For anyone who hasn't experienced 180 VR videos, you are missing out; especially if it's in 3D and 4k/8k. When done right, it's as close to the feeling of being somewhere as you can get. There's a reason Hou says you need special equipment when moving. The more real something looks, the more your brain is convinced you are and your inner ear says you're not and you get sick. So this tech isn't the gimmick that 3D TVs were. Although, I'm so glad they made them because I've built up quite a library of 3D movies for virtual theaters (if ONLY they were in 4k!). I remember trying a 3D TV at Best Buy and thinking "This isn't going to last". I'm not thinking that with 180/360 3D VR. Now I have no idea if this tech will ever go mainstream (main reason I haven't started shooting content). The hardware is still too heavy, uncomfortable, complicated to use (for non-techies), and expensive (same for those that film). But this tech isn't dying. It delivers an experience like nothing else. I've never visited Paris, but thanks to Hou, I felt how cramped and creepy the underground skull-filled tombs were. I've never visited New York or Japan, but I've experienced it a ton of times thanks to Slice of Life and RUclips. Yesterday, I was so close to Stonehenge, I could see the tiny plants growing out of the stone. A month ago, I was about a foot away from the face of a tiger and panther. These are things my poor butt would've likely died never having experienced. Looking at it on TV/monitor is NOT the same. With a screen, the person filming chooses what you see. With this tech, you choose what to focus on. I just hope the tech takes off enough to make tv shows/movies because the immersion potential is limitless.
18 min recording in 8k 60fps is very little recording time. Just preparing the camera to record already consumes that time. How long should you wait for the camera to cool down to record another 18 min? The Clog2 is more difficult to expose and also has more noise. I think the overheating problem is present again as in the Canon R5. To record in VR180 you will want 8k 60 fps to have the highest image quality and 60fps is simply necessary in VR. The R5C has no overheating problems. Clearly the R5 Mark II is more oriented to photography with great advances in video. I think it is better to buy the R5C to record in VR180 or wait for the R5C Mark II.
So R5 C also has the same problem for 8K 60fps over 20-min continue recording depend on the power soluiton you use. They all have the same problem. The battery grip as it is not final production so it might change thing. Also AV is making card that does not generate so much heat that will help. It is not all fall on Canon.
@@hughhou So do you think Canon R5 mark II is a better camera for shooting VR180 videos? It has many advancements in video features like: 8k zoom, VR preview, Clog2, Digital IS (I prefer a gimbal for better results), Full-Hdmi, but it loses others like dual iso, cinema menus, from the R5C (I don 't want to talk about the oversampling 4k fine mode of the R5C because 8K gives better results in VR180)
Wow, this is mind blowing what Canon have done here! The level feature along with the histogram during recording is absolutely required! Looks like I need to get the bidirectional microphone! Thanks for putting this together, it’s wild!
You do! Both Rode and the famous German brand (start with the S that I can’t spell) has a really good one. Since Dolby actually place audio source with in Vision Pro instead of programming in space. So it’s better to capture at camera point for coverage.
Yes. This new video is exactly how it create: ruclips.net/video/2Swz5MzVgNA/видео.htmlsi=_7w5kl6TfLc2V0PL - I push out the example video first and next will be tutorial
I’m renting the R5C and dual fisheye lens next week to do some testing for an upcoming VR projects, and your videos have been very helpful. Thank you! I also am adding a vote for anaglyph playback on the new R5II
As an R5C owner i'm happy the R5 Mark II has been released but what I really want is an R5C Mark II. It would've been great if they released both cameras at the same time so we could choose the best one for our needs, but alas that's probably too much to expect from Canon!
I don't see there is ever an R5C Mark II. R5C is a niche product and very necessary 3 years ago to bridge the missing gap. Now tho, beside run time, R5 II overshine in every aspect. I think Canon might go super professional instead of making another middle product. I do love the idea of R5 C Mark II as anything else we can not afford it.
I can't wait to see your comparison in low-light conditions and the new noise reduction feature vs the R5-C! This is a HUGE issue for me with the R5C / dual fish eye lense, even with post-production editing there's always a lot of noise unless I'm in perfect lighting conditions.
