Thank you for the video but especially the added info on the wiring, fuse and connectors sizes. Most videos don’t cover that last part which is probably the most important to newbies like myself
What a Great idea to do a vid on comparing All. Most of us are seriously thinking of switching from solar panels to this form of charging our generators which is a more reliable method not depending on sunny days specifically during the off-season !!!
This is a game changer for 2 reasons: 1. High voltage charging, a rarity as most DC-DC chargers are rated for 12v/24v; 2. The unit comes with active cooling an important feature most DC-DC chargers lack. The price is actual comparative for a high voltage unit. The ability to wireless control current/voltage comes really handy if you want to preserve your alternator. Thanks for the video--subbed/liked.
If you have Ecoflow Delta power stations, the Ecoflow version is far better, with a full 800W even with engine idle, and can reverse charge and trickle charge. Plus the connecting cables are far higher quality and the unit itself sturdier and better built.
This was very helpful. I knew about the Charger 1, but this really explained it. I was on the fence about getting one of these, but now will consider it, for home, and also to use at a later build in my van.
The only thing missing is a nice big knob on it to adjust the output voltage without having to use the app:D If only this was available. It's sold out on Amazon and the Bluetti web site. I want one for a different application in that i can hook it up to the 25A 12V output of my AC200MAX and use that to charge all of my smaller power stations as it is higher efficiency than the built in chargers of most small power stations and just using that output on the AC200MAX means it will last days instead of hours using the big AC inverter. I have the Pecron (got it super cheap after watching your review. I also got the EcoFlow alternator charger with a Delta 2 promotion which works great as well. Great review of a great new product!
An adjustable knob would be really cool! I could see someone not knowing about voltage frying a smaller unit though. The smart app has the built in safety for that at least. When using the basic mode, it only will output 27 volts or lower. When using the custom pro mode gives you the warning about high voltage.
@@Jasonoid Lets say you are traveling and your phone is eaten by a bear. Without the app, will the Charger 1 still turn on and at least charge at its lowest speed (whatever that is) or is it dead/off if it cant connect to the app to turn on each time you want to use it ?
@Jasonoid I am interested in the "reverse charging" that the ecoflow DC/DC charger has but, I don't own an ecoflow. I was looking at the redodo/Iitime 40a DCDC charger because it has "reverse charging" I want to use it exclusively with a power station& lifepo4 - No car in the snario. The work around would use the 12V 30a power station output into the DCDC solar input to reverse charge the external lifepo4 (starter battery) can't find any info if this will work.
@@grindychum Check out the ETaker F2000. It has everything you are asking and more. It can combine 1000w solar + 800w Alternator to a whooping 1800w of DC output. It can reverse charge your car, or even jumpstart it if needed. It works on any powerstation or even to a plain simple SLA or LiFEPO4 battery. ruclips.net/video/ZFmG4aRQA9k/видео.htmlsi=V9EfDyEZVjfOupZW
Another great capability is that you can TURN IT OFF from inside your car! This lets you remove the alternator load on the fly, without having to get outbof car. As well as reduce the alternator load as you showed. My Pecron, I have to stop, get out of truck, and go turn it off. I might like to do this at night, rain, cold, when alternator loads are high. Great video, YES to a 4 way comparison!
Game changer that you can adjust the voltage. About 2X the cost of the Daygreen units, but with the adjustable voltage and app interface it is probably worth it.
I definitely would like to see a comparison video on these and also your simple homemade version comparison to these new units. Thank you for this video, you always put your best into them 👍
Thanks for this deep dive into the Charger 1. I always appreciate you clear and thorough descriptions. A feature you didn't mention is that the Charger 1 will turn off when it senses that the engine has stopped. Perhaps for this reason Bluetti says that the charger won't work with EV's. Presumably it will work with PHEV's at times when they operate in modes in which the ICE is always running. But during an long outage, who wouldn't appreciate being able to make use of the 100 kWh in an EV (or 25 kWh in a PHEV) just sitting there in the garage? I hope you and other reviewers will encourage Bluetti to provide a means of shutting off the ICE sensor to make it usable with electric vehicles whose 12V batteries are being charged by the high-voltage batteries. In the meantime, I wonder if there's any work-around that would make this possible.
Recommend another video on this being used on an EV (turned and kept "on", there's gotta be a workaround to be able to use this device on non-ICE) as a way to tap that full XXX kWh capacity through the 12V battery. This would be a huge upgrade over needing to use another inverter (with its losses) tapping the vehicle's 12V. Please find an EV and make that video, show us it can be done!!!
This cuts off charging at 12v. It would definitely work on an EV as the built in DC to DC converter of the drive battery is charging the smaller 12v accessory battery.
@@Jasonoid as someone who has been recently browsing EV+clamp on inverter videos for a makeshift V2L solution, and trying to figure how to also get my AC180 into the mix, I can say a video to do that with the Charger-1 (to avoid the extra inverter & losses, and control the draw to any power station), well that video would be first of its type and highly relevant as we approach winter!
