1929 willys-knight model 66A, sleeve valve engine
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Today On what it’s like I really wanted to do an anniversary edition beings today is our two year anniversary of doing this we started this channel 2 years ago September 21, 2021.. And I wanted to cover my truck for the episode but as fate would have it that you joints went bad and it’s currently in the shop but once I get it back we are going to cover that extensively we’re going to do a three-year review and all of it for today
We are featuring a really cool car that you probably never heard of.. With a really unique Power plant sleeve valve engine.
Tons of information in this episode as well as advertisement pieces specs this might be one of the best ones to date let me know what you guys think in the comment section below at the end people been asking to see more cabinets.. So that is what is random today be sure to stick around for would you rather as well as name that tune enjoy this episode
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stab in the dark: Moody Blues, Knights in White Satin, but I doubt it.
Yeah buddy congratulations you got it I don’t know why this one did not premiere I must’ve not hit the box put a swore I did just trying to make the 430 deadline I didn’t think we’re gonna make it today..
Be sure to tune in tomorrow hopefully tomorrow it might be Saturday for a 1967 Rambler marlin super rare it’s the only one I’ve ever seen in the wild.
Well done 👏👏👏
Awesome !
A song I love to sing at karaoke night. Listen closely to the notes sung during the crescendo and you’ll notice that Eddie V and Stone used the same notes in the crescendo of Black by Pearl Jam.
Never heard of the Sleeve Valve before...WOW! WYR, Willys sleeve valve all the way, but my wife like the Studebaker too.
Wish we could have heard the sleeve valve running!
Me too I should’ve asked him to start it I don’t like putting people out or on the spot I kind of put them on the spot with the explanation but he did such a good job explaining it that was the second time he explained it for me I walked out day before and I couldn’t get my camera out fast enough and I asked him hey could you explain that again but this was a day later..
I have the role of it driving by very quiet I will put that in the next video that’s at the Greenfield Village it won’t be the next video on the channel I think the next video on the channel is gonna be the 67 Rambler Marlin Which is a super rare car I’ve only seen this one ever in the wild
WOW INCREDIBLE STUNNING 1929 WILLYS-KNIGHT 66A-THANKS J--WOW-AWESOME INFORMATIVE VIDEO
Glad you dig this episode
Whippet is the next one hopefully tonight
See the Bristol and Napier aero engines of WW2 for more sleeve valve engine info. The main trouble with sleeve valves was the tight clearances required between the piston sleeve and the valve sleeve. If they were not tight enough they let a lot of oil into the combustion chamber and the clearances varied with engine temperature which made it hard to keep them within the required tolerance.
I think that’s a design that needs to make a come back I mean think about it all the Honda and Toyota engines have really tight clearances engines
Thank you so much for sharing all that information I really appreciate it =)
We won't see the sleeve valve engine return Jay. There's too much reciprocating mass and too much friction for high rpm to be achieved. Sleeve valves were conceived in the first place to allow for a good combustion chamber shape, and to eliminate exhaust valves, which were unreliable, and also provided a hot spot in the combustion chamber which could cause pre-ignition, and thus limited compression ratio. But modern metallurgy and design has gotten over these issues.
@@captaccordion 100%. Although the Bristol sleeve valve aero engines of the WW2 era were impressive and had a great power to weight ratio, the oil use remained a problem. The advent of sodium-cooled poppet valves really spelled the end for sleeve valves as a mass production technology. Andy
One reason sleeve valves are advantages in aero engines is poppet valves run into flow problems above a certain bore size. This especially applies to radials
Hi Jay. Nice to see a car that's been restored but shows all the evidence of very regular use. A shame we didn't hear it run, but you can't have everything. A big minus of sleeve valve cars of this era (double sleeve) was that they used a lot of oil and were smoky. But development of sleeve valves went on, and later engines used a single sleeve which rotated as well as reciprocated. Check out the Napier Sabre and Bristol Hercules aero engines. The Overland name was last used on a car in 1926 apart from a brief return in 1939 when the Willys car also carried Overland badges. Cheers.
The owner was actually saying that he’s a bit embarrassed to show the engine because he drives this one the most I think he has seven willys knights and he said this is the driver, I told him I’d rather see them in driver shape because that means you use it and it’s not a trailer queen.. I love when people use these cars and a firm believer if you trailer your car to shows your doing it wrong (1900-1930?) can see because some of those cars only go 45/50 but 50s cars
Glad you dig this one =)
1929 Willys Knight too unique to pass by. Love the cabinet has a nice farmhouse look
Falcon night and whippet are also in the pipeline..
Next up is going to be 1967 AMC Marlin for Saturday I got half of it wrote I don’t have enough time to finish it today I got a lot going on lol =)
29 Willis
29 Studebaker
That dash is beautiful. The woodgrain contrasted with the bright work is elegant. Very stylish and roomy interior. Lots of storage too. Surprising for that era. Very cool and unusual engine.
These are just different and cool
Great choices =)
Jay, funny you should mention the club community. Long before the interweb, it’s all we had. That, and Hemmings and Old Cars Weekly. As a kid in the late 1970s, my dad and I got into old 1929-32 Chevys. We were in Minnesota and got to know vintage Chevy club members in SoCal. In California, cars had been stripped of engine, trim and interior parts…due to the street rod craze of the 50’s and 60’s. These parts were out in Minnesota in wrecking yards (what we called them, before the term “dismantlers”) and I spent many winter days with my dad, out in fields taking parts off old wrecks. We would then go to SoCal in the spring and trade these parts for rust free body parts, not found in the Midwest, to use on our old, rusty cars.
