VeggieTales Is Officially RUINED (they FIRED the voices of Bob and Larry)
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2022
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Well folks, the voices of Bob and Larry were fired and I now have very little hope for the future of VeggieTales...
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I guess I was wrong. What do you all think? Is VeggieTales beyond salvation after firing Phil and Mike?
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@Sabersраrk 🅥 really dude a fatherless joke -_-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! No. Nothing can ever salvage this burning pile of garbage that ruined a good chunk of my childhood.
I would think so. It never ends well for any creative work when the original creator is fired or dismissed.
Imagine firing the people who MADE the show. Absolutely ridiculous
They did it with Chris Savino, but he is a different story.
No comment
And John K but that also is a very different story.
Happened to the creators of Disco Elysium
@@AnimationNation2004 I was gonna comment about that
I think VeggieTales, the old version, is one of the only reglious cartoons I actually enjoyed as a child growing up.
I agee, I loved Josh and the big wall, which is of course about Joshua and the fall of Jericho. Plus great songs :3
What is it about Video Games, Anime, and Christianity that makes them near-impossible to make quality adaptations to?
That and the animated Bible stories were what I enjoyed as a kid before going atheist. I still hold sentimental value towards them.
@@HoodedSpidey... Here is what makes it near impossible. They have the same problem as propaganda cartoons. They're made with just the message, rather than the soul or heart put into something. So it pushes away people who disagree with it, but if it was quality cartoons, than it would actually lead to some people being accepting of it or not irritated.
“But when the children of Christ unit their eight power braces, they become the all powerful Apple Butter man!”
As a Christian, I grew up with VeggieTales. We watched it at church, school, and home and I never got tired of it. That show was really something else. I'm so sorry to hear what happened to its founding fathers :( RIP Bob, Larry, and company
It's terrible, read a novel, any novel.
@@lachesisazzie2515 *opens Bible* ;)
@@junco88 *Replaces Bible with the Tanakh*
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@@lachesisazzie2515 not as terrible as your arm pits
@@MasterLPG no thanks 🙏
I'm a Christian born and raised. I don't go to church much these days, but I still hold my belief. Some of my fondest memories were going to church events as a kid. Veggie tales was a very high point for me. Always loved it and the early part of the show (the ones I saw as a kid) aged like fine wine. I wish more Christian media was like this.
@@cap5856 My and my family have already been discussing doing just that!
I read this comment to the tune of the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air...
@@AwesomeThings74 I can see it with the first set of lines lol
It really sucks that most Christian children's media does fall under that kind of umbrella, I never got to watch Veggietales growing up but always heard the jokes even from people I didn't think we're Christian, and now look back at the episodes and memes and giggle. I did grow up on The Beginners Bible(?) series which isn't bad but doesn't have the humor (at least not intentionally, more than a few times me and my sister paused and rewound to giggle at poor/sloppy animation errors), right nowy youngest siblings mainly watch a show called Sueorbook, which seems to be trying to do what they did in a very PBS Kids sort of way. it's technically not too preachy, but not interesting as much. or maybe it's just bc I'm an adult now, I'm not sure. Sometimes the kids on it just annoy me though, sigh. It gets the point across at least.
And I'm in the same spot, although after a few years my parents seem to be considering a church nearby that while it's baptist and we're non-denominational and not fond of many baptist added rules they seem like a nice and good place, so sometimes branching out can help. i hope and pray you find the church for you, it gets lonely without that fellowship!! 💜
@@cap5856 “if they’re not kind they’re not Christian”
Ever been to the Bible Belt? I lived there for a short time, and they were nice.. until they realized we were not Christian. And I will never forget how my family and I were harassed once they realized. They are absolutely Christians, they just also suck as people. Being Christian doesn’t equal being moral
I am the farthest thing from religious but I think even I watched Veggietales when i was a kid. It was a good show and it saddens me deeply to see it go down this way.
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@You must know bot boi
Man veggie tails where the only show I would watch I loved it sad to see it go…
@im sacred Bruh yet another bot.
same!
I always admired the guts and creativity of whoever made the decision to adapt the story of David and Bathsheba for kids.
“So instead of concubines and wives, we use rubber duckies!”
The original show was ahead of its time
Ah yes,Rubberduckies.😏
Those were /yesterday's/ duckies. 🙄
And with the Esther episode it was like "So instead of King Xerxes calling on his queen to come and 'show off her goods' to all his buddies at some party, we'll have him call on the queen to make him a sandwich at 3 in the morning!"
