Don’t Win A Christmas Tree Throwing Contest If You’re Claiming Disability!

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Комментарии • 240

  • @LegalEagle
    @LegalEagle  2 месяца назад +50

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    • @DestroyTeamAvolition
      @DestroyTeamAvolition 2 месяца назад +1

      Her legging clearly state "I just cant"

    • @tinafreeman6937
      @tinafreeman6937 Месяц назад

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    • @ragnarokelerm
      @ragnarokelerm Месяц назад

      If it was in Ireland than it was euro

  • @JPgene_
    @JPgene_ Месяц назад +975

    I had a lawyer for an insurance company try to use my social media to prove I wasn't injured.
    The best they got was "you went to the movies with friends 2 weeks after your accident"
    My lawyer and me were both like, "you can watch a movie while injured" lol

    • @lazyperfectionist3978
      @lazyperfectionist3978 Месяц назад +93

      That's pretty funny to me, I literally went to the movies by myself the same week I came out of surgery for my left wrist when I was 16, didn't even wait for the physio appointment to remove the plastercast I'd woken up in post-surgery. Like, going to the movies was such a non-hassle I could do it one handed 😂

    • @HildeTheOkayish
      @HildeTheOkayish Месяц назад +86

      Depending on where you live movie theaters are even required to be accessible for people with disabilities. People who are completely paralysed can still go to a theater. As long as they either have help or can still control an electric wheelchair some way. What a bizarre argument by them

    • @danielmorton9956
      @danielmorton9956 Месяц назад +20

      ​@lazyperfectionist3978 I can hear a cross examination. "Would it be possible for someone with friends to go to the theater with the assistance of friends?" "Okay so you would agree that these photos show that lazy is not more impaired then someone who lost all their limbs? "

    • @VoxAstra-qk4jz
      @VoxAstra-qk4jz Месяц назад +7

      You're injured. That means you lay in bed all day being depressed. Otherwise, it's not real.

    • @caihah.1404
      @caihah.1404 Месяц назад +7

      My illness left me with the endurance of a 90 year old, but as a former athlete, I have the skill and reflexes, and when I'm feeling okay I can still do pretty impressive things... for a VERY short span of time. So... now I have to wonder if some asshat would say I'm not really disabled.

  • @eightmagpies
    @eightmagpies Месяц назад +404

    You can be too injured to work daily but also not too injured to do occasional activities. But if you're filling for disability you had better pretend you can't move ever because the concept of having intermittent symptoms seems to be too confusing for most people.

    • @angelikaskoroszyn8495
      @angelikaskoroszyn8495 Месяц назад +64

      While it's true I don't think that anyone with intermittent injuries participates in a Christmas Tree throwing competition

    • @tricksterjoy9740
      @tricksterjoy9740 Месяц назад +37

      Yeah I can work 2-4 or so hours a day of physically demanding labor 4 days a week, and around 6 hours of non physically demanding work 4 days a week. Any more then that and/or if I don’t take breaks when I need them, my body will almost literally start falling apart and I will literally become violently Ill for weeks.
      That’s all the MOST I can work, and that still puts me at a considerable risk. I want to work, but it just isn’t compatible with me being healthy and having quality of life health wise.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 Месяц назад +35

      @@angelikaskoroszyn8495 Thats because of the bigotry you have towards the disabled, its ok most people have it.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 Месяц назад +15

      @@angelikaskoroszyn8495 I mean, its not OK its really bad and its an insane judgemental thing to do to already hurt people.

    • @valolafson6035
      @valolafson6035 Месяц назад +23

      ​@@johnsimth6587 But also, if she was unable to lift a bag, how did she lift a Christmas tree?

  • @TheFounderUtopia
    @TheFounderUtopia Месяц назад +22

    That's not how disabilities work, though. It was doesn't mean you can't do anything, it means you pay a price for doing them. This whole system is based on malicious, wilful ignorance.

    • @nope19568
      @nope19568 Месяц назад +8

      if youre not nearly dead apparently it means your fine to most people here😂

  • @theaureliasys6362
    @theaureliasys6362 Месяц назад +16

    I wish people understood the concept of HAVING A GOOD DAY.
    chronic injuries can be fine for 1 day and crushingly bad for 364 days.
    Furthermore: doing one thing and recovering for a week because you overextended, doesn't mean you can do 9 to 5 5/7 days a week for years.

  • @SirberusKhaos
    @SirberusKhaos Месяц назад +133

    I loved the day a disability judge told me "You could get a job, your condition would prevent you from Keeping one, but you could get hired. the law say unable to get a job and you could. disability denied" I feel like that was not the rules as intended... but I don't really use social media the very limited i did mostly consisted of rants about being in pain and having to stay home and not do things I would rather have done. social media is is no fun if all your selfies would just be you in bed in the dark >.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 Месяц назад +37

      Exactly, the battle is uphill NOT because people "fake" like its claimed here but because of GREED and bigotry towards the disabled. The Judge in your case perverted the law to suite his personal biases, the intent is clearly about holding a job but his ruling was a form of punishment BECAUSE you're disabled.
      One could interpret from this video a woman willing to sacrifice pain for charity.

    • @solosynapse
      @solosynapse Месяц назад +6

      @@johnsimth6587 Except that's not the only evidence, and there's no medical validation of her claims.
      Yes, insurance companies suck (less so in the UK), but the idea that nobody has ever faked an injury for fraudulent purposes is naive.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 Месяц назад +12

      @@solosynapse Look at the prejudice in this post, its digusting. No one has ever spoken to the idea that no one has ever faked an injury, yet thats the narrative being pushed to me. As if the concept, the mere thought that a disabled person might be capable is so disgusting they have to INVENT a fake argument.

    • @ethanomihombre
      @ethanomihombre Месяц назад +4

      @@johnsimth6587Maybe take the temperature down a few notches bud. Personally I don't have a strong opinion on the case, but they weren't even implying what you think they were saying. Take a few breaths before you call someone disgusting or say they're horrible.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 Месяц назад

      @@ethanomihombre The person INVENTED a fake argument so they could discredit my previous statement about how disabled people are discriminated against. They had to invent a fake argument because of their bias, the BS stuff that makes them a bad person. No one argued that there has never been a case of faked injury, no one, but using that as the core of their argument they can pretend so. That way they can pretend to be noble or smart or whatever they are trying to achieve when all they're doing is saying biased/prejudicial nonsense.
      They have ZERO knowledge of the medical claims, they have ZERO knowledge of this full situation but they claim to have it? Why? Because of the bias, because the disabled are prejudiced against constantly throughout all of our combined human history.
      Its so ingrained people invent fake arguments like this person did instead of addressing the actual argument because it causes them frustration.

