30 feels like a good balance to me! I’m getting a bit old and boring so when people talk about out 40kph and speeds above that, I worry about kids and first time riders getting in to trouble
@@sidebusinessblokeI’m thinking of it like this: There are calls being made in some places to drop the speed limit on residential streets to 30 km/h. If we slightly increase the assist speed on Ebikes then they can easily keep pace with the traffic speed if the overall speed limit is dropped.
Wow! Had no idea about this until I just stumbled upon your video! I do food delivery in Sydney, NSW and had no idea that our legal e-bike maximum power output has now doubled! When I'm in the market for a new bike, I'll take that into consideration. As you say though, you'll need more battery power as well, so yeah. My current 250w bike does the job just fine for now, but in time I'll need a new one eventually.
just looked at official site of transport of NSW, it says: " In NSW an e-bike or electric bike has an electric motor and battery that assists a bicycle rider with pedalling up to 25km/h. It can be: a power-assisted pedal bicycle (Pedalec) up to 250 watts that requires the rider to pedal in order to activate the electric motor; or a power-assisted bicycle fitted with a throttle or accelerator up to 200 watts." so may I wonder, where did you get the updated information?
I think that’s how I missed it in the first place, they’ve not done a great job of communicating it. - www.transport.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/bicycle-riders/ebikes
I had no idea the regulations changed so thanks for your video! I can understand why a 500W motor might be handy especially for cargo bikes. I must say my Leitner E bike with a 250W motor and 16Ah battery is fine even for the steeper hills, and you can get really good range if you chip in and put a bit of effort yourself and only use the motor for the hillier bits
@@sidebusinessbloke Definitely! While I haven't ridden it as much as Iike, I've had it for almost 3 years now and it hasn't missed a beat. Also, perhaps by fluke but out of the box the brakes and gears didn't need any adjustments so it was good to go once all assembled
Hi mate...thank you for your very good videos. i have a question please. do you know what i have to do to be legal if i have a ebike over 250w? thanks in advance
Hey thanks mate! As far as I’m aware, you would have to register it as a moped and then have a motorcycle license and insurance etc. If you already own the bike I’m not sure how anyone would be able to tell the max power output if you weren’t going over 25kph.
Love how the rating is "Max 500W continuous" Continuous power is such a dubious rating, because it depends entirely on the speed you're measuring at and what we consider "continuous" Like a high power 72V mid drive might only be able to do 500W continous before you burn up your controller &/or motor if you're in top gear going up a hill... and then pull a few kW peak flat out in a lower gear.
scooters pass me doing 35klm no helmet or lights nite time its all fun till a car swipes you wtf power restrictions on a bike so which karens pull you over for a power check as a scooter zooms by
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They need to increase the assist speed to 30 km/h too
30 feels like a good balance to me! I’m getting a bit old and boring so when people talk about out 40kph and speeds above that, I worry about kids and first time riders getting in to trouble
@@sidebusinessblokeI’m thinking of it like this: There are calls being made in some places to drop the speed limit on residential streets to 30 km/h. If we slightly increase the assist speed on Ebikes then they can easily keep pace with the traffic speed if the overall speed limit is dropped.
Not on bikeways.
Wow! Had no idea about this until I just stumbled upon your video! I do food delivery in Sydney, NSW and had no idea that our legal e-bike maximum power output has now doubled! When I'm in the market for a new bike, I'll take that into consideration. As you say though, you'll need more battery power as well, so yeah. My current 250w bike does the job just fine for now, but in time I'll need a new one eventually.
Yea I missed it too at the time! Defo go for 500w next time. I’m in Vic and I’m hesitant about buying a 250w in case it changes to match NSW.
just looked at official site of transport of NSW, it says:
" In NSW an e-bike or electric bike has an electric motor and battery that assists a bicycle rider with pedalling up to 25km/h. It can be:
a power-assisted pedal bicycle (Pedalec) up to 250 watts that requires the rider to pedal in order to activate the electric motor; or
a power-assisted bicycle fitted with a throttle or accelerator up to 200 watts."
so may I wonder, where did you get the updated information?
I think that’s how I missed it in the first place, they’ve not done a great job of communicating it. - www.transport.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/bicycle-riders/ebikes
@@sidebusinessbloke cool thx, this looks more like official announcement
I regularly get up to 50kmph on my (self-powered) road bike, I dont understand the restriction to such a low speed on an ebike.
I had no idea the regulations changed so thanks for your video! I can understand why a 500W motor might be handy especially for cargo bikes. I must say my Leitner E bike with a 250W motor and 16Ah battery is fine even for the steeper hills, and you can get really good range if you chip in and put a bit of effort yourself and only use the motor for the hillier bits
I know right, they didn’t really broadcast it! 16ah is not bad at all! Which Leitner do you have?
@@sidebusinessbloke it's a Cross X
Good looking bike! Would you recommend?
@@sidebusinessbloke Definitely! While I haven't ridden it as much as Iike, I've had it for almost 3 years now and it hasn't missed a beat. Also, perhaps by fluke but out of the box the brakes and gears didn't need any adjustments so it was good to go once all assembled
Hi mate...thank you for your very good videos. i have a question please. do you know what i have to do to be legal if i have a ebike over 250w? thanks in advance
Hey thanks mate! As far as I’m aware, you would have to register it as a moped and then have a motorcycle license and insurance etc.
If you already own the bike I’m not sure how anyone would be able to tell the max power output if you weren’t going over 25kph.
@@sidebusinessbloke Thanks for your quick reply.
Hi Mate, I just wondering how long does it take to charge those batteries?
Hey mate, it varies but the standard 10-ish amp hour batteries should take about 3 hours. The delivery bikes with bigger batteries will take longer
Is mirror legal in ebike in sydney?
Great question, yes it is 😃
Love how the rating is "Max 500W continuous"
Continuous power is such a dubious rating, because it depends entirely on the speed you're measuring at and what we consider "continuous"
Like a high power 72V mid drive might only be able to do 500W continous before you burn up your controller &/or motor if you're in top gear going up a hill...
and then pull a few kW peak flat out in a lower gear.
I think there is an argument to allow higher power limits on e-cargo bikes as there is in Europe but this ad-hoc approach in NSW just adds confusion.
Oh for sure, going uphill on a fully loaded e-cargo with a 250w motor wouldn't be great
Hi mate, is it legal to have a 1000w but 25km/h speed limit in melbourne vic ? cheers mate.
Unfortunately not mate, it’s currently 500w in NSW and 250w in all other states
@@sidebusinessbloke 😟😟✌mate.
I really hope wa has the speed limit increased by a little
scooters pass me doing 35klm no helmet or lights nite time its all fun till a car swipes you
wtf power restrictions on a bike so which karens pull you over for a power check as a scooter zooms by
get a fat boy or mamba venom double strike if you are in Australia they are both 750w and can be uncapped in 30 seconds and go 50 km
25kmh is a joke I can walk faster than that. It should be at least 50.
No you can't lmfao, who do you think you are?
LoL, you would be lucky to run that fast. If you want a motorbike, buy a motorbike.
You should be in the Olympics for speed walking. 😂😂 What a exaggerated comment
50 on an unregistered unlicensed motorised vehicle. Should be fine lol nothing could go wrong . let kids ride em too why not. 😂😂😂😂