Not sure, I would say Mickey is the strongest toon in history, but I would give that to Bugs Bunny because Looney Tunes are generally more violent and crazy.
I think this battle between Mickey and SpongeBob might have to do with characters usually depicted in a mild-mannered manchild kind of way, and was flanderized beyond it's original intention to the point of non-recognition; and I'm assuming that comparison because of how Mickey's depiction in "The Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse" is very unappealing to me.
Spongebob might be able to survive erasure. But Mickey's brush is not erasure. It operates on a level beyond the writers, and typical boundaries of fiction. Because it can off characters like Buggs Bunny, who has survived, replaced, or outright stalemated the authors/animators, on numerous occasions. Meaning Mickey can effectively melt author level characters, as well as negate their hax.
@TUCKALMIGHTY It came from the string, which Patrick erased him with near the end of the episode; it even affected the real world above, plus, since you say the page embedded into Spongebob's head comes from real life, can't he just make himself immune to that?
I would say it's a stalemate, even if SpongeBob was erased or whatever, he can still be remembered by all those who had watched him which is the source of his true immortality stated by Frenchy the narrator.
And one more thing, no one is beyond the authors, it's all scripted; no matter how we perceive the powers of our beloved characters, they are still under non fiction, they don't exist, so no one is beyond the author, Disney owns Mickey and Nickelodeon owns SpongeBob.
i wonder if uncle grandpa can beat mickey since even if mickey used that cool brush another uncle grandpa would come out of nowhere and say "boy i'm glad that isn't me"
@@christinarawlings948 dude he literally breathe the moment he was out of the shop meaning his adaption is so quick and fast that you didnt even notice cope harder and even in the new movie of sandy cheeks journey to stop her former company spongebob literally breath without water multiple times the facts are there spongebob beats mickey done the debate is over plus spongebob can survive the pot paint erasure something
@@footballboy1085 I never said Spongebob couldn't beat Mickey, it's just been pretty inconsistent in the show and in the movies, like multiple times he wasn't able to breath underwater, and other times where he can.
Well i disagree on the paintbrush because spongebob survived getting erased and he also regenerate his body he also gained the ability to breath out of water and he is insanely fast
spongebob can teleport what even the cameraman couldnt saw him and sponge killed cameraman driving his boat. And even with that Spongebob could rewrite his story in the second moive and in comics so Mickey is just too slow for spongebob
We are going off the logic that is applied in who framed Roger rabbit, no matter how much someone or something tries to erase a room they never fully can unless it’s paint thinner
I don’t get why you claim spongebob's durability is inconsistent. He is quite literally never shown taking any serious damage and any "damage" he recieves is almost instantly reverted. It's toon force's most consistent gift: immunity to getting hurt. And no, spongebob didn’t die in the Spongebob Squarepants movie, he dried. As soon as he got some water on him, he was fine.
I probably should've been a bit more specific with my explanations here. Since what I meant, was basically that Spongebob's level of immunity is portrayed inconsistently. Because he doesn't have any super meta- in universe explanations for it? Like we got in WFRR for Mickey. For example? Spongebob is unaffected by Flats punches completely in the episode "The Bully" implying some sort of immunity. But in the episode "Home Sweet Pineapple" Patrick smashes Spongebob into small tiny cubes with his physical attacks- implying he can take damage. Yes, Toon Force can heal or fix Spongebob's wounds without any explanation? But it can just as easily prevent him from healing or tanking damage- like we see very often in the later seasons. Unlike Mickey, who is stated and shown to just be straight up immune to damage from everything. Also? Spongebob did in fact die (or was about to) because we literally see the sailors in the film, start to cry after seeing Spongebob's demise-- before he manages to become rehydrated. This is also backed up in the nicktoons crossover games, earliest episodes of the show, and the second movie-- as being a consistent way to off the Sponge. Just my thoughts though, hope that explained my opinions on it.
"SpongeBob's world outshined Mickey Mouse in karate because SpongeBob's unique blend of underwater agility and irrepressible enthusiasm gave him the edge. Mickey Mouse might have charm and magic, but SpongeBob's karate moves, fueled by his oceanic training and sponge flexibility, made him a formidable opponent. Plus, his never-give-up attitude and quirky techniques proved to be a winning combination!"
I'm still curious about Mario vs Mickey now, especially watching this video. I know you said you would cover this after Mario gets a new game, but after the two gotten remakes of older titles, I wonder if this match up composite wise is much closer then the match-up here, considering the wild stuff Paper Mario, Super Mario Rpg, and even some Mario and Luigi titles holds.
Good analysis. I have one quibble though. Toon force isn't "quite literally the strongest power in fiction." The potency of a superpower usually depends on the character using it and/or how strong it's written to be in the fiction in question. It's easy to imagine an outstanding maximum potential of toon force, but the same can be told for abilities it takes after, such as reality warping and plot manipulation. In different examples, any of those abilities can easily be written as more powerful than the others.
i hope this guy knows that in basically every show the authors protect the characters unless they js want them to die so i dont think that should play a factor in a 1v1 wit there abilities that were given to them to make them who they are ( so what im saying is him saying spongebob is saved by the writers and stuff and he toon force is kinda stupid bc that is with most characters in cartoons so it shouldnt be like a factor in 1v1 with there abilities are given to them also you could argue that mickey mouse also has toon force but that does not matter cause he has the abilities so still count it if its there abilities that they have)
The reason I factored the Authors into this fight is because Toon Force allows a character to surpass their author. Mickey has directly influenced the animation cells, SpongeBob has directly erased things from the frame, and characters like Buggs Bunny can even straight up replace the Author. So trying to ignore that aspect of their powerset, would dramatically alter the fight (and basically make it a different topic) Hope that answers your question!
