Good job Dave. Very neat. Experience has taught me to make separate holes for each suction and liquid line , I also install pvc sleeves....Nuisance call outs on weekends and at midnight because the luquid line has rubbed on the cold room panel
your lineset size has many factors when sizing, coil manufactures provide you the largest. its professional to size your line set correctly. someday you may learn how to be a refrigeration mechanic. 🤣🤘🤣
@NorCal-refrigeration if you need to down size your evaporator line out maybe you choose a coil that is too big for this room Or a small unit for this evaporator More ever between the evaporator and and compressor you have such a pipe length that is even recommended to take a bigger pipe. Suckers don't die only replace Poor customer 😢
Glad you did ACR pipe on this application. A lineset would be difficult to work with there. What do you use to protect the pipe and insulation thru the box hole?
I was always taught to place the reducer upstream of suction trap. That on the horizontal it can act as an oil trap. Just curious. Great videos sir, lots of fun!
Once you get the knack for it Annealing your hard ACR and bending it is easier and faster than cutting it and making an elbow and having to breeze it back on again. And you never ever have to worry about a leak at the two braise points.
sparks a flying when drilling the line-set hole, must have been some hardened metal panel. if you find it chews the hole-saw bits up too fast grab carbide tooth ones(yeah price premium) and slow the speed down some, instead of a few holes they'll make hundreds ;)
The expansion valve function will be normal when its on its side? I was always told otherwise. Finny I just put 6 of these style coils in..can't stand them. Drains and piping come so low...
I noticed You didn't run your suction on a downhill angle towards the condenser like you usually do. I put ptraps only on 12 ft or higher vertical rises. Am I wrong???
Dave, piping looks great but man if I see an apprentice out there using your technique to find center on their suction line hole he’s going to get plumbed up. You show a lot of good practices and measuring off the side and back of box to find true center might be some good info to throw in there...
some of us just have a good eye, I can generally eye ball a hole 3' distance away from starting point and come up less than 1/2" skewed. granted I've been doing various/many construction fields of work since a young brat, electrical, electronics, computers, automotive and more. yes, I have made my share of mistakes and learned the hard way(and still do) Murphy's law has us all the nuts and teetz LOL. it's how you properly deal with, admit to and correct your mistakes, that makes us better humans :)
@@throttlebottle5906 As can Dave apparently, just not good practices for apprentices or recently turned out Journeymen... with reference points so close from side and back of unit it’s laziness not to grab a tape and get it dead on imo. Plumb level and square is priority when I am working on any project...
Nice job Dave, I guess the suction trap is enough since there ain’t much of a height difference, didn’t really need to slope suction after box penetration?
that intro music is total crap............>>>>>> Good job I would of taken shrader valves out while brazing . once bitten twice shy , also did you put sensing bulb up stream or down stream of equaliser ? liked your eye for job neat would be great to hear tech info and why your doing certain things cheers tho nice vid but drop your intro musak jeezus
4:45 - Since you can safely assume your walls are plumb, you can use a tape measure to pull the exact center off the walls instead of guessing where the center of the pipe is. That way your copper will be plumb in all directions. 15:18 - Any concerns about scraping the inside of the insulation over the end of that unprotected tubing getting into the pipe?
I'm with you on using ridgid copper. Its looks so much better. If ya haven't used the zoom lock tool yet you should give it a try. That thing is so nice. Great video as always .
Very neat job Kung Fu Dave , as long as you don't become Kung Flu Dave innit ! Btw , I was told that the bulb has to be " counterflow " to the suction line , meaning that the capillary tube outlet faces the evap , is there any truth in that ? Cheers Dave , very nice 👌.
Layout and drill from above, both hanging bolts and pipes. Drill a smaller hole along side suction for liquid line. Takes a little planning and measuring, much better job. Almost impossible to seal piping pentration with liquid and suction in the same hole, super critical in freezer aplication.
Good work. Your preference for hard pipe ACR tubing rather than soft copper linesets caught my ear. I find it interesting. I also think your way makes the final piping layout look better than lineset piping. The extra step of having to insulate the suction line is worth it. Your work is good.
Nice professional looking workmanship there Dave. I don’t think the go pro on the hat worked that well to be honest, I couldn’t see half of what you were doing. Regardless, it was still a great video, thanks Nor-Cal!
