Disclaimer: the LEDs are NOT part of the gimbal and are a separate accessory. Correction: the accessory springs are WEAKER than the stock ones, not STRONGER -- I got that wrong. Get the LED rings for your gimbals at: bit.ly/2Z2n5KG
Holy shite, 79.99 each, or 129.99 a set. They seem really nice and if they fit the QX-7 or the Jumper T-6 I would probably get them. I think I paid 29.99 each for hall gimbals for the QX7, but not that quality.
Pro tip; if you still have your Radiomaster TX16s foam case it comes in, you can flip your radio upside down in it and work on the back without your nice new gimbals rubbing and pushing into the table.
The amount of people in the comments that deep down want these gimbals but they are trying justify to themselves why they should not buy them(probably because they can't afford them right now but really want them). Is funny as hell haha. If I had a Radiomaster. I would 100% get them! Gimbals are super important man. Just as important as video tx and rx. As well control link too.
I thoroughly love my TX16S, but the endpoints being “fluid” is getting worse by the day, now that it’s 6+ months old and has 6 or 8 models programmed into it, which I cycle through multiple times daily. Wish I could afford these gimbals. Those would be a GREAT upgrade!
JB, man,, you say so much without saying a word. You keep me laughing with your expressions. That also keeps me tuned in. Don't change a thing. Thanks again for making me learn something today!
I see what you mean about that little bit of extra 'wiggle'' space when pressing the throttle lower on my T16, but that little anomaly has never been an issue for me, the gimbals on that are perfectly fine for my flying. At $130 I guess it's for serious racers or anyone who has to have the best no matter what.
That jitter on the yaw is caused by a lack of sheilding from an external tx like crossfire. Radiomaster support legit said "just turn down your tx to 25mw"... Glad these gimbals seem to have better sheilding
Nice review, as always! I think the „sensual“ thing to do is waiting for the new Radiomaster - let’s call it tx 20 - with built-in elrs 2,4 ghz and 915/865 mhz and these frickin‘ gimbals in the max version ;-). Should be between 300 and 350 bucks and will give the competition a round for their money. I bet it’s gonna come out next spring, maybe even sooner. Peace
Thanks bud I have been thinking about ditching my x9d for something nice and new with elrs built in. I think I’ll wait a little bit I want kinda that zorro or something dope in the x12 size
Gut dass ich dich ma treffe, in einem deiner letzten Videos hast du super stabilisiertes Gopro Video aber im FPV sieht man das dein Wing über quer rollt. Hast du mal mit höheren D Werten getestet. ff und I haben ja kein Einfluss darauf und P kann man hoch drehen bis er überschwingt, das bringt nicht viel. So bald wieder Wetter ist werd ich da mal rum probieren, mit TPA kann man ja überschwingen vermindern.
@@BBFPV ich arbeite derzeit an einem Video für komplett manuelles Tuning. Aber schreib mal nen Kommentar welches Video du meinst und welche Stelle. Dass ich genau verstehe was du meinst.
Correctly calibrating with no force does prevent the channel endpoint from changing. The point is just to demonstrate how much flex the factory gimbal has vs. the metal one.
So……it’s like a JR or Futaba now, but with open tx? And the hall sensors are included per the quick view I saw in the video? So, to make things more respectable money wise, get the lesser priced version and add the metal gimbals? Gotsta have toothpicks for precision grease applications, qtips for clean up. Or a mini zip tie works super.
I love Joshua B. He cracks me up with his witty banter, and he knows what he's talking about; thanks for doing what you do, sir. Keep up the great work!
I got tired of this on my 1st gen T16 so I put M9r gimbals in it. The amount of work it required was absolutely insane, glad to see there's a much better option now, even if it is really pricey
Love my TX16S. Wish mine drifted though. Feeling left out. Seriously though - never noticed any drift flying quads almost every day since I got the Tx. Love that touch - flying with EdgeTX.
Bad things happen once you go too deep down the rabbit hole of a hobby... If your not careful you will be seriously out of pocket and not much happier.. I must have spent 3000 over the space of 2 years on this gadget and that gadget.. Pretty much all of them are in a big rc gadget box in my room and ill admit i've only probably used 1/3 of them, that's probably a stretch just to make myself feel better here !!!
Got the Gimbal Set and bevor putting them in I watched your video .....you are funny af JB!!! The "what about Mary" reference has me on the floor laughing!!
Oh my GOD!!! The gimbals on a $1200 radio are better than the gimbals on a $180 radio?? :D They dang well better be! I had noticed the flex on the gimbals of my TX-16s. To compensate, I am VERY careful when I do a calibration and have even gone into Companion and tweaked the calibration data to guarantee a +100 & -100 resting position with no contact with the stick. Other than this, the original gimbals are very good. I can't say that I have noticed any effect from this flex (or other minor flaws of the gimbals) in flight. Still... I am now very tempted by these new gimbals. I really wondered about these gimbals when I firs saw them a few days ago and am glad/unhappy to have seen this video demonstrating their differences. Yes, I am somewhat of a gimbal snob even if I may not have the skill level to truly take advantage of the better hardware.
why did you show me this....uuungh...my cousin and i both have heavily modified tx16s radios...he just got the led gimbal mod...now i want this. im regularly adjusting the trims...now i need these. love you joshua.
