Lex Vance hey put on some Vids man like them man !keep rocking dude some road music man a lot of road tech warriors will buy it 👍👍👍✊ you got music not like some crap we've to put up with some other channels don't wanna hurt their feelings they good techs but music n singing they should leave it alone phew!
Yea, I Remember the 80's ( well most of it ). I was a Night club photographer for a Mega night club in the 80's , I've thought about putting up the Wet t-Shirt contest / Club bikini contests on you tube. Some good stuff. I've got a Bucket of Photographs that I've not dug through in years. Those were the days ! 35 mm in those days. I think I'll put some up as end roll footage on some vids.
I can recommend the Imperial gear bender for 1 1/8". Our straight pipe most be softer, its described as half hard pipe, as I generally never anneal it unless I an tweaking it by hand. One trick I was shown back when I was learning was once you have the pipe in the bender you want to bend, take another piece of copper that has been cut square, put it in the bended in the ninety degree position (so the cut end touches the side of the pipe you want to bend) you can then line up your mark with either the inside, middle or outside of the short piece of pipe depending on what measurements you are working to so you get the bend in the right place.
Great video I switched to making all my fittings 2 years ago saves tons of money no buying fittings. I bought Hilmore hand swage and ratchet bender wish I would've done it years ago. 👍
Saving for later when I can hear it without background noise.... thanks for sharing and researching part numbers, just by the visuals can tell there is more to learn.
Nice work Dave. I recently got the Hilmor compact bender kit. After years of bending pipe. Nice to have leverage in the palm of your hand. Especially as one gets older.
I never anneal pipe, anything up to 7/8'' will bend ok...even hard drawn. You can get 1 1/8'' gear benders, they save a lot of time and it's fewer joints. I think you should have covered pipe expanders as well, but I appreciate this was a short vid but after bending there is always joining. Expanding soft copper is no problem, but 7/8'' and above you need to anneal if it's hard drawn, again not using a fitting saves another joint. There is a trick to not splitting 3/8'' hard drawn when you expand it...that saves a leak ;) But good vid, there aren't many explaining the dark art of bending pipe!
Nobody has videos on pipe bending. Especially Hard copper. Everything in the store is tubbing or aluminum benders and even the supply houses Locke and Grainger don't have hard copper benders. You can't find advertised hard pipe benders online and nobody will explain the difference on RUclips unless you're diligent and put stuff together. I don't want to become a plumber maybe I just wanna make some weird shit at the lowest cost. Id like to learn how to do a cross over or long bridge. good tip to anneal the pipe but annealing softens the copper is that permanent? I was just gonna throw a spring in the pipe and use the imperial 370FH to slowly bend hard copper but if 1/2 - 3/4 can be done with just the bender; no annealing, that's better.
In Denmark, to graduate your apprenticeship, you have pass a test in bending copper. But most guys, who do installations use fittings, because it's "faster". But i do prefer bending over fittings. Because every soldering is a potential weak spot.
Enjoyed, funny how I have most of the same brands of tools you use..Imperial tube cutters and benders and bernzomatic mapp torch head..must be an over 50 thing..
At work I have a nice set of Swagelok benders from 1/4" to 3/4" for high pressure stainless lines. At home, I have that bender you had on the far right and the slinky slide over ones for in a pinch.
I seen to many videos .and is the best video .. now i need lucky in my old little car brakes lines is a ford escort 93 with 495k .. and run soft and don't smoke .. jjejejeejejejeje .. cheers
I thought that if you cool the pipe with water it rehardens the metal. Appearantly not though because you bent it nicely without kinks. Thanks for the demo
That was friggin awesome Dave!!! ThANKS!! Ordered the 370 from Amazon right before I found this again! We use the YJs in class, but I'm not fond of them, I'm going to see if the Imperial does a little better for me; I think the larger size will be awesome. The 470 was an option, that looks like a real competitor for the YJ with some additional features. Thanks for taking the time to go into so much detail. I enjoyed paying close attention to the color-change and when the black came in for ready-set-done! Again; good stuff. THANKS!
