I think so, too. I also wonder why Billy was buried so quick. Such a notorious “outlaw”, who had been on the run so long, you’d think they post him up in a coffin in town for bragging rights. His deputies even said, when flipping the body over, “you shot the wrong man”. I THINK there was another Billy in Billy Antrim’s group. I think that, failing several times to get Billy Antrim, Pat shot first and then buried the body quick and lied about which Billy it was..
My daughter lived out there on Dunn road. Not to far from that marker. I wanted to go find it, I never did. People say there’s always fresh Flowers out their ether real or plastic. He still has descendents in Dona Ana county. An old Rancher friend of mine over at Animas told me that his grandad had the livery in Organ in those days. He said that his Dad and 2 of his brothers were on their way back from Dona Ana with a load of hay , and came upon that murder. The body was covered , and lotsa people had showed up by then. My great grandad meant Garrett in 1898. My great grandad was only 14 working for freighters between Hope and Tularosa. He said Garrett and 2 deputies traveled with them for a day , then camped with them. He never believed Garrett killed the kid. He always thought that the Sante fe ring wanted and paid him too, because the kid was bringing national attention to their corruption. His death was faked, Garrett wrote a big BS story. And the kid died an old man in Prescott after living in Ramaha NM, his whole life. Well that was his story. Good vid , Brett. Keep that NM history coming.
Brett, I watched several of Steve,’s (sidetrack adventures) videos and researched stories. I think he does a great job, interesting history. You and your cameras, drones, gps’s etc add to your adventures and stores of the wests lore….Thanks again……👍🤠. I have over time collected some good old books of the west. Love the stuff.
Just recently stumbled upon your channel and I find you and your stories very interesting and entertaining. I am enjoying watching Bonnie's development and training. You have a unique stile that I find most interesting.
I enjoyed your videos Brett, as I am you know love the Old West history in Az, NM especially getting Ms Bonnie out on real ride especially to Pat Garrett site. Thanks -Kid Yuma
I was born February 29th 1964. I think Pat Garrett only allegedly killed Billy the kid. I think he killed somebody but I don't think he killed Billy the kid. I think there was another body put in Billy's place. Anyway I was born 56 years later to the day of Pat Garrett's murder. February 29th only comes every 4 years. I have a hell of a time at the BMV.
I grew up near that spot. MHS ‘74 In Organ NM behind the old Fishers Garage across the street what was Aces Bar is a cave said to have jailed Billy the Kid for fighting!
@@BrettVaughnB100 In the late 60s till 1974 when I left the state Fisher had a mechanic named Joe. Said he had a good job as a scientist at WSMR. Said he came in one day and couldn’t walk the next. He couldn’t walk he shuffled. Fisher said when he was sober he would shuffle across the four lane to Aces get tipsy and walk just as good as anybody! Fisher would laugh! Fisher could tell stories for hours. Dad also trade with Pobars Chevron during that time.
My Mother, God Bless Her, was originally from S.W. Missouri. In the family tree somewhere are the James Boys along with civil war vets and a " Regulator" from just after the civil war. He was hanged for his trouble.
That’s one place in that country I never actually stopped by and looked at. My father had old Polaroids of the site from the early 70’s…. Think I might just head there the next time I visit Las Cruces…I read the book about Colonel Fountain way back and I actually married a descendent of Oliver Lees… I didn’t know that until after we were married and then I gave her crap about it. I might ask some of the folks, if I ever see them again, what their oral history about their family that came from that mess of people you named in this video. I know one of those families descendants that owed my parents a huge sum of money from their charge account. I asked my mom about it way back and she told me that the man told them ( my dad and my mom) that he didn’t pay his wife’s bills… my mom finally burned the old box of unpaid charge accounts from many folks in that area… but that one family always had that stigma that hung over their heads with myself… some 55 years later
well son of a gun someday I may see ya around los cruises I know alot of that area south of T OR C and west of Hatch the chilies Capitol of America through the black range to the ARIZONA border.
Enjoyed that story . I never knew the Pat Garrett / Billy the Kid saga happend around Las Cruces area. I've seen several different old movies about them. That just got by me , glad to see you talk about it. Looked like Bonnie was wanting some more hay or something while you were talking . Kind of got a kick out of that ! 8 ) Funny , I watch another YT channel out of Las Cruces , you might even know the guy. His channel I called " Muddy Water Catfishing " Kris , Umm can't think of his last name. You wouldn't believe the big ole flathead catfish he catches out of the Rio Grande ! Well , thanks for showing us the grave site and the story !
