LOVED the slider shot getting shot of slider @ :18 (among several others ofc!) 👏👏 nice review here, you def put some effort into shooting/editing this m8. Glad they carried over/improved upon some of the great features from Micro 3; seems extremely capable, and app doesn't look clunky/off-putting. only thing i was hoping to see was some unedited footage. For slider reviews, always good to see shots SOOC to get better idea of overall stability/micro-jitters/vertical limitations/etc .. any way to do a dropbox link to some raw test clips for folks to review/tinker with on NLE timeline? thx Troy and keep up the stellar work on this channel, love the delivery format and lack of click-baity crap. always glad to get a notification when new content pops up from you : ]
Thank you SO much! I appreciate you checking out the video and leaving such an encouraging comment! 🔥 That’s a great suggestion! I’ll have to keep that in mind in case I end up shooting any other sliders in the future. In the meantime, I’ll see what I can do to get some of the raw footage in an online folder👍 I’ll let ya know when I do! Thanks again! Pumped to have you here😉
@@TroyMairsyou betcha! always good to see what we'll actually going to be working with - a life of pain on the timeline never fun lol. Zeapon minimized it pretty well with the Micro 3, and guessing this is only going to be an improvement on SOOC stability. sidenote: love the broad topics you're coving on this channel. with "niche down" being emboiled into everyone's heads, i think you're doing it right covering mix of gear/editing/theory/technique/etc. keeps it fresh and informative! 👏👏
There is a piece of time that thinks you could switch the rod lengths out, but it wouldn’t be as intuitive as it could be. (I don’t know if they’ll sell individual rod length either) But you’re right! The 120 can be “too” long in some circumstances!
Troy - Excellent video, I just received my Axis 120 Pro Kit and found your video. My first setup was smooth and your video was very helpful. One question how did you rig the overhead shots? I am guessing with two c-stands but would love to know how you set it up. I will be using the slider for some cooking videos among other productions and found your overhead spinning shot really interesting. Thanks and again great video.
Thank you so much! That means a lot:) You hit the nail on the head! I used a 1/4x20 screw to baby pin adapter to rig the slider upside down using 2 c-stands. I found the rig to be quite solid, I think it'd be a great setup for your cooking videos! Thanks for watching!
The slider shot is awsome. I've just got wordering that How long and how many cameras had you done the final story shooting? and did you shoot this movie solo?
Hey thank you so much! :) This was all shot on just one camera, with a few different takes to get the right angles :) I did have a friend of mine helping me to shoot this, but I'm sure you could pull of something similiar on your own!
Hello!! My Axis 120 is quite noisy when it brakes and accelerates again. Too loud to use it for filming an interview. Is yours noisy? Thank you for your answer.
That's unfortunate to hear! When operating at 100% my axis is a bit noisier than I would like, fortunately I find about 20% speed to be my preferred speed for an interview shot. At 20% I find that it is acceptably quite (but not silent). I haven't experienced any noise specific to braking and accelerating though, I'd suggest you reach out the Zeapon! Thanks for checkin out the video!
You sure can! You’ll need to pair the tilt head with the main motor to achieve synchronous movement of all three axes. This can be done either through the app, or via the physical interface on the control head👍
@@TroyMairs yeah I did it with Zeapon PON head but instead of going up or down as the 3-rd axis it just rotates like tornado. I dont know how to explain it)
Thank you for asking! Unfortunately I'm not well versed in stop motion work, so I can't tell you for sure how well this would work for that type of work and I'd hate to give you the wrong information! I appreciate you watching the vid!
Hi! Payload info is not that clear in real use. Do you believe it’ll work well with a camera like the Ursa Mini. Specs seem to hold the payload but so far ive seen it being used just with DSLRs, thanks!
I would say you'd be fine rocking the Ursa Mini just on the pan head, I don't think the third (tilt) axis would fit the Ursa or be able to hold it. I'd also try to keep the slider horizontal, as the more vertical you get the less payload the motor can withstand as the weight multiples.
Brilliant overview! This certainly looks tempting… How do you find Zeapon’s customer service? I’m concerned that in a number of reviews on Amazon, there’s a common complaint that if there’s any problem with their gear, Zeapon doesn’t respond to emails at all. You could have one small part break, leaving you with an expensive piece of broken tech, in what should have been a simple $20 part replacement/fix. I have tried to contact them myself with a simple product inquiry regarding their Micro series - tried a few times through their website and Facebook. They’ve never responded, so in the end I didn’t feel confident buying it.