I just tried using the new image stabilization features in the EOS VR Utility to stabilize footage shot on my Canon R5ii/dual fisheye lens on a DJI RS3 mini gimbal... it significantly decreases the FOV. Lesson learned-- always try to shoot VR180 on a tripod, or perhaps a more professional gimbal. Something similar would happen with the Insta360 EVO footage processed with the in-app "flow state stabilization" -- somehow it seemed to maintain the FOV but noticeably decreased the resolution.
Yes FOV is needed for stabilization - as you need extra footage to move the image lol. You can get a wider result in Mistika as EOS VR utility lean on the "safe" side. But at least the stabilization is good and now we can handheld or gimbal it. There is no better gimbal btw, what you have is what I use and it is good or the best unless you want to use a vertical stabilization method as well or ARRI trinity.
Great review! If Canon is reading I'll adda vote to get the leveling feature added, also to make it work quickly with the auto-focus VR lens. I have a Vision Pro and have been experimenting with some 3D video, I especially love the idea mentioned in this video of super-res VR180 Timelapse videos - Apple just recently released an immersive video with hot air balloons and by far the clearest part of that video was sunrise timelapses of balloons taking off at dawn, I have to wonder if they had early versions of this camera...
Thanks for the review. Open gate and raw image photo while filming video instead of jpeg would be drop mic feature certainly for hybrid (wedding) creators 😊
Excellent video. Question, did you notice any improvements in video codec for sharper or clearer footage compared to R5C? I’ve been shooting allot with the R5C codec and feel the Calf footage that you shared is sharper.
@@hughhou When comparing Still’s and Video shot with the Canon Dual Fish Eye, the stills are much cleaner and sharper. That’s what sparked the curiosity to see if their may be improvements, thank you :)
Another amazing video! Would love to see a video on how to stitch together dual action cam (such as GoPro Hero 12) footage in Davini Resolve Especially using their native stereoscopic tools… how to sync left and right, timecodes, built in anaglyph in color tab, etc… Keep it up!
Thanks Hugh for another great video! Question regarding the Canon RF-S 3.9mm mounted on R5 Mark II. For videos, you showed already it is limited to 4K on the R5 Mark II. But can you take photos in the full 8K resolution with it? If so, could you please share one to download?
Can you put the new LP-E6P battery in the R5C and record 8K 60- so you don’t need a PD rated power source? And how many stops of actual, clean, usable stops of dynamic range does the R5 markii have?
If you were to buy a camera today for documentary/short films, travel vlogs, and family pictures. Would you recommend Canon R5 Mark 2 or Sony fx3 any other suggestions
Hey I really like your videos. What is unclear for me is how to watch the 180 degree videos on Apple Vision Pro. Can you do a tutorial on the workflow from the point where I’ve rendert the video to the point where I want to watch the video on Apple Vision Pro. Because I want to watch the 180 degree videos like I can do in Apple TV.
Oh yes! Just download the free Kandao XR or SpatialGen and download some immersive 180 to watch it. It’s only support local playback now but streaming provider might coming soon and also Google is making new RUclips on it as well. It just take time
Your videos are so full of awesome information! Do you know an app or software that can be used to watch 360 videos on the phone or through a visor like the Oculus? My solution right now is to upload the 360 video to youtube and play it from there but i wonder if there are apps or programs for this because youtube lowers the quality of the video too much.
I always wondered if the new 3.2mm lens would work on any other cameras. I mean sure it doesn't have autofocus, but it is a lot cheaper! I would like to see more on the 3.2mm lens on different cameras please
Exciting! I've been looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this camera and the new sensor. I've always been disappointed by the amount of noise with R5C footage. Level - I can't believe the level goes off when you hit record. Terrible! Bring back the level Canon! I was surprised to hear 6k max recording so very pleased to see you can do 8k 60fps. To do that without external battery sounds like a dream! Oh man. I want this camera! I wonder how it will compare to the C400. That built-in ND system on the C400 would be sooo nice.
