Excellent analogy. If Joe is as steady as his supporters say he is why isn't he addressing the issue himself right now?? This man is in seclusion and that says everything.
@@Grisostomo06 Because we already did...in the primaries. I find it curious that Ezra can't seem to find the same passion for Donald Trump's stepping down or stepping aside. After all, he IS a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist facing personal bankruptcy as we speak. I mean, it's not like that there aren't suitable alternatives the Repubicans can't bring to the fore. Like Nikki Haley for example. But that would take integrity, wouldn't it Ezra?
I think one day Ezra, you should discuss rank choice voting in a Democratic primary and how it would reduce the likelihood of an extreme wing of the party taking power. The Democratic Party is a private institution. They can do what they want.
This open convention stuff sounds exciting and potentially even inspiring. This was tradition in American politics; the excitement of actual democracy. It would be massive free media exposure as well. trump will look like the tired corrupt hasbeen that he is - repeating his 10 tired hate filled talking points in comparison. Bring the excitement and pageantry. This is what America does best - inspiring entertainment - think Steven Spielberg as the democrats vs Jerry Springer as the republicans.
@@Bobboberson1234 Well clearly you think dementia 'I beat medicare' Joe is going to win, that sounds utterly delusional to me, sweetie. When he loses to trump, people like you will be to blame. Enjoy project 2025 :).
Why do you want him to step down? He’s omnipotent now! He can have anyone disappeared as an official act, and if it’s contested in any way by survivors (of which there should be zero to few), he’ll likely be dead before trial.
I think that Elaine sounds elitist. I think she fails to understand that millions of democrats across the country have been polled and a majority of them never wanted Biden a second term. I think that she fails to mention that the part canceled several primaries, didn't allow people to vote, and the party bosses never allowed debates or a fair and true primary. If the Party took it upon themselves to just nominate whoever they wanted? There would be anger as a result of that. And her comment was pretty outrageous when she said that Super Delegates were not elite. Yes they are. Corrupt, elected, delegate politicians who have been bought by corporate donors in their states are members of the Elite in this country.
biden has put out an add asking for donations claiming that we must be PROUD of his debate performance - I was aghast to think that the dem establishment thinks people are so dumb. It is interesting that the WI supreme court REINSTATED ballot drop boxes - sounds strange:)
Looks like the Democrats are going to dance with the guy that brought them. The old generation doesn't want to let go. So, we end up with Trump back in the White House.
@@gooser__43 Old generation holding on isn't just about one party or politics. It's about a lot of human behavior. No old guy wants to give up the car keys, until he has an accident.
@stephenbailey9969 the Republicans have real primaries, and due to that, Republicans have a deep bench. Their Governor Abbott would be the next nominee if he was not paralyzed. Who do the democrats have? Non of the younger democrats poll well against Trump. After Trump, many younger democrats will poll well against inexperienced or unlikable democrats. Westchester's AOC has more name recognition than Whitmer and both will run 🏃♀️; who will all those young socialist pick? How will Westchester's AOC do against J.D. Vance or DeSantis?
People screaming that there's not enough time are ridiculous. Americans have been brainwashed into thinking that a presidential campaign takes 2 goddamn years. Three or four months is plenty of time to pick a candidate, and have the candidate campaign.
@@Rippypoo Without money or a ready-to-go army of volunteers a new candidate who isn’t Harris won’t have access to Biden’s money or network of campaign offices. The candidate will be unknown to most Americans who often can’t even name their own state’s governor. Most importantly the Republicans lawyers will be able to keep the new candidates name off the ballot. Remember that Democrats barely got Biden on Ohio’s ballot this year because of a state rule.
I think the Elaine Karmarck is really out of touch when she says “the democratic divisions are not that deep.” People aren’t chanting “Genocide Joe” because they have slight disagreements.
Easy answer: Suddenly, haphazardly, with poor planning, no reliable leadership, and too full of petty infighting and bickering to deliver good public service to the public.
