What Happens When Our Physical Copies of Games All Die? - Retro Bird

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2023
  • It's a hard truth... at some point all physical copies of video games will no longer work. How long this will take remains to be seen. In this video, I talk about what the gaming and collecting landscape will look like when it does.
    What Happens When Our Physical Copies of Games All Die? - Retro Bird / Lifespan of Physical Video Games / Digital Games Taking Over
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  • @RetroBirdGaming
    @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад +39

    Games played: Metal Storm (0:04), Super Mario Bros. Wonder (0:19), Side Arms (0:28), Robo Aleste (1:35), Crash Bandicoot 2 (2:04)

    • @dapperfan44
      @dapperfan44 8 месяцев назад +1

      I started humming that level's theme for Crash 2.
      Fun fact, that was the first video game I ever owned since Christmas in the 3rd grade. And I've loved it ever since.

    • @michaelcullinane3924
      @michaelcullinane3924 8 месяцев назад +1

      The ultimate in punching down is Retro Bird referencing poor old Timmy.

    • @Vulpas
      @Vulpas 8 месяцев назад

      The recent Spider-Man games are terrible.

    • @diegomorata2885
      @diegomorata2885 8 месяцев назад

      Watching your videos makes me relive my childhood

    • @WithScienceAsMySheperd
      @WithScienceAsMySheperd 8 месяцев назад

      that move you made with the knees XD So funny, your physical humor is similar to BRUNO BLANCHET,
      legend of funny TV sketch shows and absurd comedy in Quebec, Canada.
      His character "Tite Dents" and "Le petit monsieur pas de cou" are examples, "Small teeth" and "The small man without a neck"

  • @klocks2543
    @klocks2543 8 месяцев назад +21

    When I visit my remaining grandparents and they just have the tv on the news or a sports game… I just think wow, when I’m their age and my grandkids come to visit me - they’ll have to tell me to pause my game and I’ll be like no, I still have to finish my RPG collection before I die.

  • @junoeclipse7715
    @junoeclipse7715 8 месяцев назад +51

    I think the future of physical game collections will require the gaming community to embrace reproductions and stop being so precious about original copies. I think the most important thing for collectors to be doing right now is making sure to document things like box art, manuals, and cartridge labels to the same extent that rom dumps have been so that those things can be accurately reproduced in the future.

    • @mavericksetsuna7396
      @mavericksetsuna7396 7 месяцев назад +1

      People will just emulate.

    • @TheMuffinMan96
      @TheMuffinMan96 7 месяцев назад

      Gentleman.... *tips hat*

    • @zef9151
      @zef9151 5 месяцев назад +1

      Every generation until 360/PS3 is mostly well documented by console modding communities. And in the far future physical copies (working or not) will all become very precious collector's items, it is what it is

    • @raffcamcamraff7950
      @raffcamcamraff7950 18 дней назад

      Yeap; I will change my poster of the Monalisa instead of the original because the sun has faded the original painting and it doesn't look as great as my poster with its shiny colors !!! JA !!!

  • @JWBR84
    @JWBR84 8 месяцев назад +59

    I think the lesson I'll teach my kids is "owning versus renting". Applies to games and a bunch of other things.

    • @RetroMMA
      @RetroMMA 8 месяцев назад +7

      You will own nothing, live in a pod and eat ze bugs. And you WILL BE HAPPY!
      That's the word on the street, anyway...

    • @BagzAndPresident
      @BagzAndPresident 8 месяцев назад +4

      You DO NOT OWN GAMES you own the LICENSE for that single copy

    • @RetroMMA
      @RetroMMA 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@BagzAndPresident Backups of software you own is legal, so...

    • @MrEvilTag
      @MrEvilTag 7 месяцев назад

      But you dont own it. Either way you pay for the privilege of renting it

    • @MrEvilTag
      @MrEvilTag 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@RetroMMAyou dont "own" anything

  • @Kuduloka
    @Kuduloka 8 месяцев назад +19

    Your comment on not hoarding games really stuck with me. I'm aware you've talked about this in depth in other videos, but this caught me at the right time. I've been pushing to expand my collection, even buying games I didn't really care about. But your comment has helped put me on a course correction to narrow things down, and Im happier for it.

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад +6

      Glad to hear it!

    • @heavensea141
      @heavensea141 7 месяцев назад +1

      Can't play more then 1 game at the time.

  • @TheONE10X
    @TheONE10X 8 месяцев назад +29

    During the pandemic I took up computers and video game emulation as a hobby. Ended up getting through the plague with a mini-itx build packed with over 10k retro games, but only the ones I really wanted. It was a blast watching countless hours of best of and hidden gem videos on RUclips and building my library to be uniquely mine. I grew up on the poor side, so to have access now to every video game and video game console I have ever cared about on a computer I built myself is a bit mind blowing. I am firmly on the side of digital preservation now.

    • @ordinaryhuman5645
      @ordinaryhuman5645 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yup, physical preservation is not really a battle worth fighting. In contrast, digital preservation is pretty painless and emulation is often better than the original physical experience, with more flexibility with the hardware involved.