If I'm understanding the concept of "Toon Force" correctly, it essentially means that whoever cartoon character is wielding it gains both infinite power and infinite pain, completely dependent on whether or not the writers think it's funny. Spongebob and Mickey both have Toon Force, so in the concept of an all-out battle between the two, it will ultimately come down to whatever the funniest outcome will be. In this video, the final verdict is that Mickey will win because his magical paintbrush beats Spongebob's magical pencil, more or less because the brush's Thinner outranges the pencil's erasure. There is also a lot of explanation behind Mickey's history and training throughout Kingdom Hearts to show his strength against Spongebob, who relies almost completely on Toon Force since nothing is considered 100% canon in any Spongebob lore. However. If Toon Force is at play, since this battle is fiction, no matter how you spin it, the winner will never be Mickey. Mickey's long journey and immense explanation for his victory will be his downfall because Toon Force relies on what the funniest outcome will be, which can be one of two things: One outcome is the person with less (or zero) training/experience/knowledge, or overall the bigger disadvantage due to laziness/clumsiness, wins. The other outcome is a third party with significantly less practice/preparation completely destroys both participants and wins. In neither of those two possibilities does Mickey come out on top. To address the "cartoons beat the writers because of Toon Force" argument, the idea that Mickey, Spongebob, Bugs Bunny, or anyone that wields Toon Force can beat the writers of the battle is simply impossible, because at the end of the day, the writers wrote that the characters can use it in the first place, and they write HOW the characters will use it as well. Absolutely nothing can beat the writers in the end, no matter how much disbelief you try to suspend, because otherwise any battle with Toon Force at play would be completely incomprehensible for the human mind, and we would never know who would actually win without witnessing the fight ourselves, something that can't happen because it's fictional. Unless I completely misread what Toon Force means or forgot any specific details about either character, this seems like a win for Spongebob.
Awesome video and series, by the way; it's really cool to see someone trying to tackle such difficult battle matchups with considering every possible outcome and world-rule-difference, while still maintaining little to no bias for either character. Loved the Gojo-Sans video as well. 👍
@@JooshReact Toonforce isn’t a meaning. They just cartoons that could survive anything that’s impossible to survive and do anything with in their imagination
This is a W video. I personally think Sponge boy me Bob wins but it honestly depends on what you believe the context for the character's higher scaling lies and I understand why you say the goat Michael wins.
Mickey being "the strongest Toon in history" is completely wrong because Bugs Bunny exists. SpongeBob and Mickey could tagteam fight him, and they'd still lose. With that being said, I do think Mickey can take out SpongeBob - but the same could be said for SpongeBob to Mickey - its a pretty close fight (though slightly in Mickey's favor.)
Bugs Bunny can die from thinner tho, what was stated it Roger rabbit applies to any toon including bugs, but that doesn’t apply to Mickey when we see him little be able to fuse and even held by a thinner made monster in Epic Mickey
@@diegopinnhammer4083he's not as strong as either. Pop-Eye is a toon with Universal power. Bugs, SpongeBob, and Mickey have Multiversal power. And Pop-Eye isn't immune to existence erasure. Which all of these 3 can do.
You said it like spinach didn't exist popeyes spinach is one advantage when the time god erase he just pulls a spunach even when erase so.@@elcato8126
@@starternoob3379SpongeBob for sho. SpongeBob beated Squidward from bathtub to krusty Krab by winking, Laughing. And More: Like Can Burn anything. Freeze anything by being Cool Bob. Can survive with no eyes for a second, Defeat Karate As not as a master. Survive Jellyfish. Can move planets by looking at it, Can go trough CPU and view Data. Can even Rotate the World by wrench. And Scared anyone. Can Exploded, Regen to Normal. SpongeBob can Survive anything: How? Multiplication, Immune to die, Survive crashed, Explosion, Shape shift, Being split, Survive Cannon ball, Has ability to swim fast, Can fly by his pants and statlua, Panels switching, Regen, Can be young, Survive Greese burning him, Invisible, and View Future, Turn to anything, , Can go to anywhere with cotton candy, Toon forced, flying, Snail form, Survived Being crush Less than a second, Aressed anything, Survive anything, Survived being Burned by the sun, Can Make the galaxy planets crash by looking at it, and Trip anyone, Burn the part of the world by his tounge speed, And lots more like Panel Switching, Scared anyone by abrasive side, Survived by falling, Cannot be aressed, Can beat anyone in a race as he beaten Squidward from to his bathroom then appeared at krusty Krabs , can Burn a place by falling asleep, bad breath to Kill someone, can make his reflection talk back and infinity more like: Dream Reality and Survived the salty Spittoon, Survive the Grill, can stand on the roof, Survive anything and never lost, Survived land, Defeated Sandy, Trick Sandy, Can Destroy ALL by himself, Can freeze time by saying lift and doesn't get hurt, Survived A Nuke, knows where you get lost somewhere, Vanished if you caught him, Can travel places with his imagination, Can eat Hard items, Can do anything, Can create a magic pencil from his sock or another part of the pencil , Can defeat the dirty bubble by a pencil and more like: Be cool then freezing a place, Can control jellyfish 🪼, Can scared you by himself laughing, can turn anything to life, Like chum, can make your ear bleed, and more abilities.
