Complete Engine Destruction in 3, 2, 1... It's Called Antifreeze For A Reason...
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Northern NY lifelong auto mechanic here. I have NEVER seen a frozen block broken that badly. That had to be a 20deg below 0F for a week filled with straight water. People up here know to either have it full of strong mix coolant or completely empty to avoid overwinter damage.
I don’t live in the Yankee lands but know if it’s straight water to drain it whenever expecting a freeze
Ouch. Looks like something you’d see on the I Do Cars channel.
Yup! I watch that one as well. He strips down some seriously destroyed engines.
Thanks for showing that! I've never seen it that bad! I live in Chicago and the second most important thing after good brakes is a solid cooling system with correct coolant. Thanx 4 sharing and I'll keep watching! ✌️😎👍
Been there, Back in 1981 I lost 2 engines. I had a 455 Olds in my shrimp boat that was cooled by a Jabsco pump(seawater). It was unusually cold for us, it got down to 15. We would use lightbulbs under the engine box to keep them from freezing. Well my bulb burned out, you can guess the rest. I was lucky enough to find another engine out of a junk yard that was like new so cheap, I was almost happy it happened. The other was a 400 cu in ford Grand Torino, beautiful car. I had a '67 GMC step side truck that needed antifreeze also. I opened the drain on the radiator of the car and had already had the radiator cap off of the truck(doing both same time). When I looked into the radiator of the truck, the thermostat must have opened at the same time (I think it had some ice in it already) It blew up in my face and scalded me bad, I was messed up. I could not finish the job. I figured since I drained the radiator that it would be ok, WRONG. The dang truck was fine, I was thankful for that, at least I still had wheels. I question to this day, what good are freeze plugs?? They do not work at all, ever! Why do they even put the holes in the blocks for them? Absolutely stupid. Sorry for the rant, It still pees me off even today(42 years later) when I think about it. Thanks for the video Kenny, I never did believe in that stop leak. Man I would love to have those 2 vehicles today.
The holes are in the block as part of the casting process for the block. Can't make most blocks without the holes.
My buddy has one of the very rare 3/4 ton Chevy Avalanches with that 8.1 in it...man that's a powerful truck !! 😊
The 8.1 is a beast of a motor . Reasonably trouble free
@Wrenching With Kenny the 8.1 is an excellent workhorse. They do burn quite a lot of oil though. Every single one that I've worked on or been around all burn about a quart of oil every 1000 miles or so.
Another thing about running straight water; you'll burn up the water pump seals. Antifreeze lubricates them. I had a leaky radiator for a couple weeks in Texas and was filling the system up with water to go to work and again to go home every day, about 10 days worth. Got paid, replaced the radiator and hoses but not even 2 weeks later still almost new water pump was leaking and I had to change that out again. Learned my lesson!!
You can also corrode things badly
@@stringpicker5468 Not in 10 days.
STALAGMITES > G = Ground or cave floor.
STALACTITES > C = Ceiling or over your head.
That's how I remember them, and it's still working.
STOP-LEAK isn't good, Especially when you use like, 4 bottles of the stuff!!! I think they got a bit of water in with it!!!
This was fun, Kenny! 😁😁👍👍💯
So glad I live in CA
Now you've done it... There's going to be that one guy who stuffs Tums in his radiator...🤭
Thank you, ive heard for years about cracked blocks but have never seen one. NAPA just convinced me to get a stop leak stuff for rear main seal on an 02 f150 4.2L engine, but i think i will take it back and get my money back, this truck has 241,940 miles on it. We have only put about 600 miles on it since buying it, and it leaks oil, so its been sitting alot. Problems are being fixed slowly on it as my budget allows.
My daughter worked at a mine at a place called Red Lake in Ontario somewhat north of 50. The first accessory on a new car was an engine block heater even with antifreeze.
Great video. Glad he could get his money back..