I’m going to read your links. Western history fascinates me. I live in AZ and grew up in NE. I’m a prairie girl-Arizonan via Texas in between, so I have lived these places. How about some good Native Am stories with links and corresponding mule journeys to them???!!!😊
@@robertporch8320 no, I’m sorry. I don’t have a channel. I am a retired teacher enjoying my retirement! Try Desert Drifter and Trek Planner. They both have some really good vids I think you’d like!⛰️🌵🌲👍
It was probably a buckboard carriage, I don't think they have springs like a coach or a buggie would. so, yeah, it was bumpity bump on the rumpity rump, lol. Anyway, yes, I would love for you to dive deeper into the story of Garrett's demise, 'cause he was a rustler in the same gang and William Bonney, and he MURDERED him. I really want to spend an elongated visit to the Las Cruses, Alamogordo, Lincoln area. So much history, and beautiful country. Thanks so much for your videos.
Raised in Las Cruces and Alomogordo spent twelve yrs studing NM history never heard or read anything like this story and because of my dad I have seen things in NM that not very many people walking can or will see. My dad had a high
I used to have a book about the Earp boys, pat and a bunch of other players. Very interesting read with a ton of back stories on the hows whats and wheres.
I have kin in that part of NM. Cruised around saw some of the BtheK sites mostly by accident. Never heard that Garret was actually killed though until I likely saw the same video you did. Garret's life story lost fame-osity after he is said to have ambushed BK I figure.
Josh with The Wild West Extravaganza covers Pat’s murder well ruclips.net/video/oq3CWGonjZI/видео.htmlsi=1xTZKqcufstogkgp. He also covers a lot of Wild West Stories👍🏻
good stuff. I've been down to Las Cruces and El Paso several times but didn't know about that. Always felt like a lot happened around there back then, being so close to Mexico and Juarez.
It’s me again… I just remembered that my grandad told me about 30 years ago, that grandma Ikard was a Fountian. Her dad and brother were the Father and son you were talking about, that disappeared between Lincoln and Cruces. Grandpa would have made a hell of a u tube interview.
Very interesting for sure appreciate the ride enjoyed it, I reckon we will never know ,but one can definitely jump into that ol' rabbit hole and stay a while .
My aunt Ima was the postmaster and ran a cafe/general store in Hope in the early 70s and lived on the Teal ranch with uncle Bee for 60 years. I heard a lot of these stories growing up never thought much of Garrett due to these stories. The only thing I know is there is no hope for hope. Good story and very enjoyable. Thank You for sharing.
You tell the story just like I want to hear it! Love the dogs and your mule is so cool!!! scratches at the ground while starring you down😅 #75 LA Ram Decon Jones!!! I’d love too ride the desert on a mule with hunting dogs. I do live in the desert, Las Vegas, but I ride a Harley and have 2 small dogs 😅 Love the channel and content!!! Going to check out all the links and head down the rabbit hole with you!!! Very, very interesting 🤔
This is the very best impromptu tell it like it is old west history. Very interesting and informative. I agree with you. There is a whole lot more that went on back in that day. I also watch the Sidetrack Adventure guy. Lots of informative content. I think Pat Garret was a stinker in a range full of skunks.
Watched a pbs program out of Portales, New Mexico, where Pat Garrett son put a marker made out of cement at the spot where Pat Garrett was killed .also I found the store of Oliver Lee and cox trying to force people off there land to the point of forcing there way in a house and shooting at them and causing a woman at that house to lose her baby . I believe some one died at that house .
@BrettVaughnB100 I've never had a mule, but think she's beautiful! I grew up with horses, and still have a couple. Really enjoy your videos! Thank you.
Thank you... I have had a few complaints about my story telling .. but it was told just off the top of my head no notes .. it was kinda hard to edit lol Thanks to you and your husband!
Without the internet back then there was no way to know what was true. With all the history and it was all word of mouth. Who knows. Look like Bonnie was kind of spooked at that spot. God Bless
1st time watching this channel A big mule and a big strew hat a nice beaded hat band, Glad I stop in growing up in South Dakota old west stories and history go hand in hand. I have to ask who makes that wide strew hat. I love Colorado but the sun is no joke.