@@GracefullyAutistic It’s crazy how it still gets the point across. Xerxes was a sexist, erratic pig who tried to demean his wife, and she wasn’t having any of it!
And The Island of Eternal Tickling.
Okay but I think you really nailed why exactly the show was so accessible even to secular audiences. A lot of specifically Christian media and shows were about trying to teach kids how to be a good *Christian,* while Veggietales specifically talked about trying to be a good *person.* Like obviously it took stories and verses from the bible, but oftentimes the takeaway was about teaching kids to be kind and honest and brave, with the biblical elements more just as the medium to convey those morals. And obviously the fun writing and songs definitely helped! Another really important thing I think is that the idea of God is one that was treated as all-loving. Obviously there was some 'doing bad things makes God upset' but the outtro for the older episodes was always 'Remember, God made you special, and he loves you very much.' The overall theme being less 'be good or God will smite you for eternity for your sins' and more 'we should be kind and help each other' and I think that's a lot of what makes even the older episodes hold up pretty well.
I see you never saw "Easter Carol".
I'm atheist from a atheist family of a few generations and my kids watched it. When one of them complained about "Remember God loves you" I told her not to be rude and that some people have faith in a deity and that's their choice. I also explained that even if she doesn't believe in the religion the message is still good to learn.
Veggietales was religious in the best way, it was all the good of Christianity and was valuable in showing my kids that the screaming, frothing at the mouth, you'll burn in hell variant of Christianity is not the ONLY kind.
@@ChallengeIdeas Yeah, fair point, that one was a pretty anvilicious, but at least it wasn't a recurring theme across the whole series
This is true (though I’ve never seen a Christian children’s show say God will smite you if you’re bad lol)
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@@afoolishfopdoodle3284 This didn't age well.
How do you fire the creators and lead voices?? That’s some nonsense!
Don't forget they also created the dang show!
@Sabersраrk 🅥 get lost impostor!
They pretty much swiped the rights away and kicked them out
@Sabersраrk 🅥 you do realize that the "V" in your name looks nothing like a verified symbol
Happens to other important Voice Actors as well. VA of Mob and Bayonetta aren't getting paid enough and treated like crap. They didn't reprise their roles bc of that.
Its terrible that a company that started off as an innocent counter to souless franchises got officially turned into one by being on the receiving end of so many middle fingers.
Kinda ironic
For real lots of Christian films and media suck ASS.
VeggieTales actually made things fun and interesting by visualising lots of Bible stories (not to mention kid friendly) and didn't randomly reference Jesus every other sentence for no reason.
Like Activision
You either end the show on the high note, or live long enough to become a soulless cash grab.
Same thing applies to Rooster Teeth, minus the innocent aspect. They were more or less college-early 30s gamer humor with game footage as the medium. but over the past 10 years or so, they've slowly become more and more corporate sellouts. Like the joke from Wayne's World, but sadly not a joke.
My mother absolutely adored Veggie Tales. She passed away in early 2016. She had tons of merch and every single special on tapes and DVD, we watched them all the time! I vaguely remember her being very upset about the reboot/redesigns. I'm kinda glad she didn't see the franchise go out the way it did, it definitely would have broken her heart. I still have her Bob and Larry Christmas ornaments that I hang up high on the tree every year ❤
I'm very sorry for your loss. May your mother rest in peace
Your mother seems like she was amazing. She's gotta be in a much better place now. ❤️
:(
May you mom Rest In Peace,Amen.
Your mom seemed like an awesome person. ❤️
This is like when the creator of SpongeBob walked away from the show post first movie, and we all know how badly the show devolved after that
although Hillenberg left, modern Spongebob has gotten somewhat better
@@Noahs-Workshop it just took a long time for it to turn around XD
AAA IT'S YOU- I used to watch your Undertale animations ;;
@@xxTC-96xx bruh have you actually oh I don’t know watched a new episode?
