Those two are the kings! No matter if it's a whisper or a roar. Swedes should be proud. A Scania loaded to the limit going uphill puts a smile on my face. I guess it's a matter of taste. I used to drive a 142t and a F12. I liked them both but the v8 sound...
Both of the trucks are great, I built this timber trains, even bigger as 60 ton gross weight, super high end trucks. But personaly I like the sound of the Scania V* engine more.
So it's basically even. The questions *everybody should be asking* however is: 1) How much fuel was used for each truck? Fuel efficiency is very important for trucking companies. 2) How reliable is each truck? How long will it last before something breaks on either truck? When you've add the most fuel-efficient and reliable truck as a factor you'll get a more telling picture of this race.
are both trucks spec the same way aka rear ends and gearing ? cause that plays a factor too . also the v8 versous the straight 6 has a different power ban . there is alot of factors in place before we say this is better than the other .
@@rafailproios4539 No. Those extra 20hp doesn't mean anything in a hill climb. It's the transmission that has to be optimized for it. Compare the Scania in the video vs a Volvo FH750 excavation truck and the excavation truck's transmission has a larger gearing which makes it run on higher rpm.
@@stiigern You do you. Both are 60 tons but are made for 64 tons (at least on Swedish roads). But this is in Norway so I don't really know since that road train combination is quite unique in Norway but most common in Sweden and Finland where they're allowed to weigh 64+ tons.
Deux véhicules extraordinaires par la continuité de leur ascension. Mais le peu d'écart entre les deux peuvent venir du départ au carrefour le premier s'élance sans arrêt alors que le second on lui impose un arrêt complet très cour mais un arrêt complet le peinalisant de quelques secondes qui lui sont fatales. Il aurait fallu un départ arrêté chacun. Quand je pense à mais début, j'avais un TR 280 avec une B 8 en Convoi exceptionnel en 1980 et un remorque italienne verdi....ça paraît une éternité !
These trucks were designed by great Swedish engineering and top technicians. I'm fairly certain none of those engineers looked anything like a viking of the past. Neither did they have a viking as the template for designing them. These great designers and engineers used their great know-how, experience, clever thinking and innovation to design a top product - in this case a truck. Men like Alfred Nobel, Sven Gustaf Wingqvist, Fredrik Ljungström, Gustaf Dalén , Gustav de Laval, John Ericsson, Åke Senning etc etc made Sweden punch way above its weight class with inventions which still are used worldwide today. Their inventions and engineering made the country prosperous. In the industrial age innovation, quality and technical integrity sells products. Skinning the customer for the largest possible profit does not (certain countries do seem to have adapted that model). Btw, designing a powerful truck is fairly easy. The real trick is to make it fuel-efficient, practical (it's designed to pull heavy loads not win races) and reliable. That last part is especially important for trucking companies. Depending on the market trucks live hard lives and need to minimize the time for service and repairs. Speaking of the vikings. Their real strength lied in their longships. Without them they wouldn't have been able to achieve much. Why? Well, for starters the longships had flat bottoms which meant that the vikings could sail really close to the beach and therefore attack places nobody believed could be attacked from the sea. In fact their name "viking" is derived from the norse word for bay (vik). They didn't call themselves vikings and fact is the people they faced had different names for them. The Germans called them Ascomanni (ashmen), Dubgail and Finngail by the Irish, Locklannaich by the Gaels, Dene (comes from "Dane") by the Anglo-saxons, Northmonn by Frisians and Varangians by Slavs and Byzantines. Viking was a title or "trade" for those who did it and the majority of the Scandinavians who stayed home and tended the land, kept livestock and crafted tools weren't vikings in other words. As for the viking longships. Flat bottoms means they were fast too meaning that viking usually approached so fast very few saw them coming and could warn their villages or small towns they were under attack. Almost all European ships at this time had to make harbor at a port in order to land men and equipment. The Vikings simply exploited the hole of undefended coasts nobody would think of attacking from. In the case European warlords wanted to attack coasts their large ships had to stay far from the beaches and their men board smaller landing ships. All this took time and the element of surprise and speed was gone. The vikings simply landed fast with their longships and made shore in no time. Back in the time of manual message delivering it could take a full day before the local king or "vassal" heard his domain had been attacked by vikings and another day to take his troops to the raided town. By that time the vikings had usually left already and moved on to the next target or went back home. Where the vikings couldn't raid - i.e. places where the resistance was too strong with castles, keeps and walled cities - they settled on trade. This too was greatly helped by their longships. Why? Well, these longships could be used to travel on the European rivers as well. In fact the vikings even carried their longships on land to get from one river to another. While other ship traders had to sail all around Europe to get to for instance Constantinople (some vikings became soldiers in the Byzantine army) the vikings simply bypassed all that by sailing on rivers. Until they invented railroads the rivers were the by far best way to carry lots of goods to trade. Last of all their longships were double-ended meaning that they could turn back real fast and row/sail the opposite direction of the situation became difficult. So maybe these trucks are more akin to modern day "longships" rather than the vikings themselves. Fast and can go anywhere. Great for transporting goods long distances.
Should do both in the torque band and then high rpm comparison.. abit hard to compare when we dont know how each driver was driving cause it's only a few seconds difference so I'm guessing different styles of driving
Which equates to about 3% more horsepower, which is negligible in this type of comparison. I don’t know the torque figures for both trucks, but they are effectively producing the same power.
Scania v8 has a much better rpm range of torque. Totals are good but the Volvo peaks torque late and then drops off rapidly Scania peaks earlier and keeps a much more torque thorough the rpm. Ir the power band if you like. A straight 6 with a fuck ton of boost vs a v8 with a long power band 👍
America is full of these Trucks now especially the Volvos.....since the American Truckers started using European Trucks we are now making good money for the first time....smoke emissions ZERO.