Very good scaling, I’m glad u didn’t downplay either of them, but i need to advice, u should be specific for which version of mickey mouse ur using, cuz most people would think ur talking about the recent one, or the clubhouse one, that’s why people would get confused and upset, the mickey u used here was epic mickey after all, right? And that’s a different version, you should always specify that
I think mickey wins my reasoning is Mickey have paintbrush thinner which can erase boundaries between Disney Disney have boundaries with marvel marvel high tiers like toaa are outer-boundless which upscales any feat spongebob have basically
@@lokimiguel2452 toon force,regeneration,speed run faster than the cameraman hello are we forgetting the camera guy is a meme character that shouldnt be possible he is the on recording the series how is he not able to track spongeob speed and spongeob unravled the universe so fast people think it is reality when it is not and he saved the nick multiverse yeah mickey saved the disney multiverse but spongebob rarely gets damaged and mickey gets damged for the right reasons he got damged by pete and donald and more and spongwbob would beat them with his pencil and even if mickey has the paintbrush spongebob pencil would erase it and the pencil has to is just get wet by the paint and brush it off with water simiple and bugs bunny still has some author limitations like he got affected by daffy and he had a problem with the author erasing his head while spongebo just literally laughed after patrick erased him with a string that can also erase anything as long as someone is pulling it make it make sense and saitama beats all of them and solo fiction his infinite strength cant cap to nothing he also one shots himself from before and doing that is better than gojo's aura in his verse.
Cap SpongeBob for sho will win.. SpongeBob beated Squidward from bathtub to krusty Krab by winking, Laughing. And More: Like Can Burn anything. Freeze anything by being Cool Bob. Can survive with no eyes for a second, Defeat Karate As not as a master. Survive Jellyfish. Can move planets by looking at it, Can go trough CPU and view Data. Can even Rotate the World by wrench. And Scared anyone. Can Exploded, Regen to Normal. SpongeBob can Survive anything: How? Multiplication, Immune to die, Survive crashed, Explosion, Shape shift, Being split, Survive Cannon ball, Has ability to swim fast, Can fly by his pants and statlua, Panels switching, Regen, Can be young, Survive Greese burning him, Invisible, and View Future, Turn to anything, , Can go to anywhere with cotton candy, Toon forced, flying, Snail form, Survived Being crush Less than a second, Aressed anything, Survive anything, Survived being Burned by the sun, Can Make the galaxy planets crash by looking at it, and Trip anyone, Burn the part of the world by his tounge speed, And lots more like Panel Switching, Scared anyone by abrasive side, Survived by falling, Cannot be aressed, Can beat anyone in a race as he beaten Squidward from to his bathroom then appeared at krusty Krabs , can Burn a place by falling asleep, bad breath to Kill someone, can make his reflection talk back and infinity more like: Dream Reality and Survived the salty Spittoon, Survive the Grill, can stand on the roof, Survive anything and never lost, Survived land, Defeated Sandy, Trick Sandy, Can Destroy ALL by himself, Can freeze time by saying lift and doesn't get hurt, Survived A Nuke, knows where you get lost somewhere, Vanished if you caught him, Can travel places with his imagination, Can eat Hard items, Can do anything, Can create a magic pencil from his sock or another part of the pencil , Can defeat the dirty bubble by a pencil and more like: Be cool then freezing a place, Can control jellyfish 🪼, Can scared you by himself laughing, can turn anything to life, Like chum, can make your ear bleed, and more abilities.
@JalenJennings-it4xd SpongeBob Survived Nuke, A Punch, Explosion, Failing, Bomb, And more and Land Mickey would not right near SpongeBob. SpongeBob can damage Mickey by bubble and Gary, More.
Tune force, it’s not a power it’s just a series of gags come up by the writer for the sake of humor and time because they cannot animate every specific thing character does, because that would be costly. We understand that is the reason why and except that these guys are nothing more than beer jokes obviously Pulling things out of mid air it’s just they don’t have time to animate so we just have to suspend our disbelief to except these things we except that these are jokes not meant to be taken seriously because the cartoons tune force is not a power we I don’t know where this is coming from why people cannot accept that or getting this From but it could not be further from the truth it’s just to make you laugh nothing more because these characters are not fighters, not serious fighters like you would see in other shows, so we give them these “powers, because it’s the only thing they have that we can compare them to win this versus series
It's a fucking cartoon cartoon character are always doing laughs and giggles crap especially if they have toon force and it's a plotless cartoon character that's why I include stuff for cartoon characters and spongebob and mickey I'm pretty sure has feats that they don't use toon force
@@BriskvrSpongeBob Wil repear though and makes Micky confused Then win Proof: SpongeBob for sho. SpongeBob beated Squidward from bathtub to krusty Krab by winking, Laughing. And More: Like Can Burn anything. Freeze anything by being Cool Bob. Can survive with no eyes for a second, Defeat Karate As not as a master. Survive Jellyfish. Can move planets by looking at it, Can go trough CPU and view Data. Can even Rotate the World by wrench. And Scared anyone. Can Exploded, Regen to Normal. SpongeBob can Survive anything: How? Multiplication, Immune to die, Survive crashed, Explosion, Shape shift, Being split, Survive Cannon ball, Has ability to swim fast, Can fly by his pants and statlua, Panels switching, Regen, Can be young, Survive Greese burning him, Invisible, and View Future, Turn to anything, , Can go to anywhere with cotton candy, Toon forced, flying, Snail form, Survived Being crush Less than a second, Aressed anything, Survive anything, Survived being Burned by the sun, Can Make the galaxy planets crash by looking at it, and Trip anyone, Burn the part of the world by his tounge speed, And lots more like Panel Switching, Scared anyone by abrasive side, Survived by falling, Cannot be aressed, Can beat anyone in a race as he beaten Squidward from to his bathroom then appeared at krusty Krabs , can Burn a place by falling asleep, bad breath to Kill someone, can make his reflection talk back and infinity more like: Dream Reality and Survived the salty Spittoon, Survive the Grill, can stand on the roof, Survive anything and never lost, Survived land, Defeated Sandy, Trick Sandy, Can Destroy ALL by himself, Can freeze time by saying lift and doesn't get hurt, Survived A Nuke, knows where you get lost somewhere, Vanished if you caught him, Can travel places with his imagination, Can eat Hard items, Can do anything, Can create a magic pencil from his sock or another part of the pencil , Can defeat the dirty bubble by a pencil and more like: Be cool then freezing a place, Can control jellyfish 🪼, Can scared you by himself laughing, can turn anything to life, Like chum, can make your ear bleed, and more abilities.