Everyone should listen to this today. Your guest is about my age and I remember those open conventions very well. They weren't as undemocratic as Ezra tries to claim. The smoke filled rooms he objects to haven't changed that much, other than the smoking.
Nobody is saying a word about how the party has been lying to us telling us he’s great. He’s got another 4 years in him. Half still believe he is fine. People should actually trust their eyes. Not their party.
Electing a candidate via a small committee sounds aristocratic and anti-democratic. You’re basically saying the ppl voting are idiots and these insiders know best.
So...why don't you left wingers care that you get no say in this? It's like you don't understand what a Democracy is yet you've been screaming it at the top of your lungs for a decade or two. Left wing voters get NO SAY once again like in 2020. The Democrats will install who the DONOR CLASS WANT so they can screw America over harder. You left wingers are evil and you support it.
Very informative; thank you for refreshing my memory and perhaps educating me a bit, since I didn’t know as much about politics generally then as I do now.
Now (July 2) you have the worst problem you two didn't consider: an obviously incompetent nominee who won't step aside. Since the Dems voted him in knowing he was already in decline and a selfish, nasty piece of work, you got what you deserve. What you did talk about was interesting, but it might not apply. Can the DNC release pledged delegates before the first vote?
One of the President's core constitutional duties is to "...preserve, protect and defend the Constitution..." and that includes defending the Constitution’s Electoral College provisions under Article II, Section 1, Clause 3, which DJT clearly sought to defeat with the "Green Bay Sweep". The organized use of private attorneys and WH staff to produce and transmit forged elector slates, which were designed to induce VP Pence to reject the valid elector slates as well, is a blatant violation of DJT’s “core constitutional duties” that should lead to his prosecution pursuant to 18 USC § 1001 for the false swearing of his federal oath of office. This abrogation of oath and violation of the election interference statute 52 USC § 10307, could also be the basis for disqualification of DJT’s presidential electors in a contest of those ascertainments issued post-election pursuant to 3 U.S.C. § 5(d).
Thank you for that. And I believe precisely what 45 is being charged with. Although delayed. And somehow that trial being questioned due th recent Supreme Court decision. But notcsure what the confusion is here. Attempting a coup is clearly not an "official" duty of the president.
As someone who agrees that he should drop out - stop trying to make fetch happen bud, it's not going to happen. Update: Damn, I've never been so glad to have been entirely wrong 😂
To be fair, that’s still the leading theory about the origins of COVID-19. The lab leak hypothesis is still wanting evidence. It’s a plausible source of the leak but it’s not set in stone. If you knew about epidemiology, you’d know how many novel zoonotic viruses originate from those tightly knit wet-market environments.
@@connor5669 Their is 100% evidence for it. Stop watching MSNBC, Fox, and CNN. I bet you took all of those jabs too...didn't you? Still wearing a mask?
Only once did a major party NOT renominate a sitting president. Franklin Pierce 14th president was not renominated for re election. They nominated James Buchanan instead. Buchanan went on to win the presidency
Because CA remembers Harris. There's no way in hell she'll ever get my vote directly. I almost didn't vote for the Biden ticket last time because of her. She's a terrible person.
@@ValkesNuhuh yes she is but so is Newsom. I live here not far from the Bay Area and he has destroyed my home state. Choose a candidate closer to the middle ideologically and geographically.
@@aynrandish9106 I mean, he's been p center right inline with where Biden is, despite the propaganda about Biden being "the most progressive". Newsom is obviously try'n to recoup his image and appear more "moderate" which is why the CAs that I know are all pissed at him.
Enough, Ezra - this isn't Bernie Sanders vs Hilary again. People already chose Biden in the Primaries, Dems lose the incumbency-advantage if he goes, and his team is solid enough even if he were incapacitated.
I agree. There is no magical way out of this. Besides, Biden isn't actually senile - he just didn't do well at debate. But he has his marbles, I dare say probably more than Trump.
This current situation shows how differently people within a party think versus how people not internal to a party think. Only people who think about everything as it relates to a party in a two-party duopoly would stick with Biden. To party insiders, there are no individuals, there is only the party. The individual representing the party does not matter. Most real people or voters do not think that way.
