How often do these restock? Been looking to purchase but keep checking and it's never on the site 😅 Would buy alone or even in kit if that's the only way to get ahold of it. Thanks for info, appreciate the videos!
I have a 4x5 (not quite 8x10) but I've managed to get to the point I can shoot it handheld on the fly. 1) I have a cold shoe light meter on it for quick metering, 2) I usually use a cardstock with parallax markings and winking back and forth from my left to right eye to find range, but you could have a laser rangefinder if you were a pro and wanted it to nail focus more reliably, just bolted to the side of the camera. I added tape with markings on the part that slides forward and back for focus, with all the zone info on it just like old vintage lenses have marked out 3) I built a wireframe rectangle out of baling wire that also fits on the shoe and is an accurate viewfinder. There's another piece of wire sticking out the front and you visually align it in a certain way and that guarantees you're seeing almost exactly what the film sees. So you can just have the film loaded from the start, NO GROUND GLASS NEEDED. I can just dial in a range and zone focus, meter off of the shoe mete, and then fire completely handheld up in the air and it works fine.
I agree. I have owned as many as 8 gold lenses. I am down to 3 gold lenses. They are amazing sharp and as you have said, the subject separation is amazing. I shoot many vintage lenses and mainly for the wild bokeh I get. The gold lenses do have bokeh, but not the same. I have found 65mm gold lenses is about the smallest you can go without some serious vignetting. I shoot mirrorless and I use helicoids and RAF camera collars to mount any of my gold lenses. Of course I shoot wide open without an aperture control. Works well enough for me.
Just acquired and shot the silver 90/2.5 and completely agree. It's my FIFTH Leica projector glass, and overall 12th projector lens. Rendering equal to my 50, and surpasses my two 85's and 120. Also run Wolly, Rollei and Voigtlander. Yet to acquire Zeiss or Schneider But all were held, inspected and purchased locally within a 30 min drive, so...
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I got a super cinelux in 35mm f2 and use it on an APSC. It is a dream! :-) Don't have any aperture, but the look at f2 is incredible!
Two things to ask. One thing that left me perplexed and one curiosity. Let's start with the latter: I'm curious to know who made the adaptation to 6x7 mount and how it was made. From what I see the helicoid has been made to look like the lens. If it's true it's a great job. I can't understand where the iris is placed. The original lens is a 6 elements double gauss with a very thick, heavy barrel. It doesn't look like the barrel has been touched. It should have been cut in half to introduce a diaphragm where the laws of optics suggest (normally the back nodal point). The Schneider Symmar lenses for large format I'm very familiar with have the diaphragm between the front and rear cell, roughly in the middle of the lens. They are 6 elements double gauss (Plasmat type), not dissimilar from the Cinelux Ultra. So I'm wondering if the Cinelux in question is one of the very few that were released with a diaphragm - if I remember correctly they do exist - or if those who did the adaptation job chose to put the iris behind the optics... which is not a common thing but not so rare either. Second thing. Are you sure that the ISCO cinema projection lenses are worse than the Schneider ones? I am not so sure. Isco and Schneider were two branches of the same company for decades. the "I" and "S" of "ISCO" are the initial of the founder, Mr. Schneider. What I know, and I am kind of sure about that, is that some Schneider and ISCO projection lenses were IDENTICAL. One brand sold in certain countries, while the other took different geographic zones. I am also kind of sure that some Isco and Schneider projection lenses (either gold, red or black in color) look the same but they are not. It can't be generalized. The preference for Schneider many people seem to have could be due to the fact that probably some bottom level (but still expensive!) projection lenses were only sold as Isco. For sure the Isco Ultra-Star HD 80mm MC that I used this afternoon on a Sony full frame has no lateral chromatic aberration (fringing). It's not a champion of sharpness either, but I don't care very much because I use it as a "bokeh lens". The red ISCO's, which happen to have an aperture of f/1.85, are considered extremely good optics. The latest top-level Cinelux objectives by Schneider are considered the best of the best. I'm not sure if there is an Isco equivalent. That is to say, there are differences, there is better and worse, but I don't think you can tell from the brand. Over time there were so many models (and focals!) sold under both brands...
We have a handful of these modded Cinelux lens at the Lab currently. Looking at them again our guess is everything but the front ring (first 2 inches with Schneider lettering) of the barrel is custom machined. The focus ring, aperture ring, and rest of the barrel housing all have a slightly different finish and texture than that front piece. These weren't originally released with working apertures and we havn't seen anyone else doing mod with working apertures. Our understanding is that ISCO is more of the Schneider "budget" brand. We've had a hard time finding a detailed history of the product lineup with these. With this generation of projection lenses Jon feels the Cinelux are better. However, we have a ISCO 105 f/2 at the lab right now (without an adjustable aperture) that's Pentax 645 mount. We shot a roll with that lens and found the results to be quite lovely.