@@dumdumsponge6568 I wouldn't have said this if I hadn't seen the current state of spongebob, like them hiring a ren and stimpy adult party cartoon writer to write for it in some of their worst seasons
My dad is Kurt Heinecke, the musical director of Veggietales, and it’s been so interesting to grow up with everything progressing around me and being able to see it laid out in your VT vids. I remember the disappointment in everyone when Dreamworks bought out Big Idea and decided to make a lot of changes, including giving the boot to much of the production staff including my dad. I remember everyone being so excited when TBN licensed the series to make The Veggietales show and it was incredibly fun to see my dad working on VT again with the old team. I wished that that could’ve been the way that VT went out; it’s so sad to see Dreamworks try to squeeze everything out of VT that they can and it’s especially depressing now that they’ve given the boot to Phil and Mike. Mike’s been working on The Dead Sea Squirrels and my dad’s been doing the music for it and the first handful of episodes are completed and they’re just trying to figure out distribution. I got to see the first 3 episodes at a private screening and it’s really good. I was worried that the comedy and whatnot would be too kiddie but I found myself laughing a lot despite me being 22; in many ways it scratches the VT itch so I like to view it as a spiritual successor to VT. Love your vids and was so happy to see you covering the history of Veggietales and treat it with the upmost respect and love that it deserves, God bless!
That’s encouraging to hear, I’ve felt kind of starved for quality entertainment lately so I’m looking forward to The Dead Sea Squirrels, I definitely want to check that out!
I'm a big fan of the songs your dad wrote or arranged/produced over the years. I even transcribed one of them with Musescore!
@@dogman15 yeahh!!
That's so cool, good for you!
Woah, I gotta see that show when it comes out!!! 😲
Mike Nawrocki was one of my professors- he taught our class how to voice act. I feel so bad for him and Phil. In our hearts, the show will forever be their baby and their baby alone.
I’m a very devout Christian, and hearing this about VeggieTales just breaks my heart- Larry is still the most iconic character in all of media for me and seeing what they’ve done makes me want to cry
God made us all special, and He loves us very much 😢
Veggie Tales was screwed when Big Idea died, but Phil and Mike have to be commended for their efforts. They held on for as long as humanly possible, and they get to leave with their integrity intact. I wish them luck on their future projects.
I can’t believe a good show like this is ruined. I also can’t believe the creators were fired! This is the saddest day ever for VeggieTales fans!
@Sabersраrk 🅥 E indeed :)
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*were fired
i love to see a bunch of bots everywhere i go in youtube :/
I was one of those atheist families to the point my dad would make fun of churches we passed, and this show was constantly on in our household. So much so that we even went to the Christian bookstore only for veggie tales stuff. And saw the big movie in theaters. This sucks to hear!! I really hope they can move on to better stuff 😢
Jesus loves you!
@@theclown7840 that is true
@@theclown7840Jesus doesn't exist.
@@theenderdestruction2362*It's a belief
@@Espartanica hey buddy who the hell pissed you enough to want to this???
I really appreciate your love for VeggieTales, even if you're not religious because for a lot of us it was a core memory. I grew up religious and still am, but that "God made you special, and He loves you very much" unexpectedly came back to memory in very dark places. It's so sad to see what's happened to something I have a special place in my heart for. Here's hoping they're able to create something else just as good.
VeggieTales is now on a downward spiral. Phil and Mike always carried the show in their backs no matter what.
Yeah and yk they put a lot of effort into it, but sadly people want something newer, which includes new directors, va's, etc (also sorry your comment got raided by bots)
The corporation had to be a bunch of hee-ho's
Dude its been on a downward spiral since the reboot
@@graycrest806 thats the insult ever
It is indeed
The humor of Veggie Tales is what will always stick with me. A lot of the jokes and gags, especially later on were quite clever and make me laugh to this day. They're littered with pop culture references and even inside jokes for Big Idea themselves. They weren't afraid to make entertainment entertaining.
Really original comment.
A WESTERN BAHB
With their Prince of Egypt story where Pa was talking about the luxuries they had as slaves before being told "We were enslaved!", and his response being "nothing is poifect" was hilarious
@im sacred oh piss off bot
For real, there are jokes I didn't get as a kid but do as an adult, specifically the Christmas Silly Song when Larry let in a Bank robber and a Viking into his home when they came to rob him, but slammed the door in the face of the IRS agent. That's absolute gold there.
The reason why I was so mad about the firing of Mike and Phill was not that they were just fired, but that they were fired without them even knowing. That I think is what sucks the most out of it all.
I think one of the main reasons that Veggietales is more memorable and successful than pretty much any other Christian educational show is because the characters actually have, well, character. Bob and Larry alone make a great comic duo, and have their own distinct personalities that play off each other really well. They laugh, they cry, they get scared, they get angry, they even pull pranks and crack jokes at other characters' expense. They show the whole emotional spectrum.