Here in Upstate New York, we use pure 100% engine coolant. Because when it gets to -25F even the 50/50 mixed coolant is risky. We have had freeze plugs fail with the 50/50 mix coolant. It also seems as though it takes forever to get cabin heat out of the trucks if we don't warm them up first. Block heaters help to.
I didn't know 💯 percent coolant could be run in a car. I have thought 💭 about doing that.
Kenny, that looks like they added multiple cans trying to get it to seal up! Dang!
It's an absolute mess . It's better that we tore it down before hand though . I find it amazing that he said it was running decent
@@WrenchingWithKenny for sure, and glad the buyer can get his money back or at least another engine, looked like a gen 5 or 6 big block Chevy?
@@WrenchingWithKenny they probably only ran it long enough to say it wasn't knocking or blowing blue smoke. Who knows if the cooling system was hooked up?!
I've seen the side of the block knocked out... But NEVER seen cracks like THIS! WOW!
(I froze a Chevy 267 and left a chunk of the block, like a slice of bread, laying on the gound....
in the 80’s i bought a 340 for my ‘72 challenger that was painted up and had a tag showing compression for all 8 cylinders, it was mounted on an engine stand in car parts showroom, long story short, i bought it, block was badly cracked. I asked for my money back and threatened them with better business bureau and they laughed at me and said they get reported all the time.
They got their block back through the window at night a week later.
I kept the heads.
Watching from Rhode Island-clearly-that motor has developed a crack addiction.
Thank You Kenny for sharing this awesome video with us. Great wealth of information always in Your videos.
Much Love and Hugs
Some of that stuff in the valve cover looked like coagulated coolant. I've seen the after affects of 2 different coolants mixed in a diesel engine that weren't compatible and it turns to a gel. We got lucky and were able to use a flush to get it to dissolve enough to get the block and radiator cleaned out, it actually took about 3 flush refills to accomplish that. That by far is the worst abuse of block sealants I've ever seen.
Canada here... "hold my beer"
I've seen cracked blocks here in southern Louisiana
As long as you can get a freeze , it can happen
"It's a good motor at a great price!" Too good to be true?
What you got there is what the farmers call Poor Man's Dynamite. It's amazing how much power there is in the expansion of water.
Caves develop both calcium stalagmites and stalactites... so you're right on both. Stalactites grow from the top and downward, stalagmites grow from the ground and upwards.
My used car manager took in a small 4 cylinder Chevy S10. The customer never told him that it had water in it. Over the weekend it went down to -15 in Minneapolis and it split the block almost in 1/2 along with the thermostat housing.
I live in a fairly cold climate. I had a 1965 Ford Galaxie with a 240 six cylinder and had a too strong mix in the radiator - 70+. One very cold day driving to work The temp gauge showed it was overheating so I pulled over to the side of the road and very gingerly opened the rad cap. The antifreeze had gelled inside the radiator tank. It was actually like a mush. I never thought it could do that but evidently it can. So I drained a little bit of antifreeze out and added some water. Maybe a cup. Started it and let it run for a few minutes and shut it off and checked the rad level. It turned back to a liquid solution and the temp gauge showed a normal engine temp. I drove it home and got a proper antifreeze tester and followed the recommended mixing. Life was good again and I learned a valuable lesson.
When I was young I worked at plant that made engine stop leak and the little pellets in a solution came in 50lbs bags and I asked "WHAT IS THI STUFF" and they told me it's rabbit food and it came from a major farm supply company!
Good evening Mr Kenny I'm waiting on more of your stories, wow that engine is totaled
Bit of J B weld and it will be fine🤣🤣
when you have no choice...ALWAYS drain all the water from cooling system, start in the morning, warm up, add water, run errand (preferably to get antifreeze) then drain all water again after cool down. next morning repeat or add antifreeze. I had to do this for a week in the winter until I got antifreeze. Don't destroy your motor.
