Thank you for the vid. I want tell you casualSab… I personally will not be investing anymore $$ into sto. Do you work for Cryptic ? I have been watching Star Trek since 1968, and this game is something I have enjoyed and never thought possible growing up in that time. Right now your videos seem nothing more than about greed. If you care about the series or Gene, I suggest you work towards it.
Can you imagine anyone spending $300 on some ingame items, even $30 on ingame items is a lot when you can get entire games for around $50-$80, e.g. Cyberpunk and the Phantom Liberty game is £54 here in the UK so I assume it's about the same in the US. Also given the somewhat uncertain future of STO at the moment I'm surprised anyone would stump up for this bundle, especially considering the ships are pretty much irrelevant nowadays, sure PO is great but you only need it on one toon if at all, build in enough uncons combined with boimlers and I'd argue it's not required at all. No surprise about the blog errors, I think Kael probably spent more time on his LinkIn post and his new website and rushed this out at the last minute. Wish you were doing Elder Scrolls online vids Spencer, your careful reasoned analysis is sorely missing on many content creators for that game. Thanks for the vid.
Yeah, the pricing for things in STO is insane given that there isn't really any content to justify most purchases. As for ESO, just not the biggest fantasy fan. Could never get into Skyrim Been very burnt out with STO the past few months. So I have been playing other games a bit more recently. Finished the Days Gone storyline, and been trying Destiny 2 out again. But unlikely I'll do videos for more games near term.
I'm not planning to get this particular bundle. The Iktomi is the only ship I am interested in, however, it is fairly easy to get via the exchange or through the lobi store. The Freedom would have been nice for my Kelvin themed alt, but I already have the Legendary Intel Battlecruiser. Which is prettier than the Franklin and is a full spec intel ship.
There's something up with the audio I think? Your voice kind of has a strange "echo" like effect, like Protoss from Starcraft and Eldar in WH40k games. I saw this bundle show up on the news page and immediately thought, "Iktomi is carrying this entire thing like Atlas." I have the Iktomi & Vonph from back when they were originally introduced. Vonph is okay but I got her back when I was all-in on the Herald ships. One of my toons had all the Herald ships. Last time I used the Vonph was last year, just for kicks. It'll get the job done as a 2-hangar Carrier. FYI the Herald console set leans heavily towards Exotic, especially the Vonph's console. But the Vonph itself is a Cmdr TAC ship, you have no Secondary Deflector. The highest SCI station you have is LtCmdr only. Iktomi? Decent SCI Vessel but you're really only getting this ship for 2 possible reasons: 1. You like the Tholian theme 2. You're grabbing and mastering the really nice trait and using it on another ship. I have the Iktomi on one of my Feds that used to run a Tholian theme. She had all the Tholian ships. Iktomi will get the job done as a SCI Vessel. As a full on SCI Vessel, she actually is the best of the Tholian ships to use if you want to have some use out of the console set of these ships. Like the Herald ship consoles, the Tholian console set leans very heavy on Exotic builds. The Web Generator console looks cool, it's an iconic thing to see in the game, and it's fun to use... If it works right. It's very unreliable for 2 reasons. Very large targets often "break" the web immediately once you use it. Targets that spam BFAW wreck the web field real quick. I never parsed it, but looking at the resulting loss of HP on the enemy caught in the web? Didn't do much. You use the console just for cool looks. It's not really going to do anything in a battle. Last thing is related to the Tholian console set. The Tholian Tarantula has the Web Cannon console. The clicky ability on that console, to get the most use out of it, requires heavy Exotic building and high Aux power. The Iktomi being a SCI Vessel and having all the tools to make the best use of Exotic builds is the superior platform to use the Web Generator console on than the Tarantula. The Tarantula doesn't have enough "oomph" in Science oriented builds for the same reasons why the Herald Vonph isn't the best platform for her own console set. No Cmdr SCI, no Secondary Deflector. Instead of Cmdr SCI like the Iktomi, the Tarantula has Cmdr ENG with no specialization. She only has 3 SCI Console slots. I don't know if a properly built up Science Build is going to help you make the Web Cannon a DPS Winner while on the Iktomi, but it is one of those single use, hard hitting abilities. The Web Cannon roots you in place as it charges up and needs the target(s) to be in front of you. What you want to do is Gravity Well a bunch of targets and then use the Web Cannon on them for fat damage. The blast is a cone AOE in front of you, so you can hit multiple targets. I did this mostly on the Tarantula but Iktomi did this better. Do understand that if you're CC'ing a bunch of targets like this, often they're going to shift fire on you immediately. Be ready for the reprisal while the Web Cannon roots you and charges up. Of all the Tholian Consoles, the Web Cannon was the most fun. However, it's from the Tarantula, not the Iktomi, but the Iktomi is the best platform for using it.
