lol i just read your comment from a month ago yesterday when someone ask you to review this lens and you said it's hard to find and here we are. cheers.
Very honest review. And again I like it. I own 35fe auto for Sony and so far there is no competition in price vs quality. Anyway luv your reviews abaut lenses and camera's. Thanks for your job 📸
Chris, I picked up this lens off Amazon. Samyang 35mm 1.2 My copy is fabulous. It's heavy but beautiful. Its body and focus ring is EXACTLY like the 50mm and 85mm. All 3 lenses are identical except for the focal length. My lens doesn't have the red ring or text. Thank you for your review!! Love it! Blessings!! oh, big difference between between 1.2 & 1.4 in regards to darkened corners. I used it on my Canon 5D3. Wonderful wonderful lens. Image quality is super sharp even at 1.2. Blessings my friend.
hi James,I have the 14,50 and 85 XP lens...I'm really happy,they are fabulous!I have order the 35 XP on Amazon,this one have red ring and text (my 3 other XP do not) and i have return it to Amazon...My copy was catastrophic!!A lot of coma and chromatic aberation...This lens was completly different as my 3 other XP lens....Bad copy??
@@exocett8163 Really?? Must be a bad copy. I'm so very sorry! Mine looks exactly like the 50mm and 85mm. Rubber focus (non-ribbed) grip, grey text, etc. can't tell the difference between the 3. Return it can get the grey text one. I see Amazon has it for $200 less than the red ringed one. I'm really shocked. I'm surprised its a bad copy. Btw, how is the 14mm? I'm looking in to that one.
@@jamesmonahan9408 Ok,I'm an astrophotographer,the 14 XP is very very good!The best 14mm for stars shooting ( no coma),better than 14 art lens on this point.If you prefer aurora ,go for the 14 1.8 art.I'm really sad for my 35xp copy,i expected something like the 3 other...I will order another (grey ring and text) 35 XP sample...
@@exocett8163 oh very cool. I could use it for weddings/events OR astro photog. I like the 14mm fish eye for events or groups. Thank you! Yes return the red ring lens and get the grey lettered one. Its crazy great.
I think their XP 85mm was such perfection that It will be hard to ever beat. That thing was sharp to the corners at f1.2. How is the ghosting in lower contrast scenarios ?
Chris, thank you for your review. Personally I find it difficult to manually focus such a lens, unless I had some kind of a visual aid in the viewfinder.
I wonder if the contrast and color fringing issues you're seeing is just the nature of the beast when it comes to having apertures that side open. I think to have zero lost contrast or distortion would require absolutely pristine glass, especially when you're talking about the pixel densities on your two cameras, which would raise the cost substantially over it's 800 USD price point.
Chris have you considered looking at focal reducers or specialty adapters? As a lover of multiple systems and multiple sensor sizes, they've been invaluable to me.
For full frame e-mount or L mount cameras the full frame Sigma 35mm f/1.2 is a better choice. It has a similar size and weight, it is designed for mirrorless cameras but is much more expensive.
35mm being your favorite focal length, if one day you find the initerest in the m43, I recommend you to check the Olympus Zuiko 17mm f/1.2. Best regards from the Netherlands
As always great review! I bought this wonderful lens and use it on my a7s 1 & 2 for Astrophotography, ... I don't notice softness or chromatic aberration at all?...even wide open, where it's super sharp and full of contrast ..it might be you've had a bad copy? I mean, I even use it 'wide open' for Milky Way panoramic stitching. ..something I'm very picky about.😄 Anyways just watched your XP 85mm f1.2 and am looking to expand my lens set with that excellent beauty ..!😁
hi Raymond ,could you tell me more about coma and CA when using wide open until F2,8?I have got a copy (with red ring ) and that was horrible...I own 85,50 and 14XP,they are all good for astro (coma and CA very very weak)...What's wrong with my 35 XP copy!
