It's scary 😨 imagine your in one that has an accident and can't get out and there's a 🔥, that is scary , you'd have thought Porsche German engineers would have put an override in the car , also why no manual wind down windows? As that way you could just wind down the window and jump out
I’ve just looked on the Porsche forums - if Lee had just pulled the opening mechanism a fraction further it would have opened the door manually - another storm in a tea cup from our dear Lee 😂
Jumped into my 18yr old Rover 75 diesel Tourer after being away 3 weeks. Unlocked on the press of the button. Started 1st attempt. Drive Sheffield to Huthwaite Mon to Fri £35 to top up with diesel once a week. Rush hour traffic both ways. Think when it gets to 20yrs old it’ll be more economical to give the old a full overhaul at the garage & stick with the reliable old thing until I hang my keys up when I retire. Lee you’ve lost more on your EV in 2yrs than my old Rover has lost since 2005 when it was new.
The lack of basic health & safety can't be an accident it has be premiditated 😢😧🫣 imagine how many boards & checks this will have to go true before it's signed off and approved just like the Sudden Death, blood clots experimental poisons, that's no uppppps 🙄
@@YourMomIsHere8008 This is a mainstream manufacturer!!! Porsche is a long established company with a reputation of their quality of engineering... yet this demonstrates a lack of the basic engineering process and governance.
It had been a test. That's why if he hadn't known done that, NOBODY would have known. I'd always bring something like a old-fashioned plain hammer or a some state-of-the-art device that acts like a seat cutter,and a hammer-like device that can bash in a window to get out. Especially if any driver gets into an auto accident,and can't get out. Or it malfunctions,for some reason and it's not even cold! And you don't have a cell phone,(you had forgotten it,and had been late for work) . And lost control of it. And went into a ravine. You have within seconds to cut the seat belt,and somehow get out of the car. Without a hammer,or a device called a hammerdex available on RUclips, you'd be in big trouble. If you had a cell phone, you'd dial 911,or the equivalent emergency number on your cellphone in the United Kingdom. Or internationally. And what WOULD you do then? Or if any driver had felt I'll while driving,and lost control,that person has seconds to react. What WOULD you do?
What gets me with these EV's is their use of electric latches, when a mechanical one works just fine. Why change what has worked for a hundred years to go with something so unreliable. The same goes with the "mirrors". They use cameras and digital screens to replace a mirror. Makes no sense. Why on earth would they use stuff that uses the battery power and in essence reduces the mileage, and puts a drain on the system. Remove all that rubbish, and go back to what has worked for years.
I don't understand, on electric cars, why does everything have to be operated by electricity, even the things like door catches that can be operated perfectly adequately by mechanics. I hate that, on my basic petrol hatchback, the tailgate is released electrically. I would prefer to keep my jump-starter in the boot, but if the battery goes flat.............!ruclips.net/user/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f61f.png
How about owners of cars learn how to use their car work, and all the features the car has and realise that they have to work on something like electricity (Just maybe). I have been to loads of places around the UK in my electric car with no issue at all. I was lucky that after 23,000 miles i got 4 new free tyres from a recall. Hopefully one day the 12v battery will get an upgrade maybe paired with a super capacitor to make sure the battery stays within a certain limit. The learning of driving a car should entail learning how the car works, then maybe things like this would not happen as often. Performing basic checks on a car maybe should be part of learning to drive one.
You know,in rare cases, electric vehicles HAD issues with them heating up,and would be in danger of causing a very troubling situation. And then....??? That video had been a test. If he hadn't done it,NOBODY would had known anything about it. It's important for people to know of the dangers, shortcomings,and perils of owing any type of an electric vehicle. Always bring a old-fashioned hammer if somehow, things get a little dicey. Wouldn't there be a hidden latch somewhere on the drivers' side of the door? As indicated on the Tesla instruction manual? That somewhere that's obscure, there's a hidden latch where you'd have to pull forward the switch,push some button that's not labelled,and then pull BACK the darn thing,just to activate the manual override? I wonder if all electric vehicles have that available feature,just in case any electric vehicle malfunctions for WHATEVER REASON. Then that driver can safely be able to get out of the vehicle. If that doesn't work, there's always an old-fashioned hammer.
You don't realize what a service you have done for the rest of us via your EV experience, advice and evaluations. You are like the Army recon troop who has to leave his/her unit and reconnoiter the enemy and come back and report to the Commander. I wish I could give you a battlefield medal. We can call it "The Meritorious Service Medal for EV Combat." You will be the first such honoree. CONGRATS!
Finally! SOMEBODY who certainly understood what the situation was. If he hadn't done what he had done in that video, NOBODY would know. Never thought that a vehicle that's a Porsche that runs on a e-hybrid. That's a Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-, Hybrid Sport Turismo! And as impressive that car was (or is,still),I had never thought a situation like that could ever happen! Yikes! I'd always bring an old-fashioned hammer or a device called hammerdex; (available on RUclips. ) And also bring it with me - just in case SOMETHING does happen if any unfortunate driver gets locked out of their electric vehicle. For SOME reason. Why, somewhere,in the video, would it be digitally blurred out? Wouldn't want to piss off the car dealerships that had made the magnificent and spectacular vehicle, would they?😅😅😅. Anyway, it's worth noting that thanks to informative videos like this,we all now know what to expect if something like that DOES happen.
You can. This is something that is required by law I believe for just this occasion. There will be a manual release lever or mechanism in the door somewhere.
This isn't so much an EV issue, it's a modern car design issue where everything has to be electronic. I'm sure it's why we're seeing car fires on both ICE & EV as the electronics is now spread throughout the car and faults breed in complexity.
Reminds me of a 1972 horror short made in Spain called la Cabina. Where a man uses a telephone box and gets trapped inside. People try to get him out and eventually the telephone company arrive and take him and the box away on the back of a lorry to an establishment in the middle of nowhere. They set him down in a long line of others in the same circumstances.The earliest drop offs have expired and decomposed to skeletal form. Can just picture a field full of EV's with skeletons at the wheel.😨😨😂😂
Same thing happened to James May. Apparently there’s a12 volt battery that must be kept charged. There was a very complicated procedure to get it out to get it charged. He actually made an attachment so he could trickle charge it without removing three or four large car parts. Yet another reason not to buy an ev
Keep a small hammer in your car in case you have to smash your way out then have a sledge hammer handy and pulverise the bl--dy thing to pieces count your losses and buy a proper petrol car.