Other Christian shows, in comparison, are so sterilized of anything that might even remotely disrespect the Bible or its teachings that they end up overly soft and saccharine, and are little more than Bible audiobooks with visuals.
*Moment of silence for all the memories we had with the two...*
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We were why they did what they did.
Let's be honest here, ever since the bankruptcy, reboot and redesigns, Bob and Larry have been zombified husks of themselves. Something like this was bound to happen any time now. VeggieTales was a big part of my childhood. I remember dressing up as Larry for Halloween, and being in many Christian schools my whole life, watching the iconic episodes many people came to know and love. Being older now, I've become kind of an animation and entertainment nerd, so seeing a show so dear to me and many other people I'm close to is sad. RIP VeggieTales, you will be missed...
So you dressed up as a cucumber?
Veggietales has now joined the fate of one of it's inspirations: The Muppets.
I couldn’t agree more. While there might be some hope, if the voice actors start to actually sound like the characters and have better writers I think it is better that Veggietales should have been left alone or given back to Phil and Mike. We will always remember what made Veggietales so special no matter how bad things get. I think they were right when the theme song sings, “There’s never ever been a show like Veggietales.”
you turned yourself into a pickle
Why will it be missed? All of the good content they made is still there for you to see anytime you want.
VeggieTales was a show that despite all the odds, managed to not only be good but like be...kind of perfect in its own little way. For starting out with such a small crew in a time when the idea of a fully computer animated show was completely unheard of and seemed destined to fail...like as far as my childhood was concerned and I know for many others as well, this was up there with SpongeBob as some of the best content out there for kids. And like not even kidding, classic VeggieTales still holds up. I still love it. It's not like I'm watching it all the time or anything but when I do it just brings such joy, I'm not even talking nostalgia, yes it's very nostalgic (of course it is) but like I can still see the quality even if I had never seen it until now. Saberspark, your channel has always been so interesting to me...like I can't think of another non-christian channel that talks so much about Christian media. It makes a lot of sense knowing you grew up believing in God. I think that maybe there's still a part of you that wants to believe in God again. I'm praying that you do.
There's little to do but make fun of them. They don't disbelieve in God for any reason other than humans suck and they have chips on their shoulders.
The title literally made me say "NO, WHAT?!" out loud. How do you fire the voice actors who have been doing this show for years?? Unbelievable
I am a 16 year old fan of Veggietales. It is a big part of my childhood. It got me into wanting to do voice acting, which now I have the pleasure of being Mr Lunt and Phillipe in a VeggieTales Fandub group. It's so sad to see these great voice actors and creators of something that I hold very dear to my heart be thrown away like they were nothing.
It's nice to see loyal fans doing a great work in favor of what they love
Wtf you’re not the real Saberspark.
Where’s this fandub group?
That’s super cool! I’d really love to see some of your fandub work!!
@@JohnDoe-hr4cf At the moment our director is doing some Sonic Fandubs, but when they're done with that we will be going onto other projects including Veggietales.
VeggieTales is straight up not VeggieTales without the original creators. They were both the star voices *and* the creative leads. The series cannot exist without them, not in any meaningful way. To even attempt to remove them is corporate greed-blindness at its best. If they dont bring those 2 back, it's only a matter of time before the new iteration dies completely, and not a *long* time either
The line has already been crossed - even if they do brink back Phil and Mike, the damage is done; fans aren't going to trust the brand again, and it's a good bet that Mike and Phil won't be able to put their whole effort in after this betrayal so it won't be the same.
Who cares. Trash then, trash now.
The amount of things that NBC Universal did to the series is Unforgivable.
@@joshk4928 I read yours in Junior's voice. Very funny
where shrek 5?
If I remember correctly, Phil announced the news on Twitter almost right after you released your video essay last year, but man, it didn't hit me that they're gone until I found out they recasted them in the Veggie tale podcast.
wb the meme now that Bob and Larry are allegedly canonically trans?
@@ashkitt7719 himbo Larry 😭😭
It even made jokes that adults can enjoy without being dirty. I didnt watch it as a kid but i saw some compilations and those jokes are universally funny. Kids and adults laughing at the same jokes, truely beautiful
I think it helps was that veggietales had a legit handle on what would eventually become zoomer humor and predicted a lot of modern trends
@@tlshortyshorty5810 W E E D E A T E R
@@tlshortyshorty5810 “In the future, humor will be
A U T O G E N E R A T E D”
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A moment of silence for those who always "Had a show for us". Thank You Phil and Mike, God made you special and he loves you both very much 😔
Phil and Mike were the heart and mind of the Veggietales series. And the fact that Big Idea basically ripped their heart and brain out by firing them is really ridiculous.