  • @Phoenix-mh5eo
    @Phoenix-mh5eo Месяц назад +244

    This makes me super angry. This is why insurance companies even have a leg to stand on calling people out for lying about being disabled. My father in law had a multi-hundred pound picnic table dropped on his neck. It didn't paralyze him, but it cause MANY serious physical issues which he received surgery after surgery, treatment after treatment for. It took 20 years for him to get back enough function to go back to work. The insurance/workers comp company HOUNDED him. Stalked him. Tried to deny him any workers comp he was owed.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 Месяц назад +18

      Did your father in law ever once in his life after that accident do ANYTHING that EVER caused him pain? Did anyone film it? Is he now not allowed disability? Like, has he ever gone for a walk after that and now I can argue that his insurance company was right because I saw a single image frame of him not grimacing?

    • @mentalcupcakes8142
      @mentalcupcakes8142 2 дня назад

      That's because insurance companies care about helping one specific kind of people. Shareholders.

  • @guyraveh2712
    @guyraveh2712 2 месяца назад +94

    I have a disability that we don't have any good treatments for, but a main part of the existing treatment is doing lots of sport. So on some days you can find me walking, running, hiking, or swimming - even though I'm in constant pain. On other days, I'm in too much pain or too weak to even make myself a meal, let alone go to work. I'm literally typing this comment from my bed because this is one of those days. Luckily I managed to find a job which pays well enough for my part time work for me to get by. But thinking that because someone tries to improve their function, that they're not disabled and can work fine - is just plain wrong.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 Месяц назад

      Bingo, so many people here just running full throttle into their own bigotry against the disabled.

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 19 дней назад +1

      Well, the accident happened only a couple months before the event, she had said she was bedridden during that time, and then the photo came out years later during the lawsuit after she had already been collecting disability.
      Sure, sometimes a disability can have intermittent symptoms or the treatment can be sports or physical activity, but she claimed to be stuck in bed during the time.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 19 дней назад

      @@casteanpreswyn7528 Yet this photo does not in any fashion reveal the evidence that she can work a full day still.
      Its another variation of oppression onto the already f'n hurt, the disabled. I know we want "justice" because we're told these people exist in mass numbers ripping us all off but the reality is the "mass number" that exists is people not getting treatment for illnesses because the system works against that very aspect.
      For instance, we don't know if this physical activity this moment of work was good for her recovery or not.
      Yet we judge. Why? Because we don[t want to give people the label disabled without them being so crippled they appear as a cartoonish version of their ailment.

    • @Lasair517
      @Lasair517 16 дней назад

      @@casteanpreswyn7528 Yeah that is more damning than what the short is saying. If there is a longer version of this video on his channel, it is hopefully framing this story better than this.

  • @hiddenechoes
    @hiddenechoes Месяц назад +29

    That is really interesting, another example of how people can use social media to their advantage or their detriment.
    I had a weird back injury that led to an inability to do my normal jobs, or stand straight or walk, or sit... It ended up involving overlapping discs and pinched nerves. Once the inflammation settled down the main things I couldn't do were lie flat or sit at a right angle. I ended up changing career paths to find something that did not involve sitting, and while some days I could barely walk, once I used heat, did an hour walk, an hour of targetted muscle strengthening to support the joints that had instability, followed by an hour of stretching I was able to go to some forms of dance and fitness classes and lift some heavy item done with care at the correct angle. The one thing I really couldn't do was sitting for any prolonged time without being in excruciating back and leg pain.
    It's strange how different injuries can work in terms of whether rest or activity helps/hurts. Especially with the different stages of injury and whether or not the tissues affected are contractile fibres.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 Месяц назад +12

      Imagine someone catching a still image photo of you during your hour walk, your hour of stretching or dance. Someone found an image of you during that time with a nice smile.
      So your injuries were all faked? How would that make you personally feel if someone uploaded a video explaining how you're a fake/liar because of this image of you dancing.

    • @hiddenechoes
      @hiddenechoes Месяц назад +6

      @@johnsimth6587 That was one of the questions I hoped my comment would inspire. My narrative is anecdotal so does not count as "evidence" of any kind, but I still hope it makes people think about how they engage with these types of circumstances.

  • @101perspective
    @101perspective Месяц назад +114

    I have a bad back and could toss that tree without any problem. Not that I would. However, if I need to lean over for more than 30 seconds the pain becomes extreme.
    Also, a few times a year I will have these MASSIVE back pains that come out of nowhere that are so bad I have to stay in bed or sitting for days on end.
    So, it's possible she isn't necessarily faking. That said, I'm not going around saying I'm owed 600k+.

    • @Ellie-rx3jt
      @Ellie-rx3jt Месяц назад +10

      I don't think it was specifically the fact that she was able to throw it that got her, so much as it was that the medical evidence she'd presented said she wouldn't be able to. But the reporting is pretty limited, so who knows really

    • @101perspective
      @101perspective Месяц назад +3

      @@Ellie-rx3jt True. But it's also clearly not an exact science. If it was then the possibility of her faking it wouldn't even be on the table. So, while normally she wouldn't be able to do this, it might not mean there wouldn't be times she could... though, all of the time I'm sure she shouldn't... kind of like myself being able to throw that tree but knowing I better not try...lol.
      But yeah, it works both ways also... it does make it easier for her to fake it or at least exaggerate it, so that is always on the table I'm sure in cases like this.
      I'm not a doctor though, I just play one on youtube:)

  • @MagnakayViolet
    @MagnakayViolet Месяц назад +66

    Dr. Glaucomflecken has a channel with videos joking about how insurance companies are practically practicing medicine without a license due to the decisions that they make that affects people's health often forcing people to refuse medication due to exaggerated costs.