Here's a full video about that concept (using one of these converters to pull power from an EV battery). The large drive battery charges the small 12v battery with a DC to DC converter. It should work just fine since the voltage holds above 12v. Super awesome concept in my opinion: ruclips.net/video/SRp_JMw95qE/видео.htmlsi=NMFRQKFBiPH42kXX
Thank you excellent video. I think the charger 1 has blown solar out the window I live 🇬🇧 so our solar is well rubbish. This thing has just made my year. 💯💯
Great video interesting product. I would love to see a video on how you would use that for to expand the storage of a Bluetti solar generator with aftermarket batteries (e.g. if you’re maxed out on expansion for an AC 300) and have extra solar sometimes! 😊
Thanks - I just received it and will install in my camper. I have a 200L and it works great - I only wish that Bluetti would have included this and the dc-to-dc D40 functionality in the 200L - a relatively inexpensive power stations gets expensive with these add ons. Great look as always.
Hi Jason, could you check the app and see if there is a way to disable the "auto power off" feature in the charger that is designed to prevent accidental battery drain? So, it's always on, regardless of what it thinks the car is doing. Thanks!
You could but there is zero benefit to it because you will loose 8% using the bluetti box VS just going staright into the solar input of the power station
@@Jasonoid I didn't realize it uses the pv input on the other side of it. Thanks for the response. I thought it used a different port to increase input in addition to solar.
Would this charge in all scenarios: Engine off, key not in ignition? Engine off key in Ignition on accessory position? Engine idling? What about vehicles with a Start button instead of a key ignition?
Quite fortuitous that this video came out just now. As it happens I'm conducting tests using a server rack 48V battery as an extension battery for my EcoFlow Delta Max 2000 using my 26cu.ft fridge which is not efficient compared to the newer models. I've been thinking of buying some of the 4pk 12V lithium batteries to use on my smaller units and this charger would be great for me to use, WOW!, great timing. Do the comparison videos I'll be cracking a beer open while I enjoy the video. Great job Jason.
I live in my car and trying to find a small system to hook up solar and a all in one solar charger that is connected to the alternator and car battery so everything is connected
Question: Could you just feed a 24 volt battery straight into the solar charging ports of the bluetti? Hobotech did that successfully with the ecoflow wave2.
Great video….i have the Ecoflow alternator charger which I love….i will say if you have an Ecoflow product i would recommend using Ecoflow, the reason is it doesn’t use your solar input thus allowing solar and alternator charging simultaneously. I have 2 delta pro with 1 extra battery each along with 400ah which the 2 alternator chargers are connected in my 5th wheel with 2800 watts of solar. I have a 1/0 guage cable with Anderson connector from tow vehicle to 5th wheel. With this setup I am able to run with full power to the rig wit a/c running with residential refrigerator and be fully charged when arriving to camp site even on cloudy days.
I charge the fridge/freezer and Delta 2 and River all at the same time from the vehicle. The fridge is connected directly to one of the SUV's three 12V sockets, the Delta 2 is connected directly to the 800W alternator charger, and the River is plugged into the AC socket of the Delta 2.
I am team Ecoflow also and bought the Delta2-DCAlternator bundle 5/2024. No permanent install of the alternator generator. I installed heavy duty battery clamps to the charger and can attach to my vehicle battery or a 100 ah standalone. I have the new Delta2 plus RiverPro2, Delta Max 2000 so a lot of transportable power and charging options ... somewhat similar to @Globetrotter-1 when in my YukonXL car camping setup except I don't currently take the DeltaMax but DO take a Wave2 and Glacier. I live in NW Montana and travel in Pac NW preferable mountain/forest so solar is not a great option. I think the DC-DC option (Ecoflow or Bluetti - whichever team you committed to :) ) is a great alternative to solar and less expensive!
@@theroadhome_Liz_Summers I still use solar panels when parked up for long periods. The large Ecoflow bifacial folding panels are great (although the bag stand is awful and too fiddly). If I'm parked up in the wilds (and not driving to locations) for weeks during rain, snow or overcast weather, or inside the shade of a forest, then I'll simply start the engine and run it for an hour or more on idle. This quickly charges the Delta & River at a full 800W, so it is a great option to have.
Yep, it will work just fine on the AC200 models. Just connect it to the solar charging port via the MC4 cable. The Bluetti smart app connects directly to the Charger 1, not the AC200 power station. So if you download the Bluetti app, you'll look for the Charger 1 to connect to once it's powered up.
Would appreciate seeing a video on the Ecoflow DC charger and in particular reverse charging of a 24V battery from an Ecoflow Delta 2 or Delta Pro. Thanks!
Thanks for the review Jason, this looks ideal for what I’m trying to do with my camper van. Connecting this to my battery bank with Anderson connectors will be super easy. I can use the same Anderson connector to charge up the battery bank when the sun comes back out too!
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Thank you! Just ordered one. Charging by solar has been a challenging to impossible during winter months on the Oregon coast! This will be a game changer with those charging speeds.
