"They say everyone's born a hero. But if you let it, life will push you over the line until you're the villain. Problem is, you don't always know that you've crossed that line..." -- Jessica Jones
Jordan is just basing his behavior on how Superman has acted Jordan's entire life. Clark has never really understood that he is supposed to be setting an example to his sons, and the example he is setting is one of somebody who does what he pleases, and then lies to cover it up.
@@Averywhitehalleverything about that moment screams red flag for so many reasons all season Jordan has been distancing himself from the human condition & that’s the difference between him and Clark! Clark wants to be human Jordan doesn’t! He wants to be admired and loved maybe even worshiped a little much like the bizzaro Jonathan was and that’s dangerous & my worry is that after the death of Superman Jordan will completely shut himself off from feeling to fill in for his father and go after lex because next season I don’t think we will see Clark for the first few episodes so during that time I could see a reign of SuperBoy type storyline
Jordon really chose the wrong time to go public with lex out of prison and if he finds out hes Lois and Clark’s son he’s gonna work out Clark is superman
Jordan has no idea that Lex is out. His parents keep him and Jon in the dark about everything they're up to even though they promised total transparency. I guess they lied about that too.
@@thescream18 Think of him like how Chloe was on the earlier seasons of Smallville, trying to deep dive into the truth until it wound up getting them into trouble.
@@omarcogle1965 I vaguely remember Smallville, but she was one of his best friends and much closer to Clark than Jr. is to Jordan or Clark. The biggest risk and potential for him finding out is Sarah's connection with him, and I suppose Jordan's recent photo shoot.
That argument right there Jordan have with his father is like a similar argument Bizarro Jonathan had with his Bizarro father. Now Jordan in this one is acting like Bizarro Jonathan and that made Bizarro Lois divorce Bizzaro Clark and eventually, that made Bizarro Clark go insane and lose his humanity.
Jordan has no right to yell at his father. Clark is trying so hard to keep him out of trouble as well as Lois because they have experience with these kind of things.
Yeah, but when you think about it it's also kinda hypocritical for Clark especially to yell at Jordan about doing his heroics in secret considering how on his very 1st day in Metropolis, Clark immediately revealed himself as Superman to the public and interacted with the kid he saved (just like how Jordan interacted with the people he saved from the tornado). Considering how Jordan's been doing his hero work in secret for the past few months, it's kinda unfair for everyone to hold Jordan to such a high standard considering compared to Clark, Jordan's hid his heroics from the public eye for much longer.
@@envoyeli2892 Does not matter, he’s being arrogant about it. He’s feeding his own ego. Clark never did that with the kid. Also if you listen to what Sam says someone could start to put things together and eventually find out where they live and possibly revealing who he is as well as his father. He also completely disobeyed his parents. Another thing is that Jordan is still a kid, Clark was an adult when he first revealed himself to the public. Jordan had no right to disobey his parents and there is no justifying his behavior.
No, Clark has FAILED repeatedly to protect the boys from deadly danger! He also struts around Smallville as Superman so frequently that it's implausible that people who have known him their whole lives don't recognize that Clark has the exact same face (even facial hair), eyes, hairstyle, physique, and voice! The writing this season is just plain bad!
@@Batman-lg2zj - Yes he did. He's on Jordan's case for doing exactly what HE did when he was a teenager, disobeying his mother and playing superhero around town! Lana even commented on all the weirdness that used to go on when they were teens because Clark refused to not play hero. Clark also seems to have forgotten that when he made his own public debut he wasn't even wearing a mask. Those glasses must be Kryptonian tech, because otherwise it's utterly unbelievable that his secret identity has held up in an age of facial recognition tech.
It’s crazy how people wanna defend Jordan and is blind to what is happening. It’s not that he wants to be seen, he wants praise and doesn’t actually care about the people
Madness is the hatred that people like you have for this character. That is not true. If she didn't care about helping people, she would use her powers for her own benefit and until now she only used them to save people.
He really didn't seem that way though? I don't know why the show decided to start claiming he just wants praise. Maybe he's starting to enjoy the attention a little, but that seems pretty realistic for a kid his age who can do what he can. -He seemed like he was almost panicking at the idea of being seen saving Sarah and Jr. when he called his dad back and said they needed to talk. That doesn't sound like someone who wants praise. -He said the hero sounded pretty badass to him ONCE at school in a way in a moment when people were mocking the hero. To me, that seemed to me to be way more defensive and like he was deflecting during a conversation that was uncomfortable to him. If the show wanted me to think Sarah was justified in complaining to her mother about Jordan 'bragging' at school, then I needed a lot more than just that one scene. If he had been going around to kids and talking about how awesome he thought the hero was and how maybe it was someone they knew etc but he wasn't. -The selfies were not a huge deal. Superman himself has done interviews and been on television. I don't understand the issue they're taking with the world knowing Jordan exists. I'm sorry if you see it differently, but I really don't think this part of the show was executed well.
@@colettec5614 "I don't understand the issue they're taking with the world knowing Jordan exists." I haven't watched all the show, so I can't judge the rest of the comment, but what is not to get? Superman takes selfies around the world, not in his hometown. A young and dumb country kid rightfully deduced his hometown from two videos: think about what a clever person could figure out. Jordan is pretty much putting the entirety of Smallville in danger for a little recognition, because as he said, "I just didn't care." Sure, it's understandable coming from a naïve teen, but is in no way acceptable from a responsible perspective and is exactly the type of behavior to create more men like Lois' father.
There’s a thin line, I see both sides they wanna protect Jordan but he’s also reaching that age where he’s really becoming his own person who wants to make his own decisions. In a year or 2 he’ll be 18 so all they can do is support his decisions & help him navigate his decisions to the best of their ability without trying to hold him to this crazy standard that even Clark didn’t stick too
Right! I mean Clark revealed himself immediately to the public as Superman on his very 1st day in Metropolis and yet he's mad at Jordan for interacting with the people he saved just like how he interacted with the kid he saved from the falling car, heck Clark has even done a live television interview as Superman and yet he's mad at Jordan for taking selfies.
@@Batman-lg2zj - Which is why Clark should be bringing him along on these kinds of things to teach him how to be Superboy. Like a Boomer parent, Clark tries to delegate Jordan's training to technology (holo combat sims instead of TV) and gets mad at Jordan when he messes up on things he was never trained to do. Clark doesn't even devote a moment's thought to the boys' futures. Heck, he didn't even devote any thought to what Intergang was doing with Bizarro's body!
@@daniels7907 he does care about their futures and he didn’t Jon to be a junky to have powers and he didn’t want the boys doing stuff to get into trouble . Obviously you don’t pay attention to anything . I’m sorry to say this but Clark is a good father and he doesn’t want Jordon to get into trouble or having his identity exposed .
@@Batman-lg2zj - You're confusing what Clark "wants" versus what he actually *does* to address these issues. He's actually *not* a very good father. For example, *nobody* ever said that Jordan's mental illness problems were *ever* resolved. Clark just wasn't interested in them anymore. Likewise, Jonathan's issues escaped Clark's attention because he just expected Jon to be the "easy" child. Clark (and Lois) tend to address problems once it's already too late. I mean come on, Clark can't even spring for a pair of magic glasses for Jordan?
Jordan should’ve flown away the minute he landed so it’s fair for Clark and Lois to be mad but at the same time Jordan is reaching the age where Clark and Lois need to start letting him make his own decisions. Plus Clark revealed himself on the very first day of him being superman when he have that kid his cap back he could’ve flown away but he didn’t so it’s unfair for them to be pissed at Jordan for doing what Clark did on his first day plus Jordan had goggles and a hat to hide his identity.
@@gabrielsouto5869 - There's more to it than that. Clark and Lois know perfectly well that Jordan has Social Anxiety Disorder, and they *should* have noticed that he doesn't seem to have *any* friends. So of course he's seeking attention and approval. Clark is supposed to be teaching Jordan, but like some Boomer parent he's been delegating that to technology (the holo combat sims in the Fortress) rather than teaching Jordan equally important skills like how to deal with the public. One of the worst sins of parents is leaving their kids to figure out life on their own, only to turn around and complain that they got it wrong. Clark and Lois are extremely guilty of this one.
@@daniels7907But that's the thing as well Jordan isn't careful with the secret. He's bragging about and Sam even says if people in town which Jr is already doing btw, puts two and two together as well as track his flight paths it's only a matter of time. Kyle was able to do it just my measuring how all the weird stuff started happening as shown as the Kent's moved back to smallville. It's not hard
@@dimensionzone8048 - Yes, and do you not grasp how STUPID that writing is? *CLARK* is even less cautious than Jordan! His "secret identity" is a pair of glasses. His Superman costume leaves his face in full view. He keeps showing up in Smallville as Superman since Clark Kent moved back there, was flying into and out of the house before Jordan even could fly, and tempts fate by showing up as Superman around people who have known him their whole lives. The ONLY reason he hasn't been exposed is because the writers seem to think it's still the 1930's. This is a case of Informed Wrongness where Clark actually plays a LOT more fast and loose with his secret identity than Jordan does. But we're supposed to regard Jordan (hooded and masked) as somehow exposing himself less than Clark, who has the same face, hair and even voice as Superman - all on open display!
For people saying Clark is being hypocritical, Clark planned to go public when he went to metropolis. Clark was an ADULT when he went public. Jordan is an ADOLESCENT. He has no plan or alter ego. He is a teenager wanting attention and validation more than saving lives.
Also at the time Clark didn't have much villains or even a life to protect. Clark over the years has gathered many enemies making it a lot more dangerous for Jordan or by extension Jon. Clark now also has a career, wife and kids. 2 very different situations as well as Clark trained at the fortress for years, Jordan threw a hissy fit at a training session cause he didn't like the type of training.
i'll never understand the 'hypocrite' thing not wanting your child to make the same errors as you is not hypocritical (even though the situations are different)
@@namishjain9238 Well the thing is it comes off that way when you try to high road them on it. The first step to avoiding the hypocrisy is to admit those mistakes you made in the first place. The other person needs to know you were in their shoes once and understand that while you made that mistake, you learned from it. Instead of acting like you got it right the whole time. If you've ever seen Modern Family, Claire and Hailey are the best examples of this sort of issue.
I’m working on a video essay that will premiere after the finale. I’ve had to go back and re-watch episodes to make it. I recently rewatched 1x01 and the moment at 1:17 parallels the moment in ep 1 where Jordan is telling Clark he’s not Superman because they know what Superman looks like. It’s a full circle moment. From anger at not knowing the truth to a lack of care over the secret.
Because the secret has failed, repeatedly, to protect the boys from deadly danger. Supervillains show up at their house! But Clark, who used to openly disobey Martha and play superhero around town, and hypocritically angry that Jordan isn't buying into his "normal life" lie. And Clark lies so much that it's laughable that "truth" is one of the virtues associated with Superman!
I understand he likes the attention but being irresponsible like this is very dangerous someone is going to find out who he is and will put Johnatan and Lois in danger specially with Lex going out
Only because of bad writing. Seriously, Clark swans around Smallville openly as Superman and we, the audience, are supposed to believe that a pair of glasses hides his identity from people he's known his whole life (just because that idea worked in the 1930's). Jordan at least wears a hood and a mask. Clark already seems to have forgotten that if Jordan hadn't interrupted Peia and the Intergang thugs with Kryptonite lasers then he would be DEAD right now. I would love to see how Lois would have covered up Clark disappearing at the same time Superman died!
@@LCNighthawk - True. Also, his Social Anxiety Disorder means that he doesn't really have any friends. That Clark and Lois haven't figured this out causes me to once again wonder how they ever held jobs as investigative journalists.
@@daniels7907 his only friend is his brother that’s the problem Jordan like you said has problems to socialize with his disorder something we haven’t seen in the last seasons
@@LCNighthawk - He briefly connected with some of the football team when he played, but he didn't seem to form any lasting friendships once he was off the team. His parents are so used to this that they haven't considered the negative implications. But they should have. There is nothing healthy about a 16 year old whose only "friends" are his brother and his ex.
