A shame it's not kept a more rugged and practical character... I think the old model had 30mm more ground clearance than the regular octavia which still isn't loads, but enough to make a bit of a difference. 15mm on this new one couples with a silly bumper is a bit of a joke. I'm considering getting a 2nd hand raised 4wd estate so may buy a second hand older model. If buying new I would probably end up buying an SUV as the options just aren't great these days.
I am surprised Skoda are now offering a front wheel only variant. It sort of spoils the Scout name. I have an early Scout, and that has 178mm of ground clearance as I do use mine off road. Also, I prefer the earlier Haldex system both on and off road. In my opinion, I think the later cars are a disappointment especially when the computer limits your acceleration torque, which is important when towing. I tow a transporter trailer with rally car, and a camp trailer, (not both at the same time). I think I will stick with my older model Scout because a raised estate with the 4x4 and ground clearance is important to me and it returns better MPG than a Subaru.
Yeah, this new one barely looks any different from an ordinary Octavia :( Superb is still OKish, but last I checked it was offered only with the most powerful engines, making it dreadfully expensive.
@@MarekDrives Have a Seat Leon Cupra ST at the moment . Superb car . I might look at a lifted estate but I really don’t need anything but an estate car. I have two greyhounds and I like the low loading lip of an estate. When people buy SUV they don’t realise how high some of these loading lips are . Then their poor old fat Labrador can’t just hop in ! Lol
I put my money where my mouth is by buying a high specced Hyundai i30 Hatchback. Of course, I never bought the i40 and now it's gone. Most likely I would have bought a i40 if still available and updated.
I own an Audi A4 Avant with a 6 cylinder and I love it but when I drive it after a snow, especially when we go up north on the dirt roads to cottages the bottom drags through the snow. I like the A4 Allroad but it means buying new, and it's kind of a premium over the Q5. I wish I could find one a year or 2 old. As for this Skoda? Meh. It's kind of the same as a VW but is it that much cheaper to make it worth buying over the VW?
So Skoda usually makes slightly bigger cars than their VW counterparts, so this may be a Golf competitor, but in terms of size it's between the Golf and the Passat, making it a more compelling proposition to many. Scout business aside.
Different shocks and springs that give you 1.5 cm more ground clearance, but as far as I can tell this is the same stuff you get on the rough-road package, along with underbody protection.
I don't like ur sarcasm and i don't like ur judgment about this car in general. U're probably trying do get somewhere with your point of view but it's not working. Try something else for ur own sake.
I preferred to buy a "raised estate" and really liked the Octavia 3 Facelift Scout and the Superb 3 Facelift Scout. Still, their price was the same as Mitsubishi Outlander III, which had more options and 19 cm ground clearance, compared to the 17 cm of the scouts. So I checked the Kodiaq, and its price was almost 5k euro more than the Outlander for the Edition or Scout trims. Not to mention the interest on the Skoda's was above 2.4%, while the Mitsubishi had a fixed rate of 1.59%. I mean... who would pick a raised estate when the SUV is the same money, and it offers more? I hated SUVs until... well, they left me no choice but to buy one because I need a lot of cargo area, 7 seats, and like to visit mountains with dirt roads.
Just ordered today. There is no sensible choice and actually I was gliding between absolutely shitty Duster which is offering return to middle 90's and astromically expensive German brands and Volvo. There was also test drive of new Suzuki SX4 but due to cheap interior with unacceptable noise level,we decided to leave over 40k€ for this 4x4 estate in nearest Skoda dealership. Hopefully well spend money and great opportunity to "say goodbye" for Opel insignia which was an absolute mistake
I think that these 4x4 wagons are all normal man (or family?) can ask for. Best allrounders out there. Majority of people doesn't need 4x4 anyway. It is better looking, it has bigger booth and lower consumption while having better handling comparing to SUVs. It is sad that they are quite pricey. SUVs? Ok, why not, once i got problems with my back. Luckily, i am not there yet, until then, "normal" cars all the way. On the other hand i have to admit that E-class is ugly AF :|
I have a 2015 Skoda Octavia Scout 184 bhp with DSG and love it. I bought it new with many extras (€9,000 worth), so I have many extra comforts and safety features not normally standard on other Scouts. 232,000 kms over the last 8 years have been totally problem free, and the occasional light offroad experiences were also enjoyable. I wouldn't change it for the world. In a nutshell, I ❤❤❤ it !
nice review but it is a bit off. Seems you have some personal grudge against 2021 Octavia Scout lol. This car looks nice, way better than the previous generations. In fact this is the peak design for Octavia overall. And nobody gives a damn about 4x4 off-roading in an estate. You buy an SUV for that. People buy Octavia Scout because it looks better than a regular 2021 Octavia Estate.