@@exocett8163 Hi Arnaud, my lens is almost perfect as to not much coma and CA. To say it this way, ..I even use it wide open at f1.2 for Milky Way panorama's.. that's how great my copy is! Here is a temporary link to the first panorama I made with it (link will be gone in 3 days) www.flickr.com/gp/raymond_k_photography/49991D The question is, how bad is you're copy? (is it de-centered, or Tilted??) ...you call it horrible, so it doesn't sound good... The XP/SP premium line is Samyangs highest quality lens-line, so If it's as bad as you say it is, then It's definitely a bad/defective copy I would doubt it would get through quality control that way... (if it did it's not okay..) Maybe it got handled badly during transit? In either way, if it performing really horrible, I would if you by any chance are able to do so, ..return it for a replacement. I advice you to do that, or if out of the returning time, still go to the retailer with the lens and show him how badly it performs, and tell them that for the price of that lens, and the 'promised quality, it is unacceptable ...
@@RaymondKPhotoVideography hi Raymond,thank you for the panorama picture.But i found that we can see some CA and coma...Do you have please another picture at F1,2 with less than 10s exposure time (trailling)?
@@exocett8163 Hi, Arnoud ..there is some coma and CA, but for a 35mm Full-Frame f1.2 wide open, the amount of coma and CA is remarkably low. At 10sec (35mm at Full-Frame) there isn't any star-trailing, so any shorter will show you the same results as to pin-point stars. The only thing is that Coma might be a bit less apparent with a shorter the exposure.. But yesterday night I visited my country's Darksky park again, (testing out my a7s3) I took also some shots on the a7s3 with the Samyang Here is one wide open @ f1.2 (adapter registers it f1.3) - 6sec - iso6400 .. www.flickr.com/gp/raymond_k_photography/316130 Pretty much the same results as the panorama shot.. Hope it helps to determine how bad/good your lens is.
@@RaymondKPhotoVideography .Hi Raymond,yes,10s is short enought,depending where in the sky...the stars are quicker to the east or west...The vignetting with my copy was not centered...I think my copy is decentered...Whooo!A7S3!!Great!What is the highest isos usable for photography?
Chris did you know that there's an adapter for Canon EF glass to Nikon Z mount? :D just in case you want to squeeze that few more megapixels out of a test camera :)
Hello Christopher, thanks for your very good reviews, very concise and informative. I'd be interested to see your review of the new Canon RF superzoom lens 24-240mm when you can get around to it.
Hi Chris, many thanks for this review! Some time ago I purchased the 1.4 version (non-AF, Canon EF mount, manual aperture). Is there a great difference between the two? Best wishes, Ralf
i still hope they update this series of lenses -.- fully manual and with gears for follow focus ... it is sad to see thises lenses die out with dslr, relying on active aperture control just makes it harder to adapt or even impossible
Wish you had tested this on your EOS R just to see how you like the Focus Assist. Should be a game changer with MF but it requires electronic communication.
Hi Christopher, Thanks as always for the great and detailed review! :) Since you like the 35mm focal range so much (and I'm looking to buy one as my next lense), could you do a big 35mm comparison video? Best, Lukas
like you i´ve always been a fan of samyang lenses. and one thing i´ll never understand is how they can design and manufacture such beautiful optics only to absoltely fall flat when it comes to lens caps. in most cases no lens cap would be beter than samyang lens caps since you wouldn´t have the false sens of security
Very informative！do you know why it performs significant worse when adapted to a APS-C body？is that common for all adapted lenses or just for this model？
i am so stuck between samyang 35/1.4 or even yongnuo 35/1.4 or save for sigma art 35/1.4 or even canon 35/1.4 L mk1 (hear good things about it's character) or tamron 35/1.4. and now this one for f1.2 and just a little more saving. i know 35mm is my favorite focal length and i really love good '3d rendering' so i really want to choose the right one! character matters most to me as it would be used on my 5dc and t3i for now.
Great review 👌 Love samyangs older 24 mm f1.4 , i do alot of astrophotography. Don't cinsider buying it but its surrely tempting with that slighter bigger aperture . Grtzz john
does it have a meaning a manual focus lens in 2020? I mean f 1.2 is for lots of light and high speed, but if you have to manual focus.... I have a Samyang 16mm manual focus, but which has a sense for landscapes, but this one, even with a very good quality, I do not see where it fits in professional's bag.