I really don’t think C400 can complete with R5 Mark II. Resolution is everything in VR. 2K missing is a lot of pixels when we chasing 16K for Vision Pro. The upscale is nut when they take lens, sensor pipeline into consideration. So much better than Topaz. I hope they get us Video as well - and rumor they are working on it!!! A deep learning from lens level will be insane
Hugh - Very informative as always. Many thanks for all you do. Quick question... after I have upscaled an image, the EOS VR Utility does not recognize it anymore as a 180 VR image. It recognizes the first saved image after the noise reduction.... but not the upscaled file. Any idea what I am doing wrong?
Thanks Hugh 🤗 I have a R5c and I don‘t know if I should trade in for the R52 🤷♂️ sure I will missing the shutter angle, Level and 4k 60fps „fine“ version 😞
I have tve R5C and ill be grabbing this too (already pre ordered) Wonder if i could rig this to use on a motorcycle ride :) With the 4 channel audio is it possible to use my Rode NT-SF1 for ambisonic directly to the video and no longer nees my Zoom F6? Id assume you would need a XLR hot shoe at minimum to do that and that is just as bulky probably.
My focus is entirely on Immersive/spatial video intended for viewing on the Apple Vision Pro. So do I understand correctly that this R5 Mark II will work just as well as the R7 for that purpose? I am quickly approaching the time when I have to choose between the two cameras, and from the announcement on WWDC24, I thought I understood that the R7 was the camera to buy to get into spatial video for the Apple Vision Pro. But after watching this wonderfully informative video on the R5 Mark II, Perhaps this camera will work just as well as the R7 for spatial video intended to produce video for the Apple Visio Pro? Please advise.
Spatial video yes R7. This R5 II is immersive 180 the one you saw Apple produced. Also this is true 8K way higher quality. You can potentially reframe into spatial video but the new R7 lens (not release yet) will be better still.
It's time to make the LCD bigger (Blackmagic does it perfect so figure it out) - also needs to be tilt and flip - always hits the HDMI cable when filming
*sighs* hey do you know if there is a insta360 pro 3 coming out? Can you do 3d 360 with the 2 X4s in post production? Just wondering. Looking for a 3d 360 camera at 8K without breaking the bank.
Sorry, sometimes I'm so slow on the uptake. I thought spatial and immersive video were pretty much the same. Now I get it....I think. Spatial seems more for those times with the family and kids where the effect tends to make the viewer feel as if he's there, but watching from a short distance away. Whereas immersive is where one feels as if he's actually in the video and could reach out and touch or actually be bitten by a dinosaur or a rhino, or walk on the grass he's virtually standing on. That makes my choice somewhat easier since IMMERSIVE is (mostly) what I want to do. I suppose now the question is, does one buy the Canon R5 Mark II, or wait for the Blackmagicdesign Immersive camera, supposedly due out before the end of the year? I think I'll wait and see what Hugh says after he tries the Blackmagicdesign Immersive camera, once it is released. Sound reasonable? Meanwhile I'm gonna watch this video several more time to see what else I can absorb.
Just to put it out there the blackmagic 180 camera is gonna be REALLY expensive - like probably above 20K - 100K USD as it is a professional camera. If you have the budget then wait. But 99.9% of this camera is prob gonna be in the rental house for project that has Apple Budget... For the mortal, Canon is the most afforable option
Eye Control and a stacked sensor would be nice too (since I’m not the target 8k full frame user) But Canon for sure moving up with this type of immersive creation features
You right now only make video like with this camera and sideload into AVP. I have ton of tutorials on this channel about that. There is no RUclips for Vision Pro yet but Google is working on it last time I heard.
It's funny they call it "VR preview" when there's really nothing VR about it. At first I thought it was going to be some kind of companion app where you can connect the camera to a headset and live preview in VR without 3rd party software. Maybe next time?
Features are great. The UI is ludicrously awful. Do they have an app that makes all these features easier to access on your phone? Great shirt, BTW. Leveling is extremely important for VR. I get double vision and an immediate headache if the video is not level. I end up tilting my head which fixes it.
Yes I won’t trust that too much tho. I think the cooling fan is not in production yet. They must allow more than 21 min recording! Also CFepress overheat is the problem as well. They now has new tech to make it cooler should be release soon.
Hopefully the production cooling grip ends up adding more than 3 minutes to the record time! Up until I saw this video, I had planned to replace my r5c. But since the cooling grip seems kind of pointless I’ll probably cancel my pre order and wait and see.