Never seen any European truck in America... If you mean Volvo VNL it's a European brand but made in America. Plus while there's Pete, KW, International etc Volvos are not so economic (expensive parts and maintenance costs)... Cabovers ended in America since 80s since they are not comfortable in american roads. I don't know what America you're talking about... What I say is for north America (Canada, USA and Mexico)... But they do use European buses like Scania, Volvo etc...
you mean USA and I know what you mean but is south America they do have scania here in the states we don't have trucks scania only small cars but here the trucks use straight six engines small trucks use V8 some
I use to drive an old 460hp v8 scania in NZ and on the long fairly steep hills could round up a lot of other trucks and that was with 40t of logs on bord
well I lived in NZ most of my life, more logging truck/ trailer roll overs than anywhere else in the world, this is cos it is very easy to get a licence there
I'm from Africa and we hav pretty much every type of trucks here in South Africa from American Chinese European and we hav mountain passes that are about 100 km long to be honest Volvo always out pulls a scania hp to hp we always see Volvo 440 passing a scania g 460 or Volvo 480 passing scania r 500 here Volvo have a good reputation of pulling
In reality depend of many things.This video are a good exemple of what means a v8 with less power but faster uphill.Anyday I prefer a v8 instead a 6 inline.
Most of scania in Africa are second hand from europe and axle type differential, volvo in africa most are zero KM and hub reduction, that why you experience that, but find out scania with over drive gear box and hub reduction double diff like volvo
It doesn't really matter if the Volvo stopped or not. Both trucks will settle in at their peak power no matter what, the gradient dictates speed and the engine torque dictate if they make it all the way. Fuel consumption? That is the the important question if you are the one paying for fuel.
they both had stop start. only the volvo driver checked his fuel consumption at half way 48.9L/mile... most likely in power mode. But Scania V8's are really good at those hard pulls
@@karlmartin7384 Learn some math please. It's 5,3 sec diff. After 30 years on both of them, they are almost brake even. Sometimes it's all by the driver.
If you watch closely at the beginning the Scania drives away from the intersection while the Volvo driver was stopped by a pedestrian ! That gave a small lead to Scania but if you consider the parameters A ) the Volvo carried more load , it's trailers were filled to the brim , while Scania's trailers were not filled up totally and B ) Volvo closed the gap from around 20 + seconds to just 5 seconds at the checkpoint you have yourself a winner !!!!
the scania started the test in motion the volvo had to start stopped. the space between them should be at least five minute because the air for those who go ahead is much colder and consequently generates more power, another point and the weight (we do not know if and exactly the same, because in these circumstances 500 kg makes a lot of difference ) and the shape of the load on top of the carts very different from each other, but still parabens the scania, despite knowing that the Volvo is the best in the world.
Now they should check out how much diesel each one spent along the uphill and then we’ll see the real winner. Even though the Scania advantage doesn’t seem too relevant, it’s 5 seconds after 383 seconds of climb, which is about only 1.3% faster.
they should be similar, they are both running in power-mode, most likely, Only the Volvo driver checked the fuel consumption (48.9L/Mile at half way) Both Scania and Volvo have low consumption
We did a test a few years ago now at work... Kenworth with 600hp Cummins, 700hp Volvo and 650hp Scania.... it was a 330km loop, loaded to 58t gross... the Kenworth was worst on fuel, Volvo 30lt better and Scania 50lt better than the Volvo...
Good test. It would be good to swap trailers (different rolling resistances) and do it again with Volvo in front. Sometimes its easier chasing than looking in the mirror.
Yeah but this is just for fun, nothing they would spend any more time and money doing. In the end these trucks are as good as equal when it comes to performance.
O Scania não parou totalmente no início da subida e já saiu no "embalo", fora que tem mais madeira no Volvo. Sem contar que não foram informados as especificações dos caminhões, pois se um tiver a relação de diferencial mais longa que o outro vai dar diferença, tem que ter relações semelhantes.
@@danielsoccol vou te mandar aqui varios teste para você! E leia direitinho ok .. nao fico vendo youtube. Dirijo e proucuro saber do que realmente esta acontecendo.
Volvo has a 6 sylinder and scania has a v8 and volvo is right behind 😄💪💪💪 volvo viking power 😄💪💪💪 can you imagine a volvo with a v8 and guess the outcome? 😂
good valid comments here worked with both trucks and they are as good as each other i feel the V Has the edge on the hard pulls that's why there all over the rescue industry . cracking trucks Both .
I wonder what the difference had been if one of the Trucks had 200hp less...........like a 530 hp, but with the right gearbox and ratio for heavy haulage vs the Scania with 730hp......
And on the top of the hill they could have met Nicolas Gagnon or Sylvain Noel in their peterbilt and Kenworth who would have got up in half the time whit even 70 tons but probably had to do an engine rebuilt after that, not mention the visibility problems these ordinary guys would have on their way up du to thick black smoke.
Scanian sto helt stille før start. Jeg har bare klippet videoen til da den startet har gode bevis på min pc om folk trenger det. Her er lik last pålt på vekt og like retferdig start på begge
@@modshopnorge5715 nå er jeg Scania fan selv men når du klipper det til slik så tviler til å med jeg. Hadde nesten forventet at 750en skulle vinne. Ble forbruket målt?
@@kjemad skjønner. Tror ikke jeg får til å endre nåverene fil men skal få laget en ny med bare starten på di å få lagt ut.. kun volvo sjåføren som kom på å sjekke forbruket 48.9 L på mila midt i bakken
I look very closely at this video and even if the editor claims that Scania had a stand still start doesn't look like. It was a flying start for me. Volvo have more power 750vs730 and more torque 3550vs3500 and the best gearbox in the world. It is hard to believe that both trucks were at the same load. They are loaded with logs. I dont think that somebody choose and weight every log to make the loads even. And the last point is that probably Scania is brand new or the newest truck anyway. Volvo probably has a few miles on the clock. We need to take in to consideration the wear as well.
A small difference in power on paper, but in reality as good as zero difference. Many other things weigh in like new vs older engine, adjustment of engine, degree of service, tire pressure, type of transmission, the driver and so on. And total weight naturally. Hey, this is not high science, there are some +/- here and there. All in all just confirm that the power of the trucks is as good as equal.
