These are all fine and good but the betrayal by the manufacturers where warranty and service are concerned is simply inexcusable! Leaving customers to repair trailers right off the lot is disgusting.
Impressive, but sometimes, less is more. Me and the wife are downsizing and going back to the basics with an older non-slide trailer. Tired of holding my breath every time we are ready to leave and press the slide in button. One piece aluminum roof. Smaller windows that don't transmit as much heat and cold. We sit outside most of the time. I really dislike scrolling thru a menu to turn on lights. Switches worked great for the last hundred years.
@@aeconsulting1 We have a fairly new Venom toyhauler 5th wheel now. Have to scroll thru the menu to turn on each light or adjust the HVAC, it's ridiculous. Everything is in the menu.
like cars- moving from tactile switches and knobs to electric with software is more affordable to manufacture, but not better for owner use or longevity
The one thing about Riverstone is they have 3.25” walls.All of the Riverstone line have 3.25” walls much better than almost any of the other RV manufacturers.
Some really amazing things being tried! A re-locating interior wall slide? It's an amazing time for new concepts, then we'll see which ones stick and which ones just fizzle or have short or long-time reliability issues. Quality is still such a concern. Great info! Thanks
I have a condo, and plan on moving after retirement, what you get for $300k is 💩 you wouldn’t want to live in. I’m considering land and a destination trailer for retirement.
Wow, Jason! You do so much homework to bring so much industry information. It's very much appreciated. I really hadn't known about destination trailers at all. Still sticking to the pop-up! Love you guys.
I love that patio from Sabre. I love the way you and Abby say it with the Rv you have. Thank you Jason for showing these destination homes . Going to watch your podcasts soon!
On the topic of Electric Motorhomes. It's about the user- Class A drive far less then Class B. Class A has a ton of empty space underneath to add batteries - Class B is already optimal packed. Class A has significant amount of roof space for solar - (hope for minisplit integration and get rid of all the crap on the roof)
Love the design evolution of the destination trailers. Those things are becoming wildly popular. Also love the idea of FOUR AC units in one of them. Makes summer camping more doable down here in the south. I'm in the process of looking for my seventh RV. I gave up my fabulous Jayco travel trailer a year ago to try a Class C for a while. I'd prefer the roominess of a travel trailer. I just wish, wish, wish that someone would come up with an easier hitch for a small woman to handle. At some point, some genius somewhere will develop a whole new "docking system" for RV's that doesn't require as much muscle to hitch and unhitch. Thank you for the video. There's a ton of good information here! 😃
You can use a ProPride hitch, my daughter uses one, and most of the hitch is on the rv itself, not on the truck, but it's 3 to 5k!!!! And you have to be straight on with the 'stinger' fitting into the small hole on the ProPride.... takes a lot of practice, but she does it all alone 🎉
@melaniedeare5427 my daughter towed a 34 foot grand design imagine with a half ton Titan, was using equalizer, have af WDH, and it was throwing her around the road with light winds and passing 18 wheelers.... now, it's steady as can be
What does “affordable” mean to you? You can buy a small travel trailer for about $15,000-$20,000, just don’t expect a lot of features or high end materials.
@@stuartstuart866 Affordable to me means not having to change my current vehicle for one that can tow something heavy. For anything over $5K I expect materials that will last. I cannot afford to waste 5 figures on a vehicle with issues that needs a lot of repairs or maintenance due to shoddy materials or construction.
Love the Chill Cube in our Brinkley, waiting for the Chill Cube Low Profile to install in the bedroom. P.O. Ready to go!! We run both a/cs on our solar 24/12v system. The standard Chill A/C is a pig but usable till Chill Cube LP comes out
Very informative. I think a lot of people buy a chunk of land somewhere and plop one of these trailers down without much thought of water and sewer, but to each his own.
I'd be happy if they concentrated on quality. RV's are stapled and glued together from material more like cardboard than wood. The roofs are terrible. Some frames are suspect. Trailers could save a lot of gas and truck wear if they were more aerodynamic.
Some interesting things for sure & your delivery and editing made this easy to follow along. We have sworn off the traditional stick built trailer after our last unit. Once we discovered the world of molded fiberglass camper like Bigfoot, Olivier, escape, casita, scamp. We have never looked back, I know everyone’s needs are different. We have enjoyed our Casita for 3 years now & ready to plunge into the Bigfoot world. Keep up the good stuff!