You can't bend hard drawn acr pipe. He took the hard drawn and by heating it (annealing) under nitrogen to avoid the scale, turned it into soft drawn pipe, which you can bend. So technically, if you ask your contractor or anyone else can you bend hard drawn acr pipe, the answer is no.
The 45° mark tip didn't work. I measured and marked 100 mm then bent the pipe, I then measured to see if my bend measured to 100mm, but it didn't. It was more. Is there a way to measure and bend in a way that if you measure for 100mm, you get 100mm after the bend too?
Two categories of copper. Soft and hard ACR tubing. Soft tubing doesn’t require annealling with heat. Sometimes, even old soft copper that’s been in the truck a long time MAY require preheating, especially when you try to flare the copper and it wants to split.
Really good video ! Very well explained. I Rock a Imperial small black bender similar to your one , 7/8" same one , 1/2" imperial smaller and different than your 1/2".
Nor-Cal Refrigeration & H.V.A.C ask for r250 instead of the r290, we are using copper here hecho en mexico! So maybe ask an other whole saler. Saves a lot of time, i even cheat with expanding the pipe
I never bended much pipe, but I laid a lot of pipe in my rock & roll days. Sweet vid Dave!
Lex Vance I played drums in a 13 piece funk back in the 90’s it was sodom and Gomorrah every night🤘🤘🤘🕺🏼
Lex Vance hey put on some Vids man like them man !keep rocking dude some road music man a lot of road tech warriors will buy it 👍👍👍✊ you got music not like some crap we've to put up with some other channels don't wanna hurt their feelings they good techs but music n singing they should leave it alone phew!
Gene K Right on Gene! All music on my channel is me singing & playing guitar.
Yea, I Remember the 80's ( well most of it ). I was a Night club photographer for a Mega night club in the 80's , I've thought about putting up the Wet t-Shirt contest / Club bikini contests on you tube. Some good stuff. I've got a Bucket of Photographs that I've not dug through in years. Those were the days ! 35 mm in those days. I think I'll put some up as end roll footage on some vids.
OcRefrigeration,Hvac & Electrical. I loved the the 80,s mostley i dont remember, the begining of the 90,s mostley missing to😁 ✌🔞
Thank you very much, you made it easy! Just line up to 45 rather than using imperials formulas that just confused me, and I'm a tech teacher.
I can recommend the Imperial gear bender for 1 1/8". Our straight pipe most be softer, its described as half hard pipe, as I generally never anneal it unless I an tweaking it by hand.
One trick I was shown back when I was learning was once you have the pipe in the bender you want to bend, take another piece of copper that has been cut square, put it in the bended in the ninety degree position (so the cut end touches the side of the pipe you want to bend) you can then line up your mark with either the inside, middle or outside of the short piece of pipe depending on what measurements you are working to so you get the bend in the right place.
Great video! I wish they would have taught pipe bending this way in my HVAC/R classes!
Great video I switched to making all my fittings 2 years ago saves tons of money no buying fittings. I bought Hilmore hand swage and ratchet bender wish I would've done it years ago. 👍
Saving for later when I can hear it without background noise.... thanks for sharing and researching part numbers, just by the visuals can tell there is more to learn.
Nice work Dave. I recently got the Hilmor compact bender kit. After years of bending pipe. Nice to have leverage in the palm of your hand. Especially as one gets older.
George W I hear ya there
Great stuff. Newbe here, and I'm terrible at bending pipe. Thanks for the tips!
Saves so much time keep the tips coming Dave
One hell of a good video there, Mr Dave. Thanks so much for all the lessons. god knows i can use them lol.
drifter436 thanks for watching
Line up on the 45.... Great tip Dave.
Much appreciated sir man RUclips is fucking awesome learning some tricks free of charge while enjoying my beer 👍
Good tips for the new guys&girls starting out Dave.
Brad Goodale I hope it helps them a bunch.
yeah great little video for them good on ya.
Hey Dave - great video, professional "old-school" of doing the job correctly. Bending pipe is a skilled art.