Motor V8 gira mais rápido ,o virabrequim mais curto , o volume do motor Scania é 16.4 e do volvo 16.1 torque do Scania 3.500 e volvo 3.550 são praticamente iguais muda frações as duas máquinas em rendimentos.
Ross Brown actually there are another video proving they both went from a standing start. Don't be mad that a v8 blows all over a inline6 it's pretty obvious that will happen. There is the link below hehe ruclips.net/video/vnbG0FL2p80/видео.html
only the Volvo driver bothered checking apparently.... about 48.9L/mile at half way, I bet they are both driving the truck in power-mode (not so economical......)
In this type of comparative, we must try to do it as fair as possible for both trucks, in this kind of battles should be considered the final ratio of the differential and the relations of the gearbox, the type of tire, the amount of fuel on board, even the driver should be as similar as possible to know which is the best in the climbs, but without a doubt the Scania V8 engine prevails by having 2 more cylinders that greatly helps with the delivery of torque and power needed for the climbs, no matter how powerful the Volvo is, it lacks a bit of that extra strength to win this race.
What matters is the torque/power curve, not certainly the number of cylinders. The Volvo engine have a better torque curve. More torque from 1000 to 1400 rpm and peak power at 1600 rpm. Compared to the scania peak power at 1900 rpm.
@@fab8657 each truck had same weighing load, both truck stopped at start, before they went (he have posted an unedited video of that), they made sure everything was similar. The only difference is that the Scania have 2 more cylinder to work with and different gearbox
Doubt it. All the setup and preparations would have been for nothing if that were the case. It would have been pointless for all involved. If you pause at the middle of the very first transition after the intro, you can see that Scania was standing still.
But a little mistake.. at starting scania doesn't stopped on the ridge.... But Volvo was stopped on ridge... On ridge trucks will take some time to get its inertia... So it's late few seconds....
That's actually false, have been debunked many times in the past. The start of the video have been cliped away a bit too much. Look at the newer video on this channel showing the standstill start of the Scania
Did anyone noticed that Volvo was clearly hauling heavier load ? the two trailers on the Volvo had logs way higher than those on the Scania , plus the difference at the checkpoint was just 5 seconds so what ? the Scania went first and the Volvo was stopped in the intersection ...that was the whole difference which if it wasn't for that delay perhaps the two trucks will be even closer ! So we have heavier load on Volvo and a delay of few seconds , then the whole difference went up to around 20 seconds and before the checkpoint Volvo made it with just 5 seconds difference ! I would say Volvo was by far more superior under those circumstances !!!!
5 seconds on that long of a climb?? Comes down to both drivers nailing shift points the whole way up. Both ......... amazing machines! I think for all practical purposes we can call this a tie.
Also ............. at the bottom of the hill the Scania got a rolling start, the Volvo had to start from a complete stop. It took the Volvo more than 5 seconds to get up to the speed that the Scania started at.
The volvo was full stoped on the start of the video and the scania start with big speed, so its not legit competition , the volvo is a winner for me the only truck in the world
Primeiramente isto nunca foi teste, as duas marcas são maravilhosas é só questão de gosto mesmo. Agora tem uma marca que está incomodando..Daf..ou dafao..um bruto de respeito..da dando show em muitas marcas aí..
Vu de loin on dirait que le Volvo est plus chargé en volume, du coup est ce que les charges étaient identiques pour les deux ensembles ? Dans les deux cas ces deux camions sont magnifiques 👍
Theoretical horsepower doesn't give much sense in this competition with truck engines so close in performance. Like just 10% less airpressure in general for the Volvo trailer compared to the other, and those 20 hp difference is quickly zeroed out.And the Volvo can be newer and the Scania older and has a runned in engine. and so on
Scanian also stood completely still. I cut the video when he started and made it as short as possible. so I have evidence of the data that scanian also stood still. should see if I can make a video from the start of the video and post it
Guess what ...nobody stopped the Scania first of all , the Volvo was stopped by someone and that made some difference for a while but the Volvo even with a bit more load on it's back climbed that hill closing up and at the checkpoint had just 5 seconds of difference which means it was gradually accelerating faster than the Scania while UPHILL . That's how you compare two trucks of similar horsepower !!!!
@@georgeisaak5321 Both truck was stopped, it was the editing that made it look different. They have posted an unedited video. Both truck weighted 60 tons
Very good from the both of them but in the last part of the video the Volvo looked like it had more logs on the front of her than the Scania did any one know the weight difference?
Both weighter exactly 60T, they did everything after the book. What we do notice in the Video, is in area with steep incline, the Scania increase it's lead, and in area with less incline Volvo catch up... It might come down to that Scania V8 are really good at hard pull, it's almost as the Scania pulls better under "BIG" load
Great video. Comparison not valid both are great machines. What was the fuel consumption and fixed costs per kilometer? Compare with other trucks like actros, xf
the volvo has visibly more load on it, also the scania had a running start and the volvo had to stop and than start on the hill itself. In the end only 5 seconds difference? its a clear volvo win than. Scania given all the advantage should have trampled the volvo but could not
Just because it visibly looks like the Volvo has more load dosnt mean it wheighs more, bealive the Scania is a bit more heavy than the vovlo, And the Scania stopped as well, just look att the unedited video Sorry Volvo, you do not make the worlds strongest truck
Time for a new test. Scania 770 S vs Volvo 750 ;)
but the 730 was faster, so no need. is it the same engine in the 770 as the 730?
@@supertreme5559 basically same engine but different tuning so it produces more power. 770hp to be exact
@@supertreme5559 There is a test between the 730 and 770 on "Scania trucks and buses" Yt channel. 770 was faster but also used less fuel.