    • @clouds-rb9xt
      @clouds-rb9xt 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@ordinaryhuman5645I disagree with better than the original. Original console is the way I go

    • @ordinaryhuman5645
      @ordinaryhuman5645 7 месяцев назад

      @@clouds-rb9xtAnd you're allowed to be wrong and do silly things.

    • @clouds-rb9xt
      @clouds-rb9xt 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@ordinaryhuman5645 idk man.. my experience just doesn't feel authentic if i'm not using original hardware with original controllers, plus original hardware gets every detail of the original game how the developers wanted it to be seen

    • @okMizu
      @okMizu 7 месяцев назад +3

      That's cool, but how the heck did you end up really wanting over 10k games 😂 I have such a huge backlog to play and it's only a few hundred. It will take you another few decades of plague to get through all of those haha. Also to what @ordinaryhuman5645 said: I recently tried emulating some arcade rhythm games and let me tell you it wasn't a very good experience. Of course emulators with a huge user and developer base behind them tend to give a almost original, if not better experience, but for some more niche corners of the retro gaming world you just can't beat the original hardware with emulation yet.

  • @Aubrey_2_Hotty
    @Aubrey_2_Hotty 8 месяцев назад +55

    Great vid Banana man.
    Looking back, I'm pretty proud of our generation and how we didnt give up the old games.
    Everything from the emulation of them all the way to brand new homebrew releases for Genesis is all because very talented people cared.
    Puts a tear in this old gamer's eye.

    • @christopher9727
      @christopher9727 7 месяцев назад

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      For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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      16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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  • @matthaskell1988
    @matthaskell1988 8 месяцев назад +75

    You’re a gem in the gaming realm. Thanks for the laughs sir. 👍

  • @paigegguy
    @paigegguy 8 месяцев назад +12

    Born too late to colonise earth,
    Born too early to colonise space,
    Born just in time to own way too many video games.

  • @bnthewilderness
    @bnthewilderness 8 месяцев назад +10

    I’ve always been pretty hard-core about purchasing only physical copy of games, at least until this current generation of games. I grew tired of trying to find more room to store games. However, after watching this video it made me realize that I kind of miss purchasing physical copies of games for the PS5 and the Switch.
    I suppose it’s better late than never. Great video!

  • @TucBroder
    @TucBroder 8 месяцев назад +10

    I have PS1 games that are now almost 30 years old, and still working perfectly. I've heard many tales about disc rot, but I've never experienced it.
    The day physical media dies, is the day I stop buying new games.

    • @sc3ku
      @sc3ku 5 месяцев назад

      No PS1 rot, but my Crazy taxi Dreamcast disc has finally started separating

  • @kingedwin
    @kingedwin 8 месяцев назад +27

    Disc rot is caused by oxidation of the disc's layers, causing discoloration. It's more likely with poor storage, i.e, leaving the disc in an attic or shed where it's exposed to extreme temperatures and humidity. However, most of the underlying manufacturing causes were mostly worked out by the time games made it onto CD. You're way more likely to ruin a disc by mishandling it.

    • @dapperfan44
      @dapperfan44 8 месяцев назад +3

      Blurays are especially far more durable.

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад +11

      Thank you for this comment :) Good to know that game discs are less likely to have bad pressings and I'd always suspected / been hopeful of that.

    • @jeffb.6642
      @jeffb.6642 8 месяцев назад

      it's also a lot more likely to happen with burned discs like CD-Rs, DVD-Rs, etc. than factory pressed ones. Especially cheaper off brand ones. Source: I've had several burned discs develop rot and go bad, but never a factory pressed disc. But then again most game systems won't play burned discs without mods so it's not too much of a concern anyway.

    • @kingedwin
      @kingedwin 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@jeffb.6642 These discs have an ink layer that holds data. Over time, the ink fades, making them unreadable. This happens faster if the disc is exposed to UV light, but even with proper handling, there's a good chance it will fail after 10 years or so.

    • @vasilas432
      @vasilas432 8 месяцев назад

      I had burned discs fail after 2 months. I had about 20. All of them dead in 2 months

  • @sidearmsalpha
    @sidearmsalpha 8 месяцев назад +8

    We don't take these games with us when we die. I started selling my collection over the years and would rather emulate or just play games off of SD cards or HDs now. Less stuff I have to worry about getting rid of when I'm too old or too ill to enjoy them anymore.

  • @nickparsons337
    @nickparsons337 8 месяцев назад +48

    Please don't ever brandish a blade in front of your copy of Rocket Knight Adventures. How would you feel if you unintentionally traumatized it? Lol

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад +18

      It's seen more dangerous stuff than that in there ;)

    • @lukedavis3953
      @lukedavis3953 8 месяцев назад +2

      Just want to say I played Rocket Knight Adventures for the first time tonight. Wow, I see why you sing its praises.

    • @nickparsons337
      @nickparsons337 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@lukedavis3953 Yeah, it's a great game for sure. One the best that the Genesis has to offer.

  • @VladlustTV
    @VladlustTV 8 месяцев назад +14

    It will suck when older physical media stops working, but as long as there are ways for future generations to play those older games then I'm happy. Great video as always!