@@Guest-os4yd u realize mickey along with shaggy is the only official toon in history that survived thinner which is 100x stronger then dip making him the ony known toon to truly never die
@@Briskvr He destroyed the galaxy. He is God level like OOA in marvel. SpongeBob for sho is powerful. SpongeBob beated Squidward from bathtub to krusty Krab by winking, Laughing. And More: Like Can Burn anything. Freeze anything by being Cool Bob. Can survive with no eyes for a second, Defeat Karate As not as a master. Survive Jellyfish. Can move planets by looking at it in space (SpongeBob SquarePants movie #2: SpongeBob out of the water) And More going on: His episode show he can do. Can go trough CPU and view Data. Can even Rotate the World by wrench. And Scared anyone. Can Exploded, Regen to Normal. SpongeBob can Survive anything: How? Multiplication, Immune to die, Survive crashed, Explosion, Shape shift, Being split, Survive Cannon ball, Has ability to swim fast, Can fly by his pants and statlua, Panels switching, Regen, Can be young, Survive Greese burning him, Invisible, and View Future, Turn to anything, , Can go to anywhere with cotton candy, Toon forced, flying, Snail form, Survived Being crush Less than a second, Aressed anything, Survive anything, Survived being Burned by the sun, Can Make the galaxy planets crash by looking at it, and Trip anyone, Burn the part of the world by his tounge speed, And lots more like Panel Switching, Scared anyone by abrasive side, Survived by falling, Cannot be aressed, Can beat anyone in a race as he beaten Squidward from to his bathroom then appeared at krusty Krabs , can Burn a place by falling asleep, bad breath to Kill someone, can make his reflection talk back and infinity more like: Dream Reality and Survived the salty Spittoon, Survive the Grill, can stand on the roof, Survive anything and never lost, Survived land, Defeated Sandy, Trick Sandy, Can Destroy ALL by himself, Can freeze time by saying lift and doesn't get hurt, Survived A Nuke, knows where you get lost somewhere, Vanished if you caught him, Can travel places with his imagination, Can eat Hard items, Can do anything, Can create a magic pencil from his sock or another part of the pencil , Can defeat the dirty bubble by a pencil and more like: Be cool then freezing a place, Can control jellyfish 🪼, Can scared you by himself laughing, can turn anything to life, Like chum, can make your ear bleed, and more abilities Survive Freezing temperature 🗿💪. Dies then Came back from a tear. Time travel. Rewind Time. Turn to Golden. Might be radioactive. Become robot in future. King Neptune power. And More. I am a Huge fan, always loves him and stay on his side. And he is insanely strong he just trying to hide it. With SpongeBob help, He becomes stronger than Humans Can destroy anything. And more like in comics, And movie.
Crazy how only a few days later an Epic Mickey Remake gets announced by the developers of SpongeBob BFBB Rehydrated
Not sure, I would say Mickey is the strongest toon in history, but I would give that to Bugs Bunny because Looney Tunes are generally more violent and crazy.
I think this battle between Mickey and SpongeBob might have to do with characters usually depicted in a mild-mannered manchild kind of way, and was flanderized beyond it's original intention to the point of non-recognition; and I'm assuming that comparison because of how Mickey's depiction in "The Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse" is very unappealing to me.
@@robbiewalker2831what are you talking about?
just cuz they are more violent dont mean hes stronger
I gotta deny this, im sorry- but I have a few pieces of evidence of why SpongeBob survives erasure.
Spongebob might be able to survive erasure. But Mickey's brush is not erasure.
It operates on a level beyond the writers, and typical boundaries of fiction.
Because it can off characters like Buggs Bunny, who has survived, replaced, or outright stalemated the authors/animators, on numerous occasions. Meaning Mickey can effectively melt author level characters, as well as negate their hax.
@TUCKALMIGHTY It came from the string, which Patrick erased him with near the end of the episode; it even affected the real world above, plus, since you say the page embedded into Spongebob's head comes from real life, can't he just make himself immune to that?
@TUCKALMIGHTY and plus, Mickey can't just outright just do that, he has to catch SpongeBob.
I would say it's a stalemate, even if SpongeBob was erased or whatever, he can still be remembered by all those who had watched him which is the source of his true immortality stated by Frenchy the narrator.
And one more thing, no one is beyond the authors, it's all scripted; no matter how we perceive the powers of our beloved characters, they are still under non fiction, they don't exist, so no one is beyond the author, Disney owns Mickey and Nickelodeon owns SpongeBob.
i wonder if uncle grandpa can beat mickey
since even if mickey used that cool brush another uncle grandpa would come out of nowhere and say "boy i'm glad that isn't me"
I don’t think SpongeBob needs water to survive anymore
Yep, he's been shown to breathe above water
yea that's been very inconsistent
even after the movie, he still can get dehydrated out of water so it isn't the most consistent thing
@@christinarawlings948 dude he literally breathe the moment he was out of the shop meaning his adaption is so quick and fast that you didnt even notice cope harder and even in the new movie of sandy cheeks journey to stop her former company spongebob literally breath without water multiple times the facts are there spongebob beats mickey done the debate is over plus spongebob can survive the pot paint erasure something
@@footballboy1085 I never said Spongebob couldn't beat Mickey, it's just been pretty inconsistent in the show and in the movies, like multiple times he wasn't able to breath underwater, and other times where he can.