    • @BerryTheBnnuy
      @BerryTheBnnuy Месяц назад

      That's an interesting angle. I wonder if it'd hold up in court when trying to sue an insurance company for denying a procedure that doctors call medically necessary.

  • @stephaniedesmond8329
    @stephaniedesmond8329 Месяц назад +51

    My brother works in insurance and he told me once over a few drinks that, although there are lots of people scamming insurance companies, usually it’s the insurance companies screwing over genuinely injured people who can’t work, with some technicality or by dragging out the process until they run out of money to pay legal fees. He’s really upset by the societal emphasis on scammers and the distrust it breeds for insurance claims; it could be compared to wanting everyone accused of murder to be automatically found guilty, just in case some of them get to go free. He said the general public doesn’t necessarily know what it is about this person’s job that the injury prevents them from doing, and we shouldn’t assume their claim is invalid just because they’re not completely laid up 100% of the time.

    • @gwenc1371
      @gwenc1371 Месяц назад +9

      That’s the difficulty. It’s very possible, probably even likely in this situation, this woman is trying to scam money. But it’s also extremely possible that she is able to sustain this level of exertion for a brief moment in the day but not on a regular enough basis to hold a job. And the latter situation is by far the more common one.
      People really do think that folks with disabilities must either be acutely and grotesquely injured, or that they’re literally incapable of doing anything but sitting in a sickbed like a Victorian with a wasting disease.

    • @phill6859
      @phill6859 25 дней назад

      ​@@gwenc1371she said she couldn't lift a heavy bag. If you say you can't do something then you need to make sure there is no evidence that you can.

    • @Lasair517
      @Lasair517 16 дней назад +1

      @@phill6859 But what was the context of that claim she made? Was it really a claim about not being able to lift a heavy bag EVER... or could there be more to her statement that was omitted?

  • @someperson8984
    @someperson8984 Месяц назад +90

    I think it's possible that she wasn't lying. It's possible to push through pain to throw a Christmas tree for one moment, and not be able to maintain that level of pain for an hour so that you can sit in a chair for your job.

    • @hamzasultan96
      @hamzasultan96 Месяц назад +4

      If you can push it for charity, you can push through work. She was claiming lost wages. No dice.

    • @someperson8984
      @someperson8984 Месяц назад +37

      @@hamzasultan96 What kind of job lets you work for 5 seconds a day?

    • @kayleb-oo1ro
      @kayleb-oo1ro Месяц назад +6

      @@someperson8984 thats just bs you know how heavy trees are? if you can lift and throw it but you cant lift a bag without a pain.. she shouldnt be lifting freaking trees to make your disaldty worse..

    • @someperson8984
      @someperson8984 Месяц назад +18

      @@kayleb-oo1ro I think it would be one thing if she were throwing one tree every day, but since it was a one-off, I could see her taking a week or two afterward to recover, for the sake of charity and/or feeling like she'd accomplished something. This is just conjecture, though.

    • @kayleb-oo1ro
      @kayleb-oo1ro Месяц назад +2

      @@someperson8984 thats just bs and she knows it... stop defending people for scamming money..

  • @nyneeveanya8861
    @nyneeveanya8861 Месяц назад +75

    I got injured, had surgery, had to use a cane or walker to get around. Could no longer work in my job field which requires lots of walking, climbing, ladder use. Dr told me to apply for disability. The answer… I was college educated go find a sit down job. That was at 35. Over the next twelve years I developed other health problems related to the injury and went through corrective surgeries. The jobs I could work started at minimum wage of $7.25 which was almost $5.00 less than what I made before. By age 55 I was finally approved for disability and that was based on my last 10 years of work. So I receive less now than I would have if they based it on my work wage when I was physically able to do the job in the field I was educated for.

    • @drasco61084
      @drasco61084 Месяц назад +1

      That is so wrong! Ugh

    • @jannacoyote4246
      @jannacoyote4246 Месяц назад +1

      That’s the Social Security Department for ya’. They look for any excuse they can to deny people what they might really need - even people in worse conditions often get denied, sometimes even cut off after having already been approved for benefits for a while. 🤷🏻‍♀️💜🦮💜🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @SovietReunionYT
    @SovietReunionYT Месяц назад +26

    I hate stuff like this. Just because you can do one thing doesnt mean you can do another. Having a disability generally doesnt mean being bedridden or wheelchair-bound 100% of the time. Like, you could "catch" me playing football or wrestling with my cousin's kids, but I also cant climb up stairs more than 1 floor without giving myself knee pain for the next week. I also cant drive most cars because there isnt enough room for my right leg and I get horrible knee pain after a few minutes. Same for crouching, and I also cant bend over for long before getting back pain. But when I'm not in pain you wouldnt be able to tell I have any physical issues. Especially since I'm young, so people just assume I must be healthy. My own mother doesnt take it seriously and frequently mocks my disabilities. I cant imagine how degrading it would be if I qualified for disability benefits and tried applying.

    • @lockl00p27
      @lockl00p27 20 дней назад

      My good sir, she said she couldn’t lift a bag. She lifted a Christmas tree, without showing any signs of pain. I get that she was faking it, but doing something like that while pretending you’re actually disabled is genuinely stupid

  • @LiamRappaport
    @LiamRappaport Месяц назад +7

    I threw a 15+ foot Christmas tree this year, but it had been drying out since Christmas and was only like 10-15 pounds.

  • @PeterShipley1
    @PeterShipley1 Месяц назад +6

    I know of somebody who is having this problem because the doctor is insisting a bicycle 10 to 15 mi a day to combat the heart disease.
    his company tried to fire him saying he was faking, until you showed up with a note from the Stanford heart center doctor.
    after a few years of disability MetLife is pulling the same shit isn't player did

  • @TheBlueGuard
    @TheBlueGuard Месяц назад +27

    People's attitudes towards anything other than an immediately horrifying or grotesque disability are so deeply ignorant.

  • @subaru4920
    @subaru4920 Месяц назад +19

    This has to be the only time I have ever heard of a photo like this used in a way that sounds justifiable in lawsuit. Usually I hear about photos from social media used to argue that anything the victim did is proof they are doing fine.
    Did the victim need extreme expensive surgery following their injury? Well here is one photo of them walking their dog so clearly they don't need the money.
    After all as we all know people can't push through extreme pain to live their lives. They just lay around paying other people to do everything for them with the money they don't have or need.

