i was confident about the "normal" dtc mode but not the 5sec mode that lets you play totally... lovely to go into my garage now and test it out on my 330d big thanks
I drive a 2006 bmw 330i msport and my car got stuck in my driveway because of the snow. After struggling to move it for a few minutes, I suddenly remember the DTC button which I had never used before today. It worked like magic when I turned it off.
And if you turn out DSC (destination system control) by pushing DTC (destination TRACKING control) your BMW allows you to slip some more and drifts. If you hold "DTC" for a few seconds - your car became no under electronic control. its drifts like noother , In russian winter DSC - the best. Even russian cops sometimes cant get with front weel drive. Try to push DTC only if can hold the car. Do not say, that some bmw cant drift. push DTC button for a few seconds....
Thanks for the explanation. Did I get this right? 1. DTC ON DSC ON : can't spin wheels, can't lose control of car 2. DTC OFF DSC ON: can spin wheels, can't lose control of car 3. DTC OFF DSC OFF: can spin wheels, can lose control of car So the real play mode is #3 everything off, I guess ? EDIT: point #2
I have E90 318i (same color, looks almost identical, lol) and my answers for you my friend: 1. It's ultra hard to lose control, these systems work perfectly. It's both stability (not letting the engine rev once slip is detected) and the traction (braking wheels individually). 2. It's easier to lose control, but not that much. However, if you will go into a corner too fast in order to "drift", DTC help might not be enough to recover you. It's a decent help, but stay safe and reasonable. The guy didn't mention one thing: the DTC is designed to provide max torque, given the current grip. It will allow you for some wheelspin, the car will shoot forward wildly. Still, once your drifts will fail, the traction will brake down the wheels individually, but the revs are not blocked as much. I had a situation, where I tried a drift on a right corner, it pushed me too much to the left and I FELT that both front left and rear left wheels were braking down. It helped a lot. Still, the car can be a bit wild, so that's what you should only for the majority of the time. 3. Think twice before you will switch off the DSC. The car can go really wild. Use it only for drifts/donuts on an open space, where there is no risk of hitting something. I don't recommend using it for a normal corner drift, since you CAN lose control (the car is wilder than my old E36 316i 1.9) and nothing will help you. With DTC - you will have that last help.
Thanks I didn’t know about the third option by holding it, I usually use the dtc for when it rains heavily on the freeway and you do notice a difference and it helps a lot
What I've noticed to my car is, on DSC mode the stability control acts on the brakes to reduce wheel spin and to set the car on a desired track and also acts on the engine throttle inputs to reduce wheel spin as well. DTC seems to do the same thing except it doesn't limit the engine power so it can brake the wheel that looses traction or stabilize if needed. But not sure here, it may depend on the model. For my x1, on snow you still cant push the rpm higher than 2500rpm when the wheels spin freely. So it allows a bit more power to the wheels. The third mode, comes when long pressing the dtc and deactivates the stability control completely. So if one wheel spins freely the car won't take any action. During the winter through deep snow I 've got significantly better results driving with the dsc off. At low speed it is also very easy to control the car.
I bought a bmw 5 days ago and i’ve been bugging on this system light on my dashboard for the longest.. plus i’ve had little to no control over the cars steering and since its my first rwd car i wanna first drive safely😅 thanks for the video
By default dtc is off and dsc is on, press the button once dtc turns on dsc turns off, so it’s reversed, press and hold button both functions are turned off - as I understand it
with all on, the power cut from the systems would make you slower than just losing some grip. So for fastest to 60, just press it once. With DSC pressed once, the car doesn't let you go full crazy on it anyway. It would lose SOME grip and it will be more than happy to go a little bit sideways in corners, but you will never lose control.
I have experienced my best 0-60 times with DSC and traction control off combined with revving it at 2,000 RPM then letting off. It can be easy to over rev and just over spin on the launch. Key is to launch with a low RPM and you'll have all the grip you need with traction control off.
on winter and on snow if you deactivate dtc or dsc and you will floor it yu'll gonna make ice under the weels and you will remain stuck. the last thing that you uant on snow with a light-weight rear car is to make wheelspin. More than that with a car without LSD. it will make ice under one of the wheels and all the torque will go there. So DON"T deactivate any of the safety features unless you want to play with the car. it will do worst if u try to deactivate it in a stuck situation.