@@kathrynhoward4196 I think the worry is that Jordan might care more about being seen than helping people. I know his family is mainly worried about him accidentally revealing who they are.
Making Jordan pause his hero work is actually the right decision because he has been using it as a distraction from what is going on in his life with Sarah and he needs time to himself to grow as a person. I am not gonna lie, if I was a superhero I would mainly be doing it to distract myself from my problems rather than trying to resolve them.
The reason he's acting this way is because he likes the attention. All his life he's been under his brother's shadow, now he finally has the spotlight and being in the spotlight for someone who never had that can be a huge addiction.
What I don't understand is, can Clark's mom at the fortress create a reality with real consequences of what happens if Jordan went public as himself. I don't understand why Clark didn't make this happen as a teaching lesson.
Look I’m not gonna blame Jordan but he cares about the city much more than he cares about himself I like that I like that a lot he just don’t know it because Clark and Louis start getting mad with him 0:54
The fear on Jordan’s face when Clark yelled, “Hey!” He realized two things at that moment: boys, even teenage boys, fear the wrath of their fathers; and when Superman tells you to do something, YOU DO IT.
1:28 😢 look at him, you can actually see his heart is broken. I wonder if the final season will rein him in or make Jordan worse, I think the former due to fewer episodes sadly.
You know, a part of me thinks that clark is just jealous of Jordan getting more attention then he is. And another part of me that Jordan would say: "oh it's funny you never had a problem using your powers when it benefits you, but when it gives me an advantage you just want to take it away". And clark is just getting in his way.
Clark and Lois have no right to say they are Jordan's parents, not after they put him on crazy pills when in fact there's nothing mentally wrong with him. Jordan was developing super powers at a young age and the parents never bothered to considered that a possibility until Clark decided to reveal his secret identity to his boys.
And nobody's pointing out how ungrateful he is. The guy saved his life. If he wanted Junior (or anyone else) to know who he was, he wouldn't be wearing a disguise. Why is nobody telling Junior to respect the privacy of the guy who saved his ass?
Which is an example of Clark being petty. He's supposed to be *teaching* Jordan, not telling him to go away. Then he has the hypocrisy to complain that Jordan isn't an obedient little dog.
@@daniels7907 That was exactly what happened with Bizarro Clark and Bizzaro Jonathan. It eventually lead them to have their family fall apart and led Bizarro Clark to stop having his normal skintone which then turned his body into gray zombie like body. Difference is even Prime Earth Clark goes through the hardships of family and the struggles, there is no sign of Prime Earth Clark losing his mind and turning into a zombie like creature like the Bizarro version. Bizarro Jonathan also don't agree to be an obedient do either so Prime Earth Jordan is behaving like Bizarro Jonathan.
@@hp2546 - That's not actually true. Bizarro Kal-El (not Clark Kent) never had a secret identity in the first place. He was always a celebrity (he even had a publicist). His marriage was never a secret, nor was it a secret when he and Bizarro Lois had children. Like many celebrities, he simply had a big ego. Bizarro's mental decline likewise had nothing to do with being a public figure. It occurred because he was abusing green Kryptonite to boost his powers, and to cope with his split from his Lois and increasing public demonization by Bizarro Ally and Bizarro Jonathan. Just as X-K bestows powers, but also increases aggression (as shown by Jonathan), Bizarro's sanity deteriorated even as his body visibly mutated from green K abuse. This is also why he didn't see his powers decline under this Earth's yellow sun (as contrasted to his Earth's red sun). So he's not a good comparison to use here.
@@daniels7907 What I am talking about was the argument Bizarro Kal-El had with Bizarro Jonathan. I never said they had a secret identity. What happened was it was Jonathan's first time putting himself out there to be a hero. Bizarro Jonathan was the one who wanted to put himself out there without approval. That is the part I am referring to. In the prime earth, there were also the part where Prime Earth Jordan planned to put himself out there saving the building or stopping a tornado and that was also without approval. That part is the similarity I am describing. I was not describing any secret identity part. I am only describing the part where they went out saving the world without any parents' approval. Bizarro Jonathan wanted to do his superhero job independently and so did Prime Earth Jordan. ruclips.net/video/tozQJg4j1Sw/видео.html. If you look at the link, there is an argument happening. They argue about saving the world on their own terms. Prime Earth Jordan had the argument like that with his father about saving the world on his own terms before. In case you forgotten, Prime Earth Jordan had experienced arguing about going out on his own to be a superhero and so did Bizarro Jonathan. So read before making judgement. Don't just assume. Only comparison I am describing is how both have an ego wanting to save the world on their own.
Honestly I’m kinda annoyed this whole season with how everyone is treating Jordan, it’s like everyone blames everything on him when he’s not in the wrong, like when Lane tired to make him get a haircut and then Jordan was blames for it and forced to almost get one, and then with Jon and the fire which Jordan did nothing wrong in and even especially here, Clark is being such a hypocrite when it comes to humility’and secret identities, after he left to fortress he immediately showed himself to the world and did live interviews hung out with fans and a lot worse then Jordan did, and at least Jordan has a mask that covers 90% of his face while clark did all of his stunts without anything to stop people from finding out he’s Clark. And Clark needs to grow up he’s been using every excuse to keep Jordan sheltered and not a hero to the point we’re he’s gonna loose jordan forever, I don’t think he realizes Jordan can just fly away at superspeed and it’s not like anyone can really stop him, Also Both Clark and Lois need to realize there sons are what 16-17 they are becoming adults they aren’t 10 and they need to start treating them like adults and not be so angry and quick to judge stuff and control there every move, they should of know Jordan has anxiety and self worth issues he’s had them his whole life and pretty much felt like an outsider and now he’s actually getting praise for stuff he’s doing of courses he’s gonna feed on that maybe if he got that attention from home or maybe if Clark and Lois tired encourage him to get more then 1 friend he might actually not try to look for validation in the people he saves, but no they wouldn’t even consider that and they will probably make him apologize again for something that isn’t his fault and then give a BS do better or we could be better to line when they go back to high standers next season.
1. Jordan was wrong to insult his grandfather over the mere suggestion of a haircut 2. Clark and Jordans situation is completely different. Clark was an adult and the first superhero without any enemies at the time. Jordan if he goes public would be giving leverage to Clark's enemies and revealing that Superman does in fact have a secret identity. Jordan also has more people dependant on him such as Jon or Lois whilst Clark only had Martha when he started. 3. Clark very much can stop Jordan.
@@Markus2E5I6, 1. With Sam it was less of a suggestion, if it was a suggestion Sam would of just brought up the idea and the let it go when Jordan said no but he didn’t, While Jordan could of handled it better he isn’t the one wrong. Sam should of asked before driving to the Barber 2. Ya it is different but not a lot of ways, Clark does the bare minimum to hide his identity he wears glasses and that’s it, and Clark was doing live interviews and hanging out with his save’s, Jordan never went on the news, and if Jordan goes public it wouldn’t give Clark’s enemies a leverage it wouldn’t be any more of a leverage then when Jon Irons became Steel. 2.5. Ya unlike Clark who went into it alone Jordan doesn’t he has his family plus the Irons to back him up in a fight which makes Jordan being a public hero all the better, John got over his Nat using her suit and being a hero I don’t know why Clark can’t be as supportive of Jordan. And Clark’s been trying to stop Jordan for months from being a hero when everyone told him to lay off and let Jordan be one maybe if Clark was supportive and actually trained Jordan instead of giving him holograms and lasers to fight maybe Jordan wouldn’t be so attention seeking. 3. If Jordan wanted to leave he could Whats clark gonna do lock his own son up it seems like he’s been trying sense this season started
@@ryansweezey1451 1. It was a suggestion if it was being forced Sam would try blackmail or something worse. All he did was drive Jordan to the barber and said he should get a haircut which he should. And yes he is wrong for disrespecting his grandfather over a haircut. Seriously just a haircut. Nothing big. 2. Its different in every way. A lot more risk. Clark doesn't do the bare minimum he does lots of subtle signs such as feigning weakness, being mild and the fact no one thinks superman has a secret identity. Jordan very much is leverage if Clark's enemies find out he has a less experienced and less powerful son to pick off especially if the sons fragile and mentally unstable. It would cause commotion in the DoD, public and his enemies if it comes out he has a son. This isn't like the dc comics where heroes are wide and everywhere in this universe its mostly just Clark, JHI and the DoD. 2.5 Nat shown to be 10x more mature than Jordan as well as she already went through war on her earth. Jordan blows up over a haircut he needs maturity first. Clark didn't stop him he was training him. And what happened with the training? Jordan once again whines and complains about it. He's not ready he wants it for fame and isn't willing to put the work in. As well as Nat doesn't have a powerless mother or brother to look out for. Only person she has to worry about is her dad who can handle himself. 4. Anywhere Jordan can try to run to Clark could get their faster and force him home it very much is just that Clark is too good of a guy to think of that.
@@Markus2E5I6 Sam was trying to force him and for stupid reasons. Out of 20 million + young Caucasian males with curly hair, someone is going to figure out that it's him. Highly unlikely. Sam just hates Jordan's hair and used it as an excuse to force it on him. Maybe Jordan loves his hair and he needed to stand his ground. He could have said it better, but he shouldn't let people force him to do anything he doesn't want to. If Clark has a way to hide his identity, then he should teach it to Jordan. He should teach him how to avoid being tracked too. For Jordan to be used as leverage, people would first have to make a connection between the two of them. They would have to know that's his son or find out both of their secret identities. Jordan is impatient yes, but Clark could do a better job at preparing him for dangerous situations instead of just hitting him with lasers to prove a point. He could have handled that lesson so much better. Was Jordan supposed to know that Clark had armed the wall to shoot lasers? Was he supposed to see it and dodge? What was the point of that besides making Jordan feel weak. Jordan's powers have been growing by leaps and bounds and if it continues, he will reach his father's power level despite what Jor-El said 2 seasons ago. It's already been discredited by the simple fact that Jordan has almost all of his powers and has full control over them, and is potentially immune to green Kryptonite. Jor-El was wrong. Clark has been so focused on Lois and her illness, Bruno and Peia, the Gazette, and now Lex that he hasn't made any time for either of the boys or Jordan's training. It seems like Jordan made more progress training with Sam Lane than his own father. Nat is very smart and mature for her age, but she isn't perfect either. She doesn't have emotional issues to contend with. She has more than her father to worry about. She cares about the Kents and now Matteo and she would protect them if she needs to.
@@thescream18 Again it wasn't forced or even an attempt at force. He was trying to persuade him but don't go throwing around words like force when there was no force and it wasn't for stupid reasons. Beyond Jordan seriously needing a haircut it a very recognisable hairstyle especially if you see Jordan everyday just like how Junior figured out the hero is someone from smallville in smallville that hairstyle is in the minority. As well as being a hero means doing the hard things, Jordan couldn't even be bothered to get a haircut. His villains are going to connect the dots between 2 kryptonians especially if ones a teenager. They would guess either Morgan edges son or Kal's. And since he would be seen with superman they'll connect the dots. Superman having a son reveals he does have an identity he keeps from the public thus endangering his family. Just for some selfies. When I said that nat just had her dad to worry about I meant if enemies look at her from an outside perspective she just has JHI as no one would know of her and the Kents relationship as well as Matteo was a very recent addition and his family was the one causing trouble so he was safe. As well as for the fact that Nat actually does keep her identity safe and doesn't get emotional or try to seek validation at the cost of her loved ones safety. As for the training thing. The whole point was that its supposed to be unfair. Jordan once again got cocky and was hit with a stray laser. Cause guess what? This isn't a game. Villains will suckerpunch you and try to kill you. They don't care about being fair. Clark even told him that but Jordan once again got emotional, insulted his father (becoming a recurring pattern with him) then went home crying about it like a baby over training. If he can't handle training whats he going to do with the real thing? Start throwing a tantrum in a middle of a fight. And yes he was supposed to see it and dodge he was supposed to stay alert and not let his guard down.