@@ontheroadagain4773 lol
@@supertreme5559the 770 has different internals to the 730. Different bottom end shells are different exhaust manifolds and fuel system
Those two are the kings! No matter if it's a whisper or a roar. Swedes should be proud. A Scania loaded to the limit going uphill puts a smile on my face. I guess it's a matter of taste. I used to drive a 142t and a F12. I liked them both but the v8 sound...
Both of the trucks are great, I built this timber trains, even bigger as 60 ton gross weight, super high end trucks. But personaly I like the sound of the Scania V* engine more.
Yeah that V8 sound is awesome !
That's why Volvo is called "Whisper from North"
@@TheGagi82 never heard of that before
@@S55M3 Then you don't know what VOLVO FH is
We hall 175 ton with FH700 and they are awesome and outlast the Scania all day long.
Scaniaman said: "Are my backlights ok...?"🙊
😂😂😂
He didnt stop on start line...
@@mortiferum87 Yes, he stopped. Both stopped and Volvo was looser:)
Volvo is carying more
@@losa6783 Did you mean "Volvo is crying more"?🤣🤣
Volvo Scania Swedish manufacturer is very tough.
I'm from Indonesia, very happy with Swedish products
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@@BannedMariusz Hauling in NZ .
ruclips.net/video/Z22PZrF9r7c/видео.html .2020 haulage. 57 tons.
ruclips.net/video/JdLKtv0c_pY/видео.html .. highway haulage..50 tons
ruclips.net/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/видео.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150 tons
ruclips.net/video/KGJTw07yRFg/видео.html .. 57 ton chip hauler .
ruclips.net/video/YIXoZzfBJK0/видео.html ..200 ton off highway loggers ,
ruclips.net/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/видео.html .Classic trucking.39T
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So it's basically even. The questions *everybody should be asking* however is:
1) How much fuel was used for each truck? Fuel efficiency is very important for trucking companies.
2) How reliable is each truck? How long will it last before something breaks on either truck?
When you've add the most fuel-efficient and reliable truck as a factor you'll get a more telling picture of this race.
They are both Swedish trucks, same level of engineering. Meaning they are very reliable, and probably low fuel consumption.
5 seconds difference out of 6:23 is round 1%. Weight, vehicle, tyre or driver difference is likely contributing to a higher difference
Peter Romberg Yes but the Volvo has an extra 20HP so even if it had some more weight which it probably doesn’t it still should of won...
are both trucks spec the same way aka rear ends and gearing ? cause that plays a factor too . also the v8 versous the straight 6 has a different power ban . there is alot of factors in place before we say this is better than the other .
@@rafailproios4539 No. Those extra 20hp doesn't mean anything in a hill climb. It's the transmission that has to be optimized for it. Compare the Scania in the video vs a Volvo FH750 excavation truck and the excavation truck's transmission has a larger gearing which makes it run on higher rpm.
The scania pulls 62 ton and the volvo pulls 60 ton.
@@stiigern You do you. Both are 60 tons but are made for 64 tons (at least on Swedish roads). But this is in Norway so I don't really know since that road train combination is quite unique in Norway but most common in Sweden and Finland where they're allowed to weigh 64+ tons.
I was Brest fed on Scania’s but I do love Volvo’s too 🤓
Deux véhicules extraordinaires par la continuité de leur ascension. Mais le peu d'écart entre les deux peuvent venir du départ au carrefour le premier s'élance sans arrêt alors que le second on lui impose un arrêt complet très cour mais un arrêt complet le peinalisant de quelques secondes qui lui sont fatales. Il aurait fallu un départ arrêté chacun. Quand je pense à mais début, j'avais un TR 280 avec une B 8 en Convoi exceptionnel en 1980 et un remorque italienne verdi....ça paraît une éternité !
Scania 💪👍
The strongest truck head in the world all manufactured by Scandinavian manufacture (Sweden).
Just like the old Viking, strong and brute raw power 💪
These trucks were designed by great Swedish engineering and top technicians. I'm fairly certain none of those engineers looked anything like a viking of the past. Neither did they have a viking as the template for designing them. These great designers and engineers used their great know-how, experience, clever thinking and innovation to design a top product - in this case a truck. Men like Alfred Nobel, Sven Gustaf Wingqvist, Fredrik Ljungström, Gustaf Dalén , Gustav de Laval, John Ericsson, Åke Senning etc etc made Sweden punch way above its weight class with inventions which still are used worldwide today. Their inventions and engineering made the country prosperous. In the industrial age innovation, quality and technical integrity sells products. Skinning the customer for the largest possible profit does not (certain countries do seem to have adapted that model).
Btw, designing a powerful truck is fairly easy. The real trick is to make it fuel-efficient, practical (it's designed to pull heavy loads not win races) and reliable. That last part is especially important for trucking companies. Depending on the market trucks live hard lives and need to minimize the time for service and repairs.
Speaking of the vikings. Their real strength lied in their longships. Without them they wouldn't have been able to achieve much. Why? Well, for starters the longships had flat bottoms which meant that the vikings could sail really close to the beach and therefore attack places nobody believed could be attacked from the sea. In fact their name "viking" is derived from the norse word for bay (vik).
They didn't call themselves vikings and fact is the people they faced had different names for them. The Germans called them Ascomanni (ashmen), Dubgail and Finngail by the Irish, Locklannaich by the Gaels, Dene (comes from "Dane") by the Anglo-saxons, Northmonn by Frisians and Varangians by Slavs and Byzantines. Viking was a title or "trade" for those who did it and the majority of the Scandinavians who stayed home and tended the land, kept livestock and crafted tools weren't vikings in other words.
As for the viking longships. Flat bottoms means they were fast too meaning that viking usually approached so fast very few saw them coming and could warn their villages or small towns they were under attack. Almost all European ships at this time had to make harbor at a port in order to land men and equipment. The Vikings simply exploited the hole of undefended coasts nobody would think of attacking from. In the case European warlords wanted to attack coasts their large ships had to stay far from the beaches and their men board smaller landing ships. All this took time and the element of surprise and speed was gone. The vikings simply landed fast with their longships and made shore in no time.
