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I thought maybe $50 at the high side, but $200!! I rather lose a bit of freon.
Just wait till China start producing them. These are basically quick connectors that are used in car AC's. I predict you will be able to get them for less then $10.
Unless your gauge is only servicing one refrigerant and you're keeping the gas in the hoses in between connections, you're loosing quite a bit more gas from the system by pressurizing the hoses when you connect them to the system than you are by just attaching the hoses and loosing a little hiss or spritz of liquid, aren't you? Unless you're _really_ slow when you screw the fittings on.
@@WaffleStaffel And since refrigerant loss damaging the ozone layer, and now they say ozone safe refrigerants still need to need replaced because they have to high of a (shit I just had training on it and don't recall what the scam was) we gotta switch again.
I like pepperage farms remember when we purged and pressure tested R-22 systems with R-12 because it was cheaper than nitrogen.
Funny how the OMG R-12 is killing the ozone layer happened when DuPonts patent expired. I also remember then they came for R-22 using the same reasons, so R410A came out. It was said to be ozone friendly, safe for the environment etc.
But here we are again, and R410A is evil, and we must replace it with R454B, its already stated that in 10 or so years we will need to replace R454B....do you see the pattern I see?
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Lots and lots of units where there's not enough room to fit these due to bad engineering from the manufacturer not thinking about the service techs. Price is too much. Obviously the hoses must still fill up with refrigerant. So there may be less squirts upon connecting and disconnecting, there's still refrigerant loss in the gauges and hoses.
That's why I love the fieldpiece probes and tees and backseat control valves. Incredibly small amount of refrigerant loss when connecting/disconnecting
Not to mention if you leave the hoses pressurized then hang your manifold in the truck on a hot day your gauges could blow a spring with the increased pressure. Don’t ask me how I know.
You could always give proper procedures a try and have virtually little to no refrigerant in your hoses when finished, give it a try.
@@davidlundy5007 That would be a lesson learned. Just don’t do that. Simple.
$200.00 that’s stupid waste of money.
Yeah but throwing down $1000 for digital gauges isn’t, 😂
Speak for yourself. Stupid to you but not to others.
@TheCherokeeKidd well, they are supposed to be very accurate and all that jazz..
So basically these are higher quality of these $9 ones?
"Flexzion Car AC R134a Quick Connectors System Port Adapters Couplers Low High Set Conversion Kit for HVAC Auto Air conditioning with Manifold Hose Gauge"
@@TheCherokeeKiddtrue that
I have quick disconnects on my manifold hoses I've had for 30 years. A two piece connector. Similar principle, different design.
Ant chance we can get the brand name?
Did yours cost $200? LOL
@@jims.3987 Can't remember that from that long ago. But I'm fairly certain it wasn't!! LoL
IMPERIAL QUICK COUPLER $20.00 AND $30.00 FOR 90 DEGREE ONE. I HAVE USED THESE FOR YEARS.
Links please .
@@3markaw Do a google search...easy to find.
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yeah link. these cost a lot
Yeah, link?
That price, ouch. Just get some Yellow Jacket 45 degrees low loss fittings. Lower profile and work great.
Exactly, these are not revolutionary, and he is only making this video for the kickback he gets, I doubt he actually prefers them in the real world.
For $220? No way Jose.
Looks like somthing a young kid would waist money on 200 bucks for somthing that will fit maby 60 percent of units I work on might suggest good pair of gloves for 20 bucks
True. There are a lot of units you could get one of these on and not the other. Im about to upgrade and get the job link setup. Those wireless/hoseless ones barely release any refrigerant. But, like these, they just can't be used sometimes.
When I was a kid we lived next door to a dairy. (Back when our town still had milkmen.) The father of one of my schoolmates was one of the drivers. He showed me how they recharged the ammonia refrigerant in their trucks by hooking them up to a big tank with a hose with a fitting like that, but bigger.
WAY too expensive for what it is.
Insane.