  • @leoric21
    @leoric21 Месяц назад +9

    There Are These Things Called Pain Pills. Without Them I Can Barely Walk

  • @dawnmrodgers
    @dawnmrodgers Месяц назад +14

    That’s interesting. What about disabled athletes? I presume that they never claim disability pay because they can earn money from their sports? I’m just curious

    • @valolafson6035
      @valolafson6035 Месяц назад +2

      It would depend on the disability. This woman was saying she could barely get out of bed, or lift heavy bags without pain. If she couldn't life a bag, how could she lift a Christmas tree.

    • @conan4real
      @conan4real Месяц назад

      i don't believe they get disability pay bc they still make money off their disability/can worm a 'normal' job, which disqualifies you from disability pretty fast in most cases if you make more then a (figurative) few pennies every hour. would likely depend on the disability tho bc if its severe enough where it impacts their life in terms of basic daily functions [not related to work/sports] they might be able to still?

    • @JamEngulfer
      @JamEngulfer Месяц назад +6

      @@valolafson6035The way you need to describe and present a disability to get payments or accommodations is essentially a fabrication in almost every case. Real disabilities don’t act like these neat little “can you lift a bag or not” packages. They’re complex and can fluctuate over time, meaning you can still do things that ignorant people might use to claim you’re disabled while still being unable to work because of it.

    • @curtaintreatment3588
      @curtaintreatment3588 Месяц назад +4

      christmas trees aren't heavy though, the growers need them fast so its not exactly dense old growth, 35lbs on the light end. A workplace trash bag could easily be the same or more than that, and the distance thrown sounds more like chance due to the wind. Most disabled people I know are capable of certain shocking athletic feats due to their intense physical therapy, pilates classes are filled with people with metal rods in their bodies, doing stuff that people with no such injury would typically struggle to do. And I don't think that the spectre of fakers is really responsible for people's reactions, for example people fake being rear ended for insurance all the time, but someone with a dent in their trunk is not met with the hostility and skepticism that we have around whether a person is really disabled.

  • @TheRealBelisariusCawl
    @TheRealBelisariusCawl 2 месяца назад +109

    Correction: secretaries, investigators, and interns are checking social media for evidence- not the actual lawyers.

    • @sylviefrancis331
      @sylviefrancis331 2 месяца назад +13

      That's a given. Lawyers have ppl (their team) doing the research (& other steps) for them. Friend of mine is a lawyer. He did his own research for about a year, then couldn't do it anymore at the risk of slowing the process or missing something. At least, here in Canada.
      Have a good one! 🙂

  • @guard13007
    @guard13007 Месяц назад +28

    While this example seems clear-cut because of the exact claims involved, it is scary to imagine a similar thing being used in other cases. It's bad enough that the average person doesn't understand disability. It's even worse how often DOCTORS don't.. but then getting the law involved? It's a mess.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 Месяц назад +19

      Its a still image of her doing something for a brief moment. Its not a representation of her capability to work a full day, its not an image of her without any pain or any restriction (we have no idea) its not an image that shows her level of intoxication/medication (Pain meds) its just an image of a person who could be very disabled doing a physical act.
      I got into a car accident a long time ago, never sued no one, but I have massive issues with my lower back. The other day I went for a hike, it HURT, but I need to do the excercise. If I had sued someone back then and then you took a photo of me smiling at the sunset (inbetween images of me crying and grimacing in pain from the hike) would you claim I'm a big faker? (Even though my spine is literally damaged?)
      The fear here for me is people just agreeing with the lawyers here and acting like this is enough evidence. She claimed she can't get out of bed for half the day, this isn't an image of her out all day. She claimed she couldn't lift things without pain, we don't know her level of pain or level of pain she's taken off with meds (which means you can't have gainful employment if you gotta be high all the time).
      Its just an image of her exerting herself, for a charitable event non the less. I've suffered through a LOT of painful events by being to courteous and helping people, I guess my injuries must be fake because I wasn't still in bed right? When someone asked me to help them move and I did it but was bed ridden for two days after, I guess that was fake?
      See my point.

    • @JamEngulfer
      @JamEngulfer Месяц назад +8

      @@johnsimth6587It could even be that she still can’t lift something because of the disability but the action of throwing something is still possible.

    • @johnsimth6587
      @johnsimth6587 Месяц назад +7

      @@JamEngulfer Exactly. My right shoulder is a mess, many micro tears over a period of time in the service. My motion is limited to a degree and completely lacking real function if I light my arm above my shoulder, the specific muscles are wrecked.
      Now that same arm I can hold at extension a shit ton of weight, engaging different muscles but to the layman "he is carrying in four bags of groceries, his shoulder can't hurt" even though it still does in that motion but I'm capable if I keep my bicep pined to my side and lock my shoulder up.

  • @margotrosendorn6371
    @margotrosendorn6371 2 месяца назад +196

    Ugh...grifters like this make it harder for people with actual handicaps to get the help they need.

    • @anzaca1
      @anzaca1 2 месяца назад +7

      No they don't.

    • @solego5504
      @solego5504 2 месяца назад +58

      ​@@anzaca1they absolutely do. We've been denied for 4 years now, and my wife is a nearly full time wheelchair user, heart issues that cause random fainting, and a few other things going on. Even with a stack of supporting evidence, we are getting denied over and over.

    • @Y2B123
      @Y2B123 2 месяца назад +16

      @@solego5504Sounds like you should sue your insurance company.

    • @solego5504
      @solego5504 2 месяца назад +1

      @me___5796 They aren't denying everything, just enough that suing them is hard. And I am super certain whatever lawyer I could possibly hire is going to have a tough time fighting Aetna's legal team. Also, suing people is HARD. We've had people flat breaking the law, like the kind of blatant discrimination you see in corporate "don't-do-this" videos and they just tied us up I'm court until we couldn't afford to fight it anymore.

    • @orbatos
      @orbatos 2 месяца назад +43

      ​@@solego5504Remember, whatever excuse *can* be made to avoid payment will be. Whether grifters are a problem or not (statistics say they aren't), there is a vested interest in keeping benefits from you, and politicians that are more than happy to take campaign contributions from corporate lobbies to keep it that way.

