I have had two running in a rack mount for a year now (dedicated Linux and windows) workstations along with a Mac mini. I use all three equally and use them as my main machines in programming and they’ve been outstanding.
@Stephen XS true, but this box is a couple years old and is still better than many of the cheaper boxes we get from Dell, HP. Or Lenovo for the same price.
@@stephenxs8354 Well the xx35 denotes the Zen 3+ architecture, not Zen 4, so it'd not as significant of an improvement as one might hope for, but still an improvement.
Good job of Beelink to point out the workaround. However, it's not about Microsoft not "debugging" their installation process - they design it fully intentionally to trick people into signing up, and I hate it. Recently my mom managed to get herself completely locked out of her laptop because MS decided it needed to authenticate online with her phone. Next question - how do you recover to a normal local account after MS got their claws into it?
Don't underestimate the newer VEGA from the Ryzen 7 5000 series. It's not what you remember when you were in highschool. 😂 This can play previous and current AAA titles at 720p-1080p/30-60fps on low/med settings in varying degrees. Pretty rad for something with no discrete GPU.
These are amazing! Got 30 of these for a small office at $ 339 each from a local distributor. Overkill for word processing, our heaviest loads are web based ERP and quickbooks. Prebuilt equivalent is more expensive and chonkier too.
I'm thinking about getting one of these to throw windows on and move my main system to Linux. Glad to see these kinds of reviews, I'm always amazed that people don't know these small, low power systems exist for X86.
I just picked up the SEC6 Pro 7735HS with 32GB of RAM for $520 Surprized at the performance at 1080p, even in hard games like cyberpunk But in Forza Horizon 5 i'm getting 30+FPS with RT high sure the iGPU is using 12GB of RAM but still
LOL I actually ordered one 2 days ago, will take around a week so haven't gotten any feedback. Hoping to use it at home as my home server to replace one of my Pi 4, getting tired of dealing with ARM. Also to use while on the go when I travel (I'll take a 2m HDMI cable and wireless keyboard and mouse), this way I can still watch stuff and game pretty easily. For programming and running my containers it's gonna be nutty. Got a pretty sweet deal IMO, the 16GB ram one for 370€ (including shipping). Let's see how it goes.
@@-mohito1152 Those games are way too demanding for small pc's. Maybe if you use the lowest settings, but those games have a hard time running on even decent gaming pc's
Did your SER5 arrive in the end? I'm very interested in getting the 5700U edition to replace my Rasberri Pi4 and host a few VMs such as a Docker host, PiHole, etc.
I wonder if this is available with Displayport ports instead of HDMI? As for USB ports, a hub is your friend. Keyboard, mouse, additional input device, sound bar, headphones, microphone, webcam (possibly x2), fingerprint reader, SD card reader, mobile phone / tablet, spot for USB stick or external optical device or external HDD / SSD. Say 12 USB ports. That's easily doable with a hub. Better have two: one for the USB 2 devices and one for the USB 3 devices.
When the mini-PC has a faster CPU than my desktop (8700K) .... but there is no reason to upgrade when the CPU is still fast enough for me and never was the limiting factor so far. Still ... looking into small boards to maybe build a fully custom PC and sell my current one.
Thanks for the review. I don't think you talk about the possibility of adding a 2.5 in. drive. It is possible to use one and does it cover completely the fan ?. Is there a space between the drive and the fan ? Tx
I have the Asus NUC-like computer with 4700U and it seems to have inadequate cooling for a 15W APU. I'm surprised that this is able to cool a 45W or 40W APU.
If it's the Asus PN50 it looks to be standard Asus shit cooling design with laughably small vents. Bonus points for designing the plastic shell to look like large vents while actually only having small sections of it be openings lol
@@TotallyOperator PN50 looks like mine. I don't get trying to hide the vents because I associate vents with performance and see them as positive. I think I'll modify the computer with a Dremel.
Laptop to convert mini pc is good or bad depend on the what is needed. One is good is chose of monitor, keyboard, mouse and other devices. The cons for laptop is battery. But now it reduce some degree depend what type of laptop. I thought of something. Although it mini pc portable is good as long is module. If someone design block modules it would good depend on the needs or normal used. Or I am over thinking things. There been custom laptop or reused part to create it.
the apu tdp seems to be more conservative in effect, in that from my recollection its the tdp for the apu, not the cpu, so if you were to run furmark or whatever and cinebench at the same time then you can check the 45w, if its only the cpu being loaded probably like 66% the total ~45w power or something if theres temp for boosting or something in effect more like 25~30w under heavy cpu load probably
"if you were to run furmark or whatever and cinebench at the same time then you can check the 45w" Only if the OEM has limited the CPU to that - but by default they gulp down a lot more than the TDP. For the 45W configs that usually is around 65W longterm if they have decent cooling.