I have a 2011 Octavia 2 Scout. So far very little complaints with the car, the raised height got me off a few tricky situations unscathed so far. It's not a true off road vehicle, but for bad roads in Romania and snow etc. it's perfect. Sad to see the new model doesn't live up to the old one. Thank you for your honest and unbiased review, I've been watching other more "mainstream" reviews and they are nothing but praise, disappointing.
I just moved back to the US after selling my Volvo V70 overseas. I was going to buy a Tiguan because I thought that is what my wife wants. She then informed me how stupid she thinks CUVS are and asked if we can get a wagon!? Well used cars are crazy expensive so we ended up with a 2022 Subaru Outback XT (2.4 turbo with 260 hp) and we are so happy. 😁 that being said the Outback is just as tall as the Tiguan and has more ground clearance than most suvs. The downside is that it’s thirsty but gas is much cheaper than when we lived in Germany so I will deal with it to save the wagons!
A wagon/estate, with a raised ground clearance, and AWD, is really such a rare species. SUV are highly overrated. When it comes to practicality, looks to me SUV still loses out to wagon/estate in term of space, and practicality, especially the boot space of a wagon/estate vehicles. Also SUV are much higher in the ground, making it more prone to body roll and it is still not as stable and comfortable as a sedan/wagon.
The station wagon will survive only in this crossover form and with 4 wheel drive. A wagon is an honest car that doesn't pretend to be anything else that it is. A family car with added capabilities. The perfect example is the Subaru Outback in the US. Americans simply hate wagons and few only exist on the market, but the Outback sells like crazy. And no, the Outback is not an SUV, it's a wagon. So there! That will be the future for any wagon in Europe.
Kudos for the new graphic design additions to your videos. Minor, personal remark: I would delete the useless, uninteresting background elevator music in your videos. Skoda Octavia 4x4 Scout is the only good option but mega expensive so pointless. P.S. Simca Matra rocks!
In the UK Skoda only sell the Octavia Scout to the emergency services. As a normal buyer you have to buy the normal Octavia or a Skoda SUV. So that 100% shows that the Scout is the perfect all round vehicle!!!
I fully agree with you. The Mark III version of theOctavia Scout is a hidden gem and I blame Skoda for not promoting its benefits more. The present version of the Scout is a big disappointment compared to its predecessor.
Lol good review with a healthy amount of sarcasm😁 I own a 2015 manual Scout and I have no (not much) complaint! The car looks good in my opinion and it looks better than the newest one, you get decent fuel economy for a 2.0 diesel, you got plenty room, it's not bad with its performance and it's pretty good handling! However, I have rust,on a 7yrs old car, Skoda doesn't care as it didn't have the prescribed body inspection so the warranty isn't valid... Apart from that I'm happy with it! It also has more ground clearance than this and the Haldex system is pretty good when you need it. I'd not buy the new scout though, even if it was available in the UK!
@@MarekDrivesENG yeah it is and the inspection guy didn't even log a claim as the warranty department would reject it anyways. So my advice, if you buy a Skoda, get the inspection done by them!
Hi Marek absolutely !!!yes there’s a place…Subaru outback is extremely popular in North America for a very good reasons …If you must drive some where in a middle of a snow storm Subaru is the car for you!!!
We have a company car - one of the first ones of the manufacturing line. Besides alll of the issues it has - the most problems we have is with the running gear. The suspension is so underdampened and undersprung it is dangerous to drive. The stability and driving program is not setup correctly for this car and the practicality of it... sry - but it is just sad. And Yes - the old scout was OK car. In comparison to this mode - the old scout was a goood car.
I've been a fan of the segment ever since the original Volvo Crosscountry when I was a kid in the 90's. I now drive a Passat Alltrack and had an Insignia Country Tourer before that. The V90 CC is the obvious choice in the segment, until you ask my bank account anyway. My (2018) Alltrack has the same hesitation when pulling away, especially after cold starting. Sometimes it's so bad I'm beginning to think there's something going on with the DSG.
I love the raised estates, especially if AWD as well. Outback...A4 allroad...love them. Corolla TREK is great too, but on the fuel economy side, no AWD, at least not at the moment.
Your introduction warmed my heart, I want to go living on your planet of choice! This we are in is not any more for true car fans, perhaps not even for true cars in the near future? Thanks Marek, lovely review of course, what else?
I hope the issues with the Octavia have been sorted now because the Kph and MPH issue,auto braking issue and other issues have been dreadful and prompted me to go back to the Superb.