    • @chadwolf3840
      @chadwolf3840 8 месяцев назад +2

      It won’t happen within your lifetime. I’d not worry about it. The failure rates on 40 year old Famicom games that have been not left out in a forest to rot is close to 0.

  • @michaeldietz2648
    @michaeldietz2648 8 месяцев назад +7

    Well one thing about the younger generation is that they’re not paying for their games, when they get older they’re going to start to want physical copies. I feel like in a couple more years that it’s really going to balance our physical is making a comeback in every thing.

    • @ReinMixTape
      @ReinMixTape 8 месяцев назад +2

      I don't even want to know how bad it will feel to have nostalgia for games which were never released physically or relied on a server being online... etc etc. The newer generations are in for a world of hurt.

    • @michaeldietz2648
      @michaeldietz2648 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@ReinMixTape true I feel bad for a lot of them because when they’re about 30 years old and they want to go back and relive some of your childhood experiences they are not going to be able to.

    • @tmike2552
      @tmike2552 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@ReinMixTapeBack in 1997, there was an online game service called Gamestorm. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameStorm
      It shut down in 2001, and almost all the games they hosted are now unavailable to play. That's just one story... there are hundreds like that (mostly MMO or other online only games).

  • @zonesproductions
    @zonesproductions 8 месяцев назад +3

    I dont expect my kids to want my old physical games but they sure make a good investment for them after I'm gone.

  • @RTPJu
    @RTPJu 8 месяцев назад +7

    Ironically, """""piracy""""" is what will preserve most of video games, music, books, movies, HQs and every other bit of art and entertainment pieces. It's already doing it

  • @RetroCheats
    @RetroCheats 8 месяцев назад +9

    From what I read, old NES games were designed to last longer then a Switch Cartage. The save battery for the original NES is good til 2030 about, then were going to hear a lot more people talk about how their NES save batteries died. I read the game itself might last 100 years or longer.

    • @mottzilla4858
      @mottzilla4858 8 месяцев назад +2

      I believe Switch cartridges use Flash memory and not MaskROMs. So eventually the data programmed on them will be lost. NES games (officially licensed ones) use MaskROMs which won't lose their data over time. They can still fail but the should last a long time when in a good environment. 100 years? Not sure about that.

  • @maimthestupid
    @maimthestupid 8 месяцев назад +9

    The physical games we have should be able to last for hundreds of years. Think about vintage, and I mean the really old radios we have that still work. Remember, we're all told that the plastic we make doesn't break down for thousands of years, so that means the games should last that long too.

  • @damian9303
    @damian9303 8 месяцев назад +3

    That “dang, I can’t remember where I put it!” comes back rewarding once you accidentally stumble across it again. Even moreso when it’s “I didn’t know I still _even had_ this!”

  • @-PLAYER0NE-
    @-PLAYER0NE- 8 месяцев назад +11

    When i first started reacquiring, i was in my hometown which is VERY humid and coastal, so i ran across cartridges that were horribly rusty and dirty inside. I still have a handful of those that I refurbished including my SNES game genie. Needless to say, where these things are kept is very important.
    Also, I’ve had to replace several batteries on cartridges lately, which is more often than not the first thing to take a poop in cartridge based games.
    My input is this: do some research and get yourself a soldering gun. It isn’t difficult at all. As for older disc based games… we have no control over that aside from storage.
    Love your stuff man! You’re touching on all the details of really important topics within the retro gaming world. Like you said it may seem silly now but when my son is my age it would be nice for him to be able to play the games i loved.

  • @TRJ2241987
    @TRJ2241987 8 месяцев назад +3

    I still have CIB DMG Game Boys with the original AA batteries wrapped in the plastic and none of them have exploded or corroded yet. Honestly blows me away, I've been expected them to go for years and years now and it hasn't happened

  • @nathangraves1069
    @nathangraves1069 8 месяцев назад +1

    the most traumatic experience for any games that like to collect sealed videogames is to realize that when you want to finally open the game / console and despite all efforts to keep it impeccable, the game / console doesn't work and remember how much money you paid for it. no matter if you use it or not your physical games, they will start to deteriorate so, if you finally have your childhood game just play it !!!...life is to short to just let your games / consoles die. great video as always.

  • @NateTheGnat
    @NateTheGnat 8 месяцев назад +5

    My turbografx games will never die. Those HuCards are like cockroaches that will survive the apocalypse.

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад +1

      They sure do seem durable. Especially if you keep them in their sleeves.

  • @nealdavis7276
    @nealdavis7276 8 месяцев назад +18

    Great video! I think by the time physical media does begin to deteriorate, reproductions will have evolved to the point of being able to be near identical to the originals. Reproductions of games and consoles will be more important for preservation for future generations than a raspberry pi.

    • @leeartlee915
      @leeartlee915 8 месяцев назад +4

      Why would people bother with repros when there are much, MUCH easier ways to play older games? And I’m not talking about the .01% who “have to have it physically”. I’m talking the general population.

    • @brostenen
      @brostenen 8 месяцев назад

      Just get a flash solution and dump your collection. But it has to happen before the only source are the internet.

    • @leeartlee915
      @leeartlee915 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@brostenen Why? The internet isn’t going anywhere. Do you know how hard “they’ve” tried to kill off piracy? Many, many, MANY times. As long as the internet is open, you’ll never get rid of piracy .