Giant fittings…
Crazy expensive…
ANY of the tool manufacturers low loss fittings are better, and rebuildable…
$200 is more than many gauges themselves.
Yeah but if you do hvac full time you aint buying no 200 gauges
@@jeffreys1554 have you seen the Navac analog gauges? Plus that logic doesn't undo overpricing.
@@realSamAndrew ok poor guy who doesn't take his trade/work seriously.
@@jeffreys1554 you love the name calling and personal attacks. Good luck with that.
@@realSamAndrew go cry apprentice
very cool but at this price your typical DIY'er might be priced out of these.
Show me how they work in the most common scenario. Make sure it's hot AF outside, have the system running and in the same continuous video frame, show me the loss using the conventional hose connectors and then with these unique adapters. And are the orings unique in size to the adapters, thereby marrying me to this company for a $50 bag of $2.00 orings every few months?
they are dam near impossible to get on when the pressure is high, hot day etc. Even on the low side.
😂😂😂😂
Hold my beer and give me damn hoses son. Gotta toughen them hands up 10 plus years hooking gauges up everyday.
I’ve seen those safety gloves get frozen into someone’s hand do not use!!!
I thought like $50 for both max.. but $320 ?! Fuck that ! 😀
Brother I love it, but there’s some units their not going to work on because their so long and the idiot way they designed some of the old units. I love it though and would buy it.
They are too big and too bulky they will not even fit on 2/3 of the units big waste of time big waste of money would never buy
While I appreciate new tech....this is a waste of $200. You can just buy flow control valves for $20. (C&D CD5050).
While you are right the fact is the c&d valves still release a spay when disconnecting, about the same amount as low loss hoses, this is the why the $200 connectors were born… they eliminate that loss as small as it may be… to each their own 🤠
And the new ref is ganna make all this not work
C&d valves suck bit of mine went out within a month
Come on man why are you trying rain on our parade I have spent 200 bucks on all kinds of dumb stuff smoking drugs women with no scruples these fittings won’t let you down but the other things I mentioned will .
I have a valve very similar to the 5050 that’s part of a hand pump I use to set pressure on the air shocks of my mountain bike. Once that valve is closed, anything that gets out after is from the hose (not the shock), not the system so any refrigerant that comes out will be in the tools hose no matter what.
These are dumb, just get low-loss fittings.
To each their own
For 220.00 bucks, keep it. I have been doing it so long it’s never a problem.
You've been doing it so long and can't afford 220? Lol are you the help still?
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Wait for the chinese knockoffs at Harbor Freight.
Yea. 220 is ridiculous. Regular low low fitting are good enough. Young guns always trying to reinvent the wheel. 😢.
Good idea, I’m thinking $79 for the pair
Imperial has been making something even more simple for years.
Really? Share the info. link. Thanks.
@@dporrasxtremeLS3 Another lazy person. Do a search for "Imperial Quick Couplers"
@@dporrasxtremeLS3 I can’t get the link to attach. Do an online search for Imperial-Eastman Kwik-coupler.
@@dporrasxtremeLS3 BRO. Go F'ing look it up. You obviously have the internet, or are you severely disabled you can't go type in imperial quick connect into the google and find the shit yourself? How did you manage to stay alive all these years?
$200 gets you nice coilovers set for a civic/crx
Nice is a strong word bruh.
Solowerks maybe. LOL
And who even talks about CRX's. You are OLD.... hahaha
Like them but I won't spend that much money on a tool like that. Thanks though..
price price price enough said
Yes everyone should see if they can afford things before purchasing. America really has a problem with this, so thanks for the reminder haha
I don't think the guy is saying that he can't afford it I think he's saying it's too much for what you're getting there is a big difference there buddy ... I do think you make good videos though @@diyhvacguy
Looks like a quick way to connect if you've looking to shave seconds off a job hah! They are pretty clunky though and not every system will have the clearance. I like to use gas retention valve/ core depressor with a T for limiting refrigerant loss. Smart probe on one, and other open for whatever be it charging, micron gauge, etc.
very cool fittings Thanks
a good experienced technician dont need this garbage
I’ve been waiting on something like this. Hopefully they’ll be less expensive in the near future.