In Episode 6 Season 3 Jordan got mad because the program at the fortress was shooting him with lasers but Clark was just tryna prepare him but instead of listening Jordan storms off and doesn't let his dad explain he did that in pilot season 1
“So what”? “Whatever” Yanking his arm off his father? This boy better ducking watch himself!!! I can’t take this stupid kid anymore; I am getting fed up with his disrespect!
fr like no matter what my dad did, i'd never try to do something like that (also tyler looks a lot and behaves like my dad in this show lol.....my dad and i both agree)
@@thescream18 bruh lois and clark show him more respect than fking jon lol the reason why jordan is so childish is becaose they are to soft with him for real
They did try talking to him about this same issue earlier in the episode. Pretty sure it was the same day. You only get so much talking before it turns into yelling
@@gabrielsouto5869he was he is literally placing targets on their backs just for validation he is hurting okay that's fine but having their enemies go to their door is making things waay worse clark was an adult when he revealed his secret hell even spiderman didn't want his secrect revealed u know WHY because he wanted to protect the people he cared about and to have his privacy and he lost EVERYTHING due to that who's to say that can't happen to jordan....
@@janderson947 I agree I’m saying instead of yelling going back and forth or going dictator like this they should try talking to each other like parent and son
@@gabrielsouto5869 Clark was going to until jordan squared up at him that's when clark hot on the defense when jordan seemed like he wanted to hit him in front of his grandad if jordan would have heard him out then he would have understood do u know how many times clark was bullied alot but jordan doing it for validation then if they took lois for ransom then what I know shouting wasn't helping but I get clarks point he told him why when he first got his powers it can be dangerous but jordan due to getting in his feelings he is being reckless...
Jordan really has been the worst (no offence to the actor ) But during the series he - resented Clark for being the way he was with his anxiety issues - hated Clark for keeping his powers secret -whined and moaned about having to hide his powers - use his powers to give him an advantage in football (a sport he did not even care about until he got powers ) - now hates his parents for not being able to tell his secret or be what he feels is a hero
He resented Clark for not being there for him as a father. He was being bullied had anxiety and emotional issues and he needed his dad around. All he was told was that Clark was away on business and was never told the real reason, so to Jordan it looks like Clark finds work more important than him. The boys should have been told sooner because it directly impacts their lives especially when Jordan develops powers. There are theories that his powers were developing sooner than when they arrived in Smallville, which could very well be the case. No one wants to be lied to for their entire lives. Even Jon was angry about being lied to. Are you forgetting that? Clark and Lois promised to be transparent and not lie to them anymore, but are still keeping them in the dark about what they're up to, even about how sick Lois is. How do you trust someone when they constantly lie to you. There are times when the boys have not told their parents the truth, but they're learning by their parents example. Jordan wants to belong and to fit in with other kids his age. He said so himself in episode 6 of season 1. He thought that the powers would bring him closer to people. He wasn't able to do that before. You're also forgetting that Jon did the same thing but with super drugs. And he also got the whole football season cancelled. You can't say that Jordan did that. He had the decency to bow out when his powers got too strong. He's not out there blurting that he has powers, is related to superman, or is masquerading as the Smallville Samaritan. He's not exposing the family secret to the whole world. I don't know why people are so intent on believing that he's only doing it for fame and glory when he has shown so much heart and compassion since he started saving people in season 2. He never asked for thanks once, but when he acts out one time, you call his character the worst.
get a life lol you must be like 14 for real lol here his was attention like fking homelnader he dont care about the people he save he cares about the cloud
For the last couple of episodes of season 3 of Superman and Lois, I found Jordan to be very annoying. When Jordan keeps revealing himself like this, he would risk not only his identity being revealed, he would expose his father’s identity in the process. Jordan was being immature and selfish.
If they didn't like Jordan going out public is a hero then what was the point of giving him goggles and a hat to disguise himself then like Clark did same thing when he was a kid What a hypocrite 😒😒
They gave him that suit to conceal his identity while doing heroics. But you’re kinda defeating the purpose of the suit when you’re allowing yourself to be seen by everyone and their moms. No hypocrisy, Clark and Lois are right here.
@@alexdorisca - No they're not. Clark struts openly around Smallville as Superman so frequently that the entire idea of his secret identity holding up is blatant writer fiat. IRL, facial or voice recognition tech would identify Superman as Clark Kent easily. Yet the writers have all these characters making stupid statements about how "low key" Clark is. Like when he blatantly used super strength in the diner on Candice's father!
@@jbjigga7045 - This is another case of Clark and Lois being so disconnected as parents that they didn't see this coming. They KNOW that Jordan doesn't really have friends, which is why he was so attached to Sarah. But they don't understand why this would be a problem. Because Clark gets to bask in glory all the time as Superman, and has literally done so since his first public appearance. But, like too many parents, he has forgotten what it felt like when he was young, disobeying his mother to go play superhero around Smallville.
Right, they're allowing him to go out and do superhero things, but they expect for him to never be seen. It makes no sense. I can understand not hanging around after, but to expect no one to witness him in action is ridiculous. He has a disguise and they can teach him about the fight path thing and how to avoid being tracked. The answer to their problem is teach him, not yelling at him about being irresponsible. Plus he told Clark that he was spotted, why are they acting surprised there.
I hate this writing, they are creating and issue that is a none issue for Clark but somehow is for Jordan, why not make him a suit, give him the glasses excuse and move on, if he had an Alias “Superboy” he wouldn’t need to feel like he isn’t getting recognized because he’s superboy and Jordan, I hate this show for it’s poor writing when it comes to its plot driven conflicts, John Did nothing wrong when he killed that guy, Lex should have been freed but it shouldn’t have been in there control because now I can only blame them for freeing there worst enemy, The cancer arc was depressing, Sarah is annoying, Nat is Annoying, The Boys are Annoying, I’m completely losing interest in this because I can’t stand logically moral fallacies that are just ridiculous.
Anyone else got flashbacks to the S2 Bizarro Jonathan-El storyline? Sad that it is kinda repeating itself, though I don't see this going completely in that direction.
It reminds me of my fan made character for the Amazon show the boys. The character is known as Jackson Walker also known as The Liberator. He was the real Soldier Boy he fought in WWII with the 101st Airborne Division he even fought in an eagle's nest and he was one of the troops who fought at the Battle of the Bulge and at the Battle of Berlin. The worst thing was his rotten cousin stole the spotlight from him and called himself Soldier Boy. But his superiors knew that Jackson was the real hero but he didn't view himself as a hero he viewed himself as a person who wanted to fight for his country but he also fought out of vengeance because in his background story he was the victim of the Dachau concentration camp because that's where he lost his parents and family and friends at the hands of Frederick Vought and Stormfront the very people that his family once trusted until they betrayed his family and gave him over to the Nazis so they can have a place in the Fatherland. He escaped from Dachau in early 1940 managed to escape through occupied France saved by a British Navy ship and returned who is hometown in Philadelphia we are his uncle got word of his return. In 1942 he got enlisted in the Army after the Japanese destroyed Pearl Harbor and he escaped with vials of compound V on the day he escaped from Dachau. In the spring of 43 he volunteered for compound V with the greatest results he became virtually indestructible and he was the person who killed Frederick in 1974 by 2021 he killed Fredericks wife Stormfront and now he wants vengeance on homelander for killing his son and daughter-in-law and the civilians on flight 37 and he wants to kill homelander because the psychopath violated his granddaughter Rebecca butcher. This isn't somebody who wants to fight for fame anymore he wants to kill people who claim to be superheroes when all they want to do is fight for themselves and fight for very selfish and vile reasons that's why he's going after the remaining members of the seven by exposing them and then killing them. He joined the boys and he wants to help his grandson in-law by giving him compound V so that he can live. And on the day that homelander is dead will be the day when Jackson decides to show himself to the world and finally walks away from that life forever and he also decides to move on. He owes it all to Queen Maeve and the true reason that he wanted to save her it's because she reminded him of his wife.
Jordan reminds me of Robin Speedy & Beast-Boy from Teen Titans 2003 Series when they have A Strained Relations With Their Mentors Like BATMAN Green Arrow and Doom Patrol. Although When Jordan Arguing with his Parents Clerk Should Say Jordan:So What Your Rules U telling what I can Be I'm Tired of It. Clerk Kent/Dad:As Long IF You Lived under this roof you gonna do what your mother and I tell U to do otherwise I SEND BATMAN & DARKSEID And The Justice Lords Especially My Counterpart Lord Superman ON YOU Do You UNDERSTAND!!! Jordan:WHATEVER I Gonna lived with The Teen Titans Anyway & The Flash.
"You go up to your room and do not come out until we tell you to, and don't you EVER do that to me again." Just makes me laugh 🤣🤣 Third time overall Clark told Jordan to go to his room 😂😂😂
Even tho Jordan is wrong, I think its very hypocriet of Clark. I mean superman wasnt even really in metropolis and he was already known from the start. Saving the boy and talking to him. At least Jordan wears a mask. Superman doesn't even that. I'm still wondering why it took Kyle so long to figure out who Clark was. Clark and Superman are practically twins! Search the difference doesn't have a lot differences. A glass isn't enough to hide who you are. And stopping Jordan when he wanted to go to his room, Just to send him to his room? Not very effective
Its not hypocritical its 2 very different situations Ones an adult purposefully making himself seen to be a beacon of hope The other is a kid who's supposed to be a secret making himself seen for fame. Not to mention Jordan has a lot of vulnerable people (Jon, Lois, Cushings) and could be used as leverage against Clark enemies that wouldn't have existed when Clark first started out
Jordan did too much. Ugh, Jordan.... It's not yet right time, bro. 🤦 When Clark at your age, kinda reckless too and he didn't want repeat history itself again. So please Jordan hold for awhile. 🤦
Clark's hypocrisy in full force, yet again. Did the DoD recover Bizarro? No! Did Clark even *remember* that they stole his body (along with a lot of other dangerous stuff) while he was distracted feeling sympathetic for the Mannheim's? No! Now Lex Luthor is showing up at the farm, the latest in a series of supervillains who come directly to their family home! Clark is acting like a Boomer parent. He's making unbelievably stupid mistakes that endanger his family's LIVES and he's more concerned about maintaining his authority over his kids. If I were Jordan I would blow Clark's secret wide open to the public and call him out on two decades of LIES! It's not as if the family isn't already in deadly danger because of Clark's selective attention span. Because4 I strongly suspect that Clark is going to need Superboy's backup next season, as Luthor isn't going to play nice with Superman.
@@jbjigga7045 - And did do when he was younger. He used to disobey Martha to go play hero all the time, and he still revels in the praise he gets as Superman. Which is why he appears in public so often.
@@jbjigga7045 - Which is bad writing. Period. The whole idea may have worked in the 1930's through the 1960's when men wore suits and hats in public, but we live in 2023 and facial recognition technology is a real thing and cameras can be small enough to put everywhere. This is a case where a character is right only because the show's writers say that they are. But what they depict is flat out unbelievable.
Jordans actively endangering their lives if he reveals superman has a family. 2 decades of lies where? Clark isn't obliged to reveal everything about himself and the boys aren't 20. And revealing that your supermans son and his wife is Lois with a powerless son is a very smart move, no way the government won't try to take Jon to experiment on how to make kryptonian-human hybrid soldiers. Thats just unbelievably stupid and reckless. Not to mention all of Clark's villains attacking you and your powerless family. Very smart all cause he told you to go to your room.
This is when you realize that Lois and Clark shouldn't be parents. Public exposure was inevitable and they could have prepared him for it. And Clark saying he didn't need help when he clearly didn't, is so ridiculous to me. They don't want Jordan to be a superhero but they let you delude yourself believing that he could be. Pure hypocrisy.