I think what made VeggieTales special is that while its Christian message was never a sidenote it knew it could be fun! It acknowledged that kids like goofy humor they like things to be fun, and I think it really nailed that so well. It's a difference in real passion, it's now in the hands of people who will imitate the the steps but won't put the heart into it.
I feel bad for Phil and Mike... While I never watched Veggietales growing up, I acknowledge the effort these guys(along with Big Idea, and everyone who were involved) put into their work!
They really did leave a mark in animation, and they have my full respect 🍅🥒
I can't believe this has happened! VeggieTales was such a big part of my childhood! I feel sad that future generations will never be able to enjoy and cherish it.
Don’t worry it will live on as long as we remember it
The old, good ones are still available, so it's not a total loss.
I do agree that it will be very sad not having new ones of the same caliber anymore, though.
We’ll just have to show them the old episodes then. Kids can get into old entertainment if it’s good enough, and I think VeggieTales is.
Not entirely true. As long as the original episodes from the 90s still exist then we can still enjoy and cherish it.
When you think about it, doesn't every generation say that about future generations? So many series come and go, it's in their nature, so that space for new series that a new generation will enjoy take their places. There was probably someone sad that future generations will never enjoy Tarzan, Hercules Poirot, The Phantom or 50s-style TV westerns.
Id love to see you do an interview with Phil and Mike. It does hurt to see the end of an era but I'll always be grateful for Veggietales and the memories it gave me.
When I was a kid, we actually went to the same church is Phil and Lisa Vischer. He was a really cool guy, and while I don’t remember because I was so young, my parents told me he would do the voice of Bob and Archibald asparagus for us. Lotta respect for this man and it’s really sad that they gave him the boot.
In my personal opinion the old VeggieTales felt like it had more style and was more enjoyable than the new one, I'll never forget the days I used to go to this Sunday school service and us kids would watch this almost everyday
Did you watch Veggietales when it was first released in the erly-to-mid 1990s?
@@ericengvall8619 I think they did show episodes from the 90s also in church, usually they would play it on dvd but mostly vhs, I was born 2004 but I definitely remember watching alot of vegitales in my early childhood
Where would you say the drawing line is between the Classic and newer episodes?
@@DrunkenHorseman So it's not strictly appeal to nostalgia then. Maybe the unpolished earliness of the original cartoons is what helped make it funnier.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 Depends on whether you appeal to nostalgia or appeal to novelty.
Both the show and the creators deserved so much better.
No. The show deserves to fade away.
@@lachesisazzie2515 🧂🧂🧂
@@lachesisazzie2515 "it deserves to fade away because unmmmmm its old and bad ok"
I was raised Jewish and Catholic and I went to a Christian Horse camp as a kid, and my favorite part was listening to the veggie tales songs when doing activities like rock climbing and painting. It was still such a big part of my childhood and it's so depressing to see what's happened.
As a kid I always thought it was just movie logic that Norman Osborn was able to be fired from Oscorp. But no, apparently the creator of something can, in fact, be fired from it.
The thing that made Veggietales great was that it wasn’t overly preachy, ironically enough. They told the story, explained the moral at the end, but made sure to have fun with it the whole way. It didn’t hurt that most of the lessons were things most people can agree on, regardless of affiliation.
Exactly! Both my parents are fairly secular people (particularly my dad) and they would let us watch Veggietales because they gave genuinely good messages about caring about people. You didn't need to be Christian to love the show. It was just based on the Christian fables.
@@spibow To this day, I still find myself humming "The Water Buffalo Song".
@@timesnewlogan2032 Larry's hairbrush song is always in my head because it's a daily struggle
@@spibow "Shocked and slightly embarassed at the sight of Larry in a towel."
Definitely I love how VeggieTales wasn't forcing political Christian morals to my generation tbh. It was basically just a zany, and wholesome Christian kids show that was humorous and witty to watch.
What bothers me the most about this is that the show was Phil’s way to share his beliefs and the word of god. The show cannot be divorced of the Christian faith that’s why it exist. It’s really gross to me that big, secular companies who do not care about sharing the gospel are now in charge of what he did for out reach.
You don’t have to like Christianity or be a Christian to find that incredibly gross.