That was something I had to-do with my first radio, the IR8M! Not the best radio, but it served its purpose. The gimbals were "loose" around the middle, I glued them onto the pot shaft with some nailpolish and all the jittery sloppiness went away!
The stock gimbals are pretty good and none of my high end radios where any better. When JR put metal gimbals in there radio they where awesome. I never owned one but flew with one and wow best gimbals period. So I expect these gimbals will to be the same when I get them can't wait. It will technically turn the cheap radio into an expensive radio
i just bought these. my tx16s is half year old and the right gimbal is weird in the top right. i can push down on the stick and it changes value of around 5 to 10 and stay there until i slightly pull the stick out. i screwed down the 2 adjustable metal things in the back and its somehow good now. but these look verry good and i beleve after seeing this they must feel buttersmooth and solid
im so glad i got mine, my pretty new tx16s right gimbal was acting weird pretty early on. if i put pressure on the stick just by having my thumb on it, it wil slightly pitch forward, it does that upto 9% depend how hard i push the stick wile flying. now its all smooth and i can just really hard handle the stick and only get the output i give currenty
AG01 V3 is already on aliexpress with the same price as of getfpv. Anyway, it's a set of thruster and self-centered sticks with front adjust screw holes which already appeared on Radiomaster's OEM Eachine remote. They reused the design.
Hi Joshua, I have the same feeling that obviously it does matter but not as much. Good pilot will fly with Ski sticks same as with superb awesome excellent gimbals. Simple as this ... All the best.
Just got mine. The last thing that I have been missing from my Taranis X9D was that heavier solid stick feel. The sound/feel when you let the sticks snap back. Very nice.
Glad to see the metal gimbals fit with the LED spacers. When you first showed the metal ones I was sure they looked thicker than the plastic ones, when I put the LED rings in I noticed the rear of the gimbals was pretty close to the rear cover of the TX.
If this were on my old Qx7s that I used for 3 years, this would be a no brainer - it has great gimbals but I could notice some issues and unpleasant feeling with trying to nail a smooth line. Maybe at year 2 or 3 for Radiomaster, I’ll be eyeing these up as a definite way to maintain my radio.
I can confirm as of March 2022 if you buy the 199.99 dollar v3 hall tx16s it has the front adjustments on the V3 halls. However I still got these gimbals and they are unbelievable
Nice video! I love the look and probably the feel, if I could afford them. Mine actually didn't have that flex problem you showed at the beginning of the video, and the bending of the plastic faceplate is made moot, when they are screwed to an aluminum CNC faceplate , which is what my Max, and yours also has. My gimbals actually feel better than my old Jumper T16, so I won't be replacing them ,unless they break. Yours might be the by-product of inconsistencies of production:-)Then, I will be faced by the decision to buy these. If the radio is still in good operable condition, than I would probably pull the trigger. But so far, all is good with my Radiomaster T16S Max, and I love it. Love the fact your doing setup and programming videos on the T16S. Keep up the great work!
I’ve had a Tx16s on the desk for months. And just honestly did not like the feel of the sticks. I do run the r stick on my x9d and love it. This is all the radio needed for me to make the move. Thanks for the review. Product should be here in the next day or so.
Hey guys a Toothpick works great for putting some grease on that plastic piece instead of a q-tip and I think THATS a piece of silicon over the plastic piece there but I put a little lube on my stock gimbles
Bummer, I was there a while back. Got a stimulus check, and bought the Jumper T16, to replace my bricked QX7 Taranis.(this is before I watched videos on how to revive bricked radios:-( Doesn't matter, because there is a noticeable control difference between the two. Now that I Bought a Radiomaster T16S, I could sense a small difference in the gimbals between those two. Stuff just keeps getting better. T16S is the best radio I've used. It was worth the jump to Hall effect gimbals for the control improvement.Hope you'll be able to try it sometime. Happy flying, it's good with Taranis also.
Have the TX16s "new color edition", haptic motor mount was broken out of the box. Added the CNC kit and several screw holes were stripped or posts cracked from factory, had to use lots of bigger screws to reassemble. But also anyplace the "grease" had got on the plastic it was was crumbling, like locktite does to PC. Got it working, but because it does not fit my hands have gone back to my X9D+. If you interested I will make you a deal on a very slightly used TX16s, am in North central Florida.
The reason why the wires are run underneath the others is so they do not get caught in the gimbals. The throttle/left gimbal should probably be run under the first and second set of cables.
I have a jumper T12 Pro with hall effect gimbals and love the feel. My T8SG also has the hall effect gimbals. They are rock solid with no flutter or bounce!
That’s surprising. I’ve had 3 different T12s and 5 different T8SG radios over the years and they all had stick jitter when you check BF receiver tab. Radio feels ok but hard to get consistency. Have you tried other radios? You may find other hall effect gimbals are noticeably better at similar cost.