Then you think just like an irresponsible teenager instead of an adult with responsibilities. Do you understand the dangerous his putting himself in at least when Clark revealed himself to the world he had full control of his abilities and he also was much older and wiser than a teenager who doesn't understand the risk
Another person bashing Superman and calling him a hypocrite for trying to tell Jordan he needs to keep a low profile. Jordan is an immature teenager who is only doing "hero" business for fame. Everyone can see that. Public exposure is inevitable but how you handle it is what matters. Jordan just wants to bask in it and pump himself up. Jordan has no room for argument. If he did the heroic act and disappeared after, his parents wouldn't be coming down on him. True greatness does not need to prove itself.
I'll bet the whole world is going to know superboy exists. I think Jordan should quit being a superhero and someone should forget that Jordan became Superboy.
@@joeljr.5286 That the fourth season gets less money so some characters will get less time in the fourth season. So that makes it a bit more unlikely Brainiac will make an appearance during the fourth season.
Jordan should blow Clark's secret identity because it isn't doing jack to protect their family from the supervillains that keep showing up at the house. Clark not only parades around Smallville with his face totally uncovered, but he spends so much time there that it's idiotic of the writers to pretend that his secret would survive a single encounter with facial recognition tech. At least Jordan was wearing a hood and goggles, which is more than can be said about Superman when he's standing right next to people he literally grew up with!
@@Trezzy_beenlit - No. He never had a secret identity there. Bizarro actually bought the Kent farm because he had some kind of transdimensional brainwave and it "felt right", but it wasn't where he grew up. This is why everybody on that Earth knew him as "Kal-El" or "Mr. El". That he turned into an obnoxious celebrity had more to do with not having had a humble upbringing. So he became a publicity seeker. Also, he wasn't the only Kryptonian living openly on Earth (Tal-Rho was well known too). This is what Clark doesn't seem to get. Jordan's Social Anxiety Disorder has always meant that he had no real friends. So of course he's suddenly seeking attention after his only "friend", Sarah, treated him like dirt. It doesn't appear to even dawn on Clark, or Lois, that Jordan is desperate for recognition because he's never really had it. Except for his brief stint at football, which didn't last. Clark and Lois are just so used to lying to everybody they know that it doesn't occur to them how hard this is for Jordan.
Okay I can understand where Clark, Lois and Sam are coming from to an extent, but it kinda feels like they're unfairly holding Jordan to an extremely high standard, although I do admit that Jordan's attitude was sorta out of line here. I'm sorry to say so, but everyone's especially Clark's feelings about Jordan going public as Superboy is kinda unfairly too judgmental considering how when Clark first started out as Superman, on his 1st day in Metropolis before he even found a place to live, Clark immediately revealed himself to the world as Superman. Like Lois pointed out in how Jordan could've easily flown away after stopping the tornado, so could've Clark after saving the kid from a falling car, but Clark allowed himself to be seen instead of easily speeding away from the scene and interacted with the kid he saved just like Jordan did. It kinda feels a little hypocritical for Clark to be so mad at Jordan for doing exactly what he did on his very first day and at the very least Jordan waited months before revealing himself as Superboy when Clark revealed himself as Superman on his very first day in Metropolis. It's unfair and I think they could do a better and more gentle approach in understanding Jordan's perspective and getting Jordan to see their perspectives. After all it's not like Jordan was blatantly telling everyone his secret identity, yet everyone is acting like he was.
Also, Clark used to openly defy Martha and play superhero around Smallville. Lana even commented on all the weird stuff that used to go on (because of Clark). Also, it's getting ridiculous the way that the writers on leaning on a 1930's secret identity. Nowadays, any halfway decent facial recognition would identity Clark and Superman as the same person, glasses or no.
Well, the statement isn’t wrong I would say the main difference between these two is that one, Clark was way more careful than Jordan where while he was doing stuff when he was around the boy’s age he was low key enough that the ENTIRE town just chalked it up to some weird shit happening. Another difference is that when he went public as superman, it was after a young man’s lifetime of figuring out to use his powers with intermediate control, on top of almost a decade of formal training from Jor-El. I agree with Lois and Clark on this one because they’re not saying he can’t ever go public, they’re just saying she has to be very careful about doing so, which this entire season he hasn’t. Not to mention the elephant in the room that I don’t think anyone has addressed yet, he might not be completely doing this for the most noble of reasons; at least not anymore. Almost every time he’s saved someone in the latter half of the season he’s complained that he’s not getting any type of recognition from anyone. I mean let’s face it, Even though Jordan is his son, He’s not the altruistic icon that is Clark Kent. At least not yet. I’m not saying he’s horrible by any means but the writers are writing him as very immature, because that’s what he factually is; an immature kid who is still growing and learning. And I think that’s their main worry, he’s just rushing in not REALLY thinking of the consequences and how they can affect the family. I mean look at what happened with the fire department. Honestly speaking Kyle is the dumbest character on the show, he should not have figured out by any means that anyone from the Kent family was super if it wasn’t for Jordan
@@alexalonzo8965 - Is Clark *really* that humble though? He seems to LOVE appearing in public as Superman, especially when he's just done something awesome like stopping Ally from merging the worlds. There was NO reason for him to land on Main Street, Smallville, just to bask in the adoration of the people he just saved. Even though he really shouldn't be letting people he's known his whole life get a good look at his face! This is what Clark is missing. His alleged "humility" is phony. He's *enjoyed* being public since his first rescue and his first TV interview with Lois. If he were honest (he isn't) then his costume would hide his face and he wouldn't allow himself to be captured in photos or videos. Clark is the kind of hypocritical parent who pulls the "do as I say, not as a do" stunt. He's not actually setting a good example as a role model for Jordan, and he's blaming Jordan rather than himself for that.
@@daniels7907exactly Clark if anything Jordan hides his identity better because he hides 90% of his face, it seem at this point Clark is just using any excuse to keep Jordan sheltered and home because he never liked the idea of Jordan going out and never gave good reason why it was always something stupid, and even more so Clark never hid his identity after leaving the fortress he did live interviews and hung out in the crowed a lot and still does, someone should really show clark all those moments so he sees how Jordan isn’t the one in the wrong here
I agree with Lois and Clark 50%. I disagree with the fact that he shouldn’t make himself known bc Clark did the same thing when he was Jordan’s age. But I agree with the fact that he’s doing it for the wrong reasons. It’s easy for things to go completely left morally for a hero with that type of mindset. This is a pretty extreme example but, at its core, Homelander has the same type of mentality😂he does it mainly for the admiration/love he gets for doing heroic stuff and being a hero in general. Wouldn’t be surprised if he started out the same as Jordan and then started doing crazy shit in order to maintain his image when things went wrong. So I get Clark’s concern in that regard
You agree with L&C 50%, when they are worried about a potential Homelander situation? I'd like to hear the logic that went into that calculation. Also, Clark was an adult, with a plan and cover identity, in a city far from his hometown when he revealed himself. Jordan is ignoring consequences like... well like a teenager playing around without using protection.
2 very different situations and is practically useless to compare. When Clark went public, he had done years of training at the fortress, there wasn't that much enemies certainly none that held a grudge against him and he didn't have any dependants on him except possibly his mum. Clark now has a whole gallery of villains and a powerless wife and son to think about. Jordan messes up too badly he could reveal his identity which puts Jon in dangerous situations and robs Jon the chance of a normal life. As well as Jordan's recklessness could cost innocent citizens their lives as he is unwilling to go through the proper training programmes as he starts throwing a hissy fit over them. Not to mention the DoD already don't trust Superman and were experimenting with his blood, imagine if they find out human and kryponian dna is compatible and start experimenting on Jordan cause Jordan is much weaker than Clark so could easily be captured. Jordans being a teenager and not thinking of potential risks but only potential rewards and himself. Clark and Lois are rightfully thinking of the family as a whole and potential risks
"They say everyone's born a hero. But if you let it, life will push you over the line until you're the villain. Problem is, you don't always know that you've crossed that line..." -- Jessica Jones
Superman supposed to say “boy you do that again I’ll throw you to the next moon” 😂
Man you can feel the tension between Clark and Jordan almost like how Bruce (Batman) and Dick’s (Robin) relationship was
More like Bruce and his son Damian
@@AnimeFreak10000 Then why did Dick quit from being Robin ?
Which version
Jordan is just basing his behavior on how Superman has acted Jordan's entire life. Clark has never really understood that he is supposed to be setting an example to his sons, and the example he is setting is one of somebody who does what he pleases, and then lies to cover it up.
more like damian
The moment Jordan found out why he is called superboy and who really is the Superman in the house
The fear in Jordans eyes when he used his powers on his dad. Love it so much!
That wasn’t fear & that’s the problem
Agreed. That was more defiance than fear.
@@Averywhitehalleverything about that moment screams red flag for so many reasons all season Jordan has been distancing himself from the human condition & that’s the difference between him and Clark! Clark wants to be human Jordan doesn’t! He wants to be admired and loved maybe even worshiped a little much like the bizzaro Jonathan was and that’s dangerous & my worry is that after the death of Superman Jordan will completely shut himself off from feeling to fill in for his father and go after lex because next season I don’t think we will see Clark for the first few episodes so during that time I could see a reign of SuperBoy type storyline
@@QuEsT_X It was. He realized he just crossed the FAFO line.
@@QuEsT_X I just hope Jordan won’t do anything reckless
Jordon really chose the wrong time to go public with lex out of prison and if he finds out hes Lois and Clark’s son he’s gonna work out Clark is superman
Jordan has no idea that Lex is out. His parents keep him and Jon in the dark about everything they're up to even though they promised total transparency. I guess they lied about that too.
And don't forget, Junior could also get put in danger for trying to find out Jordan's identity.
@@omarcogle1965 No one's going to care about Jr. He doesn't know anything, so why would they target him at all?
@@thescream18 Think of him like how Chloe was on the earlier seasons of Smallville, trying to deep dive into the truth until it wound up getting them into trouble.
@@omarcogle1965 I vaguely remember Smallville, but she was one of his best friends and much closer to Clark than Jr. is to Jordan or Clark. The biggest risk and potential for him finding out is Sarah's connection with him, and I suppose Jordan's recent photo shoot.
This is what the show needs more brotherly moments like this between Jordan and Jonathan.
This show sucks. Tom welling didn’t reprise his role and didn’t wear his suit. Clark and Jordan relationship reminds me of Soldier Boy and Homelander.
@@rickyhuynh4641 what kind of analogy is that 💀
That argument right there Jordan have with his father is like a similar argument Bizarro Jonathan had with his Bizarro father. Now Jordan in this one is acting like Bizarro Jonathan and that made Bizarro Lois divorce Bizzaro Clark and eventually, that made Bizarro Clark go insane and lose his humanity.
Both cases being the result of self-centered parenting.
Jordan has no right to yell at his father. Clark is trying so hard to keep him out of trouble as well as Lois because they have experience with these kind of things.
Yeah, but when you think about it it's also kinda hypocritical for Clark especially to yell at Jordan about doing his heroics in secret considering how on his very 1st day in Metropolis, Clark immediately revealed himself as Superman to the public and interacted with the kid he saved (just like how Jordan interacted with the people he saved from the tornado). Considering how Jordan's been doing his hero work in secret for the past few months, it's kinda unfair for everyone to hold Jordan to such a high standard considering compared to Clark, Jordan's hid his heroics from the public eye for much longer.
@@envoyeli2892 Does not matter, he’s being arrogant about it. He’s feeding his own ego. Clark never did that with the kid. Also if you listen to what Sam says someone could start to put things together and eventually find out where they live and possibly revealing who he is as well as his father. He also completely disobeyed his parents. Another thing is that Jordan is still a kid, Clark was an adult when he first revealed himself to the public. Jordan had no right to disobey his parents and there is no justifying his behavior.