Thank you for this amazing review. I've been hearing rumors about this lens for a while and the red ring around it gave me the impression that Samyang made it for the Canon RF mount. Did you hear anything on those lines? Us mere mortals might just dream about owning one in that case😀
Hi Christopher, I was wondering if you'd be able to tell me whether the lens hood of one of the old XP lenses (silver ring, yellow markings, soft focus ring) fits onto the newer style XP lenses (red ring, red markings, ribbed focus ring)?
Christopher Frost Photography I tested it, it worked. However, I had to return the lens. The aperture mechanism was very erratic with the A7III + MC11, and only partially worked on my Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K. The EF lens mount also had some major play/looseness in it on both cameras.
Eh...I'll stick with a 24-70 f2.8 for shooting around 35mm focal length on full frame. It probably isn't worth carrying around so much extra weight for that not so common instance of shooting wide with super shallow DOF. I see this being a specialized lens for specific situations.
Manual Focus Lenses arent just my thing, yes i do manual focus on night photography sometimes (mostly astro, not good at it but still) but... i cant focus trough the ovf... i have to shoot trough my glasses as the diptrie setting on the cam dont go as far as i need it to and this its very tricky to hit with the focus.. hence i have to use the live view mode which makes handholding a bit wonky and... hence man focus would only be something usable for me when i can use a tripod, which i rarely have with me :-/
Been looking for beast like this, but after doing some research I came to the conclusion that 35mm 1.2f is just not working design. Went through the all 35mm 1.2f available on the market and they all have the same common issue - huge vignette. So huge that the difference between 2f and 1.2f is barely visible. Some of the lenses even perform the same bokeh wise - 1.2f or 2f the difference is hardly visible. Due to to 35mm focal length the wide open 1.2f or wide open 2f looks very similar with round bokeh balls, but 1.2f incorporates cats eye effect, some times it adds that extra, sometimes it doesnt sometimes the 1.2f lens stopped down to 1.4f give better bokeh (sigma art for example). The vignette and usually coma is really the issue here, because with 35mm lens, the area effected by the light drop of is nearly 2/3 of the image, and the vignette amounts to ~3ev most of the time. Which means that the lens correction is boosting the exposure through the 2/3 of the image area to a staggering +3ev numbers to even it out. That introduce banding especially in low light scenarios, where you already using high ISO values. You upload images to Lightroom, which is automatically corrected adding +3 ev across nearly the whole image, then you increase the EV or boost shadows and what you see is greatly overedited image with all the noise exaggerated... Another issue is light exposure difference between center of the image and the borders that are effected by vignette while using wide open at 1.2f. Lets say you are using a lens wide open, at 1/400 you take the image and what you see is that the center is overexposed while the borders are underexposed. Its really hard to even it out so that the center of the image stay correct and the borders still have visible area. This is especially hard in low light although the lenses were designed for low light conditions... You struggle choosing correct exposure times to retain the most detail through the whole image area. Because if you choose bad exposure you might not have the options to postprocess it correctly later. Often you go the black and white way to reduce the details in the shadows simply because there is no way to extract those properly... The same thing could be told about other super fast lenses that have high vignette, usually 50mm lenses from back in the day, since those were used with black and white film, having huge vignette wasnt an issue since in black and white shooting at night the harsh contrast and dark shadows were used as advantage to create the striking look, with shallow DOF and correct light it was really an advantage over the other lenses that had less background melting capabilities. But now when we strive for color and the sensors are very sensitive to the light we gather too much information in the less visible areas, colorful images taken in the low light scenarios are really hard to edit. This is where high vignette is very unpleasant effect. So for all of those who think that 35mm 1.2f might give them advantage in low light scenarios, I urge you to think things through again, because chances are you wont feel that 1.2f advantage and in fact you will be facing disadvantages of the harsh vignette effect that these lenses introduce. So in the end the best low light performer might not be the fastest lens in your bag.
Greetings from India. I am watching all your reviews. I request you to review Sony 16-35 f2.8GM and 24-70 f2.8 (compare to Sigma 24-70 dg dn) which helps me to take decession on purchase of these lenses.
Because I own a RUclips channel called Christopher Frost Photography where I review camera lenses (!) same reason as I review just about any other camera lens, really...