Do anyone have the same problem like me to use the IS while filming with r5MKII and Dualfisheye 5.2 ? This option in the menue is grey , i can't start them. And also not use with VR Utility , Does someone an solution for this or knows what i could do wrong with this ?
Oh shoot I have the same issue. Where is IS in the menu gray out btw? According to Canon - the IS is automatic turn on with data that can be use by EOS VR Utility - but I tested and do not think there is stabilization in EOS VR Utility. If you find out why please let us know as well. I think we just need a new firmware update
I can’t start IS in the r5mk2 under the camera menu thing it was in the middle from point 7 or 8/10 ( i didn’t have it in my hands right now , and if i try , the error message comes that the reason is because of the connected lens .doesnt make sense for me , but what should i do with this information? which firmware do you have on the camera and on the lens ?
For anyone who hasn't experienced 180 VR videos, you are missing out; especially if it's in 3D and 4k/8k.
When done right, it's as close to the feeling of being somewhere as you can get. There's a reason Hou says you need special equipment when moving. The more real something looks, the more your brain is convinced you are and your inner ear says you're not and you get sick. So this tech isn't the gimmick that 3D TVs were. Although, I'm so glad they made them because I've built up quite a library of 3D movies for virtual theaters (if ONLY they were in 4k!). I remember trying a 3D TV at Best Buy and thinking "This isn't going to last". I'm not thinking that with 180/360 3D VR.
Now I have no idea if this tech will ever go mainstream (main reason I haven't started shooting content). The hardware is still too heavy, uncomfortable, complicated to use (for non-techies), and expensive (same for those that film).
But this tech isn't dying. It delivers an experience like nothing else. I've never visited Paris, but thanks to Hou, I felt how cramped and creepy the underground skull-filled tombs were. I've never visited New York or Japan, but I've experienced it a ton of times thanks to Slice of Life and RUclips. Yesterday, I was so close to Stonehenge, I could see the tiny plants growing out of the stone. A month ago, I was about a foot away from the face of a tiger and panther.
These are things my poor butt would've likely died never having experienced. Looking at it on TV/monitor is NOT the same. With a screen, the person filming chooses what you see. With this tech, you choose what to focus on.
I just hope the tech takes off enough to make tv shows/movies because the immersion potential is limitless.
Wow very well said 🙏🏼
I also count on your optimism.
18 min recording in 8k 60fps is very little recording time. Just preparing the camera to record already consumes that time. How long should you wait for the camera to cool down to record another 18 min? The Clog2 is more difficult to expose and also has more noise. I think the overheating problem is present again as in the Canon R5. To record in VR180 you will want 8k 60 fps to have the highest image quality and 60fps is simply necessary in VR. The R5C has no overheating problems. Clearly the R5 Mark II is more oriented to photography with great advances in video. I think it is better to buy the R5C to record in VR180 or wait for the R5C Mark II.
So R5 C also has the same problem for 8K 60fps over 20-min continue recording depend on the power soluiton you use. They all have the same problem. The battery grip as it is not final production so it might change thing. Also AV is making card that does not generate so much heat that will help. It is not all fall on Canon.
@@hughhou So do you think Canon R5 mark II is a better camera for shooting VR180 videos? It has many advancements in video features like: 8k zoom, VR preview, Clog2, Digital IS (I prefer a gimbal for better results), Full-Hdmi, but it loses others like dual iso, cinema menus, from the R5C (I don 't want to talk about the oversampling 4k fine mode of the R5C because 8K gives better results in VR180)
Let’s wait for the BM URSA to bring some heat on the table
AA
A new video is going up tomorrow to answer all these questions btw in more details lab test.
Wow, this is mind blowing what Canon have done here! The level feature along with the histogram during recording is absolutely required! Looks like I need to get the bidirectional microphone! Thanks for putting this together, it’s wild!
You do! Both Rode and the famous German brand (start with the S that I can’t spell) has a really good one. Since Dolby actually place audio source with in Vision Pro instead of programming in space. So it’s better to capture at camera point for coverage.
@@hughhou lol
Thanks for your review Hugh: Is there a workflow from R5 Mk 2 + Dual Lens >> VR Utility >> DaVinci >> Spatial GUI >> Apple Vision Pro?