  • @paulk5670
    @paulk5670 15 дней назад +5

    1. Disabling injuries can have intermittent symptoms that interfere with your ability to productively work on a regular basis but not your ability to take part in physical activities when you're not undergoing a flare.
    2. Some people can participate in physical activities because their pain is managed by heavy narcotics. Being able to appear painfree under heavy narcotics does not mean yoy are fit to work, as your judgement is impaired-hence the cautions around not operating heavy machinery.
    3. The legal system has a lot of 'common-sense' gotcha biases still pervasive in it despite years of experts in other fields advancing our understanding of things like sexual assault (victims can freeze in the moment out of panic- lack of physical evidence of fighting back doesn't mean it was consensual).
    Heck, I know someone who was challenged on a major depressiom diagnosis because there was a social media photo of her taking her dying mother (brain cancer) to a hockey game that was her dying wish, and she was smiling. Not pictured was the devastation it wreaked on her before and after the singular moment that she was able to summon the strength to put on a brave face for a moment to give her mother a moment's peace.
    Insurance companies are scum, as are the lawyers that use dirty tricks to try and deny any and all claims.
    And the adversarial nature of the legal system preys upon those least able to afford proper representation and advocate for themselves.

  • @willsham45
    @willsham45 Месяц назад +2

    wait there are Christmas tree-throwing competitions. How have I never heard of this?

  • @BendyEnby
    @BendyEnby Месяц назад +8

    I somewhat disagree with this judge since chronic pain typically fluctuates and a disabled person should be allowed to choose to do something that exacerbates their pain occasionally (life affirming activity is a human right and can sometimes justify increasing risk, pain, or other symptoms), but should not be required to exacerbate it everyday (which usually leads to more damage) just to afford to survive. Unfortunately, between dynamic disability and the difference between repetitive motion and intentional, stabilized movements more sporadically, it is absolutely possible to be able to compete like this on good days, but not be able to work everyday lifting things.

  • @PADon69
    @PADon69 Месяц назад +1

    There are certain things that you have to avoid doing when you claim disability, file for workmen’s comp, or sue for injuries. The best thing is to avoid anything strenuous and be discreet with social media.

  • @Kuweiyo
    @Kuweiyo 13 дней назад +3

    This is exactly why I do not post on social media. just comment and consume. stay safe friends.

  • @sorchaOtwo
    @sorchaOtwo Месяц назад +2

    Depending on the disability, there can be good days and bad days. Days where you can do more than normal, and days of suffering where you can't do much of anything. At least that's been my personal experience. The case you quote is ridiculous, but what about those of us that experience disability the way I do?

  • @chrisr3570
    @chrisr3570 Месяц назад +2

    I don't know why, but your shorts aren't coming up on my subscribed feed. Sometimes they'll come up on the 'home' page as a suggested video but never where they should with my other subscribed channels

  • @maplelump
    @maplelump Месяц назад +11

    Bro, if you went on my social media, you wouldn't think I'm disabled. I ride horses, and as a veterinary nurse, I have to be able to lift 50lb dogs.
    HOWEVER: I have a fused spine. I have little things I do to make it so I'm not in horrible pain all the time.
    Oh, and I have seizures.
    Social media isn't always the truth.

  • @patrickjordan2233
    @patrickjordan2233 Месяц назад +2

    Remember, insurance companies have lawyers (usually many, many...) hired on as full-time employees...
    Utilizing their time doesn't have a negative ROI on the companies books...since those lawyers are ALREADY employed within said company.. 😁🤔🤔🤔

  • @amyraszipovits810
    @amyraszipovits810 8 дней назад

    My bestie's dad lost his workman's comp after he was seen mowing the lawn. What they didn't see was the days of excruciating pain he was in afterwards. But, he was stubborn and did not want his wife or daughter doing a man's job. His words. What's sad is a neighbor offered to charge $20 a month to mow for him.

  • @GabrielGarcia-pi3hn
    @GabrielGarcia-pi3hn Месяц назад

    Was on a jury years ago. This girl was suing the cruise ship line she had gone on a cruise with because after leaving the pool area she slipped on the deck. While running. Without shoes or sandals. Off of the part of the deck that was textured for people to run on. And was supposedly in so much chronic pain she couldnt do much anymore.
    Anyway she also posted a lot of photos of herself on social media doing things that shouldnt have been possible for her if she was experiencing the amount of chronic pain she said she was.

  • @kevinmarkham6385
    @kevinmarkham6385 16 дней назад +1

    We had a guy in the army pretty much show up to the unit from basic training on crutches. He was on crutches for something like a year. Then someone saw him running around shooting a mosin nagant back home on leave on instagram.

  • @lklobs
    @lklobs Месяц назад +1

    Hey, it was for CHARITY

  • @kaboombox1581
    @kaboombox1581 17 дней назад

    The modern day equivalent of “don’t write down your crime plans”.

  • @solego5504
    @solego5504 2 месяца назад +24

    This! This is why my wife, that is in a wheelchair 75% of the time and will dislocated hold her joints by jumping 6" off the ground, has such a hard time getting disability and insurance approval. I know that is England, but the same garbage in America. There are a lot of ways that people are the same no matter where you go, it's just sad that people being terrible, given half a chance, is one of them.

    • @ohpurpled
      @ohpurpled 2 месяца назад +4

      Limerick is decidedly not England

    • @soldiaz7261
      @soldiaz7261 Месяц назад

      that is not why your wife has a hard time getting approval. she's having a hard time getting approval because the system is designed to deny people benefits as much as possible. if the system wanted to help disabled people, they wouldn't worry about accidentally helping the [extremely rare] liars--they'd refuse to risk disabled people not getting benefits we need to live.
      i'd rather someone with a spinal cord injury who can throw a tree [which some disabled people can do in certain circumstances--not saying this woman is, but the paralympics exist for a reason] get free insurance benefits over a single person starving without benefits. i think pretty much anyone who cares about the wellbeing of disabled people would agree. but those are not the people who make the rules.
      trust me, they will come up with any excuse possible. they accuse undeniably disabled people of faking all the time just so they can justify it, but the truth is, they do not care.