@@christopherfrost Thank you for replying Chris! Do you think you will have a review out on the new Sony 20 mm f/1.8 soon? I would love to see how it fares in your tests. Keep on doing the lords work!
Hmm, I was not impressed. It would have been an amazing lens in, maybe 2015. Nowadays, I wouldn't buy it. I see no reason not to take the Tamron 35/1.4 over this, for example.
Agreed. I chose the Tamron 35 1.8 VC last year and I am so happy with it. Sharp, fairly compact and stabilized. Perfect for handheld street photography in poor light conditions. The 1.4 has to be fantastic.
As of now, There's only one seller on Ebay selling it and the price is much higher then Tamron SP 1.4 (sharpest AF 35 ever) and it's the same price or even higher then Sigma Art 1.2. I'm not sure what they are up to but in over saturated quality AF 35mm lens world, there's no way this is a fair price. On;y specific collectors would be interest in this.
The chormatic aberrations of this lens are a bloody disaster, ther is no other way to say it. It doesn´t look that the f1.2 can be really useful, apart from benefit from lower ISO in dark conditions.
There’s a reason cheap third party lenses are cheap where it never fails to surprise me why anyone who takes their craft seriously would waste their time buying cheap third party lenses. At least not those charging clients for their professional services.
lol i just read your comment from a month ago yesterday when someone ask you to review this lens and you said it's hard to find and here we are. cheers.
"All things born through him" Kudos for the learning, tough language to master! Great Review!
Hi Chris, the highly anticipated lens just came out! Tamron 70-180 f/2.8 ! I hope we will get to see that lens soon on your channel too!
More that it got an official announcement and press launch. It doesn't ship until May, provided nothing delays it.
Azenturi my copy is supposed to arrive at the end of this month here in Oz
@@reg171reg Australia is lucky then. The date I heard was May 14th.
Happy Easter Christopher! God bless!
Very honest review. And again I like it. I own 35fe auto for Sony and so far there is no competition in price vs quality.
Anyway luv your reviews abaut lenses and camera's. Thanks for your job 📸
I was expecting a better image qualtity wide open from this lens.
Chris, I picked up this lens off Amazon. Samyang 35mm 1.2 My copy is fabulous. It's heavy but beautiful. Its body and focus ring is EXACTLY like the 50mm and 85mm. All 3 lenses are identical except for the focal length. My lens doesn't have the red ring or text. Thank you for your review!! Love it! Blessings!! oh, big difference between between 1.2 & 1.4 in regards to darkened corners. I used it on my Canon 5D3. Wonderful wonderful lens. Image quality is super sharp even at 1.2. Blessings my friend.
hi James,I have the 14,50 and 85 XP lens...I'm really happy,they are fabulous!I have order the 35 XP on Amazon,this one have red ring and text (my 3 other XP do not) and i have return it to Amazon...My copy was catastrophic!!A lot of coma and chromatic aberation...This lens was completly different as my 3 other XP lens....Bad copy??
@@exocett8163 Really?? Must be a bad copy. I'm so very sorry! Mine looks exactly like the 50mm and 85mm. Rubber focus (non-ribbed) grip, grey text, etc. can't tell the difference between the 3. Return it can get the grey text one. I see Amazon has it for $200 less than the red ringed one. I'm really shocked. I'm surprised its a bad copy. Btw, how is the 14mm? I'm looking in to that one.
@@jamesmonahan9408 Ok,I'm an astrophotographer,the 14 XP is very very good!The best 14mm for stars shooting ( no coma),better than 14 art lens on this point.If you prefer aurora ,go for the 14 1.8 art.I'm really sad for my 35xp copy,i expected something like the 3 other...I will order another (grey ring and text) 35 XP sample...
@@exocett8163 oh very cool. I could use it for weddings/events OR astro photog. I like the 14mm fish eye for events or groups. Thank you! Yes return the red ring lens and get the grey lettered one. Its crazy great.
I have the 85. The lens cap infuriates me. Great video as always 🍻
I have it too and haven't even noticed, but yes, it's kinda flimsy. But infuriating?
