@@PhysicsNerd25 the thing is, theory is the easy part, actually playing is stressful. I recently got to AoE after many years, tried an online game with berbers and got wrecked...after the game I realized that in all that commotion I completely forgot to upgrade husbnadry and bloodlines :D
@@JamalMI all of that is part of the game though. It is stressful to play a real online game, especially if your opponent is similar to or above your skill level, but it's still better to know what you're supposed to do in different situations than to not know. That way you can learn much more from your replays. It feels like a 300% boost in efficiency compared to just blindly playing games.
@@PhysicsNerd25 I agree, I was just pointing out that you can know the whole theory of the game, but without enough games under your belt you can easily forget the basics and do silly mistakes like I did :D
I still wonder what T90Official would think would make Sicilians more appealing other than what he describes as just 'another knight civ' since the new unique tech was added. I've been a hard time figuring it out myself. My first thoughts were to have the Serjeants have a greater role in being a strange militia/villager hybrid, and have them be able to repair other structures or even siege weapons (and not just build/repair donjons). The high farm count and the anti-counter elements of the civilization are really nice on paper and work a lot as a defensive civ, it would be pretty nice if that was looked at. I'd personally remove the First Crusader's current tech function of +7 per TC (although not the resistance bonus, that is pretty nice for the civilization). Since the First Crusaders first started with peasents that came (and failed as the response, it would be nice if the Serjeants were changed to be able to repair other structures/siege units instead of just the Donjon. Would probably be a great benefit and a reason for many to go Serjeant instead of just Cavalier or last-ditch 35 Serjeants when at 200 Pop. Especially useful since Serjeants have more armour and don't flee like villagers do when attacked. Also had a different separate idea of having the Sicilians be AoE3 French; by having the Sicilians have the Unique tech Serjeantry that either A) Allowed it so that Villagers can drop off resources at Donjons or Castles, B) Allows Serjeants to collect resources like villagers (since their role in feudal times was pretty much doing stuff as a specialist commoner for the royalty), or C) Both. Thought that would be really funny. The last of the ideas was to have a unique tech where all units that are about to die first reach 1 HP instead of 0 HP as a last-ditch rebuttal before hitting 0 once damaged at 1 HP. A reference to their resilience and the funny quote from Princess Bride "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!". But a number of changes could change the civilization for better or worse.
@@Krissieo Me too. Although considering a lot of units can often be easily killed by certain units (siege dying to bombards, infantry/archers being one-hit by siege onagers, cavalier being killed by halberdiers real fast), I'm sure that the mechanic would be quite impactful. Also make demo ship strats against Sicilians 'less' efficient in a number of ways. Would impact water battles of Sicilians Galleys/Fireships (even Sicilian Demos) in a unique way where more Demo Ships or added firepower would be needed. That and the infamous demos killing land units would be less explosive.
Perhaps instead of the 7-per-TC (and in addition to resistance) First Crusade could give Serjeants the ability to repair buildings/ siege units, possibly the ability to build castles too, and possibly slightly upgrade Donjon HP. The synergy would make it more useful and less insta-35-troops. I don't like the villager idea- feels like it would fundamentally alter the workflow in a very non-AoE2 way. The HP idea could work, but could also be quite busted, just by virtue of turning one-shots into two-shots. It might be less OP if it applied only to buildings and/or certain units (vills maybe)?
That last idea sounds absurd. I've watched my Spirit of the Law, I know how significant your units surviving just one more hit can be, and that's on literally every single unit for every single matchup in the game? Completely busted.
@@foreverjune8 I think people underestimate the extra range. Having 5, 6 steppe lances hitting at the same time does some serious damage. They're even decent against buildings because of that in my experience
I always play mongols, but this afternoon for the first time I gave a shoot to the steppe lancers.... it fail 😂 I'll check that video with great interest so :p
Is it the steppe lancers or is it the Mongol bonus on this map? I think using any unit with advantages would have resulted in a win. The pressure would give him the ability to collect all 5 relics. I saw this as a mismatch when I saw the civs and the map.