Yes. This new video is exactly how it create: ruclips.net/video/2Swz5MzVgNA/видео.htmlsi=_7w5kl6TfLc2V0PL - I push out the example video first and next will be tutorial
I’m renting the R5C and dual fisheye lens next week to do some testing for an upcoming VR projects, and your videos have been very helpful. Thank you! I also am adding a vote for anaglyph playback on the new R5II
As an R5C owner i'm happy the R5 Mark II has been released but what I really want is an R5C Mark II. It would've been great if they released both cameras at the same time so we could choose the best one for our needs, but alas that's probably too much to expect from Canon!
I don't see there is ever an R5C Mark II. R5C is a niche product and very necessary 3 years ago to bridge the missing gap. Now tho, beside run time, R5 II overshine in every aspect. I think Canon might go super professional instead of making another middle product. I do love the idea of R5 C Mark II as anything else we can not afford it.
Best review! Finally, someone explained the upscaling and looking on VR.
Glad you think so!
I can't wait to see your comparison in low-light conditions and the new noise reduction feature vs the R5-C! This is a HUGE issue for me with the R5C / dual fish eye lense, even with post-production editing there's always a lot of noise unless I'm in perfect lighting conditions.
What do you mean the "new noise reduction" feature?
Great, looking forward to call it my own.
Do you know wether it is possible to have a live view on meta quest 3?
I am working on that so soon.
I just tried using the new image stabilization features in the EOS VR Utility to stabilize footage shot on my Canon R5ii/dual fisheye lens on a DJI RS3 mini gimbal... it significantly decreases the FOV. Lesson learned-- always try to shoot VR180 on a tripod, or perhaps a more professional gimbal. Something similar would happen with the Insta360 EVO footage processed with the in-app "flow state stabilization" -- somehow it seemed to maintain the FOV but noticeably decreased the resolution.
Yes FOV is needed for stabilization - as you need extra footage to move the image lol. You can get a wider result in Mistika as EOS VR utility lean on the "safe" side. But at least the stabilization is good and now we can handheld or gimbal it. There is no better gimbal btw, what you have is what I use and it is good or the best unless you want to use a vertical stabilization method as well or ARRI trinity.
@@hughhou Awesome, thanks Hugh!
Yes, the leveling feature is critical. Canon: please restore!
is IS available when shooting 8k RAW? or 4k RAW
8K Raw.
Great review. Can you zoom in during playback on normal 8k RAW or only VR one?
You can do normal 8K as well. Just no more zoom limit on RAW
Great review! If Canon is reading I'll adda vote to get the leveling feature added, also to make it work quickly with the auto-focus VR lens. I have a Vision Pro and have been experimenting with some 3D video, I especially love the idea mentioned in this video of super-res VR180 Timelapse videos - Apple just recently released an immersive video with hot air balloons and by far the clearest part of that video was sunrise timelapses of balloons taking off at dawn, I have to wonder if they had early versions of this camera...
Probably - But I know exactly how they did it so I will make a tutorial soon.
Will you please do extensive overheating test and dynamic range test in both clog2 and clog3. Thank you.
Great suggestion! Will do!
Okay, now this is my perfect camera.
Nice 👍🏻
Thanks for the review. Open gate and raw image photo while filming video instead of jpeg would be drop mic feature certainly for hybrid (wedding) creators 😊
These are great features I need to mention in my next video. Thanks fo the tips!
Excellent video. Question, did you notice any improvements in video codec for sharper or clearer footage compared to R5C? I’ve been shooting allot with the R5C codec and feel the Calf footage that you shared is sharper.
This can be due to lens - R5 II right now is very similar to R5C.
@@hughhou When comparing Still’s and Video shot with the Canon Dual Fish Eye, the stills are much cleaner and sharper. That’s what sparked the curiosity to see if their may be improvements, thank you :)
Another amazing video!
Would love to see a video on how to stitch together dual action cam (such as GoPro Hero 12) footage in Davini Resolve
Especially using their native stereoscopic tools… how to sync left and right, timecodes, built in anaglyph in color tab, etc…
Keep it up!