@@christinarawlings948 eh gag moments you know that.
Well i disagree on the paintbrush because spongebob survived getting erased and he also regenerate his body he also gained the ability to breath out of water and he is insanely fast
spongebob can teleport what even the cameraman couldnt saw him and sponge killed cameraman driving his boat. And even with that Spongebob could rewrite his story in the second moive and in comics so Mickey is just too slow for spongebob
We are going off the logic that is applied in who framed Roger rabbit, no matter how much someone or something tries to erase a room they never fully can unless it’s paint thinner
@@Mandismando bruh spongebob can do that.
@@footballboy1085 mickey mouse has been shown to be the only one with that power of thinner cuz he controls thinner
I don’t get why you claim spongebob's durability is inconsistent. He is quite literally never shown taking any serious damage and any "damage" he recieves is almost instantly reverted. It's toon force's most consistent gift: immunity to getting hurt.
And no, spongebob didn’t die in the Spongebob Squarepants movie, he dried. As soon as he got some water on him, he was fine.
I probably should've been a bit more specific with my explanations here. Since what I meant, was basically that Spongebob's level of immunity is portrayed inconsistently. Because he doesn't have any super meta- in universe explanations for it? Like we got in WFRR for Mickey.
For example? Spongebob is unaffected by Flats punches completely in the episode "The Bully" implying some sort of immunity. But in the episode "Home Sweet Pineapple" Patrick smashes Spongebob into small tiny cubes with his physical attacks- implying he can take damage.
Yes, Toon Force can heal or fix Spongebob's wounds without any explanation? But it can just as easily prevent him from healing or tanking damage- like we see very often in the later seasons. Unlike Mickey, who is stated and shown to just be straight up immune to damage from everything.
Also? Spongebob did in fact die (or was about to) because we literally see the sailors in the film, start to cry after seeing Spongebob's demise-- before he manages to become rehydrated. This is also backed up in the nicktoons crossover games, earliest episodes of the show, and the second movie-- as being a consistent way to off the Sponge.
Just my thoughts though, hope that explained my opinions on it.
Keep lying like a clown lol. Spongebob has literally gotten a balck eye for a entire episode
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It's not toon force healing him it's because has absorbency and able to regrow new limbs
@@WhyDoIExistfrit's both
Lots think but Mickey had lots of OP egos.
But Spongebob had near balanced egos.
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"SpongeBob's world outshined Mickey Mouse in karate because SpongeBob's unique blend of underwater agility and irrepressible enthusiasm gave him the edge. Mickey Mouse might have charm and magic, but SpongeBob's karate moves, fueled by his oceanic training and sponge flexibility, made him a formidable opponent. Plus, his never-give-up attitude and quirky techniques proved to be a winning combination!"
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Not completely public domain mouse vs Not public domain sponge
I'm still curious about Mario vs Mickey now, especially watching this video. I know you said you would cover this after Mario gets a new game, but after the two gotten remakes of older titles, I wonder if this match up composite wise is much closer then the match-up here, considering the wild stuff Paper Mario, Super Mario Rpg, and even some Mario and Luigi titles holds.
Definitely not because SpongeBobs pencil can destroy all of fiction.
He can't
@@lokimiguel2452he wiped out the hole universe with a string
@@OJs_SonicPlush incredibly weak cannot bypass toonforce
@@lokimiguel2452 spongebob also has toon force what u talkin abt
@@haloguywhohasneverplayedhalo yes and the brush wipes out toon force users
Good analysis. I have one quibble though. Toon force isn't "quite literally the strongest power in fiction." The potency of a superpower usually depends on the character using it and/or how strong it's written to be in the fiction in question. It's easy to imagine an outstanding maximum potential of toon force, but the same can be told for abilities it takes after, such as reality warping and plot manipulation. In different examples, any of those abilities can easily be written as more powerful than the others.
i hope this guy knows that in basically every show the authors protect the characters unless they js want them to die so i dont think that should play a factor in a 1v1 wit there abilities that were given to them to make them who they are ( so what im saying is him saying spongebob is saved by the writers and stuff and he toon force is kinda stupid bc that is with most characters in cartoons so it shouldnt be like a factor in 1v1 with there abilities are given to them also you could argue that mickey mouse also has toon force but that does not matter cause he has the abilities so still count it if its there abilities that they have)
The reason I factored the Authors into this fight is because Toon Force allows a character to surpass their author.
Mickey has directly influenced the animation cells, SpongeBob has directly erased things from the frame, and characters like Buggs Bunny can even straight up replace the Author.
So trying to ignore that aspect of their powerset, would dramatically alter the fight (and basically make it a different topic)
Hope that answers your question!
Have you considered the fact that Spongebob outran the cameraman?
SpongeBob beated Squidward by Laughing, Tricked him, Appeared next to Squidward, Went to drain, Wink and appear back to the krusty Krab.
If I'm understanding the concept of "Toon Force" correctly, it essentially means that whoever cartoon character is wielding it gains both infinite power and infinite pain, completely dependent on whether or not the writers think it's funny. Spongebob and Mickey both have Toon Force, so in the concept of an all-out battle between the two, it will ultimately come down to whatever the funniest outcome will be.
In this video, the final verdict is that Mickey will win because his magical paintbrush beats Spongebob's magical pencil, more or less because the brush's Thinner outranges the pencil's erasure. There is also a lot of explanation behind Mickey's history and training throughout Kingdom Hearts to show his strength against Spongebob, who relies almost completely on Toon Force since nothing is considered 100% canon in any Spongebob lore.