You know looking at the t90 titans logo I feel its a missed opportunity that you called the silver gold and platinum leage instead of knight, chavalier and paladin league...
at some point t90 has to realize that the ca ui actually shows the amount of resources left on his selection...there was some 3.8k food not 2k @11:57 ... wouldn't have mentioned but its been like this for so long lol
Tatar SL are definitely better against Xbows when you get silk armor and chain barded armor. With that +3 pierce armor castle age Tatar SL can actually dive under TCs and castles
Maybe would've been good for stark to go serjeants once he had the donjon and castle.. Maybe those would've been enough to snipe the mangos and would've been ok at tanking the SL while xbows did damage. While it's fair that Mongol SL are strongest, you really shouldn't discount Cuman SL. If you have good eco you can get stupid stable numbers on the way up to castle and make a lot of them really quickly. Moreover, Cuman steppes are faster (I think). I get that it makes sense to compare SL to knights, but they really are a different unit and probably not fully figured out.
Every time I play Age, I want to go Lancer. They say it’s because my brain has cancer. All my life I’ve been waiting for , praying for a mounted Kamyuk that can spear the heads of those nerfing devs upon the steppes their eyes will spy the lancer guy. Lancer guy will make you cry because no counter stops the pokey boi. It’s not just that I like long spears, but underdogs bring me tears.
I think they really should rebalance the unit. They overnerfed them after making them OP at the start. Especially for Cumans. I also think Huns and Magyars had to get them too.
And maybe Persians and/or Turks. They should aim at giving them a specific role, like raiding. +3/+6 Attack vs. Villagers and Tradecarts and +0/+1 Pierce Armor (for Standard/Elite) combined with being available for more civs is enough for that.
Hey t90, our tournament organizer and main caster is busy for the next 2 weeks. Would you consider casting a few of our games? Our tournament is the *Rookie Rivals* . It's like literally a low elo legend tournament, how about that? (to be fair, it's actually more low elo into mid elo) What do you think?
Mongols have 98hp after bloodlines, 111 for elite. The others have 80hp, 90 for elite. Mongols have arguably the best steppe lancers in castle, but the worst in imperial
They lack the final armor but have more HP, so "worst" is maybe not right/situational. Against ranged units maybe, against pike/halbs I'd prefer Mongol steppe-lancers
yo, just wanted to say I love the gold games just because these gold players are usually the guys looking to make a name for themselves and its cool to see new players! thx for the content
Andies use of steplancers is not an issue, it is his ill advised manoeuvres ,splitting them up at the worst time instead of keeping them together and decimating the Sicilian army first that caused him shaky issues.
You trash Steppe Lancers a lot, but in my opinion, they're brilliant. Stack them up and drop them on the enemy with a few knights tucked in and they dominate melee battles. They even perform well against halbs if the numbers stacked.
I feel like CA has to be the counter mixed with crossbows Lancers seem geared for fighting knights more than archers, with their range and speed, just hit and run style
@@MrJacobhobbs i got it working. the game sucked. I play HD edition, its fantastic. absolutely hated the voobly gameplay, graphics, lack of mouse scrolling, hotkeys, all a downgrade from the vanilla versions of the game. truly.
It just makes me vomit to see those "ultra smart, unpredictable" tactics like going archers with Sicilians... I pray for more Huskarls, Shriwnamsassaaasas, Ghulams to get rid of these pesky NO FOOD requiring, shoot and move one step, bunching together in one square cm rats, so happy devs are moving in the right direction to get rid of this cancer.
@@SaturatedCat I don't know, but with all the archer talk and the counter talk to them, I'm pretty sure that he is obviously talking about the Scorpion Cancer within the game
@@SaturatedCat archer mechanics makes this game much worse than it would be otherwise. I basically get an orgasm when my Ghulams rek 30+ x-bows in 5 seconds.
Some of his pictures and titles are a bit clickbaity But in this case it's always interesting to see an underutilized unit I don't think he meant "this will redefine the meta," I took it as "could this possibly be a feasible way to play on the ladder." so the title works.
Hi T90, I am loving the TTL! Brilliant. 👍💎 I hope that you are very happy with how it has started and I'm sure it will go from strength to strength. Congrats to you and the T90 Team for getting it off the ground! 😇 I feel the need, the need for SIEGE! 🤗 (With apologies to the original TOP GUN... 😁) M 🦘🏏😎
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I came for the mounted pointi bois, i stay for the big woods.
Having not watched it yet and seeing this I am very excited to see how this plays out
Morning wood
Thanks to T90's pieces of advice through the years, today I managed to beat the hardest AI for the first time. I'm a noob, improving however.