Thank you! I appreciate you checking out the video! :) Great question. I haven't had a need yet to use Zeapon's Customer Service, as I haven't had anything break/go bad. I have this Axis slider as well as the smaller Micro3 slider as well, so I guess it's a positive thing I haven't had to use Customer Service :) Lol! But I also don't have any first hand experience to be able to answer that question for you. When we were in talks for this project, I didn't have any trouble communicating with their Marketing team! That's about the extent of my experience. Poor customer service certainly can be a headache! Let me know if there is anything else I do for ya! Thanks again!
@@TroyMairsThanks Troy! Glad to hear you haven’t had any problems with either slider 👍 I’m in a process of planning logistics for a convention photo/video coverage, including a few interviews. This setup would come in clutch. Might have to get the Asurion Protection Plan that Amazon offers, just for added peace of mind.
Sure! The best of the best recommendation would likely be a Sachtler Flowtech set up. That gets to be quite pricey though! I personally have been using Manfrotto 645 Fast leg set up, or a pair of rolling c-stands from impact
Thanks Dennis, pumped to have you here! I did shoot this in Slog-3/Sgame3.cine, as I do for all of my work. My go to color grading workflow comes from Cullen Kelly! Check out his channel when you're ready to take a DEEP dive on color grading, as there is a little more than just a LUT going on. Thanks again!
Thank you for the reply! Also wondering, when you shoot in slog3, do you usually overexpose +1 or +1.7 or hold at +/-0 ? Do you have any advice how to get picture look close to Arri Alexa 35 in the depth and dynamic range feeling when filming in slog3 (I'm not talking about color grading)? Would it help to record with Ninja V or it won't make a big difference vs XAVC S-I ?
@@3ddesign216 XAVCS-I is going to give you everything you could want from an image quality perspective, so I wouldn’t worry too much about buying a Ninja V. The best thing you can do to get your image to look like an Alexa 35 is through color grading, lighting, and lens choice. For Color Grading, check out Cullen. For lighting, Rob Ellis/Brady Bassette, and for lenses, I’m a sucker for Leicas!
Hi Troy, I only just discovered the Axis version vs the Micro 3. I don't mind that it is longer than the M3. Love that the basic pan is part of the travel motor set up, with more control. Reduces the number of batteries. Are the motors quieter than the Micro 3?
Having the pan head included in the motor head was an awesome upgrade for sure! The motors are far from silent at 100% speed, but I find myself running it at 30-40% speed for most of my work which makes for significantly quieter operation
@@TroyMairs I have ordered the 120. Trying to strike a balance between having a long slider further way, and having to go faster to get the right parallax effect. Can hardly wait to try it. Initially, it will be used as B camera for interviews.
Just got my 120cm Pro today. Love it and hate it. I expected motor noise to increase with speed, but did not expect to have electronic noises sounding like an ambulance siren, that increases with speed. The ‘manual’ for want of a better word, says that the speed can be adjusted while operating - it cannot. You have to stop the sequence, whether manually entered or via the app, before the speed will change using the knob on the base unit. The camera mount does not allow much room on the side, so I can’t plug in a mic receiver, or video transmitter. How do you go back to manual use after connecting with the app. The manual says nothing about the app, except to use it. There is a QR code in the tilt module manual, but it goes nowhere ‘504’ error. Programming in a simple tilt down A to B, the tilt completes just before the end, then tilts up slightly before returning. Not good for repeatable Timelapse. Do wish that the waypoint mode flowed continuously, rather than pausing at each waypoint.
Love/hate seems like a pretty good way to sum it up! I have also found myself wishing that the different waypoints flowed continuously as well! Thanks for watching the video and sharing your experience!
I would say, kind of. And technically yes! There is a 1/4x20 screw available that you could mount a manfrotto receiver to on the tilt arm. Something like the Falcam F50 receiver might be a good option for that!
Thanks Troy. Have ordered an Axis 120 Pro. Had to go online out of Australia. Zeapon needs to market better in Australia. A couple of video shops have older Mini models but have even heard of the Axis.
Great question! Unfortunately, they have not released the price just yet, but keep an eye on the video description of check out the CineD article! We'll both get the price updated when it is available!