No, Clark has FAILED repeatedly to protect the boys from deadly danger! He also struts around Smallville as Superman so frequently that it's implausible that people who have known him their whole lives don't recognize that Clark has the exact same face (even facial hair), eyes, hairstyle, physique, and voice! The writing this season is just plain bad!
@@daniels7907actually Clark didn’t do anything wrong here
@@Batman-lg2zj - Yes he did. He's on Jordan's case for doing exactly what HE did when he was a teenager, disobeying his mother and playing superhero around town! Lana even commented on all the weirdness that used to go on when they were teens because Clark refused to not play hero.
Clark also seems to have forgotten that when he made his own public debut he wasn't even wearing a mask. Those glasses must be Kryptonian tech, because otherwise it's utterly unbelievable that his secret identity has held up in an age of facial recognition tech.
It’s crazy how people wanna defend Jordan and is blind to what is happening. It’s not that he wants to be seen, he wants praise and doesn’t actually care about the people
Madness is the hatred that people like you have for this character. That is not true. If she didn't care about helping people, she would use her powers for her own benefit and until now she only used them to save people.
@@KeylaCar_06 I dislike his attitude I don’t hate the character. That’s just how I see him coming across.
He really didn't seem that way though? I don't know why the show decided to start claiming he just wants praise. Maybe he's starting to enjoy the attention a little, but that seems pretty realistic for a kid his age who can do what he can.
-He seemed like he was almost panicking at the idea of being seen saving Sarah and Jr. when he called his dad back and said they needed to talk. That doesn't sound like someone who wants praise.
-He said the hero sounded pretty badass to him ONCE at school in a way in a moment when people were mocking the hero. To me, that seemed to me to be way more defensive and like he was deflecting during a conversation that was uncomfortable to him.
If the show wanted me to think Sarah was justified in complaining to her mother about Jordan 'bragging' at school, then I needed a lot more than just that one scene. If he had been going around to kids and talking about how awesome he thought the hero was and how maybe it was someone they knew etc but he wasn't.
-The selfies were not a huge deal. Superman himself has done interviews and been on television. I don't understand the issue they're taking with the world knowing Jordan exists.
I'm sorry if you see it differently, but I really don't think this part of the show was executed well.
@@colettec5614 "I don't understand the issue they're taking with the world knowing Jordan exists."
I haven't watched all the show, so I can't judge the rest of the comment, but what is not to get? Superman takes selfies around the world, not in his hometown. A young and dumb country kid rightfully deduced his hometown from two videos: think about what a clever person could figure out. Jordan is pretty much putting the entirety of Smallville in danger for a little recognition, because as he said, "I just didn't care." Sure, it's understandable coming from a naïve teen, but is in no way acceptable from a responsible perspective and is exactly the type of behavior to create more men like Lois' father.
Jordan doesn’t even care all he’s doing is viewing his parents as the bad guys which is a typical teenager thing to do.
There’s a thin line, I see both sides they wanna protect Jordan but he’s also reaching that age where he’s really becoming his own person who wants to make his own decisions. In a year or 2 he’ll be 18 so all they can do is support his decisions & help him navigate his decisions to the best of their ability without trying to hold him to this crazy standard that even Clark didn’t stick too
Right! I mean Clark revealed himself immediately to the public as Superman on his very 1st day in Metropolis and yet he's mad at Jordan for interacting with the people he saved just like how he interacted with the kid he saved from the falling car, heck Clark has even done a live television interview as Superman and yet he's mad at Jordan for taking selfies.
@@envoyeli2892that’s not the point . Jordon might have saved lives but he was becoming reckless.
@@Batman-lg2zj - Which is why Clark should be bringing him along on these kinds of things to teach him how to be Superboy. Like a Boomer parent, Clark tries to delegate Jordan's training to technology (holo combat sims instead of TV) and gets mad at Jordan when he messes up on things he was never trained to do. Clark doesn't even devote a moment's thought to the boys' futures. Heck, he didn't even devote any thought to what Intergang was doing with Bizarro's body!
@@daniels7907 he does care about their futures and he didn’t Jon to be a junky to have powers and he didn’t want the boys doing stuff to get into trouble . Obviously you don’t pay attention to anything . I’m sorry to say this but Clark is a good father and he doesn’t want Jordon to get into trouble or having his identity exposed .
@@Batman-lg2zj - You're confusing what Clark "wants" versus what he actually *does* to address these issues. He's actually *not* a very good father. For example, *nobody* ever said that Jordan's mental illness problems were *ever* resolved. Clark just wasn't interested in them anymore. Likewise, Jonathan's issues escaped Clark's attention because he just expected Jon to be the "easy" child.
Clark (and Lois) tend to address problems once it's already too late. I mean come on, Clark can't even spring for a pair of magic glasses for Jordan?
Jordan should’ve flown away the minute he landed so it’s fair for Clark and Lois to be mad but at the same time Jordan is reaching the age where Clark and Lois need to start letting him make his own decisions. Plus Clark revealed himself on the very first day of him being superman when he have that kid his cap back he could’ve flown away but he didn’t so it’s unfair for them to be pissed at Jordan for doing what Clark did on his first day plus Jordan had goggles and a hat to hide his identity.
Well he’s acting childish just because he can do what he wants doesn’t mean he gets to do whatever he wants
@@gabrielsouto5869 - There's more to it than that. Clark and Lois know perfectly well that Jordan has Social Anxiety Disorder, and they *should* have noticed that he doesn't seem to have *any* friends. So of course he's seeking attention and approval. Clark is supposed to be teaching Jordan, but like some Boomer parent he's been delegating that to technology (the holo combat sims in the Fortress) rather than teaching Jordan equally important skills like how to deal with the public.
One of the worst sins of parents is leaving their kids to figure out life on their own, only to turn around and complain that they got it wrong. Clark and Lois are extremely guilty of this one.
@@daniels7907But that's the thing as well Jordan isn't careful with the secret. He's bragging about and Sam even says if people in town which Jr is already doing btw, puts two and two together as well as track his flight paths it's only a matter of time. Kyle was able to do it just my measuring how all the weird stuff started happening as shown as the Kent's moved back to smallville. It's not hard
@@dimensionzone8048 - Yes, and do you not grasp how STUPID that writing is?
*CLARK* is even less cautious than Jordan! His "secret identity" is a pair of glasses. His Superman costume leaves his face in full view. He keeps showing up in Smallville as Superman since Clark Kent moved back there, was flying into and out of the house before Jordan even could fly, and tempts fate by showing up as Superman around people who have known him their whole lives.
The ONLY reason he hasn't been exposed is because the writers seem to think it's still the 1930's. This is a case of Informed Wrongness where Clark actually plays a LOT more fast and loose with his secret identity than Jordan does. But we're supposed to regard Jordan (hooded and masked) as somehow exposing himself less than Clark, who has the same face, hair and even voice as Superman - all on open display!
@@daniels7907that is a load of bull. Learning things on my own? It did wonders for me.
For people saying Clark is being hypocritical, Clark planned to go public when he went to metropolis. Clark was an ADULT when he went public. Jordan is an ADOLESCENT. He has no plan or alter ego. He is a teenager wanting attention and validation more than saving lives.
Also at the time Clark didn't have much villains or even a life to protect. Clark over the years has gathered many enemies making it a lot more dangerous for Jordan or by extension Jon. Clark now also has a career, wife and kids. 2 very different situations as well as Clark trained at the fortress for years, Jordan threw a hissy fit at a training session cause he didn't like the type of training.
What a crock.
i'll never understand the 'hypocrite' thing
not wanting your child to make the same errors as you is not hypocritical (even though the situations are different)
@@namishjain9238 Well the thing is it comes off that way when you try to high road them on it. The first step to avoiding the hypocrisy is to admit those mistakes you made in the first place. The other person needs to know you were in their shoes once and understand that while you made that mistake, you learned from it. Instead of acting like you got it right the whole time. If you've ever seen Modern Family, Claire and Hailey are the best examples of this sort of issue.
Love this show the writing keeps me coming back
I’m working on a video essay that will premiere after the finale. I’ve had to go back and re-watch episodes to make it. I recently rewatched 1x01 and the moment at 1:17 parallels the moment in ep 1 where Jordan is telling Clark he’s not Superman because they know what Superman looks like. It’s a full circle moment. From anger at not knowing the truth to a lack of care over the secret.
Because the secret has failed, repeatedly, to protect the boys from deadly danger. Supervillains show up at their house! But Clark, who used to openly disobey Martha and play superhero around town, and hypocritically angry that Jordan isn't buying into his "normal life" lie. And Clark lies so much that it's laughable that "truth" is one of the virtues associated with Superman!
I understand he likes the attention but being irresponsible like this is very dangerous someone is going to find out who he is and will put Johnatan and Lois in danger specially with Lex going out
Only because of bad writing. Seriously, Clark swans around Smallville openly as Superman and we, the audience, are supposed to believe that a pair of glasses hides his identity from people he's known his whole life (just because that idea worked in the 1930's). Jordan at least wears a hood and a mask.
Clark already seems to have forgotten that if Jordan hadn't interrupted Peia and the Intergang thugs with Kryptonite lasers then he would be DEAD right now. I would love to see how Lois would have covered up Clark disappearing at the same time Superman died!
@@daniels7907 well that’s true I only have the feeling that Jordan is doing this because Sarah broke his heart
@@LCNighthawk - True. Also, his Social Anxiety Disorder means that he doesn't really have any friends. That Clark and Lois haven't figured this out causes me to once again wonder how they ever held jobs as investigative journalists.
@@daniels7907 his only friend is his brother that’s the problem Jordan like you said has problems to socialize with his disorder something we haven’t seen in the last seasons
@@LCNighthawk - He briefly connected with some of the football team when he played, but he didn't seem to form any lasting friendships once he was off the team. His parents are so used to this that they haven't considered the negative implications. But they should have. There is nothing healthy about a 16 year old whose only "friends" are his brother and his ex.
I’m with Lois & Clark on this one- Jordon looks like he’s in it more for the Fame & Attention than saving lives by wanting them to see him
Why are people so obsessed with reasons? Who cares, so long as lives are saved?
@@kathrynhoward4196 I think the worry is that Jordan might care more about being seen than helping people. I know his family is mainly worried about him accidentally revealing who they are.
Making Jordan pause his hero work is actually the right decision because he has been using it as a distraction from what is going on in his life with Sarah and he needs time to himself to grow as a person. I am not gonna lie, if I was a superhero I would mainly be doing it to distract myself from my problems rather than trying to resolve them.
Can't imagine Omni-Man letting that shit slide. Clark's gotta step it up. Maybe an asswhooping or two will get to him.
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That will just make it worse
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Clark doesn't hit his kids. And an "ass whooping" is the laziest kind of parenting there is.
he should train him, you mean?
Jordan will be a potential super villain
The reason he's acting this way is because he likes the attention. All his life he's been under his brother's shadow, now he finally has the spotlight and being in the spotlight for someone who never had that can be a huge addiction.
Jordan's going to know first-hand what being a hero means when he meets Luthor next season. That confrontation in the trailer was just awesome
What I don't understand is, can Clark's mom at the fortress create a reality with real consequences of what happens if Jordan went public as himself. I don't understand why Clark didn't make this happen as a teaching lesson.
Look I’m not gonna blame Jordan but he cares about the city much more than he cares about himself I like that I like that a lot he just don’t know it because Clark and Louis start getting mad with him 0:54
The fear on Jordan’s face when Clark yelled, “Hey!” He realized two things at that moment: boys, even teenage boys, fear the wrath of their fathers; and when Superman tells you to do something, YOU DO IT.
1:28 😢 look at him, you can actually see his heart is broken. I wonder if the final season will rein him in or make Jordan worse, I think the former due to fewer episodes sadly.
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. Hoechlin's voice sounded as if Clark was holding back tears.
Let us hope that Jordan doesn’t go on a dark path.