Those are coming when we go tho all the new cameras 😅
Thanks Hugh for another great video! Question regarding the Canon RF-S 3.9mm mounted on R5 Mark II. For videos, you showed already it is limited to 4K on the R5 Mark II. But can you take photos in the full 8K resolution with it? If so, could you please share one to download?
I don't think it can neither unfortunately. Also 4K limited b/c of sensor coverage.
Can you put the new LP-E6P battery in the R5C and record 8K 60- so you don’t need a PD rated power source? And how many stops of actual, clean, usable stops of dynamic range does the R5 markii have?
Nope! I won’t try that neither. Might fire the R5C
@@hughhou Where do you find the info on that? Can’t find anything online- and the Canon reps I spoke with don’t know.
We need a way to jack in a VR headset to the camera to have a live stereo stitch preview… that’s the dream
I do…tutorial is coming on all camera 😅 - I am slow in making tutorials but I do got a lot figured out already.
@@hughhou Hugh you are a legend
If you were to buy a camera today for documentary/short films, travel vlogs, and family pictures. Would you recommend Canon R5 Mark 2 or Sony fx3 any other suggestions
Canon R6 Mark II
I personally will go with R5 Mark II - FX3 is now 2 years old?
Hey I really like your videos. What is unclear for me is how to watch the 180 degree videos on Apple Vision Pro. Can you do a tutorial on the workflow from the point where I’ve rendert the video to the point where I want to watch the video on Apple Vision Pro. Because I want to watch the 180 degree videos like I can do in Apple TV.
Oh yes! Just download the free Kandao XR or SpatialGen and download some immersive 180 to watch it. It’s only support local playback now but streaming provider might coming soon and also Google is making new RUclips on it as well. It just take time
What gimbal do recommend to use exclusively for vr180 with the r5ii?
Current I use this as the light actually come in handy: ruclips.net/video/5YFRfhjXwiA/видео.htmlsi=IpCnQA4wSCEd-Q5m
Your videos are so full of awesome information!
Do you know an app or software that can be used to watch 360 videos on the phone or through a visor like the Oculus? My solution right now is to upload the 360 video to youtube and play it from there but i wonder if there are apps or programs for this because youtube lowers the quality of the video too much.
Yes Skybox VR Player - I have a video for it
@@hughhou I'll go watch it! Thank you very much :D
Thx for your very very detail information 🎉
My pleasure 😊
I always wondered if the new 3.2mm lens would work on any other cameras. I mean sure it doesn't have autofocus, but it is a lot cheaper! I would like to see more on the 3.2mm lens on different cameras please
I think is a firmware away for support. R5 Mark 2 suppose other APSC lens in 4K Fine - so it’s no brainer for Canon just unlock it.
Exciting! I've been looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this camera and the new sensor. I've always been disappointed by the amount of noise with R5C footage.
Level - I can't believe the level goes off when you hit record. Terrible! Bring back the level Canon!
I was surprised to hear 6k max recording so very pleased to see you can do 8k 60fps. To do that without external battery sounds like a dream!
Oh man. I want this camera! I wonder how it will compare to the C400. That built-in ND system on the C400 would be sooo nice.
I really don’t think C400 can complete with R5 Mark II. Resolution is everything in VR. 2K missing is a lot of pixels when we chasing 16K for Vision Pro. The upscale is nut when they take lens, sensor pipeline into consideration. So much better than Topaz. I hope they get us Video as well - and rumor they are working on it!!! A deep learning from lens level will be insane
Hugh - Very informative as always. Many thanks for all you do.
Quick question... after I have upscaled an image, the EOS VR Utility does not recognize it anymore as a 180 VR image. It recognizes the first saved image after the noise reduction.... but not the upscaled file. Any idea what I am doing wrong?
It is a know bug - they strip out the metadata. I reported that but please also report it on your end so they can fix it.
Thank you ! Well done as always!
Our pleasure!
Thanks Hugh 🤗 I have a R5c and I don‘t know if I should trade in for the R52 🤷♂️ sure I will missing the shutter angle, Level and 4k 60fps „fine“ version 😞
Yes, I don’t think you do for now. Also recording limit.
R5 II is more for ppl has R5
@@hughhou Thank you. My wallet will be happy 😂 But is there a difference between the quality between the raw video? (R52 vs R5c)
That is coming up tomorrow for lab test and comparison.