@@MarekDrivesENG I would say, within price and offer, nothing at all. In Poland, the current octavia is lead. Very rare to see Subaru competing. Interior of Subaru also feels very outdated, maybe winning with seats quality. Still, as far as I remember, petrol engine far from economic vs skoda (maybe I'm wrong here).
If I buy a SUV or that kind of cars will be 4x4. I can't buy a car with the correct altitude to go off road and can't go because is doesn't has traction.
I don't do used cars. It's a whole different world out there. But you're talking 14 years old. A car that old could be anything, depending on who used it before.
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That's a shame. The old scout was a really useful car and looked good too.
A shame it's not kept a more rugged and practical character... I think the old model had 30mm more ground clearance than the regular octavia which still isn't loads, but enough to make a bit of a difference. 15mm on this new one couples with a silly bumper is a bit of a joke. I'm considering getting a 2nd hand raised 4wd estate so may buy a second hand older model. If buying new I would probably end up buying an SUV as the options just aren't great these days.
I am surprised Skoda are now offering a front wheel only variant. It sort of spoils the Scout name. I have an early Scout, and that has 178mm of ground clearance as I do use mine off road. Also, I prefer the earlier Haldex system both on and off road. In my opinion, I think the later cars are a disappointment especially when the computer limits your acceleration torque, which is important when towing. I tow a transporter trailer with rally car, and a camp trailer, (not both at the same time). I think I will stick with my older model Scout because a raised estate with the 4x4 and ground clearance is important to me and it returns better MPG than a Subaru.
Yeah, this new one barely looks any different from an ordinary Octavia :( Superb is still OKish, but last I checked it was offered only with the most powerful engines, making it dreadfully expensive.
I fully agree.
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Love your reviews . Well done. Estate cars are cool which is not the case with lardy SUV
Glad you like them!
Would you accept a lifted estate or just a regular one?
@@MarekDrives Have a Seat Leon Cupra ST at the moment . Superb car . I might look at a lifted estate but I really don’t need anything but an estate car. I have two greyhounds and I like the low loading lip of an estate. When people buy SUV they don’t realise how high some of these loading lips are . Then their poor old fat Labrador can’t just hop in ! Lol
I put my money where my mouth is by buying a high specced Hyundai i30 Hatchback. Of course, I never bought the i40 and now it's gone. Most likely I would have bought a i40 if still available and updated.
Superb review again Marek. Why buy a Audi A4 estate if you can buy this.
I was thoroughly bored in the current A4, and Audi stopped talking to me after that :)
It's Octavia, not Superb ;) Just joking, had to make that pun.
You did not mention how this different suspension feels compared to the standard, and your sarcasm is a bit annoying, but nice review.
It doesn't IMO.
I own an Audi A4 Avant with a 6 cylinder and I love it but when I drive it after a snow, especially when we go up north on the dirt roads to cottages the bottom drags through the snow. I like the A4 Allroad but it means buying new, and it's kind of a premium over the Q5. I wish I could find one a year or 2 old. As for this Skoda? Meh. It's kind of the same as a VW but is it that much cheaper to make it worth buying over the VW?
So Skoda usually makes slightly bigger cars than their VW counterparts, so this may be a Golf competitor, but in terms of size it's between the Golf and the Passat, making it a more compelling proposition to many. Scout business aside.
@@MarekDrives does this car come with a more powerful engine?
44.000 eur for Škoda Octavia ?? That s a good joke :-)
What about the suspension set up on this model, compared to the standard Octavia?
Different shocks and springs that give you 1.5 cm more ground clearance, but as far as I can tell this is the same stuff you get on the rough-road package, along with underbody protection.
@@MarekDrives is the suspension comfort, road noise any different than in the regular model?
If feels the same Skoda meh.
I don't like ur sarcasm and i don't like ur judgment about this car in general. U're probably trying do get somewhere with your point of view but it's not working. Try something else for ur own sake.
I preferred to buy a "raised estate" and really liked the Octavia 3 Facelift Scout and the Superb 3 Facelift Scout. Still, their price was the same as Mitsubishi Outlander III, which had more options and 19 cm ground clearance, compared to the 17 cm of the scouts. So I checked the Kodiaq, and its price was almost 5k euro more than the Outlander for the Edition or Scout trims. Not to mention the interest on the Skoda's was above 2.4%, while the Mitsubishi had a fixed rate of 1.59%. I mean... who would pick a raised estate when the SUV is the same money, and it offers more? I hated SUVs until... well, they left me no choice but to buy one because I need a lot of cargo area, 7 seats, and like to visit mountains with dirt roads.