Damn, looks like the noise suppression was not working as well as I thought it was. That's it trying to remove a fan from background audio. But seems to have messed up this time :( The web cannon can do a bit of damage when buffed up, but the long activation time just kills it for most gameplay.
because its those people gamble with keys like the Atlas for DPRM, Spearhead Refit for UD & the D7 for ruin. You put those in mudss and there would no longer be a need to gamble and profits would sink. There are def better overall bundles than this from mudds just depends on bundles ect people are into. If you took the phoenix store ships and put them in mudds people would go for them but too much dil is dumped into it for it to be worth that happening either.
I find it fascinating that you are the only person that has made a video about this bundle, especially as they finally put the tholian iktomi in a mudd's bundle. Yet everyone is silent about it, weird...
I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it. No Mudd’s Bundles are worth it at 50% off. If they ever do 75% off again (chances of slim to none), then this bundle doesn’t hit my top three picks. I already have IPO on two toons, and the Iktomi is relatively cheap on the exchange.
And we will for certain have a Key sale and loads of sales about this time next month. Black friday should be a Zen charge bonus + 25% off everything in c-store.
The other day when they announced this I had my skepticism on standby. Looks like I was prepared. Another bundle of ships that are _almost_ what someone would want.
I didn't do a comparison for each ship as the main appeal to these ships is their accessories and/or visuals. Had limited recording time yesterday, so with those factors, felt that comparisons were the easiest part to cut to save time.
I own one Vonph. I like it for the look, and the bridge, but it is a god-awful ship to fly. I play at 1080p (old eyes can't see higher resolutions unless it's a 40" monitor lol), and at 1080p, maximum zoom-out, the Vonph is still the full height of the screen. The Iktomi account-wide is something I've wanted for a long time for the trait, but I can't justify spending an additional $100 for two other items from the bundle...
I want IPO on 4 toons (and want to fly the iktomi on a 5th) even then I don't think this bundle is worth it. 1.25bn cost to.get those ships for 5 toons, and nothing else would take my fancy. The other ships have nothing going for them bar their rarity. I have 5x t6 coupons sitting gathering dust. I don't open lockboxes (nor have anything I want to buy for lobi and if I did I have 3x uncracked event campaign boxes for that.) The t6x tokens are far cheaper in phoenix event and all my gear across 23 toons is 15 epic so no need for ultimate upgrades either! Afraid it's a hard pass. But what it does allow me to do is buy the iktomis now. Because I was waiting to see if it would go in a mudds with some other good things that I DID want. And now that it hasn't I know it never will!
Great review. I'll be skipping. I have Iktomis on the two toons that really need the trait and may one day pick one up for a science alt. Other than that, nothing here compels.
That's why these bundles are sad. We need account wide options when a ship first comes out. Like a zen/Lobi buyout of a lockbox or promo ship that unlocks it account wide.
I'm not spending more money in the game until the insane lag that started happening after last week's patch is corrected. I've been playing since Day 1 and the lag has never been this bad before. I used to have SNR from time to time although it has been years since the last time this happened but right now the lag is making the game unplayable. The game freezes and I there are times when I can even click on anything. I asked my guilmates and some of them have the same problem but others have no issue. I did a trace and the problem appears to come from somewhere in Boston which is where I suppose the server is.
@@edwardcruz6233 It's not. And there are other people complaining of the same problem on the forums. The bottleneck starts at the server. THis might time to finally say goodbye to the game. I spent way too much money in this game.
I don't think STO itself is going anywhere anytime soon. But layoffs for some of the STO team are sadly possible, and that would impact pace of future development.