My driveway is really uphill and it has a tight corner. Every time i try to get to the road the right type spins couple of times with DTC on ( its a right turn ) and bogs which makes the car jerky . Which mode should i use to get up my driveway?My family is really pissed because the driveway is made of cobblestone and it now has tons of tire-marks. Never had a problem with any other car since its the first non-fwd we've had.
so I think that in your case you have to press only once on the dtc buton to turn off the dtc itself and let the dsc running. Then you won't have any problem on that road and the engine will not be cutoff .try it and then tell me the result please :)
Does it work the same way for pre lci models too? I got a 2005 318i and i didnt know about the 5sec push function. Does it show that all systems are off without the idrive screen? Thx for the good explanation 👍🏼
Why i press mine but it doesn't do anything? My car doesn't have the screen it's a 328xi 2008, idk if it's on all the time or if it's not working, I've been driving it in sport mode cause it saves more gas, and idk how to deactivate it
My e60 520d slips (tries to unnecessarily drift itself 😀 on normal city roads) when there’s some snow... does dsc/dtc needs to be disable in such weather conditions? 🤔
I heard the car has an electronical LSD, not sure in which mode, probably in DTC mode (click the button once). It works simply but breaking down the wheel that spins faster, so that both wheels should spin with the same speed = both wheels spinning ~~ LSD effect.
That's right - the braking based LSD effect will happen if you have it on default or if you do the short press. If you hold down the button you get no brake based limited slip - which means if you want a limited slip effect while not having stability control then hard luck :(
it was just started and it was a little bit cold inside , so the first thing that I do I turn it up to 28 and wait for 5 to 10 minutes , after that it's all good .
I'm sorry but I'm friends with a bmw technician and I even googled it yes your right about what it's name means which I knew already I'm a huge car enthusiasts dtc is made for going to the track and or need extra traction how ever its main purpose is for the track and racing Google it it's in the definition
Reading these comments makes me wonder if y’all even read the goddamn owners manual. This is pretty much common knowledge in any car be it american or Euro.
@@DrMeize you do know it doesn't make the car warm up inside any faster? If you want 21 degrees celcius it will warm up just as fast set at 21 as 28. It automatically warms up to the desired temp without having to put it much hotter like old systems.Thats how climate control works 😉👍
@@DrMeize because 28 deg is mega warm to set it at ( thats like a mega hot summers day in Scotland) then I assumed by your reply you set it high in the belief that it would make the car interior warm up faster. Which it doesn't, which is what I replied explaining how the system works.
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Finally someone who explained and showed what DTC means."Playmode" I like that :D
glad that helped !!
Lol
Lol
Finally someone to really explain DTC using 'english' not heavy terms
I did learn something today i did the one u hold for 5 sec did some sick ass burn outs. Thanks man been wanting to do it and ots manual
Try with an automatic... Manual is to easy..
Thank you for the tutorial....I never knew about the 5 second push to disable totally. Very helpful.
big thx 2 :D
Me either Lmaooo
i was confident about the "normal" dtc mode but not the 5sec mode that lets you play totally... lovely to go into my garage now and test it out on my 330d big thanks
only ABS is already active
I drive a 2006 bmw 330i msport and my car got stuck in my driveway because of the snow. After struggling to move it for a few minutes, I suddenly remember the DTC button which I had never used before today. It worked like magic when I turned it off.
try to hold that button for a few second. DTC - unactive. DSC/DTC/No/ If you hold that button for a few seconds, n46 powered bmw can drift.
Noewer, like russian winter. X5 - get frosen,cant open, battery was dead....
And if you turn out DSC (destination system control) by pushing DTC (destination TRACKING control) your BMW allows you to slip some more and drifts. If you hold "DTC" for a few seconds - your car became no under electronic control. its drifts like noother , In russian winter DSC - the best. Even russian cops sometimes cant get with front weel drive. Try to push DTC only if can hold the car. Do not say, that some bmw cant drift. push DTC button for a few seconds....
Reading that somebody has a 330i and never used this button makes my heart bleed.
this makes so much more sense than any video i’ve watched, thankyou so much
:) glad it helped :D
Thanks for the explanation. Did I get this right?
1. DTC ON DSC ON : can't spin wheels, can't lose control of car
2. DTC OFF DSC ON: can spin wheels, can't lose control of car
3. DTC OFF DSC OFF: can spin wheels, can lose control of car
So the real play mode is #3 everything off, I guess ?