Back in the time of manual message delivering it could take a full day before the local king or "vassal" heard his domain had been attacked by vikings and another day to take his troops to the raided town. By that time the vikings had usually left already and moved on to the next target or went back home.
Where the vikings couldn't raid - i.e. places where the resistance was too strong with castles, keeps and walled cities - they settled on trade. This too was greatly helped by their longships. Why? Well, these longships could be used to travel on the European rivers as well. In fact the vikings even carried their longships on land to get from one river to another. While other ship traders had to sail all around Europe to get to for instance Constantinople (some vikings became soldiers in the Byzantine army) the vikings simply bypassed all that by sailing on rivers. Until they invented railroads the rivers were the by far best way to carry lots of goods to trade.
Last of all their longships were double-ended meaning that they could turn back real fast and row/sail the opposite direction of the situation became difficult.
So maybe these trucks are more akin to modern day "longships" rather than the vikings themselves. Fast and can go anywhere. Great for transporting goods long distances.
i agree,, nobody can match this to brands,,,, volvo and scania..
Both great trucks for the application, really nice trucks.
Volvo é extraordinário. Scania também. 👍 👍 👍 parabéns e obrigado 👍 👍 👍
Loved my 530 v8 but broke the crank at 800k. My 515 Cat has now 1.8 milj and going strong.
Should do both in the torque band and then high rpm comparison.. abit hard to compare when we dont know how each driver was driving cause it's only a few seconds difference so I'm guessing different styles of driving
True newzeland
Which equates to about 3% more horsepower, which is negligible in this type of comparison. I don’t know the torque figures for both trucks, but they are effectively producing the same power.
@@motosnape
volvo
750hp 3.550nm
Scania
730hp 3500nm
Scania v8 has a much better rpm range of torque. Totals are good but the Volvo peaks torque late and then drops off rapidly Scania peaks earlier and keeps a much more torque thorough the rpm. Ir the power band if you like. A straight 6 with a fuck ton of boost vs a v8 with a long power band 👍
100 Liter in 6.30 min
7:25 is absolutely the opening to a mission I'm guessing it's "catch the truck"
America is full of these Trucks now especially the Volvos.....since the American Truckers started using European Trucks we are now making good money for the first time....smoke emissions ZERO.
I have never seen a Scania here !
I am glad to hear that !!!!
Never seen any European truck in America... If you mean Volvo VNL it's a European brand but made in America. Plus while there's Pete, KW, International etc Volvos are not so economic (expensive parts and maintenance costs)... Cabovers ended in America since 80s since they are not comfortable in american roads. I don't know what America you're talking about... What I say is for north America (Canada, USA and Mexico)...
But they do use European buses like Scania, Volvo etc...
You are a liar ! Name one !
you mean USA and I know what you mean but is south America they do have scania here in the states we don't have trucks scania only small cars but here the trucks use straight six engines small trucks use V8 some
I use to drive an old 460hp v8 scania in NZ and on the long fairly steep hills could round up a lot of other trucks and that was with 40t of logs on bord
We drive same truck buddy :)
(from italy)
@@christianverde2498 I got the same truck to i drive from Belgium to Italy :)
well I lived in NZ most of my life, more logging truck/ trailer roll overs than anywhere else in the world, this is cos it is very easy to get a licence there
I'm from Africa and we hav pretty much every type of trucks here in South Africa from American Chinese European and we hav mountain passes that are about 100 km long to be honest Volvo always out pulls a scania hp to hp we always see Volvo 440 passing a scania g 460 or Volvo 480 passing scania r 500 here Volvo have a good reputation of pulling
In reality depend of many things.This video are a good exemple of what means a v8 with less power but faster uphill.Anyday I prefer a v8 instead a 6 inline.
yes volvo butter
Scania is king
@@evertdutoit5920 ok, you stay with king, and i stay with pm
Most of scania in Africa are second hand from europe and axle type differential, volvo in africa most are zero KM and hub reduction, that why you experience that, but find out scania with over drive gear box and hub reduction double diff like volvo
Every one of those horses is hard at work in these road monsters.
Cool comparison! But i would be gratefull to drive either of those! Very good trucks
Both trucks show great result!
It doesn't really matter if the Volvo stopped or not. Both trucks will settle in at their peak power no matter what, the gradient dictates speed and the engine torque dictate if they make it all the way.
Fuel consumption? That is the the important question if you are the one paying for fuel.
they both had stop start. only the volvo driver checked his fuel consumption at half way 48.9L/mile... most likely in power mode. But Scania V8's are really good at those hard pulls
Dois monstros das estradas!!
Both trucks performed quite even. 5 seconds for trucks is not a big difference. I am Scania fan but I have to admit that Volvo is also amazing truck
It was 9 seconds which is quite a lot in this scenario
@@karlmartin7384 Learn some math please. It's 5,3 sec diff. After 30 years on both of them, they are almost brake even. Sometimes it's all by the driver.
If you watch closely at the beginning the Scania drives away from the intersection while the Volvo driver was stopped by a pedestrian ! That gave a small lead to Scania but if you consider the parameters A ) the Volvo carried more load , it's trailers were filled to the brim , while Scania's trailers were not filled up totally and B ) Volvo closed the gap from around 20 + seconds to just 5 seconds at the checkpoint you have yourself a winner !!!!
@ehsan abdi it's not about horsepower, but newton meters of torque.
@@georgeisaak5321 no ruclips.net/video/vnbG0FL2p80/видео.html
the scania started the test in motion the volvo had to start stopped. the space between them should be at least five minute because the air for those who go ahead is much colder and consequently generates more power, another point and the weight (we do not know if and exactly the same, because in these circumstances 500 kg makes a lot of difference ) and the shape of the load on top of the carts very different from each other, but still parabens the scania, despite knowing that the Volvo is the best in the world.
ruclips.net/video/vnbG0FL2p80/видео.html
Lol you really think the air will be "much colder"???