    • @brostenen
      @brostenen 8 месяцев назад

      @@leeartlee915 Ohh... I know.... Been on the internet since 1995. But that is nothing a search wont fix. Still it takes a decent amount of search, and if that is too much for some to do, then that person is simply too lazy.

    • @leeartlee915
      @leeartlee915 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@brostenen Fair enough but I don’t have much patience for people who are “too lazy” for stuff. Those are the types of people that… well, I just don’t have much sympathy for that lot.

  • @pswr2009
    @pswr2009 8 месяцев назад +3

    Awesome video! Just found your channel! Thank you for talking about preserving physical media! Man, can't imagine not being able to actually hold a copy of my favorite games.

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you found the channel and welcome aboard!

  • @newarchillabog9403
    @newarchillabog9403 8 месяцев назад +4

    Going completely digital keeps me up at night. Im glad im not the only one.

    • @RetroGamesBoy78
      @RetroGamesBoy78 8 месяцев назад +3

      I don't like it either, but tbh, as far as disc based media goes, most games aren't even on the disc anymore or just a very small amount of it. And if the full game is on the disc, they are quite often full of bugs and need patching, which will probably dissappear at some point in the future.

  • @drift180x
    @drift180x 8 месяцев назад +10

    Emulation is the best long term preservation solution. Also it’s really convenient too. Plus there’s the benefit of upscaling and filters and mods and save states.
    I’ll continue to enjoy physical for as long as it works. Then when it eventually croaks I’ll go the emulation route fully.

    • @diasflac0g
      @diasflac0g 8 месяцев назад +1

      Emulation is only good for preservation. However it's not the best way to play these games. The best way to play these games is on their original hardware on a CRT tv.
      You can add all the "HD" filters you want, but it will never replace or look as good as the original hardware on a CRT TV.
      My take is lets just enjoy it while we have it and of course do our best to take care of them.

    • @MusicJunkie37
      @MusicJunkie37 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@diasflac0g That's literally why flashcarts like Everdrive exist

    • @ulfrinn8783
      @ulfrinn8783 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@diasflac0g No, original hardware on a CRT is just the way YOU prefer to play them. Perhaps due to nostalgia. I couldn't give a rat's ass about CRT. And why would I want the look and feel of original hardware? I just finished playing Fatal Frame on PCSX2 at 1080p unstretched widescreen with HD textures. It looked and played great. And over the weekend I played Ocarina of Time randomizer co-op with two other people. Can't do that on original hardware, can you?

    • @ordinaryhuman5645
      @ordinaryhuman5645 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yup, emulation is great. Being able to play 3DS games on the big screen with an Xbox controller instead of my beat up 3DS with a non-responsive "A" button is awesome. And save states make masochist games like Strange Journey Redux more palatable.

    • @vasilas432
      @vasilas432 8 месяцев назад

      I agree to everything you say but I have discovered that a N64digital with vga filter applied looks better than a Sony BVM crt 14’’. The N64 is connected on LG Oled and HDR is also enabled on n64digital settings

  • @reginaldforthright805
    @reginaldforthright805 8 месяцев назад +3

    Look at it this way - we still have gold masks from ancient Egypt as good as the day they were minted, so it stands to reason that 80s video games will still work a million years from now

    • @kyran243
      @kyran243 6 месяцев назад

      ancient egypt wasnt a million years ago though

  • @rotallyPumpered
    @rotallyPumpered 8 месяцев назад +11

    I finally got myself a soldering iron last month, and was able to revive a couple old cartridges with dead save batteries (Unirally and Pokemon Silver). I'm feeling a little better for the health of my collection as a result. I think maintenance will become more of a factor for people who want to play original copies in the future, and everyone who can't be bothered will be fine with emulation. ODEs and flashcarts.
    I keep hearing about disc rot, but haven't seen it myself, and I have a few early compact disc pressings from the early eighties. I hope it's an overblown concern.

    • @leeartlee915
      @leeartlee915 8 месяцев назад +2

      Disc rot is a thing. Trust me.

  • @SteveBrandon
    @SteveBrandon 8 месяцев назад +5

    I've had a handful of CDs, DVDs, and especially Laserdiscs succumb to disk rot but I can't say I've ever had that problem with a game disc for any format. I've had to replace a handful of game discs but that's because of scratches, not disk rot.
    Anyway, I'm a Gen X'er who is turning 50 next year so I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of physical copies of games that I have will outlast me.
    I have a feeling that the ninth generation of consoles (re: XBox Series X and/or PS5, i've never been that fond of the Switch due to it being too big for a freaking handheld) will be the end of the line for me when it comes to console gaming. If the 10th generation of consoles is always-online with no physical media as I'm fearful it might be, I'm just not going to bother with it and I'll stick to older games or PC games.

  • @arenschultz
    @arenschultz 8 месяцев назад +3

    You have a unique ability of putting so many things into perspective using bananas as an analogy

  • @RunMeThrough
    @RunMeThrough 8 месяцев назад +5

    Greatest RUclipsr of ALL time!!!!