Unfortunately there hasn’t been any official pricing announced just yet. Keep an on on the CineD article for the update when it drops! Thanks for checking out the video!
having a micro 3 the axis doesnt seem that much of an upgrade since it uses the same app. the app is a huge let down and not fit for purpose. The hardware is great but to be honest im selling mine off to get dynamic perceptions gear as i have more control
I’d second that on the app! I end up using the manual controls almost exclusively. The intuitive manual controls on the Axis are much better than the Micro 3, which is where I think it sets itself apart.
yeah the rage comics were the best . you deserve more subs man, this is a great video with pretty high production value. try not to fall into the shill sponsorship traps and are basically turning creators into work from home digital sales men selling lut packs and affiliate links. thats only stops you making the stuff that you want to make and limits your creativity. @@TroyMairs
LOVED the slider shot getting shot of slider @ :18 (among several others ofc!) 👏👏 nice review here, you def put some effort into shooting/editing this m8. Glad they carried over/improved upon some of the great features from Micro 3; seems extremely capable, and app doesn't look clunky/off-putting. only thing i was hoping to see was some unedited footage. For slider reviews, always good to see shots SOOC to get better idea of overall stability/micro-jitters/vertical limitations/etc .. any way to do a dropbox link to some raw test clips for folks to review/tinker with on NLE timeline?
thx Troy and keep up the stellar work on this channel, love the delivery format and lack of click-baity crap. always glad to get a notification when new content pops up from you : ]
Thank you SO much! I appreciate you checking out the video and leaving such an encouraging comment! 🔥
That’s a great suggestion! I’ll have to keep that in mind in case I end up shooting any other sliders in the future. In the meantime, I’ll see what I can do to get some of the raw footage in an online folder👍 I’ll let ya know when I do!
Thanks again! Pumped to have you here😉
@@TroyMairsyou betcha! always good to see what we'll actually going to be working with - a life of pain on the timeline never fun lol. Zeapon minimized it pretty well with the Micro 3, and guessing this is only going to be an improvement on SOOC stability.
sidenote: love the broad topics you're coving on this channel. with "niche down" being emboiled into everyone's heads, i think you're doing it right covering mix of gear/editing/theory/technique/etc. keeps it fresh and informative! 👏👏
What an awesome example of its capabilities at the end! (;
Absolutely! That lighting was on point man!
They should do interchangeable rod length, because the 80cm is more practical, but sometimes you want the bigger length.
There is a piece of time that thinks you could switch the rod lengths out, but it wouldn’t be as intuitive as it could be. (I don’t know if they’ll sell individual rod length either)
But you’re right! The 120 can be “too” long in some circumstances!
Troy - Excellent video, I just received my Axis 120 Pro Kit and found your video. My first setup was smooth and your video was very helpful. One question how did you rig the overhead shots? I am guessing with two c-stands but would love to know how you set it up. I will be using the slider for some cooking videos among other productions and found your overhead spinning shot really interesting. Thanks and again great video.
Thank you so much! That means a lot:) You hit the nail on the head! I used a 1/4x20 screw to baby pin adapter to rig the slider upside down using 2 c-stands. I found the rig to be quite solid, I think it'd be a great setup for your cooking videos! Thanks for watching!
The slider shot is awsome. I've just got wordering that How long and how many cameras had you done the final story shooting? and did you shoot this movie solo?
Hey thank you so much! :) This was all shot on just one camera, with a few different takes to get the right angles :) I did have a friend of mine helping me to shoot this, but I'm sure you could pull of something similiar on your own!
thxxx for this
You got it! Thanks for checking out the vid!
Awesome. I want that
Thanks for checking out the vid! Glad you liked it!
Hello!! My Axis 120 is quite noisy when it brakes and accelerates again. Too loud to use it for filming an interview. Is yours noisy? Thank you for your answer.
That's unfortunate to hear! When operating at 100% my axis is a bit noisier than I would like, fortunately I find about 20% speed to be my preferred speed for an interview shot. At 20% I find that it is acceptably quite (but not silent). I haven't experienced any noise specific to braking and accelerating though, I'd suggest you reach out the Zeapon!
Thanks for checkin out the video!
Great slider. Just received and worked with it a little bit. Do you know, can I record a video horizontally working with all 3 axes?
You sure can! You’ll need to pair the tilt head with the main motor to achieve synchronous movement of all three axes. This can be done either through the app, or via the physical interface on the control head👍
@@TroyMairs yeah I did it with Zeapon PON head but instead of going up or down as the 3-rd axis it just rotates like tornado. I dont know how to explain it)
Hi, can be use it for Stop Motion ? , it is compatible with the Stop Motion Software ? thank you
Thank you for asking! Unfortunately I'm not well versed in stop motion work, so I can't tell you for sure how well this would work for that type of work and I'd hate to give you the wrong information!