Great video. Which one would you prefer? It seems like the PECRON for 150bucks getting 500 watts is the deal. I can get two of the Pecrons to hook up to my Ecoflow Delta 2 max which has two Solar inputs. To give me about 800 to 1000 watts of charging, CORRECT??
Thanks for the new info. BLUETTI is my main home backup but I do have other power stations that are not BLUETTI. This is an awesome device because it gives me a few optional. A comparison of the units would be great.
EcoFlow also makes one that is 800W and supports 20-60V. I don't know if it's compatible with other power stations. But it can reverse charge if you starter battery dies.
On the phone app, it lists every model of generator from Bluetti. What do you select if your generator is not Bluetti and it's not listed even though it claims 95% compatibility?
The Bluetti now comes with all the wiring harness, which is great. You'll only need this adapter to connect the output to your Delta 2: amzn.to/3PbtH08
Renogy has had a DC to DC charger from 20-60W for several years now. The voltage is adjusted for amount desired with dip switches. Granted this one is much more adjustable but over double the price.
Thanks this is great content. Have you looked at the Rebogy Rover Boost Ialtough it is an MPPT I am wondering if it can do many of the same things since it can boost 12 or 24v inputs to charge 36 or 48v batteries..
Hey Jason. I decided to install a 1500 watt ac power inverter in my van to charge my Bluetti AC180. But it will not charge and I get a ground fault. Same with the EB3A. But it will charge my Bluetti power stations with the dc power brick. I grounded the ac inverter to the vehicle and the ac180 with the ground screw and I still get a ground fault. What am I missing?
Great video and product. Not sure if I could run this through my current 12v dc-dc campervan set up? Can it be hooked up onto my rear AGM leisure battery and not directly off the Van battery/alternator so when I’m driving or running the engine it would charge via the 12v leisure battery in the rear of the van? Thanks
Thanks, this was helpful. I've watched three videos about this charger: yours is the best. Alas, I clearly need a course on electronics. I listened carefully to your words (especially about the possible issues with a vehicle's alternator), but I don't understand electricity well enough to feel safe about my ability to set up and run systems like this. I know they are very simple (relatively), but working with electricity scares me. I would probably look for help to set up this system in my (as yet un-purchased) SUV or minivan.
This was really helpful as I have the Bluetti AC200L. I would have liked to see you connect the cables to the battery. I know that’s a no brainer for many but I’ve never done it and not sure if it’s as EZ as pos to pos and neg to neg lol. But this is the most inclusive video I’ve seen yet for the Charger 1 and had 95% of what I needed to know! THANK YOU.
@ Thanks. I’m wanting to use it in my Promaster and their silly battery is under the driver’s feet and if I’m not mistaken, has several posts for each.. it’s confusing lol. Thanks i appreciate the video.
All sounds good,,, I'm not hearing how long of a charging cord you can get? I need it to reach all the way into my truck camper, where my Bluetti will be in.
Can this be used with something else besides MC4? Ideally I would like to keep my power station in my truck bed box and have it charging and topped off using type-b plug in.
As of alternator and battery side. Does it support smart alternator and what is cutoff voltage that it does not drain the starter battery. Thanks of good video.
I use a Prius for traveling and camping on occasion and a JACKERY1000. The Prius does not have an alternator,Nor use the twelve volt battery in the back to start the motor. Will this work if hooked to the 12v battery where I already have a 1000w Inverter. ?
Hybrids and EVs use a 'converter' to take power from the drive battery to charge the 12v battery. It will work just the same and sometimes even better with a hybrid.
Comparisons are always good. Curious on battery backups that accept generator charging, how many can output and charge from generators. Figuring the solar panels are missing after a hurricane 🤣🤣
Love to see a compare. You share pertinent info, and I a very easy to understand manner. Thank you. Would really love to know the tolerable temper the bluetti charger can handle. I’d like to put then in my truck bed, which has a lockable rolling bed cover. So it would be out of the elements.
For the price of the batteries these days, makes the most sense to use this method to extend the power stations instead of buying the manufacturer’s extra battery.
@@Jasonoid The charge controller is probably the cheapest part of the whole setup. lol. Definitely gets one’s thoughts going. And to put all the connections on anderson connectors makes the whole thing so much more convenient.
@@JasonoidWith the Ecoflow 800W alternator charger, you don't need an extra charger or cable, because it will charge the extra Delta battery on its own without needing to connect up to the main Delta 2, Delta 3 or Delta Max.
@@Globetrotter-1he means a bare battery. i’m also curious. 12v 100ah are around $200 now but i don’t know the best way to link it with my existing ac200
Ok. Today's concern is variable voltage amperage into the device perhaps from solar panels operating at lower temperatures. Is there a fuse to protect the batteries, or should one expect the MPPT to protect the battery from exposure to over volt or over voltage protection.
Good luck finding your car alternator rating in the manual. Question: how long will that 12V battery last charging at 500 amps? Or a 12V 100Ah liFePo battery?
500 Amps?! This converter can not pull more then 560W, which on a 12V Battery equals to about 50A So your 12V 100Ah battery will last for about 2h at full charging speed
Wow this makes their giant external batteries obsolete doesn’t it. Nice. What’s the lowest voltage that it will use from an external battery? What cuts off first as the voltage drops from the battery? The battery bms or the bluetti charger?