Turd herder pipe. It looks like the liquid line is touching or wants to touch the aluminum box on the inside where you made the hole. That could be a failure point, ripe for rubout.
to help with refrigerant oil return to the condenser/compressor. while the system runs there's always some oil loss via vaporization and misting from the compressor into the system, the trap collects that and allows it to be sent back vertically in slugs or to aerate back into a vapor/mist mixed with the refrigerant gas so it carries back vertical. I'm NOT a teacher nor engineer, so my explanations may not always be the best :)
Plumber copper is M type. K type copper is just like L type nitrogenized and for refrigeration expect it has a much thicker wall. Have ran lots of K type at Costco's very heavy stuff. You'll also recognize K type because it'll come with an orange plug rather than a white one.
@@adriancervantes19 K type is heavy and in Costco you might have run for glycol system. We ran K Type for VRF system (80 ton system) and depending on the project requirements (client) it can be designed. The Ontario building code says L Type copper minimum is required for plumbing. We have green plug in K type copper and its nitrogenized. I think I saw L Type with orange plug. Depending on local building codes it can vary.
Looking Good ! I’ve seen a few of those turbo air condensing units , Looks identical to a heatcraft unit. Re-Badged heatcraft with a different paint job.
Good job Dave. Very neat. Experience has taught me to make separate holes for each suction and liquid line , I also install pvc sleeves....Nuisance call outs on weekends and at midnight because the luquid line has rubbed on the cold room panel
Nice to see the condenser unit up off the roof and mounted on a bracket attached to the parapet wall.
Contractor did that.
so long as the walls are strong enough, often those would be flimsy flappers of rotted mulch lol
Excellent job Dave as always. Cheshire, England. The old U.K.
You tell em Dave, real Tech's don't use the same stuff as toilet mechanics..
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought those were toilet engineers ;)
great job
Hi Dave!!! I’m watching you from Greece!!!
You are doing great job, keep going and keep healthy!!!
Greetings from Greece!!!
Thank you 🤘⚡️🤘
Nice clean work Dave.
When I first started in this trade I was taught to use ridged acr as well but my new company has us use line sets and they always look like crap.
Turbo Air sells split WIC now? Can't wait to start repairing those😆
There condensing units aren’t that bad.
Awesome job!👍😊
Why didn't you turn the condensing unit around for easier servicing, would have been just four more feet of tubing.
Contractor placed it not me. And there’s a nice flat rubber roof on the other side. You’ll see on the start up video
So the p trap is for trapping liquid refrigerant or oil orboth
Why did you install smaller size suction line pipe smaller than what's out of the evaporator
It is totally unprofessional !!!!!!
your lineset size has many factors when sizing, coil manufactures provide you the largest. its professional to size your line set correctly. someday you may learn how to be a refrigeration mechanic. 🤣🤘🤣
@NorCal-refrigeration if you need to down size your evaporator line out maybe you choose a coil that is too big for this room
Or a small unit for this evaporator
More ever between the evaporator and and compressor you have such a pipe length that is even recommended to take a bigger pipe.
Suckers don't die only replace
Poor customer 😢
Hope u have good look with that turbo air coil have had a lot of those solenoid valves leaking by on start up.
Cooked at braze i bet
Your best student 🧑🎓 thanks for making walking freezer electrical video thanks you so much
Glad you did ACR pipe on this application. A lineset would be difficult to work with there. What do you use to protect the pipe and insulation thru the box hole?
Nothing I spray foam it.
Love how youtube captions "we love the lurkers" as "we love the burgers" 😂😂😂💀💀
I was always taught to place the reducer upstream of suction trap. That on the horizontal it can act as an oil trap. Just curious. Great videos sir, lots of fun!
We do some warranty stuff for these guys. Just an FYI they use R600A isobutane baby. More crap to add to the arsenal
Did you use rigid acr pipe for this job? You bent it quite easily without annealing, it looked like.
Change your theme song from that to a different song whatever pick this one’s been going on forever and ever
Appreciate it. But na
@@NorCal-refrigeration how old are u I’m 54 I work at Kroger store in Irmo
That was awesome.
Kung fu panda refrigeration guy? hahahahahaha. That was very funny.
Once you get the knack for it Annealing your hard ACR and bending it is easier and faster than cutting it and making an elbow and having to breeze it back on again.
And you never ever have to worry about a leak at the two braise points.
I’m a bender master.
yep, they need sparky to ignite it, then follow that with the roof-monkeys, cause those shingles are shot.
Clean as usual!!
Wat the size on hole saw ? Gonna run 7/8 w freezer insolation n 3/8 LL
hey, red sanitizer bucket thief! LOL
He said we're not using turd chaser pipe 😂
Thankyou for your video. where did you get the pitch box on roof ? Thankyou
Sheet metal shop makes them for me.
Came out nice Dave 😀
A real tidy install
why you do reduce the suction pipe?
Only needs 7/8” for the line run I have.