I appreciate you watching the vid!
Hi! Payload info is not that clear in real use. Do you believe it’ll work well with a camera like the Ursa Mini. Specs seem to hold the payload but so far ive seen it being used just with DSLRs, thanks!
I would say you'd be fine rocking the Ursa Mini just on the pan head, I don't think the third (tilt) axis would fit the Ursa or be able to hold it. I'd also try to keep the slider horizontal, as the more vertical you get the less payload the motor can withstand as the weight multiples.
Example footage - based of many, many true stories...
Some without such a happy ending ☝️
Brilliant overview! This certainly looks tempting… How do you find Zeapon’s customer service? I’m concerned that in a number of reviews on Amazon, there’s a common complaint that if there’s any problem with their gear, Zeapon doesn’t respond to emails at all. You could have one small part break, leaving you with an expensive piece of broken tech, in what should have been a simple $20 part replacement/fix. I have tried to contact them myself with a simple product inquiry regarding their Micro series - tried a few times through their website and Facebook. They’ve never responded, so in the end I didn’t feel confident buying it.
Thank you! I appreciate you checking out the video! :) Great question. I haven't had a need yet to use Zeapon's Customer Service, as I haven't had anything break/go bad. I have this Axis slider as well as the smaller Micro3 slider as well, so I guess it's a positive thing I haven't had to use Customer Service :) Lol! But I also don't have any first hand experience to be able to answer that question for you.
When we were in talks for this project, I didn't have any trouble communicating with their Marketing team! That's about the extent of my experience.
Poor customer service certainly can be a headache! Let me know if there is anything else I do for ya! Thanks again!
@@TroyMairsThanks Troy! Glad to hear you haven’t had any problems with either slider 👍 I’m in a process of planning logistics for a convention photo/video coverage, including a few interviews. This setup would come in clutch. Might have to get the Asurion Protection Plan that Amazon offers, just for added peace of mind.
@@RafaelSwit A little piece of mind goes a long way! :) wish I could have been more help, but it sounds like you’ve got a good thing going!
They need heavy app development. Syncing the products to work as one and enabling multiple set-ups has to be an added feature right away.
Yep! It’s certainly useable now, but a bit more refinement with time is always a good thing! :)
Hey. Can you give us recommendation what tripod to get to work with axis 100 pro in horizontal and vertical position?
Sure! The best of the best recommendation would likely be a Sachtler Flowtech set up. That gets to be quite pricey though! I personally have been using Manfrotto 645 Fast leg set up, or a pair of rolling c-stands from impact
Nice video! Did you film rewiev in PP8 / s-log3 and S-gamut3.Cine ? Can you please share the LUT you used? Thanks in advance! /Dennis
Thanks Dennis, pumped to have you here! I did shoot this in Slog-3/Sgame3.cine, as I do for all of my work. My go to color grading workflow comes from Cullen Kelly! Check out his channel when you're ready to take a DEEP dive on color grading, as there is a little more than just a LUT going on. Thanks again!
Thank you for the reply! Also wondering, when you shoot in slog3, do you usually overexpose +1 or +1.7 or hold at +/-0 ? Do you have any advice how to get picture look close to Arri Alexa 35 in the depth and dynamic range feeling when filming in slog3 (I'm not talking about color grading)? Would it help to record with Ninja V or it won't make a big difference vs XAVC S-I ?
@@3ddesign216 XAVCS-I is going to give you everything you could want from an image quality perspective, so I wouldn’t worry too much about buying a Ninja V. The best thing you can do to get your image to look like an Alexa 35 is through color grading, lighting, and lens choice.
For Color Grading, check out Cullen. For lighting, Rob Ellis/Brady Bassette, and for lenses, I’m a sucker for Leicas!
Can we use "upside down"?
I had pretty good luck using it upside down! There is a rotating shot in the end sequence where I rigged it upside down
Hi Troy, I only just discovered the Axis version vs the Micro 3. I don't mind that it is longer than the M3. Love that the basic pan is part of the travel motor set up, with more control. Reduces the number of batteries. Are the motors quieter than the Micro 3?