Awesome, first trip eh, I can relate to your last vid, I walked over 163 miles according to watch gps, behind young tree dog I was starting last year, having to keep up to watch and fix eh, and bonding. Coming up season I can just unsnap her with older dog and just stand and wait. These tree dogs different than hounds, better to work young dog seperate than put them right in with like your lion hounds.
I kinda think that Pat Garrett was a bully and a back shooter. That is what I think. Good stuff right here. Thanks for Sharing. 😊
And where have you derived the information that leads you to your opinion of Pat Garrett?
I think so, too. I also wonder why Billy was buried so quick. Such a notorious “outlaw”, who had been on the run so long, you’d think they post him up in a coffin in town for bragging rights. His deputies even said, when flipping the body over, “you shot the wrong man”. I THINK there was another Billy in Billy Antrim’s group. I think that, failing several times to get Billy Antrim, Pat shot first and then buried the body quick and lied about which Billy it was..
If you haven't already done so, look into whether pat Garrett really killed Billy the kid. Talk about rabbit holes! Like you, I find it interesting.
There is no doubt that Garrett killed the kid on the night of July 14th 1881. No doubt at all. plenty of witnesses and evidence.
Hounds and mules.. best channel on RUclips
Thanks !
wouldn't disagree with that statement.
Agreed
What happened to the dun mule that you bought with Bonnie ?
@@steveperry8678 I have him ... about to start working him but I think he is pretty laid back and gentle ..
Smart mule! She wasn't pawing because she was bored. She was pawing trying to move that little bit of hay closer to eat!
I really enjoy listening to you tell stories and seeing you're passion. Keep em coming.
My daughter lived out there on Dunn road. Not to far from that marker. I wanted to go find it, I never did. People say there’s always fresh Flowers out their ether real or plastic. He still has descendents in Dona Ana county. An old Rancher friend of mine over at Animas told me that his grandad had the livery in Organ in those days. He said that his Dad and 2 of his brothers were on their way back from Dona Ana with a load of hay , and came upon that murder. The body was covered , and lotsa people had showed up by then. My great grandad meant Garrett in 1898. My great grandad was only 14 working for freighters between Hope and Tularosa. He said Garrett and 2 deputies traveled with them for a day , then camped with them. He never believed Garrett killed the kid. He always thought that the Sante fe ring wanted and paid him too, because the kid was bringing national attention to their corruption. His death was faked, Garrett wrote a big BS story. And the kid died an old man in Prescott after living in Ramaha NM, his whole life. Well that was his story. Good vid , Brett. Keep that NM history coming.
You have any names that Billy the kid use in Prescott.. I live in Phoenix and love Billy stories. He was around Mt . Graham area when he was a kid
@@robertporch8320 no just what my great grandad told my grandad. Who knows. I do know a lot of old time NM people believed that.
Glad you shared this. Enjoyed it. Thanks
Brett, I watched several of Steve,’s (sidetrack adventures) videos and researched stories. I think he does a great job, interesting history. You and your cameras, drones, gps’s etc add to your adventures and stores of the wests lore….Thanks again……👍🤠. I have over time collected some good old books of the west. Love the stuff.
Thanks for the story & the guitar tune was cool!!
Just recently stumbled upon your channel and I find you and your stories very interesting and entertaining. I am enjoying watching Bonnie's development and training. You have a unique stile that I find most interesting.
Awesome, thank you! .. I'm just me
Your forgetting her hay that what's she wants she trying to tell you
Exactly! She will get him "trained" yet!
I enjoyed your videos Brett, as I am you know love the Old West history in Az, NM especially getting Ms Bonnie out on real ride especially to Pat Garrett site. Thanks -Kid Yuma
Great showing Brett!
Have you seen the young couple on MTN Built riding and training their young mules?
Love these kind of stories you need to tell more
I trust your rabbit hole knowhal . Peaceman. Ride,,On...
I was born February 29th 1964. I think Pat Garrett only allegedly killed Billy the kid. I think he killed somebody but I don't think he killed Billy the kid. I think there was another body put in Billy's place. Anyway I was born 56 years later to the day of Pat Garrett's murder. February 29th only comes every 4 years. I have a hell of a time at the BMV.