"In an extraordinary circumstance the people would understand." Yes! I'm a registered Democrat still angry that Eugene McCarthy was passed over in 1968, Bernie Sanders was treated like garbage in 2016 + cheated in 2020 - and I'm fine with "anybody but Harris" - how we get there doesn't matter to me. WE MUST WIN.
It has now been 13 days since this has aired. What are the Democrats waiting for?? It is so excruciating that they do not listen to the voters. Whom can you write too? They ALL lose credibility at this point.
Ezra just asked the right question and the only people who are really doom and gloom on the potential that this woman is discussing taking place are those who are interested in the big money and where the money goes because the thing is elections have gotten out of control, and there is an industry built inside of it and anybody, and everybody should know that in a capitalist system when an industry is born Never wants to die. I’m not saying that this would kill the election industry, but it would take a lot of money out of peoples mouths who have been feeding off our fear and bombastic nature.. She’s dead right that this would look like chaos and the American public would gobble it up and that right there would be all the free advertising anybody could get.
I still think if it comes down to turn out and GOTV effort, Biden wins by default. Trump campaign GOTV effort this year has been handed over to Lara Trump at the RNC (lol) and Charlie Kirk's Turning Points USA organization, which is just a giant fraudulent grift organization with no background in GOTV organization worth mentioning except when they lost Arizona for Kari Lake. Ill take Obama/Biden's mailing list and GOTV effort to Charlie Kirks every single day of the week times ten.
This has taken me from terrified to kinda stoked. The idea of seeing something like this happen for the first time in so long. Can you even IMAGINE how thrilled high school and college History and Government teachers would be to have their students witness it in real time? Thanks Ezra!
This is a disgusting situation and is utterly intolerable. I’d happily vote for Jill or Hillary in fact why not have a double ticket with women. Kamala is horrible and Joe is incapable. Come on, we did the mercy vote last time don’t force us again!!!
That mercy vote got us a great cabinet and administration, loads of positive legislation, and a roaring economy that has really eased my fears for retirement. Look at the 13 Keys to the Presidency and tell me who else could have nine of them like Biden does.
As a guy in his mid-60s, I remember these conventions. It was the norm for 100 years, so it's good that Ezra is educating the public. This is not a big deal. In fact, it's a better process than the primaries. The bosses back then would pick a candidate that they knew could win.
@@jeffhreid As she did a good job explaining in the interview, it's democracy in a different form. Everybody that participates in the process has been elected in one way or the other. That's called representative democracy.
@@americanexpat8792delegates need not hold, and often don’t hold , any elected office. Donors and party officials are frequently delegates. You’re saying something that is demonstrably not correct
She is comparing Donald Trump to Marianne Williamson? She clearly has never even listened to her speak. She was measured, thoughtful, yet inspiring. She may have done very well if she had a hearing on TV in a real primary.
They say under the current rules only Biden can make the choice to step down. Can't the DNC rules be changed to otherwise? Why not add a vote of no confidence to override Primary results at convention?
Why wouldn’t Biden wait for the delegates to be collected then he steps down and Harris would automatically be the presidential candidate as well as president.
It has happened once where a sitting president was not nominated for re election . Franklin pierce (14 president) was not nominated BY DEMOCRATS for er election They nominated James Buchanan ALSO DEMOCRAT and buchanan went on to win
There is one silver lining : The US Supreme court just handed President Biden the solution on a silver platter. He can send Seal Team Six to take out Trump AND the six idiots on the court. I say Do it Joe, for the good of the country.
He can use this decision as an opportunity to frame himself as anti-authoritarian. He can pledge legislation to put better limits on presidential immunity, in addition to getting govt out of women's uteruses, and that his future Court appointments will not make this situation worse.
Showing real leadership on this, Ezra. The gaslighting is sick.
Jill “Edith Wilson” Biden should release the delegates.
This situation is an absurdity of selfishness.