And honstly it's also the companies just cutting corners. They don't care, they don't care about the creators. They say they're doing to save money but in reality it's just them being greedy.
@@katefresina832 grumpy kids, greedy dreams...
This is not what Christmas means...
The creators have actually gone the opposite way of Christianity. One if not both of them are way unto the CRT stuff, and saying white people should be punished and all that crap.
So it makes me feel less bad for them
@@cheesewrap Nooooo! They fell for that crap?! Man that sucks. Seems everyone, even churches are falling more and more away from God nowadays
@@thelemon597 its sadly true. The awful things I've seen of churches nowadays is terrible. There are some good ones, like one that I go to, but a lot of them are corrupt. People don't want to read the truth anymore.
I think I can fill in some of the gaps here, having kept up with Phil Vischer's twitter and having grown up watching the BTS material for the old series.
- The original 4 developers of VeggieTales were Phil, Mike, Lisa Vischer, and Kurk Heineke. Phil and Mike were the writers, producers, directors, and voices of Bob and Larry. Lisa voiced Junior, but she also helped write some of the songs, like the What Have We Learned song. Heineke was the series composer, so he's the one you really gotta thank for the big musical element of the show.
- Phil and Mike were kept on with the Netlflix project as voice actors, but nothing else. All four of them were brought back on to work on The VeggieTales show with the promise that they'd have more input with how the show was run.
- Phil and Mike got to write a couple scripts and give advice to the new team, but they weren't getting the input they were promised. When they started arguing with the producers about these promises vs what they got, all four of the core creators were let go. The studio heads said that they no longer needed them to make the show successful. Phil made a tweet verbalizing his frustration at being fired, but later removed said tweet.
Thank you Phil and Mike for making me happy all these years. R.I.P. Veggietales (1993-2022)
So hey, if you like Mike's work, really look into the Dead Sea Squirrels. The way the characters are written parallel the Veggie Tales cast, and the books can very easily translate into an animated series. (Which is great, because they've had an animated promo trailer kicking about for a year or two now.) They even throw in a benign quip at the ends of the books about how the moral ties into a bit of scripture. It's a truly spiritual successor, pun intended.
This would be bad enough if Phil and Mike were only the voices of Bob and Larry, but they were actually like 85-90% of the entire main cast! They voiced pretty much every single male character in this show, even Mr. Nezzar! Which is why absolutely none of the characters sound the same anymore, not even close! 😞
I just listened to some of the new podcast. The new voice of Bob sounds fine. Larry's voice, on the other hand, that's just awful.
The firing of Phil and Mike from veggie tales is like the same equivalent to letting go of Trey and Matt from South Park when all 4 guys together did most of the voices of their respective shows!!
Phil and Mike are amazing! In thier voice acting alone, so many voies that sound different! My mom and I listen to Bob and Larry sing the 70s all the time. It's heart breaking that Veggie Tales has been taken away from them. There were a lot of creative, good, fun stuff in early Veggie Tales.
I met Mike Nawrocki about 20 years ago- kind of. There was a radio show interviewing him talking about being a writer and voice actor, and they were taking questions from listeners. So my mom got me on the phone and when he heard a little kid was on the phone he actually put on the Larry voice and talked to me for a few minutes. I was only five or six so I barely remember it but I do recall being the kindergarten equivalent of starstruck. It still means a lot to me that he didn't mind stopping to have a conversation with some kid from Alberta convinced he was actually a pickle. I hope he's proud of his legacy
I was beginning to think that nobody would talk about this! Thanks for making more people aware of it! Thanks for giving The Dead Sea Squirrels a shout out, too!
VeggieTales will leave a great legacy. No matter where it goes, we will always have the memories
I grew up going to Christion Night schools and Christion Summer camps! I will always remember the times when something wouldn't go according to plan and our teacher would go "Well, I don't know what to do today so we are just going to watch Veggie Tales for an hour!" and everyone in the room would just go crazy with excitment! Veggie Tales was one of those things I really looked forward to cause it was one of those shows that everyone liked and could talk about!
That's tragic. This show was my childhood and its so sad how bad it crashed and burned.
@You must know that's a weird way to spell Dream
@cyber if by that comment you mean yourself then I agree
It's disappointing to see when a creation that took decades to make just swept away from your own hands. The old veggie tales definitely was in everyone's childhood and now we might get a remake that will never compare to the original.