Good times.
Thank you so much for sharing those memories =)
I remember looking through junk yards for parts last year I went to a few junk yards looking for rims for me 52 and they don’t even let people in the yards anymore because of insurance liability and I looked at the guy and I was like are you effing serious.. that’s the world we live in no one wants to take responsibility for own actions
@@What.its.like. You got that right Jay! I used to love perusing junkyards just for entertainment. I didn't realize it was no longer permitted, but all things as they are now, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Glad I'm old enough to remember how things used to be before our society became so litigious and went to hell!
I live in the country there’s a few out here that still allow you to go and take parts off of cars but it really pissed me off.. The one guy I asked I had to ask the guy at the booth and he just looked over there and he’s like yeah we probably have that but I’m not gonna go out there and look for it can I go out there and look for it no... it’s like that every time I go into Lowe’s and Home Depot everybody’s on their cell phone and nobody wants to do anything
One time I went into Lowe’s I know how to use a glass cutter cause I have one but mine doesn’t work on big pieces the bigger the pieces the more off it will be at its old and needs adjusted. I walked around for 10 minutes looking for somebody that I got that I didn’t find anybody so I just like I guess it’s self service you should’ve seen everybody hey can you help me with this and I’m like I don’t work here haha the looks were priceless.. if I knew the code to the side I would just help myself with that too because finding somebody to do anything it’s just really hard. Work ethic is pretty much nonexistent and it really bothers me.
@@What.its.like. Jay, for a Millennial, you're cranky like the rest of us!
Welcome to the Gen Xers...
Thank you for FINALLY clearing up the CORRECT pronunciation of "Willys", just like "Phyllis" and "Gillis". I've been pretty much alone akong people who had no experience or knowledge of archaic English spelling.
Yeah I was tired of getting corrected over that one I’ll be the first to say I’m not perfect and suck at pronunciations.. but that one is right lol =)
Probably the most famous Willys in terms of 'design' (that is being fashionable, rahter than iconic - i.e. the Jeep - which is really an American Bantam design but that's another story) the Plaidside, which was indeed a 66B. Simple trick, but totally distinctive.
We covered the American bantam story I don’t think John Willys was part of the company at that point because he gave credit to everybody the new organization didn’t wanna give any credit to Bantam and for years they tried to hide it that they were the ones that came up with the jeep..
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Wow. Looks like a well made car. Auburn and Hudson for me.
Great choices I just realized I didn’t put the Hudson in the picture I put the hupmobile in it I was trying to meet the deadline I didn’t think it was going to happen that was my fault I made two mistakes today that was one of them the second one I didn’t click the box for instant premier
Awesome headlights etc.
Absolutely love the armoire Jay! Beautiful work!!!!
I’m a furniture freak myself. I buy everything forever.
Thank you I’ll show more I’m make a custom Cabinet as well as a 6 foot tall one
I was in the Ford Museum a few days before the Greenfield Village show. I hope you got to see the Museum, it is Trains, Planes and Automobiles and more. For sure worth the time. I wish I had the time to see the Greenfield Village car show.
The original Toledo Willys, later Jeep plant site is just off I-75, all of the 'old' factory demolished but for 1 small building and a marked smokestack remaining. Part of the site is a newer structure used by Dana Corp. for making drive train parts including for Jeep. The 'new' plant is a few miles north on the other side of I-75.
Unfortunately I wanted to go to the Henry Ford Museum the bracelet got you into both the Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford unfortunately I didn’t have enough time I didn’t have enough time to see everything in the village I didn’t go in all the buildings I did get to see all the cars that I wanted to see but I did not get to shoot all of the cars that I wanted to feature on the channel I really wanted to do a Stanley.. I got some incredible B roll for the Stanley but our schedules never lined up I’m gonna try to do one in Hershey
Thanks again, nice cabinets.
Thank you glad you dig this episode I love the hornet icon you use for your logo that’s really cool =)
Auburn looks Cool,Stubebaker
Sweet choices =)
Hi Jay!: Another great episode on a nearly forgotten and INTERESTING car! I really like all the parts of the car that looked like a knight's shield! Head lights, bumper trim, stop light, etc. Makes me wonder if the cowl lights were an aftermarket add-on. You would think the factory supplied ones would have been the same design as the headlights. Was always fascinated by the engine in these! Evidently was too expensive to produce profitably. Especially during the depression! Still a very neat car! Quite plush and comfortable looking inside! I like that it still had the hand throttle on the steering wheel. Sort of an early version of a cruise control! Put her in high gear, and set the throttle at the speed you want to go and if the road is relatively flat, you're good to go. If you came up on a hill and wanted to maintain speed you can reach up to the steering wheel and advance the throttle a little and then decrease at the top of the grade! NEAT! Driving, I think, was a lot more fun when you had more controls to work, helped you keep focus on your driving!! WYR#1 was going to go Auburn until you showed the Hupmobile! I always liked that particular design! #2 Studebaker 8!
Great choices very interesting points. It’s crazy how many of these they made and yet this is the first one I saw all year.
I wish I would’ve asked for a ride he probably would’ve given me one but I don’t like putting people out or on the spot I hopefully will get to do more in the future
Nice carpentry! Very creative eye.