Now they should check out how much diesel each one spent along the uphill and then we’ll see the real winner. Even though the Scania advantage doesn’t seem too relevant, it’s 5 seconds after 383 seconds of climb, which is about only 1.3% faster.
they should be similar, they are both running in power-mode, most likely, Only the Volvo driver checked the fuel consumption (48.9L/Mile at half way) Both Scania and Volvo have low consumption
We did a test a few years ago now at work... Kenworth with 600hp Cummins, 700hp Volvo and 650hp Scania.... it was a 330km loop, loaded to 58t gross... the Kenworth was worst on fuel, Volvo 30lt better and Scania 50lt better than the Volvo...
As duas marcas são feras, muito bom o vídeo.
Isso é um jogo?¿
Scania e Volvo, duas máquinas perfeitas 👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍
sen duvida as duas melhores marcas .do mundo scania e volvo
@@ageununesdasilva8270 Hauling in NZ .
ruclips.net/video/Z22PZrF9r7c/видео.html .2020 haulage. 57 tons.
ruclips.net/video/JdLKtv0c_pY/видео.html .. highway haulage..50 tons
ruclips.net/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/видео.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150 tons
ruclips.net/video/KGJTw07yRFg/видео.html .. 57 ton chip hauler .
ruclips.net/video/YIXoZzfBJK0/видео.html ..200 ton off highway loggers ,
ruclips.net/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/видео.html .Classic trucking.39T
@@ageununesdasilva8270
Actros
@@أحمدمناصرة-و5ظ sai nem na foto kkk
SCANIA É SCANIA meu amigo 👏👏👏👏👏
ruclips.net/video/576jU8Bfepg/видео.html 😆😆😆♂️
Scania will always be king in my opinion everyone has there's pro's & cons to both wagons.
Scania, King of road 😎
Good test. It would be good to swap trailers (different rolling resistances) and do it again with Volvo in front. Sometimes its easier chasing than looking in the mirror.
Yeah but this is just for fun, nothing they would spend any more time and money doing. In the end these trucks are as good as equal when it comes to performance.
O Scania não parou totalmente no início da subida e já saiu no "embalo", fora que tem mais madeira no Volvo. Sem contar que não foram informados as especificações dos caminhões, pois se um tiver a relação de diferencial mais longa que o outro vai dar diferença, tem que ter relações semelhantes.
Kkkk
Sempre a mesma historia.
Tem varios teste que o Scania 730 foi melhor na subida que o volvo 750 .. com mesmo peso e com a mesma relação de diferencial.
Só se for teste do ETS
@@danielsoccol vou te mandar aqui varios teste para você! E leia direitinho ok .. nao fico vendo youtube. Dirijo e proucuro saber do que realmente esta acontecendo.
That scania V8 Lord!!listen to her ..Volvo will never spec a v8 again
Now they are copying the retarder to be released soon as their exhaust brake is shit in comparison
Scania the king of power climber...
Volvo has a 6 sylinder and scania has a v8 and volvo is right behind 😄💪💪💪 volvo viking power 😄💪💪💪 can you imagine a volvo with a v8 and guess the outcome? 😂
@@djblitzy1Объем одинаковый, количество цилиндров на тягу не влияет.
good valid comments here worked with both trucks and they are as good as each other i feel the V Has the edge on the hard pulls that's why there all over the rescue industry . cracking trucks Both .
Both are great truck! But quoting and rephrase what Jeremy Clarkson said, "The Volvo 750 is brilliant, but i like Scania 730 more." Haha cheers.
Trucks aside it looks a beautiful place to work. Lovely scenery.
Impressive!
I wonder what the difference had been if one of the Trucks had 200hp less...........like a 530 hp, but with the right gearbox and ratio for heavy haulage vs the Scania with 730hp......
SCANIA R730 V8 IS BEST TRUCK ON THE WORLD !!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
5.3 secs is not worth measuring, both trucks are incredible!
And on the top of the hill they could have met Nicolas Gagnon or Sylvain Noel in their peterbilt and Kenworth who would have got up in half the time whit even 70 tons but probably had to do an engine rebuilt after that, not mention the visibility problems these ordinary guys would have on their way up du to thick black smoke.
It's allways nice to hear v8 yelling between mountains.💪👌
V8 All day all the way 🤠💪
Dyfer ratio is very important
Blir feil når Scaniaen hadde flying start og Volvoen stoppet helt....
Scanian stoppet også helt opp. Bare videoen som er klippet til da den kjørte avgårde. Har bevis på dataen :)
kjæmpefeil
Scanian sto helt stille før start. Jeg har bare klippet videoen til da den startet har gode bevis på min pc om folk trenger det. Her er lik last pålt på vekt og like retferdig start på begge
@@modshopnorge5715 nå er jeg Scania fan selv men når du klipper det til slik så tviler til å med jeg. Hadde nesten forventet at 750en skulle vinne. Ble forbruket målt?
@@kjemad skjønner. Tror ikke jeg får til å endre nåverene fil men skal få laget en ny med bare starten på di å få lagt ut.. kun volvo sjåføren som kom på å sjekke forbruket 48.9 L på mila midt i bakken
I look very closely at this video and even if the editor claims that Scania had a stand still start doesn't look like. It was a flying start for me. Volvo have more power 750vs730 and more torque 3550vs3500 and the best gearbox in the world. It is hard to believe that both trucks were at the same load. They are loaded with logs. I dont think that somebody choose and weight every log to make the loads even. And the last point is that probably Scania is brand new or the newest truck anyway. Volvo probably has a few miles on the clock. We need to take in to consideration the wear as well.
A small difference in power on paper, but in reality as good as zero difference. Many other things weigh in like new vs older engine, adjustment of engine, degree of service, tire pressure, type of transmission, the driver and so on. And total weight naturally. Hey, this is not high science, there are some +/- here and there. All in all just confirm that the power of the trucks is as good as equal.
Here you have the non edited start from the beginning ruclips.net/video/vnbG0FL2p80/видео.html
@@Rimrock300 I totally agree with you. For that reason the test is not conclusive.