I don’t trust my teacher so someone let me know.
Can I ask you a question could you use stay bright 8 all the way perfer brazing all the way
I can’t answer that, because I’ve never used it.
Halu sir, new fanz here... from KSA to philippinez, thankz for sharing keep it up yooouh...
Dip tube goes on bottom i was always told. Great video on an install. Keep get it.
Great to hear back from a great guy who loves to help anyone out. Thanks for the videos and knowledge of the trade.
man, we're going to start calling you Nor-cal "Gonzales" Dave.. at the high speed video LOL
short for No--cal "Speedy Gonzales" Dave
Take out your shader pins before brazing service valves..
Looks like you need a new holesaw Dave!
About 2 jobs ago. Lol
That hole saw bit is trash
#206 thumbs up
When do you need to trap the suction line? Im still learning
When your condensing unit is above the evaporator
You tell em about that big boy pipe
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dave do you normally run the condensing unit 220v and evaporator 120v ?
HELLUVA job Super Dave!! Or Kung Fu Refrigeration Monkey!! Lol 🤘🤘 Great stuff!
Great Job Kung Fu Panda!! Well Done 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
sparks a flying when drilling the line-set hole, must have been some hardened metal panel. if you find it chews the hole-saw bits up too fast grab carbide tooth ones(yeah price premium) and slow the speed down some, instead of a few holes they'll make hundreds ;)
good job
Ok
I lovw when I ask someone if they can bend and swage acr.....the look I get...ugh..no...its splits...LMFAO!!!!
The expansion valve function will be normal when its on its side? I was always told otherwise. Finny I just put 6 of these style coils in..can't stand them. Drains and piping come so low...
We gotta use pvc penetrations. The metal ones ice and bulge in the winter
I noticed You didn't run your suction on a downhill angle towards the condenser like you usually do. I put ptraps only on 12 ft or higher vertical rises. Am I wrong???
@@HVACRDUDE the book says 20’ but 12’ is good. I put them in on most rises just to be safe. Cant hurt.
@@NorCal-refrigeration most definitely just curious Reefer Master!
Dave, piping looks great but man if I see an apprentice out there using your technique to find center on their suction line hole he’s going to get plumbed up. You show a lot of good practices and measuring off the side and back of box to find true center might be some good info to throw in there...
some of us just have a good eye, I can generally eye ball a hole 3' distance away from starting point and come up less than 1/2" skewed.
granted I've been doing various/many construction fields of work since a young brat, electrical, electronics, computers, automotive and more. yes, I have made my share of mistakes and learned the hard way(and still do) Murphy's law has us all the nuts and teetz LOL. it's how you properly deal with, admit to and correct your mistakes, that makes us better humans :)
@@throttlebottle5906 As can Dave apparently, just not good practices for apprentices or recently turned out Journeymen... with reference points so close from side and back of unit it’s laziness not to grab a tape and get it dead on imo. Plumb level and square is priority when I am working on any project...
Just a question why 1/2 liquid that is a huge liquid line 3/8 is over kill i would of used 1/4
Good job Super Dave.working again mama.
Nice..neat..job...Dave...man after my own heart! Very professional
Nice job Dave, I guess the suction trap is enough since there ain’t much of a height difference, didn’t really need to slope suction after box penetration?
How did I not see this video. Great job nor cal. The super tech of super techs
Dave you really don’t have to use the air house Yellow
Jacket does make refrigerant hose 25 '& 50’ or 100’lengths.
I made it for blowing out coils and then went hey, nitro purge
that intro music is total crap............>>>>>> Good job I would of taken shrader valves out while brazing . once bitten twice shy , also did you put sensing bulb up stream or down stream of equaliser ? liked your eye for job neat would be great to hear tech info and why your doing certain things cheers tho nice vid but drop your intro musak jeezus
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@@NorCal-refrigeration yea ho will do take it cool have a good Christmas
4:45 - Since you can safely assume your walls are plumb, you can use a tape measure to pull the exact center off the walls instead of guessing where the center of the pipe is. That way your copper will be plumb in all directions.
15:18 - Any concerns about scraping the inside of the insulation over the end of that unprotected tubing getting into the pipe?
I screw up the insulation all the time because I get ahead of myself and forget to tape off the pipe. Like all the time.
I'm with you on using ridgid copper. Its looks so much better. If ya haven't used the zoom lock tool yet you should give it a try. That thing is so nice. Great video as always .
Great job Brother Dave. Thanks for sharing..stay well
Very nice! If I could only get my techs learned on all the proper techniques in a timely fashion... Very nice!
gopro needed to be adjusted to line of sight .. couldnt see what you were doing
Very neat job Kung Fu Dave , as long as you don't become Kung Flu Dave innit !