Thank you glad you dig =)
Originally from Toledo - I have to go with the Willys Knight for both. As an aside - my grandfather owned a Whippet. At the time, an interesting car. Very light, with a six cylinder engine made the performance quite good. He was Foreman of the Roundhouse for a railroad. Understanding mechanical things, he created an exhaust cutout for the car, and made some other mods as well. Truly, an early “hot rodder”, all while being a married man with 4 kids!
That’s awesome I didn’t know you were from Toledo that’s a really cool city I’ve never been downtown but when I drive past it to go to Michigan I’m always just blown away by the city skyline.
Haha love exhaust cutouts
Thank you so much for sharing those awesome memories really appreciate it =)
3 Knights were on display for free a month ago here in Toledo... didn't realize that slide valve engine design also came as a V8! We have a 1926 Whippet pickup we're putting together...
Any relation to Penny Dalton?
I've heard sleeve valve engines gained a reputation for being "oil burners," but they remained smooth, reliable ones.
I’ve heard the same
How could you fail to mention that jazzy hood ornament? A jousting knight!
Yep, I admired that hood ornament too, and was a little surprised he didn't comment. Also noticed the 3 things under each headlight and wondered what they were. Amazing attention to detail on this car, especially since it wasn't really a premium car.
For WYR I'll pick the Willys-Knight for both scenarios...largely because now I know what this car is like thanks to this video and I'm not familiar with the others. Admittedly I have a LOT to learn about cars from the 1920s and earlier.
I like the plushness of the upholstery. And we know that had to be real wood in there.
Nice cabinet at the end there...very rustic looking. I don't think there are too many people out there who can still build cabinets....sort of a dying art form.
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Awesome
In the one video I said my car knowledge Dissipates before 1930 their are so many cool cars from that period with different stories willys had a lot of different brands overlapping and changed names a lot lol
The interior was awesome it was soft the keyed lights were interesting
People still build stuff but some mostly high end my stuff is priced at ikea prices but made of real wood I’m going to have to raise price again I’ve built a cabinet every day this week and idk money is gone from building more cabinets with tells me not changing enough to very thing else has gone up so it sucks..
I’m working on a custom I might show it hoping to have that one today
Wow! The detail and craftsmanship inside and out is incredible! WYR: 1. Being a native Hoosier, I have to go with the Auburn, 2. Studebaker for the same reason! Enjoyed you sharing a bit of your own craftsmanship with the cabinet. Very nice! BTW: It's Willeez not Willis! Ha! Kidding, you were right, just thought I would stir the pot a little! Congrats on your anniversary Dude!
Yeah for sure people get so bent out of shape about pronunciations I get it a lot in the comment section and I just wanted to make a point
I don’t know what’s up with all the advertisements I’m gonna have to get to PC and figure that out because it really bothered me that’s why I premier these it’s for a number of reasons it’s to give everybody a chance that name that tune there’s new advertisements for first early birds. And I like to be present it’s a community that I’m very much a part of. I don’t know why it wasn’t like that today I must’ve forgot to hit the box or something
Great choices I would love to cover an Auburn before the year is over and it doesn’t have to be the speedster it could be anything they made some incredible cars outside the speedster but the speedster is the only one that people remember. =)
I would love to hear one of these engines running. My parental grandfather always said they were the, "Whistling Six." I guess that has to do with the sliding sleeve valves.
I should’ve asked if I could hear it Ron he probably would’ve fired it up
I would love to feature more of these the next one we do I’ll make sure that we can hear it run.
Another great episode, Jay! I'm so glad you really got to review a lot of the cars from the Greenfield Village Show.
It’s not even fair to call that a show it’s an experience you guys even haven’t seen half of them yet I don’t think I think I shot 20 cars there at least I went to an AMC show over last weekend and shop for cars one of them you’ve already seen there’s three more in the pipeline from that I’m trying to space the prewar stuff out a little bit. But I really need to cover all of it before I go to Hershey because if I don’t it might sit in the pipeline forever I’ve had cases like that like I have a 65 Pontiac Catalina that belongs to a really good friend of mine that I shot probably three months ago or close to it
Did you hear the engine running? It is amazing. Bristol made aero engines in WWII that were also sleeve valve. Hearing a four-engine bomber with four of these running at the same time is wild.
Unfortunately I did not hear this engine run the car did drive past me once the next episode that we do from the Greenfield Village I will include the sound that it made as it drove by I cut the sound out for some reason it was very quiet whisper
I’m hoping that this isn’t the only one we feature I will definitely see if we can start the next one I don’t like putting anybody out or on the spot and I kind of did that at the show it seemed.. The owner was super cool though like I said he’s a huge knight enthusiast I hope we could do more cars in the future
@@What.its.like. When he was showing the model of the sleeve valves, I thought sure that the next scene would be hearing and seeing the engine at work. I hope you'll get to hear one at a car show or aircraft show - the sound is really unique up close. No worries, though - you do a terrific job of getting cooperation from the owners; I think they can see and hear your enthusiasm. Really glad that the interest we "geezers" have for vintage and classic cars is in the hands of people like you. Your videos are "can't miss TV" for me. Andy
Thank you so much it means the world to me we really need to get more people in the Classic Car hobby that’s why I decided that I was going to do some appliances and I will explain the differences when we get to that point specially the driving portion I’ll be able to drive those cars hopefully.