However. If Toon Force is at play, since this battle is fiction, no matter how you spin it, the winner will never be Mickey.
Mickey's long journey and immense explanation for his victory will be his downfall because Toon Force relies on what the funniest outcome will be, which can be one of two things: One outcome is the person with less (or zero) training/experience/knowledge, or overall the bigger disadvantage due to laziness/clumsiness, wins. The other outcome is a third party with significantly less practice/preparation completely destroys both participants and wins. In neither of those two possibilities does Mickey come out on top.
To address the "cartoons beat the writers because of Toon Force" argument, the idea that Mickey, Spongebob, Bugs Bunny, or anyone that wields Toon Force can beat the writers of the battle is simply impossible, because at the end of the day, the writers wrote that the characters can use it in the first place, and they write HOW the characters will use it as well. Absolutely nothing can beat the writers in the end, no matter how much disbelief you try to suspend, because otherwise any battle with Toon Force at play would be completely incomprehensible for the human mind, and we would never know who would actually win without witnessing the fight ourselves, something that can't happen because it's fictional.
Unless I completely misread what Toon Force means or forgot any specific details about either character, this seems like a win for Spongebob.
Awesome video and series, by the way; it's really cool to see someone trying to tackle such difficult battle matchups with considering every possible outcome and world-rule-difference, while still maintaining little to no bias for either character. Loved the Gojo-Sans video as well. 👍
@@JooshReact Toonforce isn’t a meaning. They just cartoons that could survive anything that’s impossible to survive and do anything with in their imagination
@@rapgod1185 toon force has a meaning lol
@@footballboy1085 not really it’s made up lol. It’s only because of cartoon characters
@@footballboy1085 there’s like 4 styles of cartoons or more
W vid
Appreciate the support! Your Spongebob video was 🔥 as well.
The research into obscure games and comic titles is always cool.
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@@TUCKALMIGHTY yeah w video but spongebob beats mickey.
Underrated youtuber
Underrated comment! Thanks.
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@@TUCKALMIGHTY yeah you are underrated but this one you got it wrong
This is a W video. I personally think Sponge boy me Bob wins but it honestly depends on what you believe the context for the character's higher scaling lies and I understand why you say the goat Michael wins.
Mickey being "the strongest Toon in history" is completely wrong because Bugs Bunny exists.
SpongeBob and Mickey could tagteam fight him, and they'd still lose.
With that being said, I do think Mickey can take out SpongeBob - but the same could be said for SpongeBob to Mickey - its a pretty close fight (though slightly in Mickey's favor.)
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Mickey,Bugs and SpongeBob:💀
Bugs Bunny can die from thinner tho, what was stated it Roger rabbit applies to any toon including bugs, but that doesn’t apply to Mickey when we see him little be able to fuse and even held by a thinner made monster in Epic Mickey
@@diegopinnhammer4083he's not as strong as either.
Pop-Eye is a toon with Universal power.
Bugs, SpongeBob, and Mickey have Multiversal power.
And Pop-Eye isn't immune to existence erasure. Which all of these 3 can do.
@@Mandismandowe saw Bugs get erased from existence and came back. The thinner wouldn't work on him.
You said it like spinach didn't exist popeyes spinach is one advantage when the time god erase he just pulls a spunach even when erase so.@@elcato8126
nah spogbo solos
Nah cap Mickey solos mid-diff
@@starternoob3379 nah spongebob solos mid diff
@@footballboy1085 cap.
@@starternoob3379 cap your point.
@@starternoob3379SpongeBob for sho.
SpongeBob beated Squidward from bathtub to krusty Krab by winking, Laughing.
And More:
Like Can Burn anything.
Freeze anything by being Cool Bob.
Can survive with no eyes for a second, Defeat Karate As not as a master.
Survive Jellyfish.
Can move planets by looking at it, Can go trough CPU and view Data.
Can even Rotate the World by wrench.
And Scared anyone.
Can Exploded, Regen to Normal.
SpongeBob can Survive anything:
How? Multiplication, Immune to die, Survive crashed, Explosion, Shape shift, Being split, Survive Cannon ball, Has ability to swim fast, Can fly by his pants and statlua, Panels switching, Regen, Can be young, Survive Greese burning him, Invisible, and View Future, Turn to anything, , Can go to anywhere with cotton candy, Toon forced, flying, Snail form, Survived Being crush Less than a second, Aressed anything, Survive anything, Survived being Burned by the sun, Can Make the galaxy planets crash by looking at it, and Trip anyone, Burn the part of the world by his tounge speed, And lots more like Panel Switching, Scared anyone by abrasive side, Survived by falling, Cannot be aressed, Can beat anyone in a race as he beaten Squidward from to his bathroom then appeared at krusty Krabs , can Burn a place by falling asleep, bad breath to Kill someone, can make his reflection talk back and infinity more like: Dream Reality and Survived the salty Spittoon, Survive the Grill, can stand on the roof, Survive anything and never lost, Survived land, Defeated Sandy, Trick Sandy, Can Destroy ALL by himself, Can freeze time by saying lift and doesn't get hurt, Survived A Nuke, knows where you get lost somewhere, Vanished if you caught him, Can travel places with his imagination, Can eat Hard items, Can do anything, Can create a magic pencil from his sock or another part of the pencil , Can defeat the dirty bubble by a pencil and more like: Be cool then freezing a place, Can control jellyfish 🪼, Can scared you by himself laughing, can turn anything to life, Like chum, can make your ear bleed, and more abilities.