The man hasn’t given a speech in 4 years and releases info. Shame on the democrats for going along with bs that made the world insane
Excellent analogy. If Joe is as steady as his supporters say he is why isn't he addressing the issue himself right now?? This man is in seclusion and that says everything.
@@Grisostomo06 hey, it won him votes last time. Why on earth would any Democrat ever worry about losing voter loyalty?
@@Grisostomo06 Because we already did...in the primaries. I find it curious that Ezra can't seem to find the same passion for Donald Trump's stepping down or stepping aside. After all, he IS a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist facing personal bankruptcy as we speak.
I mean, it's not like that there aren't suitable alternatives the Repubicans can't bring to the fore. Like Nikki Haley for example. But that would take integrity, wouldn't it Ezra?
Yeah, cuz that's real democratic. Let the First Lady control the votes awarded by the electorate. The NYT has you folks off the rails.
I think one day Ezra, you should discuss rank choice voting in a Democratic primary and how it would reduce the likelihood of an extreme wing of the party taking power. The Democratic Party is a private institution. They can do what they want.
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This open convention stuff sounds exciting and potentially even inspiring. This was tradition in American politics; the excitement of actual democracy. It would be massive free media exposure as well. trump will look like the tired corrupt hasbeen that he is - repeating his 10 tired hate filled talking points in comparison. Bring the excitement and pageantry. This is what America does best - inspiring entertainment - think Steven Spielberg as the democrats vs Jerry Springer as the republicans.
This is such a delusional orwellian take ots crazy
Adventure? Excitement? A jedi craves not these things
Ashley Biden's writing ✍️ are available on the internet; that's the Jerry Springer life.
But then again, Democrats do have many very old lizzards.
@@Bobboberson1234 Well clearly you think dementia 'I beat medicare' Joe is going to win, that sounds utterly delusional to me, sweetie. When he loses to trump, people like you will be to blame. Enjoy project 2025 :).
Democrats twisting themselves into a pretzel trying to justify party bosses anointing their presidential candidate.
Tell us how to effectively demand Joe Biden step down. The gaslighting is sickening.
Not gonna happen. Hold your water and vote.
Why do you want him to step down? He’s omnipotent now! He can have anyone disappeared as an official act, and if it’s contested in any way by survivors (of which there should be zero to few), he’ll likely be dead before trial.
Except that up until last week all Democrats were engaging in it.
Funny how you left wingers went from "He's totally fine!!!" to "We need to replace him quickly!!!" at the drop of a hat.
You stand for nothing.
Missed opportunity to name your episode "conventional wisdom".
I was thinking, GATE KEEPERS.
🎯
It's More Like how Centrist keep pandering to Republicans while Blaming Progressive for Democrats failure
I think that Elaine sounds elitist. I think she fails to understand that millions of democrats across the country have been polled and a majority of them never wanted Biden a second term. I think that she fails to mention that the part canceled several primaries, didn't allow people to vote, and the party bosses never allowed debates or a fair and true primary. If the Party took it upon themselves to just nominate whoever they wanted? There would be anger as a result of that. And her comment was pretty outrageous when she said that Super Delegates were not elite. Yes they are. Corrupt, elected, delegate politicians who have been bought by corporate donors in their states are members of the Elite in this country.
biden has put out an add asking for donations claiming that we must be PROUD of his debate performance - I was aghast to think that the dem establishment thinks people are so dumb.
It is interesting that the WI supreme court REINSTATED ballot drop boxes - sounds strange:)
Looks like the Democrats are going to dance with the guy that brought them.
The old generation doesn't want to let go.
So, we end up with Trump back in the White House.
That tells you all you need to know about democrats.
@@gooser__43 Old generation holding on isn't just about one party or politics.
It's about a lot of human behavior.
No old guy wants to give up the car keys, until he has an accident.