Good video Dave very helpful thanks for taking the time to make it
Zw Spiller thanks for tuning in. 👍
Great I never known to line up on the back side of the 90 that's cool and will help me big time thanks Dave 👍🏻
I never anneal pipe, anything up to 7/8'' will bend ok...even hard drawn. You can get 1 1/8'' gear benders, they save a lot of time and it's fewer joints. I think you should have covered pipe expanders as well, but I appreciate this was a short vid but after bending there is always joining. Expanding soft copper is no problem, but 7/8'' and above you need to anneal if it's hard drawn, again not using a fitting saves another joint. There is a trick to not splitting 3/8'' hard drawn when you expand it...that saves a leak ;) But good vid, there aren't many explaining the dark art of bending pipe!
Nobody has videos on pipe bending. Especially Hard copper. Everything in the store is tubbing or aluminum benders and even the supply houses Locke and Grainger don't have hard copper benders. You can't find advertised hard pipe benders online and nobody will explain the difference on RUclips unless you're diligent and put stuff together. I don't want to become a plumber maybe I just wanna make some weird shit at the lowest cost. Id like to learn how to do a cross over or long bridge. good tip to anneal the pipe but annealing softens the copper is that permanent? I was just gonna throw a spring in the pipe and use the imperial 370FH to slowly bend hard copper but if 1/2 - 3/4 can be done with just the bender; no annealing, that's better.
Awesome! Guarantee this will be youtubes #1 video on refrigeration pipe bending!
Thanks for watching 👍
Thank You so much Nor Cal Dave!
the mat your welcome
I like those benders Dave! Good video!
ComfortPlus Heating and Cooling thanks Chuck👍
AWSOME VIDEO!! Great demonstration
McCutcheon Services LLC thanks👍
This is great info!
Great video
That is a great video Dave, well presented!
Paul HVAC thanks Paul
Great demonstration. Great video thank you.
Ron White thanks Ron
Excellent tutorial video thanks for sharing 👈👍👍👍
Gene K thanks for watching
nice tips cal-man
Nice job Dave, thanks for the share
Great video Dave. 👍
In Denmark, to graduate your apprenticeship, you have pass a test in bending copper. But most guys, who do installations use fittings, because it's "faster". But i do prefer bending over fittings. Because every soldering is a potential weak spot.
Great video Dave thank you you should be president😎😎
That was very good thank you for your teaching. God bless
Thanks Dave , you forgot to mention that I suggested you do the pipe bending video! Haha just kidding.
Great video!
Mike Stevenson I new someone asked. See I do listen. And it was a great idea👍👍
Enjoyed, funny how I have most of the same brands of tools you use..Imperial tube cutters and benders and bernzomatic mapp torch head..must be an over 50 thing..
Don Love I find that to awesome most it all works and lasts.
At work I have a nice set of Swagelok benders from 1/4" to 3/4" for high pressure stainless lines. At home, I have that bender you had on the far right and the slinky slide over ones for in a pinch.
Awesome video!! Great Teacher
That's manly YES ! and I like it TOO !
I seen to many videos .and is the best video .. now i need lucky in my old little car brakes lines
is a ford escort 93 with 495k .. and run soft and don't smoke .. jjejejeejejejeje .. cheers
I’ve got that same table on my van. Love that thing. Nice vid.
John McMaster you need that and lawn chair. And you can chill anywhere 👍👍😆
Great Video Dave on How to lay the pipe the right way 😂😬😄🤗🤭 JK on how to bend hard copper or ACR copper 😎
Felipe Tafolla 😂😂😂👍👍
Nor-Cal Refrigeration & H.V.A.C this emoji looks like you with shades on Dave 😎 no kidding
Felipe Tafolla I like this one 🕺🏼
Nor-Cal Refrigeration & H.V.A.C right on 👍🏼😀
Good bending, David
Michael Lee thanks michael
I thought that if you cool the pipe with water it rehardens the metal. Appearantly not though because you bent it nicely without kinks. Thanks for the demo
johnmiller102 I cool it down with wet rags so I can get er done👍
pretty cool...some good info shared...me personally...i would only use a bender up to 5/8 max...fittings for anything larger #justsayin
kingofthecrease30 7/8” all day long.