Equal or better options have existed for way less money for 30+ years.
Link pls
You've just been watching youtube videos waiting to find out about new inventions that have been around for 40 years?
You need to get the F off your phone bro.... Just walk away
As far as limiting refrigerant loss, I don't think anything works better than a thumb screw core depressor.
Currently Unavailable and $220 bucks. Yikes! The FF or frostbite factor is more of what I am concerned about! Wear good gloves to disconnect.
WHOA--at $219 for the 90 degree set (they're out of the straight ones) a strong pass, unless I was in the HVAC repair business
This is what happens when a great idea meets greedy people. No way they are worth $220. I would rather lose a spirt of refrigerant with my wireless gauges than buy that trash.
This is what happens when a great idea meets greedy people. No way they are worth $220. I would rather lose a spirt of refrigerant with my wireless gauges than buy that trash.
Those are really neat, but WOW are they proud of them!!!! $219 for the 90* ones (straight are unavailable).
First time seeing those connectors. Will have to try them out. They look like a game-changer!
I see you using these for this season but I’ll bet they’ll be tucked away in the “regrets” drawer by next season.
We will see
@@diyhvacguy the reason I say this is when I saw how the adapter connects to the hose “dock”, it makes it stick out very far and if anything presses down on it, the thing is gonna snap. I don’t have to connect hoses all day like a lot of techs so this might be great for you, but not for me. I’ll thread my fittings thank you.
Nice, but won’t fit on a lot of units that has great design, sometimes u struggle to attach regular guage tip lol
LOVE ALL OF YOUR ADVICE. THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where have you been. Automotive techs have been using quick connects on ac recovery machines for over 20 years.
Am I in the automotive business? I think you know the answer 😅
I doubt that.
Can you show me the corner of that circle that you started in? 😂
A corner of a circle. a secret place
Amazing that these are just coming out now, I always wondered why we didn't have snap fittings like this.
totally not worth the price. I use the isolation valves that are quarter turn and they were only like 30 a pop. Also it looks like its only for 1/4 fittings or does it work the 5/16 as well? In certain situations they look like they would be too bulky to use from my experience.
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just as recent as last week, r410a cost me $236 per 25lb jug. To think i would spend $200 for each set (straight and 90 degree) of these, is ludicrous to save a couple of squirts of refrigerant(especially, when the EPA said that a small amount of refrigerant loss is acceptable when connect and disconnect hoses). This is for the new techs only. As for seasoned HVAC+R techs, if you have been doing HVAC for a while, you know that there are, at least. three cheaper more effective ways to minimize refrigerant loss, than even the low loss fittings.
Lol well at least with these fancy quick connects the pressure wont blow your skirt up anymore. These new techs these days cant do anything without gloves and are just babies anymore. Been a HVACR tech my whole career and sure I got refrigerant burns sometimes but it healed up and went on about my business !!! My motto was safety is for sissies lol but of course I grew up when men were men !!!!
Cool story
CPS safemate hoses are far cheaper and work great
APPION 'Core Control Tool' is way better tool. If a core doesn't close you will pay lell to get controll of it again with a CCT close it and get a hose on it easily. CCT right angle almost always makes connections easier straighton connections almost never work well. CCT can fully depress those 'coremax' valves. CCT works well in tight spaces.
too high of a price no thanks
What lube can be used on O Ring to keep them from tearing? I normally use food grad silicone. Very nice fittings. Sure as time goes, someone will make cheaper or similar product. Enjoy your channel, you KISS
You don't need even low loss fittings. If you're getting blow back you need to adjust the schrader depressor using a schrader removal tool/needlenose... I have 0 blowback or issues using standard fittings.