  • @megamob5834
    @megamob5834 8 месяцев назад +10

    Took a break from Mario Wonder to watch this. That’s high praise good sir 😉 cool to see that you’re playing it as well (along with the rest of the world). Anywho, I think it’s time for the nightly collection stare-down. 👋

  • @robertyu6691
    @robertyu6691 8 месяцев назад +3

    This is actually an existential threat.

  • @cOnNoReXiStS
    @cOnNoReXiStS 7 месяцев назад +2

    Trust me, there will always be at least a few people in the new generations who will be interested in retro video games. I know that because I am part of that few as a 14 year old completely obsessed with old games (especially Nintendo). So trust me, your get on my lawn strategy has definitely worked, at least on me :)

  • @Jarod_Schultz
    @Jarod_Schultz 8 месяцев назад +2

    I've never had a physical game or movies that stopped working. I have over 30 Atari 2600 carts that all work. All of my disc media works. I think it's a matter of how you store things along with temperature.

  • @gabrielesquaratti5709
    @gabrielesquaratti5709 8 месяцев назад +2

    that's a reason why i am selling most of my retro collection.
    all of them but the saturn shmups collection.

  • @jayp2788
    @jayp2788 8 месяцев назад +3

    They are wanting people to go all digital... but give poor options for storage..

  • @Chris-Courage
    @Chris-Courage 8 месяцев назад +16

    Don't forget about bootlegs. Bootlegs can be bought new online and while they aren't technically legal, they do count as a physical copy. So bootlegs could outlast the OG original copies keeping physical around for decades.

    • @mottzilla4858
      @mottzilla4858 8 месяцев назад +5

      Most bootlegs (cartridges) use programmable ROMs which probably won't last as long as the MaskROMs used in games from the NES up to the GBA. While MaskROMs do fail like anything else, FlashROM and EPROM can suffer from bit rot. So even though the chip may still function fine the game data would need to be reprogrammed. It can be done but not just anyone will be up for doing that.

    • @brostenen
      @brostenen 8 месяцев назад +1

      Just dump your original collection of genuine copies, and get a flash sollution for your backups. That way you avoid piracy.

  • @brisingr14
    @brisingr14 8 месяцев назад +4

    We revel in the future technology of emulation.

  • @itsjade5138
    @itsjade5138 8 месяцев назад +5

    Love your channel! Keep it up! Binge watch your stuff all the time (:

  • @brichan1851
    @brichan1851 8 месяцев назад +4

    Full physical games are getting harder and harder to keep.
    I just reacquired a copy of Guitar Hero Metallica for the Xbox 360. My old copy was lost a long time ago. I have all of the dlc for it, but it’s saved on an old 360 HDD. My new Xbox 360 does not contain this dlc, so I may/may not be able to transfer the information to my newer system. If I cannot, then that dlc is lost forever.
    This is SO disappointing. I paid for it years ago, but probably cannot access it. Guitar Hero Metallica is not a complete game without the dlc.
    Digital only media and dlc is finite. Giving up control to the publishers and game companies is a danger to the future of gaming. While I may be able to still enjoy the content on the disc (with a working Xbox 360), I cannot experience what I once did so many years ago.
    This is why I am staunchly against an all digital gaming future. We must preserve our hobby as much as we can. The only way we can do that is to own, keep, and preserve physical copies.
    Take care of your games, people. Otherwise, we will be slaves to game publishers and copyright expirations. We will own nothing and we will NOT like it!

  • @MicroBanshee
    @MicroBanshee 8 месяцев назад +1

    I've recently been on a retro gaming binge after re-discovering my 90's consoles, They have all been boxed up since the late 90's, I'm talking Saturn, Megadrive/CD [1&2] Snes, game carts and discs, many of them loose, they've not been played in at least 25 years and have been subjected to many house moves and always been stored in a garage at the various properties, but guess what! they all work. I'm not so sure that the current consoles would be so keen on working in that many years of non use. Great video man.

  • @daedalus547
    @daedalus547 8 месяцев назад +2

    Every cart or disk/disc I clean and dump before it enters my collection. My goal is not only to preserve them for my kids, but to make sure they last for as long as they can.

  • @dbzfanatic278
    @dbzfanatic278 8 месяцев назад +2

    I have discs from the early 1990s that still work. My copy of Killer Cuts that i got in 1995 still works for example. Love the content btw. Im eating a banana as i watch this 😅

  • @joeyjoseph8837
    @joeyjoseph8837 8 месяцев назад +5

    One of the few channels that gets my full attention. Great video as always.

  • @mausmalone
    @mausmalone 8 месяцев назад +2

    To be honest, with 8-bit and 16-bit games I'm not worried about them "going away" - there are plenty of (not so legal but easy) ways to play them. I'm more worried about CRTs going away and the various legal ways of playing them not supporting CRTs (unless you spring for a mister). I'm definitely in the camp that feels like these older games only feel right when you're playing them on a small, consumer-grade CRT. They're still fun otherwise, but this is the experience I remember from my childhood so for me this is how they're "supposed to" look.

  • @SDChargers93
    @SDChargers93 8 месяцев назад +2

    This video is why I have cart dumpers and software to rip and backup cd games.
    This video is great.

