.

  • @TracksideViews
    @TracksideViews 10 месяцев назад

    I drove around the original (pre permanent track) course through Watkins Glen last year and it was amazing to think racing took place on those roads. I can only imagine that’s how some of these feel when driving on them.

  • @Rackhage
    @Rackhage 4 года назад +3

    Nice video! Thanks!

  • @georgemaycock3201
    @georgemaycock3201 3 года назад

    Great video!

  • @searchforthelight.3287
    @searchforthelight.3287 Год назад

    I love these small, abandoned sections, that they not even used for public roads. Thickly surrounded by all these bushes and trees!
    So old...so peaceful and quiet...

  • @contracultura4111
    @contracultura4111 4 года назад +1

    Real cool video. Thanks.

  • @markoarkaina8656
    @markoarkaina8656 4 года назад

    Really interesting, you've just earned a sub.

  • @lexuslfaguy3758
    @lexuslfaguy3758 4 года назад +5

    I love your channel about historical race track for f1 & other motorsports

  • @Kiba520
    @Kiba520 10 месяцев назад

    Very nice Video. Thx!!

  • @wobbler6372
    @wobbler6372 4 года назад +6

    Great video . Watched the whole thing . Hockenheim change was the biggest shame in f1 track history . Just think how much money they would be making now if they have kept it for historic races

  • @RC-tn7qs
    @RC-tn7qs 2 года назад

    Very great video ; so thank's ! And for the tracks abandoned by the Fomula 1 ; there is (about my house, but who receive now the France Lorry Race : Charade - Clermont-Ferrand) ; & Jackie Stewart say : "It's the world's best circuit". Friendly Circuits of the past

  • @nickandrew1089
    @nickandrew1089 2 года назад

    Would've liked to have seen the old Crystal Palace & Aintree circuits mentioned & shown on this post.
    Maybe you could do another video to include those historical circuits.
    Very interesting video though, thanks for posting.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  2 года назад

      I visited both in 2018. Here the video's: ruclips.net/video/s-GshhwG2Ec/видео.html
      This top 10 is more from the urbex perspective. Maybe I make another top 10 where these circuits are shown/

  • @shayneramsay1388
    @shayneramsay1388 4 года назад +5

    The old Hockenheim was a brilliant track and my favorite on my F1 gaming calendar even being Australian I preferred it over the Adelaide and the newer Albert Park in Melbourne

    • @shayneramsay1388
      @shayneramsay1388 4 года назад

      @Cini minis I remember hearing about Port Wakefield but never really saw anything of the track or what it was even shaped like

  • @Aesh-om2sz
    @Aesh-om2sz 4 года назад +1

    I clicked on the vid because of the Scirocco but stayed for the beautifully well done video.
    Keep up the good work

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +1

      Thanks! Yes that was my silver VW Scirocco, when I visited Nivelles for the first and second time. Later I had another Scirocco and a Corrado.

    • @Aesh-om2sz
      @Aesh-om2sz 4 года назад +1

      @@Circuitsofthepast Very lovely cars.
      My current Scirocco looks exactly like your old one :)

  • @wernerschneider4460
    @wernerschneider4460 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting for a motorsports-buff like me. Great work.

  • @GrrMeister
    @GrrMeister 4 года назад +7

    11:10 *Belgian GP Circuit 1961 - I remember this well, after watching the Grand Prix Race sitting within inches of the track at Malmedy, after the road reopened did a circuit in my then Car the Fabulous Citroën DS19 and was absolutely amazed how quick they got around the track, I had to change down gears at many of the steep uphill sections. There looked to be a Thunderstorm Brewing so decided to leave and drove all night with my mates quietly sleeping away to Salzburg (no 3) where I had no idea of a Race Track being there, but bought an amusing metal plaque "Actung Sheifer Hund" I still have it today as have two Chihuahuas !*

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for sharing your story. In the 90's I visited the Belgian GP too. After the race the track went also open for traffic those day's. So in the evening I went back and drove some laps on the old track. And sometimes also on the new section, but this was actually illegal. In 2017 I visited the Salzburgring and made this slow onboard: ruclips.net/video/fXVlx4WDPRI/видео.html

  • @obez42
    @obez42 2 года назад +2

    Reconstruction and abandonment in 2002 of the old Hockenheim circuit with the high speed sections through the forest was and is a travesty and is one of the biggest acts of wanton butchery in history of motorsport…
    Still miss my favourite track of all time today…

  • @f1matt
    @f1matt 4 года назад

    Really interesting video!