When I was 17 , I was dead ass broke and my radiator was leaking like crazy in my Dodge Omni . It was February in upstate NY . I had to wait til the end of the week to get paid enough to get a radiator and coolant . I kept putting straight water in just because I had no choice. The engine didn't have a block drain so what i did was get an old blanket we kept for the dogs, and I covered the motor . Then every 90 minutes I'd get up, run outside, warm the car up and recover the motor !!! Luckily gas was only a buck a gallon and my buddies threw me a dollar or two every day for a ride to school !!! I never asked my parents for money, I made sure I did everything myself
StalagTite has a T in it like TOP.
Learned that when I was a wee lad. My knowledge base is all mnemonic.
Or it holds on TIGHT!
Knew a guy that had an El Camino. He was a bit down on his luck and his car sat in winter with just water in it. He got lucky as a freeze plug gave way first and drained what it could.
That was one big freeze, both sides of the block, ouch!
That good buy is anything but a good buy. And the customer must find another engine.
oh boy!
I've seen this a lot along the interstate here in the Midwest. People from deep southern US will try to travel to the upper midwest in the winter and break down the first time they hit cold weather. One I met was at the truck stop in KC waiting for Travelers Aid to help them. I ask what was the issue. The totally clueless driver stated that the car was over heating and he didn't have cash for a shop to work on it. Told me where he was from, just about a days travel from home to where we were. I asked him about his anti freeze coolant. He never heard of it, didn't know that water expanded when frozen. All the time we were talking he never cared that maybe it could still be saveable if he tried to add some antifreeze as the block might still be warm enough to save. I just walked away, you can't help stupid.
Wow I've ran across some bad frozen blocks but that takes the cake.
Ive seen those cone-shaped deposits in a bat cave years ago
For someone to wreck a big 8 litre block like that takes some work!! No wonder it was a “Good Price”!
That is one trashed engine! Good advertisement for keeping your antifreeze proper up north!
It's really a must !!!
I’ve seen a few mechanics from warmer climates move to where I live. Then they freeze the block.
It’s pretty funny- they are mechanics….. and still fuck this up.
Oof! I’ve been told before to avoid Stop Leak and other additives, but I’ve never seen an engine that had that stuff in it. That’s horrible!
It's was surprising to us too. Thanks for watching 🔧
Yes I’ve seen that here in Michigan! Gotta keep that antifreeze in it up here. Remember years ago a buddy had a early seventies Newport that was froze we thawed it same thing minus the stop leak, block was cracked👍
Fellow Michigander here. I have seen several motors freeze and crack from having water in them.
Both words are correct the only difference between tite&mite one is on the ceiling the other on the floor
I had a Cougar that blew a freeze plug and the place it went was packed full of stop leak so I had to have the coolant system and radiator flushed by a shop but luckily none got into the oil like this, what a damn mess!
That block is now perfect for making a coffee table . Lol
Wow, I have heard of that, but have never seen it, fortunately it does not get that cold in my part of Australia. Thanks for showing that.
Bet they added another bottle of stop leak at every water fill as well.
Great example of a bad product. Thanks a lot
Somebody put more then a couple of stop lesk treatments in that one
JB Weld fix that right up
I've seen blown head gaskets with that residue in it, but never saw a block crack like that, ice under pressure will win.
Yeesh, that's bad! I just happened to notice your 3/8 Matco battery ratchet on the cart there. I have the same one. Bought it used over 10 years ago, still use it every day. It's got the perfect lack of umph to not over tighten things like hose clamps, if that makes sense. I had a customer bring in a Firebird years ago with a complaint of a coolant leak. I could see that it had been sitting and it was a nice car, I think it was a '91, had a beautiful running 305 in it, and a gigantic chunk out of the block on one side. I can only suspect that it'd frozen at one point
He didn't see the growth on the outside the block?
I would have been questioning it right then. Sheesh.
Wow, cool. Didn’t even pop out the so called “freeze plugs”?