Great review, very succinct. This bundle wasn't for me and had little of interest in it. The ships have aged out and in my humble opinion and many of the free ships we have gotten in the last few years are superior to them. Not to mention some very good C Store Ships. Thanks again and take care
Who is stupid enough to spend $150 let alone $300 for items on a 10+ yr old game??? Drop the prices by another 50% across the board then more people might actually buy something
They should make a bundle where you can pick three ships from any previous mudd bundles.
I need a mudds bundle with a Atlas in it or a Legendary Atlas/Thrai would be fire.
yes I agree
Thank you for the vid. I want tell you casualSab… I personally will not be investing anymore $$ into sto. Do you work for Cryptic ? I have been watching Star Trek since 1968, and this game is something I have enjoyed and never thought possible growing up in that time. Right now your videos seem nothing more than about greed. If you care about the series or Gene, I suggest you work towards it.
that seems a bit harsh he has advised me not to buy more than to actually buy
I considered buying a Mudds pack, but then realised it would be cheaper to just purchase a new home and that's going to be more useful.
Even a 50% sale its not worth it
I like the competitive experimental weapon
I am surprised they have not put the yearly event campaign box in mudds and sell for some crazy amount.
Indeed, with how they monetize things, am surprised they haven't.
Can you imagine anyone spending $300 on some ingame items, even $30 on ingame items is a lot when you can get entire games for around $50-$80, e.g. Cyberpunk and the Phantom Liberty game is £54 here in the UK so I assume it's about the same in the US. Also given the somewhat uncertain future of STO at the moment I'm surprised anyone would stump up for this bundle, especially considering the ships are pretty much irrelevant nowadays, sure PO is great but you only need it on one toon if at all, build in enough uncons combined with boimlers and I'd argue it's not required at all. No surprise about the blog errors, I think Kael probably spent more time on his LinkIn post and his new website and rushed this out at the last minute. Wish you were doing Elder Scrolls online vids Spencer, your careful reasoned analysis is sorely missing on many content creators for that game. Thanks for the vid.
Yeah, the pricing for things in STO is insane given that there isn't really any content to justify most purchases.
As for ESO, just not the biggest fantasy fan. Could never get into Skyrim
Been very burnt out with STO the past few months. So I have been playing other games a bit more recently. Finished the Days Gone storyline, and been trying Destiny 2 out again. But unlikely I'll do videos for more games near term.
I'm not planning to get this particular bundle. The Iktomi is the only ship I am interested in, however, it is fairly easy to get via the exchange or through the lobi store. The Freedom would have been nice for my Kelvin themed alt, but I already have the Legendary Intel Battlecruiser. Which is prettier than the Franklin and is a full spec intel ship.
There's something up with the audio I think? Your voice kind of has a strange "echo" like effect, like Protoss from Starcraft and Eldar in WH40k games.
I saw this bundle show up on the news page and immediately thought, "Iktomi is carrying this entire thing like Atlas."
I have the Iktomi & Vonph from back when they were originally introduced. Vonph is okay but I got her back when I was all-in on the Herald ships. One of my toons had all the Herald ships. Last time I used the Vonph was last year, just for kicks. It'll get the job done as a 2-hangar Carrier. FYI the Herald console set leans heavily towards Exotic, especially the Vonph's console. But the Vonph itself is a Cmdr TAC ship, you have no Secondary Deflector. The highest SCI station you have is LtCmdr only.
Iktomi? Decent SCI Vessel but you're really only getting this ship for 2 possible reasons:
1. You like the Tholian theme
2. You're grabbing and mastering the really nice trait and using it on another ship.
I have the Iktomi on one of my Feds that used to run a Tholian theme. She had all the Tholian ships. Iktomi will get the job done as a SCI Vessel. As a full on SCI Vessel, she actually is the best of the Tholian ships to use if you want to have some use out of the console set of these ships. Like the Herald ship consoles, the Tholian console set leans very heavy on Exotic builds.
The Web Generator console looks cool, it's an iconic thing to see in the game, and it's fun to use... If it works right. It's very unreliable for 2 reasons. Very large targets often "break" the web immediately once you use it. Targets that spam BFAW wreck the web field real quick. I never parsed it, but looking at the resulting loss of HP on the enemy caught in the web? Didn't do much. You use the console just for cool looks. It's not really going to do anything in a battle.