Great review,bougt this lens and is so much fun,manual focus.I use Focus peaking,otherwise to difficult..The quality of this glass is amazing..
After all your praise for the XP 85mm, I think I expected better. Oh well, it's not like this lens sucks. Great review as always!
Thank you so much Chris. Hope to see the new sharpest lenses list as well.
I think their XP 85mm was such perfection that It will be hard to ever beat. That thing was sharp to the corners at f1.2. How is the ghosting in lower contrast scenarios ?
The IQ of the 85 Is really impressive, but I wouldn't buy any MF lens longer then 50 mm, focusing at 85/1.2 is extremely challenging (at least for me)
Chris, thank you for your review. Personally I find it difficult to manually focus such a lens, unless I had some kind of a visual aid in the viewfinder.
I wonder if the contrast and color fringing issues you're seeing is just the nature of the beast when it comes to having apertures that side open. I think to have zero lost contrast or distortion would require absolutely pristine glass, especially when you're talking about the pixel densities on your two cameras, which would raise the cost substantially over it's 800 USD price point.
I got this lens also and its so beautiful with my Canon R6
"...stop down to f1.4..."
now you don't hear that alot.
Chris have you considered looking at focal reducers or specialty adapters? As a lover of multiple systems and multiple sensor sizes, they've been invaluable to me.
Great review, love this lens build quality but not so much on the price.
Cant wait to see the review of the new tamron 70-180mm though
For full frame e-mount or L mount cameras the full frame Sigma 35mm f/1.2 is a better choice. It has a similar size and weight, it is designed for mirrorless cameras but is much more expensive.
35mm being your favorite focal length, if one day you find the initerest in the m43, I recommend you to check the Olympus Zuiko 17mm f/1.2.
Best regards from the Netherlands
I don't test M4/3 lenses, sorry
How does it stack up against the Sigma 35mm f/1.2 DG DN?
Sigma almost certainly performs better in every category, although this lens has more character imo
As always great review!
I bought this wonderful lens and use it on my a7s 1 & 2 for Astrophotography, ... I don't notice softness or chromatic aberration at all?...even wide open, where it's super sharp and full of contrast
..it might be you've had a bad copy?
I mean, I even use it 'wide open' for Milky Way panoramic stitching. ..something I'm very picky about.😄
Anyways just watched your XP 85mm f1.2 and am looking to expand my lens set with that excellent beauty ..!😁
hi Raymond ,could you tell me more about coma and CA when using wide open until F2,8?I have got a copy (with red ring ) and that was horrible...I own 85,50 and 14XP,they are all good for astro (coma and CA very very weak)...What's wrong with my 35 XP copy!
@@exocett8163 Hi Arnaud, my lens is almost perfect as to not much coma and CA.
To say it this way, ..I even use it wide open at f1.2 for Milky Way panorama's.. that's how great my copy is!
Here is a temporary link to the first panorama I made with it (link will be gone in 3 days)
www.flickr.com/gp/raymond_k_photography/49991D
The question is, how bad is you're copy? (is it de-centered, or Tilted??)
...you call it horrible, so it doesn't sound good...
The XP/SP premium line is Samyangs highest quality lens-line, so If it's as bad as you say it is, then It's definitely a bad/defective copy
I would doubt it would get through quality control that way... (if it did it's not okay..)
Maybe it got handled badly during transit?
In either way, if it performing really horrible, I would if you by any chance are able to do so, ..return it for a replacement.
I advice you to do that, or if out of the returning time, still go to the retailer with the lens and show him how badly it performs, and tell them that for the price of that lens, and the 'promised quality, it is unacceptable ...
@@RaymondKPhotoVideography hi Raymond,thank you for the panorama picture.But i found that we can see some CA and coma...Do you have please another picture at F1,2 with less than 10s exposure time (trailling)?
@@exocett8163 Hi, Arnoud ..there is some coma and CA, but for a 35mm Full-Frame f1.2 wide open, the amount of coma and CA is remarkably low.
At 10sec (35mm at Full-Frame) there isn't any star-trailing, so any shorter will show you the same results as to pin-point stars.
The only thing is that Coma might be a bit less apparent with a shorter the exposure..