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@ Jesse Gallagher - Horses & Trains
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Im zack from malaysian...i use volvo fmx 440... Cement tanker...everyday i take 80 tonnes cement to delivery... Although volvo fmx is tge best.
Hauling in NZ .
ruclips.net/video/Z22PZrF9r7c/видео.html .2020 haulage. 57 tons.
ruclips.net/video/JdLKtv0c_pY/видео.html .. highway haulage..50 tons
ruclips.net/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/видео.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150 tons
ruclips.net/video/KGJTw07yRFg/видео.html .. 57 ton chip hauler .
ruclips.net/video/YIXoZzfBJK0/видео.html ..200 ton off highway loggers ,
ruclips.net/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/видео.html .Classic trucking.39T
Scania. King of the Roads.
Motor V8 gira mais rápido ,o virabrequim mais curto , o volume do motor Scania é 16.4 e do volvo 16.1 torque do Scania 3.500 e volvo 3.550 são praticamente iguais muda frações as duas máquinas em rendimentos.
Hauling in NZ .
ruclips.net/video/Z22PZrF9r7c/видео.html .2020 haulage. 57 tons.
ruclips.net/video/JdLKtv0c_pY/видео.html .. highway haulage..50 tons
ruclips.net/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/видео.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150 tons
ruclips.net/video/KGJTw07yRFg/видео.html .. 57 ton chip hauler .
ruclips.net/video/YIXoZzfBJK0/видео.html ..200 ton off highway loggers ,
ruclips.net/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/видео.html .Classic trucking.39T
Volvo has a 6 sylinder and scania has a v8 and volvo is right behind 😄💪💪💪 volvo viking power 😄
Swedish power in action.
Scania had a rolling start and the volvo didn't!!! Not a fair test 😡
Ross Brown actually there are another video proving they both went from a standing start. Don't be mad that a v8 blows all over a inline6 it's pretty obvious that will happen. There is the link below hehe
ruclips.net/video/vnbG0FL2p80/видео.html
Scania também iniciou parado... Scania also starting STOP, idem volvo... See first seconds video
Both were stopped. So stop crying
ruclips.net/video/vnbG0FL2p80/видео.html
You know how much fuel each of them burned on this comparison?
Yeah a shit load😂
7mp if your lucky I’d say more like 2 or 3 mpg over that climb
Liters by hour to be honest, or meters per galon. Not Miles! 😎
which ever way you want to put it, the outcome is still the same
only the Volvo driver bothered checking apparently.... about 48.9L/mile at half way, I bet they are both driving the truck in power-mode (not so economical......)
Yes both super on everything but Scania all the way
What is that place located its a beautiful village
This place is in Norway and its called Setesdal 😀😉
In this type of comparative, we must try to do it as fair as possible for both trucks, in this kind of battles should be considered the final ratio of the differential and the relations of the gearbox, the type of tire, the amount of fuel on board, even the driver should be as similar as possible to know which is the best in the climbs, but without a doubt the Scania V8 engine prevails by having 2 more cylinders that greatly helps with the delivery of torque and power needed for the climbs, no matter how powerful the Volvo is, it lacks a bit of that extra strength to win this race.
Adolfo Pinto Yeah but the Volvo has an extra 20 hp..
What matters is the torque/power curve, not certainly the number of cylinders. The Volvo engine have a better torque curve. More torque from 1000 to 1400 rpm and peak power at 1600 rpm. Compared to the scania peak power at 1900 rpm.
Pretty close only about 5 seconds difference between them.
Poderiam fazer um teste entre volvo Scania é Daf
Scania não tem pra ninguém 💪💪
haha, super cool video!!
Thats one long hill! XD
Oh hey you here too?
Yea but is still not a good comparison... not well made
@@fab8657 each truck had same weighing load, both truck stopped at start, before they went (he have posted an unedited video of that), they made sure everything was similar. The only difference is that the Scania have 2 more cylinder to work with and different gearbox
Love them both, but a running start against a start from 0 seems a bit unfair.
Thats the
only Way that the Scania Can win with 5se
@@igenglenn Check the description box, there's the proof that the Scania did stopped completely like the Volvo
Did anyone get a fuel usages for the test by any chance for curiosity sake only
Did the Scania have a rolling start, but the Volvo started from standstill?
Doubt it. All the setup and preparations would have been for nothing if that were the case. It would have been pointless for all involved. If you pause at the middle of the very first transition after the intro, you can see that Scania was standing still.
Well done Scania! Support from France!
what was the weight these trucks were carrying ?? and what is the legal gross combination mass for this area ?????
They were carrying 60T each, witch is the max here in Norway and Sweden
Sería bueno q arranquen en la misma línea con el mismo peso ambos, y en una subida bien prolongada ahi se verá la verdadera potencia de un motor.
But a little mistake.. at starting scania doesn't stopped on the ridge.... But Volvo was stopped on ridge... On ridge trucks will take some time to get its inertia... So it's late few seconds....
That's actually false, have been debunked many times in the past. The start of the video have been cliped away a bit too much. Look at the newer video on this channel showing the standstill start of the Scania
Really... I will watch that video...
Did anyone noticed that Volvo was clearly hauling heavier load ? the two trailers on the Volvo had logs way higher than those on the Scania , plus the difference at the checkpoint was just 5 seconds so what ? the Scania went first and the Volvo was stopped in the intersection ...that was the whole difference which if it wasn't for that delay perhaps the two trucks will be even closer ! So we have heavier load on Volvo and a delay of few seconds , then the whole difference went up to around 20 seconds and before the checkpoint Volvo made it with just 5 seconds difference ! I would say Volvo was by far more superior under those circumstances !!!!
Theyweigh the same. Both started from a stanstill. Give it a break mr! ruclips.net/video/vnbG0FL2p80/видео.html
Well it what do you expect v8 against straight 6 both engines same 16 litre.......as we say here
“YOUR NEVER LATE WITH A V8” !!!