Hear me out, just buy two CPC or whatever the brand and get screw type valve depressor with a hose connector. Then use a Bluetooth probe. It’s really simple and quick.
Not sure I'd want to store my lines and gauge set pressurized. Kinda like a torque wrench, always move it back to zero. I think wireless gauges would be better, very little loss. These built into the wireless gauge would be best.
Those fitting are going to tear up the threads on the schreader valves especially when disconnecting under 500psi of pressure the push-off when 98% un-latch will be incredibly shreading on the threads
What about the injection of air? I'm not jumping on you. I'm just curious. How can you bleed out that air that exists within the chamber. I appreciate your time making this video.
Good luck getting those on a Goodman system
May be a good investment with the new "reverse thread" systems coming out. Wont need to be buying adaptors or new hoses just for those.
Or, spend $20 for some charging valves… Basically, you attach the valve and then turn the screw to depress the Schrader… I use these and there is just too much variance is fittings and it allows you control over when the Schrader gets depressed…
Or you can use low loss fititngs, but they are getting mildly pricy. I use $12 c&d core depressors. Very simple. And a little bit more cost effective
I still hear a spurt when disconnecting... the same kind of spurt when you disconnect the normal hose quickly. almost seems like the Schrader valve is going to let about the same amount out regardless of method so save your $200, unless your an idiot that untwists the traditional hose slowly
Sometimes you can only spin it slowly due to the position. 🤷🏻♂️
Ya, hell no! One, it's going to be much harder getting into tight places and second, way too expensive ! Just get yourself a good set of low loss hoses. 😂
Nothing like watching a good paid advertisement about an overpriced useless new invention that has been around for 50 years.
Great way to shat up your channel dude.
I use hoses with valves and loose very little refrigerant by closing the valve then keeping pressure on the rubber gasket until there is enough space to no longer depress the schraeder valve. Waste of money but obviously your ad worked they are sold out on Amazon.
Yeah, when the o ring breaks you find out by refrigerant spraying all over you...be a man and just do it fast😂😂😂
Wait for some time while Chinese folks find this and made as they own brand. Pretty sure this gadgets will costs 5 time cheaper. 🙃
Wierd. I click subscribe and it just clicks... nothing happens... is there a limit to ho many i can subscribe to?
It seems convenient. I would not change over to prevent refrigerant burns. I would do it for the convenience of
Not having to twist on and off traditional fittings. It gets tedious after years in the trade
Those fitting are to large in lots of situation. I used low loss fitting and they worked good. The best solution I found was to use a regular fitting with the hand operated shot off valve about 5 inches back on the hose so the refer loss is hardly nothing
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Well that’s stupid. You still have Refrigerant in those hoses. 🤦🏻♂️
Imperial part number 16C and 17C. Available from Zoro tools or Amazon.
How do you pull/replace Schraders with these in place 🤷♂️🤦♂️
The only thing with these is they sometimes don't fit in very tight areas especially when doing commercial refrigeration
This is really good thing bro but I still lose some refrigerant left in the hoses. I try to return as much as possible by letting it go through the suction line but still some of it is always left in them. I guess it’s just a diminimus amount and you just can’t avoid it.
How? do you have valves at the end of your hoses?
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That connection looks amazing! I like to hear the sound when the quick coupler connecting to the valves. 😊
No one needs expensive digital gauges, not even professionals. It's grade school math to calculate superheat and sub cooling.
They say unavailable when you click the link… damn lol
Wow, i never realised how many snowflakes are coming up. Were fkn doomed honestly
Bro valve core depressors are 15 bucks. Been around for a while. Get yourself some 😂
What is it with you people you are always trying to make things sound more difficult than what they really are
I think I’ll just use a pair of gloves and goggles. About 20 bucks or less.
If you’re getting a refrigerant burn from a low loss fitting, it’s either bad gaskets/rings or user error…
It doesn't matter what the cost is, two days after the video release and they are no longer available on Amazon.