@@m2kfpv449 When I set the sub trim in mine and go to the receiver tab, they center at 1500 and do not flutter like the old mechanical gimbals did on say a Flysky FS-I6 radio I guess what works for some!
Jumper T8SG/T12 have a great size and switch layout imo, but even after adjustment, calibrating, setting endpoints and subtrim, the gimbals frequently go out of calibration. Again, not a bad radio but those gimbals are not consistent in my experience.
Thanks alot for making these videos. you are awesome Keep up the good work. i wish I could understand how to make my TX16S ready for ELRS but it seems complicated and not sure. I ordered the new gimbals for my radiomaster and will watch your video to install. again thanks and keep up the great videos dude. God Bless.
Joshua, you need longer throttle fingers and skinner screwdrivers, especially the screwdrivers, thay was painful to watch the wrong sized tool being used. I must be a little weird with the sticks, I reverse the heads so the knurled section is facing the gimbal, and the cone shaped collar is all the way up, to make the sticks as long as possible for a greater length arc for the degrees of movement, for as fine a granularity of control as possible.
I'm sure it's like the difference in a Craftsman screwdriver and a Snap-on screwdriver. A, Epiphone SG and a Gibson SG. If you rarely use it, it's not worth it. If you make a living with it or constantly use it, it is worth the extra money. A 420 stainless steel blade with aluminum handle scales and steel liner lock with bronze bushings on the pivot compared to a titanium frame lock, s35vn blade steel and ceramic ball bearings. Knife people will understand the difference there.
I got mine on order and I can't wait to adjust my throttle distance for some reason I could never get full access with my hands on the radio master TX-16S
The real upgrade is said to be the FlySky HZCZ03-ADJ gimbals. They require a custom version of EDGE TX but then you get all kinds of voodoo including 4096 steps resolution, 3 axis hall sensor and a temperature. If you plan on running 500hz update rate the added resolution should be win. Please also review the most extravagant solution!@@
@@JoshuaBardwell They require modification to fit in the TX16/18/16S/18S. hawk-creation has an assembly kit for 30$. Then another 130 for the actual gimbals. Or alternatively I *think* they might fit straight into the Nirvana radio, which would make it the most up-to-date radio on the market now that it has EDGE TX as well. Long time coming.
this is EXACTLLY what I've been waiting for, I fly mode 1 and do quick full stick rolls all the time while my rates are also kinda steep at the end, so when I suddenly lower the throttle to minimum while doing full stick roll(which both happen on the right stick) gimbal flex will effect my roll input so sometimes can't get full 100% of rolling speed, this will fix my problem.
We already change our transmitters one a year because of the fancy funky bigger better faster reason. How important is it that they last 200 years? You can handle dead-zones, jitter and flex at the end throw in betaflight or sim calibration. Adjusting tension once in anTX lifetime. But hobbyists love to invest in their hobby.
What I can't seem to get an answer on from anyone, including radio master is if these new gimbals have the same temperature drift issue the original ones did
what temperature range did you talked about? this gimbal (and another hall gimbal) will tend to drift cause by temperature because magnet get weaker/change based on temperature. but afaik is not much at all. so you probably dealing with massive temperature range.
@@ZuNunchaku Actually we are talking about normal operating range (25-30deg C), and its bad enough that it can stop your motor from arming and the throttle does not get low enough. One of the EdgeTX developers tracked it down to poor design, a resistor that was too high and poor magnet orientation. It's led to EdgeTX supporting the much better flysky gimbals in the TX16S
@@roborrock7945 if it cause by poor magnet orientation or resistor it will NOT cause a drift. Just a non linear reading. If you talking about drifting (change overtime/not repetitive value) so either cause by magnet (orientation, placing, etc) or plastic deformation or something like that or noise/cross talking from the cable that cause magnet interference.
One day someone will make a full size radio with beautiful gimbals right out of the box and they will absolutely clean up. Needs to be crossfire module compatible and with independent, easily replaced switches and feel great all over. The market is primed for a must have, do it all radio but so far I haven't seen it. These gimbals look great but they probably cost more than the radio itself which looks and feels pretty cheaply made in the hands. Maybe a Mambo 2?
@@JoshuaBardwell Yeah that one looks pretty good although pricey. I'm imagining something like that Horus X10/X10S crossed with the Mambo and looks and feels like it was designed in this decade.
Too bad they don’t offer anodized aluminum to match the color combos they sold in the TX16S Max. I have the gold blingy and will lose some with these gimbals. 😟
When I watched this vid I just hung my head - staring at my DJI FPV remote v1. However, "Lets Fly RC" posted an instructional for putting those into my xmitter. A set of those is inbound my pos currently.
I also noticed that I very rarely get full extension of my gimbals. pretty much live in the 80% range... any upgrades like this for Tango / Mamba ? this would be a nice treat for yourself or upgrade if something goes wrong.