This has to be one of the coolest videos y'all have done. Big reveal video with SO MUCH new stuff. and, AND... Someone read my mind and used my idea for a 3 bedroom RV. WOO HOO. I'm not even mad they stole my idea right from my brain, LOL. Sometimes I just want things to happen, I don't need credit. Biggest difference I would make is putting opposable slides in that 3 bedroom with storage for clothes in the slides and making there be a bit of a floor so the kids have some space to do something on their own floor.
Note to the RV industry. The tiny house phenomenon is over. At best what you’re building now as destination trailers will end up in parking lot near homeless shelters.
I like the idea of making a class A coach a plug in hybrid. 150 miles on electric could be all some people need for a day, but it would also make a good Boondocking unit. I know Mercedes and Fiat/Ram have introduced vans with 250-270 miles of range, but I haven’t seen any RV companies convert them yet. I’m curious about campgrounds, since when EV pickups started appearing, some places introduced no charging rules. Now with Class A electric vehicles starting to appear will they stick to no charging, or upgrade their electric systems? I know one campground that is upgrading their electric grid since there are a lot of EV cars bringing trailers and tents from the nearby cities. One pickup I have been interested in has a 14-30 plug in the bed that could be adapted to a TT-30 that my trailer can use, then the truck itself could plug into the campground’s 14-50 outlet. I will be following the Thor/Harbinger effort to see if they have a floor plan and price point that works for me. If they made a Coachmen Euro 25LE clone with the 37”x38” gear garage, but PHEV instead of V8 gas, they would have a sale up to a certain price. I like the Thor Axis/Vegas line, but I was in a 25.7 today and it had issues with quality and that was the only floor plan with an almost good enough gear storage
The destination trailers will have a captive market by everyone loosing there homes to hurricanes. Actually, Ian provided a boost to manufactures when they needed it. I can only imagine with Helene.
@@lindsayheywood7195 I don’t have a porch, or even a rug for my trailer. I tend to bring mostly sand inside and have to sweep it out. I have been looking at private campgrounds and many of the trailers have a permanent porch so when they open the trailer door they are on a deck. Since my area is often rainy for part of the year I see the attraction rather than go right from the ground to inside. I used to tent camp and have only lately decided camping needs a comfortable bed and nearby bathroom. I see the appeal of bringing the entire house along, but I haven’t done it or plan to yet
I see people out camping an enjoying nature; these big units are beautiful. However to classify them as recreation vehicle ?? We do recreation outside an we see these luxury units as very nice. But the main part of camping enjoying nature an relaxing is outside not inside. The time to setup an take down is WORK ,and its a lot of Work an skill to tow one down the road. We are sure there is a market for these but where i don't know. VERY GOOD FAIR VIDEO. Keep up the videos my wife an i enjoy everyone.
As the quality of these improves (and it will), these will begin to make more and more sense as the impacts of climate change intensify. Triple-digit heat; wildfire smoke; hurricanes, etc. are seasonal. The #1 focus of these manufacturers should be insulation and energy efficiency. If you can get to a quality where you can move these once a year between 2 climate-friendly locations - you've got everything beat.
What I would like to see some stress test data on the frame flex points on their prior suspension and the prior brakes versus the new suspension and antilick brakes?
I also have an Ibex and it tows great. I am having trouble with my Mastervolt system overheating and shutting off but they” the dealership “ are working on it.
The Smithsonian has some care I saw as a kid that was made completely of solar panels I’m sure they could fit more panels or build a towable panel package
Hey guys, as usual, love the video. Now, do I believe RV assembly companies listen to their customers? I would say most don't but there "may" be a few exceptions but generally, I do not believe this is the case. They, like Grand Design does not listen to customers when they have major issues with their RV (frame failure) so why should they listen to them about needed changes. More customers need to start learning and ask about the structure before the interior items. The RV industry in Indiana itself has failed the RV community and you can only put lipstick on a pig so long before people decide to turn it into bacon. Pete
The Freshjet 7 is available in Australia for almost 5 years. You can not ordered it in North America yet. If yes - please show a link. Otherwise I call it vapor ware - it was announced many times..