Just ordered today. There is no sensible choice and actually I was gliding between absolutely shitty Duster which is offering return to middle 90's and astromically expensive German brands and Volvo. There was also test drive of new Suzuki SX4 but due to cheap interior with unacceptable noise level,we decided to leave over 40k€ for this 4x4 estate in nearest Skoda dealership. Hopefully well spend money and great opportunity to "say goodbye" for Opel insignia which was an absolute mistake
I think that these 4x4 wagons are all normal man (or family?) can ask for. Best allrounders out there. Majority of people doesn't need 4x4 anyway. It is better looking, it has bigger booth and lower consumption while having better handling comparing to SUVs. It is sad that they are quite pricey. SUVs? Ok, why not, once i got problems with my back. Luckily, i am not there yet, until then, "normal" cars all the way.
On the other hand i have to admit that E-class is ugly AF :|
I love my 184 dsg scout !
I have a 2015 Skoda Octavia Scout 184 bhp with DSG and love it. I bought it new with many extras (€9,000 worth), so I have many extra comforts and safety features not normally standard on other Scouts. 232,000 kms over the last 8 years have been totally problem free, and the occasional light offroad experiences were also enjoyable. I wouldn't change it for the world. In a nutshell, I ❤❤❤ it !
nice review but it is a bit off. Seems you have some personal grudge against 2021 Octavia Scout lol. This car looks nice, way better than the previous generations. In fact this is the peak design for Octavia overall. And nobody gives a damn about 4x4 off-roading in an estate. You buy an SUV for that. People buy Octavia Scout because it looks better than a regular 2021 Octavia Estate.
I have a 2011 Octavia 2 Scout. So far very little complaints with the car, the raised height got me off a few tricky situations unscathed so far. It's not a true off road vehicle, but for bad roads in Romania and snow etc. it's perfect. Sad to see the new model doesn't live up to the old one.
Thank you for your honest and unbiased review, I've been watching other more "mainstream" reviews and they are nothing but praise, disappointing.
Thank you.
I just moved back to the US after selling my Volvo V70 overseas. I was going to buy a Tiguan because I thought that is what my wife wants. She then informed me how stupid she thinks CUVS are and asked if we can get a wagon!? Well used cars are crazy expensive so we ended up with a 2022 Subaru Outback XT (2.4 turbo with 260 hp) and we are so happy. 😁 that being said the Outback is just as tall as the Tiguan and has more ground clearance than most suvs. The downside is that it’s thirsty but gas is much cheaper than when we lived in Germany so I will deal with it to save the wagons!
Coming back from Europe to US fuel economy standards must be a shocker :)
I'm not an expert like you, but it looks just like the normal estate to my untutored eye. Great review, as usual.
It does, unfortunately.
@@MarekDrives Bring back the Yeti, Skoda.
A wagon/estate, with a raised ground clearance, and AWD, is really such a rare species. SUV are highly overrated. When it comes to practicality, looks to me SUV still loses out to wagon/estate in term of space, and practicality, especially the boot space of a wagon/estate vehicles. Also SUV are much higher in the ground, making it more prone to body roll and it is still not as stable and comfortable as a sedan/wagon.
The station wagon will survive only in this crossover form and with 4 wheel drive. A wagon is an honest car that doesn't pretend to be anything else that it is. A family car with added capabilities.
The perfect example is the Subaru Outback in the US. Americans simply hate wagons and few only exist on the market, but the Outback sells like crazy. And no, the Outback is not an SUV, it's a wagon. So there! That will be the future for any wagon in Europe.
Kudos for the new graphic design additions to your videos. Minor, personal remark: I would delete the useless, uninteresting background elevator music in your videos. Skoda Octavia 4x4 Scout is the only good option but mega expensive so pointless. P.S. Simca Matra rocks!
In the UK Skoda only sell the Octavia Scout to the emergency services. As a normal buyer you have to buy the normal Octavia or a Skoda SUV. So that 100% shows that the Scout is the perfect all round vehicle!!!
I fully agree with you. The Mark III version of theOctavia Scout is a hidden gem and I blame Skoda for not promoting its benefits more. The present version of the Scout is a big disappointment compared to its predecessor.
Lol good review with a healthy amount of sarcasm😁
I own a 2015 manual Scout and I have no (not much) complaint! The car looks good in my opinion and it looks better than the newest one, you get decent fuel economy for a 2.0 diesel, you got plenty room, it's not bad with its performance and it's pretty good handling! However, I have rust,on a 7yrs old car, Skoda doesn't care as it didn't have the prescribed body inspection so the warranty isn't valid... Apart from that I'm happy with it! It also has more ground clearance than this and the Haldex system is pretty good when you need it. I'd not buy the new scout though, even if it was available in the UK!