  • @DanielBrown-nb9zz
    @DanielBrown-nb9zz 8 месяцев назад +3

    I have had physical games kept across all system types and by my experience disc systems like ps1 tend to get scratched over time by playing them , inserting a game into the system too often also is something to consider. How often are you removing the cartridges? Do you play your games with clean hands and use a sweat cloth to wipe your finger goop ? your N64 needs the games taken out and the pins cleaned from time to time... I could get on to people about the way their games are kept. lol

  • @philyoung9170
    @philyoung9170 8 месяцев назад +3

    I've tolld my 10 year old, "l will never sell any of this which means it will all be yours when l die. That also means, when you rage smash my wavebird, you are actually rage smashing YOUR wavebird!!"

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад +2

      Good way to teach your kid to look out for stuff :)

  • @thevideogamecabinet3681
    @thevideogamecabinet3681 8 месяцев назад +3

    I hate that games are going in the direction of being all digital. This is why I do not care to buy or play Alan Wake 2 right now. I love my physical collection

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol 8 месяцев назад +20

    This is why Emulation is so important.

    • @joeyjockey6400
      @joeyjockey6400 8 месяцев назад +5

      Indeed. Emulation just gets such an undeserved bad rep. It's very crucial to preserve our collection for when god forbid our physical games are no more.

    • @RetroGamesBoy78
      @RetroGamesBoy78 8 месяцев назад +1

      As much as I love video games, I don't actually think video game preservation is important, it seems important to some but things come and go, and I don't think generations in the future will really care about Mario 3 etc, retro gaming from our generation will be even more of a niche hobby than it is now. Today's generations laugh at graphics pre PS3, their retro experience will be totally different to ours, music is very similar, it's unlikely your CD rack is filled with music from the 40's or 50's now is it?

    • @bnthewilderness
      @bnthewilderness 8 месяцев назад

      @@joeyjockey6400Curious, I’m new to collecting retro games and emulations. Do you make a backup from your own game or download it from a database/rom website?

    • @Mauldrex
      @Mauldrex 8 месяцев назад +2

      Game preservation is as much important as arts and books preservation which is really important. theres no reason not to preserve older game. imagine how awesome it would be to play a game people made hundreds of years ago... this is just awesome !

    • @trevorphilips2090
      @trevorphilips2090 7 месяцев назад

      @@RetroGamesBoy78 Interesting that you brought up music, because contemporary music is very shallow and it seems great artist are all ageing. It is one thing that famous rock band get so long in he tooth that they cannot tour anymore, but even OG techno DJs are in their 50s now, and seemingly there is nobody backfilling them.
      Difficulty aside I think Mario 3 is still relevant, and when it comes to the 40s, my kids absolutely love early Tom & Jerry too... :)

  • @paulhudalla9527
    @paulhudalla9527 8 месяцев назад +2

    Good news, I'm one of those weirdos from Gen Z that actually cares about old games. My main focus is currently on 6th/7th gen games, but I do have plans to get to some of the other generations (3rd-5th) eventually, since there are some interesting games in there I want to get at some point.

  • @RetroCheats
    @RetroCheats 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thought the title meant, what happens to your games, when you die... if you got no family members who are into it, probably gets thrown in the trash.

  • @VidproXZ
    @VidproXZ 8 месяцев назад +2

    Gentleman! You have an incredible funny face, i love it. ❤ I enjoyed the video so much, keep up the good work!

  • @catchall4574
    @catchall4574 8 месяцев назад +4

    Love the videos 🤩 keep em coming

  • @h347h
    @h347h 6 месяцев назад +1

    The fact you can go and buy vinyl records and record players at Walmart now is a good omen for physical games going forward.

  • @mikuneverdies6288
    @mikuneverdies6288 8 месяцев назад +2

    "When Our Physical Copies of Games All Die" ,.
    welp thats when I Die~
    R.I.P poor me T-T //

  • @OfficialTruDru
    @OfficialTruDru 8 месяцев назад +2

    Enjoyed this clip and it's hilarious as well and well thought of as well as inventive. Strong points!

  • @masonthomas236
    @masonthomas236 8 месяцев назад +2

    "disc rot" reminds me of all those people who said to get rid of VHS cuz it'll stop working any day now... I've had way more sd cards stop working than tapes

    • @ReinMixTape
      @ReinMixTape 8 месяцев назад +1

      You couldn't have said it better. Old physical media is going strong and will continue to do so.

  • @beo1863
    @beo1863 8 месяцев назад

    I just saw the color scheme with your yellow green blue red t-shirts! You really deserve more views on your videos seriously , good chanel !

  • @Demokirby
    @Demokirby 8 месяцев назад +2

    Some day Timmy is going to show up asking for his game back.

  • @satellachannel6423
    @satellachannel6423 8 месяцев назад +1

    In The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild and his sequel, there's a ninja clan called the Yiga. They're dressed in red and totally obsessed with bananas (they drop it when defeated and you can mess with them using bananas as lures and such).
    Makes me smile.

  • @nincal
    @nincal 8 месяцев назад +3

    Nothing beats a PHYSICAL COPY !!!