So, to fact check this I looked at the online manual for the Taycan and then other models. The following procedure is the same for every modern Porsche, including 911’s and the Boxster that he’d have had previously. Nothing to do with it being an EV or a Taycan. The fact is that the doors have a mechanical release which must be pulled twice. This will open the doors when the 12v battery is completely discharged / circuitry inoperable and would work in an actual emergency. However, the manual also states that the doors cannot be opened from the inside if the emergency key was used to open the car, which I’m guessing it’s what has happened here. So, nothing to do with being electric - it’s just how Porsche have implemented security across ALL of their cars.
That Porsche vehicle may not had been a electric vehicle,but somehow,in some way,for some reason,that driver in *that* video.....got stuck! I never thought that vehicles that run as a e-hybrid EVER got into a situation like any electric vehicle that malfunctions. Or like any electric vehicle that doesn't malfunction,but unexpectedly RUNS OUT COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARGE !! Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh NOOO!! So,what DO you do? I'd always bring an old-fashioned hammer or some state-of-the-art hammer-like device that has a feature that can also cut away the seat belt...and in case of an emergency,the driver of any electric vehicle can safely get out. If, somehow,that driver had forgotten to bring a cell phone with him/her,and can't call out! What if the stupid electric vehicle didn't have any battery power,and unexpectedly ran out of juice? And the driver and everyone else in that EV had gotten stranded? Right in the middle of a snowstorm? Or not in a snowstorm,but in very cold weather? And it had been raining? Windy. What DO you do,then? I'd always bring a emergency blanket,and/or thermal blankets, plenty of snacks,and a device that can also cut the seat belt,and break away the window,in case there's no one can help. And miles away from civilization... What DO you do,then?
Even back in the 90's while I worked in R&D making lab equipment, there 'Always' had to be a secondary mechaincal failsafe/override for anything that had electronic sensors, latches, thermal cut outs etc. Just bloody common sense.
This is Steve's wife. I was horrified to see you trapped in your EV car. You could have died of suffocation. These horrid cars will have to be banned and very soon. The money side of things comes second to your health. Please take care and try to get a normal vehicle as soon as you can. I am so sorry for you.
It will be a long time suffering in a locked EV car of your own making. Be educated, Aux deep cycle gell batteries are a flaw in the design of EV's Powering the electronics when car is not being driven. ie drain by central locking, car alarm, and and car computer. And eventual depletion of the Aux 12V deep cycle gell battery.
I can really understand your frustration, that was a frightening situation you got into being locked inside the car, & l agree, what if you were out in the middle of nowhere & this happened.! Something all EV owners should know: EVs don't catch fire as often as gas or diesel cars, but when they do , they are VERY difficult to put out, so don't even think of parking it in the garage, you could lose your house! Many fire departments are dunking on-fire EVs into portable tanks of water to put them out .
Just because you don't understand how an EV works, doesn't mean they need to be banned. I am on my second EV with more than 200,000 km under my belt and have never had a problem. Ever. Most reliable car I've ever owned in 30+ years of car ownership.
Can you imagine sitting in the car in the middle of nowhere at night with zero electricity, can't get out and your phone runs out and then start to smell burning 🤯 and your dollop of 💩 won't put the fire out 😱
I had to decide between a Taycan and a V6 Alfa. People all said don’t get the Alfa as they are unreliable but I got the Alfa as it was the last chance (I thought) for a top petrol engined car. Turned out the Alfa has been pretty much faultless and your videos have made me realise I’ve dodged a bullet. Will stick with my thirsty, rare but glorious sounding car for the foreseeable future. Only down the road from you so if you ever see a red Alfa flashing you, it’s only a hello!
In the 1060's on the Sandy River road a Mercury went into the river from ice on the road. She and her 3 chilren died as the Electric windows nd door locks would not work as the river water shorted it all out; PRAY your EV Never gets too wet !
"I wasn't planning on doing this, obviously" Lee, or rather MacMaster... With an EV, you must ALWAYS be prepared for great content and recording, anything you do will potentially be great for videoing. But what if Sharon hadn't been at home? Electronic door release is such a stupid idea, I am glad I have an old car that is purely mechanical in nature for the doors, and unless gravity fails... It will open door, power or no power.
My son bought a brand new MG4 and it ended up stranding them over 150 miles from home. It simply wouldn't charge up the 51Kwh battery. I ended up having to rescue them by driving 70 miles to meet them in my diesel, then take them home. Recovery took the car away from where it was stranded 2 days later and took it to the local MG dealer where it stayed for 4 months. Turned out it had something to do with a 12v battery system failure that they just couldn't seem to fix. They were eventually given a brand new replacement.
I have been designing EVs and Hybrids for 20 years. Most EVs do not maintain the 12V battery correctly including draining them much faster than a standard ICE vehicle. The DC/DC converters used in EVs do NOT properly charge or maintain the 12V battery properly. If the system does not shut down properly it will drain the 12V battery. If you have an EV you should install a quick disconnect for the 12V battery. That will keep the 12V battery charged, but the vehicle will reset every time. Your choice, a dead car or a car that resets.
One thing I don't understand is why taking an EV for a drive to recharge the 12v battery works since they don't have an engine driven alternator. Is there a system which cuts in to take some charge from the main battery when the vehicle is moving?
Glad you got out safely, Lee, and the AA man got you sorted. One day - if it hasn't already happened somewhere in the world - someone is going to get locked inside an EV and the lithium battery is going to self-combust .....
Tip...buy one of those mini hammers( the ones with a solid metal point) that are designed for such an occasion when you need to break toughened glass. You may have to replace your window, but at least you will still be alive. Cheers from Australia.