@stephenbailey9969 the Republicans have real primaries, and due to that, Republicans have a deep bench. Their Governor Abbott would be the next nominee if he was not paralyzed. Who do the democrats have? Non of the younger democrats poll well against Trump. After Trump, many younger democrats will poll well against inexperienced or unlikable democrats. Westchester's AOC has more name recognition than Whitmer and both will run 🏃♀️; who will all those young socialist pick? How will Westchester's AOC do against J.D. Vance or DeSantis?
Who would you nominate?
@@milk_bath A number of governors outside of DC to choose from: Whitmer, Walz, Shapiro, Cooper, Newsom, etc.
I think everyone will be shocked at how organized, invigorating, and beneficial an open convention will be.
People screaming that there's not enough time are ridiculous. Americans have been brainwashed into thinking that a presidential campaign takes 2 goddamn years. Three or four months is plenty of time to pick a candidate, and have the candidate campaign.
@@Rippypoo Without money or a ready-to-go army of volunteers a new candidate who isn’t Harris won’t have access to Biden’s money or network of campaign offices. The candidate will be unknown to most Americans who often can’t even name their own state’s governor. Most importantly the Republicans lawyers will be able to keep the new candidates name off the ballot. Remember that Democrats barely got Biden on Ohio’s ballot this year because of a state rule.
Bad time to find out it’s rigged! 😅
Biden needs to step aside ASAP. This independent voter needs to see the convention process play out.
Yeah, they need to see the Donor class pick who they want. Screw voting, right?
"Democracy is on the ballot!" you leftists screamed. lol
@@mattyeager7679 neither candidate should be running
I think the Elaine Karmarck is really out of touch when she says “the democratic divisions are not that deep.” People aren’t chanting “Genocide Joe” because they have slight disagreements.
Thank you. She's very liberal, and ignorant of the farther left
Easy answer: Suddenly, haphazardly, with poor planning, no reliable leadership, and too full of petty infighting and bickering to deliver good public service to the public.
Keep fighting the good fight, Ezra! Move that Overton window! This needs to happen!
game over democrats
Everyone should listen to this today. Your guest is about my age and I remember those open conventions very well. They weren't as undemocratic as Ezra tries to claim. The smoke filled rooms he objects to haven't changed that much, other than the smoking.
Can we have an open primary for NYT eds and contributors?
BS, MD, GC and TF are all bloviatores with crusty blow holes
They're all fascists now.
Can't help by feel that Elaine has a liberal antidemocratic tendency. It feels like the inverse of conservatives supporting the electoral college.
Nobody is saying a word about how the party has been lying to us telling us he’s great. He’s got another 4 years in him. Half still believe he is fine. People should actually trust their eyes. Not their party.
Electing a candidate via a small committee sounds aristocratic and anti-democratic. You’re basically saying the ppl voting are idiots and these insiders know best.
Also highly protective of capital
If it gets rid of Kamala, who can't win, it's worth it.
It's oligarchy by another name.
Had this been the method of choosing a nominee in 2016, Trump would never have been a candidate.
Charisma matters - especially against Trump.
If the Dems can’t find it in themselves to nominate someone new they deserve to lose.
So...why don't you left wingers care that you get no say in this? It's like you don't understand what a Democracy is yet you've been screaming it at the top of your lungs for a decade or two.
Left wing voters get NO SAY once again like in 2020.
The Democrats will install who the DONOR CLASS WANT so they can screw America over harder.
You left wingers are evil and you support it.
Very informative; thank you for refreshing my memory and perhaps educating me a bit, since I didn’t know as much about politics generally then as I do now.
You will be responsible for trump .its disgusting
Prayers that this show recorded earlier this year represents foresight of what is soon to come for the Democrats
Never heard that clip of Johnson before - especially after hearing Kennedy's response.
This interview is VERY useful.
Now (July 2) you have the worst problem you two didn't consider: an obviously incompetent nominee who won't step aside. Since the Dems voted him in knowing he was already in decline and a selfish, nasty piece of work, you got what you deserve. What you did talk about was interesting, but it might not apply. Can the DNC release pledged delegates before the first vote?