1. Yes, they sold to Harvest Hosts, I covered that a few weeks ago 2. No update, really. Nothing has changed. The bill that passed the house hasn't been taken up in the senate. Hoping for a lame duck session passage after the election.
Lemon law bill AB 1755 in California that effects RV'S. If not veto Today and gets signed we loss a lot of our rights, you can see the video on rv wingman
I wish they would get rid of the gadgets and trends and build better, less expensive RV trailers. I hate the modern framless windows. They dont allow enough air flow and expensive to replace when broken. Go back to louver hand crank windows, and no slides
I like the slides, can double your interior space without giving more length However, you need to regularly clean and lubricate, and stick with through the chassis rack, none of that 'Shwinteck' worm drive.... they don't last
It was just a matter of time where the RV industry would respond negatively to the growing Liz Armstrong's "buy back this shoddy RV! " community. Build them cheaper and lighter and classify them in a legal way that travel stress on cheap Lippert Component Frames and BAL Accu-Slides is a tort dead end. I do appreciate they are making doors wider to allow RV owners replace their appliances without removing a slide or disassembling the refrigerator/freezer, which is usually a dealership price gouging experience. You are excited about these cheap and ugly boxes with a lot of lipstick, but I am sad that quality has drained from more and more RV manufacturer business models.
IDK. My parents and grandfather live half time in their camper bought during COVID. So they're using it at least 15-20 days per month. And they love the quality and reliability of everything so far. They've only had to have maybe one repair in like 3 years and it was a plug n play type of repair. I'm planning on living full time rv soon and I'm gonna buy the same one they have.
Geez. Less is definitely more for this day and age. These companies need to focus on employee and customer retention; and service. Folks are loyal if they’re treated right, and quality is at an all time low. Manufacturers don’t get it. A/C’s need to be two things…cold and quiet. No one cares about oscillating vents…cold and quiet.
Perhaps they are turning a corrner and not building too much junk to simply meet demand. With homes being so expensive, these moveable homes made by a RV company are good little homes but perhaps not meant to drive all over the country but just be settled down on a piece of land somewhere for awhile. The sticks and bricks home prices are so out of whack with reality. I.e. due to Airbnb's using up housing stock and real estate agents helping to drive up home prices so they can make decent profit on the sale of a home
you have to be rich and stupid to buy any of these unless you own property with electrical hookups and septic tanks with these newer laws in place. Look up the 3 biggest mistake you regret buying in life. The smarter folks are buying smaller 20-25 ft class B and Cs models with induction appliances, solar, 2 alternators and lithium batteries, winterized with duel pane windows with inner water and sewer lines.
They are definitely living in these vs paying $2500 and up rent on a shi@ apartment, trust me ..a house rent is approx $3000 to $5000 a month! A $86k RV like the FR Roost43 with a 15 yr loan Is $700a month, someone can buy a 2 acre lot in NH, Maine, ECT for $20k and those wonderful states still allow living on your land with anything you have, unlike CT, MA, NY....my husband and i are going to live 7 or 8 months in maine then travel south in a small RV for 4 months, sooo much less then paying the horrific rents people are charging or mortgages for a $500k house
Hate this. They've already made it so you can't buy a truck. By focusing on higher end vehicles with lots of bells and whistles, you can't afford or work on your own vehicle anymore. Doing the same thing with RV will price so many people out of the market.
You would be a fool to buy a RV. To many problems. Always get a Real RV Inspector if you buy one. Want something that is well made and hold their value? Look at Fiberglass Campers that are made for you. Big Foot, Escape, Oliver, Casita and others.
Can I get the side patio on one of Forest River’s destination fifth wheel aftermarket? I just purchased the Roost 43 which has the absolute best layout. But I’ve hit a wall looking for outdoor living space ie deck.
I'd love to know YOUR thoughts on these new designs in the comments!
Instead of spending the money those companies put into the "newest trends", they should be trying to improve the QUALITY of their rv's. Just sayin'.
These are all fine and good but the betrayal by the manufacturers where warranty and service are concerned is simply inexcusable! Leaving customers to repair trailers right off the lot is disgusting.