Having the pan head included in the motor head was an awesome upgrade for sure! The motors are far from silent at 100% speed, but I find myself running it at 30-40% speed for most of my work which makes for significantly quieter operation
@@TroyMairs I have ordered the 120. Trying to strike a balance between having a long slider further way, and having to go faster to get the right parallax effect. Can hardly wait to try it. Initially, it will be used as B camera for interviews.
Just got my 120cm Pro today. Love it and hate it. I expected motor noise to increase with speed, but did not expect to have electronic noises sounding like an ambulance siren, that increases with speed. The ‘manual’ for want of a better word, says that the speed can be adjusted while operating - it cannot. You have to stop the sequence, whether manually entered or via the app, before the speed will change using the knob on the base unit. The camera mount does not allow much room on the side, so I can’t plug in a mic receiver, or video transmitter. How do you go back to manual use after connecting with the app. The manual says nothing about the app, except to use it. There is a QR code in the tilt module manual, but it goes nowhere ‘504’ error. Programming in a simple tilt down A to B, the tilt completes just before the end, then tilts up slightly before returning. Not good for repeatable Timelapse. Do wish that the waypoint mode flowed continuously, rather than pausing at each waypoint.
Love/hate seems like a pretty good way to sum it up! I have also found myself wishing that the different waypoints flowed continuously as well! Thanks for watching the video and sharing your experience!
Can you get a manfrotto plate to fit onto that tilt arm?
I would say, kind of. And technically yes! There is a 1/4x20 screw available that you could mount a manfrotto receiver to on the tilt arm. Something like the Falcam F50 receiver might be a good option for that!
Great thanks for the info!@@TroyMairs
hey. how did you manage to follow focus?
Is there a specific shot you’re referring to? For the most part, it’s be autofocus! If not, I’d look to something like the tilta nucleus system!
@@TroyMairs thank you!
It seems like every 3 axis slider has some sort of annoying issue. im probably going to have to settle with the 2 axis version.
Yea, the perfect motorized slider doesn’t exist just yet, but they keep getting better! Maybe we need to get the robotic arms😂
Can you adjust the speed using the buttons, rather than the app?
Sure can! There is a dial on the right hand side of the motor head that can adjust the speed from 0-100%
@@TroyMairs Thanks Troy. I just have to find a stockist in Australia. Amazon won’t ship it here.
Thanks Troy. Have ordered an Axis 120 Pro. Had to go online out of Australia. Zeapon needs to market better in Australia. A couple of video shops have older Mini models but have even heard of the Axis.
@@RaymondToms That has to be frustrating!
What is the price on the slider?
Great question! Unfortunately, they have not released the price just yet, but keep an eye on the video description of check out the CineD article! We'll both get the price updated when it is available!
wondering the same. best guess is prob starting in the $2500 range since it appears the linear motor/central control unit is not optional.
@@kernzillathe base model is starting at $599 usd
What a pain!? Amazon won't ship the Axis to Australia.
That is a bummer! Hopefully Zeapon can get it to a distributor in your area soon if you're looking to buy one!
@@TroyMairs I have ordered an Axis from a supplier that will ship to Oz.
How much as we talking about?
Unfortunately there hasn’t been any official pricing announced just yet. Keep an on on the CineD article for the update when it drops!
Thanks for checking out the video!
Over a month later and the "system" as shown still seems to be "upcoming" and not available for purchase. Very disappointing.
Nah man, its available! Check it out in the link: amzn.to/46nIlYF
having a micro 3 the axis doesnt seem that much of an upgrade since it uses the same app.
the app is a huge let down and not fit for purpose. The hardware is great but to be honest im selling mine off to get dynamic perceptions gear as i have more control
I’d second that on the app! I end up using the manual controls almost exclusively. The intuitive manual controls on the Axis are much better than the Micro 3, which is where I think it sets itself apart.
Also, love your profile pic😂 that took me back lol!
yeah the rage comics were the best .
you deserve more subs man, this is a great video with pretty high production value.
try not to fall into the shill sponsorship traps and are basically turning creators into work from home digital sales men selling lut packs and affiliate links.
thats only stops you making the stuff that you want to make and limits your creativity.
@@TroyMairs
Wow never knew that chet faker making camera gear reviews 😅
Lol😂 we honestly have the same beard!
Zeapon design looks like it’s getting worse. The micro 3 looked fantastic and modern. This looks really outdated
Really liked them both! I do appreciate the compact nature of the micro 3 for sure!