My family and I watch TBN, and they literally had a special program months ago talking about the new Veggietales shows with Phil and Mike. We were SO excited to see them back in control, so to hear they've done this to Mike and Phil is infuriating. I can't even understand why this happened, and now I feel like they were used JUST to promote the new content. My heart goes out to them, I dreamed of working for them as a kid, but I guess THAT "big idea" is dead~
On the bright side, they did touch the hearts of millions of kids around the world. And now that those kids have grown up, they can at least share that magic with their kids, as well. So, we can definitely say that Phil and Mike have succeeded in what they wanted to accomplish. Even if it didn't come with monetary success, it did come with a spiritual one.
Another Christian animated series that was well done was "Story Keepers." It was mostly at retelling of bible stories for kids but also had it's own storyline about life in Roman times which was well been. That and veggietales were really the only Christian animated series that I know of that were really trying in my book.
That was a pretty good one as well. And so was Friends and Heroes and Superbook. There were a few good Christian cartoons.
Flying House was also good. Superbook (the anime one) was a spin off of Flying House.
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There was an old anime of Superbook as well.
Finally another Story keepers enjoyer. We got our hands on a box set of the VHS tapes when we were young and it's still a fixture in our living room. It goes to show that the only way to change a person's mind with media is to make it good. It shows you're willing to treat them with respect and not condescension.
I love superbook
Veggie Tales was my childhood, so this hurts. The original episodes and the Jonah movie had such great writing! Still makes me laugh.
Yeah it’s sad to hear what happened and miss this show. Also hey (it’s JAM) 👋
@@SPRX77 Jammo! Good to see you over here on this amazing channel. 😊
@@MewJoy IKR wasn’t expecting to see a fellow acquaintance here :3
Seems like we found the answer to the Ship of Theseus.
The ship is not the old wood rebuilt, or the repaired ship still christened.
It is the sailors and the captain aboard.
I remember every time my parents turned on VeggieTales, I would think "Ughh, this show again!", but after like 10 minutes, my eyes could never be torn away. VeggieTales is my childhood, and I wish that my younger self liked it as much as I do now, since I never wanted to actually watch the show until my parents turned it on. It really helped me learn stories during my Christian childhood. I think the one episode/movie I could never forget is the chocolate bunnies. Idk why, but that one was always a favorite. It's horribly sad to see such a masterpiece be ripped away from the original creators and given to cheap-stakes who are filled with greed and only greed. Thank you for being my childhood, VeggieTales, my memories of you will always be treasured. ❤️
This actually makes me incredibly sad yet mad? They took away the people that made the show what it was. It’s honestly like seeing my childhood fall apart in front of me. I don’t see the VeggieTales series doing any good without Phil and Mike…😢 I’m afraid for the future of one of my favourite series.
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As a Hispanic teenager who grew up watching an almost good amount of VeggieTales, it's very unfortunate that two men behind a series (a beloved series) got wrongfully fired by corporates.
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I know well I'm not the only Hispanic/Latino who watched the series during childhood, because it aired in Latin America.
It’s always nice to hear other people’s love for this show. It’s really a fantastic series and it makes me happy that it means so much to so many.
I feel so sorry that their show was wrenched from their hands so brutally. I hope they can come up with something new but still as sweet, funny and well done. I know it's a long shot but I believe in them!
It has been a very long time since I have ever watched the show, but since apparently the longtime voice actors for Bob and Larry have been fired after their decades of dedication and hard work to the franchise, I will say this for old times’ sake.
*NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!* 😫
@ im sacred
No, it isn’t.
This is very sad. I hope one day they change their minds managed to bring back the original writers and cast members. I also hope Paramount+ can continue the show.
Also, SaberSpark, considering the Indian animation studio, 88 Pictures, did the animation for recent Veggietales episodes, who should do the animation if Veggietales came back? Reel FX or Skydance Animation (formerly known as Ilion Animation Studios)?
Man that really sucks to hear how things have gone down for veggietales and it’s og cast/creators. I loved the og stuff as a kid, for all the reason you laid out it was fun and actually funny with a simple moral focus of just trying to help teach people to be good people
What makes me sad, that VeggieTales is a show I grew up with when I was a kid, Phil Visher created my childhood and I want to thank him for that. I still remember the time when every time my dad was gonna buy Pizza every Saturday to watch his fights, He would say one line from VeggieTales in spanish “They eaten Pizza?” which he still does today.