Impressive, but sometimes, less is more. Me and the wife are downsizing and going back to the basics with an older non-slide trailer. Tired of holding my breath every time we are ready to leave and press the slide in button. One piece aluminum roof. Smaller windows that don't transmit as much heat and cold. We sit outside most of the time. I really dislike scrolling thru a menu to turn on lights. Switches worked great for the last hundred years.
My slides do cause me some anxiety too
I prefer regular switches too even so I love innovative stuff (which works).
@@aeconsulting1 We have a fairly new Venom toyhauler 5th wheel now. Have to scroll thru the menu to turn on each light or adjust the HVAC, it's ridiculous. Everything is in the menu.
like cars- moving from tactile switches and knobs to electric with software is more affordable to manufacture, but not better for owner use or longevity
Casita and Scamp trailers are pretty simple
GOOD LUCK on getting warranty work done on a Destination trailer.
Excellent point.
Yeah I’ve heard about a couple horror stories already.
Solution may be mobile factory repair. Hopefully, returning to factory or dealership repairs are extremely rare.
Would love to see more innovation in safety, crash testing, and hybrid fuel options.
The one thing about Riverstone is they have 3.25” walls.All of the Riverstone line have 3.25” walls much better than almost any of the other RV manufacturers.
Some of this stuff was such a big improvement over what has been done for so many years in the past. So much that I want in my next - or even now RV!
I have so many ideas!
Some really amazing things being tried! A re-locating interior wall slide? It's an amazing time for new concepts, then we'll see which ones stick and which ones just fizzle or have short or long-time reliability issues. Quality is still such a concern. Great info! Thanks
I have a condo, and plan on moving after retirement, what you get for $300k is 💩 you wouldn’t want to live in. I’m considering land and a destination trailer for retirement.
lippert should have shown QA and how they train their welders.
Wow, Jason! You do so much homework to bring so much industry information. It's very much appreciated. I really hadn't known about destination trailers at all. Still sticking to the pop-up! Love you guys.
@@willgraves5288 thanks so much!
Thanks so much for stopping by! 😀
Any time!
I love that patio from Sabre. I love the way you and Abby say it with the Rv you have. Thank you Jason for showing these destination homes . Going to watch your podcasts soon!
Glad you enjoyed it
@@RVMiles
I always enjoy you Jason and Abby too! I love you both! ❤️❤️
On the topic of Electric Motorhomes. It's about the user- Class A drive far less then Class B. Class A has a ton of empty space underneath to add batteries - Class B is already optimal packed. Class A has significant amount of roof space for solar - (hope for minisplit integration and get rid of all the crap on the roof)
Love the design evolution of the destination trailers. Those things are becoming wildly popular. Also love the idea of FOUR AC units in one of them. Makes summer camping more doable down here in the south.
I'm in the process of looking for my seventh RV. I gave up my fabulous Jayco travel trailer a year ago to try a Class C for a while. I'd prefer the roominess of a travel trailer. I just wish, wish, wish that someone would come up with an easier hitch for a small woman to handle.
At some point, some genius somewhere will develop a whole new "docking system" for RV's that doesn't require as much muscle to hitch and unhitch.
Thank you for the video. There's a ton of good information here!
😃
You can use a ProPride hitch, my daughter uses one, and most of the hitch is on the rv itself, not on the truck, but it's 3 to 5k!!!! And you have to be straight on with the 'stinger' fitting into the small hole on the ProPride.... takes a lot of practice, but she does it all alone 🎉
@@scoobri6 Thanks! Pretty pricey, but I'll check it out. I've never heard of it before.
@melaniedeare5427 my daughter towed a 34 foot grand design imagine with a half ton Titan, was using equalizer, have af WDH, and it was throwing her around the road with light winds and passing 18 wheelers.... now, it's steady as can be
wow! what a great report! Thanks so much - you are the best!
My pleasure!
They need to figure how to make affordable RV's
Agreed. I'm not looking for a towable house or interested in driving / parking a bus. A well-made class B or B+ is enough for me.
What does “affordable” mean to you? You can buy a small travel trailer for about $15,000-$20,000, just don’t expect a lot of features or high end materials.
@@stuartstuart866 Affordable to me means not having to change my current vehicle for one that can tow something heavy. For anything over $5K I expect materials that will last. I cannot afford to waste 5 figures on a vehicle with issues that needs a lot of repairs or maintenance due to shoddy materials or construction.