Dude this is essential and exactly what I needed. You rock 🤘
Glad it helped!
I have tve R5C and ill be grabbing this too (already pre ordered)
Wonder if i could rig this to use on a motorcycle ride :)
With the 4 channel audio is it possible to use my Rode NT-SF1 for ambisonic directly to the video and no longer nees my Zoom F6? Id assume you would need a XLR hot shoe at minimum to do that and that is just as bulky probably.
Oh no, it do not have 4 channel input - only 2 channels.
I am planning to buy R5c or do I wait for R5 mark II and this is going to be my first camera for VR production
Long record(unlimited ) R5C, short recording (18-21 min) R5 II is much better than R5C
@@williamtseung295 thank you for the advice
Yes run time is an issue. But R5 II is a lot smaller as well forgot to mention in the video. It’s different use case.
@canon We need 1:1 aspect ratio for 8-15 f4L full frame fisheye please. 🙏
Haha me too! I do heard rumor they are making it.
Great vid. Can you bake in the user LUTs or are they just for viewing on the LCD? Thanks.
My focus is entirely on Immersive/spatial video intended for viewing on the Apple Vision Pro. So do I understand correctly that this R5 Mark II will work just as well as the R7 for that purpose? I am quickly approaching the time when I have to choose between the two cameras, and from the announcement on WWDC24, I thought I understood that the R7 was the camera to buy to get into spatial video for the Apple Vision Pro. But after watching this wonderfully informative video on the R5 Mark II, Perhaps this camera will work just as well as the R7 for spatial video intended to produce video for the Apple Visio Pro? Please advise.
Spatial video yes R7. This R5 II is immersive 180 the one you saw Apple produced. Also this is true 8K way higher quality. You can potentially reframe into spatial video but the new R7 lens (not release yet) will be better still.
@@hughhou is this rumoured lens full frame?
How do you turn on IBIS with the canon VR180 lenses? I get the message that lenses are incompatible with the in body IS.
It is automatically on. Are you on the latest firmware? You should not need to do anything.
@@hughhou firmware 1.0. When I open the quick menu. I can see the icon with the motion hand OFF and if I select it it gives the lenses limitation.
It's time to make the LCD bigger (Blackmagic does it perfect so figure it out) - also needs to be tilt and flip - always hits the HDMI cable when filming
I use a 7-inch display externally. This camera def need external display and fully rigged it up.
@@hughhou would be nice to have a bigger screen on the cam itself
Cool, thanks Hugh!
Can R5M2 do autofocus for VR with lenses?
nope!
looking forward to the next review
Hugh, out of curiosity, is the Canon LP-E6P Lithium-Ion Battery compatible on the R5C?
I don't think so. But I will try.
我们喜欢佳能（VR180），讲述很好！非常感谢！
*sighs* hey do you know if there is a insta360 pro 3 coming out? Can you do 3d 360 with the 2 X4s in post production? Just wondering. Looking for a 3d 360 camera at 8K without breaking the bank.
No news on Pro 3 and you can not use 2X X4 for 3D :(
Wow it does everything and a half
Almost everything. I still so used to the EOS cinema menu. Also I do wish 60fps without RAW… it burn tho data like crazy.
@@hughhou 60fps RAW is a good point; do you recommend a particular SD Card? How would you budget for this coming in clean with no gear or accessories?
He is not joking about the data. Tried raw and BLEW THOUGH DATA. like double my RED Komodo data
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Sorry, sometimes I'm so slow on the uptake. I thought spatial and immersive video were pretty much the same. Now I get it....I think. Spatial seems more for those times with the family and kids where the effect tends to make the viewer feel as if he's there, but watching from a short distance away. Whereas immersive is where one feels as if he's actually in the video and could reach out and touch or actually be bitten by a dinosaur or a rhino, or walk on the grass he's virtually standing on.
That makes my choice somewhat easier since IMMERSIVE is (mostly) what I want to do. I suppose now the question is, does one buy the Canon R5 Mark II, or wait for the Blackmagicdesign Immersive camera, supposedly due out before the end of the year?