I had a boat I forgot to winterize and cracked the block and head. 4 cylinder GM mercruiser
I think it's a shady salvage yard that sold him that engine.
Kenny are you kiddin’? I use stop leak in everything especially in the coolant. Just cause. I just kidding but I have used it in several cars because it usually slows down the urgency of some leaks. It should only do that where there’s air though, so if you put it in a good leak free cooling system it should just never harden and flush right out like normal 50/50 antifreeze. You see everywhere it was built up is at big leaks filled with air.
The white stuff is literally calcium material build up, someone was putting some really hard well water in that engine for a while.
Dang how much stop leak did they dump into that cooling system.
Wow, I had to buy a junkyard engine for my Toyota and it had problems not like that.
Wow! I’m glad he can get his money back best to ask for your mechanic to get a used engine.
I didn’t know I should have asked if it was running or see if it ran before I bought it.
Stalactites hold tight to the ceiling, stalagmites might reach the ceiling.
From the Berenstain Bears, “Stalactites and stalagmites, only caves have got 'em. Tites are always on the top and mites are on the bottom”.
Never underestimate the power of water.
A stalactite is an icicle-shaped formation that hangs from the ceiling of a cave and is produced by precipitation of minerals from water dripping through the cave ceiling. Most stalactites have pointed tips.
WOW-Never seen one that bad great video.
They had to put more than one bottle of stop leak in the mill. I seen cracked blocks over the years but nothing like that.
Stalactite: c for ceiling, Stalagmite: g for ground. Cheers
This is what a couple of $15 jugs of antifreeze would have saved.
I'd take it right back to the junkyard. You never know what you're getting from them
We all love carnage....unless it's our own! Great example of why to never use water unless absolutely necessary and then only for a short time to get you to where you can drain it out and refill with antifreeze again.
Hey Kenny, I got an engine for a great price! LOL.
To remember stalagmites and stalactites just think of ants in your pants. When the mites go up, the tights come down. 😀
Oochy mama! Water in oil always grosses me out - looks like diarrhea.
Someone came my work years ago. It was somewhere around 10 degrees Fahrenheit outside. They said their engine was overheating, and was there anything I could do. I asked for more information. Which led to me asking if they had put antifreeze in their coolant system. They seemed dumbfounded at such a question and said no. I told them their radiator was probably an ice cube and they should stop driving their jeep if their was any hope of saving it. After watching this video I’m sure the damage was already done and overheating was the least of their concern. Can’t fix stupid I guess.
Wow. Never seen that happen? Usually the freeze plugs pop out when the block freezes? That's crazy!
I've actually done what was supposed to be a temporary repair on a buddies chevy with a small block that cracked the outside of block. Freeze plugs didn't budge . But the block split . I drilled a hole at each end of the crack, ground down the crack with a hand held grinder , then JB Weld packed into it. Let it sit for 48 hours with a droplight keeping heat on it (it was winter). It actually worked out perfectly and held for 3 years !!!! Go figure !!!!
I was taught in school they are core plugs for casting purposes and the so called freeze plugs just block the holes not Intended to pop out during freezing
Yeah there are no guarantees. Those plugs aren't there for freezing, they're just core plugs for the casting process.. sometimes they happen to pop when the block freezes, sometimes not.. They're not designed to save your engine.
@bread-chan YEP 👍
I've had that core plug pop out,when my block froze,years ago ,that's why I thought it a freeze plug? Thanks for educating me on the difference. I put one of those rubber plugs in with the bolt in it . Tighten it up and it sealed the hole. Lasted a couple winters,before i got rid of that car. I live in Ft Lauderdale now. So I'm not gonna have to worry about freezing. But I always use coolant and never straight water.
How many pounds of stop leak do they put in that motor??
It's both stalagmites and stalactites. I think the former is on bottom and the latter is on the top. The way to remember it is stalactites stick tite to the top. Keep the good stuff coming Kenny.