This would make sense if products had longevity. But you know next year there will be the next vesrion etc etc.. so there's hardly any point in lifetime guarantee ball bearings in gimbals.
i'm a big fan of the m9 short version ( less up and down throw on the trottle) for my X9d. Short one on the left and normal on the right (mode2...as jesus intended). So yeah this ajustable gimball seem good for me if i switch to TX16S ( or buy the eachine version...) kiss from France jb
I got some of these. But in my case there were no grease included. It seams that the throttle tension is getting loose . Do i need this grease or some loctite for the screw? Is a litte bit of anoing, that such expensive gimbals getting loose by their own. What would you say?
I just tested the gimbals in my TX16S (carbon fiber faceplate version) and I get no flex at all. They also don't jitter and I have the ADC filter off. I did just get it a few months ago so maybe that's why?. Running EdgeTX on it. I do really want these gimbals. Sucks they cost more than I paid for the radio but I'm gonna get them. Probably going to have to wait until next year though with Xmas coming up and hopefully getting my Steamdeck soon, my budget for hobbies is tight.
I'll bet it cant be much different/better than the Pyrodrone CNC model because that TX has the smoothest gimbals I've EVER used. Flexing the stick with almost 10% of deadzone means the calibration was done blindfolded. I'm not seeing $150 worth of product imo, but whatever floats your boat.
The point of the intro was to demonstrate just how much flex the stock gimbal has. You're right that if you calibrate correctly, you won't see that movement in your channels.
The Pyrodrone edition has the exact same gimbals as the ones Josh just replaced. The only difference is multicolor CNC parts and it includes a battery.
Disclaimer: the LEDs are NOT part of the gimbal and are a separate accessory. Correction: the accessory springs are WEAKER than the stock ones, not STRONGER -- I got that wrong.
Get the LED rings for your gimbals at: bit.ly/2Z2n5KG
Any idea if they will fit the jumper T18 pro?
Got LEDs on my but they are the Banggood ones . These are what I would get now if I were to get some . They plug in and you don’t need clear tape 😂😂
Oh I need these gimbals because my gimbals are goofy ,my throttle movement does that exact same thing
Holy shite, 79.99 each, or 129.99 a set. They seem really nice and if they fit the QX-7 or the Jumper T-6 I would probably get them. I think I paid 29.99 each for hall gimbals for the QX7, but not that quality.
Pro tip; if you still have your Radiomaster TX16s foam case it comes in, you can flip your radio upside down in it and work on the back without your nice new gimbals rubbing and pushing into the table.
Pillow works nicely as well. A bonus to using a pillow is that it will often catch random screws that will inevitably be dropped.
I know there must be something I can do with the foam case and I kept it ever since I unboxed. Thanks for the sharing!
Good tip, thanks for that.
Wow great idea , that is always a concern of mine
I have always just used my wife stomach. She's ok with it as long as its not a longer project.
"Mode 2 like Jesus intended." haha someone had to say it.
Blunty looks more like Jesus but does not flu mode2.
nah im still rockin mode 4 :)
@@Just4FunRC
Foot pedals for throttle 4 life!!!
@@jonathanwilliams1644 so how many drones per day do you crash? :)
Pelvic thrust for throttle.
This transmitter now just needs one thing to be perfect: a 5-in-1 ELRS internal module.
Please make it happen RadioMaster!
i hope this will never happen
@@sigterm15 why lmao?
The 4 in 1 with a ranger is the best
The amount of people in the comments that deep down want these gimbals but they are trying justify to themselves why they should not buy them(probably because they can't afford them right now but really want them). Is funny as hell haha. If I had a Radiomaster. I would 100% get them! Gimbals are super important man. Just as important as video tx and rx. As well control link too.
Well said mate- I have Ts16s, I’m getting these coz I need everything edge I can get 😅👍🤝
I thoroughly love my TX16S, but the endpoints being “fluid” is getting worse by the day, now that it’s 6+ months old and has 6 or 8 models programmed into it, which I cycle through multiple times daily.
Wish I could afford these gimbals. Those would be a GREAT upgrade!
JB, man,, you say so much without saying a word. You keep me laughing with your expressions. That also keeps me tuned in. Don't change a thing. Thanks again for making me learn something today!
What he said 👆👆👆👆
@@MustangPilot1 👍
I see what you mean about that little bit of extra 'wiggle'' space when pressing the throttle lower on my T16, but that little anomaly has never been an issue for me, the gimbals on that are perfectly fine for my flying.
At $130 I guess it's for serious racers or anyone who has to have the best no matter what.
If you calibrate gimbals gently you dont have this phenomenton.
@@ansgaryeysymontt7155 Exactly, treat the gimbals well and they won't mess you around.
@@ansgaryeysymontt7155 that never goes away you can never calibrate exactly to how the push reacts at the upper and lower limits
@@MrSabram07 You never use limits of
stick throw...