If you get a chance, Hera_aoc makes really good tutorials where he explains everything.
@@PhysicsNerd25 the thing is, theory is the easy part, actually playing is stressful. I recently got to AoE after many years, tried an online game with berbers and got wrecked...after the game I realized that in all that commotion I completely forgot to upgrade husbnadry and bloodlines :D
@@JamalMI all of that is part of the game though. It is stressful to play a real online game, especially if your opponent is similar to or above your skill level, but it's still better to know what you're supposed to do in different situations than to not know. That way you can learn much more from your replays. It feels like a 300% boost in efficiency compared to just blindly playing games.
@@PhysicsNerd25 I agree, I was just pointing out that you can know the whole theory of the game, but without enough games under your belt you can easily forget the basics and do silly mistakes like I did :D
Step Lancer I'm stuck !
Step Lancer : "I think my long spear can reach in there."
"Here you go, there's your big wood"
- T90 Pillow Talk
A real ladies man
and behind all that, Andy stole all five relics... hope to see more of him and more steppe lancers, they look so cool
I still wonder what T90Official would think would make Sicilians more appealing other than what he describes as just 'another knight civ' since the new unique tech was added.
I've been a hard time figuring it out myself. My first thoughts were to have the Serjeants have a greater role in being a strange militia/villager hybrid, and have them be able to repair other structures or even siege weapons (and not just build/repair donjons). The high farm count and the anti-counter elements of the civilization are really nice on paper and work a lot as a defensive civ, it would be pretty nice if that was looked at.
I'd personally remove the First Crusader's current tech function of +7 per TC (although not the resistance bonus, that is pretty nice for the civilization). Since the First Crusaders first started with peasents that came (and failed as the response, it would be nice if the Serjeants were changed to be able to repair other structures/siege units instead of just the Donjon. Would probably be a great benefit and a reason for many to go Serjeant instead of just Cavalier or last-ditch 35 Serjeants when at 200 Pop. Especially useful since Serjeants have more armour and don't flee like villagers do when attacked.
Also had a different separate idea of having the Sicilians be AoE3 French; by having the Sicilians have the Unique tech Serjeantry that either A) Allowed it so that Villagers can drop off resources at Donjons or Castles, B) Allows Serjeants to collect resources like villagers (since their role in feudal times was pretty much doing stuff as a specialist commoner for the royalty), or C) Both. Thought that would be really funny.
The last of the ideas was to have a unique tech where all units that are about to die first reach 1 HP instead of 0 HP as a last-ditch rebuttal before hitting 0 once damaged at 1 HP. A reference to their resilience and the funny quote from Princess Bride "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!".
But a number of changes could change the civilization for better or worse.
That last tech is real funny, I wonder how impactful that'd be
@@Krissieo Me too. Although considering a lot of units can often be easily killed by certain units (siege dying to bombards, infantry/archers being one-hit by siege onagers, cavalier being killed by halberdiers real fast), I'm sure that the mechanic would be quite impactful.
Also make demo ship strats against Sicilians 'less' efficient in a number of ways. Would impact water battles of Sicilians Galleys/Fireships (even Sicilian Demos) in a unique way where more Demo Ships or added firepower would be needed. That and the infamous demos killing land units would be less explosive.
Perhaps instead of the 7-per-TC (and in addition to resistance) First Crusade could give Serjeants the ability to repair buildings/ siege units, possibly the ability to build castles too, and possibly slightly upgrade Donjon HP. The synergy would make it more useful and less insta-35-troops.
I don't like the villager idea- feels like it would fundamentally alter the workflow in a very non-AoE2 way.
The HP idea could work, but could also be quite busted, just by virtue of turning one-shots into two-shots. It might be less OP if it applied only to buildings and/or certain units (vills maybe)?
What is the french aoe 3 upgrade you are referring to?
That last idea sounds absurd. I've watched my Spirit of the Law, I know how significant your units surviving just one more hit can be, and that's on literally every single unit for every single matchup in the game? Completely busted.
i one tricked my way to 1400 with mongol lancers, they’re op af
dont they lose to every other gold unit balanced resources?
@@foreverjune8 no, they do not.