Last thing is related to the Tholian console set. The Tholian Tarantula has the Web Cannon console. The clicky ability on that console, to get the most use out of it, requires heavy Exotic building and high Aux power. The Iktomi being a SCI Vessel and having all the tools to make the best use of Exotic builds is the superior platform to use the Web Generator console on than the Tarantula. The Tarantula doesn't have enough "oomph" in Science oriented builds for the same reasons why the Herald Vonph isn't the best platform for her own console set. No Cmdr SCI, no Secondary Deflector. Instead of Cmdr SCI like the Iktomi, the Tarantula has Cmdr ENG with no specialization. She only has 3 SCI Console slots.
I don't know if a properly built up Science Build is going to help you make the Web Cannon a DPS Winner while on the Iktomi, but it is one of those single use, hard hitting abilities. The Web Cannon roots you in place as it charges up and needs the target(s) to be in front of you. What you want to do is Gravity Well a bunch of targets and then use the Web Cannon on them for fat damage. The blast is a cone AOE in front of you, so you can hit multiple targets. I did this mostly on the Tarantula but Iktomi did this better.
Do understand that if you're CC'ing a bunch of targets like this, often they're going to shift fire on you immediately. Be ready for the reprisal while the Web Cannon roots you and charges up. Of all the Tholian Consoles, the Web Cannon was the most fun. However, it's from the Tarantula, not the Iktomi, but the Iktomi is the best platform for using it.
Damn, looks like the noise suppression was not working as well as I thought it was. That's it trying to remove a fan from background audio. But seems to have messed up this time :(
The web cannon can do a bit of damage when buffed up, but the long activation time just kills it for most gameplay.
Do you know of a reasonable way to acquire the Obelisk Carrier? I have always wanted one, I love the way it looks.
They really need to have the TOS era Dreadnoughts in a bundle
I got the Herald Vonph for my Event Campaign V reward for free basically so.. and its a fun ship to use or just gawk at lol.
I don’t understand why they don’t make bundles people want to buy. I seriously would drop some money for a bundle that had some meta ships.
because its those people gamble with keys like the Atlas for DPRM, Spearhead Refit for UD & the D7 for ruin. You put those in mudss and there would no longer be a need to gamble and profits would sink. There are def better overall bundles than this from mudds just depends on bundles ect people are into. If you took the phoenix store ships and put them in mudds people would go for them but too much dil is dumped into it for it to be worth that happening either.
I find it fascinating that you are the only person that has made a video about this bundle, especially as they finally put the tholian iktomi in a mudd's bundle. Yet everyone is silent about it, weird...
Hey Spencer I finally got the products to protostar but I had to buy it on exchange I got Lucky to get her to give Price
Thanks Spencer! I'm sending you an in game email in a few minutes.
sorry it will be a while
Got it! Thank you!
I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it. No Mudd’s Bundles are worth it at 50% off. If they ever do 75% off again (chances of slim to none), then this bundle doesn’t hit my top three picks. I already have IPO on two toons, and the Iktomi is relatively cheap on the exchange.
They they got a cell on Mudge and I'm looking at the elotchi ship is it anyway good I could not hey a good online answer ty😮
Muds market
Howdy, the elachi ship in there isn't anything that special. But if you like the design of it, it can get the job done.
thanks for reply, also did you get my in-game mail is all cool ? and last do you talk to Martin ? in-game ty
is the a key sale coming up ? also what is replacing the Halloween event you heard yet let me guess red alert 🙂
Think I heard it might be a rerun of the feast event
If you Don't roll a ship hope you've grown something useful🎉🎉😂😊😊
And we will for certain have a Key sale and loads of sales about this time next month. Black friday should be a Zen charge bonus + 25% off everything in c-store.
The other day when they announced this I had my skepticism on standby. Looks like I was prepared. Another bundle of ships that are _almost_ what someone would want.
Thank you for the info ❤LLAP
I got the the Herald Baltim Heavy Raider so that rule out on ship of this bundle and I can get the Tholin ship so pass I will get the escort later
hi S. did you get my gift package for Martin in game if have in game contact info for him ?