That jitter on the yaw is caused by a lack of sheilding from an external tx like crossfire. Radiomaster support legit said "just turn down your tx to 25mw"... Glad these gimbals seem to have better sheilding
Nice review, as always! I think the „sensual“ thing to do is waiting for the new Radiomaster - let’s call it tx 20 - with built-in elrs 2,4 ghz and 915/865 mhz and these frickin‘ gimbals in the max version ;-). Should be between 300 and 350 bucks and will give the competition a round for their money. I bet it’s gonna come out next spring, maybe even sooner. Peace
Take my money! 😅
@@vuchuong74 and mine 😃👍
Thanks bud I have been thinking about ditching my x9d for something nice and new with elrs built in. I think I’ll wait a little bit I want kinda that zorro or something dope in the x12 size
I would just calibrate them properly with no force and solve the issue 🤣 but they look cool though.
Gut dass ich dich ma treffe, in einem deiner letzten Videos hast du super stabilisiertes Gopro Video aber im FPV sieht man das dein Wing über quer rollt. Hast du mal mit höheren D Werten getestet. ff und I haben ja kein Einfluss darauf und P kann man hoch drehen bis er überschwingt, das bringt nicht viel. So bald wieder Wetter ist werd ich da mal rum probieren, mit TPA kann man ja überschwingen vermindern.
@@BBFPV ich arbeite derzeit an einem Video für komplett manuelles Tuning. Aber schreib mal nen Kommentar welches Video du meinst und welche Stelle. Dass ich genau verstehe was du meinst.
@@MarcFPV Find es auf die Schnelle gerade nicht, ich schau dann mal in dein tuning Video.
Correctly calibrating with no force does prevent the channel endpoint from changing. The point is just to demonstrate how much flex the factory gimbal has vs. the metal one.
@@JoshuaBardwell yep agree. Checked on mine and it's the same. But that never bothered me. Not even noticed till now 😅
Joshua, if you are not a gimbal snob, you just made me one :) Placed my order on the affiliate link listed. Thanks for the great video.
So……it’s like a JR or Futaba now, but with open tx? And the hall sensors are included per the quick view I saw in the video? So, to make things more respectable money wise, get the lesser priced version and add the metal gimbals? Gotsta have toothpicks for precision grease applications, qtips for clean up. Or a mini zip tie works super.
I love Joshua B. He cracks me up with his witty banter, and he knows what he's talking about; thanks for doing what you do, sir. Keep up the great work!
I got tired of this on my 1st gen T16 so I put M9r gimbals in it. The amount of work it required was absolutely insane, glad to see there's a much better option now, even if it is really pricey
Love my TX16S. Wish mine drifted though. Feeling left out. Seriously though - never noticed any drift flying quads almost every day since I got the Tx. Love that touch - flying with EdgeTX.
Hear about drift all the time and honestly haven’t seen or felt it drift even from warm home where it was calibrated into the colder 45 outside.
OMG...just the color scheme alone is worth the buy
To be clear, the LEDs are a separate accessory and are not part of the gimbal.
@@JoshuaBardwell booo...just let me know when you sell yours
Blessed is the man who throttles and yaws on his left, and pitches and roles on his right.
Just got my TX16S and yes, the gimbals have screws adjustable from the outside
Love this guy really! He just does not make these reviews boring at all. Thanks dude!
Bad things happen once you go too deep down the rabbit hole of a hobby... If your not careful you will be seriously out of pocket and not much happier..
I must have spent 3000 over the space of 2 years on this gadget and that gadget.. Pretty much all of them are in a big rc gadget box in my room and ill admit i've only probably used 1/3 of them, that's probably a stretch just to make myself feel better here !!!
Lol. I hear ya. I wish 3000. Was all I spent, but I use the hell out of my stuff.
@@RCOverKill That's just what ive probably spent on gadgets.. Not planes or batteries I don't need,, well you get the point !! hahah
Got the Gimbal Set and bevor putting them in I watched your video .....you are funny af JB!!! The "what about Mary" reference has me on the floor laughing!!
When you take a radio apart you should set it in the foam carrier to protect the sticks. I use my Spektrum Tx foam package.
Oh my GOD!!! The gimbals on a $1200 radio are better than the gimbals on a $180 radio?? :D They dang well better be!
I had noticed the flex on the gimbals of my TX-16s. To compensate, I am VERY careful when I do a calibration and have even gone into Companion and tweaked the calibration data to guarantee a +100 & -100 resting position with no contact with the stick. Other than this, the original gimbals are very good. I can't say that I have noticed any effect from this flex (or other minor flaws of the gimbals) in flight. Still... I am now very tempted by these new gimbals. I really wondered about these gimbals when I firs saw them a few days ago and am glad/unhappy to have seen this video demonstrating their differences. Yes, I am somewhat of a gimbal snob even if I may not have the skill level to truly take advantage of the better hardware.
M9R on x9. I personally use the R gimbal on both side because I like the shorter throw for pitch too. Even though its minute.
why did you show me this....uuungh...my cousin and i both have heavily modified tx16s radios...he just got the led gimbal mod...now i want this. im regularly adjusting the trims...now i need these. love you joshua.
I know it's expensive but I love this hobby. thr evolving technology and the things that you can tweak and fiddle with or what keep me addicted
That was something I had to-do with my first radio, the IR8M! Not the best radio, but it served its purpose.