One of the President's core constitutional duties is to "...preserve, protect and defend the Constitution..." and that includes defending the Constitution’s Electoral College provisions under Article II, Section 1, Clause 3, which DJT clearly sought to defeat with the "Green Bay Sweep". The organized use of private attorneys and WH staff to produce and transmit forged elector slates, which were designed to induce VP Pence to reject the valid elector slates as well, is a blatant violation of DJT’s “core constitutional duties” that should lead to his prosecution pursuant to 18 USC § 1001 for the false swearing of his federal oath of office. This abrogation of oath and violation of the election interference statute 52 USC § 10307, could also be the basis for disqualification of DJT’s presidential electors in a contest of those ascertainments issued post-election pursuant to 3 U.S.C. § 5(d).
Thank you for that. And I believe precisely what 45 is being charged with. Although delayed. And somehow that trial being questioned due th recent Supreme Court decision. But notcsure what the confusion is here. Attempting a coup is clearly not an "official" duty of the president.
As someone who agrees that he should drop out - stop trying to make fetch happen bud, it's not going to happen.
Update: Damn, I've never been so glad to have been entirely wrong 😂
Didn’t this guy make a whole video detailing how Covid was from a wet market with such an air of authority?
He doesn’t make videos. You’re thinking of someone else.
To be fair, that’s still the leading theory about the origins of COVID-19. The lab leak hypothesis is still wanting evidence. It’s a plausible source of the leak but it’s not set in stone. If you knew about epidemiology, you’d know how many novel zoonotic viruses originate from those tightly knit wet-market environments.
There's zero evidence for the lab leak theory. So idk why you thought this was a dunk
@@connor5669 Their is 100% evidence for it. Stop watching MSNBC, Fox, and CNN.
I bet you took all of those jabs too...didn't you?
Still wearing a mask?
@@connor5669 Was already proven that the wet market was a sham cover up.
Keep taking those jabs, lefty.
He can't! We can!
Only once did a major party NOT renominate a sitting president. Franklin Pierce 14th president was not renominated for re election. They nominated James Buchanan instead. Buchanan went on to win the presidency
LBJ?
Lady Macbeth needs to let Biden know it's over.
Why would assume that California would go for Newsom? Harris is from California too.
Because CA remembers Harris. There's no way in hell she'll ever get my vote directly. I almost didn't vote for the Biden ticket last time because of her. She's a terrible person.
@@ValkesNuhuh yes she is but so is Newsom. I live here not far from the Bay Area and he has destroyed my home state. Choose a candidate closer to the middle ideologically and geographically.
@@aynrandish9106 I mean, he's been p center right inline with where Biden is, despite the propaganda about Biden being "the most progressive". Newsom is obviously try'n to recoup his image and appear more "moderate" which is why the CAs that I know are all pissed at him.
@@aynrandish9106I’m in California too. No way in hell I want him ruining more than he has
I couldn’t agree more. Newsome couldn’t win governorship if he was running again. Not liked at all
Ruth Bader Ginsberg, anyone?
I hope Ezra's put on a good waterproof mattress cover for all the bed-wetting he's been doing lately.
80% of the electorate believes that Biden is mentally incompetent. But you go on living in denial.
The way you guys are talking about this is so gross. Money grubs.
You would have such good ratings. 👎
The Trump ads alone would take Harris down. There's too much footage of her sounding ridiculous.
Not to mention Trump's clever use of misogyny.
Also a lot of baggage that most people don't know about Harris.
Had this been the method of choosing a nominee in 2016, Trump would never have been a candidate.
Enough, Ezra - this isn't Bernie Sanders vs Hilary again. People already chose Biden in the Primaries, Dems lose the incumbency-advantage if he goes, and his team is solid enough even if he were incapacitated.
I agree. There is no magical way out of this. Besides, Biden isn't actually senile - he just didn't do well at debate. But he has his marbles, I dare say probably more than Trump.
What do you mean IF he were incapacitated...?