I like that tip about lining up on the 45 mark. Sweet, I'm going to go ruin some copper until I get it right, THANKS
You gotta learn some how. Just don’t put all your mistakes in one pile. 👍⚡️👍⚡️
best tip and trick for pipe bending, have someone else do it :))
throttle bottle you sir are a Genius👍👍
Does that 45 degree trick go for all benders?
That was friggin awesome Dave!!! ThANKS!! Ordered the 370 from Amazon right before I found this again! We use the YJs in class, but I'm not fond of them, I'm going to see if the Imperial does a little better for me; I think the larger size will be awesome. The 470 was an option, that looks like a real competitor for the YJ with some additional features.
Thanks for taking the time to go into so much detail. I enjoyed paying close attention to the color-change and when the black came in for ready-set-done! Again; good stuff. THANKS!
I had a contractor tell me its impossible to bend hard drawn acr pipe. I guess he never seen it done.
K Mech that how we run pipe. At least how I was trained.
You can't bend hard drawn acr pipe. He took the hard drawn and by heating it (annealing) under nitrogen to avoid the scale, turned it into soft drawn pipe, which you can bend. So technically, if you ask your contractor or anyone else can you bend hard drawn acr pipe, the answer is no.
Great Job thx for sharing!
I've never seen the adjustable type bender
Should the new guys invest in those compact benders like the hilmor or cps?
Very helpful thank you
Dave S S your welcome
The 45° mark tip didn't work. I measured and marked 100 mm then bent the pipe, I then measured to see if my bend measured to 100mm, but it didn't. It was more. Is there a way to measure and bend in a way that if you measure for 100mm, you get 100mm after the bend too?
Thanks for the tips!
Keith Adelbai your welcome
I miss refrigeration. If it wasn't because of the hours I'd go back. But only wine cellars; cause that's all I'm familiar with.
The Air Conditioning Guy the hours are tough I just got home. It’s 9:20 pm. 😂❄️😂❄️😂❄️👍
How to bend 3inches with 3/8 tubing at a 45 degree angle
I've never paid enough atention to the RADIUS lenght, key in benders for condensate loops. 🤦♂️
Greetings from Argentina, you should always warm up before bending the pipes? good video
Two categories of copper. Soft and hard ACR tubing. Soft tubing doesn’t require annealling with heat. Sometimes, even old soft copper that’s been in the truck a long time MAY require preheating, especially when you try to flare the copper and it wants to split.
Dave, are you the owner of Nor Cal refrigeration?
Btw love your videos, 22 years in hvac/r and always learning.
Bryan Hoffman yes.
We Love The Burgers
Sweeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!! Good Job!!!!!
So you cool the pipe after annealing,then bend ? It’s not bent hot is my question.
Andrew Thacker yes you can cool it. So you don’t burn your fingers
like that video thanks my friend....
Can the tubing be expanded by using this method?
Dennis Noone I think so.
Yes if you are trying to avoid using a fitting you can heat the pipe up and use the tube expander. Less brazing required
Where's the spring benders.
Thank you
Ryan Baik your welcome
I rock the hilmor auto Bender!! BUT IT DAVE...YOULL BE DONE WITH ALL THAT...I WAS THE SAME..UNTIL HILMOR MUUUAHAHAHAHHA
HVAC/R DUDE no I’m staying old school 👍👍
Hey, partner, can I buy one of your nor cal decal stickers from you???
jimbola77 the plain silver ones I put on the equipment?
👍👍
At first in your other videos, I thought you said "kneeled" not "anealed" or whatever the spelling is for that word
NSNOfm78 I can’t spell it either. 👍
Annealed (that’s the English spelling)
Really good video ! Very well explained. I Rock a Imperial small black bender similar to your one , 7/8" same one , 1/2" imperial smaller and different than your 1/2".
Never anneal just bend it, semi hard copper straight lenghts from 1/4 to 1-1/8
sjef oekel no semi hard in America only hard.
Same here sjef oekel, have done 1 3/8" with a stand bender without heating.
Nor-Cal Refrigeration & H.V.A.C ask for r250 instead of the r290, we are using copper here hecho en mexico! So maybe ask an other whole saler. Saves a lot of time, i even cheat with expanding the pipe
heavydiesel interesting🤔