The gimbals were "loose" around the middle, I glued them onto the pot shaft with some nailpolish and all the jittery sloppiness went away!
My tx16s gimbals are wearing out. Perfect time for a upgrade
The stock gimbals are pretty good and none of my high end radios where any better. When JR put metal gimbals in there radio they where awesome. I never owned one but flew with one and wow best gimbals period. So I expect these gimbals will to be the same when I get them can't wait. It will technically turn the cheap radio into an expensive radio
i just bought these.
my tx16s is half year old and the right gimbal is weird in the top right.
i can push down on the stick and it changes value of around 5 to 10 and stay there until i slightly pull the stick out.
i screwed down the 2 adjustable metal things in the back and its somehow good now.
but these look verry good and i beleve after seeing this they must feel buttersmooth and solid
im so glad i got mine, my pretty new tx16s right gimbal was acting weird pretty early on.
if i put pressure on the stick just by having my thumb on it, it wil slightly pitch forward, it does that upto 9% depend how hard i push the stick wile flying.
now its all smooth and i can just really hard handle the stick and only get the output i give currenty
AG01 V3 is already on aliexpress with the same price as of getfpv. Anyway, it's a set of thruster and self-centered sticks with front adjust screw holes which already appeared on Radiomaster's OEM Eachine remote. They reused the design.
"Mode 2 like Jesus intended" and "something about Mary" THUMBs up lol
Hi Joshua, I have the same feeling that obviously it does matter but not as much. Good pilot will fly with Ski sticks same as with superb awesome excellent gimbals.
Simple as this ...
All the best.
Just got mine. The last thing that I have been missing from my Taranis X9D was that heavier solid stick feel. The sound/feel when you let the sticks snap back. Very nice.
Glad to see the metal gimbals fit with the LED spacers. When you first showed the metal ones I was sure they looked thicker than the plastic ones, when I put the LED rings in I noticed the rear of the gimbals was pretty close to the rear cover of the TX.
Umm. Yeah. More about that in the LED video.
@@JoshuaBardwell LED Video? I can't seem to find it in your play list or using search..
If this were on my old Qx7s that I used for 3 years, this would be a no brainer - it has great gimbals but I could notice some issues and unpleasant feeling with trying to nail a smooth line. Maybe at year 2 or 3 for Radiomaster, I’ll be eyeing these up as a definite way to maintain my radio.
I can confirm as of March 2022 if you buy the 199.99 dollar v3 hall tx16s it has the front adjustments on the V3 halls. However I still got these gimbals and they are unbelievable
My 4yr old taranis with frsky hall gimballs are still 💯%
Nice video! I love the look and probably the feel, if I could afford them. Mine actually didn't have that flex problem you showed at the beginning of the video, and the bending of the plastic faceplate is made moot, when they are screwed to an aluminum CNC faceplate , which is what my Max, and yours also has. My gimbals actually feel better than my old Jumper T16, so I won't be replacing them ,unless they break. Yours might be the by-product of inconsistencies of production:-)Then, I will be faced by the decision to buy these. If the radio is still in good operable condition, than I would probably pull the trigger. But so far, all is good with my Radiomaster T16S Max, and I love it. Love the fact your doing setup and programming videos on the T16S. Keep up the great work!
I’ve had a Tx16s on the desk for months. And just honestly did not like the feel of the sticks. I do run the r stick on my x9d and love it. This is all the radio needed for me to make the move. Thanks for the review. Product should be here in the next day or so.
That flex in the throttle at the beginning disappeared on my radiomaster when I installed the optional recess plates that come with the max kits.
Hey guys a Toothpick works great for putting some grease on that plastic piece instead of a q-tip and I think THATS a piece of silicon over the plastic piece there but I put a little lube on my stock gimbles
0:10 I'm sure a calibration would fix that. What happens is that when calibrating, some people force the stick, which leads to that.
And here I am with the stock Taranis gimbals :D
Bummer, I was there a while back. Got a stimulus check, and bought the Jumper T16, to replace my bricked QX7 Taranis.(this is before I watched videos on how to revive bricked radios:-( Doesn't matter, because there is a noticeable control difference between the two. Now that I Bought a Radiomaster T16S, I could sense a small difference in the gimbals between those two. Stuff just keeps getting better. T16S is the best radio I've used. It was worth the jump to Hall effect gimbals for the control improvement.Hope you'll be able to try it sometime. Happy flying, it's good with Taranis also.
I went with the flysky gimbal mod, similar price. I do like how these gimbals are made specific for the tx16s and do not need extra mounting pieces.
@Bradley Witney Yes Sir, I agree.
Love the feel of mine. The red is a nice accent to the color scheme of my radio. ☺️
Have the TX16s "new color edition", haptic motor mount was broken out of the box. Added the CNC kit and several screw holes were stripped or posts cracked from factory, had to use lots of bigger screws to reassemble. But also anyplace the "grease" had got on the plastic it was was crumbling, like locktite does to PC. Got it working, but because it does not fit my hands have gone back to my X9D+. If you interested I will make you a deal on a very slightly used TX16s, am in North central Florida.