@@foreverjune8 they die to karambits and thats about it 11
@@foreverjune8 I think people underestimate the extra range. Having 5, 6 steppe lances hitting at the same time does some serious damage. They're even decent against buildings because of that in my experience
@@foreverjune8 In small numbers yes, but once you have a group they're super powerful
5:48 T90Blind
Mongels are gg man. I love them. Feudal pressure into FC into knights into gg
I always play mongols, but this afternoon for the first time I gave a shoot to the steppe lancers.... it fail 😂 I'll check that video with great interest so :p
Oh, gorgeous trees! Love this new mod. Insta like!
T90 likes his maps the same way he likes his Thai escorts. Wide open and packing huge wood.
Steppe lancers trigger T90's Scooby Doo voice
Is it the steppe lancers or is it the Mongol bonus on this map? I think using any unit with advantages would have resulted in a win. The pressure would give him the ability to collect all 5 relics. I saw this as a mismatch when I saw the civs and the map.
Both, I'm not sure why this is St4rk's home map but yeah he got mismatched real hard
Finally! I am on a mission to show how amazing these bad boys are
Glad to see your hard work being recognised!
@@Barbarossaoreilly haha i wish i could take credit
Steppe Lancer, what are you doing???
" Testing the *extra range* "
i always enjoy watching freakinandy's plays
"Holy.. where did his wood go" - T90, 2022
"Full offense for the Austrian" -T90
Steppe lanceers are great when archer players try to attack move away. Also steppe lancers are a better counter to pikemen than knights
You know looking at the t90 titans logo I feel its a missed opportunity that you called the silver gold and platinum leage instead of knight, chavalier and paladin league...
at some point t90 has to realize that the ca ui actually shows the amount of resources left on his selection...there was some 3.8k food not 2k @11:57 ... wouldn't have mentioned but its been like this for so long lol
Take a shot everytime t90 said Steppe lancers
Tatar SL are definitely better against Xbows when you get silk armor and chain barded armor. With that +3 pierce armor castle age Tatar SL can actually dive under TCs and castles
Maybe would've been good for stark to go serjeants once he had the donjon and castle.. Maybe those would've been enough to snipe the mangos and would've been ok at tanking the SL while xbows did damage.
While it's fair that Mongol SL are strongest, you really shouldn't discount Cuman SL. If you have good eco you can get stupid stable numbers on the way up to castle and make a lot of them really quickly. Moreover, Cuman steppes are faster (I think). I get that it makes sense to compare SL to knights, but they really are a different unit and probably not fully figured out.
what do you mean new meta?! every time i use a civ with steppe lancers i always go for them
T90, my leg hurts. Can you recommend a treatment?
Cowbell
Big wood 🪵
Full series?
Every time I play Age, I want to go Lancer. They say it’s because my brain has cancer.
All my life I’ve been waiting for
, praying for a mounted Kamyuk that can spear the heads of those nerfing devs upon the steppes their eyes will spy the lancer guy. Lancer guy will make you cry because no counter stops the pokey boi.
It’s not just that I like long spears, but underdogs bring me tears.
I think they really should rebalance the unit. They overnerfed them after making them OP at the start. Especially for Cumans. I also think Huns and Magyars had to get them too.
And maybe Persians and/or Turks. They should aim at giving them a specific role, like raiding. +3/+6 Attack vs. Villagers and Tradecarts and +0/+1 Pierce Armor (for Standard/Elite) combined with being available for more civs is enough for that.
Hey t90, our tournament organizer and main caster is busy for the next 2 weeks. Would you consider casting a few of our games?
Our tournament is the *Rookie Rivals* . It's like literally a low elo legend tournament, how about that? (to be fair, it's actually more low elo into mid elo)
What do you think?
Wonder when siege towers will become meta.
Mongols have 98hp after bloodlines, 111 for elite. The others have 80hp, 90 for elite.
Mongols have arguably the best steppe lancers in castle, but the worst in imperial
They lack the final armor but have more HP, so "worst" is maybe not right/situational. Against ranged units maybe, against pike/halbs I'd prefer Mongol steppe-lancers
Yeah but Tatars’ get extra armour on top of the last upgrade and Cumans’ train in half the time
@@DoMeASolid and are faster too
@@DoMeASolid but mongols steppe lancers win against other steppe lancers. It's really not that straightforward.
yo, just wanted to say I love the gold games just because these gold players are usually the guys looking to make a name for themselves and its cool to see new players! thx for the content
he needed BIG walls to keep the lancers out
Stats would be a great addition
shouldve dropped extra tc's and gone crusade when he got his castle up.. with those and the xbows he wouldve had a chance
The wrong full set is linked in the discription.