I grew up near that spot. MHS ‘74 In Organ NM behind the old Fishers Garage across the street what was Aces Bar is a cave said to have jailed Billy the Kid for fighting!
I remember Aces bar .. long time ago thanks
@@BrettVaughnB100 In the late 60s till 1974 when I left the state Fisher had a mechanic named Joe. Said he had a good job as a scientist at WSMR. Said he came in one day and couldn’t walk the next. He couldn’t walk he shuffled. Fisher said when he was sober he would shuffle across the four lane to Aces get tipsy and walk just as good as anybody! Fisher would laugh! Fisher could tell stories for hours. Dad also trade with Pobars Chevron during that time.
The Garrett homestead site is located at: 32 deg 29’ 10.4” N, 106 deg 31’ 32.7”W. This is on White Sands Missile Range.
My Mother, God Bless Her, was originally from S.W. Missouri. In the family tree somewhere are the James Boys along with civil war vets and a " Regulator" from just after the civil war. He was hanged for his trouble.
That’s one place in that country I never actually stopped by and looked at. My father had old Polaroids of the site from the early 70’s…. Think I might just head there the next time I visit Las Cruces…I read the book about Colonel Fountain way back and I actually married a descendent of Oliver Lees… I didn’t know that until after we were married and then I gave her crap about it. I might ask some of the folks, if I ever see them again, what their oral history about their family that came from that mess of people you named in this video. I know one of those families descendants that owed my parents a huge sum of money from their charge account. I asked my mom about it way back and she told me that the man told them ( my dad and my mom) that he didn’t pay his wife’s bills… my mom finally burned the old box of unpaid charge accounts from many folks in that area… but that one family always had that stigma that hung over their heads with myself… some 55 years later
well son of a gun someday I may see ya around los cruises I know alot of that area south of T OR C and west of Hatch the chilies Capitol of America through the black range to the ARIZONA border.
Enjoyed that story . I never knew the Pat Garrett / Billy the Kid saga happend around Las Cruces area. I've seen several different old movies about them. That just got by me , glad to see you talk about it. Looked like Bonnie was wanting some more hay or something while you were talking . Kind of got a kick out of that ! 8 ) Funny , I watch another YT channel out of Las Cruces , you might even know the guy. His channel I called " Muddy Water Catfishing " Kris , Umm can't think of his last name. You wouldn't believe the big ole flathead catfish he catches out of the Rio Grande ! Well , thanks for showing us the grave site and the story !
I’m going to read your links. Western history fascinates me. I live in AZ and grew up in NE. I’m a prairie girl-Arizonan via Texas in between, so I have lived these places. How about some good Native Am stories with links and corresponding mule journeys to them???!!!😊
Let me know if you have a channel I am an AZ native from Phoenix love the history and stories.. Thanks
@@robertporch8320 no, I’m sorry. I don’t have a channel. I am a retired teacher enjoying my retirement! Try Desert Drifter and Trek Planner. They both have some really good vids I think you’d like!⛰️🌵🌲👍
It was probably a buckboard carriage, I don't think they have springs like a coach or a buggie would. so, yeah, it was bumpity bump on the rumpity rump, lol. Anyway, yes, I would love for you to dive deeper into the story of Garrett's demise, 'cause he was a rustler in the same gang and William Bonney, and he MURDERED him. I really want to spend an elongated visit to the Las Cruses, Alamogordo, Lincoln area. So much history, and beautiful country. Thanks so much for your videos.
" keep the change Bob"
Kris and James went well together.
sounds like how dc tuns and the 3 letter agency's fb* ci* do*
Pretty cool to live in the general area where all this history happened, along with the native history.🐴🇺🇸🎯🐕
I really love Bonnie! She loves you! I see a long happy relationship!
That mule wants some hay.
my sister is married to a fountain and they have or had relatives out of Carlsbad nm cool huh
Raised in Las Cruces and Alomogordo spent twelve yrs studing NM history never heard or read anything like this story and because of my dad I have seen things in NM that not very many people walking can or will see. My dad had a high
Wonder why?
Great video, thanks!!
Interesting story....
Another old mule skinner here in Utah.
Thanks .. like to see the old guys on here especially if they ride mules
Bonnie sure is a good looking gal.