    • @minecraftnerd2175
      @minecraftnerd2175 Месяц назад +4

      That's cool or whatever, but Ireland is not england. They are very different

    • @RiverWilliamson
      @RiverWilliamson Месяц назад +5

      I know an ambulatory wheelchair user, and they basically can't get disability because their limbs work at all

  • @hmrobert7016
    @hmrobert7016 Месяц назад +1

    Odd that the lawsuit was in Sterling when this took place in the Republic of Ireland, which uses Euros... 🤔

    • @fmoore1410
      @fmoore1410 Месяц назад +1

      ... and the displayed figure was actually in Polish Zloty, neither of which are used in Ireland.

  • @user-xr3rb6pn9m
    @user-xr3rb6pn9m Месяц назад +1

    One reason out of many to avoid using social media

  • @Mainyehc
    @Mainyehc 16 дней назад

    Her pants/leggings *did* spell out “I JUST CAN’T”, though, so at least she had her heart in the right place 😂

  • @kimberly_erin
    @kimberly_erin 6 дней назад

    I became disabled after being a landscaper the insurance stopped covering me because their pi had a video of me walking my service dog… 10 yrs later, still have a service dog, still disabled. And yes she still poops 🤦‍♀️

    • @kimberly_erin
      @kimberly_erin 6 дней назад

      It was better for my mental health and unsurprisingly physical health not to fight them anymore. If I could sit in court that long I’d get a job that paid me to do it. Granted if I was able to sit there long enough I would have eventually gotten paid via insurance, but again, I just couldn’t do it. Unfortunately having a permanent disability in the US doesn’t mean you qualify permanently for disability. At any point the government make someone go to another review, with I doctor they’ve never met, who gets to decide if they think we are disabled enough. It’s a life of constant anxiety and paperwork which many of us including myself struggle to keep up with. And ppl ask why are there so many homeless ppl. And why are there so many disabled homeless ppl… this is why.
      did you know to get food stamps you have to prove you have to make under a certain amount, but if you don’t work you have to prove you don’t have a job. If you aren’t getting any sort of retirement or disability pay good luck proving you don’t have a job🤦‍♀️ just saying. I could go on and on. Merca!

  • @jannacoyote4246
    @jannacoyote4246 Месяц назад +4

    Okay. So, the Christmas Tree throwing competition that she entered, and apparently won, was in January of 2018. When was the car accident though? That seems like pretty relevant information, yet it was left out here. Why? 😯❓🤷🏻‍♀️❓😯

    • @Ellie-rx3jt
      @Ellie-rx3jt Месяц назад +1

      Feb 2017, but the claim was that the injury was ongoing. I presume that Ireland has a law like ours in the UK, where if you're found to have intentionally deceived the court you get £0, regardless of what you *would* have been entitled to.

  • @songindarkness
    @songindarkness 2 месяца назад +2

    Speaking of Christmas trees, I would love for you to review the legal issues in the very slow-moving, slightly cheesy but strangely emotionally moving film “The Rooftop Christmas tree” where an old man has a habit of putting his Christmas tree on his rooftop - and he is arrested for refusing to take it down. Would that really happen? If so, would the legal defence in the movie work? Inquiring minds want to know!

    • @orngjce223
      @orngjce223 Месяц назад +1

      You should look up the case of the guy in Britain who installed a shark sculpture on his roof as a protest, and the epic legal battles that ensued. I believe there is a Tom Scott video on it?

  • @coreythepeanut
    @coreythepeanut 23 дня назад

    And that’s why I don’t have active social media accounts

  • @mystic-malevolence
    @mystic-malevolence Месяц назад +5

    Awful take.

  • @yeah_i_likeCartoons
    @yeah_i_likeCartoons Месяц назад

    Checked out your page recently because I remember you were UCLA alum.
    Was kind of hoping to see a video or short addresses the recent events there and whether or not protestors have the Right to public assembly or if LAPD is allowed to use force to get the encampment dispersed.

  • @catgoat6471
    @catgoat6471 Месяц назад

    And that's why I don't do social media. Lol. Not really.

  • @WildDragon144
    @WildDragon144 28 дней назад

    Hey! I had a question regarding Terms of Service policies and some posts I see my family make a lot.
    TL;DR some of the people in my life with a poor understanding of Terms of Service policies will occasionally make copy and paste posts on social media that say something along the lines of "I HEREBY STATE THAT I DO NOT GIVE MY PERMISSION TO USE ANY OF MY PERSONAL DATA OR PHOTOS."
    This doesn't really do anything, right? Like, would it even be something you could point to in a court of law if you'd already agreed to the Terms of Service that likely say you agree they can?
    Sorry if this has been addressed before, I'm just curious.

  • @Hemplify
    @Hemplify Месяц назад +1

    Does HIPAA protect information shared during the trial?

  • @ohpurpled
    @ohpurpled 2 месяца назад +4

    Reporting on something that happened in the Republic to a mostly US audience yet quoting a figure in UK currency. An odd choice Devin.

    • @xander1052
      @xander1052 Месяц назад +1

      and using the symbol for turkish currency

  • @simeonapajarillo6499
    @simeonapajarillo6499 Месяц назад

    My disability is congestive heart failure. Looking at me. I look normal

  • @jessblues848
    @jessblues848 24 дня назад

    I'm with the lady on this one. I walk around with a cane most days, but I can walk without one for an hour or two if I want to show off or do something cool.

  • @amphibiland
    @amphibiland 2 месяца назад +2

    Erm, no.

  • @user-ng2mt2yr1t
    @user-ng2mt2yr1t Месяц назад

    Okay I got a question for you I was born and raised in California I was I'm a native to California born and raised in the Bay area I had a situation with my dad before he died he tried to have me arrested for elder abuse I got two elder abuse charged cases on me and one terrorist threat charge felony on me in California so I'm giving an attorney in California over 300,000 and that attorney has not done finishing cleaning up my cases and getting anything expunged what can I before the judge kicked me out of California

  • @peejicasas
    @peejicasas Месяц назад +86

    I had a client who was a private detective, and he told me 90% of his cases were insurance fraud investigations, and the other 10% were jealous spouses looking for divorceable behavior.

  • @firekite
    @firekite Месяц назад +1

    So what happened to her? Nothing at all?