@@ABaumstumpf most oems seem to default to the lowest configurable power level for amd cpus so they can put in cheaper cooling for laptops newer ones prob more power since better boosting behaviors then older units, but is still the tdp is the entire soc/socket not the cpu thats only like 45% of the die
@@Dinscurge get a laptop with better cooling and the CPU alone will draw well over 60 W for a 45 w tdp. That has been the same for several generations of Ryzen now. It seems you are either confusing the low-power mode that often is enabled by default with the capabilities of the CPU or you think that TDP got anything to do with power on Ryzen ( it does not - AMD decided to create arbitrary numbers that have no relation with power)
@@ABaumstumpf this isnt a 300w powersupply gaming desktop replacement they state it has like 65W at the power brick, it still drops power going thru the charging circuitry/vrm and stuff, and has to power everything with that not just the cpu cores
It would be nice if it was possible to do some sort of undervolting on this type of kit. I bet you could get 95% of the performance for much less power.
For these mini pc's what I do: As soon as it boots it boot's into a Linux USB stick which I use to wipe the windows install. I have 4 of these style machines and I've never seen the windows install on any of them. Windows is well beyond its sell by date,
i wonder how long they last before they start bsoding ? you knowing packing all that power in there. EDIT: while my HP ryzen started shitting bricks i guess my NUC hasn't really ducked up much running esxi
I have the slightly lower spec Beelink Mini S Mini PC W11, Intel 11th Gen N5095. Set it up as dual boot with my favourite Linux. In time I may wipe Windows 11 if I find no use for it.
I think i've missed the window of buying AMD cpu's and it making sense, my eyes are set on nvidia's SoC design with the memory modules linked outside of the chip. My main gripe with high performance SoC's is the lack of memory expansion, it seems nvidia has those same concerns with their soc design.
@@robh1521 Hi Rob, I never needed to do anything in the bios, the bios in my laptop is quite basic. I think it'll depend on who builds and what motherboard you get. It's an asus vivobook that i have. I've just had a look online, and turns out it'll boost for 5-8mins up to 54w, and then come down to 45w, and this makes sense actually, as i notice the thermals drop around that period as well (~90 deg C down to 80-85 deg C) when using handbrake.
@@robh1521 That is the default behaviour of basically all laptop. and 54W is rather low for that CPU - get a thicker book (and not a slim&light) and it will run ~65W permanently.
Yes, I have a similar unit to this with a 5600u, 64G, and dual NICs that I am currently running with ESX 8. The goal is to add another one or two to play with clustering at home. Very happy with these little boxes for what they are.
NUCs are killing ITX, when was the last cheap passively cooled low power Atom motherboard released? 2017? Small PCs are done. A youtuber trying to fit a 4090 into a shoebox does not count.
I have had two running in a rack mount for a year now (dedicated Linux and windows) workstations along with a Mac mini. I use all three equally and use them as my main machines in programming and they’ve been outstanding.
This couldn't have been posted at a better time. I was literally researching these.
I bought 14 of these , super happy, BTW comes with win 11 pro for that price
Did a minisforum 7735 for the wife... it rocks. These small computers have really come a long way.
That is much better cpu AND gpu than this.
@Stephen XS true, but this box is a couple years old and is still better than many of the cheaper boxes we get from Dell, HP. Or Lenovo for the same price.
@@stephenxs8354 Well the xx35 denotes the Zen 3+ architecture, not Zen 4, so it'd not as significant of an improvement as one might hope for, but still an improvement.
@@jamesbuckwas6575 Yes, 7735HS is the same chip as a 6800H.
@Beelink the minisforum was on an insane sale. Like some of the beeline stuff.
Good job of Beelink to point out the workaround. However, it's not about Microsoft not "debugging" their installation process - they design it fully intentionally to trick people into signing up, and I hate it. Recently my mom managed to get herself completely locked out of her laptop because MS decided it needed to authenticate online with her phone. Next question - how do you recover to a normal local account after MS got their claws into it?
Don't underestimate the newer VEGA from the Ryzen 7 5000 series. It's not what you remember when you were in highschool. 😂
This can play previous and current AAA titles at 720p-1080p/30-60fps on low/med settings in varying degrees. Pretty rad for something with no discrete GPU.
Looking good Wendell. Looks like your working out.
These are amazing! Got 30 of these for a small office at $ 339 each from a local distributor. Overkill for word processing, our heaviest loads are web based ERP and quickbooks. Prebuilt equivalent is more expensive and chonkier too.
I got the SER5 MAX. Best thing I have ever done.
I love these things. This plus a damn good backup strategy and you've got a good plan for basic work computing.
I'm thinking about getting one of these to throw windows on and move my main system to Linux. Glad to see these kinds of reviews, I'm always amazed that people don't know these small, low power systems exist for X86.