  • @OriginalMasters
    @OriginalMasters 8 месяцев назад +2

    Shtick sez: Try being undead-any game looks good at that point.

  • @fan1701
    @fan1701 8 месяцев назад +1

    My son will eventually wind up with my collection and it will probably outlast me. I'll keep collecting but I really don't think physical media is going to be a thing much longer and that is when I'll stop buying new games.

  • @brostenen
    @brostenen 8 месяцев назад +1

    The answer to that big question is easy. You keep holding on to your dead physical media. Then get a flash solution and get a new copy from the internet. You have the original, so it is just a backup. Or you start dumping the entire collection today.

  • @Eddie2P
    @Eddie2P 8 месяцев назад +2

    you put them all on a hdd like a sane collector would

  • @liquidt3ch
    @liquidt3ch 8 месяцев назад +2

    pirates are allready preserving all of these games. unfortunately, without a hacked console, youll have to emulate them. which, in the future, won't be hard to do anyways. we might even have fpga versions of our favorite retro consoles. I mean, we allready do for all the cart systems

  • @joniden2215
    @joniden2215 8 месяцев назад +2

    I'm keeping all my physical copies of games strictly for box art and the manuals that came with the games when the cartridges/discs die.

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад

      I've had a similar thought (if it comes to that) as well.

    • @joniden2215
      @joniden2215 8 месяцев назад

      @@RetroBirdGaming That's one reason I have been collecting Nintendo Power Official Player Guides for games that I love. EDIT: Also other strategy guides for my favorite non-Nintendo games.

  • @unconbentional2044
    @unconbentional2044 8 месяцев назад +1

    I really enjoy your content! Speaking of physical media, maybe you could do a video about the evercade and it's games?

  • @frankhalgas3798
    @frankhalgas3798 8 месяцев назад +2

    NO BLOWING! I always cringe when I see someone blow into a game cartridge. The condensation on the metal contacts from your breath appears to fix a game, but you have doomed your game to death by electrolysis. Instead, use rubbing alcohol with a cotton swab to clean the contacts on problem games and recently purchased used games.

  • @Jolly-Green-Steve
    @Jolly-Green-Steve 8 месяцев назад +2

    You can make back ups of all your games for all your systems that are PS3/X360 and earlier and fit them all on a 4TB hard-drive. Then make a backup of that in case that fails. Problem solved. All these systems have ways of playing your backups whether it be hard/soft mod or multi carts. I don't see how they expect to go disc-less for newer systems when most games are 100 GB plus now and hard-drives are only 1TB in PS5/XSX. Seems like they are gonna just loose out on sales. I don't think most people are gonna want to wait hours playing game switcheroo with re-downloading entire games to play again because of small hard-drive space.

  • @octonoozle
    @octonoozle 8 месяцев назад +4

    Chrono Trigger will still work until 2300 AD.

  • @IowaRetroGamerDad
    @IowaRetroGamerDad 8 месяцев назад +1

    Another excellent video! I recently did a response to your Sega and Nintendo Guy video! Love the channel dude!

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад +1

      Very cool! I'll have to check it out.

  • @JD.78
    @JD.78 8 месяцев назад +2

    As long as manufacturers keep making consoles that use physical games they will be available to buy for a while yet.
    Consumers and collectors are the museums of the future in terms of maintaining and restoring physical video games, keeping them in good condition to be played by future generations.
    Times are changing of course, digital downloads and streaming are (unfortunately?) here to stay.
    Who knows what the future may hold for video games?
    Cheers.

  • @recoveringsam8675
    @recoveringsam8675 8 месяцев назад +2

    Considering the fact dvds are still sold, I think we’ve got a awhile

  • @johnthedon4758
    @johnthedon4758 8 месяцев назад +2

    All of my stuff still works that I had from a kid and it was all brand new. That was in the 90s I'm thinking it might work forever

    • @dapperfan44
      @dapperfan44 8 месяцев назад +2

      All the games I still own from firsthand still work perfectly. The stuff I got secondhand may not be as lucky.

    • @johnthedon4758
      @johnthedon4758 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@dapperfan44 I'll pray for the games

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, taking good care of these games really does help a ton.

  • @OtterloopB
    @OtterloopB 8 месяцев назад +4

    Time for another Friday full of bananas, hilarity and well-articulated commentary, courtesy of the R. Bird :) 🍌

  • @user-hs7ry4nx7l
    @user-hs7ry4nx7l 8 месяцев назад +2

    Put all the games on a 5D optical data storage / Superman memory crystal. No problem.

  • @Casual.Gamer_0000
    @Casual.Gamer_0000 6 месяцев назад +1

    you can always backup the ISO file in the disc, buy some empty disc, burn the isos into the disc, and play thoose. even i do that kind of "backup" with my PS2 / PS3 game collection.
    if your console dies... thats a bigger problem, since as i know, building a PS2 / PS3 console from scratch is very difficult, if not inpossible... and the supply is very low...
    so i suggest buying some old consoles for extra backup.

  • @-Prestoned-
    @-Prestoned- 8 месяцев назад +1

    I've put a raspberry pi zero inside of a NES cartridge which freaks everybody out. Love the vid!!!