Love the Chill Cube in our Brinkley, waiting for the Chill Cube Low Profile to install in the bedroom. P.O. Ready to go!! We run both a/cs on our solar 24/12v system. The standard Chill A/C is a pig but usable till Chill Cube LP comes out
Very informative. I think a lot of people buy a chunk of land somewhere and plop one of these trailers down without much thought of water and sewer, but to each his own.
That Cedar Creek is gorgeous!
I'd be happy if they concentrated on quality. RV's are stapled and glued together from material more like cardboard than wood. The roofs are terrible. Some frames are suspect.
Trailers could save a lot of gas and truck wear if they were more aerodynamic.
I love Alliance. I would love to have a lot near a lake for the Benchmark! Beautiful!!! ❤❤
Stupid gorgeous is a good description for these! Maybe we’ll see more of them soon but I’m not sold on them.
Fantastic video! So much information and great visuals!! Thank you! 👏👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Some interesting things for sure & your delivery and editing made this easy to follow along. We have sworn off the traditional stick built trailer after our last unit. Once we discovered the world of molded fiberglass camper like Bigfoot, Olivier, escape, casita, scamp. We have never looked back, I know everyone’s needs are different. We have enjoyed our Casita for 3 years now & ready to plunge into the Bigfoot world. Keep up the good stuff!
TV’s often don’t survive. 2 years ago at a Dallas RV show, we saw TV’s that had ripped away from the wall, one on a Cougar and the other on a Montana.
This has to be one of the coolest videos y'all have done. Big reveal video with SO MUCH new stuff. and, AND... Someone read my mind and used my idea for a 3 bedroom RV. WOO HOO. I'm not even mad they stole my idea right from my brain, LOL. Sometimes I just want things to happen, I don't need credit. Biggest difference I would make is putting opposable slides in that 3 bedroom with storage for clothes in the slides and making there be a bit of a floor so the kids have some space to do something on their own floor.
Note to the RV industry. The tiny house phenomenon is over. At best what you’re building now as destination trailers will end up in parking lot near homeless shelters.
I like the idea of making a class A coach a plug in hybrid. 150 miles on electric could be all some people need for a day, but it would also make a good Boondocking unit.
I know Mercedes and Fiat/Ram have introduced vans with 250-270 miles of range, but I haven’t seen any RV companies convert them yet.
I’m curious about campgrounds, since when EV pickups started appearing, some places introduced no charging rules. Now with Class A electric vehicles starting to appear will they stick to no charging, or upgrade their electric systems? I know one campground that is upgrading their electric grid since there are a lot of EV cars bringing trailers and tents from the nearby cities.
One pickup I have been interested in has a 14-30 plug in the bed that could be adapted to a TT-30 that my trailer can use, then the truck itself could plug into the campground’s 14-50 outlet.
I will be following the Thor/Harbinger effort to see if they have a floor plan and price point that works for me.
If they made a Coachmen Euro 25LE clone with the 37”x38” gear garage, but PHEV instead of V8 gas, they would have a sale up to a certain price. I like the Thor Axis/Vegas line, but I was in a 25.7 today and it had issues with quality and that was the only floor plan with an almost good enough gear storage
The destination trailers will have a captive market by everyone loosing there homes to hurricanes. Actually, Ian provided a boost to manufactures when they needed it. I can only imagine with Helene.
Very, very well done review of what’s new. Top notch as usual!
Much appreciated!
Good job. Great information
Thanks for watching!
I don't understand why people need porches on an RV. Can't you just sit outside on the campsite? Under an awning if it's raining.
A porch gets you away from the dirt, but I would just build a porch and park the RV next to it
@@kenmcclow8963 I guess I don't understand the need to get away from the "dirt". We are camping!
@@lindsayheywood7195 I don’t have a porch, or even a rug for my trailer. I tend to bring mostly sand inside and have to sweep it out. I have been looking at private campgrounds and many of the trailers have a permanent porch so when they open the trailer door they are on a deck.
Since my area is often rainy for part of the year I see the attraction rather than go right from the ground to inside.