@Voodoo Yam I need a windows box otherwise I would just move to Linux on my main machine without the beelink.
@Voodoo Yam No prob.
I just picked up the SEC6 Pro 7735HS with 32GB of RAM for $520
Surprized at the performance at 1080p, even in hard games like cyberpunk
But in Forza Horizon 5 i'm getting 30+FPS with RT high sure the iGPU is using 12GB of RAM but still
"Stellaris at 1080p" Sir, once all 500 mods load even a 4090 and 13900k will struggle with Stellaris at 720p.
I keep looking at mini PC videos and then I am sad because I don't need these things. But I really want them
I plan on getting one for my mother. she does web browsing and that should last her years, plus for the price you cant beat it.
I'm thinking of getting the SCR5 Max for office work. Maybe some light gaming and RUclips video editing. What's your opinion?
Based Wendell. Starts his own successful channel out of a disaster and gets healthy doing it. Power on, legend.
Mine got erased and Linux installed on the first power up. Little bugger runs steam games well. For 300 i was impressed!
LOL I actually ordered one 2 days ago, will take around a week so haven't gotten any feedback.
Hoping to use it at home as my home server to replace one of my Pi 4, getting tired of dealing with ARM.
Also to use while on the go when I travel (I'll take a 2m HDMI cable and wireless keyboard and mouse), this way I can still watch stuff and game pretty easily. For programming and running my containers it's gonna be nutty. Got a pretty sweet deal IMO, the 16GB ram one for 370€ (including shipping).
Let's see how it goes.
Hi, does it run modern games like rdr2, gtav, cyberpunk?
@@-mohito1152 Those games are way too demanding for small pc's. Maybe if you use the lowest settings, but those games have a hard time running on even decent gaming pc's
10/10 quality review
I just ordered their SER5 MAX off amazon for 329$ to try it out. If it's as good as it looks I might make a small proxmox cluster out of them.
BTW I've been watching your old stuff while learning and slowly getting to the new videos. You look great man!
Did your SER5 arrive in the end? I'm very interested in getting the 5700U edition to replace my Rasberri Pi4 and host a few VMs such as a Docker host, PiHole, etc.
@@TimmahNZ1 yeah, I added it to my cluster and moved over a lot of LXCs from another node that was being a tad bit overtaxed in core/memory resources.
@@thatguywiththe - I appreciate the reply, I am going to put an order through tonight :)
I wonder if this is available with Displayport ports instead of HDMI? As for USB ports, a hub is your friend. Keyboard, mouse, additional input device, sound bar, headphones, microphone, webcam (possibly x2), fingerprint reader, SD card reader, mobile phone / tablet, spot for USB stick or external optical device or external HDD / SSD. Say 12 USB ports. That's easily doable with a hub. Better have two: one for the USB 2 devices and one for the USB 3 devices.
When the mini-PC has a faster CPU than my desktop (8700K) .... but there is no reason to upgrade when the CPU is still fast enough for me and never was the limiting factor so far.
Still ... looking into small boards to maybe build a fully custom PC and sell my current one.
Thanks for the review. I don't think you talk about the possibility of adding a 2.5 in. drive. It is possible to use one and does it cover completely the fan ?. Is there a space between the drive and the fan ? Tx
You can add a SATA drive. Absolutely. I have a 1TB drive in this model, and it runs great.
I have the Asus NUC-like computer with 4700U and it seems to have inadequate cooling for a 15W APU. I'm surprised that this is able to cool a 45W or 40W APU.
If it's the Asus PN50 it looks to be standard Asus shit cooling design with laughably small vents. Bonus points for designing the plastic shell to look like large vents while actually only having small sections of it be openings lol
@@TotallyOperator PN50 looks like mine. I don't get trying to hide the vents because I associate vents with performance and see them as positive. I think I'll modify the computer with a Dremel.
Laptop to convert mini pc is good or bad depend on the what is needed. One is good is chose of monitor, keyboard, mouse and other devices. The cons for laptop is battery. But now it reduce some degree depend what type of laptop. I thought of something. Although it mini pc portable is good as long is module. If someone design block modules it would good depend on the needs or normal used. Or I am over thinking things. There been custom laptop or reused part to create it.
the apu tdp seems to be more conservative in effect, in that from my recollection its the tdp for the apu, not the cpu, so if you were to run furmark or whatever and cinebench at the same time then you can check the 45w, if its only the cpu being loaded probably like 66% the total ~45w power or something if theres temp for boosting or something in effect more like 25~30w under heavy cpu load probably
"if you were to run furmark or whatever and cinebench at the same time then you can check the 45w"
Only if the OEM has limited the CPU to that - but by default they gulp down a lot more than the TDP. For the 45W configs that usually is around 65W longterm if they have decent cooling.