  • @carsyoungtimerfreak1149
    @carsyoungtimerfreak1149 Год назад

    Top video! Dank je wel!

  • @Pluvillion
    @Pluvillion 4 года назад +15

    *_"The gate of Nivelles inspired him in 2003 to start a website about lost circuits._*
    *_The name?_*
    *_“Circuits of the Past!”"_*
    And with that, I immediately tapped on the subscribe button with no hesitation. That actually made me smile, not gonna lie.

  • @Zamppa86
    @Zamppa86 4 года назад +17

    The current Tilke-Hockenheim is not Hockenheim. It's so far from the original and the most well known version with the long straigths through the woods with chicanes. Oh how I miss the 90s when Formula 1 cars sounded like race cars and screamed through the woods. The current Hockenheim and the current cars that sound more like vacuum cleaners are so boring compared to that.
    Thanks for the awesome video by the way! I did not know France had so many fancy looking tracks. It actually makes me wonder even more why the current French GP is on Paul Rickard which is also a very boring track. I would love to see Magny-Cours return...

  • @lionelrosiere2062
    @lionelrosiere2062 4 года назад +4

    Reims in France or Charade in my region with a ancient wall near the golf of Manson.

  • @lauscho
    @lauscho 4 года назад +4

    Frankly, having those old layouts of Hockenheimring, Spa-Francorchamps and Monza (as well as a couple other classic track layouts like the 60s version of Silverstone) is one of my favourite things about Project Cars 2!

  • @collectionmicsej3374
    @collectionmicsej3374 4 года назад +1

    Good job , thanks from France !

  • @FlavioSpirit
    @FlavioSpirit 4 года назад +5

    Que dor no meu coração ver esses templos da velocidade, abandonados dessa maneira......
    Muito triste......
    Mas muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal......
    Abraço do Brasil......

  • @eddherring4972
    @eddherring4972 4 года назад +65

    The word for Hockenheim is emasculated

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 года назад +15

      Or travesty. That's what I also heard many times about Hockenheim.

    • @ilikestuffandstuff4127
      @ilikestuffandstuff4127 4 года назад

      De-balled.

    • @incorectulpolitic
      @incorectulpolitic 4 года назад

      just like married men and men in relationshits...

    • @willb3486
      @willb3486 3 года назад

      @@incorectulpolitic sounds like you can't find yourself a woman

  • @lukass.6609
    @lukass.6609 4 года назад

    The Österreich Ring reminds of the the Salzburgring layout , with that first chicane and the fast banked corners.

  • @ccrider3435
    @ccrider3435 Год назад +1

    1:38 VW Rabbits?
    Great Vid Thx!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  Год назад +1

      You're welcome. There are always many rabits at Nivelles. Check also the latest video from Nivelles: ruclips.net/video/ymh1iQlJjfk/видео.html

  • @ronny_doeschner
    @ronny_doeschner 2 года назад +1

    i like the new Hockenheimring! Fast Straights, slow and fast corners and the Rico Anthes Quartermile 😍

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  2 года назад

      I drove at Hockenheim and I can tell you it's the easiest track to learn I ever have driven. The only corner which is a bit of a challenge is the first corner. It's one of the two fast corners, the other one is where you enter the Motodrom again. The kink between the hairpin and the chicane is easy full throttle, so no real corner.

  • @dewetloots1709
    @dewetloots1709 4 года назад

    Thanx for the adds
    Can't wait to watch all the other adds

  • @daperturedan3454
    @daperturedan3454 2 года назад +1

    I remember watching short course truck racing on TV as a kid and the commentator kept saying “SUPRISE ARIZONA!!” Fast forward 9 years and I got called on a mission to that area but I couldnt find any raceways on google maps. One day I was driving down the road on the outskirts of town and saw some lucas oil flags waving and realized this was the same place. We found a way in and drove our way around the tattered circuit in our Frontier. The podium was still there so of course we got photos on it. Its a fulfilling memory but it’s so heartbraking to see something so cool and amazing get overgrown and ruined

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  2 года назад +1

      I recognize that double feeling. It is very cool to visit an abandoned race track. But as a motorsport fan, it's sad at the same time.

  • @stereotype.6377
    @stereotype.6377 4 года назад +1

    What’s the name of the song used in the outro?