EDIT: point #2
exactly !:)
Urbandriver thanks man! When I read the documentation of my e92 330i, it wasn't clear to me. Now it makes sense :-).
No, 2 is DTC OFF DSC ON.
dalilrafi ok thanks, so #2 is a bit of wheel spin for fun but can't lose control of car. cheers buddy
I have E90 318i (same color, looks almost identical, lol) and my answers for you my friend:
1. It's ultra hard to lose control, these systems work perfectly. It's both stability (not letting the engine rev once slip is detected) and the traction (braking wheels individually).
2. It's easier to lose control, but not that much. However, if you will go into a corner too fast in order to "drift", DTC help might not be enough to recover you. It's a decent help, but stay safe and reasonable. The guy didn't mention one thing: the DTC is designed to provide max torque, given the current grip. It will allow you for some wheelspin, the car will shoot forward wildly. Still, once your drifts will fail, the traction will brake down the wheels individually, but the revs are not blocked as much. I had a situation, where I tried a drift on a right corner, it pushed me too much to the left and I FELT that both front left and rear left wheels were braking down. It helped a lot.
Still, the car can be a bit wild, so that's what you should only for the majority of the time.
3. Think twice before you will switch off the DSC. The car can go really wild. Use it only for drifts/donuts on an open space, where there is no risk of hitting something. I don't recommend using it for a normal corner drift, since you CAN lose control (the car is wilder than my old E36 316i 1.9) and nothing will help you. With DTC - you will have that last help.
Me before watching this video:
What is this button for?
Me after watching this video:
IS TIME TO HAVE FUN!
Thanks I didn’t know about the third option by holding it, I usually use the dtc for when it rains heavily on the freeway and you do notice a difference and it helps a lot
Do never use dtc in high speeds ;)
Urbandriver unless youre racing :)
True :)
Urbandriver so taking off DSC and traction control gives you a faster launch?
That’s the dumbest comment I’ve ever read in my life. In that situation you keep all safety features on.
Dumbass
What I've noticed to my car is, on DSC mode the stability control acts on the brakes to reduce wheel spin and to set the car on a desired track and also acts on the engine throttle inputs to reduce wheel spin as well.
DTC seems to do the same thing except it doesn't limit the engine power so it can brake the wheel that looses traction or stabilize if needed. But not sure here, it may depend on the model. For my x1, on snow you still cant push the rpm higher than 2500rpm when the wheels spin freely. So it allows a bit more power to the wheels.
The third mode, comes when long pressing the dtc and deactivates the stability control completely. So if one wheel spins freely the car won't take any action.
During the winter through deep snow I 've got significantly better results driving with the dsc off. At low speed it is also very easy to control the car.
Excellent video the guy went the extra mile by doing a comparison at the end 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Big thx man !!
I bought a bmw 5 days ago and i’ve been bugging on this system light on my dashboard for the longest.. plus i’ve had little to no control over the cars steering and since its my first rwd car i wanna first drive safely😅 thanks for the video
Glad I could help
Very well explained I specially loved the way u demonstrated it
big thx !
very good review. thank you for all the explanations.
Thx a lot man !
my car skid in ma last week worcestor storm..i got strange noise while braking..in 7in snow/ice..great video..will turn DTC ON
By default dtc is off and dsc is on, press the button once dtc turns on dsc turns off, so it’s reversed, press and hold button both functions are turned off - as I understand it
Buna explicatia mult noroc la mai multe video
mc mult :)
You just gave candy to a baby. Thank you kind sir.
Merci frumos, noroc.
I literally saw this button a few times, I had no idea what it did as my 318i is my first car…no I fucking know 👀👀 playtime starts now
How do you get the fastest 0-60 time? Push the DTC button once or leave it all on?
with all on, the power cut from the systems would make you slower than just losing some grip. So for fastest to 60, just press it once. With DSC pressed once, the car doesn't let you go full crazy on it anyway. It would lose SOME grip and it will be more than happy to go a little bit sideways in corners, but you will never lose control.
I have experienced my best 0-60 times with DSC and traction control off combined with revving it at 2,000 RPM then letting off. It can be easy to over rev and just over spin on the launch. Key is to launch with a low RPM and you'll have all the grip you need with traction control off.