This is meant to only charge power stations. You might be able to charge a 100ah LFP battery if this was set to the 15v level but it's not a dedicated charger and it will not charge very quickly (only 150 watts).
UPDATE: Bluetti dropped the price on this to $249 and they now include the installation cables! Great Deal!
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Just picked one up for my Anker F2600. Stoked to have this option!
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@@danemmerich6775 It was at 249 for nearly a month. You'll have to wait for the next sale.
Jason, a video comparing all of them would be great! Thank You!
Hobotech has great reviews on these !
Thank you for the video but especially the added info on the wiring, fuse and connectors sizes. Most videos don’t cover that last part which is probably the most important to newbies like myself
For sure! I try to keep these videos simple for people that are new to power stations.
@@Jasonoidwhat do you think of the bluetti wiring harness with the fuse on the charger side ??
What a Great idea to do a vid on comparing All. Most of us are seriously thinking of switching from solar panels to this form of charging our generators which is a more reliable method not depending on sunny days specifically during the off-season !!!
This is a game changer for 2 reasons: 1. High voltage charging, a rarity as most DC-DC chargers are rated for 12v/24v; 2. The unit comes with active cooling an important feature most DC-DC chargers lack. The price is actual comparative for a high voltage unit. The ability to wireless control current/voltage comes really handy if you want to preserve your alternator. Thanks for the video--subbed/liked.
I LOVE how this has an adjustable voltage! I have both small and large power stations. This will work with all of them! Thanks for the video :) :)
Glad to hear it will work great for your setup! Thanks for watching!
Yesn please compare all of them. That would be pretty amazing from such a thorough and concise reviewer as yourself.
Fantastic! This will be great for my van!
I would love to see the comparison video and would also like to see your take on the EcoFlow version.
Sounds good, Katy! Thanks for always checking out the videos!
If you have Ecoflow Delta power stations, the Ecoflow version is far better, with a full 800W even with engine idle, and can reverse charge and trickle charge. Plus the connecting cables are far higher quality and the unit itself sturdier and better built.
This was very helpful. I knew about the Charger 1, but this really explained it. I was on the fence about getting one of these, but now will consider it, for home, and also to use at a later build in my van.
It's a great unit for both!
I think you should make a video about the best options for a camper van, including power stations and solar panels
The only thing missing is a nice big knob on it to adjust the output voltage without having to use the app:D If only this was available. It's sold out on Amazon and the Bluetti web site. I want one for a different application in that i can hook it up to the 25A 12V output of my AC200MAX and use that to charge all of my smaller power stations as it is higher efficiency than the built in chargers of most small power stations and just using that output on the AC200MAX means it will last days instead of hours using the big AC inverter. I have the Pecron (got it super cheap after watching your review. I also got the EcoFlow alternator charger with a Delta 2 promotion which works great as well. Great review of a great new product!
An adjustable knob would be really cool! I could see someone not knowing about voltage frying a smaller unit though. The smart app has the built in safety for that at least. When using the basic mode, it only will output 27 volts or lower. When using the custom pro mode gives you the warning about high voltage.
@@Jasonoid Lets say you are traveling and your phone is eaten by a bear. Without the app, will the Charger 1 still turn on and at least charge at its lowest speed (whatever that is) or is it dead/off if it cant connect to the app to turn on each time you want to use it ?
@@bruceweissman8772 it remembers the last setting that was programed. The default setting is 27v as well 👍
Yes, please do a video comparing all of the car chargers! Thank you!
I've got a lot of ideas for future videos. 👍
@Jasonoid I am interested in the "reverse charging" that the ecoflow DC/DC charger has but, I don't own an ecoflow. I was looking at the redodo/Iitime 40a DCDC charger because it has "reverse charging" I want to use it exclusively with a power station& lifepo4 - No car in the snario. The work around would use the 12V 30a power station output into the DCDC solar input to reverse charge the external lifepo4 (starter battery) can't find any info if this will work.
@@grindychum Check out the ETaker F2000. It has everything you are asking and more. It can combine 1000w solar + 800w Alternator to a whooping 1800w of DC output. It can reverse charge your car, or even jumpstart it if needed. It works on any powerstation or even to a plain simple SLA or LiFEPO4 battery. ruclips.net/video/ZFmG4aRQA9k/видео.htmlsi=V9EfDyEZVjfOupZW
I have been waiting on Jason review on this! thank you !
That's great to hear!
@@Jasonoid Me too! :)
Jason, when you do the comparison video I suggest you include a spread sheet comparing the features like you have done with other products.
YES do a comparison between all the chargers .. Thank You !!
Another great capability is that you can TURN IT OFF from inside your car! This lets you remove the alternator load on the fly, without having to get outbof car. As well as reduce the alternator load as you showed. My Pecron, I have to stop, get out of truck, and go turn it off. I might like to do this at night, rain, cold, when alternator loads are high.