You were fortunate that it wasn't worse. The media has reported that many have caught fire recently while charging, so taking a nap inside while waiting for it to charge, well that may happen and no escape.
I am a Auto Electrician I am well aware of the electrical issues with modern ice cars and it would seem these EV cars are worse all I can say is Vehicles for the general public are a failure in their present state.
This is a serious safety issue. A car with this kind of fault, not being able to manually open the doors, should not have past the required safety tests. It's literally a death trap. Get yourself a window crushing device.
I’m watching this, sitting in my Tesla MY staying cool with the AC. If the battery goes, I’ll open the door with the manual override handle, no key required, no panic necessary.
Make sure the passenger door emergency release works... Tesla latches and locks are known to fail..... You may want to know ahead of time if you have a backup plan. You are enjoying the engineering of door releases that only TESLA and everyone else who ever built a car already had figured out. It seems some companies on the luxury end have added the luxury of no escape. They of course will claim it was done that way for safety and security.
So let me get this right .If the car is in an accident and your injured and all power is cut off and the 12v battery and high voltage battery is damaged .. venting fumes & about to explode in to fire ...you're in your own burning coffin ... potentially a death trap !
@@captainpugwash3791 well unless you have read the manual it will tell you the door release from the inside is two stage, first stage is electronic and needs power, you then have to pull further and second stage is mechanical and lets you escape. Teslas have a secondary lever which makes it even more hidden.Thank you
I've always thought EV technology wasn't quite right, yet (as I've mentioned in other posts), you are simply confirming my decision not to buy one for a few years until the tech improves. Thanks.
I had a neighbour go on holiday for a couple of weeks. Leaving his petrol car on his driveway. Before he got back the car alarm started randomly going off. I assume that some car alarms go off when the 12 volt battery is about to go flat. Until it is completely flat.
Of course, that is where we are at Lee. Every single car advert on TV is for those electric monstrosities. We are going to have to have them no matter what we do. What a nightmare. I am 79 and I will stick with my Mini Cooper diesel until my dying day.
If you are in an EV with no manual emergency override to open the door(s), and it catches fire, killing the power, you burn to death screaming... Can bigger people even get out of the windows?
There’s just way too much that can go wrong with an EV no matter who makes them. They obviously depreciate faster, tires wear out faster and the resale value is total trash because no one is going to want a used battery. When my Prius battery died (barely under warranty), Toyota did replace it but then I was informed that the next time it happened the car would be out of warranty and I would be responsible for replacing the $15,000 battery!!!!!! I traded the Prius for an all gas powered Corolla. I will never buy an electric car!
I can’t believe you shut the door after not being able to open it because the battery was flat in the first place. What happens when they have a major problem like a fire or a crash where the electrics are impeded? Dire consequences. You definitely need a break glass hammer in the glove box or door pocket.
Lee that’s absolutely crazy no override to open the door from the inside. How dangerous that can be imagine if you had a young child in the car and you had to use a motorway emergency phone and your spare key was with you. They need to look into that definitely avoid EV cars.👍🏴
Avoid Porshe, yes. I had Nissan Leaf for the last 7 years and no problems whatsoever . Haven't seen mechanics even once for the last 70k miles ( yes, it went for MOT and general checks, but no breakdowns(
Not being able to manually open the door from inside if the electrical system fails is potentially deadly, imagine an elderly person who didn't have a working phone with them, those cars should be recalled.
I would imagine it is just the 12V battery that controls all functions but the main battery still has charge left in it. Here is a comforting thought......you are now locked in the car, you would get a tad crispy if a thermal runaway occurred. Picture sat at the services, sat in the car with your latte and it on charge when a thermal runaway occurs and frazzles the door locking module before you can get out...!
A potentially fatal flaw. With a person prone to panic (not you) and a cardiac problem an ordinary difficulty becomes your last problem. Your video made me uncomfortable as I am prone to panic. Best of luck with it all.
Your very luck your not in Australia 🇦🇺 as our cars can reach 80C inside on a hot day and adults and children have died within a hour. I'm a first responder and have been to 2 fatal due to this very serious issue. I do not see this as the future.
I'm worried you wouldn't be able to brake the window. They are using tempered glass now. I felt your pain. Ontario Canada. I love my gasoline car, as much as you want to get rid of your ev.
I own a VW group car from 2001 and it has dead locks which stop you opening the door from inside. It is supposed to be a security thing but it can leave you unable to open the doors if it malfunctions. I think it is not allowed in the USA probably due to safety concerns.
I would not knowingly get in to a vehicle that didn't have a mechanical overide to open the door. It should be a legal requirement to have a mechanical overide in an emergency situation.
This is truly scary, to be locked in your car. Complete nightmare. I'm never going in one of them traps. Lee, you need to sue the manifacture, you could of died bcs of this stupid ev
Klaus says you’re not allowed to go to Leeds today. You were tracked eating too much meat in Spain and your carbon credits were all used up on your Ryanscare flight. 🤣
What makes me laugh is that when these noddy cars run out of electricity they send the AA with a diesel generator to charge it up. My car has one built in, its a diesel car and never runs out of electricity. Clown world.
Great anti theft feature. I would sell that thing asap. Why do people buy these ill thought out things. Pick any badge, there's stupid faults with 'em all...
We have a Chevy Tahoe, Range Rover,v that we bought new in 2018 and 2020, respectively. my favorite 2009 GMC Pick-up with 187 000 miles. Zero problems! The Chevy has been reliable 15 MPG, but the Range Rover has been fashionably towed more than under self power.
I remember sitting in a Corvette in a showroom at least 20 years ago, maybe more, and the locks were electric and my first question was "what if I am in an accident and the battery or wiring is broken, how do I get out?". Electronic locks are galactically dumb, there should be a mechanical linkage to fall back on, just like for brakes. While we're at it electronic emergency brakes are dumb too, there should be a lever you can directly control. What has happened to car designers? Do they still live in their mum's basements and play video games all day without ever experiencing the world the way it actually is? DO they get paid for this crap? Stuff breaks and needless points of failure are - needless.