Btw , I was told that the bulb has to be " counterflow " to the suction line , meaning that the capillary tube outlet faces the evap , is there any truth in that ? Cheers Dave , very nice 👌.
That’s how I’ve always installed them.
Layout and drill from above, both hanging bolts and pipes. Drill a smaller hole along side suction for liquid line. Takes a little planning and measuring, much better job.
Almost impossible to seal piping pentration with liquid and suction in the same hole, super critical in freezer aplication.
This is not a freezer and at start up I’ll show my tips and tricks to a smooth spray foam job 🤘⚡️🤘
Good work. Your preference for hard pipe ACR tubing rather than soft copper linesets caught my ear. I find it interesting. I also think your way makes the final piping layout look better than lineset piping. The extra step of having to insulate the suction line is worth it. Your work is good.
Thank you.
I once laid some pipe in a walk-in box :))))
I have ran many a feet of that copper back in the day on long run a/c lines that were under ground. Nice job.
Nice professional looking workmanship there Dave.
I don’t think the go pro on the hat worked that well to be honest, I couldn’t see half of what you were doing. Regardless, it was still a great video, thanks Nor-Cal!
I’ll work on pointing it down more. 🤘⚡️🤘
What's the reason for install a P trap at the evaporator ?
Oil return
@@NorCal-refrigeration I see. Thanks man.
Question why do you need a P trap on the gas line ?
Oil return
Thank you
Great video but now I feel less of a man every time I use line set😂
Nice install. I didn’t know you could bend acr.
Do you need to anneal the tubing before bending?
Yes you do. If you noticed, his tubing was discolored at the bends.
Nice work Dave!
Good to see some proper pipe being used!
Turd herder pipe. It looks like the liquid line is touching or wants to touch the aluminum box on the inside where you made the hole. That could be a failure point, ripe for rubout.
its called silicone
How come you didn’t put the evaporator close to the back wall of the box?
It’s a bi flow coil
Nice and straight line set. I like that.
nice job Dave, as always
What is the purpose of a p trap
to help with refrigerant oil return to the condenser/compressor. while the system runs there's always some oil loss via vaporization and misting from the compressor into the system, the trap collects that and allows it to be sent back vertically in slugs or to aerate back into a vapor/mist mixed with the refrigerant gas so it carries back vertical.
I'm NOT a teacher nor engineer, so my explanations may not always be the best :)
@@throttlebottle5906 thank you for taking the time to explain this. I thought it was something to do with oil. Have a great day and merry christmas
👍nice job Dave, neat and tidy as always.
Turd chasers LOL
turbo air ? 🙄👎
I’m just the installer didn’t buy it. Notice no white stuff on roof 🤣😂🤣😂
@@NorCal-refrigeration i know #justsayin 😅
Nice work-brother!
Great install Dave..
Excellent 👍
Nice job Dave 👍
Time for a new hole saw Dave. Lol
Yep
I’m so glad I came across your music! Good work Dave!
The music ? Wow thanks
Looks great
The copper you are using is K type copper which is ACR certified. The plumber type copper is L type.
There’s is not nitrogenized ⚡️⚡️
@@NorCal-refrigeration Plumbers dont need nitrogenized pipes..lol.
@@tarunm4534 correct
Plumber copper is M type. K type copper is just like L type nitrogenized and for refrigeration expect it has a much thicker wall. Have ran lots of K type at Costco's very heavy stuff. You'll also recognize K type because it'll come with an orange plug rather than a white one.
@@adriancervantes19 K type is heavy and in Costco you might have run for glycol system. We ran K Type for VRF system (80 ton system) and depending on the project requirements (client) it can be designed. The Ontario building code says L Type copper minimum is required for plumbing. We have green plug in K type copper and its nitrogenized. I think I saw L Type with orange plug. Depending on local building codes it can vary.
Nice clean job 👍👍👍
🤘🎄🤘
What brand bender are you using on the 7/8 acr
Imperial I have a video on my channel somewhere
@@NorCal-refrigeration thanks didn't know imperial made a 7/8
@@cameroncancilla5160 I’m a terrible RUclipsr I need to post links to tools used and so forth.
Super Dave the Picasso of brazing ... Good vid as always ...
Refrigeration customers cheap as hell ac customer pay 100 times better
So true!
Looking Good ! I’ve seen a few of those turbo air condensing units , Looks identical to a heatcraft unit. Re-Badged heatcraft with a different paint job.
So Nice 💘💘💘💘💘💘