Dyfer ratio is very important
@@BannedMariusz sounds like you have a Volvo…!!!😆lol,!
5 seconds on that long of a climb?? Comes down to both drivers nailing shift points the whole way up. Both ......... amazing machines! I think for all practical purposes we can call this a tie.
Also ............. at the bottom of the hill the Scania got a rolling start, the Volvo had to start from a complete stop. It took the Volvo more than 5 seconds to get up to the speed that the Scania started at.
@@chackos123 Wrong. The VIDEO started when the Scania was already rolling. Don't belive everything you see on 'TV'
Automatic transmissions and they were both launchingfrom a stand still. ruclips.net/video/vnbG0FL2p80/видео.html
@@Rimrock300 there was 2different stop watches tho
Pretty sure there both automatic
Scania : Power
Volvo : Comfort, Safety
Mercedes : Luxury
The volvo was full stoped on the start of the video and the scania start with big speed, so its not legit competition , the volvo is a winner for me the only truck in the world
Nope. No flying start. The video was just edited according to the editor and he would even upload the start unedited...
Och du är inte svenskt nog att döma svenskt mästerverk. ;)
Wrong. The VIDEO starts when the Scania is in motion. The SCANIA starts when speed is zero.
Primeiramente isto nunca foi teste, as duas marcas são maravilhosas é só questão de gosto mesmo. Agora tem uma marca que está incomodando..Daf..ou dafao..um bruto de respeito..da dando show em muitas marcas aí..
Verdade os Daf são feras
The volvo had a standing start so was surely disadvantaged?
Wrong. The FILMING started when the Scania was moving.
The volvo looked to have the bigger load ??? only 5 seconds different!!!
Вывод один, обе машины ВЕЛИКЛЕПНЫ!
In Saudi Arabia we love Volvo more
Vu de loin on dirait que le Volvo est plus chargé en volume, du coup est ce que les charges étaient identiques pour les deux ensembles ? Dans les deux cas ces deux camions sont magnifiques 👍
Scania hold my beer
5 Seconds is not much over all, not sure why the Volvo is slower being it has more Horsepower and Torque, and i assume 12+2 gearboxes same ratio?
Theoretical horsepower doesn't give much sense in this competition with truck engines so close in performance. Like just 10% less airpressure in general for the Volvo trailer compared to the other, and those 20 hp difference is quickly zeroed out.And the Volvo can be newer and the Scania older and has a runned in engine. and so on
Directdrive or overdrive gearbox,....and what kind of rear axle ratio???
Pulling this weight I would be opting for ATD with hub reduction.
It would have been better if they had done two run with the drivers swapping trucks. That would have given a fairer result.
I like how the scania gets a rolling start and the Volvo doesnt...
Scanian also stood completely still. I cut the video when he started and made it as short as possible. so I have evidence of the data that scanian also stood still. should see if I can make a video from the start of the video and post it
@@modshopnorge5715 ah, in the video it looks like it gets a rolling start
Guess what ...nobody stopped the Scania first of all , the Volvo was stopped by someone and that made some difference for a while but the Volvo even with a bit more load on it's back climbed that hill closing up and at the checkpoint had just 5 seconds of difference which means it was gradually accelerating faster than the Scania while UPHILL . That's how you compare two trucks of similar horsepower !!!!
@@georgeisaak5321 Both truck was stopped, it was the editing that made it look different. They have posted an unedited video. Both truck weighted 60 tons
Knut Olav Homme you didn’t edit shit. Where is the weight bridge. Why has Volvo got three trailers.
Don’t take us for fools
Very good from the both of them but in the last part of the video the Volvo looked like it had more logs on the front of her than the Scania did any one know the weight difference?
Yeah it also had more logs on the trailer as well.
Yeah and also Volvo have more power/Nm and slower with 5s
Both weighter exactly 60T, they did everything after the book. What we do notice in the Video, is in area with steep incline, the Scania increase it's lead, and in area with less incline Volvo catch up... It might come down to that Scania V8 are really good at hard pull, it's almost as the Scania pulls better under "BIG" load
How about gearing and rpm numbers?
Motorzão v8 falando alto, e ainda por cima é mais econômico !
E olha q o do fh tinha alguns cavalos a mais
Um amigo meu tem um v8 620 já mexeu 3 vezes e a scania até diminuiu a potência na concecionaria pra ver se para de incomodar
Observação foi tirado zero !!!
@@zemarcos1220 aham era meu ele
@@zemarcos1220 sempre que a historia começa com um amigo pode saber que é mentira kkkkkk
Both trucks are great and equal, but i would those the one with less fuel consumption and low cost per km / mile
May I ask where was this filmed ?? Scenery is beautiful.
Valle in Setesdal
Norway:)
@@modshopnorge5715 Thank you very much.
Where is that hill?
So cool
Valle/Setesdal
NORWAY
@@modshopnorge5715 24m i norge?!
Häftig film 👍
Great video. Comparison not valid both are great machines. What was the fuel consumption and fixed costs per kilometer? Compare with other trucks like actros, xf
Neither actros nor an xf cannot pull this much of weight
Actors rolled back down the hill LOL worsts trucks ever made
Ok... dyfer ratio is very important.
What is SCANIA what is VOLVO??
Scania 👍
The FH750 still got. the old gearbox. They should add the new one which is already foundable in the normal FH
Scanıa 👏👏👏
They should have both started at the same time... To be a proper test... The volvo stopped at the start talking to some guy.
the volvo has visibly more load on it, also the scania had a running start and the volvo had to stop and than start on the hill itself. In the end only 5 seconds difference? its a clear volvo win than. Scania given all the advantage should have trampled the volvo but could not
Just because it visibly looks like the Volvo has more load dosnt mean it wheighs more, bealive the Scania is a bit more heavy than the vovlo,
And the Scania stopped as well, just look att the unedited video
Sorry Volvo, you do not make the worlds strongest truck
Here is the video that is not edited, here you see the start and that the scanian stops completely before start
youtu.be/vnbG0FL2p