Pretty impressive gimbals indeed, Joshua! 😮
Awesome review!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Anyone know if these will work in a tx12?
The JB transformation continues. Blue workbench & now blue gimbals.
I don’t even have this radio but my my aren’t these sweet.
1:20 anyone who don’t like ur flying is blind, u rip fullll sneddddd!! 🔥
I’ve been waiting for this and I haven’t even upgraded my radio from the Futaba j8 yet. 😎❤️👍
edit: “…as Jesus intended…” 🤣
The reason why the wires are run underneath the others is so they do not get caught in the gimbals. The throttle/left gimbal should probably be run under the first and second set of cables.
I have a new tx16s with rhe same adjustments on the hall gimbals, i was afraid that they didn't send me a radio with hall gimbals 🤣
Any chance this gimbal is interchangeable with the Jumper T16?
Could you check if they can be made to fit in a X9D? (:
I have a jumper T12 Pro with hall effect gimbals and love the feel. My T8SG also has the hall effect gimbals. They are rock solid with no flutter or bounce!
That’s surprising. I’ve had 3 different T12s and 5 different T8SG radios over the years and they all had stick jitter when you check BF receiver tab. Radio feels ok but hard to get consistency. Have you tried other radios? You may find other hall effect gimbals are noticeably better at similar cost.
@@m2kfpv449 When I set the sub trim in mine and go to the receiver tab, they center at 1500 and do not flutter like the old mechanical gimbals did on say a Flysky FS-I6 radio I guess what works for some!
@@m2kfpv449 I do wonder if you had problems with them, why so many? I am not a gimbal snob!
Jumper T8SG/T12 have a great size and switch layout imo, but even after adjustment, calibrating, setting endpoints and subtrim, the gimbals frequently go out of calibration. Again, not a bad radio but those gimbals are not consistent in my experience.
Thanks alot for making these videos. you are awesome Keep up the good work. i wish I could understand how to make my TX16S ready for ELRS but it seems complicated and not sure. I ordered the new gimbals for my radiomaster and will watch your video to install. again thanks and keep up the great videos dude. God Bless.
We need that shirt to be made again!
"i fly mode 2 like Jesus intended" and "something about mary gooey" hahahahaha
If you replace the sticks with a thinner base there won't be any "wiggle" input, what actually happens is the stick knob is hitting the gimbal frame.
The old JB would NEVER! 🤣🤣🤣 never have purchased this....
I have no flex in my gimbals, but these trembling poti sliders are scary!
Joshua, you need longer throttle fingers and skinner screwdrivers, especially the screwdrivers, thay was painful to watch the wrong sized tool being used.
I must be a little weird with the sticks, I reverse the heads so the knurled section is facing the gimbal, and the cone shaped collar is all the way up, to make the sticks as long as possible for a greater length arc for the degrees of movement, for as fine a granularity of control as possible.
Heard that thermal shift was the problem with centering the sticks. Does this solve that problem?
I'm sure it's like the difference in a Craftsman screwdriver and a Snap-on screwdriver. A, Epiphone SG and a Gibson SG. If you rarely use it, it's not worth it. If you make a living with it or constantly use it, it is worth the extra money. A 420 stainless steel blade with aluminum handle scales and steel liner lock with bronze bushings on the pivot compared to a titanium frame lock, s35vn blade steel and ceramic ball bearings. Knife people will understand the difference there.
I'm sold, great review, thanks JB
If only we could get gimbals like this for the Mambo.
my Radiomaster has the gimbals that are adjustable from the outside.
I got mine on order and I can't wait to adjust my throttle distance for some reason I could never get full access with my hands on the radio master TX-16S
I love mine!!!!
The real upgrade is said to be the FlySky HZCZ03-ADJ gimbals. They require a custom version of EDGE TX but then you get all kinds of voodoo including 4096 steps resolution, 3 axis hall sensor and a temperature. If you plan on running 500hz update rate the added resolution should be win. Please also review the most extravagant solution!@@
Are they drop-in on the TX16S?
@@JoshuaBardwell They require modification to fit in the TX16/18/16S/18S. hawk-creation has an assembly kit for 30$. Then another 130 for the actual gimbals.
Or alternatively I *think* they might fit straight into the Nirvana radio, which would make it the most up-to-date radio on the market now that it has EDGE TX as well. Long time coming.
Something about Mary... I LOL'd
Thank you for the review, and that might be a 100 hour present for me.
seems worth it...
this is EXACTLLY what I've been waiting for, I fly mode 1 and do quick full stick rolls all the time while my rates are also kinda steep at the end, so when I suddenly lower the throttle to minimum while doing full stick roll(which both happen on the right stick) gimbal flex will effect my roll input so sometimes can't get full 100% of rolling speed, this will fix my problem.
Winter is coming!..... Going to freeze my pinchers with all metal. but definite getting those :D
We already change our transmitters one a year because of the fancy funky bigger better faster reason. How important is it that they last 200 years? You can handle dead-zones, jitter and flex at the end throw in betaflight or sim calibration. Adjusting tension once in anTX lifetime. But hobbyists love to invest in their hobby.
how’d you get sponsored by radiomaster?