I think a lot has to do with kids wasn’t allowed to be around a lot of this stuff so they just went off and did something else but there’s a huge disconnect in modern cars. I’m trying to think of a better analogy. With antiquecars you are very much a part of the experience every time you make a gearshift you feel it every time you push the brakes you can fuel everything happening modern car you don’t feel any of it. And there’s positives and negatives to that just like everything else in life I have a Toyota Prius that I drive long distance in and I absolutely love it if you’re a car enthusiast you’re not supposed to love that car I think a lot of people don’t like it because they don’t know how to use it.. I reached the Mazda speed three the other day and kicked his ass and he couldn’t believe it he’s like what is in that thing because it’s not a Prius engine. I told him that people just don’t know how to drive it I said if you figured out how to drive this car it turns into something it’s not allowed to be frankly. But with that said I would much rather drive my truck because I am one with it I know exactly what’s going on it communicates things the Prius doesn’t communicate. If the Prius breaks down on the side of the road nobody will stop and help I have run out of gas I have broke down on the side of the road in my truck everybody stops it’s insane it’s like going back to a different time period, and I think that’s why I like Classic Car so much every single Classic Car has been that experience I’m going to do an episode on what it is like the owner Classic Car because there’s so many misconceptions.
Glad you dig the channel man =) J
Nice cabinets!
Thank you I just took another one to Pittsburgh yesterday stained aged barrel I might make a short video of cabinet work that one one 6 foot tall and it fit in the Prius
Nice. Keep em coming.
=) you bet
Thanks for this video. It made me pick up my 1929 'Official Handbook of Automobiles'. Sure enough, they listed 4 different Willis-Knight models (WK Six Coupe, WK Six Sedan, WK Great Six Coupe, WK Great Six Sedan) - all with the aforementioned sleeve valves. The book also lists 4 Whippet models (2 with 4 cyl and 2 with 6 cyl engines) that have conventional valve engines.
They had so many models I think the Great six only came in two-door coupe and four-door sedan but I couldn’t narrow it down to just that so I didn’t wanna be wrong so I left the body styles off of it but I showed the advertisement piece with both of those bodies but I also found multiple body styles with other advertisement pieces it’s super confusing.. I thought Packard had a confusing way of doing their models I never saw anything quite like it.
Thank you so much for sharing all that information I really appreciate it
Hupmobile has a great interior very ornate ☺️. Auburn ran great ...
Willy's had a slight puff of oil smoke put it did run pretty reliable 🤔 ...my Uncle had a Whippet coupe a wild two tone green 🤢..... Great Episode 🤠✌️
Glad you did this episode it’s one of my favorites I said that about all the ones from the Greenfield Village I can’t wait to do the Chandler there is so many from the pile though and they’re all great cars and it’s just hard to figure out what comes next I don’t think you guys have seen half of them yet..
Great choices as well
1929 huppmobile enjoyed your work keep it up
Awesome choice glad you dig this episode =)
I'm liking the pedestrian friendly hood ornament
Right
It was a different time people didn’t walk out in front of cars, like they do now
What a comprehensive report ! I am blown away by the quality of this vehicle and its relatively modest price when new!
Thanks for showing your cabinetry work! You re a hard working guy, and that is what bring a real man is all about. 👍
I’m glad you dig this episode I really like this episode I love when we can dive in deep with history I’m a history buff if you can’t tell =)
Thank you so much for the comment I really appreciate that I work hard I worked my ass off but it’s all totally worth it I sometimes I have a hard time switching between the two I’m so hungry for RUclips for the car stuff the Cabinet stuff has kind of taken a back burner backseat so to speak because it’s just so expensive to build anything anymore.. in the summertime not this summertime but couple summers ago I would build for those pantry cabinets in one day I saw everything on Facebook marketplace I just do this as a hobby self-taught.. besides taking four years of shop question coming from A I’m a third generation woodworker but we’ve all done different things like my parents didn’t build furniture they made crafts wood yard decoration in my grandpa made like wooden toys. I remember my dad telling my mom that he didn’t build furniture because my mom wanted something built I tell my wife I’m not a carpenter carpenters to trim and staircases... lol
It's Will-eez in this house.
Its only a matter of time before the Lunatics start coming for this hobby. Protect it at all costs.
Totally agree that’s why this channel exists to keep the information out there for anyone who wants it
Thanks for showing the Willys history, the sleeve valve engine and the correct pronunciation of the name sounds like "willis'. Headlights are ornate like the old Checker cars and Studebakers of the era. That is a well styled car, and color coordinated interior. First pick 1929 Auburn 2nd the 1929 Willys-knight.
Nice unique style of cabinets you build the blue is a good color.
That’s my favorite color it’s like a teal it doesn’t take pictures well that color looks incredible in person and I get it peeled paint isn’t for everybody but that’s the style that I like.
This is one of my favorite episodes I’ve been saying that with all of the episodes that came from the Greenfield Village just so much history and I’m a history guy there’s a lot more to come like we’ve done a 23 Chandler there’s a whippet in the pipeline as well as a falcon night I don’t think I covered half of the cars that I shot that day I’m just trying to separate it so it’s not all prewar stuff at one time because those cars are harder to re-search and just wanna make sure that I present the information the best that I can
@@What.its.like. Yea blue and green is my favorite colors, that's why this Willys-knight's matching interior really impressed me, like the Auburns, Cords, early Hudsons, some Chryslers, Imperials, and certain other pre 1942 cars, tan and gray is so bland to me. Looking foward to see the Whippet video when you get it ready; just was thinking of Whippet and Essex cars watching this episode. I learned a lot about the Whippet from reading one of Pat Foster's books. Hope you get to meet him at one of the big AMC meets before he leaves us, he is a big expert on orphan cars, and owns a treasure trove of info and pictures on cars and trucks lots of people don't know about. I've read his Hudson, Nash and Willys books and learned a lot.