SpongeBob can rewrite this story
No he can't
@@lokimiguel2452 someone never read the comics
@@horrorman-er4nk mickey can rewrite his story it doesn't matter lol
@@lokimiguel2452 SpongeBob unravel the entire universe
@@lokimiguel2452 Mickey has a wizard's hat SpongeBob has a magic page which is more powerful you think
Mickey mouse is the best cartoon forever
Spongebob is the worst , i hate him
soapble dopagne wins because he is ready and is strong
Very good scaling, I’m glad u didn’t downplay either of them, but i need to advice, u should be specific for which version of mickey mouse ur using, cuz most people would think ur talking about the recent one, or the clubhouse one, that’s why people would get confused and upset, the mickey u used here was epic mickey after all, right? And that’s a different version, you should always specify that
spongebob beats all versions of mickey
Neither of them win blud 💀. Legends never fight
ughh
rude
@@gabrielnavia-d3m its true for real legends never die and legends never fight yeah spongey boy and the hazardous magical mouse both w legends
alr i am joking but still legends
I think mickey wins my reasoning is Mickey have paintbrush thinner which can erase boundaries between Disney Disney have boundaries with marvel marvel high tiers like toaa are outer-boundless which upscales any feat spongebob have basically
Nice argument.Grammar pls.
@@THE-KILLER-CLOWN lol
not true spongebob over marvel and dc verse.
@@footballboy1085 mickey is infinite layers into boundless
Bugs bunny be like bruv I destroy both of them
He loses
@@lokimiguel2452 spongebob>bugs bunny>mickey mouse.
@@footballboy1085 based on what
@@lokimiguel2452 toon force,regeneration,speed run faster than the cameraman hello are we forgetting the camera guy is a meme character that shouldnt be possible he is the on recording the series how is he not able to track spongeob speed and spongeob unravled the universe so fast people think it is reality when it is not and he saved the nick multiverse yeah mickey saved the disney multiverse but spongebob rarely gets damaged and mickey gets damged for the right reasons he got damged by pete and donald and more and spongwbob would beat them with his pencil and even if mickey has the paintbrush spongebob pencil would erase it and the pencil has to is just get wet by the paint and brush it off with water simiple and bugs bunny still has some author limitations like he got affected by daffy and he had a problem with the author erasing his head while spongebo just literally laughed after patrick erased him with a string that can also erase anything as long as someone is pulling it make it make sense and saitama beats all of them and solo fiction his infinite strength cant cap to nothing he also one shots himself from before and doing that is better than gojo's aura in his verse.
@footballboy1085 he can still be erased in the brush cause donald couldn't
6:08 YES!
spongebob no diffs
Mickey Mouse slams
Cap
SpongeBob for sho will win..
SpongeBob beated Squidward from bathtub to krusty Krab by winking, Laughing.
And More:
Like Can Burn anything.
Freeze anything by being Cool Bob.
Can survive with no eyes for a second, Defeat Karate As not as a master.
Survive Jellyfish.
Can move planets by looking at it, Can go trough CPU and view Data.
Can even Rotate the World by wrench.
And Scared anyone.
Can Exploded, Regen to Normal.
SpongeBob can Survive anything:
How? Multiplication, Immune to die, Survive crashed, Explosion, Shape shift, Being split, Survive Cannon ball, Has ability to swim fast, Can fly by his pants and statlua, Panels switching, Regen, Can be young, Survive Greese burning him, Invisible, and View Future, Turn to anything, , Can go to anywhere with cotton candy, Toon forced, flying, Snail form, Survived Being crush Less than a second, Aressed anything, Survive anything, Survived being Burned by the sun, Can Make the galaxy planets crash by looking at it, and Trip anyone, Burn the part of the world by his tounge speed, And lots more like Panel Switching, Scared anyone by abrasive side, Survived by falling, Cannot be aressed, Can beat anyone in a race as he beaten Squidward from to his bathroom then appeared at krusty Krabs , can Burn a place by falling asleep, bad breath to Kill someone, can make his reflection talk back and infinity more like: Dream Reality and Survived the salty Spittoon, Survive the Grill, can stand on the roof, Survive anything and never lost, Survived land, Defeated Sandy, Trick Sandy, Can Destroy ALL by himself, Can freeze time by saying lift and doesn't get hurt, Survived A Nuke, knows where you get lost somewhere, Vanished if you caught him, Can travel places with his imagination, Can eat Hard items, Can do anything, Can create a magic pencil from his sock or another part of the pencil , Can defeat the dirty bubble by a pencil and more like: Be cool then freezing a place, Can control jellyfish 🪼, Can scared you by himself laughing, can turn anything to life, Like chum, can make your ear bleed, and more abilities.
@@Guest-os4ydnah Mickey Mouse>midbob fodderpants
@JalenJennings-it4xd SpongeBob Survived Nuke, A Punch, Explosion, Failing, Bomb, And more and Land
Mickey would not right near SpongeBob.
SpongeBob can damage Mickey by bubble and Gary, More.
@ doesn’t matter he’s not defeating Mickey
@JalenJennings-it4xd Mickey mouse is scared of himself 💀
Nice❤
3:24 RAHHHHH
I'm voting SpongeBob all the way.
Tune force, it’s not a power it’s just a series of gags come up by the writer for the sake of humor and time because they cannot animate every specific thing character does, because that would be costly. We understand that is the reason why and except that these guys are nothing more than beer jokes obviously Pulling things out of mid air it’s just they don’t have time to animate so we just have to suspend our disbelief to except these things we except that these are jokes not meant to be taken seriously because the cartoons tune force is not a power we I don’t know where this is coming from why people cannot accept that or getting this From but it could not be further from the truth it’s just to make you laugh nothing more because these characters are not fighters, not serious fighters like you would see in other shows, so we give them these “powers, because it’s the only thing they have that we can compare them to win this versus series
Brosky frl wrote a whole paragraph about how it's not that deep meanwhile showing how deep he thinks it isnt 😭
you must be fun at parties,you boring ahhh edgy boy
I ain't reading alllat
It's a fucking cartoon cartoon character are always doing laughs and giggles crap especially if they have toon force and it's a plotless cartoon character that's why I include stuff for cartoon characters and spongebob and mickey I'm pretty sure has feats that they don't use toon force
uh spongebob has mastered karate and has toon force your explanation please i would love to hear.
