What a ridiculous piece of tech.(all of these fanned flamethrowers) I can't imagine a usage scenario outside of pecker measuring contests. Perhaps lighting up half the grand canyon is important lol. Walking around in the outdoors with fans whining is going to either keep you from ever seeing a bear (good thing?) or never being able to hear a bear (bad thing!) lol.
Having taken apart an MS08 and RS50 it looks like the fans would be blowing about where the driver sits. I'm really concerned that this inherits the biggest problem from those two lights based on the design and construction. There's almost no heatsinking for the LEDs. In the MS08 and RS50 it was a small aluminum shelf that was only ~2mm thick.
I believe you are right. I will attempt to disassemble the light in the future now that my review is finished (don’t want to wreck the light prior to review).
Owned this one for a minute- Love the "warm" tint model color output- absolutely puts the old DX80 output to total shame as far as emitter color quality and also obviously QUANTITY, lol. I sold it after getting my feel of it, though. Extremely loud and tiny fans on a flashlight this small without much thought put into proper cooling materials/air channels, etc makes the cooling quite a gimmick and barely effective. The fans having intelligent thermal response would be nice- using the light in lower output modes and the fans only spinning as fast as necessary- if at all, would feel far more refined. A flashlight this expensive should be rocking the ever universal USB C PD charging rather than a wall-wart DC barrel charger. If you're going to claim IP water resistance, it might be a good idea to actually include a gasket on the charging port tail cap (mine did not include one at all.) I think the Acebeam X50 takes the cake against this little monster.
The X75 stays cool while running, due to advanced design and superior fan cooling. Even after a minute of turbo, the body and handle are very cool. The bezel is very hot, but with the silicon cap on, you’ll never notice. The MS12 mini gets so hot after just 30s that pressing the button for 3s to turn on the fans almost burns my finger. Then the fans have to run for 5-10 minutes to make the light cool again while off. The MK38 is between those two extremes. The fans aren’t very useful, but the light is more massive, and generates less heat on turbo. Sorry no hard numbers here, but these descriptions should help.
I would really like to compare the ms12 mini with the monster ms18 in the same place where you compared the ms12 mini with the mk38!?) And measure how many ms18 lumens will give out in the turbo!?)
The IMALENT should have come with a handle. I'm guessing running it even at MED it will get "too hot to hold" fast. Now if you are in HIGH mode.....however long you can be in HIGH before it steps down....having a handle would be a good thing no? :) The "hair dryer-like sound" of the fans--I think would be a non-issue outside. Probably wouldn't notice them unless you're focusing on the sound. Should be enough going on around you e.g. wind, people talking, maybe horses on some night ride or "search/rescue"....etc.... Are these lights actually useful? I mean if you're hiking or doing S&R (search and rescue) on foot you could do with a hand-held EDC light. If you're parat of maybe some Le agenciy looking for a fugitive...you'd be using air support...helicopter...using the helicopter's light. :) Don't know if these lights aren't just for "torch nerds" :)) "...I got a 50k lumens torch..na na NAAA11" :)
Thank you for another really interesting video! Do you knew which of the Ms12 and the Acebeam X75 who can sustain the heat longest? I mean in practical use, not in turbo mode all the time. I presume it will be the Acebeam by virtue of it's higher mass but then fan cooling efficiency was of corse also matter...
I think the Imalent MS12 is superior to the X75. It's smaller, significantly lighter, turbo lasts 50% longer for only 15000 lumens less, and it can sustain output at 13000 lumens vs 11000 for the X75, which is strange considering the X75 has a larger area to dissipate heat. The only places the X75 wins is overall runtime, marginally on throw, and also on high mode it sustains 23000lm for 7 minutes vs 25000lm for 3 minutes on the MS12. This is all on paper of course. I have the X45 v2 only, and I hate the UI on that Acebeam.
yes sir another awsome video man i wish i could afford one of these lol i just got in the mail the wurkkos TD01 and man i love the looks of it but i do wish it was 2200 lumens like they claim lol but owell
If you have IR Thermometer,can check which cooler is better,MS12,MK38 or X75.Can MS12 go under the water like X75?
X75 is by far cooler. The MS12 mini gets incredibly hot, incredibly fast. I don’t trust that the MS12 mini would handle being under water.
What a ridiculous piece of tech.(all of these fanned flamethrowers) I can't imagine a usage scenario outside of pecker measuring contests. Perhaps lighting up half the grand canyon is important lol. Walking around in the outdoors with fans whining is going to either keep you from ever seeing a bear (good thing?) or never being able to hear a bear (bad thing!) lol.
This light is definitely designed for the use case you brought up… measuring contests :)
I feel like MS12 Compact is a more descriptive name for this monster.
Touché!
What would have made this torch 🔦 just perfect 🤩 was if it was charged via usb C...... 😔
The SR32 has USB-C! Check out the review here: ruclips.net/video/VmM6aLGm0Ig/видео.html
pls, review sofirn and wurkkus flashlights''''''
I will look into it. They’re very good brands.
Having taken apart an MS08 and RS50 it looks like the fans would be blowing about where the driver sits. I'm really concerned that this inherits the biggest problem from those two lights based on the design and construction. There's almost no heatsinking for the LEDs. In the MS08 and RS50 it was a small aluminum shelf that was only ~2mm thick.
I believe you are right. I will attempt to disassemble the light in the future now that my review is finished (don’t want to wreck the light prior to review).
Owned this one for a minute- Love the "warm" tint model color output- absolutely puts the old DX80 output to total shame as far as emitter color quality and also obviously QUANTITY, lol.