There should be a battery cut switch. On my petrol and diesel cars the only way I can leave for a few weeks is to disconnect the negative terminal on the battery as alarm systems drain out the 12v battery. In an EV you’d think they could rig them so that they use the main batteries as well.
This was a real eye opening event!!! There is no way in hell I would own an electric car ever after seeing you TRAPPED !!!!!! I was getting panicky for you !!!! I’ll take my gas powered Porsche thank you!! Good thing Sharon was home as well!!
They didn't put a mechanical linkage to the door lock because they wanted to save weight and cost. That's how stupid these automobile geniuses are. No common sense.
@@oldgit15 I'm talking from the inside. My last car (Oldsmobile) had electric door locks. When I wanted to get out, all I had to do was pull the handle-mechanical linkage.
There's a lesson here in not closing a door you couldn't open without a key from the outside ;) It shouldn't even be legal to make a car that you can't open the doors on from the inside though, why is that not physical? How does it pass a safety test? Is there a safety release that you just didn't know about?
Yes I heard this as well. Apparently the brakes failed at 30mph and he couldn't switch the car off or stop. Lol I'll stick to garlic bread as the future 😊
Absolutely crazy! I have tried and failed to smash a car window from the outside of a car and couldn’t do it. From the inside for me, it would be impossible I’m sure particularly if you didn’t have anything in the car to assist! Glad you got out though 😅
Literally it's a death trap , the sensible thing would be a manual wind down window instead of everything being electric or at least have a way to open the doors from inside
Good day! I am glad you did not get hurt when you got locked in your car. It is a problem of having too much technology inside modern cars especially EV cars. Why do the door latches have to be electronic? Old fashioned mechanical car door latches work without issues and does not need a working battery to work.
A friend of mine was in a Tesla crash and was burned to death. When the power goes out and the fire starts, you are carbon dust... No car should be allowed on the road that cannot be opened if the power fails. Basic stuff folks...
Ever since I first opened a Tesla door, about ten years ago, I have had this question in my mind. I immediately noticed that the handles, outside and inside was just a big electric button. In my scenarios I didn't think that it could be a problem in one's own driveway, but what about an accident? Submerged in a river etc? Good to know, at least, that I was right 🤔 Still not a wise decision by the manufacturers!
This was hilarious! Love Lee's terified eyes when things go wrong.......worth the admission fee on its own! Seriously though, just imagine accidentally driving one of these into a river and the battery/electrics failing.
Crazy stuff, i was actually getting nervous watching you stuck in this thing. It seems that if one was going to purchase an ev that one would have to do a lot of research just to know all the intricate details or problems that come with an ev that may arise.
The fact that the door locks work entirely on electric is VERY worrying!
I am put off of an EV for life.
It's scary 😨 imagine your in one that has an accident and can't get out and there's a 🔥, that is scary , you'd have thought Porsche German engineers would have put an override in the car , also why no manual wind down windows? As that way you could just wind down the window and jump out
Buy a classic MGA, Triumph, Sunbeam, Riley, Wolseley, .... and many more.
I’ve just looked on the Porsche forums - if Lee had just pulled the opening mechanism a fraction further it would have opened the door manually - another storm in a tea cup from our dear Lee 😂
@@jd3552 Rover 220Turbo most fun cheap you can have lol
Jumped into my 18yr old Rover 75 diesel Tourer after being away 3 weeks. Unlocked on the press of the button. Started 1st attempt. Drive Sheffield to Huthwaite Mon to Fri £35 to top up with diesel once a week. Rush hour traffic both ways.
Think when it gets to 20yrs old it’ll be more economical to give the old a full overhaul at the garage & stick with the reliable old thing until I hang my keys up when I retire.
Lee you’ve lost more on your EV in 2yrs than my old Rover has lost since 2005 when it was new.
Never ever will I buy an EV, stick to my 1.2 petrol car for as long as possible.
Me too!!!
how are you gonna get anywhere with a 1.2 lmao
As a professional engineer, I find it absolutely astonishing at the total lack of any level of safety analysis here. This should be a major recall.
Exactly. This is why I prefer the more mainstream vehicle manufacturers for EVs, instead of Tesla.
The lack of basic health & safety can't be an accident it has be premiditated 😢😧🫣 imagine how many boards & checks this will have to go true before it's signed off and approved just like the Sudden Death, blood clots experimental poisons, that's no uppppps 🙄
@@YourMomIsHere8008 This is a mainstream manufacturer!!! Porsche is a long established company with a reputation of their quality of engineering... yet this demonstrates a lack of the basic engineering process and governance.
@@YourMomIsHere8008 Porsche is a mainstream vehicle and this happened Evs are the issue
@@niceboy60 It can happen in many modern cars. The fact it’s an EV makes no difference.
Foolish to close the door, especially when you had issues opening the door with a dead battery!
It had been a test. That's why if he hadn't known done that, NOBODY would have known.
I'd always bring something like a old-fashioned plain hammer or a some state-of-the-art device that acts like a seat cutter,and a hammer-like device that can bash in a window to get out.
Especially if any driver gets into an auto accident,and can't get out.
Or it malfunctions,for some reason and it's not even cold! And you don't have a cell phone,(you had forgotten it,and had been late for work) . And lost control of it. And went into a ravine.
You have within seconds to cut the seat belt,and somehow get out of the car.
Without a hammer,or a device called a hammerdex available on RUclips, you'd be in big trouble.
If you had a cell phone, you'd dial 911,or the equivalent emergency number on your cellphone in the United Kingdom.
Or internationally. And what WOULD you do then?
Or if any driver had felt I'll while driving,and lost control,that person has seconds to react.
What WOULD you do?
What gets me with these EV's is their use of electric latches, when a mechanical one works just fine. Why change what has worked for a hundred years to go with something so unreliable. The same goes with the "mirrors". They use cameras and digital screens to replace a mirror. Makes no sense. Why on earth would they use stuff that uses the battery power and in essence reduces the mileage, and puts a drain on the system. Remove all that rubbish, and go back to what has worked for years.