@@anthonypena5046 Its entirely possible, if Clark is temporarily killed by Doomsday and Jordan has to resist the urge to kill Luthor himself
Or turn to the dark side after getting a reprimanding from his parents
@@anthonypena5046Just like Bizarro Jonathan-El was.
Noooo my boy got heart
You know, a part of me thinks that clark is just jealous of Jordan getting more attention then he is. And another part of me that Jordan would say: "oh it's funny you never had a problem using your powers when it benefits you, but when it gives me an advantage you just want to take it away". And clark is just getting in his way.
Clark and Lois have no right to say they are Jordan's parents, not after they put him on crazy pills when in fact there's nothing mentally wrong with him. Jordan was developing super powers at a young age and the parents never bothered to considered that a possibility until Clark decided to reveal his secret identity to his boys.
I wish Junior stop talking about Jordan’s secret. It’s really annoying though.
And what do you think would happen if that got junior killed for trying to find out Jordan's secret.
And nobody's pointing out how ungrateful he is. The guy saved his life. If he wanted Junior (or anyone else) to know who he was, he wouldn't be wearing a disguise. Why is nobody telling Junior to respect the privacy of the guy who saved his ass?
He's an asshole like his dad 😂
Jordan lash out to Clark and Lois. And Clark says to Jordan don't want your help.
Which is an example of Clark being petty. He's supposed to be *teaching* Jordan, not telling him to go away. Then he has the hypocrisy to complain that Jordan isn't an obedient little dog.
@@daniels7907 That was exactly what happened with Bizarro Clark and Bizzaro Jonathan. It eventually lead them to have their family fall apart and led Bizarro Clark to stop having his normal skintone which then turned his body into gray zombie like body. Difference is even Prime Earth Clark goes through the hardships of family and the struggles, there is no sign of Prime Earth Clark losing his mind and turning into a zombie like creature like the Bizarro version. Bizarro Jonathan also don't agree to be an obedient do either so Prime Earth Jordan is behaving like Bizarro Jonathan.
@@hp2546 - That's not actually true. Bizarro Kal-El (not Clark Kent) never had a secret identity in the first place. He was always a celebrity (he even had a publicist). His marriage was never a secret, nor was it a secret when he and Bizarro Lois had children. Like many celebrities, he simply had a big ego.
Bizarro's mental decline likewise had nothing to do with being a public figure. It occurred because he was abusing green Kryptonite to boost his powers, and to cope with his split from his Lois and increasing public demonization by Bizarro Ally and Bizarro Jonathan. Just as X-K bestows powers, but also increases aggression (as shown by Jonathan), Bizarro's sanity deteriorated even as his body visibly mutated from green K abuse. This is also why he didn't see his powers decline under this Earth's yellow sun (as contrasted to his Earth's red sun).
So he's not a good comparison to use here.
Tbh Jordan is learning his powers while Clarke is learning to be a dad. Mistakes will be made, but family doesn’t leave family
@@daniels7907 What I am talking about was the argument Bizarro Kal-El had with Bizarro Jonathan. I never said they had a secret identity. What happened was it was Jonathan's first time putting himself out there to be a hero. Bizarro Jonathan was the one who wanted to put himself out there without approval. That is the part I am referring to. In the prime earth, there were also the part where Prime Earth Jordan planned to put himself out there saving the building or stopping a tornado and that was also without approval. That part is the similarity I am describing. I was not describing any secret identity part. I am only describing the part where they went out saving the world without any parents' approval. Bizarro Jonathan wanted to do his superhero job independently and so did Prime Earth Jordan.
ruclips.net/video/tozQJg4j1Sw/видео.html. If you look at the link, there is an argument happening. They argue about saving the world on their own terms. Prime Earth Jordan had the argument like that with his father about saving the world on his own terms before. In case you forgotten, Prime Earth Jordan had experienced arguing about going out on his own to be a superhero and so did Bizarro Jonathan. So read before making judgement. Don't just assume. Only comparison I am describing is how both have an ego wanting to save the world on their own.
Honestly I’m kinda annoyed this whole season with how everyone is treating Jordan, it’s like everyone blames everything on him when he’s not in the wrong, like when Lane tired to make him get a haircut and then Jordan was blames for it and forced to almost get one, and then with Jon and the fire which Jordan did nothing wrong in and even especially here, Clark is being such a hypocrite when it comes to humility’and secret identities, after he left to fortress he immediately showed himself to the world and did live interviews hung out with fans and a lot worse then Jordan did, and at least Jordan has a mask that covers 90% of his face while clark did all of his stunts without anything to stop people from finding out he’s Clark. And Clark needs to grow up he’s been using every excuse to keep Jordan sheltered and not a hero to the point we’re he’s gonna loose jordan forever, I don’t think he realizes Jordan can just fly away at superspeed and it’s not like anyone can really stop him, Also Both Clark and Lois need to realize there sons are what 16-17 they are becoming adults they aren’t 10 and they need to start treating them like adults and not be so angry and quick to judge stuff and control there every move, they should of know Jordan has anxiety and self worth issues he’s had them his whole life and pretty much felt like an outsider and now he’s actually getting praise for stuff he’s doing of courses he’s gonna feed on that maybe if he got that attention from home or maybe if Clark and Lois tired encourage him to get more then 1 friend he might actually not try to look for validation in the people he saves, but no they wouldn’t even consider that and they will probably make him apologize again for something that isn’t his fault and then give a BS do better or we could be better to line when they go back to high standers next season.
1. Jordan was wrong to insult his grandfather over the mere suggestion of a haircut
2. Clark and Jordans situation is completely different. Clark was an adult and the first superhero without any enemies at the time. Jordan if he goes public would be giving leverage to Clark's enemies and revealing that Superman does in fact have a secret identity. Jordan also has more people dependant on him such as Jon or Lois whilst Clark only had Martha when he started.
3. Clark very much can stop Jordan.
@@Markus2E5I6, 1. With Sam it was less of a suggestion, if it was a suggestion Sam would of just brought up the idea and the let it go when Jordan said no but he didn’t, While Jordan could of handled it better he isn’t the one wrong. Sam should of asked before driving to the Barber
2. Ya it is different but not a lot of ways, Clark does the bare minimum to hide his identity he wears glasses and that’s it, and Clark was doing live interviews and hanging out with his save’s, Jordan never went on the news, and if Jordan goes public it wouldn’t give Clark’s enemies a leverage it wouldn’t be any more of a leverage then when Jon Irons became Steel.
2.5. Ya unlike Clark who went into it alone Jordan doesn’t he has his family plus the Irons to back him up in a fight which makes Jordan being a public hero all the better, John got over his Nat using her suit and being a hero I don’t know why Clark can’t be as supportive of Jordan. And Clark’s been trying to stop Jordan for months from being a hero when everyone told him to lay off and let Jordan be one maybe if Clark was supportive and actually trained Jordan instead of giving him holograms and lasers to fight maybe Jordan wouldn’t be so attention seeking.
3. If Jordan wanted to leave he could Whats clark gonna do lock his own son up it seems like he’s been trying sense this season started
@@ryansweezey1451 1. It was a suggestion if it was being forced Sam would try blackmail or something worse. All he did was drive Jordan to the barber and said he should get a haircut which he should. And yes he is wrong for disrespecting his grandfather over a haircut. Seriously just a haircut. Nothing big.
2. Its different in every way. A lot more risk. Clark doesn't do the bare minimum he does lots of subtle signs such as feigning weakness, being mild and the fact no one thinks superman has a secret identity. Jordan very much is leverage if Clark's enemies find out he has a less experienced and less powerful son to pick off especially if the sons fragile and mentally unstable. It would cause commotion in the DoD, public and his enemies if it comes out he has a son. This isn't like the dc comics where heroes are wide and everywhere in this universe its mostly just Clark, JHI and the DoD.
2.5 Nat shown to be 10x more mature than Jordan as well as she already went through war on her earth. Jordan blows up over a haircut he needs maturity first. Clark didn't stop him he was training him. And what happened with the training? Jordan once again whines and complains about it. He's not ready he wants it for fame and isn't willing to put the work in. As well as Nat doesn't have a powerless mother or brother to look out for. Only person she has to worry about is her dad who can handle himself.
4. Anywhere Jordan can try to run to Clark could get their faster and force him home it very much is just that Clark is too good of a guy to think of that.
@@Markus2E5I6 Sam was trying to force him and for stupid reasons. Out of 20 million + young Caucasian males with curly hair, someone is going to figure out that it's him. Highly unlikely. Sam just hates Jordan's hair and used it as an excuse to force it on him. Maybe Jordan loves his hair and he needed to stand his ground. He could have said it better, but he shouldn't let people force him to do anything he doesn't want to.
If Clark has a way to hide his identity, then he should teach it to Jordan. He should teach him how to avoid being tracked too. For Jordan to be used as leverage, people would first have to make a connection between the two of them. They would have to know that's his son or find out both of their secret identities.
Jordan is impatient yes, but Clark could do a better job at preparing him for dangerous situations instead of just hitting him with lasers to prove a point. He could have handled that lesson so much better. Was Jordan supposed to know that Clark had armed the wall to shoot lasers? Was he supposed to see it and dodge? What was the point of that besides making Jordan feel weak. Jordan's powers have been growing by leaps and bounds and if it continues, he will reach his father's power level despite what Jor-El said 2 seasons ago. It's already been discredited by the simple fact that Jordan has almost all of his powers and has full control over them, and is potentially immune to green Kryptonite. Jor-El was wrong.
Clark has been so focused on Lois and her illness, Bruno and Peia, the Gazette, and now Lex that he hasn't made any time for either of the boys or Jordan's training. It seems like Jordan made more progress training with Sam Lane than his own father.
Nat is very smart and mature for her age, but she isn't perfect either. She doesn't have emotional issues to contend with. She has more than her father to worry about. She cares about the Kents and now Matteo and she would protect them if she needs to.
@@thescream18 Again it wasn't forced or even an attempt at force. He was trying to persuade him but don't go throwing around words like force when there was no force and it wasn't for stupid reasons. Beyond Jordan seriously needing a haircut it a very recognisable hairstyle especially if you see Jordan everyday just like how Junior figured out the hero is someone from smallville in smallville that hairstyle is in the minority. As well as being a hero means doing the hard things, Jordan couldn't even be bothered to get a haircut.
His villains are going to connect the dots between 2 kryptonians especially if ones a teenager. They would guess either Morgan edges son or Kal's. And since he would be seen with superman they'll connect the dots. Superman having a son reveals he does have an identity he keeps from the public thus endangering his family. Just for some selfies.
When I said that nat just had her dad to worry about I meant if enemies look at her from an outside perspective she just has JHI as no one would know of her and the Kents relationship as well as Matteo was a very recent addition and his family was the one causing trouble so he was safe. As well as for the fact that Nat actually does keep her identity safe and doesn't get emotional or try to seek validation at the cost of her loved ones safety.
As for the training thing. The whole point was that its supposed to be unfair. Jordan once again got cocky and was hit with a stray laser. Cause guess what? This isn't a game. Villains will suckerpunch you and try to kill you. They don't care about being fair. Clark even told him that but Jordan once again got emotional, insulted his father (becoming a recurring pattern with him) then went home crying about it like a baby over training. If he can't handle training whats he going to do with the real thing? Start throwing a tantrum in a middle of a fight. And yes he was supposed to see it and dodge he was supposed to stay alert and not let his guard down.