Great video, YES to a 4 way comparison!
Game changer that you can adjust the voltage. About 2X the cost of the Daygreen units, but with the adjustable voltage and app interface it is probably worth it.
A comparison of all of them would be good
I definitely would like to see a comparison video on these and also your simple homemade version comparison to these new units. Thank you for this video, you always put your best into them 👍
Good idea, including the older DIY versions as well! That would be quite the video!
Excellent presentation 👏 yes please compare all of them. Fantastic work Jason.
Thanks for this deep dive into the Charger 1. I always appreciate you clear and thorough descriptions.
A feature you didn't mention is that the Charger 1 will turn off when it senses that the engine has stopped. Perhaps for this reason Bluetti says that the charger won't work with EV's. Presumably it will work with PHEV's at times when they operate in modes in which the ICE is always running.
But during an long outage, who wouldn't appreciate being able to make use of the 100 kWh in an EV (or 25 kWh in a PHEV) just sitting there in the garage? I hope you and other reviewers will encourage Bluetti to provide a means of shutting off the ICE sensor to make it usable with electric vehicles whose 12V batteries are being charged by the high-voltage batteries. In the meantime, I wonder if there's any work-around that would make this possible.
Recommend another video on this being used on an EV (turned and kept "on", there's gotta be a workaround to be able to use this device on non-ICE) as a way to tap that full XXX kWh capacity through the 12V battery. This would be a huge upgrade over needing to use another inverter (with its losses) tapping the vehicle's 12V. Please find an EV and make that video, show us it can be done!!!
This cuts off charging at 12v. It would definitely work on an EV as the built in DC to DC converter of the drive battery is charging the smaller 12v accessory battery.
@@Jasonoid Boy, I'd love to be certain about that. Do you know that
@@Jasonoid as someone who has been recently browsing EV+clamp on inverter videos for a makeshift V2L solution, and trying to figure how to also get my AC180 into the mix, I can say a video to do that with the Charger-1 (to avoid the extra inverter & losses, and control the draw to any power station), well that video would be first of its type and highly relevant as we approach winter!
Here's a full video about that concept (using one of these converters to pull power from an EV battery). The large drive battery charges the small 12v battery with a DC to DC converter. It should work just fine since the voltage holds above 12v. Super awesome concept in my opinion:
ruclips.net/video/SRp_JMw95qE/видео.htmlsi=NMFRQKFBiPH42kXX
Thank you excellent video. I think the charger 1 has blown solar out the window I live 🇬🇧 so our solar is well rubbish. This thing has just made my year. 💯💯
Yes, please compare all of them. Thanks for the video!
I'll be sure to make a comparison video!
You did a great job showing all the options on useing the Bluetti 1 charger.
I will buy one on these great devices ; better than solar .
Great video interesting product. I would love to see a video on how you would use that for to expand the storage of a Bluetti solar generator with aftermarket batteries (e.g. if you’re maxed out on expansion for an AC 300) and have extra solar sometimes! 😊
Why not get a pure sine invertor, and have many other uses with it also.
Thanks - I just received it and will install in my camper. I have a 200L and it works great - I only wish that Bluetti would have included this and the dc-to-dc D40 functionality in the 200L - a relatively inexpensive power stations gets expensive with these add ons. Great look as always.
Yeah, the D40 sure had some potential, they just missed that opportunity!
Can you configure it so it won't drain your car battery (low voltage cut off), similar to the Pecron?
Hi Jason, could you check the app and see if there is a way to disable the "auto power off" feature in the charger that is designed to prevent accidental battery drain? So, it's always on, regardless of what it thinks the car is doing. Thanks!
Best you can do at this stage is slide the "Charging" slider in the Charger 1 menu to the left (OFF), then flick off the circuit breaker.
Can you connect the 12volt side to a solar panel instead of to a battery?
It’s meant to see roughly 12-28 volts from a battery. Not meant to be a Solar charge controller. Different design
Just get the bluetti accesory you need. It’s the box to specifically add more solar. Probably cheaper anyway.
You could but there is zero benefit to it because you will loose 8% using the bluetti box VS just going staright into the solar input of the power station
I'd recommend connecting the solar panel directly to the power station for the most power.
@@Jasonoid I didn't realize it uses the pv input on the other side of it. Thanks for the response. I thought it used a different port to increase input in addition to solar.
Would this charge in all scenarios:
Engine off, key not in ignition?
Engine off key in Ignition on accessory position?
Engine idling?
What about vehicles with a Start button instead of a key ignition?
Only run this when the engine is running and the alternator is charging the starter battery 👍
Quite fortuitous that this video came out just now. As it happens I'm conducting tests using a server rack 48V battery as an extension battery for my EcoFlow Delta Max 2000 using my 26cu.ft fridge which is not efficient compared to the newer models. I've been thinking of buying some of the 4pk 12V lithium batteries to use on my smaller units and this charger would be great for me to use, WOW!, great timing. Do the comparison videos I'll be cracking a beer open while I enjoy the video. Great job Jason.