This current situation shows how differently people within a party think versus how people not internal to a party think. Only people who think about everything as it relates to a party in a two-party duopoly would stick with Biden. To party insiders, there are no individuals, there is only the party. The individual representing the party does not matter. Most real people or voters do not think that way.
National unity ticket:
KAMALA / KINZINGER
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Yeah, something like that would be a good idea.
"In an extraordinary circumstance the people would understand." Yes! I'm a registered Democrat still angry that Eugene McCarthy was passed over in 1968, Bernie Sanders was treated like garbage in 2016 + cheated in 2020 - and I'm fine with "anybody but Harris"
- how we get there doesn't matter to me. WE MUST WIN.
Just like Bernie during the 2016 DNC Convention, the fix is in, there will be No Open Democratic Convention.
Elaine Kamarck is a pleasure to listen to. Straight forward and objective. And most particularly - in contrast to Ezra Klein - free of affectation.
"Peer review" in the realm of politics is called oligarchy. I dont think Americans are interested in being ruled by oligarchy.
It has now been 13 days since this has aired. What are the Democrats waiting for?? It is so excruciating that they do not listen to the voters. Whom can you write too? They ALL lose credibility at this point.
Ezra just asked the right question and the only people who are really doom and gloom on the potential that this woman is discussing taking place are those who are interested in the big money and where the money goes because the thing is elections have gotten out of control, and there is an industry built inside of it and anybody, and everybody should know that in a capitalist system when an industry is born Never wants to die. I’m not saying that this would kill the election industry, but it would take a lot of money out of peoples mouths who have been feeding off our fear and bombastic nature.. She’s dead right that this would look like chaos and the American public would gobble it up and that right there would be all the free advertising anybody could get.
I speak for myself and literally dozens of other Americans in saying Joe Biden is fully capable of winning in 2024.
I still think if it comes down to turn out and GOTV effort, Biden wins by default.
Trump campaign GOTV effort this year has been handed over to Lara Trump at the RNC (lol) and Charlie Kirk's Turning Points USA organization, which is just a giant fraudulent grift organization with no background in GOTV organization worth mentioning except when they lost Arizona for Kari Lake.
Ill take Obama/Biden's mailing list and GOTV effort to Charlie Kirks every single day of the week times ten.
Your head is in sand
It’s more like single digits
@@delorespeterson5954
I bet I could find a dozen people. At least 9.
80% of the electorate thinks Biden is mentally incompetent
That picture of Ezra is beyond nightmare fuel.
super delegates not ending up relevant in 2016 is a hilarious , but almost gross, simplication imo
great interview though
This has taken me from terrified to kinda stoked. The idea of seeing something like this happen for the first time in so long. Can you even IMAGINE how thrilled high school and college History and Government teachers would be to have their students witness it in real time?
Thanks Ezra!
Great show. I think people are yearning for a different selection method anyway. The existing process ended with Biden and Trump
This is a disgusting situation and is utterly intolerable. I’d happily vote for Jill or Hillary in fact why not have a double ticket with women. Kamala is horrible and Joe is incapable. Come on, we did the mercy vote last time don’t force us again!!!
That mercy vote got us a great cabinet and administration, loads of positive legislation, and a roaring economy that has really eased my fears for retirement. Look at the 13 Keys to the Presidency and tell me who else could have nine of them like Biden does.
As a guy in his mid-60s, I remember these conventions. It was the norm for 100 years, so it's good that Ezra is educating the public. This is not a big deal. In fact, it's a better process than the primaries. The bosses back then would pick a candidate that they knew could win.
Don’t kid yourself, party bosses picking a candidate isn’t democratic
@@jeffhreid As she did a good job explaining in the interview, it's democracy in a different form. Everybody that participates in the process has been elected in one way or the other. That's called representative democracy.
@@americanexpat8792delegates need not hold, and often don’t hold , any elected office. Donors and party officials are frequently delegates. You’re saying something that is demonstrably not correct
@@jeffhreid Listen to the video. She talks about how they are selected in there.
IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!@
The Democratic Party is not going to fracture - they understand the dangers of Trump.