I used to have a book about the Earp boys, pat and a bunch of other players. Very interesting read with a ton of back stories on the hows whats and wheres.
I live on earp rd. Named after Wyatt.
Buck wagon?
Buck buggy?
Had to be a rough ride.
Had to be terrible ... when I was out there I was thinking that also ... Thanks
Great story. Thanks for taking us for a ride. This is one place I’d like to go see with many other sights someday
Really pretty easy to get to .. Thanks
They had 1600 goats in that dirty ol country!
I bet the lions liked that .. right on the other side of the Organs
do you know any more adventure channels like yours that you like
Here you go they ride mules too … youtube.com/@mtn_built?si=5fCinpWtFU9PswVz
I have kin in that part of NM. Cruised around saw some of the BtheK sites mostly by accident. Never heard that Garret was actually killed though until I likely saw the same video you did. Garret's life story lost fame-osity after he is said to have ambushed BK I figure.
Oh boy that was a rabbit hole...great historical experience....You live around some really interesting places....
Thank You, my friend. I say friend because watching your videos is like visiting with a lifelong friend. Safe Travels.
Josh with The Wild West Extravaganza covers Pat’s murder well ruclips.net/video/oq3CWGonjZI/видео.htmlsi=1xTZKqcufstogkgp. He also covers a lot of Wild West Stories👍🏻
That is one of the links I put in the description .. Thanks
@@BrettVaughnB100 I guess it pays to read the description lol👍🏻
@@rockhunter6260 lol no thats ok its a good listen thanks
Buck Board.
good stuff. I've been down to Las Cruces and El Paso several times but didn't know about that. Always felt like a lot happened around there back then, being so close to Mexico and Juarez.
Thanks 🦅
Ride on 🦅
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It’s me again… I just remembered that my grandad told me about 30 years ago, that grandma Ikard was a Fountian. Her dad and brother were the Father and son you were talking about, that disappeared between Lincoln and Cruces. Grandpa would have made a hell of a u tube interview.
Very interesting for sure appreciate the ride enjoyed it, I reckon we will never know ,but one can definitely jump into that ol' rabbit hole and stay a while .
Mule wants hay, and is probably wondering about this man who talks like their is somebody there, but there’s nobody there!🤔😂
Great stories about working animals plus wilderness scenic travel log. it's all good.
My aunt Ima was the postmaster and ran a cafe/general store in Hope in the early 70s and lived on the Teal ranch with uncle Bee for 60 years. I heard a lot of these stories growing up never thought much of Garrett due to these stories. The only thing I know is there is no hope for hope. Good story and very enjoyable. Thank You for sharing.
Iv always heard that Garrett was taking a leak .
That is what one story says .. thanks
Very interesting 👌
Thank you
you were in mile from my home. sorry we missed you
Me too .. Thanks
My favorite channel
Thank you !!
Funny how her ears bob around
She does get them going lol Thanks
Garretts sons took care of Brazel after a wee while ,.just As soon as they were old enough.
Bout 9 hours late with the #953 👍. I do enjoy your Side Job! 😁
You tell the story just like I want to hear it! Love the dogs and your mule is so cool!!! scratches at the ground while starring you down😅
#75 LA Ram Decon Jones!!!
I’d love too ride the desert on a mule with hunting dogs. I do live in the desert, Las Vegas, but I ride a Harley and have 2 small dogs 😅
Love the channel and content!!!
Going to check out all the links and head down the rabbit hole with you!!!
Very, very interesting 🤔
lol thanks .. unscripted and kinda scattered but heck that is who I am .. Thanks oh and I remember Deacon Jones he was bad dude Defensive End ...
I think Bonny is thirsty.
No not on that trip .. we didn't go very far
Bonnie was doing everything she could to get you to give her some more hay!
Thanks, I was in the area in Feb and wanted to go find it but I didnt know the nighborhood, Ill go back one day. Good video!
Thanks .. pretty easy to find really .. there is a high school you can park and walk from ..
And all this time I thought that monument on the side of the highway was the location.
There is amost always more to the storie. Thanks sir, very intresting.
This is the very best impromptu tell it like it is old west history. Very interesting and informative. I agree with you. There is a whole lot more that went on back in that day. I also watch the Sidetrack Adventure guy. Lots of informative content. I think Pat Garret was a stinker in a range full of skunks.