I live in my car and trying to find a small system to hook up solar and a all in one solar charger that is connected to the alternator and car battery so everything is connected
Question: Could you just feed a 24 volt battery straight into the solar charging ports of the bluetti? Hobotech did that successfully with the ecoflow wave2.
Sure, as long as your power station supports the peak voltage 👍
Great video….i have the Ecoflow alternator charger which I love….i will say if you have an Ecoflow product i would recommend using Ecoflow, the reason is it doesn’t use your solar input thus allowing solar and alternator charging simultaneously. I have 2 delta pro with 1 extra battery each along with 400ah which the 2 alternator chargers are connected in my 5th wheel with 2800 watts of solar. I have a 1/0 guage cable with Anderson connector from tow vehicle to 5th wheel. With this setup I am able to run with full power to the rig wit a/c running with residential refrigerator and be fully charged when arriving to camp site even on cloudy days.
That's one sweet setup! Thanks for sharing how you are using your unit.
I charge the fridge/freezer and Delta 2 and River all at the same time from the vehicle. The fridge is connected directly to one of the SUV's three 12V sockets, the Delta 2 is connected directly to the 800W alternator charger, and the River is plugged into the AC socket of the Delta 2.
I am team Ecoflow also and bought the Delta2-DCAlternator bundle 5/2024. No permanent install of the alternator generator. I installed heavy duty battery clamps to the charger and can attach to my vehicle battery or a 100 ah standalone. I have the new Delta2 plus RiverPro2, Delta Max 2000 so a lot of transportable power and charging options ... somewhat similar to @Globetrotter-1 when in my YukonXL car camping setup except I don't currently take the DeltaMax but DO take a Wave2 and Glacier. I live in NW Montana and travel in Pac NW preferable mountain/forest so solar is not a great option. I think the DC-DC option (Ecoflow or Bluetti - whichever team you committed to :) ) is a great alternative to solar and less expensive!
@@theroadhome_Liz_Summers I still use solar panels when parked up for long periods. The large Ecoflow bifacial folding panels are great (although the bag stand is awful and too fiddly). If I'm parked up in the wilds (and not driving to locations) for weeks during rain, snow or overcast weather, or inside the shade of a forest, then I'll simply start the engine and run it for an hour or more on idle. This quickly charges the Delta & River at a full 800W, so it is a great option to have.
@@Globetrotter-1 Thanks for the info!
Hey, back again! Awesome video. Definitely interested in a comparison video with all the alternators here!
I'm planning on comparing them in the future 👍
What about a video comparing the Bluetti or Etaker with a Victron DC to DC charger?
Does this also connect to the older solar generators? Ac 200? Not sure those generators have Bluetooth ?
Yep, it will work just fine on the AC200 models. Just connect it to the solar charging port via the MC4 cable. The Bluetti smart app connects directly to the Charger 1, not the AC200 power station. So if you download the Bluetti app, you'll look for the Charger 1 to connect to once it's powered up.
Would appreciate seeing a video on the Ecoflow DC charger and in particular reverse charging of a 24V battery from an Ecoflow Delta 2 or Delta Pro. Thanks!
How do you set it up to where you can charge your car battery with the solar generator battery??
Thanks for the review Jason, this looks ideal for what I’m trying to do with my camper van. Connecting this to my battery bank with Anderson connectors will be super easy. I can use the same Anderson connector to charge up the battery bank when the sun comes back out too!
That sounds like it will work great!
Great video. So what is the measured efficiency? I could not find that spec in the user manual that I downloaded.
92.6% approximately - measured at s couple of different scenarios
Do a video on building the wire bundle with the proper fuse.
Inline fuses are easy to install. Install them near the starter battery here are a few good examples:
6 AWG Wire: amzn.to/4eM20Gm
60 amp Fuse: amzn.to/3Ntzyx2
4 AWG Wire: amzn.to/407YnWF
80 amp Fuse: amzn.to/48ezT0a
Oneday when I build my dream cross country van this will come in useful!
Thank Jason for all your video. This one is an other great one.
When connected to the car battery, will it not drain the battery when the car is off?
Thank you! Just ordered one. Charging by solar has been a challenging to impossible during winter months on the Oregon coast! This will be a game changer with those charging speeds.
Great video. Which one would you prefer? It seems like the PECRON for 150bucks getting 500 watts is the deal. I can get two of the Pecrons to hook up to my Ecoflow Delta 2 max which has two Solar inputs. To give me about 800 to 1000 watts of charging, CORRECT??
Thanks. I have a AC180, SC200L and the Charger 1. Trying to find a way through the firewall. The cable isn't long enough to route under my car.
On my truck I went through a rubber grommet on the driver side near the steering column. There should be plenty of holes you can use.
13:30 Yes, this would be great. the pros the cons and the diffrences that matter in one vid would be very appreciated!
Thanks for the new info. BLUETTI is my main home backup but I do have other power stations that are not BLUETTI. This is an awesome device because it gives me a few optional. A comparison of the units would be great.
Is it best to connect to the negative to the chassis or the negative battery?
