I've been recording heavy metal vocals for about a decade now. A limiter is sometimes necessary depending on the room and what sounds treatment is available. Like he said, all you need is a tiny bit. If you're layering vocals, you definitely won't hear any difference.
Normalize vocals+ 3 DB, remove the hidden noise floor hiss with high pass filter, normalize back down -3 db, EQ, de- es with a low pass filter, pops with a high pass filter, Double compression, limiter. Recording engineer school-101
This is such an underrated tip, bro. If you're not putting a limiter on your vocal, there's often gonna be so many harsh consonants that get brought out by a compressor, but cannot be tamed with a deesser. My vocal does not sound right without a little limiting, so please dont knock it till you try it
Yes sir!! A dope 💎 for mixing vocals...everything sits nicely when you dont squash it, you can still give the vocal some heat without disturbing the overall mix..nice gem here
what saturator do u use? im using saturn 2 by fabfilter rn... im new to this but ive created my first impressively loud mix. but not deafening ofc. been mixing n shii for years tho, just not mastering
Hi Jerry , first of all i would like to say thank you for sharing your professional opinions and tips , i have some questions on other topics like sends and returns on effect buss like reverb , delay , using third party plugins and some mixing tips how you use sidechain compression between instruments , basses, drums and how you treat those routings and processing using third party plugins , how you use saturation on bus channels , transient shapers , where to use clipping and where limiting. Those topics are the most crucial that cause common problems for improving mixes.
I think a lot of beginners blindly follow tips and don’t learn the essence of a plugin. It’s important to know when and where to use it, depending on your own situation. Could be creative or just for control. The important thing is making a decision with initial intention of achieving a result.
Hey Jerry, love your videos man. Question though: You said its okay to add a limiter to the vocal at the beginning of the chain. Maybe i dont understand how the signal flows down the chain but i dont understand adding a ceiling to the vocal at the beginning, wouldn’t any further processing after that be distorted if anything is being added? Thanks
No you shouldn’t get any noticeable distortion. It will really help your compressors in the vocal chain if they don’t have all of these random peaks throwing them off. You don’t have to go crazy with the limiter either. Just a few db gain reduction on the loudest parts will go along way. You could also try something like the 1176 compressor at the beginning because it has a very fast attack that’s measured in microseconds as opposed to milliseconds when set to its fastest setting. Just experiment with it.
To contain peaks. Why have something peaking at -10 db when you could have it at -13 db, but sound the same? The more you contain your peaks on every track or bus, the more further you’ll be from the final limiter ceiling. Then you have more room to drive the signal up before it hits the limiter and thus you will have a more louder master. Hope this helps.
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bro just out here casually giving the worst mixing tips known to man 😂
Go watch grammy award-winning mix engineers open up their pro tools session and you’ll see limiters all over the place.
@@mixwithjerry ignore his comment bro, he's just a hater
I've been recording heavy metal vocals for about a decade now. A limiter is sometimes necessary depending on the room and what sounds treatment is available. Like he said, all you need is a tiny bit.
If you're layering vocals, you definitely won't hear any difference.
Normalize vocals+ 3 DB, remove the hidden noise floor hiss with high pass filter, normalize back down -3 db, EQ, de- es with a low pass filter, pops with a high pass filter, Double compression, limiter. Recording engineer school-101
This is such an underrated tip, bro. If you're not putting a limiter on your vocal, there's often gonna be so many harsh consonants that get brought out by a compressor, but cannot be tamed with a deesser. My vocal does not sound right without a little limiting, so please dont knock it till you try it
I love this guy and how he pins some random guy hating every video and there’s always a random guy hating 💀
I put a limiter at the end of almost everything except drums. Multiple stages of compression, clipping, and compression are the secret to a loud mix.
Yes sir!! A dope 💎 for mixing vocals...everything sits nicely when you dont squash it, you can still give the vocal some heat without disturbing the overall mix..nice gem here
Theo Von is making music now!?😮
Good tip bro 📝
I can only say thank you for giving me this missing piece of my puzzle
I put it before everything because peaks will effect the compressor
I prefer using a saturator and soft clipper. You can compress more, less distortion.
what saturator do u use? im using saturn 2 by fabfilter rn... im new to this but ive created my first impressively loud mix. but not deafening ofc. been mixing n shii for years tho, just not mastering
good advice thank you
I love this great advice ❗️
I do this for instruments and vocals 🔥🔥🔥
I do the same. I’ll use clipping for the kick and snare.
Hi Jerry , first of all i would like to say thank you for sharing your professional opinions and tips , i have some questions on other topics like sends and returns on effect buss like reverb , delay , using third party plugins and some mixing tips how you use sidechain compression between instruments , basses, drums and how you treat those routings and processing using third party plugins , how you use saturation on bus channels , transient shapers , where to use clipping and where limiting. Those topics are the most crucial that cause common problems for improving mixes.
I use one on most tracks even if its just 1db of peak control
Amazing bro
finally someone who says this
I’ve been conflicted about putting limiters on my vocals for the past year. currently getting past it because the benefits.
I think a lot of beginners blindly follow tips and don’t learn the essence of a plugin. It’s important to know when and where to use it, depending on your own situation. Could be creative or just for control. The important thing is making a decision with initial intention of achieving a result.
Hey Jerry, love your videos man. Question though:
You said its okay to add a limiter to the vocal at the beginning of the chain. Maybe i dont understand how the signal flows down the chain but i dont understand adding a ceiling to the vocal at the beginning, wouldn’t any further processing after that be distorted if anything is being added? Thanks
No you shouldn’t get any noticeable distortion. It will really help your compressors in the vocal chain if they don’t have all of these random peaks throwing them off. You don’t have to go crazy with the limiter either. Just a few db gain reduction on the loudest parts will go along way. You could also try something like the 1176 compressor at the beginning because it has a very fast attack that’s measured in microseconds as opposed to milliseconds when set to its fastest setting. Just experiment with it.
I put a limiter after every compressor I use on my vocal chain is that good?
why mono? is this the center vocal and then you’d use stereo limiters for the side harmonies/dubs etc.?
Looking at your mixing chain, do you EQ before and after compression?
Yeah I do reductive EQ before compressor and additive EQ afterwards.
@@mixwithjerryperfectly balanced, as all things should be
And how do we get the loudness of vocals again after putting limiter?
It’s supposed to be unnoticeable. Your only limiting the peaks so you don’t need to add loudness to the vocals after
Tiparraco?
What mic is that
Tlm103
What is that daw
FL Studio
Theo von?
The real question is do you make up gain even though is just kissing it and shaving off just the peaks
No, the peaks shouldn’t have an impact on perceived loudness and if it does then the limiter is getting hit too hard.
if i wont here much of a difference then why do it and waste cpu
To contain peaks. Why have something peaking at -10 db when you could have it at -13 db, but sound the same? The more you contain your peaks on every track or bus, the more further you’ll be from the final limiter ceiling. Then you have more room to drive the signal up before it hits the limiter and thus you will have a more louder master. Hope this helps.
If there’s almost no difference, why use it then?
More headroom
Sounds compressed
It is