I sold it after getting my feel of it, though. Extremely loud and tiny fans on a flashlight this small without much thought put into proper cooling materials/air channels, etc makes the cooling quite a gimmick and barely effective. The fans having intelligent thermal response would be nice- using the light in lower output modes and the fans only spinning as fast as necessary- if at all, would feel far more refined. A flashlight this expensive should be rocking the ever universal USB C PD charging rather than a wall-wart DC barrel charger. If you're going to claim IP water resistance, it might be a good idea to actually include a gasket on the charging port tail cap (mine did not include one at all.) I think the Acebeam X50 takes the cake against this little monster.
Great points you make! The X50 is a great light. I like it a lot. Have you seen the new X75?!? ruclips.net/video/nUA24xcMz1U/видео.html
Not having the fans ramp @temp is practically a gimmick in itself.
You are asking for faaaaaar to much of Imalent.
Dont buy this light
Money beast product
This light battrey issue fast drain one time turbo mode on after 10 min run light automatic stop
Man you are on fire! Keep the videos coming!
Thanks!
Could you test how long it takes to cool these lights (MS12, MK38, X75, etc) after 30 seconds or 1 minute of turbo?
The X75 stays cool while running, due to advanced design and superior fan cooling. Even after a minute of turbo, the body and handle are very cool. The bezel is very hot, but with the silicon cap on, you’ll never notice.
The MS12 mini gets so hot after just 30s that pressing the button for 3s to turn on the fans almost burns my finger. Then the fans have to run for 5-10 minutes to make the light cool again while off.
The MK38 is between those two extremes. The fans aren’t very useful, but the light is more massive, and generates less heat on turbo.
Sorry no hard numbers here, but these descriptions should help.
@@cheule Super helpful! If they're using the 12V XHP70s I know what light I'm getting next!
Why's no one reviewing the MS12-C? ((NOT MINI))
""THAT IS NOT A HANDLE BUT A GRIP""!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would really like to compare the ms12 mini with the monster ms18 in the same place where you compared the ms12 mini with the mk38!?) And measure how many ms18 lumens will give out in the turbo!?)
I have contacted Imalent, let’s see what they say!
Ok, thanks! Will wait!)
Please write if imalent will answer you about ms18.)
The IMALENT should have come with a handle. I'm guessing running it even at MED it will get "too hot to hold" fast. Now if you are in HIGH mode.....however long you can be in HIGH before it steps down....having a handle would be a good thing no? :)
The "hair dryer-like sound" of the fans--I think would be a non-issue outside. Probably wouldn't notice them unless you're focusing on the sound. Should be enough going on around you e.g. wind, people talking, maybe horses on some night ride or "search/rescue"....etc....
Are these lights actually useful? I mean if you're hiking or doing S&R (search and rescue) on foot you could do with a hand-held EDC light. If you're parat of maybe some Le agenciy looking for a fugitive...you'd be using air support...helicopter...using the helicopter's light. :) Don't know if these lights aren't just for "torch nerds" :)) "...I got a 50k lumens torch..na na NAAA11" :)
Of all the 40,000+ lm flooders I have, I have to say I grab it most frequently because of its compact size. So a handle might add bulk.
Neighbors probably surprised! Morning came early that day for them :D
Notice, I spent very little time with each light on!
@@cheule yeah, I figured that was you trying to be considerate of them :)) ty for the review and comparisons!
MK38, MS12...MK38, MS12...MK38,MS12...
Meanwhile pilots flying over you "Are we supposed to land where he's signaling?"
Haha!
My DX80 blew up (literally). Would you say this is a good upgrade? I want my flood!
I would take a look at the AceBeam X75. It has industry leading cooling, seriously advanced.
""ALUMINUM IS NOT METAL""!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What mic do you use? I need a new one. Currently walking around outside with my gaming headset lol
For this one, most of it was selfie camera mic with back camera video on an iPhone 13 Pro
Very Powerful!
why nobody talks about LUMINTOP TIGER ???
Ooo
Can you do a review on Klarus XT11GT Pro V2.0?
I will look into it!
I just looked up this light, it has SST-70. Might be a fun light to swap to XHP50.2!
@@cheule Thank you in advance, looking forward to see your review.
Thank you for another really interesting video! Do you knew which of the Ms12 and the Acebeam X75 who can sustain the heat longest? I mean in practical use, not in turbo mode all the time. I presume it will be the Acebeam by virtue of it's higher mass but then fan cooling efficiency was of corse also matter...
100% the X75. The X75 is better in every way, runtime, output, price, cooling…. Except size. It’s larger.
I think the Imalent MS12 is superior to the X75. It's smaller, significantly lighter, turbo lasts 50% longer for only 15000 lumens less, and it can sustain output at 13000 lumens vs 11000 for the X75, which is strange considering the X75 has a larger area to dissipate heat. The only places the X75 wins is overall runtime, marginally on throw, and also on high mode it sustains 23000lm for 7 minutes vs 25000lm for 3 minutes on the MS12. This is all on paper of course. I have the X45 v2 only, and I hate the UI on that Acebeam.
@@KenshinPhoenix yes sir I agree with u both great candles but I still like or think MS12 Is far superior with quality and smaller size ..
will there be a review on imalent mr 90?
Hello. Could you review the brightest flashlight imalent ms18 100000 lumens at the moment!?
I will contact Imalent and see if this is possible!
@@cheule Ok, thanks!
Please write if imalent will answer you about ms18.)
yes sir another awsome video man i wish i could afford one of these lol i just got in the mail the wurkkos TD01 and man i love the looks of it but i do wish it was 2200 lumens like they claim lol but owell
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I feel like you had more to say :)
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