They should be proud of jordan
They treat you like a baby Jordan because you ACT like a baby. A spoiled child wanting attention and throwing a tantrum when he doesn't get it
Some teenagers acting like baby sometimes.
it's all fun and games till luthor gets him a kryptonite prostate exam
It was established that kryptonite doesn't affect Jordan because of his human DNA
Johnathan and Jordan are being brave and tough as teen titans. Also they are being even with their parents clark and lois
In Episode 6 Season 3 Jordan got mad because the program at the fortress was shooting him with lasers but Clark was just tryna prepare him but instead of listening Jordan storms off and doesn't let his dad explain he did that in pilot season 1
I mean he’s a teenager what do they expect he’s literally going to defy them that’s dang nere his job
i love it🙏🏽😂
Me to
Aww poor Superman got his arm pushed away 😂
By his own son, the last person he expected
Compared to why and how Clark saves lives its clear Jordan tried to go public for all the wrong reasons
Sam shouldn’t even be speaking, I cannot stand him!!
“So what”? “Whatever” Yanking his arm off his father? This boy better ducking watch himself!!! I can’t take this stupid kid anymore; I am getting fed up with his disrespect!
Respect is a two-way street. I think he would respect them more if they listened to him instead of yelling and barking orders.
@@thescream18 he should be listened to but that is being a lot harder with him disobeying their orders.
Clark would never do that to his dad when he was Jordan's age.
fr like no matter what my dad did, i'd never try to do something like that
(also tyler looks a lot and behaves like my dad in this show lol.....my dad and i both agree)
@@thescream18 bruh lois and clark show him more respect than fking jon lol the reason why jordan is so childish is becaose they are to soft with him for real
Maybe they should try talking to him instead of yelling at him but he is being straight up disrespectful acting entitled
They did try talking to him about this same issue earlier in the episode. Pretty sure it was the same day. You only get so much talking before it turns into yelling
@@RavenPendragon14 they didn’t talk to him they were reprimanding him for not being responsible
@@gabrielsouto5869he was he is literally placing targets on their backs just for validation he is hurting okay that's fine but having their enemies go to their door is making things waay worse clark was an adult when he revealed his secret hell even spiderman didn't want his secrect revealed u know WHY because he wanted to protect the people he cared about and to have his privacy and he lost EVERYTHING due to that who's to say that can't happen to jordan....
@@janderson947 I agree I’m saying instead of yelling going back and forth or going dictator like this they should try talking to each other like parent and son
@@gabrielsouto5869 Clark was going to until jordan squared up at him that's when clark hot on the defense when jordan seemed like he wanted to hit him in front of his grandad if jordan would have heard him out then he would have understood do u know how many times clark was bullied alot but jordan doing it for validation then if they took lois for ransom then what I know shouting wasn't helping but I get clarks point he told him why when he first got his powers it can be dangerous but jordan due to getting in his feelings he is being reckless...
Jordan almost got a fist through his chest. Powerful scene right there.
No, he didn't. Clark wasn't going to hit his kid. Don't be so dramatic.
Jordan really has been the worst (no offence to the actor )
But during the series he
- resented Clark for being the way he was with his anxiety issues
- hated Clark for keeping his powers secret
-whined and moaned about having to hide his powers
- use his powers to give him an advantage in football (a sport he did not even care about until he got powers )
- now hates his parents for not being able to tell his secret or be what he feels is a hero
He resented Clark for not being there for him as a father. He was being bullied had anxiety and emotional issues and he needed his dad around. All he was told was that Clark was away on business and was never told the real reason, so to Jordan it looks like Clark finds work more important than him.
The boys should have been told sooner because it directly impacts their lives especially when Jordan develops powers. There are theories that his powers were developing sooner than when they arrived in Smallville, which could very well be the case.
No one wants to be lied to for their entire lives. Even Jon was angry about being lied to. Are you forgetting that? Clark and Lois promised to be transparent and not lie to them anymore, but are still keeping them in the dark about what they're up to, even about how sick Lois is. How do you trust someone when they constantly lie to you. There are times when the boys have not told their parents the truth, but they're learning by their parents example.
Jordan wants to belong and to fit in with other kids his age. He said so himself in episode 6 of season 1. He thought that the powers would bring him closer to people. He wasn't able to do that before. You're also forgetting that Jon did the same thing but with super drugs. And he also got the whole football season cancelled. You can't say that Jordan did that. He had the decency to bow out when his powers got too strong.
He's not out there blurting that he has powers, is related to superman, or is masquerading as the Smallville Samaritan. He's not exposing the family secret to the whole world. I don't know why people are so intent on believing that he's only doing it for fame and glory when he has shown so much heart and compassion since he started saving people in season 2. He never asked for thanks once, but when he acts out one time, you call his character the worst.
brendonself you saved their lives that's
The Smallville Samaritan, I much prefer that over Superboy.
Same. Suberboy is such a bad name.
Wish Jonathan could’ve been Superboy if he has real powers.
The wrong brother got the powers please writers give John powers. Jordan's mentally unstable better be glad he's not full Kryptonian
He wants reasons not just because we say so. No teenage wants just because I said so or our house our rules.
get a life lol you must be like 14 for real lol here his was attention like fking homelnader he dont care about the people he save he cares about the cloud
For the last couple of episodes of season 3 of Superman and Lois, I found Jordan to be very annoying. When Jordan keeps revealing himself like this, he would risk not only his identity being revealed, he would expose his father’s identity in the process. Jordan was being immature and selfish.
If they didn't like Jordan going out public is a hero then what was the point of giving him goggles and a hat to disguise himself then like Clark did same thing when he was a kid
What a hypocrite 😒😒
They gave him that suit to conceal his identity while doing heroics. But you’re kinda defeating the purpose of the suit when you’re allowing yourself to be seen by everyone and their moms. No hypocrisy, Clark and Lois are right here.
@@alexdorisca - No they're not. Clark struts openly around Smallville as Superman so frequently that the entire idea of his secret identity holding up is blatant writer fiat. IRL, facial or voice recognition tech would identify Superman as Clark Kent easily. Yet the writers have all these characters making stupid statements about how "low key" Clark is. Like when he blatantly used super strength in the diner on Candice's father!
@@daniels7907 exactly my point now Jordan gonna think everybody's against him and I feel bad for him, he just wanna feel important
@@jbjigga7045 - This is another case of Clark and Lois being so disconnected as parents that they didn't see this coming. They KNOW that Jordan doesn't really have friends, which is why he was so attached to Sarah. But they don't understand why this would be a problem. Because Clark gets to bask in glory all the time as Superman, and has literally done so since his first public appearance. But, like too many parents, he has forgotten what it felt like when he was young, disobeying his mother to go play superhero around Smallville.
Right, they're allowing him to go out and do superhero things, but they expect for him to never be seen. It makes no sense. I can understand not hanging around after, but to expect no one to witness him in action is ridiculous. He has a disguise and they can teach him about the fight path thing and how to avoid being tracked. The answer to their problem is teach him, not yelling at him about being irresponsible.
Plus he told Clark that he was spotted, why are they acting surprised there.
I hate this writing, they are creating and issue that is a none issue for Clark but somehow is for Jordan, why not make him a suit, give him the glasses excuse and move on, if he had an Alias “Superboy” he wouldn’t need to feel like he isn’t getting recognized because he’s superboy and Jordan, I hate this show for it’s poor writing when it comes to its plot driven conflicts,
John Did nothing wrong when he killed that guy, Lex should have been freed but it shouldn’t have been in there control because now I can only blame them for freeing there worst enemy,
The cancer arc was depressing, Sarah is annoying, Nat is Annoying, The Boys are Annoying, I’m completely losing interest in this because I can’t stand logically moral fallacies that are just ridiculous.
Why cant clark create a suit for Jordan similar to his blue and red and reveal to the world that he is his son, without revealing his identity
does Lana Lang’s daughter Sara know Jordan has super powers?
Yeah at this point of the series Sarah knows Jordan has superpowers.
@@superrenai9338 is that Jordan in the scuba diving suit?
@@graciela4881 Yeah that’s Jordan.
@@superrenai9338 and everybody knows who Jordan is after he used the scuba diving suit to save them?
@@graciela4881 No not many know it’s Jordan only his parents and Grandfather figured it out knowing he has his powers I believe.
Anyone else got flashbacks to the S2 Bizarro Jonathan-El storyline? Sad that it is kinda repeating itself, though I don't see this going completely in that direction.
It reminds me of my fan made character for the Amazon show the boys. The character is known as Jackson Walker also known as The Liberator. He was the real Soldier Boy he fought in WWII with the 101st Airborne Division he even fought in an eagle's nest and he was one of the troops who fought at the Battle of the Bulge and at the Battle of Berlin. The worst thing was his rotten cousin stole the spotlight from him and called himself Soldier Boy. But his superiors knew that Jackson was the real hero but he didn't view himself as a hero he viewed himself as a person who wanted to fight for his country but he also fought out of vengeance because in his background story he was the victim of the Dachau concentration camp because that's where he lost his parents and family and friends at the hands of Frederick Vought and Stormfront the very people that his family once trusted until they betrayed his family and gave him over to the Nazis so they can have a place in the Fatherland. He escaped from Dachau in early 1940 managed to escape through occupied France saved by a British Navy ship and returned who is hometown in Philadelphia we are his uncle got word of his return. In 1942 he got enlisted in the Army after the Japanese destroyed Pearl Harbor and he escaped with vials of compound V on the day he escaped from Dachau. In the spring of 43 he volunteered for compound V with the greatest results he became virtually indestructible and he was the person who killed Frederick in 1974 by 2021 he killed Fredericks wife Stormfront and now he wants vengeance on homelander for killing his son and daughter-in-law and the civilians on flight 37 and he wants to kill homelander because the psychopath violated his granddaughter Rebecca butcher. This isn't somebody who wants to fight for fame anymore he wants to kill people who claim to be superheroes when all they want to do is fight for themselves and fight for very selfish and vile reasons that's why he's going after the remaining members of the seven by exposing them and then killing them. He joined the boys and he wants to help his grandson in-law by giving him compound V so that he can live. And on the day that homelander is dead will be the day when Jackson decides to show himself to the world and finally walks away from that life forever and he also decides to move on. He owes it all to Queen Maeve and the true reason that he wanted to save her it's because she reminded him of his wife.
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Uma serie promissora, mas vai terminar na próxima temporada por causa de cortes no elenco.
Jordan reminds me of Robin Speedy & Beast-Boy from Teen Titans 2003 Series when they have A Strained Relations With Their Mentors Like BATMAN Green Arrow and Doom Patrol.
Although When Jordan Arguing with his Parents Clerk Should Say
Jordan:So What Your Rules U telling what I can Be I'm Tired of It.
Clerk Kent/Dad:As Long IF You Lived under this roof you gonna do what your mother and I tell U to do otherwise I SEND BATMAN & DARKSEID And The Justice Lords Especially My Counterpart Lord Superman ON YOU Do You UNDERSTAND!!!
Jordan:WHATEVER I Gonna lived with The Teen Titans Anyway & The Flash.
"You go up to your room and do not come out until we tell you to, and don't you EVER do that to me again."
Just makes me laugh 🤣🤣 Third time overall Clark told Jordan to go to his room 😂😂😂
Could’ve been worse, Jordan might’ve yelled out “I hate you” to both Clark and Lois.
@@anthonypena5046 Would've made it even funnier 😄 Ever since the "I hate you!" bit between Nathan Lane and Lee Evans in MouseHunt
I fail to see why you would find this funny.
@@anthonypena5046 It sometimes reminds me of "You just sent the most powerful being in Westeros to bed without his supper" 😅
The only thing that gripes me about this show is how dumb the kids act bro
Even tho Jordan is wrong, I think its very hypocriet of Clark. I mean superman wasnt even really in metropolis and he was already known from the start. Saving the boy and talking to him. At least Jordan wears a mask. Superman doesn't even that. I'm still wondering why it took Kyle so long to figure out who Clark was. Clark and Superman are practically twins! Search the difference doesn't have a lot differences. A glass isn't enough to hide who you are. And stopping Jordan when he wanted to go to his room, Just to send him to his room? Not very effective
Its not hypocritical its 2 very different situations
Ones an adult purposefully making himself seen to be a beacon of hope
The other is a kid who's supposed to be a secret making himself seen for fame.