I would have liked to hear that engine run. Never knew there was such a thing as valve in cylinder.
I have a video of it driving by I will upload it as a short
It’s super quite might not be today though driving back home from Hershey today
I would have to choose the Hudson every time as my Great Uncle had a 1929 Hudson Great 8
Awesome =)
Such a beautiful car you found Jay!
The metal pressing of the hood is very impressive for the time, and then there’s the headlight mounts! Unbelievable! Such wonderfull manufacturing, that I’ve never seen before.
Great video mate 👍
This is one of my favorites so far love when we go through and explain stuff going to try and do that more often Early cars it’s hard to compare them so I do more history the next episode isn’t going to come out till probably Saturday it’s going to be on the AMC Marlin The way I have it set up now going to the history of how long Romney ran the company and replaced with Abernathy company for and who took over and what changes they made.. it’s cool to look at that history stuff. Plus going to do a comparison in that one so it would be a really cool episode I think the only downer is I didn’t get in the backseat I didn’t do any of the seat stuff the owner told me I could do whatever I wanted to but then whenever I started doing stuff he got really protective over the car or at least that’s how I felt so I didn’t even get in this one.. doing the Matt shows us weird you’re doing it for an audience and sometimes they like to interject things which is cool I totally like when they do it..
It is a really nice automobile, beautiful color, and the i space and finishes are great! All the choices are awesome, but I'd pick the Hup and the Hudson as my favorites. The period ads are fantastic! The cabinet is super nice! The finish isn't my taste, but I love the style and the handles, and arched doors! Cool video 😎
I screwed up I put the wrong picture and maybe I’ll post a picture of what the Hudson was supposed to look like it looks nice
People wanted to see more furniture so I wanted to show some more stuff I’m on the fence maybe for Christmas I will offer 8 x 10 picture frames or something like that if you guys wanna buy something I have no idea I don’t know what the response would be I build all kinds of stuff.
Probably going to do T-shirts next year maybe not just T-shirts definitely collared shirts like polos
I was gonna make one that said I’d rather drive a machine I think that would be really cool =)
I’d rather drive something different
@@What.its.like.Sounds cool!😎
Congratulations on 2 years and looking forward to many more episodes. What a convoluted corporate history! I imagine trying to survive in the Depression took desperate measures.
Yeah we are here for the long haul I’m hungry for this stuff I always have been. I just wish that I would’ve started the channel sooner but we’re doing it now so that’s all that really matters I guess.
I will always run this as a community your input means the world to me and I don’t understand why more people don’t do it like that it blows my mind. I mean I guess maybe you’ll get to a point one day where it will be impossible to answer everybody there are days like that I try to respond to everybody that I can I do read all the comments and I have made adjustments based on comments. Each episode is different we’ve covered cars from the same year and they’re two totally different episodes I record every intro each intro is different the only intro that I pre-recorded was the one for the Greenfield Village because I didn’t wanna say that one over and over again but I do adjust the clips that are shown in that one.
I honestly can’t wait for next year I mean we got Hershey we’re gonna do stuff with Classic Automall and all this stuff I met some really incredible people that I definitely wanna pay homage to at the end of the year but I got to get their permission to use her name some people like to be private
Glad you dig the channel =)
29 Auburn
29 Stude
song, got me...
Great choice is the song was knights in white stain Moody blues
Thank you for the information-dense video. I would go for the Willys both times. The sleeve valves also meant there was no need for periodic valve grinding (much more of an issue in those days), and if the timing connection broke, there were no valves to hit the pistons--no internal damage would result. Mercedes tried Knight sleeve valves before WWI, but abandoned them. Stearns had a V8, then a straight eight, with sleeve valves. Stearns was a very regional brand--it did not have the market coverage to survive the Depression.
You’re welcome I absolutely love when we can dive in deep on a car like this some brands are straight forward and don’t need tons of explanation. I would love to feature a Stearns night as well as any sleep valve engine I think they’re really cool
We might cover that in an engine episode one day but I’m going to need help explaining how all of it works or get better acquainted with it
There is a pre-WWI book, originally in German, "The Scientific Determination of the Merits of Automobiles," which covers the Knight sleeve valve in detail, and discusses The Mercedes in particular--it is in the public domain and should be somewhere on the Web--but there are other books with that title. There is a review of the book I am talking about on JSTOR, from the 1915 SAE Transactions that is online, but I couldn't find the book itself on a cursory Google search. Despite the early date, it is very scientifically rigorous. By the way, your informant says the sleeves are rotated, but they are only reciprocated in the Knight system--two single-sleeve systems do rotate the sleeve--the Burt-McCollum system and another, VERY obscure system discussed in the book. There was an attempt to use shortened double sleeves in European Grand Prix cars (Rolland-Pilain?)--they were called "cuff valves." One of the major drawbacks of the Knight system was the weight of the sleeves--and the engine was even heavier because of the need to have more separation between the cylinders. Another was the tendency to use a lot of oil, and to have a smoky exhaust. Harry Ricardo designed a crosshead engine with intake past the underside of the piston specifically to get a smokeless tank engine to replace the Daimler sleeve-valve engine in early British tanks, which smoked too much for military requirements of concealment.
I totally know what you mean some information is hard to find Before World War II it’s like you hit a wall and it sucks like I don’t understand why the Internet doesn’t have that information beings that the internets been around for decades at this point.