  • @tnghunter
    @tnghunter Месяц назад

    The "get out of work for life" card got declined. But let's be real, long term, the labor wears down everyone's physical and mental health over time so don't let the government keep increasing the age of retirement hoping we all drop first or I'm going to start making animal farm refrences.

  • @Policerecorders
    @Policerecorders Месяц назад

    What about autism and other neurological disability’s?

  • @Core-1948
    @Core-1948 22 дня назад

    I don’t post anything anywhere, cause I don’t have socials. Checkmate

  • @johndublin346
    @johndublin346 Месяц назад +2

    It was €650,000 Euro

    • @fmoore1410
      @fmoore1410 Месяц назад +1

      ... yet the displayed figure is in Polish Zloty.

  • @mathnerd97
    @mathnerd97 18 дней назад

    So you're saying it's dangerous to have social media

  • @LordLuna
    @LordLuna Месяц назад

    Do the Helldivers 2/ Playstation Network scandal

  • @HavocParadox
    @HavocParadox Месяц назад +7

    Moral of the story don't be on social media.

  • @omerinbar8219
    @omerinbar8219 29 дней назад

    Can you make a video about jayoma

  • @stinew358
    @stinew358 9 дней назад

    There's a lot of cultural stuff here, too. This was in the UK which has a different and somehow more punitive system for disability. I believe she is probably disabled. That being said, even if it was possible for her to enter that contest, she should not have done it. It shows that she can do physical activity at all which the job centre would see as able to work. If you can physically work 15 minutes a day, they go find you 15 minutes a day just to make you work and demonstrate your willingness to seek work (and claim benefits). Bad judgment

  • @szoenzsoenmiles62
    @szoenzsoenmiles62 7 дней назад

    Ok, sorry to be that guy, but when i was like 11 or so, i lifted trees taller than this and threw them like i would for a pebble
    People believe it's impossible cause they havn't tried
    The only problem is they lack basic skills in physics and pick it in the most cumbersome way
    Like they'd try lifting it from one extremities so the force applied to the other extremity makes it hard to lift up the ground, but if you have it vertical already and simply put your hands below and use balance, suddenly all the forces and weight applied are heavily reduced
    Just try with a mace or even gym weight, try grabing it on an extremity and lifting it whole, now try again but on the center of mass using balance or by putting it vertically and using balance, suddenly it's way easier than we'd expect
    Sure to outsiders it looks like if you have your toes injured it means you must stay in a half-alive state because ofc it makes sense 🙄 not even talking about intermitent syndromes or the fact a sporadic activity is clearly not as intense as daily hourly physical jobs
    But it's just that to most it's impressive, because they don't know the magic trick, if they tried themselves it wouldn't be any justification because it is much simpler than they believe
    So i'm basically calling them ignorant
    Not having freedom just because you're injured and must act as if you were a vegetable because if you're not at least one foot to the grave they don't consider your legitimity is mostly why there are "abuses" they litterally coerce it
    Because you must exagerate and act everytime or else they can't comprehend how this works
    And non affected people just mimic that same principle without having to have issues as it looks similar to their eyes, only acting is legitimate to their eyes, not actual events that justifies trust of one's condition
    It's like how i called emergency 3 days in a row to pick up my dad and they saw nothing on him so they refused to take him, the 3rd day however he coughed blood, was enough now for them to take concern seriously, because you can't see it or didn't try to look into it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, it's just a narcissistic point of view
    Because a person got surgery doesn't mean she can't go to the cinema (to pick an exemple i saw in the comments) it is absurd, as no modalities plays against it and goes against people's freedom, much like stalling them to do a Blue Dot effect bias

  • @normanmai7865
    @normanmai7865 2 месяца назад +8

    I'd once heard a story online of a man who'd claimed a little bump caused by two cars lightly making contact lead to a broken leg. That same man also proudly claimed he'd walked 5 miles every day when cross examined in court. I assume this is like that case, but more importantly, can anybody find any evidence of the case I'm describing? I'd love to see the original post it'd come from.

  • @nocturn9x
    @nocturn9x Месяц назад

    I genuinely don't understand why people have a visceral need to post everything they do on social media, but hey at least this idiot didn't manage to defraud the insurance company

  • @dubbleplusgood
    @dubbleplusgood Месяц назад +1

    There are certain instances and moments where back injuries aren't restricting certain physical actions and movements. Having said, those instances are rare and only apply to specific situations. Adding to that, when you're collecting disability money for said injuries..... don't throw trees on camera (or off camera).

  • @MandoArtsudios
    @MandoArtsudios Месяц назад +1

    when you work in/with security you start to realize how much people will just publically post and admit, it's crazy

  • @brendan9853
    @brendan9853 2 месяца назад +5

    Pounds?

    • @arturoaguilar6002
      @arturoaguilar6002 2 месяца назад +2

      Pounds. Why not euros? Brexit, I guess…

    • @killawhale8726
      @killawhale8726 2 месяца назад

      £

    • @aliensinmyass7867
      @aliensinmyass7867 2 месяца назад

      He stole this from a Guardian article, a British newspaper, which converted the 760,000 Euro claim into £650,000.

    • @aliensinmyass7867
      @aliensinmyass7867 2 месяца назад

      @@arturoaguilar6002 Wtf are you talking about? Ireland isn't part of the UK.

    • @calamitous4023
      @calamitous4023 2 месяца назад +3

      @@arturoaguilar6002 Even before Brexit we never used Euros

  • @sarahjames2409
    @sarahjames2409 2 месяца назад +4

    Could you do a legal review of the 1992 x-men animated series? The character Beast was in a raid against a government agency in the first two episodes of the series. He is captured and has to deal with the state of New York legal system, possibly Washington DC. What would be his sentenced? Episode 3 has a scene of his bail hearing. The character gets pardon in episode 12. The review could include a compare and contrast between 1992 legal system and 2024.

  • @katherinemcintosh7247
    @katherinemcintosh7247 Месяц назад

    Yeah, I had a roommate back in the mid 1990’s who was on a triathlon team. She got into a car wreck and sued the insurance company of the driver at fault, claiming she sustained permanent spinal injuries.
    At some point she ended up quitting the triathlon team (she and my other two roommates were on that team,) because her lawyer told her that if the insurance P.I. got photos of her competing, her claim would be thrown out.
    I was so pissed, we all were, that she was participating in that fraud. I did not have health insurance at that time and I totally laid into her for it.