@@ABaumstumpf most oems seem to default to the lowest configurable power level for amd cpus so they can put in cheaper cooling for laptops
newer ones prob more power since better boosting behaviors then older units, but is still the tdp is the entire soc/socket not the cpu thats only like 45% of the die
@@Dinscurge get a laptop with better cooling and the CPU alone will draw well over 60 W for a 45 w tdp. That has been the same for several generations of Ryzen now.
It seems you are either confusing the low-power mode that often is enabled by default with the capabilities of the CPU or you think that TDP got anything to do with power on Ryzen ( it does not - AMD decided to create arbitrary numbers that have no relation with power)
@@ABaumstumpf this isnt a 300w powersupply gaming desktop replacement they state it has like 65W at the power brick, it still drops power going thru the charging circuitry/vrm and stuff, and has to power everything with that not just the cpu cores
It would be nice if it was possible to do some sort of undervolting on this type of kit. I bet you could get 95% of the performance for much less power.
I too would also like to see something like this
Th ask for looking at different budgets. Some people don’t have $700 to drop on a Mini pc
Does anyone know, or have a link to, the Github monitoring project mentioned in this video?
Yep, here ya go! github.com/VictorRobellini/pfSense-Dashboard ~Editor Autumn
@@Level1Techs Many thanks! 👍
Would be great if u can do a review of the beelink GTR7 series 7840HS Ryzen 7 with RDNA3
Can it accommodate a 15mm 2.5 HDD?
wait for the next version with better igp for madvr
What’s the USB-C bandwidth? Can’t seem to find it anywhere
How many VRAM does the dedicated GPU have?
Very nice! I wonder if they'll ever get a fit iot filet3
we are deploying these for all internal users and as an offering for basic workstations for clients.
neat wish these things had HBM ram on the APU
Beelink is AWESOME!
huh, my $1000 lenovo thinkpad e595 laptop has almost the exact specs as this. it's pretty nice.
Can any of these mini pc run vr quest 3 headset.
For these mini pc's what I do: As soon as it boots it boot's into a Linux USB stick which I use to wipe the windows install. I have 4 of these style machines and I've never seen the windows install on any of them. Windows is well beyond its sell by date,
Could you please give me the model of the network card installed in this minipc ? Is it an Intel card or another model ?
I225v
i wonder how long they last before they start bsoding ? you knowing packing all that power in there. EDIT: while my HP ryzen started shitting bricks i guess my NUC hasn't really ducked up much running esxi
Woot!
I have the slightly lower spec Beelink Mini S Mini PC W11, Intel 11th Gen N5095. Set it up as dual boot with my favourite Linux. In time I may wipe Windows 11 if I find no use for it.
Slighly lower spec? A N5095 is trash level compare to this cpu.
I think i've missed the window of buying AMD cpu's and it making sense, my eyes are set on nvidia's SoC design with the memory modules linked outside of the chip. My main gripe with high performance SoC's is the lack of memory expansion, it seems nvidia has those same concerns with their soc design.
I have a 5800H laptop, boosts to 54w, great CPU. If i remember right, it benchmarks close to the 5600g.
How did you boost it? And is it safe to do it on the ser5 pro? Thanks
@@robh1521 Hi Rob, I never needed to do anything in the bios, the bios in my laptop is quite basic. I think it'll depend on who builds and what motherboard you get. It's an asus vivobook that i have. I've just had a look online, and turns out it'll boost for 5-8mins up to 54w, and then come down to 45w, and this makes sense actually, as i notice the thermals drop around that period as well (~90 deg C down to 80-85 deg C) when using handbrake.
@@robh1521 That is the default behaviour of basically all laptop.
and 54W is rather low for that CPU - get a thicker book (and not a slim&light) and it will run ~65W permanently.
It’s 91 degrees Fahrenheit here
Look At This Graph.
3:38 Nope, not on this channel! xD
Anybody using the higher end Beelink devices for a Hypervisor like ESXI or Proxmox ?
Yes, I have a similar unit to this with a 5600u, 64G, and dual NICs that I am currently running with ESX 8. The goal is to add another one or two to play with clustering at home. Very happy with these little boxes for what they are.
I have it running proxmox for a year and it’s been rock solid. I upgraded the ram to 64g and 2tb ssd.
@@bpurdy3 Do you know the model , they have a heap of SKU's looking at the website
At this cost, I have 4 words: Bare metal kubernetes cluster.
Forget Beelink.... Show me the Beerlink!
There is no bare-bone version.
Not first. Second ?
dont bother me, i'm bc
NUCs are killing ITX, when was the last cheap passively cooled low power Atom motherboard released? 2017? Small PCs are done. A youtuber trying to fit a 4090 into a shoebox does not count.
>gestures broadly at rtx 4070
Bruh you;re just a weirdo who likes Kpop and other shit music. These are still being made lol
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