  • @ShonenJump121
    @ShonenJump121 8 месяцев назад +6

    I am glad that stuff like Emulation and great emulators exists for these older games.
    Because god knows, the average company doesn't care. 😢

  • @Black-Rat
    @Black-Rat 3 месяца назад +1

    If they die out, I'll find something else to do as a hobby, and life goes on....
    All good things comes to an end, as they say...

  • @MrGryphonv
    @MrGryphonv 8 месяцев назад +1

    'Can't get hit by a car if I never leave the house'
    I can show you some pictures that disproves that thought.

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад

      The thing is that I had a feeling this comment might be coming :)

  • @wettuga2762
    @wettuga2762 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hoarding consoles makes more sense to me than hoarding games. Consoles will definitely fail more often than games will, so having a backup console or two (or three) is the way to go. Also, having some modded consoles to run games from HDD/SSD/SD is also a good fail safe in case games stop working. Cover your bases and you'll be able to play until you die.

    • @Manic_Panic
      @Manic_Panic 8 месяцев назад +1

      1. Buy console.
      2. Refurbish it or you can skip this step and buy it pre-refurbished from a reliable source - I bnought my Xbox/Xbox 360 pre-refurbished and they both have great temperatures.
      3. Mod/jailbreak console.
      4. Install all your game backups on DVDs, USBs or hard drives... whatever you prefer.
      5. Make a 2nd backup of all your games to a brand new, large, unused drive just so you never lose them.
      6. Enjoy having a clutter free house.

    • @wettuga2762
      @wettuga2762 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Manic_Panic All my consoles were refurbished and modded/jailbroken by me, and all my physical games fit in a box, while all physical/digital game backups are safely stored away in my server. Been there, done that 🙂

  • @cactusman07pim
    @cactusman07pim 8 месяцев назад +2

    Just emulate. All kind of ancient art are works of preservation, don´t worry, just enjoy. Stonehenge, Mona Lisa, Symfonie nr. 5, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom all works of preservation in present time, no problem. Happy gaming and other forms of art.

  • @slapshotjack9806
    @slapshotjack9806 8 месяцев назад +1

    Funnily enough most those copies will no longer be compatible with current tech and most of us most likely won’t be around when these games all finally rot away

  • @colt5189
    @colt5189 8 месяцев назад +2

    Don't fear the Reaper!

  • @kromanaut
    @kromanaut 8 месяцев назад

    Laughed out loud at "Nightly stare-down of your games before you go to bed."

  • @FelixGameRoom
    @FelixGameRoom 8 месяцев назад +1

    For me it was the hardware that stopped cooperating first. I wanted to revisit my collection of original Xbox games but the dvd drive died on me. Now I have to stop being a purist and resort to using games from digital distribution, as I am unable to play my authentic discs.

  • @josephbradshaw6985
    @josephbradshaw6985 8 месяцев назад +1

    It's the consoles and controllers that keep going out on me. I finally got a Retron 3 after fighting with my NES for years.

  • @jakep8484
    @jakep8484 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nothing beats owning and playing real carts. Ive emulated years ago but just wasnt the same experience, plus ive never had a cart die yet in over 30 years.

  • @SkyScourgeGod
    @SkyScourgeGod 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have unfortunately had two disk based games that have suffered disc rot before: My copy of Godzilla Save the Earth on the original Xbox and Lost Planet Extreme Condition on the Xbox 360. I bought these games used in the past and both failures were caused by defects due to poor disc resurfacing efforts. Resurfacing can give a disc a new lease on life but if done improperly it could definitely make it fail much earlier than normal. I always try to take care of my disks so I was pretty saddened when I saw this. Godzilla in particular was fairly expensive to replace... 😬

  • @morrisdennison8039
    @morrisdennison8039 8 месяцев назад +2

    Nothing because I’ve backup my physical collection 5 times and when a new memory format comes out I upgrade

  • @chadwolf3840
    @chadwolf3840 8 месяцев назад +2

    If these old cartridges are maintained they’ll last generations from now.

  • @Dzztzt
    @Dzztzt 8 месяцев назад +3

    Records came back from the absolute grave and destroyed cds in value. I think physical games will be long treasured even after the digital wave reminds a generation they don't have control over anything.

    • @RetroBirdGaming
      @RetroBirdGaming  8 месяцев назад +3

      I'd be really interested to see if something like that happens. Fingers crossed :)

    • @Dzztzt
      @Dzztzt 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@RetroBirdGaming I think of physical as a backup for most games. I see where the industry is trying to take us but they arent gamers and despite giving us "free" digital game with things like game pass they can just as easily manipulate and change any digital game cause we got it for "free"

  • @oaktreep1987
    @oaktreep1987 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great video and something i think about occasionally. Personally, when i look at emulation and in combination with VR (EMUVR) , i see that type of emulation, as a very early stage of simulating a retro gaming experience. Will it ever be the same as playing it on orginal hardware? No, but it will be in the future so close to reality, that especially the new generations of people will not miss or know the difference. Just look at older mediums like film or music, not a lot of young people or people in general are still using projectors or record players, but they still can enjoy and experience it at some level. And even if it will all be destroyed by some big disaster, those memories will never be faded