But yesterday night I visited my country's Darksky park again, (testing out my a7s3)
I took also some shots on the a7s3 with the Samyang
Here is one wide open @ f1.2 (adapter registers it f1.3) - 6sec - iso6400 ..
www.flickr.com/gp/raymond_k_photography/316130
Pretty much the same results as the panorama shot..
Hope it helps to determine how bad/good your lens is.
@@RaymondKPhotoVideography .Hi Raymond,yes,10s is short enought,depending where in the sky...the stars are quicker to the east or west...The vignetting with my copy was not centered...I think my copy is decentered...Whooo!A7S3!!Great!What is the highest isos usable for photography?
Chris did you know that there's an adapter for Canon EF glass to Nikon Z mount? :D just in case you want to squeeze that few more megapixels out of a test camera :)
Well...and you can invest in a 7RiV if you need a lot more MP out of YOUR camera...:)
That lenticular halo almost looks good. The right sunlight just might make it useful. But aside from that, _wow._
Hello Christopher, thanks for your very good reviews, very concise and informative. I'd be interested to see your review of the new Canon RF superzoom lens 24-240mm when you can get around to it.
Wow, I had expected better based on your previous reviews of their lenses.
great review as always, one thing, there is no 'r' in gasket, its gas-kit not gars kit, :)
Hi Chris, many thanks for this review! Some time ago I purchased the 1.4 version (non-AF, Canon EF mount, manual aperture). Is there a great difference between the two? Best wishes, Ralf
Great review as always!
i still hope they update this series of lenses -.- fully manual and with gears for follow focus ... it is sad to see thises lenses die out with dslr, relying on active aperture control just makes it harder to adapt or even impossible
Wish you had tested this on your EOS R just to see how you like the Focus Assist. Should be a game changer with MF but it requires electronic communication.
Oh man, John 1:1 in koine, I’d recognise that anywhere! Great review, not so sure about the lens though.
Is it really worth paying the premium for this f1.2 lens or will f1.8 lenses be a better bet for the vast majority of users?
Hi Christopher,
Thanks as always for the great and detailed review! :)
Since you like the 35mm focal range so much (and I'm looking to buy one as my next lense), could you do a big 35mm comparison video?
Best,
Lukas
like you i´ve always been a fan of samyang lenses. and one thing i´ll never understand is how they can design and manufacture such beautiful optics only to absoltely fall flat when it comes to lens caps. in most cases no lens cap would be beter than samyang lens caps since you wouldn´t have the false sens of security
Very informative！do you know why it performs significant worse when adapted to a APS-C body？is that common for all adapted lenses or just for this model？
About perfect by f2 and good at f1.2 is fine, but a bit too much purple at the wide open aperture it looks like.
i am so stuck between samyang 35/1.4 or even yongnuo 35/1.4 or save for sigma art 35/1.4 or even canon 35/1.4 L mk1 (hear good things about it's character) or tamron 35/1.4. and now this one for f1.2 and just a little more saving.
i know 35mm is my favorite focal length and i really love good '3d rendering' so i really want to choose the right one! character matters most to me as it would be used on my 5dc and t3i for now.
Hey Chris, i was just wondering what you use for your sharpness test. Is it a poster that can be purchased or is it something that you made?
please review the new Meyer-Optic Trioplan 100mm F/2.8 ll.
YESSSS I HAVE WANTED YOU TO REVIEW THIS LENS FOR SO LOOOONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great review 👌
Love samyangs older 24 mm f1.4
, i do alot of astrophotography.
Don't cinsider buying it but its surrely tempting with that slighter bigger aperture .
Grtzz john
What do you think of this lens compare to sigma 35mm f1.4 art?
does it have a meaning a manual focus lens in 2020? I mean f 1.2 is for lots of light and high speed, but if you have to manual focus....
I have a Samyang 16mm manual focus, but which has a sense for landscapes, but this one, even with a very good quality, I do not see where it fits in professional's bag.
Thank you for this amazing review. I've been hearing rumors about this lens for a while and the red ring around it gave me the impression that Samyang made it for the Canon RF mount. Did you hear anything on those lines?