You can do either since the negative terminal of the battery is grounded to the frame.
I went with the chassis, just in case.
Is there a system that can charge with solar and van battery while driving at the same time rather than having to swap between both?
This might work for you:
ruclips.net/video/IBtENPh5rTA/видео.html
@ thank you😊
I have the VTOMAN jump 1800 only charges at 200watt, would this work on that without blowing it up🎉😒
EcoFlow also makes one that is 800W and supports 20-60V. I don't know if it's compatible with other power stations. But it can reverse charge if you starter battery dies.
Definitely not compatible with other brands unfortunately
Is there connectors available to use this to charge my lithium batteries?
This will not charge a standalone lithium battery, please use a proper DC to DC LFP charger for that.
@@Jasonoid
sorry, I will rephrase that. Can I connect this to my charger so I can charge my batteries?
@@goldentroutprospecting1821 this might work when connected to a solar charge controller. You'd have to test it out.
On the phone app, it lists every model of generator from Bluetti. What do you select if your generator is not Bluetti and it's not listed even though it claims 95% compatibility?
Why would they list other brands in their app? You choose the 'Custom' option and you set the voltage to what you want 👍
Can this be used while the vehicle is in motion? My understanding is you should not be driving with the Bluetti powered on.
Its best to use while driving since your engine RPMs are higher producing more power.
If the Charger 1 is connected to the vehicle’s battery, how does it know when the vehicle is off and not to pull from the vehicle anymore?
Stops pulling power when the battery is under 12v.
@ got it, that makes sense thank you for the response.
Great video. Thank you. My second battery bank is Delta 2, what connectors do I need for that unit?
The Bluetti now comes with all the wiring harness, which is great. You'll only need this adapter to connect the output to your Delta 2: amzn.to/3PbtH08
@ order placed. Thank you Jason!
Renogy has had a DC to DC charger from 20-60W for several years now. The voltage is adjusted for amount desired with dip switches. Granted this one is much more adjustable but over double the price.
Thanks this is great content. Have you looked at the Rebogy Rover Boost Ialtough it is an MPPT I am wondering if it can do many of the same things since it can boost 12 or 24v inputs to charge 36 or 48v batteries..
ok thats great... can you use it to charge a battery.. say 12v 280a LiTime 🤔
Hey Jason. I decided to install a 1500 watt ac power inverter in my van to charge my Bluetti AC180. But it will not charge and I get a ground fault. Same with the EB3A. But it will charge my Bluetti power stations with the dc power brick. I grounded the ac inverter to the vehicle and the ac180 with the ground screw and I still get a ground fault. What am I missing?
what strops it just draining the car battery when the engine is not running?
it will stop charging as the battery voltage drops near 12v.
Great video and product.
Not sure if I could run this through my current 12v dc-dc campervan set up?
Can it be hooked up onto my rear AGM leisure battery and not directly off the Van battery/alternator so when I’m driving or running the engine it would charge via the 12v leisure battery in the rear of the van?
Thanks
Thanks, this was helpful. I've watched three videos about this charger: yours is the best. Alas, I clearly need a course on electronics. I listened carefully to your words (especially about the possible issues with a vehicle's alternator), but I don't understand electricity well enough to feel safe about my ability to set up and run systems like this. I know they are very simple (relatively), but working with electricity scares me. I would probably look for help to set up this system in my (as yet un-purchased) SUV or minivan.
This was really helpful as I have the Bluetti AC200L. I would have liked to see you connect the cables to the battery. I know that’s a no brainer for many but I’ve never done it and not sure if it’s as EZ as pos to pos and neg to neg lol. But this is the most inclusive video I’ve seen yet for the Charger 1 and had 95% of what I needed to know! THANK YOU.
To connect it to your battery, it's that simple, positive to positive, negative to negative! You can do it!
@ Thanks. I’m wanting to use it in my Promaster and their silly battery is under the driver’s feet and if I’m not mistaken, has several posts for each.. it’s confusing lol. Thanks i appreciate the video.
Great video. 😉👍
Yes, could you do a comparison video on the units you have reviewed in the past.
Quite small cables gauge for 10A continious, isn't it?
Probably just okay, but they could have added a bit thicker cables on that MC4 Adapter
All sounds good,,, I'm not hearing how long of a charging cord you can get? I need it to reach all the way into my truck camper, where my Bluetti will be in.
Use a cable like this to extend the range of the charging to where you want:
amzn.to/3VmwB5G (choose the length you need)
@Jasonoid this will help. Thank you Jason!
Could you connect solar panels as an input to the Charge 1 to boost the wattage?
This does not support solar panel input.
Hi. Definitely would like to see a video about the Ecoflow alternator charger.
So if we have a big alternator how long will it charge at 500 watts and 10 amps before it gets hot and shuts down? Asking for a friend!
The Bluetti has fans so it won't turn off from being hot.
Can this be used with something else besides MC4? Ideally I would like to keep my power station in my truck bed box and have it charging and topped off using type-b plug in.
You can adapt to whatever type of connection you want. MC4 is just the stock option.