Howdy, just mailed it to him! And his handle is: @martinarg1979
Hi Casual. Nice update. Looking forward to the next live stream. Been missing the streams. Dan the fan.☻
I’d love to have the Iktomi on account wide unlock… but that’s a lot of money for just one trait. Rest of the bundle… meh
did I miss the better alt options?
I didn't do a comparison for each ship as the main appeal to these ships is their accessories and/or visuals. Had limited recording time yesterday, so with those factors, felt that comparisons were the easiest part to cut to save time.
I own one Vonph. I like it for the look, and the bridge, but it is a god-awful ship to fly. I play at 1080p (old eyes can't see higher resolutions unless it's a 40" monitor lol), and at 1080p, maximum zoom-out, the Vonph is still the full height of the screen.
The Iktomi account-wide is something I've wanted for a long time for the trait, but I can't justify spending an additional $100 for two other items from the bundle...
This one is definitely not worth it for me, but i can see how the Iktomi might make it worth it for some.
I want IPO on 4 toons (and want to fly the iktomi on a 5th) even then I don't think this bundle is worth it. 1.25bn cost to.get those ships for 5 toons, and nothing else would take my fancy. The other ships have nothing going for them bar their rarity. I have 5x t6 coupons sitting gathering dust. I don't open lockboxes (nor have anything I want to buy for lobi and if I did I have 3x uncracked event campaign boxes for that.) The t6x tokens are far cheaper in phoenix event and all my gear across 23 toons is 15 epic so no need for ultimate upgrades either! Afraid it's a hard pass. But what it does allow me to do is buy the iktomis now. Because I was waiting to see if it would go in a mudds with some other good things that I DID want. And now that it hasn't I know it never will!
dam feast ug but than thanksgiving season it may stop them from hiring show voices
Pass
Great review. I'll be skipping. I have Iktomis on the two toons that really need the trait and may one day pick one up for a science alt. Other than that, nothing here compels.
That's why these bundles are sad. We need account wide options when a ship first comes out. Like a zen/Lobi buyout of a lockbox or promo ship that unlocks it account wide.
@@NotoriousNickNorris Well said!
Can I still turn on the credits?
The only bundle I purchased had the immolating phaser lance…. Until DPRM or Ruin of our Enemies is one of the ships, I’ll pass.
75% off and ill bite, 50% is a joke
I'm not spending more money in the game until the insane lag that started happening after last week's patch is corrected. I've been playing since Day 1 and the lag has never been this bad before. I used to have SNR from time to time although it has been years since the last time this happened but right now the lag is making the game unplayable. The game freezes and I there are times when I can even click on anything. I asked my guilmates and some of them have the same problem but others have no issue. I did a trace and the problem appears to come from somewhere in Boston which is where I suppose the server is.
I play daily and I haven't encountered any significant lag. The problem might be on your end.
@@edwardcruz6233 It's not. And there are other people complaining of the same problem on the forums. The bottleneck starts at the server. THis might time to finally say goodbye to the game. I spent way too much money in this game.
What gets me is why they use fomo so much. Oh how I long for private servers.
I want them to unveil adhoc/private server options for PC and console players when they sunset the game.
Thank you.
I thought this company was shutting down? 😅
I don't think STO itself is going anywhere anytime soon. But layoffs for some of the STO team are sadly possible, and that would impact pace of future development.
Great review, very succinct. This bundle wasn't for me and had little of interest in it. The ships have aged out and in my humble opinion and many of the free ships we have gotten in the last few years are superior to them. Not to mention some very good C Store Ships. Thanks again and take care
Who is stupid enough to spend $150 let alone $300 for items on a 10+ yr old game??? Drop the prices by another 50% across the board then more people might actually buy something
STO players do pay thou, its a Trek thing. Embracer has said STO does still make money.
my new fav ship Lukari Scout no pro the ned do whats right
I don't plan to buy this bundle. The consoles should be unrestricted from their specific ship sources imo.
all the nopes.
The word "affordable" should never be used in this vid and vids like this one
Expensive to you doesn't make it expensive to everyone.
@@speedracer2735 It's not expensive to me not the point I was making you seem to have missed it lol.
🛌
that's an easy pass for me!
No
Nothing awesome about this bundle, hard pass!
It's terrible.
Hi, I' came chat late so ty for thekeycall out hope you fell better ty for martin help