@@moes_film it would be a little more telephoto that's for sure. on a full frame 35mm it would be like most like an 85mm lens (more like a 70mm but that isn't very popular)
Hi! We have four coming soon! A 120mm f2, a 140mm f2.1, a 145mm f2.2, and a 150mm f2.3. Email us at info@thefindlab.com if you want to reserve one of these before they're gone....
So I said I don’t like lenses longer than 105/110. And that’s because I’m not a 70/85mm lens guy on a 35. I almost exclusively shoot with say a 50mm equivalent focal length. So linger lenses aren’t my cup of tea but if you are a 70/85mm focal length kinda of person those linger lenses will fulfill all your unicorn bokeh dreams.
bro said I will only buy the Schneider Cinelux lenses not Isco but Isco lenses are using exactly the same optical formulas since the Kollmorgen days. also Schneider is Isco there may be very slight tweaks to coatings etc but ive used them all and they are all the same, Isco Super Kiptar is the exact same lens as the Cinelux Xenons and the Isco and Kollmorgen cineluxs are the same as the Schneider. The resolution of all of them across the board is phenomenal. If you need to sharpen an Isco or Kollmorgen Cinelux/Ultra MC in post then you have a messed up example of that lens.
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Check here to see if were have any Cinelux Lenses currently available: thefindlab.ecwid.com/Medium-Format-Cameras-c153629255?keyword=Cinelux
How often do these restock? Been looking to purchase but keep checking and it's never on the site 😅 Would buy alone or even in kit if that's the only way to get ahold of it. Thanks for info, appreciate the videos!
that photo of the kid in the crowd is one of the dopest photos ive seen all year. EXCEPTIONAL.
Agreed; that was a phenomenal photo.
I have a 4x5 (not quite 8x10) but I've managed to get to the point I can shoot it handheld on the fly. 1) I have a cold shoe light meter on it for quick metering, 2) I usually use a cardstock with parallax markings and winking back and forth from my left to right eye to find range, but you could have a laser rangefinder if you were a pro and wanted it to nail focus more reliably, just bolted to the side of the camera. I added tape with markings on the part that slides forward and back for focus, with all the zone info on it just like old vintage lenses have marked out 3) I built a wireframe rectangle out of baling wire that also fits on the shoe and is an accurate viewfinder. There's another piece of wire sticking out the front and you visually align it in a certain way and that guarantees you're seeing almost exactly what the film sees. So you can just have the film loaded from the start, NO GROUND GLASS NEEDED. I can just dial in a range and zone focus, meter off of the shoe mete, and then fire completely handheld up in the air and it works fine.
7:18
Insane shot
no kidding!
I agree. I have owned as many as 8 gold lenses. I am down to 3 gold lenses. They are amazing sharp and as you have said, the subject separation is amazing. I shoot many vintage lenses and mainly for the wild bokeh I get. The gold lenses do have bokeh, but not the same. I have found 65mm gold lenses is about the smallest you can go without some serious vignetting. I shoot mirrorless and I use helicoids and RAF camera collars to mount any of my gold lenses. Of course I shoot wide open without an aperture control. Works well enough for me.
that vignetting is for the full frame 35mm...
Heh, guesing you didn't use the leica colorplan yet :) Thank me afterwards!
Just acquired and shot the silver 90/2.5 and completely agree. It's my FIFTH Leica projector glass, and overall 12th projector lens. Rendering equal to my 50, and surpasses my two 85's and 120. Also run Wolly, Rollei and Voigtlander. Yet to acquire Zeiss or Schneider But all were held, inspected and purchased locally within a 30 min drive, so...
I got a super cinelux in 35mm f2 and use it on an APSC. It is a dream! :-) Don't have any aperture, but the look at f2 is incredible!
Not thinking about buying a moded SK lens, but buying the hole FINDlab bizz.
Two things to ask.
One thing that left me perplexed and one curiosity.
Let's start with the latter: I'm curious to know who made the adaptation to 6x7 mount and how it was made. From what I see the helicoid has been made to look like the lens. If it's true it's a great job. I can't understand where the iris is placed. The original lens is a 6 elements double gauss with a very thick, heavy barrel. It doesn't look like the barrel has been touched. It should have been cut in half to introduce a diaphragm where the laws of optics suggest (normally the back nodal point). The Schneider Symmar lenses for large format I'm very familiar with have the diaphragm between the front and rear cell, roughly in the middle of the lens. They are 6 elements double gauss (Plasmat type), not dissimilar from the Cinelux Ultra. So I'm wondering if the Cinelux in question is one of the very few that were released with a diaphragm - if I remember correctly they do exist - or if those who did the adaptation job chose to put the iris behind the optics... which is not a common thing but not so rare either.