She is comparing Donald Trump to Marianne Williamson? She clearly has never even listened to her speak. She was measured, thoughtful, yet inspiring. She may have done very well if she had a hearing on TV in a real primary.
Agreed. I think the comparison was based on "pedigree" :\
I like her as a person, but not as a president.
I'm glad she addressed our current situation- primaries over.
Same podcast of 4 months ago. 😅
They say under the current rules only Biden can make the choice to step down.
Can't the DNC rules be changed to otherwise?
Why not add a vote of no confidence to override Primary results at convention?
I'm on board if you put Whitmer on the ticket. I get it. We need more enthusiasm and Whitmer is the one to do it.
Why wouldn’t Biden wait for the delegates to be collected then he steps down and Harris would automatically be the presidential candidate as well as president.
Give it up! Biden isn’t going anywhere
Nor should he!
why bother with the delegates? let the people vote directly.
Good question on this year's primary!
Well, it wouldn't work. Wake up.
Whitmer would win it. She's light like a feather. The people deserve a reprieve from constant drama. Let's make this bread.
He just needs to name Kamala Harris at the Convention. Simple as that. The voters won't tolerate anything else.
Harris has a lower approval rating than Biden. The voters don't like her.
Good segment. Thank you.
Can Biden jail 45 with his new immunity powers and then step aside : boop: new candidates on both sides
I guess but it would end in civil war, not an election.
An open convention would be a blast.
Back to election porn, I see.
I love how she touched on how peolle forget we are a republic, all be it a democratic one, but a republic
With the latest SCOTUS decision, you are moving toward a monarchy with the president having absolute power. Which means: no republic and no democracy.
Wait wait Marian Williamson was a sharp woman wtf lol
Bernie was robbed foe sho
Wes Moore. Cory Booker.
Hahahahahaha 🎉
I'd be a moron without Ezra and his guests.
Good conversation. I feel like I learned a lot
Would CA split between Newsome + Harris?
OK, I got this answered. CA would split - except I think Harris's support is less than half. EVERYbody wants to WIN!
@@cassandratq9301😂Lol now everyone wants to win😂😂😂😂. How bout the last 3 years. Looked like a lot of losing
Trump 2024 ❤
Really good discourse, small series examining Dems "there's nothing to see here.." aloofness post- Biden's long obvious decline..
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Yes we can! He can't
It has happened once where a sitting president was not nominated for re election .
Franklin pierce (14 president) was not nominated BY DEMOCRATS for er election
They nominated James Buchanan ALSO DEMOCRAT and buchanan went on to win
Humphrey LOST!!!
This was great and answered a lot of questions!
"Don't back no losers" and "We don't want nobody nobody sent".
Why don't you analyze Trump's performance!!
Ezra's fan fiction
There is one silver lining : The US Supreme court just handed President Biden the solution on a silver platter. He can send Seal Team Six to take out Trump AND the six idiots on the court. I say Do it Joe, for the good of the country.
He can use this decision as an opportunity to frame himself as anti-authoritarian. He can pledge legislation to put better limits on presidential immunity, in addition to getting govt out of women's uteruses, and that his future Court appointments will not make this situation worse.
Amazing podcast! Thank you!
Yeah, this isn't a thing since 7/1 cowards
Just stop!
It’s clear you want trump to win.
Be careful not to alienate your teammates that you disagree with. You need their votes
Oh Ezra, this is going to blow over. Biden stays, and the media falls in line. It always happens and you will like it.
He'll pretend the NYT had nothing to do with it.
💙💙💙
How was trump chosen then?
Normal primary process
By the voters.
Making Mexico "pay for the wall" is done by trade negotiation. If you negotiate a better trade agreement the "profit" from that "pays" for the wall.
You already posted this back in February. Find something new bud.
It's an interview he did with an expert on contested conventions. Can't listen or read?
A lot of Americans don't have the mental fortitude to consider something more than once these days
Agree. Reruns are only important to the self (selves) who recorded them. I demand content in the 21st century!!!