I mean you watched him open the car mechanically with the key, and then posted that drivel. Jesus.
Porsche and all car manufacturers need to incorporate an emergency door release in their cars.
I don't understand, on electric cars, why does everything have to be operated by electricity, even the things like door catches that can be operated perfectly adequately by mechanics. I hate that, on my basic petrol hatchback, the tailgate is released electrically. I would prefer to keep my jump-starter in the boot, but if the battery goes flat.............!ruclips.net/user/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f61f.png
How about owners of cars learn how to use their car work, and all the features the car has and realise that they have to work on something like electricity (Just maybe). I have been to loads of places around the UK in my electric car with no issue at all. I was lucky that after 23,000 miles i got 4 new free tyres from a recall. Hopefully one day the 12v battery will get an upgrade maybe paired with a super capacitor to make sure the battery stays within a certain limit. The learning of driving a car should entail learning how the car works, then maybe things like this would not happen as often. Performing basic checks on a car maybe should be part of learning to drive one.
What happens if one of these cars does this when a battery soils itself and suffers a thermal event?
Crematorium mode activated.
You know,in rare cases, electric vehicles HAD issues with them heating up,and would be in danger of causing a very troubling situation.
And then....???
That video had been a test. If he hadn't done it,NOBODY would had known anything about it.
It's important for people to know of the dangers, shortcomings,and perils of owing any type of an electric vehicle.
Always bring a old-fashioned hammer if somehow, things get a little dicey.
Wouldn't there be a hidden latch somewhere on the drivers' side of the door?
As indicated on the Tesla instruction manual? That somewhere that's obscure, there's a hidden latch where you'd have to pull forward the switch,push some button that's not labelled,and then pull BACK the darn thing,just to activate the manual override?
I wonder if all electric vehicles have that available feature,just in case any electric vehicle malfunctions for WHATEVER REASON.
Then that driver can safely be able to get out of the vehicle.
If that doesn't work, there's always an old-fashioned hammer.
You don't realize what a service you have done for the rest of us via your EV experience, advice and evaluations. You are like the Army recon troop who has to leave his/her unit and reconnoiter the enemy and come back and report to the Commander. I wish I could give you a battlefield medal. We can call it "The Meritorious Service Medal for EV Combat." You will be the first such honoree. CONGRATS!
Finally! SOMEBODY who certainly understood what the situation was.
If he hadn't done what he had done in that video, NOBODY would know.
Never thought that a vehicle that's a Porsche that runs on a e-hybrid.
That's a Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-, Hybrid Sport Turismo!
And as impressive that car was (or is,still),I had never thought a situation like that could ever happen!
Yikes!
I'd always bring an old-fashioned hammer or a device called hammerdex; (available on RUclips. )
And also bring it with me - just in case SOMETHING does happen if any unfortunate driver gets locked out of their electric vehicle.
For SOME reason.
Why, somewhere,in the video, would it be digitally blurred out?
Wouldn't want to piss off the car dealerships that had made the magnificent and spectacular vehicle, would they?😅😅😅.
Anyway, it's worth noting that thanks to informative videos like this,we all now know what to expect if something like that DOES happen.
It’s crazy that you can’t manually open the door from inside.
What if the car was on fire and all the electrics were dead?
You can. This is something that is required by law I believe for just this occasion. There will be a manual release lever or mechanism in the door somewhere.
You die a very horrible death like the guy in America in his Tesla.
You die a very horrible death like the guy in America in his Tesla.
a couple of puffs of thar toxic gas and you are dead, thermal runaway is fast
Wot luny bin wants a ev...
Just be grateful that your Porche didn’t decide to have it’s batteries self combust as EV’s are known to do occasionally.
No way I will by an EV ever
This isn't so much an EV issue, it's a modern car design issue where everything has to be electronic. I'm sure it's why we're seeing car fires on both ICE & EV as the electronics is now spread throughout the car and faults breed in complexity.
I will NEVER own an electric car. Sticking with my petrol Toyota Yaris which is 24 years young
I agree, I'm keeping my 1993 Toyota Corolla - still going fine after 30 years. Really reliable cars!
Reminds me of a 1972 horror short made in Spain called la Cabina. Where a man uses a telephone box and gets trapped inside. People try to get him out and eventually the telephone company arrive and take him and the box away on the back of a lorry to an establishment in the middle of nowhere. They set him down in a long line of others in the same circumstances.The earliest drop offs have expired and decomposed to skeletal form. Can just picture a field full of EV's with skeletons at the wheel.😨😨😂😂
Same thing happened to James May. Apparently there’s a12 volt battery that must be kept charged. There was a very complicated procedure to get it out to get it charged. He actually made an attachment so he could trickle charge it without removing three or four large car parts. Yet another reason not to buy an ev
Can you imagine being stuck in it and not having Your cell . If you were in a remote location you could Freeze to death
Now imagine the car were to catch fire and you're trapped in the car...
Keep a small hammer in your car in case you have to smash your way out then have a sledge hammer handy and pulverise the bl--dy thing to pieces count your losses and buy a proper petrol car.
So, to fact check this I looked at the online manual for the Taycan and then other models. The following procedure is the same for every modern Porsche, including 911’s and the Boxster that he’d have had previously. Nothing to do with it being an EV or a Taycan.
The fact is that the doors have a mechanical release which must be pulled twice. This will open the doors when the 12v battery is completely discharged / circuitry inoperable and would work in an actual emergency. However, the manual also states that the doors cannot be opened from the inside if the emergency key was used to open the car, which I’m guessing it’s what has happened here.
So, nothing to do with being electric - it’s just how Porsche have implemented security across ALL of their cars.
That Porsche vehicle may not had been a electric vehicle,but somehow,in some way,for some reason,that driver in *that* video.....got stuck!
I never thought that vehicles that run as a e-hybrid EVER got into a situation like any electric vehicle that malfunctions.
Or like any electric vehicle that doesn't malfunction,but unexpectedly RUNS OUT COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARGE !! Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh NOOO!!