Those 90s Veggie Tales cartoons still hold up. The jokes, the songs, I still think of them as an adult.
i love the line colors in ur character so much ;0;
I will forever cherish my VeggieTales VHS collection 💔
I feel that if Big Idea and NBC Universal were aware of how many people cared about VeggieTales, they'd pump the brakes and bring the OGs back.
That means you, me, and others who admired the show need to bring it to their attention.
A message to everyone watching, get this man to 2 million subs!
Already subbed but yea, let's get Saber to 2M!!
I predict this will happen!
It's so cool that saber can literally make advertisements funny and make me not want to skip over them.
The short-lived VeggieTales Show reboot was a surprising burst of well-written VeggieTales content. I'd probably say it was their best content, if not for the nostalgia value of the original.
I am a Christian and I would always watch this show, whether it was at my nana’s house with my cousin or at church. I don’t know why they would fire these talented people :(
It's a sad thing, but this happens to most IPs that last longer than expected. It happens a lot for video games, but tv shows (mainly cartoons) also reach that point. The original people are good at what they do, make something great, then over time the old guard is replaced by someone else who either lacks the same talent or doesn't care for the product at all.
For video games, developers leave and join different studios all the time, but the publisher/developer often tries to trick people into thinking it's always the exact same people working on the latest release. Same with TV shows, writers come and go all the time, so quality can fluctuate. And if the show runs long enough, the original creator likely ends up leaving the show, only for it to continue without them or get a cheap spin-off or reboot.
It shows a lack of care and acknowledgment just how much a person can help or hurt a series. Be it the main creator or the team as a collective. Once it hits a stride, the company that owns it sees them all as expendable. Same with voice actors, easy to replace, with no recognition of the talent that helped bring the character to life.
Hell, how often do you see praise for an IP that's handled by someone new and they knock it out of the park?
Rare actually
I’m heartbroken to hear this!! Phil and Mike are the main reasons this show was successful
I remember your previous Veggietales video. That was the video where I decided to subscribe to your channel.
0:58 the synchronization with the change of Saber’s avatar caught me off guard
Just the comment I was looking for
Im not even Christian or Catholic but I really enjoyed watching Veggie tales as a kid it really was a nice show to watch
Catholic is Christian.
i remember waiting eagerly for the veggie tales video essay. i can’t believe it has been two years since it’s release
Personally I think, Phil and Mike should either make an episode or DVD or even movie one last time. So us viewers that grew up with VeggieTales can have a proper goodbye from the characters. We at least should deserve that
Veggietales, along with 3-2-1 Penguins, was my entire childhood.
I remember owning video cassettes of the OG VeggieTales. Well, may the good ol' VeggieTales rest in peace. From really long ago to now.
*Plays Pua Paoakalani (b)*
Well there is always the possibility that they could get rehired at some point if which ever entity that owns it in the future might realize that their firing was a mistake, as unlikely as that is but who knows weirder things have happened.
Never gonna watch the new stuff but I’m still thankful for the memories
This a certified NOT weed eater moment.
Sure was pretty random tho
Honestly it's so baffling how they just started cutting the Christian themes from the show, it was such an integral part of the show, and they didn't shove it in your face constantly. I'm starting to think that they have some sort of anti-christian agenda at this point.
That’s a lot of media now. The Christians portrayed now are usually idiots, villains, creeps, or name only-Christians who are really just secular.
Words can't describe how much this breaks my heart
I grew up with VeggieTales when I was a kid and LOVED it to bits! It's quite a shame to see it go downhill so quickly and have it ripped from the hands of the very people who created it. Quite a sad end to it. The best of luck to Mike and Phil on their future endeavors.
At this point, I think VeggieTales ran its course, in terms of trying to recapture the level of fame that they had in the late 1990's and early 2000's. As much as I hate how Phil, Mike, Lisa, and Kurt are no longer the owners of their series, it's probably for the best that they move on to other projects. And Saberspark said it best: We have the old memories and the old content to look back on.
This is why I avoid vegetables, they betray you
@You must know what the actual heck...
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@@barryallen2240 thanks
I grew up with these guys, despite being raised by an atheist father.
But he still let us watch this show regardless, because he knew my sibling and I just adored them. And I never let it go from my heart.
Hearing this, it's like my childhood is dying in front of me, barely holding on.🥺💔
Amazing video saberspark, fantastic job.
I Love veggie tales
It was my childhood and for me and many other
And now that the two main characters are gone it feel like the entire show has just lost all it life and soul
I hope mike and phil are doing ok now