  • @Ryvucz
    @Ryvucz 2 месяца назад +8

    Not very bright.

  • @OxyMauron
    @OxyMauron 2 месяца назад +5

    Depends on the disability, to be fair, but that doesn't apply to her case.

  • @Brian-bp5pe
    @Brian-bp5pe Месяц назад

    Camilla GRABSKA, you say? As in grab the money and don't look back? Not unlike Bernie Madoff (pronouced made-off), as in "made off with the cash".

  • @ToiletPaper2020
    @ToiletPaper2020 Месяц назад +1

    I'm sorry but this just sounds like a high school drama class, not a legal topic. Back injuries are visible in x-rays to the spinal cord, neck, and head. Muscle aches aren't, but that is more like a disease, not an injury. If there was back pain from an injury, you could simply run one of those machines that shows the amount of stress in each vertebrae and makes it visible where pain would come from by measuring how far off the pull is from the body. Haven't ever gone to a chiropractor? I went to one once..and he told me.. I can tell you crack your own neck... Yeah, I paid him and went somewhere else. Got an x-ray and whatever that other thing is called. My vertebrae in my neck are genetically fused together. Soo..you may be able to tell with touch that something is not right from experience...but without the experience of actually proving it... you might not have any idea what the hexx you are talking about.

  • @feistsorcerer2251
    @feistsorcerer2251 Месяц назад +1

    Answer for what happens to these doctors? Nothing. Usually nothing happens because people bought into the idea that lawsuits were too prevalent so now they're allowed to be let off consequence free in most cases.
    Patients don't get a resolution, and if the doctor is in good enough standing in the medical community they can even ruin the patients ability to see another doctor by leaving notes on their file that mark them as a bad patient.
    Medical boards rarely actually reprimand doctors and hospitals like they should and getting to that point often requires legal knowledge and money that the screwed over patients don't have .

  • @stephenbennett6529
    @stephenbennett6529 Месяц назад

    Lmao ive had open wounds and nerve damaged cuts yet still skateboard that dosnt mean my nerve damage disappeared and i can use hand tool all day loke i used to but they dont care if your middle aged and white 😂😂😂

  • @tompatterson1548
    @tompatterson1548 Месяц назад

    If I were her defense attorney I would claim that she was temporarily disabled, but got better.

  • @ProtagonistVon
    @ProtagonistVon Месяц назад

    Crap like this is annoying, not on LegalEagle’s end but I want to to apply for disability and keep doing my highly modified for me Taekwondo and I just know that it’s going to be an uphill battle.

  • @sapphirII
    @sapphirII Месяц назад

    Ha, similar to Doug Sharp's shorts that starts with "mobster on the run fro 20 years" and "Mafia Hitman found in France".

  • @markusnixon3156
    @markusnixon3156 Месяц назад

    I loved that joke at the end! 😆

  • @simongrushka983
    @simongrushka983 Месяц назад +1

    "Irish"

  • @goche8046
    @goche8046 2 месяца назад +9

    On her pants are printed: I just can't.
    I guess it should be: I just won't...work

  • @robertshields4160
    @robertshields4160 Месяц назад +1

    It was a therapeutic Christmas tree throwing. it was part of her physical therapy!

  • @bec7080
    @bec7080 Месяц назад

    I feel bad that I've had to call out of work a couple days because my back is bad and I went to Friends Temple for a religious event (on an actual day off) and sat almost the whole time. I don't how how people can just scam like this

  • @1retiredknight
    @1retiredknight Месяц назад

    The crazy thing to me is which cases the insurers decide to audit. I've seen people with really shady sounding injury claims sit at home for months, and investigators check up on injuries with no lost time

  • @worldsheaviestjamband93
    @worldsheaviestjamband93 Месяц назад

    Her neck
    Her back

  • @nathanwinters2400
    @nathanwinters2400 Месяц назад

    Considering the amount of nitwits that record themselves committing crimes, I'm sure using Social Media has given quite a few attorneys an edge that makes defense council want to pull their hair out.

  • @the4tierbridge
    @the4tierbridge 2 месяца назад +2

    I remember when this went viral!
    Also 10th

  • @AC-ih7jc
    @AC-ih7jc Месяц назад

    A friend of friend is a nurse who later helped attorneys investigating workman's comp cases.
    She ultimately became a private inestigator (with enough long range camera equipment to give any paparazzi wet dreams).
    Sooner or later a *faker* is gonna haul out a trash can, push a lawnmower, or carry heavy grocery bags from the car.
    Nobody fakes an injury forever. People who willing to lie for easy money want an easy life. They just don't have the intestinal fortitude to keep it up for the long haul.
    They all -- ALL -- eventually slip up.

    • @JamEngulfer
      @JamEngulfer Месяц назад +4

      If someone genuinely believes that a claim of chronic disability can be invalidated by taking a single action, they’re an idiot.
      Staking out a disabled person to capture a lone out of context moment from afar to deny them payments is barbaric. Plenty of people that can’t do a full time job because of their disabilities can still push themselves to get an essential task done or do a one-off action. What a photo doesn’t convey is whether they pushed through pain to do it or whether they had to spend time recovering afterwards.

  • @alonzowilliams7598
    @alonzowilliams7598 Месяц назад

    Another GENIUS 😂😂😂

  • @elaexplorer
    @elaexplorer Месяц назад

    my neighbor won a disability claim and then moved across country to buy the lot across from us. He's a horrible person. Though it was funny when I named my router something like FBI 5 and he took off at 4 am the next morning in his RV.

  • @user-hr4rv8rf1w
    @user-hr4rv8rf1w Месяц назад

    😂 silly girl I think it’s called karma ♥️🇬🇧

  • @ARVash
    @ARVash Месяц назад

    Unless the disability is a mental one, then it probably helps your case

  • @Sleeping_Insomiac
    @Sleeping_Insomiac Месяц назад

    Pro gamer move:
    Have an identical twin and claim it was them...

  • @meegen2945
    @meegen2945 Месяц назад

    These type of people are one who destroy the trust of society. This makes living/doing business harder and harder.