So,what DO you do? I'd always bring an old-fashioned hammer or some state-of-the-art hammer-like device that has a feature that can also cut away the seat belt...and in case of an emergency,the driver of any electric vehicle can safely get out.
If, somehow,that driver had forgotten to bring a cell phone with him/her,and can't call out!
What if the stupid electric vehicle didn't have any battery power,and unexpectedly ran out of juice?
And the driver and everyone else in that EV had gotten stranded?
Right in the middle of a snowstorm?
Or not in a snowstorm,but in very cold weather?
And it had been raining? Windy.
What DO you do,then?
I'd always bring a emergency blanket,and/or thermal blankets, plenty of snacks,and a device that can also cut the seat belt,and break away the window,in case there's no one can help.
And miles away from civilization...
What DO you do,then?
So seriously there is no manual linkage lever hidden in that door somewhere that will release that door ????
That is insane if true !!!
There is supposed to be I pulled really hard and it didn't work. Chipped the door handle u pulled so hard.
Good lord,,, the car's a menace !!@@TheMacMaster
Even back in the 90's while I worked in R&D making lab equipment, there 'Always' had to be a secondary mechaincal failsafe/override for anything that had electronic sensors, latches, thermal cut outs etc. Just bloody common sense.
This is Steve's wife. I was horrified to see you trapped in your EV car. You could have died of suffocation. These horrid cars will have to be banned and very soon. The money side of things comes second to your health. Please take care and try to get a normal vehicle as soon as you can. I am so sorry for you.
It will be a long time suffering in a locked EV car of your own making. Be educated, Aux deep cycle gell batteries are a flaw in the design of EV's Powering the electronics when car is not being driven. ie drain by central locking, car alarm, and and car computer. And eventual depletion of the Aux 12V deep cycle gell battery.
Not being able to open the door from the inside is a huge safety concern. If the battery gives out and then catches fire...
I can really understand your frustration, that was a frightening situation you got into being locked inside the car, & l agree, what if you were out in the middle of nowhere & this happened.! Something all EV owners should know: EVs don't catch fire as often as gas or diesel cars, but when they do , they are VERY difficult to put out, so don't even think of parking it in the garage, you could lose your house! Many fire departments are dunking on-fire EVs into portable tanks of water to put them out .
Being duped by the government into buying an electric pile of trash. That car is a real danger to use.
So glad you are ok Lee. These vehicles need to be banned asap ! What a nightmare for you xx
Just because you don't understand how an EV works, doesn't mean they need to be banned. I am on my second EV with more than 200,000 km under my belt and have never had a problem. Ever. Most reliable car I've ever owned in 30+ years of car ownership.
@@YourMomIsHere8008 course it is
Can you imagine sitting in the car in the middle of nowhere at night with zero electricity, can't get out and your phone runs out and then start to smell burning 🤯 and your dollop of 💩 won't put the fire out 😱
I had to decide between a Taycan and a V6 Alfa. People all said don’t get the Alfa as they are unreliable but I got the Alfa as it was the last chance (I thought) for a top petrol engined car.
Turned out the Alfa has been pretty much faultless and your videos have made me realise I’ve dodged a bullet.
Will stick with my thirsty, rare but glorious sounding car for the foreseeable future.
Only down the road from you so if you ever see a red Alfa flashing you, it’s only a hello!
In the 1060's on the Sandy River road a Mercury went into the river from ice on the road. She and her 3 chilren died as the Electric windows nd door locks would not work as the river water shorted it all out; PRAY your EV Never gets too wet !
1960's
A very sad story. My sympathies to you. And thank you very much for your warning.
"I wasn't planning on doing this, obviously"
Lee, or rather MacMaster... With an EV, you must ALWAYS be prepared for great content and recording, anything you do will potentially be great for videoing.
But what if Sharon hadn't been at home? Electronic door release is such a stupid idea, I am glad I have an old car that is purely mechanical in nature for the doors, and unless gravity fails... It will open door, power or no power.
They should have to fit manual window winders as a legal requirement.
Get rid of the bloody thing.
That could have been a lot worse.
Thank god it wasn't 🙏
My son bought a brand new MG4 and it ended up stranding them over 150 miles from home. It simply wouldn't charge up the 51Kwh battery. I ended up having to rescue them by driving 70 miles to meet them in my diesel, then take them home. Recovery took the car away from where it was stranded 2 days later and took it to the local MG dealer where it stayed for 4 months. Turned out it had something to do with a 12v battery system failure that they just couldn't seem to fix. They were eventually given a brand new replacement.
I have been designing EVs and Hybrids for 20 years. Most EVs do not maintain the 12V battery correctly including draining them much faster than a standard ICE vehicle. The DC/DC converters used in EVs do NOT properly charge or maintain the 12V battery properly. If the system does not shut down properly it will drain the 12V battery. If you have an EV you should install a quick disconnect for the 12V battery. That will keep the 12V battery charged, but the vehicle will reset every time. Your choice, a dead car or a car that resets.
One thing I don't understand is why taking an EV for a drive to recharge the 12v battery works since they don't have an engine driven alternator. Is there a system which cuts in to take some charge from the main battery when the vehicle is moving?
so if you sever the battery connection in an accident your not getting out unless you can smash the window hope its not on fire
I feel like not having manual door release is a safety issue. Shouldn't really be legal.
Glad you got out safely, Lee, and the AA man got you sorted. One day - if it hasn't already happened somewhere in the world - someone is going to get locked inside an EV and the lithium battery is going to self-combust .....
Tip...buy one of those mini hammers( the ones with a solid metal point) that are designed for such an occasion when you need to break toughened glass. You may have to replace your window, but at least you will still be alive. Cheers from Australia.
You were fortunate that it wasn't worse. The media has reported that many have caught fire recently while charging, so taking a nap inside while waiting for it to charge, well that may happen and no escape.
Lee, that was scary being locked in the car. Good job you had someone to help you get out.
Oh dear! That could of been very dangerous! I'm glad you managed to get out, MacMaster.
Moral of the story - do not buy an electric car.