I love big woods
Andies use of steplancers is not an issue, it is his ill advised manoeuvres ,splitting them up at the worst time instead of keeping them together and decimating the Sicilian army first that caused him shaky issues.
Love to see this !!
Andy really loves using Steppe Lancers. That's his style.
what does T90 meaning?
It's a Russian main battle tank
@@KaylaJoyGunn oh the tiger
For people who do not have big wood. Well that is on you. I like looking at my big wood. ;}
lolol
freaking andy man!
I play team matches only and Mongols are one of the worst civs for me to pick.
My wood is big, and I don’t care about others.
YES STEPPIES
yay, big trees
Yes! Trees!!!
"A lot of people Imp into GG" try most of Jonslow's strats.. Imp into GG, boom into GG, douche into insta GG
You trash Steppe Lancers a lot, but in my opinion, they're brilliant. Stack them up and drop them on the enemy with a few knights tucked in and they dominate melee battles. They even perform well against halbs if the numbers stacked.
Make Steppe Lancers Great again :)
@Byzantine Historian Tamerlane for President ☺️
A steppe lancer is every girl's dream.
That stark guy could have won against step lancers but he doesn't know what to counter and how. He lost an easy game.
I feel like CA has to be the counter mixed with crossbows
Lancers seem geared for fighting knights more than archers, with their range and speed, just hit and run style
What are you doing Steppe Lancer?
no one uses big trees....
For those who like big tree...Here is your big wood ? hahaha ... Noice !!
Me like lancer
I know my ELO is 980, but I am terrible in multiplayer.. I never attack before I reach Imperial age... But im trying to change that. - irontusk341
No it makes sense
Militia and champion cost the same
Spearman and halbader cost the same
Etc
No point in buying worse versions of things
@@KaylaJoyGunn Nice joke bro
Any idea how classic pro and other Ukrainian players are doing?
I dont understand for the life of me how to make voobly work.
You don't. Just play DE
@@MrJacobhobbs i got it working. the game sucked. I play HD edition, its fantastic. absolutely hated the voobly gameplay, graphics, lack of mouse scrolling, hotkeys, all a downgrade from the vanilla versions of the game.
truly.
why would you use voobly?
@@Sodacacik well it seems to be that is where the largest community of players is for our game. It can be really tough to find a fair match sometimes.
@@Progeusz is that supposed to be a question?
T90 energy level low...
How is this a “really good game”- Freaking Andy dominated the entire time. Stark never even left his base once
:o
This is the worst serengeti generation I have ever seen
It just makes me vomit to see those "ultra smart, unpredictable" tactics like going archers with Sicilians... I pray for more Huskarls, Shriwnamsassaaasas, Ghulams to get rid of these pesky NO FOOD requiring, shoot and move one step, bunching together in one square cm rats, so happy devs are moving in the right direction to get rid of this cancer.
@@SaturatedCat I don't know, but with all the archer talk and the counter talk to them, I'm pretty sure that he is obviously talking about the Scorpion Cancer within the game
Shut Up
@@SaturatedCat archer mechanics makes this game much worse than it would be otherwise. I basically get an orgasm when my Ghulams rek 30+ x-bows in 5 seconds.
Implying gurjaras aren't cancer themselves. I'm just happy my dear byzantines counter their damn camel + chakram combo.
Edit: typo.
"New Meta" is clickbate brother. It was economic advantage into win.
And the mangoes did all the work... Lancers could have been light cav, same effect
Some of his pictures and titles are a bit clickbaity
But in this case it's always interesting to see an underutilized unit
I don't think he meant "this will redefine the meta," I took it as "could this possibly be a feasible way to play on the ladder." so the title works.
Hi T90, I am loving the TTL! Brilliant. 👍💎
I hope that you are very happy with how it has started and I'm sure it will go from strength to strength. Congrats to you and the T90 Team for getting it off the ground! 😇
I feel the need, the need for SIEGE! 🤗 (With apologies to the original TOP GUN... 😁)
M 🦘🏏😎