I’m going to Hershey in a couple weeks I’m planning on making a trip to the AA CA library there is some stuff that I want to check out I’m just gonna take my phone and screenshot I wanna find out as much information as I possibly can on Continental engines as well as Franklin I really want to do engine episodes on both of those and the information just isn’t there.. it’s probably gonna be an overview of the companies because they made tons of different engine configurations.. sometimes they make different configurations in the same gear for different manufacturers one company will have this six-cylinder another company will have a six cylinder that looks almost identical but the internals will be totally different.
Really want to dive in deep on the sleeve valve engine one day but that’s another one where do you draw the line do you just talk about the four-cylinder and six cylinder or in-line engines in one episode and then another episode talk about they made a sleeve valve v8.. i’m having a hard time coming up with what engine I want to do this week I might make it a poll
Okay--in case the book is there, it is entitled "The Scientific Determination of the Merits of Automobiles; reports I-X of the Laboratory for Motor-Cars at the Royal Technical University, Berlin-Charlottenburg." Authors; A Riedler (Alois), 1850-1936.Technische Hochschule Berlin. Versuchsanstalt für Kraftfahrzeuge. Print Book[1914]
London, General Oil Pub. Co. [1914] OCLC Number/Unique Identifier: 3353408 LCCN: 66090230
Under the old Dewey Decimal system of cataloging, the number is 629.22 R442s.
Good luck finding it.
Thank you so much for that information I’m also going to look at Hershey if I can find the history of continental engines I’m gonna just buy that book I will need it in the future I feel I think it has every single continental engine broke down into different displacements and specifications yours used cars used or at least that’s what I was told and I hope that such a book exist because it would make my life a whole lot easier.. when talking about cars that use continental engines
That is a lucrative business opportunity for anybody that had a machine shop to make replacement continental engine parts for whatever reason they totally abandon that side of their industry and went all in on aircraft engines which I don’t understand. I’m a bit of an entrepreneur I can see where there’s a problem and way to make money from the problem the problem for me is I don’t have enough money to go into that sector nor would I want to
But someone with a good machinery background could make a good living just making replacement continental parts.
Willys-Knight was second in total production in 1929 to Ford, yet I've never seen one at a car show. I've seen Fords. Chevy's, Packards, Duesenburgs, never a Willys. Yes, you convinced me that the correct pronunciation is "Will-is".
They were up there with ford from 1912-1918 2nd in the industry
Yeah I know what you mean this has been on the list to do just haven’t seen one glad you dig this episode
They should bring back the sleeve valve
Willy- Hudson and btw awesome song
Great choices =)
In this era, mass-production casting and machining techniques were less accurate than they are today. This often caused higher than average oil consumption for sleeve valve engines. The oil consumption could cause sleeve valve engines to smoke and smell more than other engine types. In 1929, there were still a lot of people around who came of age before automobiles arrived. There was a lot of resistance to cars initially because of the noise, smoke and odors they produced. Any cars that produced excessive amounts of these characteristics were looked down upon. (Such people were willing to overlook the fact that horses produced their own byproducts.) As more conventional engines improved, the advantages of the sleeve valve engine receded in importance.
I recall my dad, who would have been about 10 years old when these were new cars saying that these were known for smoking badly.
I wonder if they got decent gas mileage because this would be a really good engine to bring back machining has come along way I’m all about a different driving experience what have you turbo charged it would that be a thing could it be a thing..
I like all those cars. No favorite.
I messed up at the end I didn’t put the Hudson picture and I use the hot mobile picture I was really trying to get it done on time I was really shocked I was able to
I wanted to make sure all the information that was presenting was as accurate as can be because there’s lots of conflicting information and also doing the whole lineage thing took some time to figure out when the companies were around until when Willis like to change names every so often like every couple years different name
@@What.its.like. I understand.
Sleeve valve engines have fewer moving parts, but they smoke.
Love the Willys marque, great video! Would love to see a video on the later Willys models from '37 to '42, some favorite quirky cars in that era. Keep 'em coming!
Yeah for sure I’ve been looking =)
I have really high hopes for Hershey I kind of sort of want to try to do 50 cars I’m going for three days so that shouldn’t be too hard.. but would also love to hang out with people and not get burned out the second day of the Greenfield Village I was starting to feel it because I’ve never done days back to back before generally I just go and do one full day and then I have all the rest of the day to recover from it but my voice was shot and I’m hoping that it’s not like that.
Glad you dig this episode =)
Willys not to be confused with the Willis of St Clair car companies! This has always been a very confusing set of names usually misused or understood by the general public. Two totally separate and different companies and line of vehicles.
The attention to detail on this car is amazing. The knight theme throughout the design, from the shield emblem on the bumpers, to the hood ornament to the shield like headlight housings. I had to chuckle at the interior. It looks just like the same fabric, even close to the color of my '86 Colony Park. I prefer a darker blue, but the paint color on this is absolutely stunning. I have never heard of a sleeve valve engine. Interesting design. My only thought on that is expansion and contraction due to engine temperatures would make the fit variable, which could cause other issues. Wouldn't mind seeing a deep dive into this powerplant... The other thing I've noticed with the reviews of these pre-war beauties, is it seems the ones to not survive much past the depression were trying to be too many things to too many people. The number of brands, the number of models and sub-models, while giving consumers mega-options, isn't really cost effective. Even GM and Ford, eventually pared down their brands and models to stay competitive. Yes, it sucks for us buyers in some ways, but remaining in business also helps us with price competition. As beautiful as this car is, it's a bit too ornate for my taste... so... 1) Auburn 2) Hudson.