I am a Auto Electrician I am well aware of the electrical issues with modern ice cars and it would seem these EV cars are worse all I can say is
Vehicles for the general public are a failure in their present state.
This is a serious safety issue. A car with this kind of fault, not being able to manually open the doors, should not have past the required safety tests. It's literally a death trap.
Get yourself a window crushing device.
I’m watching this, sitting in my Tesla MY staying cool with the AC. If the battery goes, I’ll open the door with the manual override handle, no key required, no panic necessary.
…probably waiting for 45 minutes for it to charge, are you??😂
Make sure the passenger door emergency release works... Tesla latches and locks are known to fail..... You may want to know ahead of time if you have a backup plan. You are enjoying the engineering of door releases that only TESLA and everyone else who ever built a car already had figured out. It seems some companies on the luxury end have added the luxury of no escape. They of course will claim it was done that way for safety and security.
Impressed that the AA sorted your problem so quick. Must be an issue that they are well aware of.
So let me get this right .If the car is in an accident and your injured and all power is cut off and the 12v battery and high voltage battery is damaged .. venting fumes & about to explode in to fire ...you're in your own burning coffin ... potentially a death trap !
They have a manual release inside
@@colinmorand129 Obviously not
@@captainpugwash3791 well unless you have read the manual it will tell you the door release from the inside is two stage, first stage is electronic and needs power, you then have to pull further and second stage is mechanical and lets you escape. Teslas have a secondary lever which makes it even more hidden.Thank you
I pulled it really hard, it did nothing! I'd have snapped it if I'd pulled any harder.
@@TheMacMaster what's more important to you Lee taking a loss on a car or your life this could happen get rid get a nice petrol motor.
Batteries go flat. It's that simple. There is no way EVs are reliable. They have no way of being safe and effective.
I've always thought EV technology wasn't quite right, yet (as I've mentioned in other posts), you are simply confirming my decision not to buy one for a few years until the tech improves. Thanks.
A few years?! I don't get why y'all think EVs are on a trajectory to equivalency. I just don't get it.
Why would EV Tech improve when Windows gets worse each year?
@@clearview5281 🤣🤣🤣
@@Brian-nx3yp Neither do I, TBF. I can't see myself buying one for a LONG time. Not unless we get hover cars, obviously.....
I had a neighbour go on holiday for a couple of weeks. Leaving his petrol car on his driveway. Before he got back the car alarm started randomly going off. I assume that some car alarms go off when the 12 volt battery is about to go flat. Until it is completely flat.
As long as petrol powered cars are still available, I will nEVer by an EV!
Of course, that is where we are at Lee. Every single car advert on TV is for those electric monstrosities. We are going to have to have them no matter what we do. What a nightmare. I am 79 and I will stick with my Mini Cooper diesel until my dying day.
That's it! I'm done! No EVs for me!!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣😂 I'm glad you were able to be rescued! ⚡️🚘 Welcome Home! 🇬🇧😊👍
If you are in an EV with no manual emergency override to open the door(s), and it catches fire, killing the power, you burn to death screaming... Can bigger people even get out of the windows?
This was truly frightening. I actually prefer manual roll down windows.
funny, never had this trouble with my petrol car, cant be doing with stress like that.....
There’s just way too much that can go wrong with an EV no matter who makes them. They obviously depreciate faster, tires wear out faster and the resale value is total trash because no one is going to want a used battery. When my Prius battery died (barely under warranty), Toyota did replace it but then I was informed that the next time it happened the car would be out of warranty and I would be responsible for replacing the $15,000 battery!!!!!! I traded the Prius for an all gas powered Corolla. I will never buy an electric car!
There's a lesson here Lee: Never, ever trust the Government either politicians or civil servants.
I can’t believe you shut the door after not being able to open it because the battery was flat in the first place. What happens when they have a major problem like a fire or a crash where the electrics are impeded? Dire consequences. You definitely need a break glass hammer in the glove box or door pocket.
EVs are a health hazard, and in a risk assesment scenario, they are right up there with putting you head in a gas oven.
Danger danger
Lee that’s absolutely crazy no override to open the door from the inside. How dangerous that can be imagine if you had a young child in the car and you had to use a motorway emergency phone and your spare key was with you. They need to look into that definitely avoid EV cars.👍🏴
Avoid Porshe, yes. I had Nissan Leaf for the last 7 years and no problems whatsoever . Haven't seen mechanics even once for the last 70k miles ( yes, it went for MOT and general checks, but no breakdowns(
imagine being trapped inside after an accident and a black smoke started what would you do??? it’s a death trap
Not being able to manually open the door from inside if the electrical system fails is potentially deadly, imagine an elderly person who didn't have a working phone with them, those cars should be recalled.
What a great bit of technical achievement.
Thank god for my mazda camper and mitsubishi pickup.
Vehicles you can rely on!
How does the car lock if there's no power?
I would imagine it is just the 12V battery that controls all functions but the main battery still has charge left in it. Here is a comforting thought......you are now locked in the car, you would get a tad crispy if a thermal runaway occurred. Picture sat at the services, sat in the car with your latte and it on charge when a thermal runaway occurs and frazzles the door locking module before you can get out...!
Never buy a car that can't open with a flat battery. I can't believe the door doesn't have a lever to release the latch.
A potentially fatal flaw. With a person prone to panic (not you) and a cardiac problem an ordinary difficulty becomes your last problem. Your video made me uncomfortable as I am prone to panic. Best of luck with it all.
Your very luck your not in Australia 🇦🇺 as our cars can reach 80C inside on a hot day and adults and children have died within a hour. I'm a first responder and have been to 2 fatal due to this very serious issue. I do not see this as the future.
I'm worried you wouldn't be able to brake the window. They are using tempered glass now. I felt your pain. Ontario Canada. I love my gasoline car, as much as you want to get rid of your ev.
I own a VW group car from 2001 and it has dead locks which stop you opening the door from inside. It is supposed to be a security thing but it can leave you unable to open the doors if it malfunctions. I think it is not allowed in the USA probably due to safety concerns.
There will be no EV's on the road in 10 years.