I used to tent camp and have only lately decided camping needs a comfortable bed and nearby bathroom. I see the appeal of bringing the entire house along, but I haven’t done it or plan to yet
Allows those of us with dogs to sit “outside” and keep the dogs contained at the same time.
@@kenmcclow8963get older. Your needs and desires will change.
Thanks for the shoutout!! Great video 💪💪💪
That slipper system was designed to get around the patents of the road master system thats been using slipper springs since 2015.
I see people out camping an enjoying nature; these big units are beautiful. However to classify them as recreation vehicle ?? We do recreation outside an we see these luxury units as very nice. But the main part of camping enjoying nature an relaxing is outside not inside. The time to setup an take down is WORK ,and its a lot of Work an skill to tow one down the road. We are sure there is a market for these but where i don't know. VERY GOOD FAIR VIDEO. Keep up the videos my wife an i enjoy everyone.
As the quality of these improves (and it will), these will begin to make more and more sense as the impacts of climate change intensify. Triple-digit heat; wildfire smoke; hurricanes, etc. are seasonal. The #1 focus of these manufacturers should be insulation and energy efficiency. If you can get to a quality where you can move these once a year between 2 climate-friendly locations - you've got everything beat.
We have had so so many problems with our 2023 Newmar Dutch Star -We won’t ever buy another RV -Just junk -I don’t care who makes it 🤯⭐️
It seems RV manufactures know that destination trailers are the new starter homes😂
You missed me. I was in Elkhart last week too. Lots of new stuff to see.
The Benchmark looks like a heavy rail passenger car.
Great info.
What I would like to see some stress test data on the frame flex points on their prior suspension and the prior brakes versus the new suspension and antilick brakes?
I also have an Ibex and it tows great. I am having trouble with my Mastervolt system overheating and shutting off but they” the dealership “ are working on it.
Thank you.
The Smithsonian has some care I saw as a kid that was made completely of solar panels I’m sure they could fit more panels or build a towable panel package
Hey guys, as usual, love the video. Now, do I believe RV assembly companies listen to their customers? I would say most don't but there "may" be a few exceptions but generally, I do not believe this is the case. They, like Grand Design does not listen to customers when they have major issues with their RV (frame failure) so why should they listen to them about needed changes. More customers need to start learning and ask about the structure before the interior items. The RV industry in Indiana itself has failed the RV community and you can only put lipstick on a pig so long before people decide to turn it into bacon. Pete
The Freshjet 7 is available in Australia for almost 5 years. You can not ordered it in North America yet. If yes - please show a link. Otherwise I call it vapor ware - it was announced many times..
This would be an awesome trend.....build an RV thats not junk.
Don't think "exploded" is a good descriptor for anything toilet related
Ha! Good point! LOL
Thanks!!
Welcome!
The studio is looking good…….
Thanks! Slow and steady will win this reno race...even if it's testing our patience.
2009 country coach veranda, anybody else notice the similarities in the folding balcony on the sabre? Lol 🍻
RV’ing is not as cheap as it was before covid, in many cases RV’ing can cost more than your traditional stick & bricks.
Are manufactures going to start putting driver assist features in the E Ford E450. I not finding it at the retailers.
Thank you
Alliance Fifthwheels front Bedroom kitchen island.
Prices on this stuff, how much does it add to the already overinflated msrp, and how much to retrofit?
Would love to know when the new furrion ac will be out.
It's being put into some models now, I don't think it's available as an aftermarket replacement yet.
What other units have the side patio, you mentioned a Montana? Like the video. 👍
@@Warm_Pepsi yeah there’s one Montana with it. Not officially announced yet.
@@RVMiles Ahh, sneaky sneaky. We'll see what comes up!
Two questions:
1-What is going on with Escapees. Heard they were selling.
2-Update on videoing in National Parks
1. Yes, they sold to Harvest Hosts, I covered that a few weeks ago
2. No update, really. Nothing has changed. The bill that passed the house hasn't been taken up in the senate. Hoping for a lame duck session passage after the election.
Are these anti-lock brake systems using disc brakes or drums?
Has anyone seen the new wingman nation video, holy cow 😮
Enlighten us please
Lemon law bill AB 1755 in California that effects RV'S. If not veto Today and gets signed we loss a lot of our rights, you can see the video on rv wingman
Do you listen to Liz Amazing? These features may "look" impressive but who in the right mind would buy a NEW RV????