I think I'll wait and see what Hugh says after he tries the Blackmagicdesign Immersive camera, once it is released. Sound reasonable?
Meanwhile I'm gonna watch this video several more time to see what else I can absorb.
Just to put it out there the blackmagic 180 camera is gonna be REALLY expensive - like probably above 20K - 100K USD as it is a professional camera. If you have the budget then wait. But 99.9% of this camera is prob gonna be in the rental house for project that has Apple Budget... For the mortal, Canon is the most afforable option
I hope most of these features make it into the R7 Mk II
I hope so tooo!!!
Eye Control and a stacked sensor would be nice too (since I’m not the target 8k full frame user) But Canon for sure moving up with this type of immersive creation features
how do you publish your videos to Apple Vision Pro?
You right now only make video like with this camera and sideload into AVP. I have ton of tutorials on this channel about that. There is no RUclips for Vision Pro yet but Google is working on it last time I heard.
It's funny they call it "VR preview" when there's really nothing VR about it. At first I thought it was going to be some kind of companion app where you can connect the camera to a headset and live preview in VR without 3rd party software. Maybe next time?
I just not allow to say anything yet lol. This is more for in camera mono preview.
Hi Hugh, EOS VR Utility 1.4.1 won't handle the 16k jpg which R5 mark ii upscaled for me, any solutions? Thx
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Features are great. The UI is ludicrously awful. Do they have an app that makes all these features easier to access on your phone? Great shirt, BTW.
Leveling is extremely important for VR. I get double vision and an immediate headache if the video is not level. I end up tilting my head which fixes it.
Oh yes they have Canon Connect! I will demo it in my next tutorial
Would like for you to test the recording limit of 8k60 raw, the published 21 min even with the cooling fan doesn't sound great vs r5c
Yes I won’t trust that too much tho. I think the cooling fan is not in production yet. They must allow more than 21 min recording! Also CFepress overheat is the problem as well. They now has new tech to make it cooler should be release soon.
Hopefully the production cooling grip ends up adding more than 3 minutes to the record time! Up until I saw this video, I had planned to replace my r5c. But since the cooling grip seems kind of pointless I’ll probably cancel my pre order and wait and see.
Do anyone have the same problem like me to use the IS while filming with r5MKII and Dualfisheye 5.2 ? This option in the menue is grey , i can't start them. And also not use with VR Utility , Does someone an solution for this or knows what i could do wrong with this ?
Oh shoot I have the same issue. Where is IS in the menu gray out btw? According to Canon - the IS is automatic turn on with data that can be use by EOS VR Utility - but I tested and do not think there is stabilization in EOS VR Utility. If you find out why please let us know as well. I think we just need a new firmware update
I can’t start IS in the r5mk2 under the camera menu thing it was in the middle from point 7 or 8/10 ( i didn’t have it in my hands right now , and if i try , the error message comes that the reason is because of the connected lens .doesnt make sense for me , but what should i do with this information? which firmware do you have on the camera and on the lens ?
Wonderful!
Is it possible to record 8K 60 without RAW?
No unfortunately. I think it’s a codec limit.
Also only RAW light not full RAW neither.
@@hughhouaround how much capacity does RAW light take up in recording time?
@@mattm381 52min = 1TB for 8k 60fps Canon RAW LT (in the R5C)
EOS VR Utility plugin for DaVinci
VR preview for R5C
R5C support RF-s 7.8mm F4 Dual fisheye
This will be huge for DaVinci!! Yes!!
when we can use EOS VR Utility plugin for DavVnci ?
😢 it’s feeling my R5C is useless now 😢
Well, it’s still great! R5II is not cheap lol
I wish it had ProRes RAW
It does with external monitor recording as the HDMI full size output 8K raw video!
we need RAW stitching and upscaling
RAW can just save as jpg and then upscale their. You can edit full RAW photo in the camera btw - like a mini lightroom inside.
@@hughhou but once it's jpg it loses quality
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OK but still you need gimbal. That is for minor shakes
R5 MARK II doesn't support IBIS HIgh Resolution shooting which is a big downgrade compared to MARK I.
I am only talking about VR lens here - VR lens never support any IBIS as how fisheye and 3D works.
Who gives a shit about dual fisheye lenses...
Lots of people actually lol.