Yep guaranteed there will be a massive graveyard of EV's like in the irobot movie where all the old robots were taken to rust and fall apart!!
Put your phone down for 10 seconds hold the handle right up with your right hand and put the key in with your left hand simple !
I would not knowingly get in to a vehicle that didn't have a mechanical overide to open the door. It should be a legal requirement to have a mechanical overide in an emergency situation.
This is truly scary, to be locked in your car. Complete nightmare. I'm never going in one of them traps. Lee, you need to sue the manifacture, you could of died bcs of this stupid ev
Klaus says you’re not allowed to go to Leeds today. You were tracked eating too much meat in Spain and your carbon credits were all used up on your Ryanscare flight. 🤣
What makes me laugh is that when these noddy cars run out of electricity they send the AA with a diesel generator to charge it up. My car has one built in, its a diesel car and never runs out of electricity. Clown world.
What it does when you turn your engine off it stops generating didn't you know that?
I will NEVER buy an EV, period!
Great anti theft feature. I would sell that thing asap. Why do people buy these ill thought out things. Pick any badge, there's stupid faults with 'em all...
Imagine the car is on fire & you are trapped inside. They become mobile cremators.
We have a Chevy Tahoe, Range Rover,v that we bought new in 2018 and 2020, respectively.
my favorite 2009 GMC Pick-up with 187 000 miles. Zero problems! The Chevy has been reliable 15 MPG, but the Range Rover has been fashionably towed more than under self power.
I remember sitting in a Corvette in a showroom at least 20 years ago, maybe more, and the locks were electric and my first question was "what if I am in an accident and the battery or wiring is broken, how do I get out?". Electronic locks are galactically dumb, there should be a mechanical linkage to fall back on, just like for brakes. While we're at it electronic emergency brakes are dumb too, there should be a lever you can directly control.
What has happened to car designers? Do they still live in their mum's basements and play video games all day without ever experiencing the world the way it actually is? DO they get paid for this crap? Stuff breaks and needless points of failure are - needless.
You need to get your self a glass hammer in case of emergencies
Take the headrest off that will smash the glass
I wouldn't have a brand new ev even if it was offered to me for free I will stick to a diesel or petrol car
There should be a battery cut switch. On my petrol and diesel cars the only way I can leave for a few weeks is to disconnect the negative terminal on the battery as alarm systems drain out the 12v battery. In an EV you’d think they could rig them so that they use the main batteries as well.
This was a real eye opening event!!! There is no way in hell I would own an electric car ever after seeing you TRAPPED !!!!!! I was getting panicky for you !!!! I’ll take my gas powered Porsche thank you!! Good thing Sharon was home as well!!
I got locked in a car once, it was horrible, I had a panic attack and was just about to smash the window. I wouldn’t want that to happen again.
I had the same experience...😱
What a waste of £120,000!!
For saftey purposes the internal door lock levers ahould be mechanical only. What will it take for car EV manufactures to fix this deaths we presume.
They didn't put a mechanical linkage to the door lock because they wanted to save weight and cost. That's how stupid these automobile geniuses are. No common sense.
@alexvagias5295
It proves the mfrs don't give two shites about their customers.
Well of course they did, that's how he could open it with the key.
@@oldgit15 I'm talking from the inside. My last car (Oldsmobile) had electric door locks. When I wanted to get out, all I had to do was pull the handle-mechanical linkage.
I'm sorry to say this. But that is one big hunk of junk and I'm sure it is way overpriced
If your ever stuck in a ev somewhere in the wilds with no other person or help around or battery dead on phone , just use your head to break window.
There's a lesson here in not closing a door you couldn't open without a key from the outside ;) It shouldn't even be legal to make a car that you can't open the doors on from the inside though, why is that not physical? How does it pass a safety test? Is there a safety release that you just didn't know about?
You can open it from inside you pull the handle further back in this case and then it actually pulls the cable in the car.
Are you saying that he lied just for clicks ?@@djgoode
There was a story out today about a man who "got hijacked by his electric car" and had to call the police to ram him off the road!!!!
Yes I heard this as well. Apparently the brakes failed at 30mph and he couldn't switch the car off or stop. Lol I'll stick to garlic bread as the future 😊
Absolutely crazy! I have tried and failed to smash a car window from the outside of a car and couldn’t do it. From the inside for me, it would be impossible I’m sure particularly if you didn’t have anything in the car to assist! Glad you got out though 😅
Literally it's a death trap , the sensible thing would be a manual wind down window instead of everything being electric or at least have a way to open the doors from inside
Good day! I am glad you did not get hurt when you got locked in your car. It is a problem of having too much technology inside modern cars especially EV cars. Why do the door latches have to be electronic? Old fashioned mechanical car door latches work without issues and does not need a working battery to work.
For general advice.
Use the seatbelt buckle to break the door glass.
A friend of mine was in a Tesla crash and was burned to death. When the power goes out and the fire starts, you are carbon dust... No car should be allowed on the road that cannot be opened if the power fails. Basic stuff folks...
Name your 'friend' as never heard of this.. Plus the manual release is there RTFM
Have respect for the dead...@@richardbartlett6932
@@seaplaneguy1There's still a manual door release.
Ever since I first opened a Tesla door, about ten years ago, I have had this question in my mind. I immediately noticed that the handles, outside and inside was just a big electric button. In my scenarios I didn't think that it could be a problem in one's own driveway, but what about an accident? Submerged in a river etc?
Good to know, at least, that I was right 🤔 Still not a wise decision by the manufacturers!
A lot of tech geeks have no common sense. It's an observable pattern.
This is a clear example of over engineering a simple solution.
I think I stick too my 20 year old Rover 75.
This was hilarious!
Love Lee's terified eyes when things go wrong.......worth the admission fee on its own!
Seriously though, just imagine accidentally driving one of these into a river and the battery/electrics failing.
I'd keep a 20lbs sledge in the back!
Crazy stuff, i was actually getting nervous watching you stuck in this thing. It seems that if one was going to purchase an ev that one would have to do a lot of research just to know all the intricate details or problems that come with an ev that may arise.