You must be buying cheap low loss fitting.
Will those things go to 500 psi.
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$350 for these! No chance I'd spend that. Most is $20.
You're looking at around 3 oz of refrigerant per hose loss every time you connect a manifold set with standard length hoses. Do that enough times and you ARE the leak. Yes, you could disconnect the high-side and pump the gauges down but you're looking at possible contaminants or a non-condensable unless you bled your manifold first. Anytime you open a system to check pressures there is going to be a loss, the idea is to limit that as much as possible. When I got to the point, I needed to check super-heat or sub-cooling I had over the years, built multiple sets consisting of only of high and low side gauges dependent on the equipment connected directly to a low loss access fitting. A simple Cooper electronic thermometer with decent set of clamp-on probes will with those gauges tell you everything you need to know and the refrigerant loss is much less than with a manifold even if it's properly bled and pumped down. Here is where I piss a lot of people off, why did you open that system to install a manifold in the first place? If you've got a good TD, compressor amps are in a narrow range of 80% FLA , you KNOW the coils are clean and airflow correct and there are no odd noises or vibrations what are you looking for? TD will point you toward airflow, capacity or refrigerant, compressor amps will point you to refrigerant, or an electrical/mechanical issue. Unless something is pointing you in that direction why are you opening a system?
I’m only a home owner diy wannabe ac tech
(I try my best to fix things)
but I think your comment might be of obvious brilliance.
Thanks.
Spot on!
WHY IS THIS SO HARD FOR SO MANY TO UNDERSTAND?
I have tried to drill this into younger techs for 30 years, sometimes with effect but mostly not. I still battle it and the techs say they do it because the home owner expects it. Which tell me I need to get them trained in explaining why they don't need to hook up unless their is an issue, they can gather all the info needed if their isn't an issue without hooking up.
Sometimes I am told they do it because the customer expects it, thus more training is needed so the can educate the costumer on why and when to hook up or not.
@@ZERO-F2G- I think that's the way they are trained in many of the technical schools these days. The biggest problem is I've seen so many that all they did was hook up a set of gauges not realizing that is only one of the tools you can use.
Another problem I've seen are kids coming from technical schools that cannot calculate super-heat or sub-cooling unless they have a electronic manifold that tells them what it is. That indicates to me they really don't understand the concept and are just doing what they've been instructed to do.
It also means when they run into their first "problem child" they are going to be stuck and have no idea what to do next. The smart ones, who realize they don't know everything and there is always something new to learn will ask for help from the manufacturer or a more experienced tech. The others are just another call back waiting to happen.
Experience will eventually level the playing field. We all run into something we've never seen for the first time. It's how we handle and work through it that makes the difference.
Couldn't agree more!! Hooking up gauges is a last resort!! I just got hired at a company. I've been in the field several years. They told me I had to check pressures on every maintenance. I said "nope! Not doing that" if you are a decent technician, you will understand why hooking up gauges should be done only when you have no other option. You can check the charge using other methods; check the outdoor ambient temperature and compare it to the temperature coming out of the top of the condenser. Use a temp clamp and check the temperature of the line set. Check DT... Sooooo many things you can check before having to hook up gauges.
Audience, connectors seem great to have in your arson, but the price tag is hefty.
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To all of the many commenters asking for links to the alternatives, just stop. A quick search using keywords like "Imperial" or "Hvac quick disconnect" gets the results faster than it takes to comment asking for links. Second: *RUclips does NOT ALLOW OTHER THAN YT VIDEO LINKS IN COMMENTS.*
Wait... wireless clamps on The sman?????
It’s not my refrigerant so rather lose some, wonder how much money he got for this lie of a video
Well, apparently it sucks to connect them. You had to edit the video.
one thing i have learned about this channel is its from bizarro world
Guys never heard of a core depressor they’re like 20 bucks 😂
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Sorry, this is not a game changer. This is a sales-tech pitch. No Sale.
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