Not to mention Jordan has a lot of vulnerable people (Jon, Lois, Cushings) and could be used as leverage against Clark enemies that wouldn't have existed when Clark first started out
And on top of that by doing that Clark was making things worse
If I was Superboy I'll do I'll want F Clark and Lois
Jordan did too much. Ugh, Jordan.... It's not yet right time, bro. 🤦
When Clark at your age, kinda reckless too and he didn't want repeat history itself again. So please Jordan hold for awhile. 🤦
Clark's hypocrisy in full force, yet again. Did the DoD recover Bizarro? No! Did Clark even *remember* that they stole his body (along with a lot of other dangerous stuff) while he was distracted feeling sympathetic for the Mannheim's? No! Now Lex Luthor is showing up at the farm, the latest in a series of supervillains who come directly to their family home! Clark is acting like a Boomer parent. He's making unbelievably stupid mistakes that endanger his family's LIVES and he's more concerned about maintaining his authority over his kids. If I were Jordan I would blow Clark's secret wide open to the public and call him out on two decades of LIES! It's not as if the family isn't already in deadly danger because of Clark's selective attention span. Because4 I strongly suspect that Clark is going to need Superboy's backup next season, as Luthor isn't going to play nice with Superman.
I said the same thing about him being a hypocrite like he can do but Jordan can't
@@jbjigga7045 - And did do when he was younger. He used to disobey Martha to go play hero all the time, and he still revels in the praise he gets as Superman. Which is why he appears in public so often.
@@daniels7907 yea and nobody recognizes him
@@jbjigga7045 - Which is bad writing. Period. The whole idea may have worked in the 1930's through the 1960's when men wore suits and hats in public, but we live in 2023 and facial recognition technology is a real thing and cameras can be small enough to put everywhere. This is a case where a character is right only because the show's writers say that they are. But what they depict is flat out unbelievable.
Jordans actively endangering their lives if he reveals superman has a family. 2 decades of lies where? Clark isn't obliged to reveal everything about himself and the boys aren't 20. And revealing that your supermans son and his wife is Lois with a powerless son is a very smart move, no way the government won't try to take Jon to experiment on how to make kryptonian-human hybrid soldiers. Thats just unbelievably stupid and reckless. Not to mention all of Clark's villains attacking you and your powerless family. Very smart all cause he told you to go to your room.
This is when you realize that Lois and Clark shouldn't be parents. Public exposure was inevitable and they could have prepared him for it. And Clark saying he didn't need help when he clearly didn't, is so ridiculous to me. They don't want Jordan to be a superhero but they let you delude yourself believing that he could be. Pure hypocrisy.
Then you think just like an irresponsible teenager instead of an adult with responsibilities. Do you understand the dangerous his putting himself in at least when Clark revealed himself to the world he had full control of his abilities and he also was much older and wiser than a teenager who doesn't understand the risk
It's pretty damn clear you don't understand the term "responsibility"
Another person bashing Superman and calling him a hypocrite for trying to tell Jordan he needs to keep a low profile.
Jordan is an immature teenager who is only doing "hero" business for fame.
Everyone can see that.
Public exposure is inevitable but how you handle it is what matters.
Jordan just wants to bask in it and pump himself up.
Jordan has no room for argument.
If he did the heroic act and disappeared after, his parents wouldn't be coming down on him.
True greatness does not need to prove itself.
I'll bet the whole world is going to know superboy exists. I think Jordan should quit being a superhero and someone should forget that Jordan became Superboy.
Will Brainiac make any appearance in this Superman?
Who knows there will be a fourth season but they'll have a lesser budget.
@@superrenai9338 what’s a lesser budget?
@@joeljr.5286 That the fourth season gets less money so some characters will get less time in the fourth season. So that makes it a bit more unlikely Brainiac will make an appearance during the fourth season.
@@superrenai9338 uh man
I was hoping Darkseid would appear in the show.
Another reason why jonathan should have been the one that got the powers
oops spoilers I'm a season behind. I waiting till show ends and gone watch it from start to finish.
That's why jordan is not from the comics
This is bs; Superman was always chasing clout
If they weren't on TV Clark would've smacked him
Wrong. Clark doesn't hit his kids
Jordan is definitely in the wrong, and Jonathan somewhat sympathizing with him isn't helping matters.
Jon’s being Jon helping someone when they need it
I think it’s kind of cool how he is kind of like the grandfather that he is named after
Jordan should blow Clark's secret identity because it isn't doing jack to protect their family from the supervillains that keep showing up at the house. Clark not only parades around Smallville with his face totally uncovered, but he spends so much time there that it's idiotic of the writers to pretend that his secret would survive a single encounter with facial recognition tech. At least Jordan was wearing a hood and goggles, which is more than can be said about Superman when he's standing right next to people he literally grew up with!
@@daniels7907wait but isn’t him revealing his secret identity what caused problems for him in the bizarro Superman world ?
@@Trezzy_beenlit - No. He never had a secret identity there. Bizarro actually bought the Kent farm because he had some kind of transdimensional brainwave and it "felt right", but it wasn't where he grew up. This is why everybody on that Earth knew him as "Kal-El" or "Mr. El".
That he turned into an obnoxious celebrity had more to do with not having had a humble upbringing. So he became a publicity seeker. Also, he wasn't the only Kryptonian living openly on Earth (Tal-Rho was well known too).
This is what Clark doesn't seem to get. Jordan's Social Anxiety Disorder has always meant that he had no real friends. So of course he's suddenly seeking attention after his only "friend", Sarah, treated him like dirt. It doesn't appear to even dawn on Clark, or Lois, that Jordan is desperate for recognition because he's never really had it. Except for his brief stint at football, which didn't last. Clark and Lois are just so used to lying to everybody they know that it doesn't occur to them how hard this is for Jordan.
He is a brat and will get one of them hurt or killed
What episode is this from season 3?
Episode 12
Injustice: Gods Among Us 😄
Okay I can understand where Clark, Lois and Sam are coming from to an extent, but it kinda feels like they're unfairly holding Jordan to an extremely high standard, although I do admit that Jordan's attitude was sorta out of line here. I'm sorry to say so, but everyone's especially Clark's feelings about Jordan going public as Superboy is kinda unfairly too judgmental considering how when Clark first started out as Superman, on his 1st day in Metropolis before he even found a place to live, Clark immediately revealed himself to the world as Superman. Like Lois pointed out in how Jordan could've easily flown away after stopping the tornado, so could've Clark after saving the kid from a falling car, but Clark allowed himself to be seen instead of easily speeding away from the scene and interacted with the kid he saved just like Jordan did. It kinda feels a little hypocritical for Clark to be so mad at Jordan for doing exactly what he did on his very first day and at the very least Jordan waited months before revealing himself as Superboy when Clark revealed himself as Superman on his very first day in Metropolis. It's unfair and I think they could do a better and more gentle approach in understanding Jordan's perspective and getting Jordan to see their perspectives. After all it's not like Jordan was blatantly telling everyone his secret identity, yet everyone is acting like he was.
Facts
Also, Clark used to openly defy Martha and play superhero around Smallville. Lana even commented on all the weird stuff that used to go on (because of Clark). Also, it's getting ridiculous the way that the writers on leaning on a 1930's secret identity. Nowadays, any halfway decent facial recognition would identity Clark and Superman as the same person, glasses or no.
Well, the statement isn’t wrong I would say the main difference between these two is that one, Clark was way more careful than Jordan where while he was doing stuff when he was around the boy’s age he was low key enough that the ENTIRE town just chalked it up to some weird shit happening. Another difference is that when he went public as superman, it was after a young man’s lifetime of figuring out to use his powers with intermediate control, on top of almost a decade of formal training from Jor-El. I agree with Lois and Clark on this one because they’re not saying he can’t ever go public, they’re just saying she has to be very careful about doing so, which this entire season he hasn’t. Not to mention the elephant in the room that I don’t think anyone has addressed yet, he might not be completely doing this for the most noble of reasons; at least not anymore. Almost every time he’s saved someone in the latter half of the season he’s complained that he’s not getting any type of recognition from anyone. I mean let’s face it, Even though Jordan is his son, He’s not the altruistic icon that is Clark Kent. At least not yet. I’m not saying he’s horrible by any means but the writers are writing him as very immature, because that’s what he factually is; an immature kid who is still growing and learning. And I think that’s their main worry, he’s just rushing in not REALLY thinking of the consequences and how they can affect the family. I mean look at what happened with the fire department. Honestly speaking Kyle is the dumbest character on the show, he should not have figured out by any means that anyone from the Kent family was super if it wasn’t for Jordan
@@alexalonzo8965 - Is Clark *really* that humble though? He seems to LOVE appearing in public as Superman, especially when he's just done something awesome like stopping Ally from merging the worlds. There was NO reason for him to land on Main Street, Smallville, just to bask in the adoration of the people he just saved. Even though he really shouldn't be letting people he's known his whole life get a good look at his face!
This is what Clark is missing. His alleged "humility" is phony. He's *enjoyed* being public since his first rescue and his first TV interview with Lois. If he were honest (he isn't) then his costume would hide his face and he wouldn't allow himself to be captured in photos or videos.
Clark is the kind of hypocritical parent who pulls the "do as I say, not as a do" stunt. He's not actually setting a good example as a role model for Jordan, and he's blaming Jordan rather than himself for that.
@@daniels7907exactly Clark if anything Jordan hides his identity better because he hides 90% of his face, it seem at this point Clark is just using any excuse to keep Jordan sheltered and home because he never liked the idea of Jordan going out and never gave good reason why it was always something stupid, and even more so Clark never hid his identity after leaving the fortress he did live interviews and hung out in the crowed a lot and still does, someone should really show clark all those moments so he sees how Jordan isn’t the one in the wrong here
I agree with Lois and Clark 50%. I disagree with the fact that he shouldn’t make himself known bc Clark did the same thing when he was Jordan’s age. But I agree with the fact that he’s doing it for the wrong reasons. It’s easy for things to go completely left morally for a hero with that type of mindset.
This is a pretty extreme example but, at its core, Homelander has the same type of mentality😂he does it mainly for the admiration/love he gets for doing heroic stuff and being a hero in general. Wouldn’t be surprised if he started out the same as Jordan and then started doing crazy shit in order to maintain his image when things went wrong. So I get Clark’s concern in that regard
You agree with L&C 50%, when they are worried about a potential Homelander situation? I'd like to hear the logic that went into that calculation.
Also, Clark was an adult, with a plan and cover identity, in a city far from his hometown when he revealed himself. Jordan is ignoring consequences like... well like a teenager playing around without using protection.
2 very different situations and is practically useless to compare. When Clark went public, he had done years of training at the fortress, there wasn't that much enemies certainly none that held a grudge against him and he didn't have any dependants on him except possibly his mum. Clark now has a whole gallery of villains and a powerless wife and son to think about. Jordan messes up too badly he could reveal his identity which puts Jon in dangerous situations and robs Jon the chance of a normal life. As well as Jordan's recklessness could cost innocent citizens their lives as he is unwilling to go through the proper training programmes as he starts throwing a hissy fit over them. Not to mention the DoD already don't trust Superman and were experimenting with his blood, imagine if they find out human and kryponian dna is compatible and start experimenting on Jordan cause Jordan is much weaker than Clark so could easily be captured.
Jordans being a teenager and not thinking of potential risks but only potential rewards and himself. Clark and Lois are rightfully thinking of the family as a whole and potential risks
Who cares about reasons?
@@kathrynhoward4196
Incorrect mindset
@@HZTenh17g Don't think so highly of yourself.
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Who likes Jordan again.
This is a rel downgrade from the original Jonathan
The original Jonathan is there but he has no powers
well hey superman cant handle his son being a hero can he
Incorrect.
Superman sees his son his only doing this for the fame.
That's what he doesn't like
brendonself zoom 330 see l just dstdn t care