I definitely want to do a deep dive on this engine I have to get better acquainted with it though in order to explain it and where do you draw the line do you talk about all of the sleeve valve engines or do you talk about the six cylinder sleeve valve and then do the other sleeve valves in a different episode I don’t know how many different the placements that was offered in I would probably have to get a Willys-knight book to do that episode what would definitely want to do one in the future.
Glad you dig this episode there is a falcon night in the pipeline that uses a sleep valve four-cylinder it was the base entry level sleeve valve car it was made by Willys but they separated that make for some reason they did some interesting business practices back then
Great choices I screwed up and didn’t put the right picture in for the Hudson
I saw you walking on the sidewalk across from the Greenfield Village water tower in someone else's video!
That’s really cool I was all over the place and I started watching other peoples videos from there and I was wondering if I was caught in any of them there was a lot of people there so it’s quite possible..
Do you have the link I would love to see what I looked like
@@What.its.like. no, sorry, I don't. You looked just like you. 👍
For me I’d select the Auburn from column A and the Hudson from column B
Awesome choices =)
My mother's father had a by what she said was a 1927 Willys Knight Great Six and she had kept the literature for it which I after a bit of research determined it was a 1926. She remembered riding in it and when it was shifted into 2nd gear it seemed to sound like it had endless power. Unfortunately I no longer have the literature.
Great car, not only a fascinating engine, but very beautiful! 🔵 Jay, did they discontinue the sleeve engines because as engines evolved, higher compression caused problems, or was it a cost or service issue? Those headlights are cool too. 😎 🕯️😊
I’m not sure why they just continued the engine I think they discontinued it because they couldn’t afford to keep it going from the effects of the Great Depression, And just never came back to it
Is it just me or John Willys reincarnated into the actual owner of the car? They look alike so much!
Haha I didn’t see that but yeah he does
Awesome video as always so far! I always love the sleeve valve knight engines and from my understanding not a lot of people do work on them so it can be tricky finding someone who really knows what they are doing when it comes to an engine rebuild etc. I believe I’ve met the owner of this car at other car events I believe he has several knight cars but I could be mistaken if so I wonder if we’ll get to see his others! He’s very passionate about them and definitely knows what he’s talking about. P.s as you’ll come to find many of the old car Wikipedias are not very accurate and they are a pain in the butt to change once somebody already created it I know from the Cole Wikipedia 😂. So don’t ever feel bad about conflicting info when it comes to these old obscure brands trust me it’s more of a headache than anything trying to actually figure out what’s the truth😂. But I do believe the owner is correct in the regards about the engine versus the Wikipedia. Thank you for sharing as always jay!
Thank you so much for watching the owner was explaining how the sleeve valve works and he’s a great guy I would love to cover more of his cars I did cover falcon night that either belong to his dad or belong to a friend of his and there’s also a whippet in the pipeline.. they were all just great I absolutely love that show it’s the best experience I’ve ever experienced in the car hobby.
Thank you so much for all your positive vibes I really appreciate it and I actually look for your comment in the comment section I try to run this as a community it’s weird I don’t have a photographic memory but I can see peoples pictures and recognize who comments a lot.
I worked at the Classic Car dealership last year and it was only a Monday through Wednesday job for me I would come in next Monday and I could tell the boss where are they moved cars which cars were missing and he was just blown away how my mind works like that.
@@What.its.like.that’s awesome I’m sure your boss at the museum loves having you around!! It’s nice seeing younger people around my age getting more into the hobby I’m 23 btw. That sounds like the guy I was thinking of yeah his dad has some cars and he has a good buddy or two that collect the sleeve valves. I believe he has a really nice sterns knight that would be awesome if you could film it one day. Look forward to those upcoming videos!
Just to be clear I don’t work for anybody I’m a freelancer at this point I have a Cabinet business but it’s my own I do photography but it’s on my own everything that I do is freelance work.. private sector and I’m so happy that I can say that because a lot of people try and they fail and I’m not going to say that it’s easy because there are months that it’s feast or famine..
@@What.its.like. my apologies i meant the boss for when you worked at the museum unless I misread that part which is possible 😂. That’s awesome though and you should be very proud it’s not easy doing everything like you’re doing and you’re making a great impression in the car community so far so keep it up and i don’t have much knowledge in the cabinet industry/really any work working abilities I can imagine it’s like an art so definitely don’t stop! You keep working how you are I have no doubt you’ll accomplish all your goals! Sorry again about the boss misunderstanding.
No worries man I honestly can’t wait to meet you I can’t wait to do more with your dad and the Packard owner not sure if you want his name out there very cool guys, this year I got to meet some really incredible people and I can’t wait to see what happens next year today is our second year anniversary from the very first video we started back in 2021..
I have a 52 Chevy 1 ton truck I wanted that to be the two-year anniversary episode but I haven’t shot it yet so and as fate would have it did you joints went out so it’s currently in the shop hopefully I can get fixed because that was a problem when we switch the engine we had to get new joints made and it was a bit of a issue but hopefully she’ll be back on the road soon.
algunos de estos han sobrevivido pero con motores cambiados .🎥👍
Yeah transplanting modern power plants to keep them on the road is ok I don’t much car when people start cutting up the cars but that’s just me =)
@@What.its.like. uno que conozco tiene un motor Dodge 47 😔
Hey jay today video was great as always but I’m totally digging the cabinet how can I contact you for more info
Send me an email
What_its_like@yahoo.com
All I can say about the pronunciation is that, without exception, everyone I have known who was alive when these cars were new pronounced the name "Willys", not "Willis". In fact, it wasn't until a few months ago that I first heard it pronounced "Willis".