Us mere mortals might just dream about owning one in that case😀
Samyang has pulled off RF lenses from their lineup. Internet rumours are pointing to Canon's cramping down on third party lenses for their RF mount.
Didn't you try it in the Canon RF?
Hi Christopher, I was wondering if you'd be able to tell me whether the lens hood of one of the old XP lenses (silver ring, yellow markings, soft focus ring) fits onto the newer style XP lenses (red ring, red markings, ribbed focus ring)?
Should do, I guess
Christopher Frost Photography I tested it, it worked. However, I had to return the lens. The aperture mechanism was very erratic with the A7III + MC11, and only partially worked on my Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K. The EF lens mount also had some major play/looseness in it on both cameras.
I would appreciate if you can review Zeiss Milvus 50 mm.
Which adapter are you using for sony? Thank you.
Seems Sigma 35mm f1.2 designed for Sony mirrorless does better. Maybe not in a corners, but still better contrast, same resolution, less flares.
Eh...I'll stick with a 24-70 f2.8 for shooting around 35mm focal length on full frame. It probably isn't worth carrying around so much extra weight for that not so common instance of shooting wide with super shallow DOF. I see this being a specialized lens for specific situations.
It or Tamron 35 1.4?
how about color and vignette?
this lens still manual focus?
Lens Manual or automatic
What’s the difference between the SP line and the XP line? I hope you’re holding up well there Chris!
I think they're the same - the SP is for the Rokinon branded lenses in America, I think
Nice to lens samyang 35mm f 1.2
How would this fare as a webcam lens?
I'd probably spend the extra cash and go with the Sigma 35mm f1.2
Hi Chris, just wonder is Samyang XP lens able to attach on Fuji camera system using Viltrox speed booster adaptor EF-FX, thanks
It can and I use that setup all the time
It looks like 35mm F1.2 ED AS UMC CS performs noticeably better.
I 💙💙💙💙 35mm
anyone else notice this lens profiles the Canon 35mm RF 1.8 macro as default in Lightroom. I'm using a 5D3 and Samyang 35mm 1.2 XP. hmmmm.
Eh .. looks like you`re better off with the Sigma 35/1.4 Art lens than this, which is cheaper too but has a bit less issues wide-open, plus has AF.
Manual Focus Lenses arent just my thing, yes i do manual focus on night photography sometimes (mostly astro, not good at it but still) but... i cant focus trough the ovf... i have to shoot trough my glasses as the diptrie setting on the cam dont go as far as i need it to and this its very tricky to hit with the focus.. hence i have to use the live view mode which makes handholding a bit wonky and... hence man focus would only be something usable for me when i can use a tripod, which i rarely have with me :-/
Been looking for beast like this, but after doing some research I came to the conclusion that 35mm 1.2f is just not working design. Went through the all 35mm 1.2f available on the market and they all have the same common issue - huge vignette.
So huge that the difference between 2f and 1.2f is barely visible. Some of the lenses even perform the same bokeh wise - 1.2f or 2f the difference is hardly visible. Due to to 35mm focal length the wide open 1.2f or wide open 2f looks very similar with round bokeh balls, but 1.2f incorporates cats eye effect, some times it adds that extra, sometimes it doesnt sometimes the 1.2f lens stopped down to 1.4f give better bokeh (sigma art for example).
The vignette and usually coma is really the issue here, because with 35mm lens, the area effected by the light drop of is nearly 2/3 of the image, and the vignette amounts to ~3ev most of the time. Which means that the lens correction is boosting the exposure through the 2/3 of the image area to a staggering +3ev numbers to even it out. That introduce banding especially in low light scenarios, where you already using high ISO values. You upload images to Lightroom, which is automatically corrected adding +3 ev across nearly the whole image, then you increase the EV or boost shadows and what you see is greatly overedited image with all the noise exaggerated...