As of alternator and battery side. Does it support smart alternator and what is cutoff voltage that it does not drain the starter battery. Thanks of good video.
There's actually a setting in the app for a smart alternator (I should have covered that...). The low voltage cutoff is 12v.
Can you use it while it’s charging though with the charger 1 ? Will it hurt the Bluetti’s battery?
You can charge and the same time as using the power station, no harm done.
Comparison video with a suggestion for the ultimate solution advice for manufacturers to consider would be great.
Would like to c a comparison with the peckron as it a more affordable option if ur on a budget
Sounds good!
Will the The Bluetti Charger work with Jackery, specifically the new 1000 Plus, and the DJI Power 1000?
Ive just purchased this and haven’t had much luck getting it to charge my 1000v2
I use a Prius for traveling and camping on occasion and a JACKERY1000.
The Prius does not have an alternator,Nor use the twelve volt battery in the back to start the motor.
Will this work if hooked to the 12v battery where I already have a 1000w Inverter.
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Hybrids and EVs use a 'converter' to take power from the drive battery to charge the 12v battery. It will work just the same and sometimes even better with a hybrid.
@Jasonoid Thks!!
When you hook it up to a non-bluetti power station what do you select on the app on your phone?....etc.
Theres a 'custom voltage' setting so you can change it to any voltage between 15v and 56v. I show that near the end of the video.
Comparisons are always good. Curious on battery backups that accept generator charging, how many can output and charge from generators. Figuring the solar panels are missing after a hurricane 🤣🤣
Love to see a compare. You share pertinent info, and I a very easy to understand manner. Thank you.
Would really love to know the tolerable temper the bluetti charger can handle. I’d like to put then in my truck bed, which has a lockable rolling bed cover. So it would be out of the elements.
Is it compatible with the Dabbsson power station
Yes
I would be interested in a comparison video!!
Yes compare please
Questions, can the unit be powered up by plugging into a trucks dc cigarette plug?
Please a comparison video would be grand. Thank you.
How does it compare to the other 500W car chargers like the Etaker F1000 or Pecron DC1242-500?
For the price of the batteries these days, makes the most sense to use this method to extend the power stations instead of buying the manufacturer’s extra battery.
I agree! The only downside is charging the standalone battery back up. You'll need a separate solar charge controller or battery charger.
@@Jasonoid The charge controller is probably the cheapest part of the whole setup. lol.
Definitely gets one’s thoughts going.
And to put all the connections on anderson connectors makes the whole thing so much more convenient.
@@JasonoidWith the Ecoflow 800W alternator charger, you don't need an extra charger or cable, because it will charge the extra Delta battery on its own without needing to connect up to the main Delta 2, Delta 3 or Delta Max.
@@Globetrotter-1he means a bare battery. i’m also curious. 12v 100ah are around $200 now but i don’t know the best way to link it with my existing ac200
@@pennmikael No, he means the manufacturer's extra battery.
What type of battery has to be used ? Any kind or a particular one .? Thanks
Ok. Today's concern is variable voltage amperage into the device perhaps from solar panels operating at lower temperatures. Is there a fuse to protect the batteries, or should one expect the MPPT to protect the battery from exposure to over volt or over voltage protection.
Good luck finding your car alternator rating in the manual. Question: how long will that 12V battery last charging at 500 amps? Or a 12V 100Ah liFePo battery?
500 Amps?!
This converter can not pull more then 560W, which on a 12V Battery equals to about 50A
So your 12V 100Ah battery will last for about 2h at full charging speed
Has anyone used this to charge the Jackery 1000v2? I’m not having any luck getting this thing to charge mine. Thanks in advance
Wow this makes their giant external batteries obsolete doesn’t it. Nice. What’s the lowest voltage that it will use from an external battery? What cuts off first as the voltage drops from the battery? The battery bms or the bluetti charger?
It will stop working below 12v. Usually an LFP battery will discharge down till about 11v, so the Bluetti will shut off first.
@@Jasonoid Well that’s perfect. It won’t discharge past about 10% lifepo capacity then.
Can you use the charger 1 to connect directly to a 12.8 volt 100 Ah lithium battery or is the charger 1 only for to charge power stations?
This is meant to only charge power stations. You might be able to charge a 100ah LFP battery if this was set to the 15v level but it's not a dedicated charger and it will not charge very quickly (only 150 watts).
Can you adjust it without the app
No, it requires the app to make any setting change.
Can I use this charger with Hybrid vehicle ? Hybrids don't have altenator
Hybrids and a DC to DC converter that does all the charging, it puts out more power than an alternator 👍
@Jasonoid so just hookit up to the starter battery in the hybrid vehicle ? Should be safe ?
@@kh600891 Yep, heres a video showing the same principle:
ruclips.net/video/SRp_JMw95qE/видео.htmlsi=UnX16rnjW6YhF6Mr
Compare all please.
Can the Charger 1 be hooked up to the vehicle cigarette lighter for input instead of vehicle battery directly?
No, it will pull too much power and blow the 12v cig socket fuse. Needs to wired directly to the battery.