I think your right .. and Sidetrack has some great stuff .. Thanks
You look like Dan Hagerty of Grizzly Adams. Are you related?
No sorry .. but thank you I think lol
Watched a pbs program out of Portales, New Mexico, where Pat Garrett son put a marker made out of cement at the spot where Pat Garrett was killed .also I found the store of Oliver Lee and cox trying to force people off there land to the point of forcing there way in a house and shooting at them and causing a woman at that house to lose her baby . I believe some one died at that house .
It was some rough times back then .. Thanks
B. A. Bonnie is just getting more gorgeous!
She is .. we are still working out some issues but nothing major .. Thanks
@BrettVaughnB100 I've never had a mule, but think she's beautiful! I grew up with horses, and still have a couple. Really enjoy your videos! Thank you.
Thanks!
Thank you!!!!
Yep history is great, interesting names you brought up in that country, Cox in particular.
I think they still have a ranch over there on the East side of the Organs ?
Thank You for such a great tale! My husband and I really enjoyed this!
Thank you... I have had a few complaints about my story telling .. but it was told just off the top of my head no notes .. it was kinda hard to edit lol Thanks to you and your husband!
Bonnies cool cat, her right ear has swag
I think Bonnie is a beautiful mule !!
I think Bonnie really enjoyed the view when you were up higher. She might love the mountains.
I hope so! going to have to go to some cooler places Thanks
Looks like Bonny moves out, really well. Does she have a running walk?
Pretty close ... she can cover the country .. Thanks
Billy Bush Robert killed Pat Garrett.
MIght be a little confused?
@BrettVaughnB100
No, just a little joke.
@@terryderush2657 lol ok I do get it but you never know here on the internet lol Thanks
@BrettVaughnB100
I just figured the more comments, the more it helps you out. To me, a little humor 🤣 😆 😄 is kinda what the world 🌎 needs right now.
Without the internet back then there was no way to know what was true.
With all the history and it was all word of mouth. Who knows.
Look like Bonnie was kind of spooked at that spot.
God Bless
Yes .. Bonnie gets impatient .. she though we should just move along lol Thanks
You live in Cruces? This is one of my favorite YT channels ! maybe ill see you at La Posta some time ! haha
Yes North of Cruces .. or at Andeles lol Thanks
Great video love the stories. Thanks
Good story. Even aliens were listening Be careful when taking a leak
lol no kidding .. Thanks
It seems Bonnie is becoming quite found of you. love the channel!
Thank you .. yes we are starting to get along well
Pat Garrett’s daughter wrote the NM state song.
Garrett was a coward, I agree.
I did hear that .. Thanks
Love your videos but you're rambling allot in this one ! LOL. I almost had to hire a tracker to follow you on this one ! LOL
1st time watching this channel A big mule and a big strew hat a nice beaded hat band, Glad I stop in growing up in South Dakota old west stories and history go hand in hand. I have to ask who makes that wide strew hat. I love Colorado but the sun is no joke.
Glad you stopped in thanks ... Sunbody hats .. you can get them on Amazon here: amzn.to/45hZJ1C
Many thanks for the hat link.
I have subscribed, boots on the ground investigation. That’s the style I like.
Great story
Interesting.
What would you do if the kid killed two of your employees?
I guess so .. different time I guess .. but hiding in the shadows .. oh well thanks
Very interesting!!
Thanks
Good looking Mule Gonna be a good working Bonnie Girl
She is getting to be pretty nice .. Thanks
Get Bonnie some hay pretty mule.
She had already ate .. hay and some oats .. I guess she just wanted more .. Thanks
Great video enjoy your stores God bless.
Thank you! God bless you too!
The Wild West really was.
It was ... Thanks
Good story Brett..
Thank you !
Dry gulched
Thats kinda what I believe .. Thanks
Wow 😳 wow 😲 wow 😳🥰
Thanks Linda !
history is fun
I know lots of it in this area too ... Thanks
Awesome, first trip eh, I can relate to your last vid, I walked over 163 miles according to watch gps, behind young tree dog I was starting last year, having to keep up to watch and fix eh, and bonding. Coming up season I can just unsnap her with older dog and just stand and wait. These tree dogs different than hounds, better to work young dog seperate than put them right in with like your lion hounds.