Second thing. Are you sure that the ISCO cinema projection lenses are worse than the Schneider ones? I am not so sure. Isco and Schneider were two branches of the same company for decades. the "I" and "S" of "ISCO" are the initial of the founder, Mr. Schneider. What I know, and I am kind of sure about that, is that some Schneider and ISCO projection lenses were IDENTICAL. One brand sold in certain countries, while the other took different geographic zones. I am also kind of sure that some Isco and Schneider projection lenses (either gold, red or black in color) look the same but they are not. It can't be generalized. The preference for Schneider many people seem to have could be due to the fact that probably some bottom level (but still expensive!) projection lenses were only sold as Isco. For sure the Isco Ultra-Star HD 80mm MC that I used this afternoon on a Sony full frame has no lateral chromatic aberration (fringing). It's not a champion of sharpness either, but I don't care very much because I use it as a "bokeh lens". The red ISCO's, which happen to have an aperture of f/1.85, are considered extremely good optics. The latest top-level Cinelux objectives by Schneider are considered the best of the best. I'm not sure if there is an Isco equivalent. That is to say, there are differences, there is better and worse, but I don't think you can tell from the brand. Over time there were so many models (and focals!) sold under both brands...
We have a handful of these modded Cinelux lens at the Lab currently. Looking at them again our guess is everything but the front ring (first 2 inches with Schneider lettering) of the barrel is custom machined. The focus ring, aperture ring, and rest of the barrel housing all have a slightly different finish and texture than that front piece. These weren't originally released with working apertures and we havn't seen anyone else doing mod with working apertures.
Our understanding is that ISCO is more of the Schneider "budget" brand. We've had a hard time finding a detailed history of the product lineup with these. With this generation of projection lenses Jon feels the Cinelux are better. However, we have a ISCO 105 f/2 at the lab right now (without an adjustable aperture) that's Pentax 645 mount. We shot a roll with that lens and found the results to be quite lovely.
I need on of these for my Pentax 645 😊
PM, I have some: 115mm, 120mm, 125mm
Just found this video and would love to buy a 110mm. Any plans on offering another one? Or do I need to search elsewhere? Thx!
Considering this was posted almost a year ago I doubt they have any left.
I have 115mm for sale. Interested?
If somebody can produce a preset aperture for it - that will be a huge deal :)
7:18 Damn that's good
that lens is INCREDIBLE
@@jonathancanlas Hi Jonathan. Love the content and keeping film alive.
Curious what it would look like on a 645nii because that's what I have
Is this lens available for my Hasselblad 501cm?
@@moes_film it would be a little more telephoto that's for sure. on a full frame 35mm it would be like most like an 85mm lens (more like a 70mm but that isn't very popular)
@@ramilodelosreyes1565 nope. P67 mount which with an adapter could be put on any version of P645
It looks like they're all sold out, do you have plans to restock anymore?
We think we have some more being made but it is going to be a few months before they will be available.
Hi! We have four coming soon! A 120mm f2, a 140mm f2.1, a 145mm f2.2, and a 150mm f2.3. Email us at info@thefindlab.com if you want to reserve one of these before they're gone....
i would love to get my hands on this lens especially the 120mm f2@@thefindlab , please let me know when they are in-stock again
@@eulana1 we have one coming, hopefully next week! Email info@thefindlab.com to inquire!
@@eulana1yeah we’ve got some on the way!!!
Did you mod that yourself or how do we go about getting one? 😬
We have 4 that will be available soon! Please email info@thefindlab.com to reserve one! The different focal lengths are listed above in the comments.
nice
So I said I don’t like lenses longer than 105/110. And that’s because I’m not a 70/85mm lens guy on a 35. I almost exclusively shoot with say a 50mm equivalent focal length. So linger lenses aren’t my cup of tea but if you are a 70/85mm focal length kinda of person those linger lenses will fulfill all your unicorn bokeh dreams.
bro said I will only buy the Schneider Cinelux lenses not Isco but Isco lenses are using exactly the same optical formulas since the Kollmorgen days. also Schneider is Isco there may be very slight tweaks to coatings etc but ive used them all and they are all the same, Isco Super Kiptar is the exact same lens as the Cinelux Xenons and the Isco and Kollmorgen cineluxs are the same as the Schneider. The resolution of all of them across the board is phenomenal. If you need to sharpen an Isco or Kollmorgen Cinelux/Ultra MC in post then you have a messed up example of that lens.
that being said gorgeous photos!
Doesnt look so great for me.
I see bad pictures, sorry to be honest.
Go shoot digital.