Thank you !!
As the mites go up the tights come down 🤪
It activates with the air...
i would say there was a lot of stop leak added many times ......................
Both stalactite and stalagmite are valid terms Kenny. One means the stuff growing from the ceiling, the other from the floor 😄
The one from the ceiling has to hold on TIGHT! 😉 May you never forget this bit of trivia!
Thanks for the video I've always been curious as to how stop leak works now that I've seen this video I'm glad I've never used it ! I had an old Ford one time an the radiator started leaking my brother in law told me to get some stop leak anit would take care of it but a guy at the arts store told me I would be sorry if I did so just ordered a new radiator for it ! Now after seeing your video I'm definitely glad I listened to the guy at the parts store ! That was a many a yr ago the guy has past away since nut he new about motors and what not to do ! May he R.I.P
This was fascinating - thanks Kenny. I live in a very temperate climate, never gets below 5C (still use anti-freeze be of the corrosion inhibition and also it raises the boiling point too, helpful for those 40C days in summer) so I've never seen blocks freeze and crack before. I assume the freeze plugs failed due to the stop-leak clogging? Otherwise what are they for lol?
Freeze plugs don't actually protect a block from freezing. They are really casting plugs from when the block is formed in the sand mold. They should not have been named Freeze plugs.
@@daveduckworth1800 yeah, the proper name is core plugs...
Ever used that to fix problems..you get bonus problems
Wow
It only takes a couple of minutes to check the antifreeze in the radiator. It only takes a few minutes to drain the water out and refill it with 50/50 water and antifreeze. Basically less than an hour. There is no excuse for running pure water in a modern cooling system.
Going good. A
Did they dump a case of stop leak in it? Looks like multiple treatments.
Just recently subscribed and enjoy your presentations very much.
Yes, he's good!
Easy way to remember.... Stalactite (tite) has a T for top, as opposed to Stalagmite, which has an M for; uhh I don't know what. 😊
Being from New York, I've seen many engines ruined due to freezing. It's more common in boats. Most New York drivers know enough to use antifreeze in their cars but forget the boat.
Stop leak is terrible I only recommenced it one time and that was to a friend that had a engine that was doomed anyway with what I strongly suspected had a bad headgasket or head as it was burning the coolant. They were just trying to buy a little more time
I've done the same . I've used it also in a personal vehicle that I just needed to last another month or so ... it did help get me thru til I finally junked the car
Are the freeze plugs blown out also ? Those plugs are made to give Incase this happens
wow never seen that before.
Pretty dramatic!!
Dang
iam in Texas one of my friends cracked there block this past winter same thing only had water in it not he gots a used engine cause he didn’t know better thinking he can just let it defrost lol 😂 i was a lil kid learning as much as i can and never had that cause i know what to do and dont mine getting my hands dirty 🫡
Seeing this, my question to you is, will the liquid head gasket repair stuff do the same thing?
Actually, this damage may have been caused by over heating the engine after stop leak was applied. I'm surprised that the soft plugs didn't blow in either case. Doesn't this block have 15 of them?
It's a silicate sealer. It's glass.
im not sure what motor that is but frost plugs that didnt pop out . welded in maybe . a lot of boiled water with high concentrated calcium solids in the water jacket . stop leak works for a problem but water neutralizes the stop leak and dissolves it starts braking down . the block braking apart like that must be a bad casting cause the frost plugs are below wear the block is broken .thank for sharing i never seen a block that bad . i will keep my pre 90s Chevy's
Very informative. I have a small block Chevy 86' truck that's been flushed out from very dirty Coolant. From the flushing process, water has been left in it with just a bit of Antifreeze. It's just been sitting for a couple of yrs now. Do I assume that the block has been cracked from sitting. How do I go about knowing without starting it up? Thx bud. PS: I do live here in Southern MO. And it can get very cold lately!
The chunks look like tonsil stones