Antonio Mendoza so taking off DSC and traction control gives you basically a faster launch correct ?
Raymond Perez only if you're good at feathering the gas, otherwise just one click works best.
Great explanation, thank you!
Is it the same for an awd model will I still be able to do a few burnouts or is that only in red models
I find I get better grip in the snow with DTC off
(Dash light on)
That was what I was saying in the video :))
@@DrMeize I thought the etc button meant disable traction control
Awesome video very informative and explained easily so i understand thanks!!
I learned something. Thanks so much
Thx man
Thank you Urbandriver!, at last articulated explaination...
big thx also
Exactly .. finally i found a helpful video .. it's exactly what I was looking for?
Nice video, off the point but how did you upgrade your maps? Do you maybe have a link to a video?
I did a dealer update with my car s fsc code , maybe i will do a video about that
This is really cool I just bought an 07 328i... I have the DTC button on my dash. Does my year work the same way>>>?
Yes !;)
Merci. Nu stiam nici faza cu apasatul 5sec pt all off.
Thank you 🎉
If the 2nd option is “play-mode,” I will call your 3rd option “crazy mode.”
great video , thank you
Does Dtc work as good in automatic? Or should I put my car in manual mode with the paddle shifters and keep it at low gear?
Works as good in auto
One day you'll hit puberty, become a man, and then buy a manual.
Good video, thansk for posting
big thx :D
It doesn't cut off the power..it actually breaks
Frumos explicat.
thx!!
I usually keep mine "off" until i feel like driving sporty. Sometimes i activate DTC when the car needs the wheelspin
This guy sounds like jean claude van dam
:)) funny af
Hy,if i drive on the snow road which option is better number 3 or number 2? thanks
if all you do is snow , do nothing , to be really protected you should have all the systems working , don t turn off nothing
idemooo za beograd brateeee
on winter and on snow if you deactivate dtc or dsc and you will floor it yu'll gonna make ice under the weels and you will remain stuck. the last thing that you uant on snow with a light-weight rear car is to make wheelspin. More than that with a car without LSD. it will make ice under one of the wheels and all the torque will go there. So DON"T deactivate any of the safety features unless you want to play with the car. it will do worst if u try to deactivate it in a stuck situation.
in winter and snow you will use second gear to get moving ;) dont press the pedal like a nood to make ice unde the wheells :)
Good explanation
thx a lot man !
My driveway is really uphill and it has a tight corner. Every time i try to get to the road the right type spins couple of times with DTC on ( its a right turn ) and bogs which makes the car jerky . Which mode should i use to get up my driveway?My family is really pissed because the driveway is made of cobblestone and it now has tons of tire-marks. Never had a problem with any other car since its the first non-fwd we've had.
so I think that in your case you have to press only once on the dtc buton to turn off the dtc itself and let the dsc running. Then you won't have any problem on that road and the engine will not be cutoff .try it and then tell me the result please :)
Thank you. I will try it when it stops raining to check the results!
@@FalseShxpherd did it stop raining bro?
@@Unrest911 Hahah. It still spins but it doesnt bog. Took me a bit to reply.
@@FalseShxpherd hahah glad to hear
At last, thank you!
thx !
Does it work the same way for pre lci models too?
I got a 2005 318i and i didnt know about the 5sec push function.
Does it show that all systems are off without the idrive screen?
Thx for the good explanation 👍🏼
Yep
Why i press mine but it doesn't do anything? My car doesn't have the screen it's a 328xi 2008, idk if it's on all the time or if it's not working, I've been driving it in sport mode cause it saves more gas, and idk how to deactivate it
Lol buy a manual, son.
Thanks fer the learnin’
Any time!
my 335i just kangarood 3 times ...setting of in 1st (power cut 3 times ) ...is this the traction working the traction light did flash
Yes
This is helpful
glad it helped !
1 wow I did not know I could deactivate it all together
thank you boss
You're welcome!
Thanks man 🙏
Thank You!
I love you from 2021
big thxxx !!
good video
So all the systems off option is like a more aggresive dtc on, dsc off option?