Rust on a 7 yr old car? That sucks.
@@MarekDrivesENG yeah it is and the inspection guy didn't even log a claim as the warranty department would reject it anyways. So my advice, if you buy a Skoda, get the inspection done by them!
It's much better to see a critical review, than a glossy one.
Hi Marek absolutely !!!yes there’s a place…Subaru outback is extremely popular in North America for a very good reasons …If you must drive some where in a middle of a snow storm Subaru is the car for you!!!
We have a company car - one of the first ones of the manufacturing line.
Besides alll of the issues it has - the most problems we have is with the running gear. The suspension is so underdampened and undersprung it is dangerous to drive. The stability and driving program is not setup correctly for this car and the practicality of it... sry - but it is just sad. And Yes - the old scout was OK car. In comparison to this mode - the old scout was a goood car.
I've been a fan of the segment ever since the original Volvo Crosscountry when I was a kid in the 90's. I now drive a Passat Alltrack and had an Insignia Country Tourer before that.
The V90 CC is the obvious choice in the segment, until you ask my bank account anyway.
My (2018) Alltrack has the same hesitation when pulling away, especially after cold starting. Sometimes it's so bad I'm beginning to think there's something going on with the DSG.
No, I think it's their post-dieselgate way of managing emissions. They used to be much more responsive in the past.
A test pl. ?
I love the raised estates, especially if AWD as well. Outback...A4 allroad...love them. Corolla TREK is great too, but on the fuel economy side, no AWD, at least not at the moment.
l like this style its perfect, l just wish they sold them over here in Panama,C,America.
Your introduction warmed my heart, I want to go living on your planet of choice! This we are in is not any more for true car fans, perhaps not even for true cars in the near future? Thanks Marek, lovely review of course, what else?
I hope the issues with the Octavia have been sorted now because the Kph and MPH issue,auto braking issue and other issues have been dreadful and prompted me to go back to the Superb.
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Don't worry , Marek. The Dacia Jogger will show that there is such a market for estate on heels, just it has to be adequately priced...
I wonder if Dacia Jogger won't fall into the people-carrier-turned-SUV category, like the recent iterations of the Scenic or the 5008.
Marek is good, with a dose of right humor ;)
I don't want to live on this planet anymore. Hehe, with you here, my friend. Loved the joke...though not only a joke
I Got one for six months and it is only happyness specialy in the mud, where crossclimate tyres are very efficient 😊
Marek what would be your recomendacja instead of octavia scout?
Not much of a choice really. Probably a Subaru.
@@MarekDrivesENG I would say, within price and offer, nothing at all. In Poland, the current octavia is lead. Very rare to see Subaru competing. Interior of Subaru also feels very outdated, maybe winning with seats quality. Still, as far as I remember, petrol engine far from economic vs skoda (maybe I'm wrong here).
subaru legacy's better
If I buy a SUV or that kind of cars will be 4x4. I can't buy a car with the correct altitude to go off road and can't go because is doesn't has traction.
There’s now the C-Klasse All-Terrain, a baby E-Klasse All-Terrain.
Is there? And I thought they ended the experiment with the E Class AT.
@@MarekDrives Yes there is.
I just saw it on Autogefühl but only briefly as their reviewers are so dull.
My 2019 Skoda Scala has the same squeaky door handels. The noise is very annoing and disturbing.
Better than an SUV.
Forgot about the outback. At least the first and second gen :). Unfortunately Subaru seems to be lagging behind lately..
44k and only front wheel drive?! No tks!
44 is this with AWD. The FWD starts at 33k.
@@MarekDrives FWD 1.5TSI Petrol starts at 25k euro
@@danielpin7472 Not the scout version though
@@zmirc Manual. At least used to be since they updated pricing list and removed Manual Transmission
Why not keep everything in one place? Good one!!!
Where is the Mini Countryman review?!!! I saw the photo at your Instagram account and would love to see you reviewing it!
Soon :-)
Good evening, Do you think 2009 is a good year for this car? Which year is the best for the Skoda Octavia Scout? Thanks
I don't do used cars. It's a whole different world out there. But you're talking 14 years old. A car that old could be anything, depending on who used it before.
In my opinion the best year for the skoda Octavia Scout is 2015.
Simply pointless
Great review Marek
i am 58 years old and i never needed 4 whells drive.
I suppose sometimes it's safer to just turn around and stay home :)
@@MarekDrives yes, just leave car inj the garage and take skies...or donkey...
It also depends on where you live, let's not forget this little detail
Cheap car.....Definately....For homeless people.