In the town my Dad grew up I had a 1930 Willis Fire Truck. It was their first fire truck and they still have it and the run it in parades. Never looked under the hood, was wondering if it has one of these motors in it.
Awesome thank you for sharing those memories =)
Willys was Welsh- which is why it's properly pronounced, 'Willis'. Yeah, I had to go there when I did his bio.
Awesome information thank you so much for sharing that I didn’t know he was Welsh he was welsh I didn’t dig into the history on him I figured we were gonna do another I try not to be redundant and bring as much information as possible. Without repeating a lot of it I guess
Just a FYI . My father. Mains to had one . Don’t know the year or year he had it but he claims it smoked so bad that that They wouldn’t let him through the tunnels. The hood looks more like older Chrysler to me then Packard.
I got to see this one drive by the owner said he has a couple more this one he drives a lot and when he went by there was no smoke it was whisper quiet it just glided past I have B roll over driving by I will add that in the next Greenfield Village episode when we talk about the Greenfield Village and raise the volume up ..
@@What.its.like. I’m sure my dads was very old and probably worn out when he bought it .
1 & 2: 1929 Willys-Knight.
Tune: I Get By With A Little Help From My Friends by John Lennon and Sir Paul McCartney.
Great choices great guess someone just got it knights in white satin
I don’t know what happened to the premiere today I must’ve forgot to hit the box
@@What.its.like. It happens. We all make mistakes.
I'm pretty sure RIngo wrote that song, which is why he sang it... but I could be wrong.
@@livewire2759 Maybe, but how would I know?
Auburn.
Sweet =)
Can you review a 1940 Chevy truck, I’m getting one
That is a truck I totally wanna review but they’re like ghosts you never see them until you see one and then you’ll see 1 million of them lol
I’m going to Hershey in a couple weeks I will definitely look when I’m there I want to cover at least 10 trucks we need to do more trucks on this channel
WYR? 1 Willys WYR? 2 Stude Was that interior original? That looks like 80's upholstery, both in color and design.
I’m not sure if it’s been reupholstered I should’ve asked I think he said it was original but I’m not 100% on that it felt like mohair but it was really soft mohair just like the Windsor white Prince.. awesome choices =)
1929 Willys
1929. I think you meant Hupmobile.
Great choices =)
That’s Not the Way it’s supposed to be said😂😂
Jay You’re a Kool Guy,Too Many uptight Folks out there!
14:14 - Accidental face reveal... LOL
Yeah, I'm a stickler for pronunciation (and spelling) as well... but after hearing and saying "Will-EEE-s" for so many years, it's a difficult habit to break.
BTW... pick some better songs. ;P (I'd have gone with Sabbath's "Neon Knights" to fit with the "Knight" theme, but that's just me...)
I do show my face on here sometimes but I like to shoot it in first person so it’s like you’re seeing everything it’s just how I like to present this but I do show how I look sometimes and I think I’m gonna do that a little bit more I really love when we can go for rides in these cars because I like to sit behind the person and shoot over their shoulder so it’s like you’re driving the car that’s the best for me because it’s like the person watching it is doing it.
Haha yeah I only pronounce it the right way on here when I’m out in the wild I don’t say it like that I said how everybody else says it but it’s actually supposed to be like that I try not to get too wrapped up in pronunciations that’s why I put the slides in there cause there’s more ways to pronounce words than people think =)
I have done some harder songs on here but most of them are from the 60s or 70s I started picking instrumental tracks cause it’s harder..
When we cover some newer stuff because I plan on hitting a couple appliances before the end of the year and will have to state my case on why I call them that.
I have nothing against appliance cars I’m just calling them for what they are sometimes when they break they’re not fixable they’re disposable if you throw them away if something major happens whereas a lot of the old cars were machines use metal gears not plastic gears and frankly were made to be fixed and they break sometimes more frequently if not oiled properly or greased. But there’s just something about Classic Cars that you lose in a modern car when I drive my truck it talks to me like if it needs greased it will let you know.. if you need brake fluid it will let you know. And there’s just something about driving a machine you’re so much part of the experience whereas a new car you’re so isolated from everything
@@What.its.like. I'm a mechanic... believe me, I know EXACTLY what you mean by "appliance cars". LOL The newest vehicle I own is a 1979 Suburban. All these modern vehicles with automatic and electronic... everything... are just far more complicated than they need to be. What's funny to me is that my old trucks are so simple, yet most people today don't understand how to drive them... they can't shift a manual trans, can't operate a manual choke...
Anyway, I'm glad I found your channel. I've subscribed and I'm gonna go through and watch all of your old videos now too, so keep makin' 'em!
My mechanic wanted to give me an electric choke upgrade on my truck and I said hell no. My truck likes to vapor lock if I have a manual choke a total control over that.. I just like having control over things I guess I totally love a manual transmission double clutching is also cool.. some kids say “drivers car” don’t really know what a drivers car is. And the definition varies but to me the drivers car is absolutely no power nothing.. that’s the only way you are one with the machine.. some will take it a step further and say double clutch no synchronization.. it takes real skill to be able to fast shift and downshift when you’re driving a crash box.
Welcome to the community lots of cool stuff on here we are 349 episodes in and today marks 2nd year =)