How much does it cost to have them moved each time?
I wish they would get rid of the gadgets and trends and build better, less expensive RV trailers. I hate the modern framless windows. They dont allow enough air flow and expensive to replace when broken. Go back to louver hand crank windows, and no slides
I like the slides, can double your interior space without giving more length
However, you need to regularly clean and lubricate, and stick with through the chassis rack, none of that 'Shwinteck' worm drive.... they don't last
@@scoobri6 I've known too many people who have had problems with slides. For me it's not worth the hassle
I wish you would cover up those distracting windows behind you😮
It was just a matter of time where the RV industry would respond negatively to the growing Liz Armstrong's "buy back this shoddy RV! " community. Build them cheaper and lighter and classify them in a legal way that travel stress on cheap Lippert Component Frames and BAL Accu-Slides is a tort dead end.
I do appreciate they are making doors wider to allow RV owners replace their appliances without removing a slide or disassembling the refrigerator/freezer, which is usually a dealership price gouging experience.
You are excited about these cheap and ugly boxes with a lot of lipstick, but I am sad that quality has drained from more and more RV manufacturer business models.
Those reliance RVs are mobile homes, not RVs.
Would NEVER buy a modern RV now. Lippert has destroyed the reliability/integrity of seemingly everything.
IDK. My parents and grandfather live half time in their camper bought during COVID. So they're using it at least 15-20 days per month. And they love the quality and reliability of everything so far. They've only had to have maybe one repair in like 3 years and it was a plug n play type of repair. I'm planning on living full time rv soon and I'm gonna buy the same one they have.
Those destination trailers are horrible looking and glad they stay in trailer parks more than campgrounds
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I do not want a slide. I would rather have an 8' 6" wide unit. Less maintenance, less set up time and fewer things to go wrong.
Geez. Less is definitely more for this day and age. These companies need to focus on employee and customer retention; and service.
Folks are loyal if they’re treated right, and quality is at an all time low. Manufacturers don’t get it.
A/C’s need to be two things…cold and quiet. No one cares about oscillating vents…cold and quiet.
Perhaps they are turning a corrner and not building too much junk to simply meet demand. With homes being so expensive, these moveable homes made by a RV company are good little homes but perhaps not meant to drive all over the country but just be settled down on a piece of land somewhere for awhile. The sticks and bricks home prices are so out of whack with reality. I.e. due to Airbnb's using up housing stock and real estate agents helping to drive up home prices so they can make decent profit on the sale of a home
you have to be rich and stupid to buy any of these unless you own property with electrical hookups and septic tanks with these newer laws in place. Look up the 3 biggest mistake you regret buying in life. The smarter folks are buying smaller 20-25 ft class B and Cs models with induction appliances, solar, 2 alternators and lithium batteries, winterized with duel pane windows with inner water and sewer lines.
They are definitely living in these vs paying $2500 and up rent on a shi@ apartment, trust me ..a house rent is approx $3000 to $5000 a month! A $86k RV like the FR Roost43 with a 15 yr loan Is $700a month, someone can buy a 2 acre lot in NH, Maine, ECT for $20k and those wonderful states still allow living on your land with anything you have, unlike CT, MA, NY....my husband and i are going to live 7 or 8 months in maine then travel south in a small RV for 4 months, sooo much less then paying the horrific rents people are charging or mortgages for a $500k house
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Hate this.
They've already made it so you can't buy a truck. By focusing on higher end vehicles with lots of bells and whistles, you can't afford or work on your own vehicle anymore.
Doing the same thing with RV will price so many people out of the market.
@@brentross9233 there’s still plenty of stuff of all sizes. It’s just a lot of the new stuff is big.
You would be a fool to buy a RV. To many problems. Always get a Real RV Inspector if you buy one. Want something that is well made and hold their value? Look at Fiberglass Campers that are made for you. Big Foot, Escape, Oliver, Casita and others.
6 min and no facts 🤦🏻♂️
Can I get the side patio on one of Forest River’s destination fifth wheel aftermarket?
I just purchased the Roost 43 which has the absolute best layout. But I’ve hit a wall looking for outdoor living space ie deck.