Another issue is light exposure difference between center of the image and the borders that are effected by vignette while using wide open at 1.2f. Lets say you are using a lens wide open, at 1/400 you take the image and what you see is that the center is overexposed while the borders are underexposed. Its really hard to even it out so that the center of the image stay correct and the borders still have visible area. This is especially hard in low light although the lenses were designed for low light conditions... You struggle choosing correct exposure times to retain the most detail through the whole image area. Because if you choose bad exposure you might not have the options to postprocess it correctly later. Often you go the black and white way to reduce the details in the shadows simply because there is no way to extract those properly... The same thing could be told about other super fast lenses that have high vignette, usually 50mm lenses from back in the day, since those were used with black and white film, having huge vignette wasnt an issue since in black and white shooting at night the harsh contrast and dark shadows were used as advantage to create the striking look, with shallow DOF and correct light it was really an advantage over the other lenses that had less background melting capabilities. But now when we strive for color and the sensors are very sensitive to the light we gather too much information in the less visible areas, colorful images taken in the low light scenarios are really hard to edit. This is where high vignette is very unpleasant effect.
So for all of those who think that 35mm 1.2f might give them advantage in low light scenarios, I urge you to think things through again, because chances are you wont feel that 1.2f advantage and in fact you will be facing disadvantages of the harsh vignette effect that these lenses introduce. So in the end the best low light performer might not be the fastest lens in your bag.
Thanks a lot~
Is there one for FE mount?
Greetings from India. I am watching all your reviews. I request you to review Sony 16-35 f2.8GM and 24-70 f2.8 (compare to Sigma 24-70 dg dn) which helps me to take decession on purchase of these lenses.
tamron 70-180 review
Why did you review this lens chris?
Because I own a RUclips channel called Christopher Frost Photography where I review camera lenses (!) same reason as I review just about any other camera lens, really...
@@christopherfrost Thank you for replying Chris! Do you think you will have a review out on the new Sony 20 mm f/1.8 soon? I would love to see how it fares in your tests. Keep on doing the lords work!
@@hampuslindman8248 Hopefully sometime soon, when the lens hire company has one for me
@@christopherfrost plz review Tokina opera 50mm 1.4, one of the best lens
That weird filter thread size of 86mm is going to "fun" to work with :/
Waving from The Bahamas :)
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This does not have the quality of the 50 and 85 xp. Thanks for the review Chris.
Tokina opera 50mm 1.4, plzzzzzzzz review it
Ι wasn't expecting you reading Greek...!
The optical performance feels like something from the 90s.
"shutter speed,f1.2"
Me: wait what?
Hmm, also is it just me or do all the sample images from this lens look a bit boring? Doesn't seem to have much character.
i found this lens is pointless，due to ca and contrast，it start usable at f2 ，why i dont just get canon 35 2is，lighter sharper cheaper AF and with IS
Unless you dont need the 1.2 for low light it really makes no sense
Hmm, I was not impressed. It would have been an amazing lens in, maybe 2015. Nowadays, I wouldn't buy it. I see no reason not to take the Tamron 35/1.4 over this, for example.
Agreed. I chose the Tamron 35 1.8 VC last year and I am so happy with it. Sharp, fairly compact and stabilized. Perfect for handheld street photography in poor light conditions. The 1.4 has to be fantastic.
Nice lens. But there are nicer ones with the price range.
mine looks a little different
I would not buy this lens, it's a purple mess. Nice review as usual Chris 😁
86mm filter ? I will pass
i'd never pay 900 quid for that.
As of now, There's only one seller on Ebay selling it and the price is much higher then Tamron SP 1.4 (sharpest AF 35 ever) and it's the same price or even higher then Sigma Art 1.2. I'm not sure what they are up to but in over saturated quality AF 35mm lens world, there's no way this is a fair price. On;y specific collectors would be interest in this.
Wow, 900 pants for this lense... need to stock up on pants then
Is that just have MF lens ?
The chromatic aberrations are just excrutiatingly bad
When I firstly read title I thought it is SAMSUNG
Encor tres cher
良さそうだね、godoxとサムヤンは底辺の味方
The chormatic aberrations of this lens are a bloody disaster, ther is no other way to say it. It doesn´t look that the f1.2 can be really useful, apart from benefit from lower ISO in dark conditions.
Overpriced lens.
There’s a reason cheap third party lenses are cheap where it never fails to surprise me why anyone who takes their craft seriously would waste their time buying cheap third party lenses. At least not those charging clients for their professional services.
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