👑Bob>>
SpongeBob would just rewrite the fight and make him win it 🤷
mickey can do the same exact thing bro... all mickey has to do is say no and spongebob loses
@@BriskvrSpongeBob Wil repear though and makes Micky confused Then win
Proof:
SpongeBob for sho.
SpongeBob beated Squidward from bathtub to krusty Krab by winking, Laughing.
And More:
Like Can Burn anything.
Freeze anything by being Cool Bob.
Can survive with no eyes for a second, Defeat Karate As not as a master.
Survive Jellyfish.
Can move planets by looking at it, Can go trough CPU and view Data.
Can even Rotate the World by wrench.
And Scared anyone.
Can Exploded, Regen to Normal.
SpongeBob can Survive anything:
How? Multiplication, Immune to die, Survive crashed, Explosion, Shape shift, Being split, Survive Cannon ball, Has ability to swim fast, Can fly by his pants and statlua, Panels switching, Regen, Can be young, Survive Greese burning him, Invisible, and View Future, Turn to anything, , Can go to anywhere with cotton candy, Toon forced, flying, Snail form, Survived Being crush Less than a second, Aressed anything, Survive anything, Survived being Burned by the sun, Can Make the galaxy planets crash by looking at it, and Trip anyone, Burn the part of the world by his tounge speed, And lots more like Panel Switching, Scared anyone by abrasive side, Survived by falling, Cannot be aressed, Can beat anyone in a race as he beaten Squidward from to his bathroom then appeared at krusty Krabs , can Burn a place by falling asleep, bad breath to Kill someone, can make his reflection talk back and infinity more like: Dream Reality and Survived the salty Spittoon, Survive the Grill, can stand on the roof, Survive anything and never lost, Survived land, Defeated Sandy, Trick Sandy, Can Destroy ALL by himself, Can freeze time by saying lift and doesn't get hurt, Survived A Nuke, knows where you get lost somewhere, Vanished if you caught him, Can travel places with his imagination, Can eat Hard items, Can do anything, Can create a magic pencil from his sock or another part of the pencil , Can defeat the dirty bubble by a pencil and more like: Be cool then freezing a place, Can control jellyfish 🪼, Can scared you by himself laughing, can turn anything to life, Like chum, can make your ear bleed, and more abilities.
@@Guest-os4yd u realize mickey along with shaggy is the only official toon in history that survived thinner which is 100x stronger then dip making him the ony known toon to truly never die
@@Briskvr Yea but Mickey Can't survive the sun heat.
@@Briskvr He destroyed the galaxy. He is God level like OOA in marvel.
SpongeBob for sho is powerful.
SpongeBob beated Squidward from bathtub to krusty Krab by winking, Laughing. And More: Like Can Burn anything. Freeze anything by being Cool Bob.
Can survive with no eyes for a second, Defeat Karate As not as a master.
Survive Jellyfish. Can move planets by looking at it in space (SpongeBob SquarePants movie #2: SpongeBob out of the water)
And More going on: His episode show he can do.
Can go trough CPU and view Data.
Can even Rotate the World by wrench.
And Scared anyone.
Can Exploded, Regen to Normal.
SpongeBob can Survive anything: How?
Multiplication, Immune to die, Survive crashed, Explosion, Shape shift, Being split, Survive Cannon ball, Has ability to swim fast, Can fly by his pants and statlua, Panels switching, Regen, Can be young, Survive Greese burning him, Invisible, and View Future, Turn to anything, , Can go to anywhere with cotton candy, Toon forced, flying, Snail form, Survived Being crush Less than a second, Aressed anything, Survive anything, Survived being Burned by the sun, Can Make the galaxy planets crash by looking at it, and Trip anyone,
Burn the part of the world by his tounge speed,
And lots more like Panel Switching, Scared anyone by abrasive side, Survived by falling, Cannot be aressed, Can beat anyone in a race as he beaten Squidward from to his bathroom then appeared at krusty Krabs , can Burn a place by falling asleep, bad breath to Kill someone, can make his reflection talk back and infinity more like: Dream Reality and Survived the salty Spittoon, Survive the Grill, can stand on the roof, Survive anything and never lost,
Survived land, Defeated Sandy, Trick Sandy,
Can Destroy ALL by himself, Can freeze time by saying lift and doesn't get hurt,
Survived A Nuke, knows where you get lost somewhere, Vanished if you caught him, Can travel places with his imagination, Can eat Hard items, Can do anything, Can create a magic pencil from his sock or another part of the pencil ,
Can defeat the dirty bubble by a pencil and more like:
Be cool then freezing a place,
Can control jellyfish 🪼, Can scared you by himself laughing, can turn anything to life, Like chum, can make your ear bleed, and more abilities
Survive Freezing temperature 🗿💪.
Dies then Came back from a tear.
Time travel.
Rewind Time.
Turn to Golden.
Might be radioactive.
Become robot in future.
King Neptune power.
And More. I am a Huge fan, always loves him and stay on his side.
And he is insanely strong he just trying to hide it.
With SpongeBob help,
He becomes stronger than Humans Can destroy anything.
And more like in comics, And movie.
SpongeBob and bugs bunny solos