Great now I need the gimbals to go with my silver aluminum cnc kit I'm about to install 😬🤔
Got LEDs on my but they are the Banggood ones . These are what I would get now if I were to get some . They plug in and you don’t need clear tape 😂😂
Are the hall gimbals of the X9d+ better then of the radiomaster 16?
If then Can I change frsky Gimbals with radiomaster gimbals?
Have the same question,. Will these fit in a FrSky X12S
I kinda want to upgrade because it probably minimizes that need to recalibrate every 5 minutes, but I don't know if that is worth 140 bucks.
What I can't seem to get an answer on from anyone, including radio master is if these new gimbals have the same temperature drift issue the original ones did
what temperature range did you talked about? this gimbal (and another hall gimbal) will tend to drift cause by temperature because magnet get weaker/change based on temperature. but afaik is not much at all. so you probably dealing with massive temperature range.
@@ZuNunchaku Actually we are talking about normal operating range (25-30deg C), and its bad enough that it can stop your motor from arming and the throttle does not get low enough. One of the EdgeTX developers tracked it down to poor design, a resistor that was too high and poor magnet orientation. It's led to EdgeTX supporting the much better flysky gimbals in the TX16S
@@roborrock7945 if it cause by poor magnet orientation or resistor it will NOT cause a drift. Just a non linear reading.
If you talking about drifting (change overtime/not repetitive value) so either cause by magnet (orientation, placing, etc) or plastic deformation or something like that or noise/cross talking from the cable that cause magnet interference.
One day someone will make a full size radio with beautiful gimbals right out of the box and they will absolutely clean up. Needs to be crossfire module compatible and with independent, easily replaced switches and feel great all over. The market is primed for a must have, do it all radio but so far I haven't seen it. These gimbals look great but they probably cost more than the radio itself which looks and feels pretty cheaply made in the hands.
Maybe a Mambo 2?
The FrSky Horus X10 awaits you :-)
@@JoshuaBardwell Yeah that one looks pretty good although pricey. I'm imagining something like that Horus X10/X10S crossed with the Mambo and looks and feels like it was designed in this decade.
Too bad they don’t offer anodized aluminum to match the color combos they sold in the TX16S Max. I have the gold blingy and will lose some with these gimbals. 😟
I felt the same way.
I upgraded to the tandem x20 better than just upgrading the gimbals xD
Great radio, love mine :-)
x20 hd better
@@fluoxethine not even out yet. And also dont need fpv since i fly line of sight only
When I watched this vid I just hung my head - staring at my DJI FPV remote v1. However, "Lets Fly RC" posted an instructional for putting those into my xmitter. A set of those is inbound my pos currently.
I also noticed that I very rarely get full extension of my gimbals.
pretty much live in the 80% range...
any upgrades like this for Tango / Mamba ?
this would be a nice treat for yourself or upgrade if something goes wrong.
Would like to see some of this kind for my Tango 2. That would be cool.
My Scroll wheel has started jumping around…. Do I need a new one? Is metal upgrade better?
I changed to the other springs that come in the box. Pretty sure they are looser than the stock springs.
This would make sense if products had longevity. But you know next year there will be the next vesrion etc etc.. so there's hardly any point in lifetime guarantee ball bearings in gimbals.
Damn I want these in my life. My T16S needs some love.
i'm a big fan of the m9 short version ( less up and down throw on the trottle) for my X9d.
Short one on the left and normal on the right (mode2...as jesus intended).
So yeah this ajustable gimball seem good for me if i switch to TX16S ( or buy the eachine version...)
kiss from France jb
This awesome Joshua. 👍thanks
I got some of these. But in my case there were no
grease included. It seams that the throttle tension is getting loose . Do i need this grease or some loctite for the screw? Is a litte bit of anoing, that such expensive gimbals getting loose by their own. What would you say?
I just received my gimbles and they no longer come with dampening grease or oil. Only gimbles
I just tested the gimbals in my TX16S (carbon fiber faceplate version) and I get no flex at all. They also don't jitter and I have the ADC filter off. I did just get it a few months ago so maybe that's why?. Running EdgeTX on it. I do really want these gimbals. Sucks they cost more than I paid for the radio but I'm gonna get them. Probably going to have to wait until next year though with Xmas coming up and hopefully getting my Steamdeck soon, my budget for hobbies is tight.
I'll bet it cant be much different/better than the Pyrodrone CNC model because that TX has the smoothest gimbals I've EVER used. Flexing the stick with almost 10% of deadzone means the calibration was done blindfolded. I'm not seeing $150 worth of product imo, but whatever floats your boat.
The point of the intro was to demonstrate just how much flex the stock gimbal has. You're right that if you calibrate correctly, you won't see that movement in your channels.
The Pyrodrone edition has the exact same gimbals as the ones Josh just replaced. The only difference is multicolor CNC parts and it includes a battery.
Would the gymbol travel issue be fixed through the calibration feature of the radio?