Yep
I have a e93 320i when I have dtc and stability off it doesn’t seem to make any difference the wheels still won’t spin
you are to soft with the clutch ;))
Is your car RWD or does it have xdrive
Rwd
My e60 520d slips (tries to unnecessarily drift itself 😀 on normal city roads) when there’s some snow... does dsc/dtc needs to be disable in such weather conditions? 🤔
Nope the car is suposed to run with them activated so don t press any button ;)
@@DrMeize lol
Ok, thanks😀
so playmode at all the times "D
In viraje mai strânse în care ai si viteza, ai sansa sa pierzi controlul cu DTC activat și DSC Restricționat?
Nu , doar daca ai totul dezactivat dtc trebuie sa fie on pt stabilitate imbunatoatita
Sorry, to be safe. DTC on, no drift
DTC off, drift right?
Ty :) lets playmode
I love E90 330d m sport 2008 UK
yep ..a good car :)
Thank you 🤜🏾🤛🏾
Any time!
Open diff lyfe :(
Yep :( I wish for a limslip also :d
I heard the car has an electronical LSD, not sure in which mode, probably in DTC mode (click the button once). It works simply but breaking down the wheel that spins faster, so that both wheels should spin with the same speed = both wheels spinning ~~ LSD effect.
That's right - the braking based LSD effect will happen if you have it on default or if you do the short press. If you hold down the button you get no brake based limited slip - which means if you want a limited slip effect while not having stability control then hard luck :(
Dude thank 🙏 👏 u
Happy to help
thank's boss.
how does this work with xdrive?
the same ;)
Is it possible to deactivated DTC without deactivated DSG?
Dsg ?!is a term for vag cars ..
Thank you...
Why is button looks like the slip symbol is it the same thing?
I dont understand the question .. what button ?
@@DrMeize
On my e90 the dtc button looks like a whoosy washy thing like a drift
in what country is your car made ?
260 on the dash is krazy 😭
too bad you could not reach it in normal mode
Terry Village
Is that grey car an xDrive?
nope ...rear wheel only
28°C? Must be warm in your car....
it was just started and it was a little bit cold inside , so the first thing that I do I turn it up to 28 and wait for 5 to 10 minutes , after that it's all good .
Dupa accent vad că ești român 😂😂
vezi ca este si clip despre asta
Fain că explici da puteai să faci și în Română
thx man !!
Ar fii o ideie bună să faci paralel și ro și eng mai mulți abonați vizionări etc! #baftă
we will see :)
Is that a diesel? The RPM’s seem low
Seems ?!:))
Tnx
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english ...
I'm sorry but I'm friends with a bmw technician and I even googled it yes your right about what it's name means which I knew already I'm a huge car enthusiasts dtc is made for going to the track and or need extra traction how ever its main purpose is for the track and racing Google it it's in the definition
Este vreo diferenta la xi ?
Nope ;)
Song name please?
original yt song ...
song name?
It s an youtube proprietary track
Thanks for the explanation man! Manual or automatic gearbox though? Cause I have an automatic gearbox and i really do not want do fuck it up 🤣🙈
It does not matter the gearbox , the principle is the same . But even more if you have auto it s more safer because it will auto corect it s self
@@DrMeize thanks a lot mate❤
In sf stiu si eu ce sa nu apas
yey :)
Reading these comments makes me wonder if y’all even read the goddamn owners manual. This is pretty much common knowledge in any car be it american or Euro.
Serioussly ?! How many of new owners read the entire manual .. when do you have time to so it tho …
I never read any manuals but with my E92 Coupe, I was so excited that I read it. Still your explanation @urbandriver makes more sense than manual. LOL
You have it set at 28 degree on your climate control..... I'd melt 🤣🤣
it was only started !!:)) and it was cold , but do remember it s celsius
@@DrMeize you do know it doesn't make the car warm up inside any faster? If you want 21 degrees celcius it will warm up just as fast set at 21 as 28. It automatically warms up to the desired temp without having to put it much hotter like old systems.Thats how climate control works 😉👍
Yep you are right ... so why did you brought it up in the first place then ?:))
@@DrMeize because 28 deg is mega warm to set it at ( thats like a mega hot summers day in Scotland) then I assumed by your reply you set it high in the belief that it would make the car interior warm up faster. Which it doesn't, which is what I replied explaining how the system works.
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U need a xdrive bruhh
Nee...
Plm doar din fundal mi-am dat seama ca e in romania...
Pai se potriveste cu numele tau :)
Esti român
nu stiu ce sa iti raspund :))
Ro:D
The worst explanation even
thx